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Shocking! NY Slimes Poll Showing 72% Support for O’s Health Care Plan Was Stacked With O Voters

by Bob in Breckenridge ( 81 Comments › )
Filed under Healthcare, Media at June 24th, 2009 - 10:30 am

Say it ain’t so, O(bama)! Of course the New York Slimes defends their skewed numbers…

A New York Times/CBS News poll released Saturday that showed broad bipartisan support for President Obama’s health care reform, over-sampled Obama voters compared to McCain voters, critics say.

The poll, administered June 12-16, found that 72 percent of respondents favored the creation of a government health-insurance plan that would compete with private insurers.

It also said 50 percent of respondents thought the government would do a better job providing medical coverage than private insurers, up from 30 percent in 2007; and that 59 percent thought the government would be better at holding down costs, up from 47 percent two years ago.

But critics including pollster Kellyanne Conway say the results are inaccurate because they are heavily skewed toward those who voted for Obama in the 2008 presidential election.

In addition, other indicators point toward a repeat of the defeat Hillary Clinton’s proposed government-run faced in the early ‘90’s.

Out of 895 respondents, 24 percent were Republicans, 38 percent Democrats, and 38 percent were independents, according to a June 20 release from CBS News. While the release says the sampling was conducted at random, those numbers are significantly below the 32.6 percent who identify themselves as Republican according to a May survey from the nonpartisan Rasmussen Reports.

Similarly, the Times/CBS poll said 48 percent of respondents had voted for Obama, versus 25 percent for McCain, a nearly two-to-one advantage for Obama supporters.

Had those results been reflected in the November presidential election, Obama would have garnered 66 percent of the vote to McCain’s 34 percent, Conway, president & CEO of “the polling company,” told CNSNews.com.

“Was the vote 66-34? You tell me,” Conway said.

In 2008, Obama won 53 percent of the vote, McCain won 46 percent.

Conway said that the poll was skewed toward Democrats and Obama supporters because the Times and CBS made it so.

“Their original result was more in line (with other non-partisan polling for party identification) but they weighted those numbers,” Conway charged.

The random information gathered by the two media outlets originally saw fewer independents and Democrats, but their polling methodology saw those numbers shift at the expense of Republican representation. Conway called this a case of “a conclusion in search of evidence.”

New York Slimes Poll Was Stacked With Obama Supporters

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81 Responses to “Shocking! NY Slimes Poll Showing 72% Support for O’s Health Care Plan Was Stacked With O Voters”
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  1. justin case
    1 | June 24, 2009 10:44 am

    wow first again.
    am i the man or what.


  2. 2 | June 24, 2009 10:47 am

    Great post, but the Title is a bit long….no?

    Maybe a good start (although it could be shorter) is:

    NY Slimes Poll In Support Of Obama’s Health Care Plan Stacked


  3. justin case
    3 | June 24, 2009 10:48 am

    seriously, if you do get free health care at the point of use, you will love it and it will guarantee obama a second term.


  4. BuddyG
    4 | June 24, 2009 11:10 am

    4 out of 5 dentists surveyed recommend Trident Gum for their patients who chew gum

    /NY Times methodology


  5. BuddyG
    5 | June 24, 2009 11:17 am

    50% of the game is 90% mental

    /Yogi Berra


  6. Bob in Breckenridge
    6 | June 24, 2009 11:18 am

    re: #2 by WrathofG-d

    What difference does it make? It’s not like we get charged by the letter. Besides, that’s the headline CNSnews.com used. Well, other than the “shocking”, which I added for emphasis.


  7. BuddyG
    7 | June 24, 2009 11:20 am

    Wrath is 91% correct that the thread title is 23% too long


  8. 8 | June 24, 2009 11:24 am

    This Healthcare thing sounds good. I mean people would love the idea of cheaper healtch care. The problem is that it isn’t free and will result in making the problem worse.


  9. 9 | June 24, 2009 11:35 am

    re: #6 by Bob in Breckenridge

    In the big scheme of things it probably doesn’t matter. However when it comes to the “previous”/”next” tabs, and the “Comments” and “recent posts” sections it is just long.

    To me it was a comment on presentation.


  10. justin case
    10 | June 24, 2009 11:56 am

    re: #9 by WrathofG-d

    there is nothing wrong with the post wrath,
    sometimes it seems to me that you just like to piss people off for no reason.
    why even mention it.


  11. jakee308
    11 | June 24, 2009 11:59 am

    And you’re surprised that the NYT would manufacture news/poll to support leftist/liberal lies because ….?


  12. jakee308
    12 | June 24, 2009 12:03 pm

    re: #9 by WrathofG-d

    there might be a way via html or php to allow a longer post title yet put a shorter version in the prev/next links.


  13. off with my head
    13 | June 24, 2009 12:07 pm

    re: #6 by Bob in Breckenridge

    I agree. I would make it a bit longer with “and Obama still sucks”


  14. Bumr50
    14 | June 24, 2009 12:21 pm

    Obama is an Ahmadinejad wannabe. At least in terms of control.
    Skewed numbers, suppressed letters to the Ayatollah, and the apparent lack of principles that define this republic all point to Barack Obama being the biggest dhimmi in the west.
    It won’t end with the auto industry and health care. Wait until climate change legislation comes around…oh wait, it’s almost here already.
    Shock and awe, community organizer style.


  15. vagabond trader
    15 | June 24, 2009 12:25 pm

    Yeah, we’ll really loooove Obama- couldn’t- care- less. I’m sure Nancy Pelousy and her cohorts will be first in line to use it.

    Oh wait, it won’t cover botox injections daily? Nevermind!


  16. jakee308
    16 | June 24, 2009 12:31 pm

    This just in another “Republican” shows that they can’t handle marriage or an affair.

    I don’t know whether to be glad or sad that another R has shown themselves to be unable to:
    A. Keep their penis in their pants.
    B. Keep the above mentioned privates, private.
    C. When discovered, not look like a nerd caught masturbating in the bathroom by their mom.

    Since this guy had a shot at being in the upper tiers of “possibles” for a shot at the ’12 nomination, it’s probably a good thing this happened now.


  17. jakee308
    17 | June 24, 2009 12:39 pm

    re: #14 by Bumr50

    Wait until climate change legislation comes around…oh wait, it’s almost here already.

    It may not be as bad as you think as Australia is rejecting the AGW/MMCC Kool-Aid.

    Note the Aussie Senator gets blown-off by Teh One. Typical. Luckily, WE still have fairly honest elections AND we’re ARMED.


  18. Bumr50
    18 | June 24, 2009 12:46 pm

    re: #17 by jakee308

    Luckily, WE still have fairly honest elections AND we’re ARMED.

    Note to Dems : the REAL reason we have a second amendment.


  19. vagabond trader
    19 | June 24, 2009 12:51 pm

    re: #16 by jakee308

    arggghhh, we need a clean sweep in the entire government,all of them, the good bad and awful.


  20. jakee308
    20 | June 24, 2009 1:00 pm

    BTW; here’s my take on the reason (besides them being Republicans) why the media LUVS it when a Republican gets caught in some sexual/moral pecadillo:

    Since most of Republicans were raised with a strong moral foundation of some sort (biblical, talmudic, or some christian sect’s version of the ten commandments and the New Testament) they KNOW what they were doing was wrong. (probably one of the attractions, but I digress).

    Since they knew it was wrong, they act very hinky when they begin to realize that they may be exposed.

    This is phase one of the fun for the Media, cause anyone can tell they’re lying about SOMETHING and it’s just so funny to watch them spin around in circles trying to convince a bunch of people who don’t have their interest at heart that there’s nothing going on.
    There’s also usually some tears and red-faced anger or stone-faced denial that even a 4 yr old can see is a lie.

    Then there’s the denouement; The Confession:
    Here’s where the real tears start. The apologies to (whoever was cheated on or offended) accompanied by whines and blubbering then they try to offer some face-saving excuse for their actions (I was weak, I was on drugs, I was a addicted, I was lied to)

    Then the final blow is their retraction with shame of their political ambitions and any thing that they have done so far to advance the conservative cause.

    Sometimes there’s a coda (such as with Newt Gingrich) where they attempt a comeback by compromising with or endorsing some liberals’ position on a topic or the liberals’ office seeking.

    It should be a law that if one declares their party and is elected they have to remain within that party for the term of their election before they can change or quit.

    The Dems don’t have this problem cause they DON’T have morals the same as conservatives. Their morals are derived by “whatever feels good”. They don’t even feel remorse when they act counter to the “good of the people”.
    They’ve always got an excuse. They never break down and cry over being caught in the most embarassing positions (oh, wait THEY CAN’T BE EMBARASSED!) so they don’t get angry or whine and they NEVER leave office over it.

    The only time a Dem leaves office over something they’ve done is after they’ve been found guilty and sent to jail. (not even then sometimes.)


  21. bp_sf
    21 | June 24, 2009 1:09 pm

    Argentina?

    AAaaaiiiiiiii mamazita!

    The Gov of SC ain’t goin’ for the Hee-Haw look when it comes to cheatin’!


  22. bp_sf
    22 | June 24, 2009 1:11 pm

    Back on topic the NYT is HQ’d in Manhattan.

    Manhattan is probably 80% bHo voters.

    Screw them, if they don’t get bailed out, their broke ass will be gone.


  23. jakee308
    23 | June 24, 2009 1:12 pm

    See if Sanford had just come out with the fact a few months ago that he and his wife were in counseling and he then stayed away from this chili pepper in Argentina then everything would be cool

    OR

    If he’d just made some “plans” to be elsewhere (the appalachian trail gag was actually pretty good. It just didn’t make sense that he would leave his LT Gov in the dark if that’s where he went) and THEN went to Argentina. (using the atlanta airport was kinda dumb) things probably would be ok.

    BTW; is this LtGov dem or rep and either way does he have his eye on the Governor’s position. Cause it was HIS office that went looking for Sanford and let out that they couldn’t find him. I’m just sayin’ that if you’re going to play around, you better cover yourself from your enemies (and friends)

    Update: the Lt Gov IS a Republican.


  24. m
    24 | June 24, 2009 1:13 pm

    re: #23 by jakee308

    That was R on R tattling.

    lol


  25. bp_sf
    25 | June 24, 2009 1:16 pm

    This world needs more R. Bud Dwyers.

    Get on the podium, ramble a little, and put the damn pistol in your mouth.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dddr66.jpg


  26. jakee308
    26 | June 24, 2009 1:24 pm

    oh, oh Lt. Governor Bauer isn’t married and was a cheerleader in college.

    :)

    Sort of just kidding but at his age not being married is kinda curious. I searched and could find no link/story about him being married so let us know if anyone has knowledge of this.

    Because, as you know, it’s ok for a Dem to be gay and even out but Reps aren’t allowed to be gay at all without being attacked.


  27. Owl
    27 | June 24, 2009 1:42 pm

    Just saying Hi. Nothing to add really.

    I think long, drawn out, wordy post titles are …

    s-e-x-y. ;)

    ( NOW, you should be worried…)heh.

    Oh and in case anyone hasn’t figured it out yet 99.9% dems = 99.9% Republicans.
    Different party, same bad apples.


  28. vagabond trader
    28 | June 24, 2009 1:46 pm

    Breaking newsflash!

    What happened, he looked at the menu and realized it might offend his halal friends?

    http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/24/officials-president-obama-reconsidering-july-4th-invitations-to-iran/

    Those are some really sharp protocol officers advising potus!


  29. BuddyG
    29 | June 24, 2009 1:47 pm

    Another newsflash

    Litigation Titillation


  30. jakee308
    30 | June 24, 2009 1:50 pm

    re: #28 by vagabond trader

    It’s the hotDOG’s that concern them. (those crazy Islamists, always taking things so literally!!)


  31. BuddyG
    31 | June 24, 2009 1:58 pm

    re: #15 by vagabond trader

    Oh wait, it won’t cover botox injections daily? Nevermind!

    If it ain’t covered then ya gotta improvise


  32. vagabond trader
    32 | June 24, 2009 1:59 pm

    re: #29 by BuddyG

    She’ll be a wealthy crackhead by the time she’s 16 no doubt.As for the conned men,bwhahahahahah!


  33. justin case
    33 | June 24, 2009 2:00 pm

    re: #30 by jakee308

    yeah nothing wrong with a bit of pig snot in your mouth.


  34. m
    34 | June 24, 2009 2:01 pm

    re: #28 by vagabond trader

    That’s hilarious. He’s thinking about taking it back, after they said -- no, thanks!

    lol

    ———--

    Ok, I linked that earlier, with the exact title they gave:

    No Iranian diplomats accepted July 4 invites: US

    They changed it already, I guess to keep the POTUS from looking like a complete idiot.

    Now it says:
    US halts July 4 invitations to Iranian diplomats

    But they did leave in the money quote:

    “I don’t think it’s surprising that nobody’s signed up to come.”

    State Department spokesman Ian Kelly earlier said that he also believed that not one Iranian diplomat had signed up to attend the events.


  35. My5princesses
    35 | June 24, 2009 2:03 pm

    BuddyG,

    Don’t know if you saw this one.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.1238a91ad4198d1b19148e150db81cec.4b1&show_article=1

    Just listening to the new Zac Brown Band CD “Foundation”.


  36. BuddyG
    36 | June 24, 2009 2:09 pm

    re: #35 by My5princesses

    Great story.

    And his mother invented white out

    ;)


  37. vagabond trader
    37 | June 24, 2009 2:13 pm

    re: #34 by m

    Can’t make this stuff up huh m? I’d be rotflmao if they weren’t such dangerous idiots!


  38. vagabond trader
    38 | June 24, 2009 2:16 pm

    re: #31 by BuddyG

    Good grief,what to do, laugh cry or shrug my shoulders.


  39. jakee308
    39 | June 24, 2009 2:21 pm

    re: #34 by m

    That’s like when the nerd in some high-school-days movie gets snubbed by some girl and the nerd goes “oh okay, I was gonna be busy that day too!)

    Just had MuseFlash™: THE OBAMA IS A MAXY DWEEB NERD!!!

    Doesn’t he just act the way that those who’ve never been popular act when for some freak reason they become popular (sort of).

    They’re completely out of their element. They don’t know how to handle popularity or power and the diplomacy and tact necessary to carry it off. (most folks who are popular have an innate ability to be pleasingly obnoxious and turn away those they despise with a smile. which is why they remain popular.)

    This moron is constantly reminding us, and himself, that: “I won” and “I’m the president”.

    He wasn’t comfortable in his own skin let alone with the normal fawning/backstabbing that flutters and flows around someone who has power and/or popularity.
    Given the extra amount of sugar poured on by the Media’s affirmative action cheerleading, this guy is losing touch with himself, let alone the ground.

    This does not bode well if a truly rapidly emergent and life-threatening crisis occurs. He will blow and make monumental mistakes that he will not be able to avoid blame for. When the blame comes he will lash out or go catatonic. (he’s almost zombie-like now).


  40. My5princesses
    40 | June 24, 2009 2:22 pm

    Well,

    Take care, time for Yard/Garden work.

    Seeya Princess M!


  41. m
    41 | June 24, 2009 2:26 pm

    Bye {My5}! Have a great evening!


  42. vagabond trader
    42 | June 24, 2009 2:26 pm

    re: #39 by jakee308

    too late jakee, the monumental error was already made by the besotted voters who set him on the throne.


  43. 43 | June 24, 2009 2:28 pm

    re: #34 by m

    Obama really doesn’t get it. The Iranian regime don’t want peace, they want to dominate.


  44. vagabond trader
    44 | June 24, 2009 2:31 pm

    Uh-huh, just like this takeover at ABC, preaching obamacare to the msm choir.


  45. exceller
    45 | June 24, 2009 2:42 pm

    Did anyone see the comment from the distinguished and ever so classy John f’n Kerry regarding the disapperance of Mark Sanford yesterday?

    “Too bad,’’ Kerry said, “if a governor had to go missing it couldn’t have been the governor of Alaska. You know, Sarah Palin.’’


  46. vapig
    46 | June 24, 2009 2:54 pm

    re: #28 by vagabond trader

    LOL! Yeah -- tell the Iranians we’re serving Hebrew National Hot Dogs!


  47. 47 | June 24, 2009 2:58 pm

    re: #45 by exceller

    Got a link for that?

    I want to make sure it is true before I call him an idiot. (This guy was almost our President..yikes)


  48. jakee308
    48 | June 24, 2009 3:08 pm

    re: #47 by WrathofG-d

    I personally was aquainted with Kerry (a long time ago during the vietnam era) and I can tell you that: John Kerry is a snobbish, pompous ass.

    Then, now and forever.


  49. song_and_dance_man
  50. song_and_dance_man
    50 | June 24, 2009 3:11 pm

    re: #48 by jakee308

    It seems he has grown further into that trait rather rudely.


  51. song_and_dance_man
    51 | June 24, 2009 3:12 pm

    Sounds like something Biden would say.


  52. vapig
    52 | June 24, 2009 3:12 pm

    re: #49 by song_and_dance_man

    Man! How tasteless and crass!

    These jerks just can not leave that woman alone, can they?


  53. song_and_dance_man
    53 | June 24, 2009 3:18 pm

    re: #52 by vapig

    He’s a progressive. They always like to belittle their opponents and use others to do so with their gutter politics.

    Remember Gore’s slam of Bush and the (R)’s as having an extra chromosome. Or the use of a Downs Syndrome boy as representative of the right?

    There’s puke in their rhetoric.


  54. song_and_dance_man
    54 | June 24, 2009 3:21 pm

    re: #52 by vapig

    These jerks just can not leave that woman alone, can they?

    They realize, as we do also, she is a viable presidential candidate for the future. She will consolidate the right based on her very definitive right leaning policies and agenda.

    She scares them and is in their heads.


  55. jakee308
    55 | June 24, 2009 3:26 pm

    re: #52 by vapig

    I am not as enamoured as some about Sarah. I was pleasantly surprised that she was picked by McCain for vp nominee and was attracted by her direct ways and past activities re: halting the cronyism that is rampant in AK. That she was also sensible on energy and a tough negotiator made the possibilities much wider.

    Her amateurish stumbles at the hands of a inimical media were astounding and I had hoped that it was poor preparation or sabotage by the McCain entourage.

    Sadly, she has yet to show the ability to counteract the knee-jerk actions of the media and until she does will not rank high on my list of possible nominees for ’12.

    She has made laudable attempts and I personally am hoping she hits upon the right combination of attitude and facts with a quick response to those “pundits” and news readers that begins to resonate with the general population. I think she has what it takes the problem is, will she think it worth the trouble and will she go on the offensive or will she succomb to the usual paid-advisor scenarios and “try to get along”.

    Btw: if you do some in-depth research about political advisors, you will find a large majority that have worked BOTH sides of the political spectrum AND have worked BOTH sides of a particular subject.

    THEY ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED. Their loyalty and constancy is equivalent to a medical liability tort lawyer. It’s all about money and access and they could care less if their client wins or not as long as they get paid.


  56. 56 | June 24, 2009 3:29 pm

    re: #49 by song_and_dance_man

    Wow. What a jerk thing to say. No class. But of course the MSM is going to pretty much ignore that statement.


  57. jakee308
    57 | June 24, 2009 3:30 pm

    re: #53 by song_and_dance_man

    Rules of debate for a leftist/liberal arguing with a conservative/republican;

    1. if losing the argument, attack your opponent

    2. if unable to attack your opponent then interrupt.

    3. if unable to interrupt then attack their family/friends/party

    4. if all else fails raise your voice or accuse the moderator of (fill-in whatever ism is effective)


  58. song_and_dance_man
    58 | June 24, 2009 3:33 pm

    re: #55 by jakee308

    Sadly, she has yet to show the ability to counteract the knee-jerk actions of the media and until she does will not rank high on my list of possible nominees for ‘12.

    I thought her handling of Letterman’s joke was executed quite brilliantly. She did get David to apologize.

    And give her a little slack. She had to become a quick study of the issues during the 2008 run, and did a satisfactory job considering she had to acquaint herself with things that until then were policies well removed from her pay grade as governor of a non continental state.


  59. vagabond trader
    59 | June 24, 2009 3:34 pm

    Clueless commies, I mean that wasn’t even remotely amusing. Sarah really gets to these moonbats huh?


  60. 60 | June 24, 2009 3:35 pm

    re: #49 by song_and_dance_man

    How come Lurch didn’t get raked over the coals for for his dumbass joke?

    Oh, wait a minute. I forgot about the (D) after his name.

    Silly me.


  61. song_and_dance_man
    61 | June 24, 2009 3:36 pm

    re: #56 by WrathofG-d

    Yup. That is why we and the others who want to expose the nonsense of the left are here.

    But, of course, you know that.

    /the choir leader can now sit


  62. song_and_dance_man
    62 | June 24, 2009 3:37 pm

    re: #59 by vagabond trader

    She scares the hell in them.

    /keep it mum, she is a devout christian…DANGER


  63. 63 | June 24, 2009 3:38 pm

    Re: Sanford’s Affair

    Sanford and anyone else that has an affair, and commits adultery is a disgusting human being whom I have zero sympathy for.

    If it were up to me, those that commit Adultery…(well if you want to know search the Blogmocracy archives as I’ve discussed it before)…

    He like all of those before him should be thrown out and dismissed by every Republican politician, etc.

    Adultery is a disgusting act, and should not be excused. I wish him nothing but the worst for what he has done to his family.


  64. vapig
    64 | June 24, 2009 3:39 pm

    re: #55 by jakee308

    I disagree. When she that one talking head to take it any way he wanted, she absolutely stunned him! Like when Cheney answered, “So?”


  65. song_and_dance_man
    65 | June 24, 2009 3:39 pm

    re: #56 by WrathofG-d

    The MSM will not report it. They will only shake their heads in approval.


  66. vapig
    66 | June 24, 2009 3:41 pm

    re: #63 by WrathofG-d

    I agree! What the heck is so hard about fidelity?

    At this point I wish a pox upon both their houses. We need to throw all the bums out!


  67. song_and_dance_man
    67 | June 24, 2009 3:41 pm

    re: #57 by jakee308

    That about sums it up. I think I will keep that and use it again and again.


  68. jakee308
    68 | June 24, 2009 3:42 pm

    re: #58 by song_and_dance_man

    She did get David to apologize.

    Lecherman FINALLY apoligized because of people, like myself, who wrote in and sent emails telling CBS and their SPONSORS that they would feel the pain and loss of viewers/customers if this idiot was allowed to get a pass.

    It is still a continuing exercise and there is hope we will at least limit any contract extension for him.

    I was disappointed that she let him off the hook. Sorry doesn’t get it for some despicable acts. I understood WHY she did; to take the higher ground but she relented too soon in my opinion. (see my avatar for underlying philosophy :P )

    I believe I have given her some slack given her potential compared to her actual actions. I will wait and see but hold no starry-eyed view that she is the “moses” to lead the Reps out of the wilderness.


  69. 69 | June 24, 2009 3:42 pm

    re: #65 by song_and_dance_man

    You are correct. The MSM is in cahoots with the Dems not (only) through actual tactic agreement and conspiracy but mostly through shared beliefs.

    Leftists believe not that their opinion is one of many but that their opinion IS. Thus, when they say these things or hear others say these things they just accept the statement as fact and thus not offensive.

    They are wrong.

    (and Sanford still sucks)


  70. exceller
    70 | June 24, 2009 3:42 pm

    re: #55 by jakee308

    I think you’ve hit it about right with Palin. A lot will depend on who she aligns herself with, who she chooses to advise her politically.

    Also, how much she bones up on the issues. She has to bring the meat next time, in a way that convinces people she can be a national leader.

    The strong points in her favor, in her very fiber, are her conservative principles and enormous charisma.

    I’m a fan, and hope she rises to the challenge.


  71. song_and_dance_man
    71 | June 24, 2009 3:43 pm

    re: #63 by WrathofG-d

    re: #66 by vapig

    I agree, Infidelity has no business in a leaders life and just as much in us everyday people lives.

    vapig

    Fidelity is easy if ones heart is turned towards God.


  72. exceller
    72 | June 24, 2009 3:47 pm

    Sanford has to go, I think he’s finished.
    The most important thing to me is the deriliction of duty. Affairs are one thing, but leaving the country for days and not telling anyone, when you are the govenor of a state? come on now, that is inexcusable.


  73. song_and_dance_man
    73 | June 24, 2009 3:48 pm

    re: #68 by jakee308

    Fair enough. She is definitely a novice in the DC brand of politics. But you must agree her answers and stance to Lauer were formidable. He tried to nail her and she stood her ground. But this was an issue surrounding her morality and not of the kind of issue that will get her to advance to a higher office. I will give on that.


  74. jakee308
    74 | June 24, 2009 3:50 pm

    re: #64 by vapig

    She hasn’t been consistent and strong.

    She has shown signs of improvement but she can’t make any mistakes the media controls the message. She can’t allow them to get edgewise into what she says.

    I know it’s not fair but that’s not my fault, blame the Media not me.

    I’m rooting for her but haven’t seen signs of consistency. (picture a batting avg. so far imo she’s batting about .200 but needs to bat .500 to get through the Media filters.)

    Fair, not Fair it’s the fact. She has to be better than them over 50% or the time.

    Upside is, if she does run in ’12 for Pres. SHE HAS ALREADY BEEN VETTED. They won’t have anything to throw at her by then. They’ve already shot their wad (a naval term btw and not biological) so they will have no way to distract or derail her campaign.


  75. no2liberals
    75 | June 24, 2009 3:51 pm

    One of my daughters called me this afternoon, something she never does, as she works.
    She sounded hurt when she called, and my spidey sense began tingling, something was wrong. When I asked what was wrong, she asked if I heard about Sanford.
    I told her I had, and she was just flummoxed.
    I told her, I don’t know what is wrong with all these people. They seem so straight forward on so many issues, only to discover they will cheat and lie on their families, which means they would to anyone.


  76. 76 | June 24, 2009 3:52 pm

    remember when clinton had an affair, while in the oval office?

    we were told to butt out and let him have a private life. where are those folks now?

    frankly, I don’t care.

    I accept that politicians are dirtbags without morals.

    that is the problem.


  77. song_and_dance_man
    77 | June 24, 2009 3:53 pm

    re: #69 by WrathofG-d

    The MSM is in cahoots with the Dems not (only) through actual tactic agreement and conspiracy but mostly through shared beliefs.

    Right. There is no real outright collusion, but because, as you stated, they share a common ideal, they advocate for them without really thinking that is exactly what they are doing. Colluding by ignorant proxy.


  78. jakee308
    78 | June 24, 2009 3:54 pm

    re: #75 by no2liberals

    Not excusing the behavior but this is a lesson that must be learned;

    Satan does not tempt his own.


  79. song_and_dance_man
    79 | June 24, 2009 3:57 pm

    The latest DC sitcon can be called Sanford and Sin.

    /expecting the groans right quick


  80. song_and_dance_man
    80 | June 24, 2009 4:00 pm

    deleted for not making sense


  81. no2liberals
    81 | June 24, 2009 4:17 pm

    re: #78 by jakee308
    I understand, but this sumbitch hurt my baby girl with his betrayal.
    There are some things I will not forgive.


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