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Bret Stephens Agrees: Obama Is An Anti-Human Rights President

by WrathofG-d ( 228 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, China, Democratic Party, Guest Post, Iran, Israel, Politics, Progressives, Tranzis, World at October 20th, 2009 - 9:56 am

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I have repeatedly stated that Obama is at war with human rights around the globe.  On Blogmocracy, I have called him an anti-human rights president.  He backs the oppression of humanity in every country on earth, without any exception I am aware of.  This great article, written by Bret Stephens, explains this well.

Nobody should get too hung up over President Obama’s decision, reported by Der Spiegel over the weekend, to cancel plans to attend next month’s 20th anniversary celebration of the fall of the Berlin Wall. Germany’s reunited capital has already served his purposes; why should he serve its?

China: In February, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton landed in Beijing with a conciliating message about the country’s human-rights record. “Our pressing on those [human-rights] issues can’t interfere on the global economic crisis, the global climate change crisis and the security crisis,” she said.

In fact, there has been no pressing whatsoever on human rights. President Obama refused to meet with the Dalai Lama last month, presumably so as not to ruffle feathers with the people who will now be financing his debts. In June, Liu Xiaobo, a leading signatory of the pro-democracy Charter 08 movement, was charged with “inciting subversion of state power.” But as a U.S. Embassy spokesman in Beijing admitted to the Journal, “neither the White House nor Secretary Clinton have made any public comments on Liu Xiaobo.”

Sudan: In 2008, candidate Obama issued a statement insisting that “there must be real pressure placed on the Sudanese government. We know from past experience that it will take a great deal to get them to do the right thing. . . . The U.N. Security Council should impose tough sanctions on the Khartoum government immediately.”

Exactly right. So what should Mr. Obama do as president? Yesterday, the State Department rolled out its new policy toward Sudan, based on “a menu of incentives and disincentives” for the genocidal Sudanese government of Omar Bashir. It’s the kind of menu Mr. Bashir will languidly pick his way through till he dies comfortably in his bed.

Iran: Mr. Obama’s week-long silence on Iran’s “internal affairs” following June’s fraudulent re-election was widely noted. Not so widely noted are the administration’s attempts to put maximum distance between itself and human-rights groups working the Iran beat.

Earlier this year, the State Department denied a grant request for New Haven, Conn.-based Iran Human Rights Documentation Center. The Center maintains perhaps the most extensive record anywhere of Iran’s 30-year history of brutality. The grant denial was part of a pattern: The administration also abruptly ended funding for Freedom House’s Gozaar project, an online Farsi- and English-language forum for discussing political issues.

It’s easy to see why Tehran would want these groups de-funded and shut down. But why should the administration, except as a form of pre-emptive appeasement?

In Massachusetts not long ago, I found myself driving behind a car with “Free Tibet,” “Save Darfur,” and “Obama 08″ bumper stickers.  I wonder if it will ever dawn on the owner of that car that at least one of those stickers doesn’t belong.

There is more – please read it all!

It is important to be aware that Obama is a self-styled progressive.  The anti-human rights nature of our progressive president shows the cognitive dissonance of the trans-nationalists (or “tranzis”) who pretend to believe in universal ideals of “hope” and “change,” only to then later stand for stagnation and despair when they enter office.
It thus is no surprise that Obama should follow this anti-human rights pattern.  And it is no surprise to me that Obama refuses to use his UN veto against the Goldstone defamation report against Israel. He thus will apparently be pushing for action on the Goldstone Report – including possible sanctions against Israel (a democractic state which adheres to the highest ideals of human rights) - while blocking sanctions against Iran (a thugocracy that shoots its citizens in the streets and rapes and tortures its prisoners).
This is where Obama stands today.  He has revealed himself as the anti-human rights president.  The good news is that others are starting to see this.

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228 Responses to “Bret Stephens Agrees: Obama Is An Anti-Human Rights President”
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  1. 1 | October 20, 2009 10:05

    Foist

    He is anti human rights….with exception of MUSLIMS….do I have to hunt for evidence. I will


  2. 2 | October 20, 2009 10:06

    btw delectable great post


  3. Nevergiveup
    3 | October 20, 2009 10:08

    You can’t for only some human rights and not for others. It’s like only being a little pregnant. If his friends are autocrates, then Obama is a fraud.


  4. snork
    4 | October 20, 2009 10:15

    It depends on the definition of “human”.


  5. Speranza
    5 | October 20, 2009 10:18

    He is a left of left of center. He is a cynical Marxist.


  6. buzzsawmonkey
    6 | October 20, 2009 10:19

    Unfortunately, the premise here is wrong. Obama is very much a “human rights” president.

    That is because “human rights” are antithetical to liberty. “Human rights” are a UN construct; they are a term which, though always vague, refers to “rights” that are supposedly to be “granted” or “protected” by governments which do not protect rights.

    What we have in the United States is a belief in liberty, protected by civil rights that limit the power of the government, and which are enforced by equal protection under law. In other words, US citizens are considered free, and immune from government interference except where the government is permitted to intrude in their lives. These are the “negative rights” which Obama finds so inadequate.

    “Human rights” are entirely opposed to this worldview. Their absence is usually decried in places where the citizens have no liberty, where any “rights” they hold are granted to them by the government (the opposite of the US model).

    Take the Civil Rights Movement as an example. The black population of the United States was denied civil rights; the right to vote, the right to travel (if one cannot freely access public accommodations, the right to travel is restricted), etc. The absence of these civil rights was addressed by passage of the Voting Rights Act and various other actions taken to address other discrimination in the public sphere. But, these goals accomplished by the mid-Sixties, the Civil Rights Movement was hijacked by Marxists, separatists and Islamists, and transformed into a “human rights” movement seeking ever-larger redress for ever more nebulous grievances.

    This “human rights” model was adopted by the gay-rights movement early on; while there were laws that impinged on the rights of homosexuals (e.g., against being served alcohol or dancing in a bar which catered to them), they could not claim a civil-rights basis for redress of most claims, because “sexual orientation,” unlike “race,” is not a “suspect classification” which demands higher scrutiny.

    In any event, “human rights” are in all cases a kind of fraud: where civil rights exist, as in the US, they are grievance-mongering that is demanding special rights. Where liberty protected by civil rights does not exist, as in most of the world, “human rights” are merely lipstick on dictatorship; they are demands for a government which does not respect the rights of its citizens as a rule to show some “king’s mercy” and lighten the weight of its leaden hand.


  7. Nevergiveup
    7 | October 20, 2009 10:22

    Goldstone: Gaza report won’t hurt peace process
    UN investigator who issued report saying Israel, Hamas committed war crimes tells American rabbis, ‘What peace process is Israel talking about? There isn’t one. Lieberman doesn’t want one

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3792949,00.html

    So the “impartial” UN investigator does not think Israel wants peace? Hum, OK now I get it. Israel bad, Arabs good? OK I never was told that before. I wish I could get my hands on this self hating Jewish Prick.


  8. buzzsawmonkey
    8 | October 20, 2009 10:24

    I will add that it is certainly true that the American ideal of liberty protected by civil rights has often fallen short of its goal. But what I hope people will understand is that the basic ideal of liberty protected by civil rights limiting government, and “human rights” which are demanded as a government largesse, are fundamentally opposed to each other.

    There has been much energy expended by the Left in the past thirty or forty years to make people think that civil rights and human rights are equivalent. They are not. Do not confuse the two.


  9. vagabond trader
    9 | October 20, 2009 10:30

    re: #6 by buzzsawmonkey

    Thanks,I was looking for something like this. potus most definitely does not support human liberty. We need only look 90 miles offshore to Cuba and the dictator for life he and his friends so admire.Whenever I hear the term Human Rights I think of the UN and HRW, both little more than Israel bashers.


  10. Carolina Girl
    10 | October 20, 2009 10:30

    re: #4 by snork

    “Human” as opposed to a “collection of cells” that they use to describe the human fetus. I also am less than impressed with this supposed “new” theory of theirs, especially since it was proffered by Garret Hardin in the late 1960′s, calling it the “DNA Template Theory.” It was in many ways instrumental in making people more “comfortable” with the idea of abortion.


  11. mfhorn
    11 | October 20, 2009 10:31

    It’s racist to say the Chosen One is anti-human rights. He’s just anti-liberty, anti-Semitic and anti-anything that doesn’t agree with his worldview.


  12. Flyovercountry
    12 | October 20, 2009 10:33

    Ther is nothing new here. Carter wanted to be known as the, “Human Rights President.” As a commited leftist however, moral equivalency dictated how those human rights were to be dolled out. In a moral equivalent universe, the leftists will always side with the most heinous thugs and dictators available. Hence, Carter went to North Korea and proclaimed that the Kim Jong Il was a man who truly cared about the gentle people who inhabited the northern half of the Korean Peninsula. He made similar statements about every other thugish dictator in the world. Should we be surprised that Carter the second is any different. Human Rights is a relative thing. Israel is the greatest violator of these rights in their book, followed closely by the U.S.


  13. buzzsawmonkey
    13 | October 20, 2009 10:35

    re: #11 by mfhorn

    It’s racist to say the Chosen One is anti-human rights. He’s just anti-liberty, anti-Semitic and anti-anything that doesn’t agree with his worldview.

    The problem is that “human rights” has been so sloppily and erroneously conflated with “civil rights” for so long that people believe them to be synonymous. And we have become so used to genuflecting before the term “rights” that to say one is “opposed to human rights” is akin to saying that you support roasting and eating babies.

    Nevertheless: I support liberty, which is protected by civil rights that limit the power of government. “Human rights” are demands of largesse from the government, which the government can grant or withhold at its whim. Consequently, I oppose “human rights” as being fundamentally contrary to the ideal of liberty protected by limitations on government power.


  14. Rancher
    14 | October 20, 2009 10:38

    So far what has the One’s appeasement of China, Russia, and Iran gotten him? The Zero.


  15. 15 | October 20, 2009 10:38

    re: #7 by Nevergiveup

    OT(ish)

    I do not speak for Israel, but from my point of view, I keep asking the same question – Peace at what cost?

    What is an actual peace really worth? Assuming it were really possible that all the Muslims in the world would get over their thousands of years of Jew hatred, and imperialistic ambitions, what would be worth sacrificing for this peace? Jerusalem? Long term Israeli security? The Jewish homeland? Autonomy? Holy sites?….


  16. Beltfed
    17 | October 20, 2009 10:41

    The White House will have to be fumigated when the current administration gets their asses thrown out.


  17. Ed Mahmoud
    18 | October 20, 2009 10:41

    Again, if Obama is an agent of PRC intelligence, or of the once and future USSR, everything makes complete sense.

    Embolden Our Enemies
    Betray Our Allies
    Diminish the Nation.


  18. Nevergiveup
    19 | October 20, 2009 10:42

    re: #15 by WrathofG-d

    I agree with you, but to say that “Lieberman” who represents the State Of Israel does not want peace is a libelous accusation.


  19. typicalwhitey
    20 | October 20, 2009 10:42

    re: #16 by Beltfed

    Is this a joke?
    Just because they ‘say’ that FOX is not a legitimate news source, it should be believed!

    They just made the point of my email to this very blog!!!


  20. 21 | October 20, 2009 10:43

    re: #16 by Beltfed

    What? You don’t like you media hand-picked by the Government?

    Do you think that violates the 1st Amendment to the Constitution regarding a “free press”

    You are so last century and small minded!

    /


  21. Speranza
    22 | October 20, 2009 10:45

    As a malignant narcissist – Obama has an inordinately high opinion of his ability to “persuade” people to see his point of view. He is going to be humbled soon enough. The question is – is he capable of learning or does his refuse to draw the right answers because he is blinded by ideology?


  22. vapig
    23 | October 20, 2009 10:48

    re: #16 by Beltfed

    Helen Thomas has already told obMao to back off Fox. Other’s are also starting to see the writing on the wall:

    Tapper to Gibbs: Who are you to decide what constitutes a news organization?


  23. Rightside
    24 | October 20, 2009 10:48

    Rush talking about a nyslimes environmental reporter on a panel, suggesting that the country should offer carbon credits to one baby families. You know, since humans are destroying the planet.

    How do they square that with human rights?


  24. Speranza
    25 | October 20, 2009 10:48

    re: #16 by Beltfed

    What a freaking fascist that Obama is. Did Bush treat PMSNBC that way?


  25. 26 | October 20, 2009 10:49

    re: #19 by Nevergiveup

    Well, the truth is that my comment was a true question, not a statement. I know where my “line in the sand is” but I do not speak for Israel.

    You are correct however regarding the slander against Lieberman (I covered how this was going to be done before he came into office)

    The standard line in Israel-Arab conflict thought (beginning before Oslo) has been that if you are not for the far-left idea of “land for peace”, “give the arabs everything”, “end the ‘occupation’ of all post 1967 land”, “make Judea/Samaria judenrein”, “ask nothing of the Arabs”, etc., you are Anti-Peace. Israel had bought into it, and ignored it for so long that it has become entrenched in the Western (liberal) psyche to the point where they don’t even realize how closed minded they are being. (let alone the fact that it was tried at Oslo, etc., and failed miserably, and it has been the only method attempted and we still don’t have anything close to peace)

    This is what you see reflected in Lieberman. He dares point out that the hope & appease policies of Oslo have failed, and thus something new must be tried. Giving money, weapons, training, appeasement, schools, electricity, water, and LAND hasn’t done jack, so he feels Israel should try something different.

    This doesn’t make him anti-Peace, it makes his anti-failure.


  26. Nevergiveup
    27 | October 20, 2009 10:49

    Sports Talk radio here in the NY/NJ area is a buzz with people going bat crazy about Girardi’s pitching moves in the 11th. They want to tar and feather him.


  27. typicalwhitey
    28 | October 20, 2009 10:50

    The WASHINGTON TIMES is linked to white supremist groups?!?! WTF??
    And he posted this AFTER someone put up the proof from the DOJ website!

    102 Charles
    Tue, Oct 20, 2009 10:46:56am replyquote 1downupreport

    re: #85 Guanxi88

    You cannot believe the Washington Times. I suggest you look into this further before freaking out. The Washington Times is known to lie and distort the facts in articles about issues like this one — and there’s a reason for it. This is the newspaper where Robert Stacy McCain worked for years, and where there are numerous connections to white supremacist ideology.


  28. Nevergiveup
    29 | October 20, 2009 10:51

    re: #26 by WrathofG-d

    And a majority of the Israeli populace agrees with him and last I looked Israel was still a thriving Democracy.


  29. buzzsawmonkey
    30 | October 20, 2009 10:51

    OT

    UN concerned that counterterrorist measures unduly penalize transgender persons:

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/55739


  30. typicalwhitey
    31 | October 20, 2009 10:51

    two posters are pointing out the DOJ post LOL


  31. 32 | October 20, 2009 10:51

    Hate to see the words huffington post on here but we know how obama loves this group.

    In a press release given to the Huffington Post and other press outlets this morning, White House Communications Director Anita Dunn stated that the Federal Communications Commission was asked to fine the FOX Corporation for violations of the Broadcast Decency Enforcement Act of 2005. This came after repeated racist and derogatory attacks made on FOXNews over the last two years.

    In accordance with the 2005 law, every time the network featured a “particularly offensive” or “flagrantly untruthful” segment, a fine is levied. White House officials estimate the 2008-2009 fine to be nearing $29 million.

    http://righthandedpitcher.blogspot.com/2009/10/obama-administration-asks-fcc-to-fine.html


  32. typicalwhitey
    33 | October 20, 2009 10:52

    And a NEW POST IS UP!
    Right on time.


  33. Beltfed
    34 | October 20, 2009 10:53

    re: #21 by WrathofG-d

    “free press”

    This is the only free press I see around here ;)


  34. 35 | October 20, 2009 10:53

    re: #28 by typicalwhitey

    Robert S.McCain..Please sue this bastard.I believe you can. Clip that ponytail sob.


  35. typicalwhitey
    36 | October 20, 2009 10:53

    re: #32 by Grimcargo

    Are you sure this is true?


  36. Nevergiveup
    37 | October 20, 2009 10:54

    re: #30 by buzzsawmonkey

    Yeah I was just worrying about that last night? What the Fu….?


  37. Russkilitlover
    38 | October 20, 2009 10:55

    re: #6 by buzzsawmonkey

    I was hoping you’d come out with your excellent presentation of ‘human rights’ vs. liberty. Thanks!

    Delectable – excellent post!


  38. LGoPs
    40 | October 20, 2009 10:55

    re: #22 by Speranza

    As a malignant narcissist – Obama has an inordinately high opinion of his ability to “persuade” people to see his point of view. He is going to be humbled soon enough. The question is – is he capable of learning or does his refuse to draw the right answers because he is blinded by ideology?

    Narcissists are congenitally incapable of learning from their past mistakes. They won’t even acknowledge them because self reflection is a quality they don’t possess. That’s why they always need to be ‘bravely forging ahead into the future’; moveon.orging and all that other bullshit……..


  39. Nevergiveup
    41 | October 20, 2009 10:57

    re: #39 by vapig

    Yes


  40. 42 | October 20, 2009 10:57

    re: #29 by Nevergiveup

    Well that is another point hated by the Progressives.

    They will swear up and down that an Israeli democracy is the most important thing to ensure (this is most often brought up in the context of granting Terrorists rights, and Arab minority the ability to destroy the Jewish character of Israel) until Israel votes in democratically what some would call a “far right” Government. (this term does NOT describe Bibi & Co now)

    I also ask whether a Jewish State and Democracy are compatible without taking semi-undemocratic steps to ensure a Jewish majority.

    ~lots of open ended questions today…


  41. song_and_dance_man
    43 | October 20, 2009 10:57

    re: #28 by typicalwhitey

    I just had to go take a look. His comments are falling and ours are rising.

    Hi Charles

    Bwaahahaha


  42. vapig
    44 | October 20, 2009 10:57

    re: #28 by typicalwhitey

    Figures! This is the only paper in this area that people can stomach!

    I already get several calls a week from the ComPast begging me to take their paper for FREE! They can’t even GIVE it away!


  43. 45 | October 20, 2009 10:58

    re: #23 by vapig

    Without a doubt that Gibbs is the most stupid of all time spokesman for the office of the Pres.
    I am thinking Obama is trying to stop Fox before they REALLY uncover something. They are running scared.


  44. Russkilitlover
    46 | October 20, 2009 11:00

    re: #17 by Beltfed

    Or taken down brick by brick and the land sown with salt.

    *channeling Shirley Jackson*


  45. 47 | October 20, 2009 11:00

    re: #43 by song_and_dance_man

    Poor chuckie. donuts don’t have icing anymore. soon no donuts. Poor chuckle every arsehole always get what they deserve.

    channeling songndance; Hi charles waving.


  46. Rightside
    48 | October 20, 2009 11:01

    re: #45 by Grimcargo

    He beat didi myers in his first week alone. She was the worst until gibbs.


  47. LGoPs
    49 | October 20, 2009 11:02

    re: #43 by song_and_dance_man

    Just a casual glance at The Chuck’s comment counts shows a drastic reduction. Many below 200.
    Must be a by product of Global Warming or some such factor. Certainly nothing to do with him.
    Nope.


  48. Nevergiveup
    50 | October 20, 2009 11:02

    re: #42 by WrathofG-d

    Well in my humble opinion Democracy does not equal suicide. Survival comes first.


  49. 51 | October 20, 2009 11:02

    re: #35 by Grimcargo

    as sure as I can be. It’s at Atlas.


  50. Beltfed
    52 | October 20, 2009 11:05

    re: #30 by buzzsawmonkey

    Simple solution, if the hag-in-a-bag sports a pecker, it’s a terrorist.


  51. typicalwhitey
    53 | October 20, 2009 11:05

    re: #22 by Speranza

    You are EXACTLY right.
    Obama thinks that if he SAYS it, others MUST believe it.

    Talk about stuck on himself!


  52. buzzsawmonkey
    55 | October 20, 2009 11:06

    re: #52 by Beltfed

    You should be ashamed of yourself, profiling Muslim drag queens like that.


  53. kiwiviv
    56 | October 20, 2009 11:06

    It seems to me that this clip of Red Skelton’s Pledge of Allegiance fit with the discussion here. This is worth the viewing:

    http://www.youtube.com/watchv=TZBTyTWOZCM&feature=related


  54. 57 | October 20, 2009 11:07

    re: #55 by buzzsawmonkey

    ROFLMAO


  55. song_and_dance_man
    58 | October 20, 2009 11:08

    re: #55 by buzzsawmonkey

    Shouldn’t that be Muslim bag queens?


  56. buzzsawmonkey
    59 | October 20, 2009 11:08

    re: #58 by song_and_dance_man

    Heh™.


  57. song_and_dance_man
    60 | October 20, 2009 11:09

    re: #49 by LGoPs

    It’s kinda sad. I think that is real pity I feel.


  58. RIX
    61 | October 20, 2009 11:09

    re: #45 by Grimcargo

    That is a great observation. The Administration owns the Media , with the exception of Fox.
    Why do they have their noses so out of joint?
    The real concern here is the totalitarian actions by the Administration & the chill on the rest of the Media.


  59. typicalwhitey
    62 | October 20, 2009 11:09

    Oh My!

    From the chicago suntimes:

    You’d think it’s October 2008, the final month in the Obama presidential candidacy, rather than October 2009, nine months into the Obama presidency. Yet the Obama White House is in full campaign mode — maybe because it needs to mask the shortcomings of the Obama presidency.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/huntley/1834209,CST-EDT-HUNT20.article#


  60. buzzsawmonkey
    63 | October 20, 2009 11:10

    Obama is Jason. The Media have fallen in love with him, and will help him in his quest for the Golden Fleece.

    Don’t you just love Greek mythology?


  61. 64 | October 20, 2009 11:11

    The Obama administration believes blacks need Democrat candidates on ballot to achieve equal voting rights, they cannot have non-partisan elections, they might (gasp) elect Republicans by mistake!

    http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.com/2009/10/obama-adminstration-voting-democrat-is.html


  62. LGoPs
    65 | October 20, 2009 11:12

    Why all this worry about people clad in muslin? It’s a plain woven, sheer to coarse cotton fabric that shouldn’t be threatening to anyone.
    There’s nothing terrorist about it. Heck, terry cloth would be more terrifying and that I could understand given the etymology, but muslin?
    I don’t see what all the hub bub is about…..
    *scratching head*


  63. song_and_dance_man
    66 | October 20, 2009 11:12

    re: #62 by typicalwhitey

    Ha. Thrown under a hometown bus.


  64. typicalwhitey
    67 | October 20, 2009 11:15

    how do you bold a post?


  65. LGoPs
    68 | October 20, 2009 11:17

    re: #63 by buzzsawmonkey

    And the Democratic Party is Sisyphus, translated in the modern vernacular to…er SissyPussies……


  66. Scott Madsen
    69 | October 20, 2009 11:17

    re: #62 by typicalwhitey

    Check out the poll too….Zero is getting %92 negative in his own backyard.

    Of course %20 of that nagativity is hardcore Chichomtown leftists that think he’s not tearing it all down quick enough.


  67. Beltfed
    70 | October 20, 2009 11:17

    re: #49 by LGoPs

    I saw that, 500 for the overnight, and most under 300. tsk, tsk, tsk


  68. Nikis Knight
    71 | October 20, 2009 11:18

    re: #67 by typicalwhitey

    Give it whiskey.

    Or type strong in between your less-than, greater-than signs.


  69. 72 | October 20, 2009 11:19

    re: #62 by typicalwhitey

    uh oh that writer is going to have to stand in the corner.


  70. LGoPs
    73 | October 20, 2009 11:19

    re: #67 by typicalwhitey

    how do you bold a post?

    You have to start early, teaching it to stand up for itself and not be pushed around. Building confidence in itself is the answer……..
    :)


  71. typicalwhitey
    74 | October 20, 2009 11:19

    OUCH!!!

    White House Communications Director Anita Dunn told a group of high school students last June that former Chinese communist dictator Mao Zedong was one of her two favorite political philosophers, and you could tell she was speaking from the heart. Her earnest appeal to the teenagers to fight their own wars, as Mao had counseled when challenged within his own party, was clearly meant as a call to activism. “You fight your war and I’ll fight mine,” she quoted Mao as saying, because apparently Mao was all about personal choice.

    Of course, Mao’s usual response to those who questioned his authority was to have them killed, but mentioning that inconvenient truth might detract from Miss Dunn anointing him a philosopher.

    http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/20/what-would-mao-do/#

    Excellent read, with some killer snark thrown in for good!


  72. kiwiviv
    75 | October 20, 2009 11:19

    re: #67 by typicalwhitey

    Yeah – Reasonable people want to know – also, how to you get those big green quotation marks?

    I sense a GREEN conspiracy here!


  73. typicalwhitey
    76 | October 20, 2009 11:21

    re: #75 by kiwiviv

    your story here

    Remove the spaces!


  74. Nikis Knight
    77 | October 20, 2009 11:22

    re: #75 by kiwiviv

    They give them out if you have a green job.

    or type blockquote and /blockquote in between less-than, greater than signs; shift , and shift .


  75. typicalwhitey
    78 | October 20, 2009 11:23

    re: #75 by kiwiviv

    argh!

    insert story here

    remove spaces
    dont use the “” marks either lol


  76. Scott Madsen
    79 | October 20, 2009 11:23

    re: #68 by LGoPs

    ….you need to visualize Sisyphis as a dung bettle in that analogy…..they have been rolling their ball of shit up hill toward Liberties light house at least ninety years.

    the ball of dirty lies keeps getting bigger too….I pray it squashes that beetle some day so we all don’t suffer in some eternal struggle of persitant ignorance.


  77. Beltfed
    80 | October 20, 2009 11:23

    re: #55 by buzzsawmonkey

    I apologize.
    I’ll go sit in the corner and take a time out.

    don’t ban me bro


  78. typicalwhitey
    81 | October 20, 2009 11:23

    forget it!!


  79. typicalwhitey
    82 | October 20, 2009 11:24

    re: #73 by LGoPs

    HAAHAHA!


  80. LGoPs
    83 | October 20, 2009 11:25

    re: #81 by typicalwhitey

    Forget what?
    :)


  81. buzzsawmonkey
    84 | October 20, 2009 11:26

    re: #79 by Scott Madsen

    ….you need to visualize Sisyphis as a dung bettle in that analogy

    Scarabs never get better if you pick ‘em.


  82. kiwiviv
    85 | October 20, 2009 11:26

    Thanks for the help folks.

    Pastor’s Business Card

    A new pastor was visiting in the homes of his parishioners. At one
    house it seemed obvious that someone was at home, but no answer came
    to his repeated knocks at the door.

    Therefore, he took out a business card and wrote ‘Revelation 3:20′ on
    the back of it and stuck it in the door.

    When the offering was processed the following Sunday, he found that
    his card had been returned. Added to it was this cryptic message,
    ‘Genesis 3:10.’

    Reaching for his Bible to check out the citation, he broke up in gales
    of laughter. Revelation 3:20 begins ‘Behold, I stand at the door and
    knock.’ Genesis 3:10 reads, ‘I heard your voice in the garden and I
    was afraid for I was naked.’


  83. 86 | October 20, 2009 11:27

    27 Charles Tue, Oct 20, 2009 11:03:11am replyquote

    * 1
    * down
    * up
    * report

    re: #24 researchok

    It will be interesting to see who ends up apologizing for wrongly excoriating Charles and LGF over the RSM brouhaha.

    I’m not holding my breath.
    ……………………………
    Please do hold your breath ponytail boy. They been blaming cow farts too long..


  84. kiwiviv
    87 | October 20, 2009 11:29

  85. typicalwhitey
    88 | October 20, 2009 11:29

    re: #83 by LGoPs

    I was trying to show how to use the “quotes” on here but everytime I did, it just showed up as quotes LOL


  86. kiwiviv
    89 | October 20, 2009 11:30

    Oh dear – I am still “green” challenged!


  87. 90 | October 20, 2009 11:31

    Great post Delectable!


  88. kiwiviv
    91 | October 20, 2009 11:31

    Oh dear – I am still “green” challenged!

    I use a MacBook Air – is that my problem?


  89. Eliana
    92 | October 20, 2009 11:31

    Well, it’s October 20th and Obama’s Gallup Poll approval rating is back down to 50%.

    His Rasmussen Poll rating is back down to 47%.

    In another recent poll, only 43% of Americans would vote for Obama for President if he runs against an unknown and unnamed candidate.

    Obama is hurting and he hasn’t figured out why yet.

    His anti-American and anti-Israel stances (while trying to court nations that torture, rape and murder their own people) has a lot to do with it.


  90. typicalwhitey
    93 | October 20, 2009 11:31

    re: #87 by kiwiviv

    Kiwiviv oh where did you go??

    A funny.

    This is what sharm wishes she could say to cj (The last line):

    I hope others follow AJ’s lead. You are beacon of light, Mr. Johnson. Don’t stop. Ever


  91. 94 | October 20, 2009 11:31

    re: #86 by Grimcargo

    Quite impressed with themselves aren’t they.

    *Newsflash* other than us over here in obsession-ville, most don’t know and don’t give a rats touchas about the ex-musician.


  92. BuddyG
    95 | October 20, 2009 11:32

    Anti-Human Rights Chia Obama


  93. typicalwhitey
    96 | October 20, 2009 11:34

    re: #94 by WrathofG-d

    I am guilty.
    Punish me as you will….


  94. LGoPs
    97 | October 20, 2009 11:34

    re: #88 by typicalwhitey

    Heh,
    Here you go kiwiviv:

    Copy the comment you want to quote and paste it into the comments box. Then, at the very beginning of the comment (don’t leave spaces) type a ‘less than sign followed by the word blockquote and follow that with a ‘greater than sin.
    then go to the end of the comment and type a ‘less than sign, then a forward slash, the word blockquote and followit with a ‘greater than sign.
    Leave no spaces whatsover.
    This should put the comment into the green qoute bracket.
    :)


  95. Scott Madsen
    98 | October 20, 2009 11:35

    re: #84 by buzzsawmonkey

    “Scarabs never get better if you pick ‘em”

    My mummy told me the same thing.


  96. kiwiviv
    99 | October 20, 2009 11:36

    re: #93 by typicalwhitey

    HAH!!

    At every mention of “Sharm,” I have an involuntary reaction and reach for a big stick!! I have this urge to beat something and the dog runs for cover!


  97. typicalwhitey
    100 | October 20, 2009 11:36

    re: #97 by LGoPs

    Do you know how to bold things?
    (Seriously)


  98. kiwiviv
    101 | October 20, 2009 11:38

    re: #97 by LGoPs

    Copy the comment you want to quote and paste it into the comments box. Then, at the very beginning of the comment (don’t leave spaces) type a ‘less than sign followed by the word blockquote and follow that with a ‘greater than sin.
    then go to the end of the comment and type a ‘less than sign, then a forward slash, the word blockquote and followit with a ‘greater than sign.
    Leave no spaces whatsover.
    This should put the comment into the green qoute bracket.


  99. kiwiviv
    102 | October 20, 2009 11:39

    I DID IT!!!!


  100. Nikis Knight
    103 | October 20, 2009 11:39

    re: #92 by Eliana

    Heck, I wouldn’t vote for him if he was running un-opposed.


  101. Nevergiveup
    104 | October 20, 2009 11:39

    French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner canceled a visit to Israel scheduled for next week over issues related to the Goldstone Commissions report, Channel 2 reported Tuesday night.

    France decided not to vote on the report, which accuses Israel of war crimes and possible crimes against humanity during Operation Cast Lead, when it was discussed in the United Nations Human Rights Council last Friday.

    According to Channel 2, Kouchner was told that Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahuwould not have time to meet with him this month, though French officials said the visit was simply delayed due to technical issues


  102. kiwiviv
    106 | October 20, 2009 11:40

    re: #97 by LGoPs

    Thank you so much – that all seems to be quite the procedure.

    Ahem…we didn’t have to do all that over at the “other” place.


  103. LGoPs
    107 | October 20, 2009 11:40

    re: #100 by typicalwhitey

    Yes. Using the same convention, type the less than sign and the word strong, followed by the greater than sign right in front of the word you want to bold – no spaces.
    At the end of the word or phrase type the less than sign followed by a forward slash, the word strong and then a greater than sign. Again no spaces.
    That should work. Try it.
    :)


  104. typicalwhitey
    108 | October 20, 2009 11:40

    Does Moe post on the swamp?
    Just curious.


  105. LGoPs
    109 | October 20, 2009 11:42

    re: #106 by kiwiviv

    Agreed. But we did have to twist ourselves into pretzels at the other place. This is a small price to pay in comparison.
    :)


  106. BuddyG
    110 | October 20, 2009 11:42

    re: #98 by Scott Madsen

    Speaking of scarabs what happened to mercurochrome ?


  107. Nikis Knight
    111 | October 20, 2009 11:42

    re: #100 by typicalwhitey

    Use the word strong in between the less-than, greater-than signs.


  108. LGoPs
    112 | October 20, 2009 11:42

    re: #102 by kiwiviv

    Excellent.
    :)


  109. typicalwhitey
    113 | October 20, 2009 11:43

    The H1N1 vaccine will arrive too late to help most Americans who will be infected during this flu season, according to a study conducted by scholars at Purdue University</blockquote?
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/20/study-swine-flu-vaccine-too-late-to-help-most/#

    Please take over my healthcare…PLEASEEEEEEEEE


  110. typicalwhitey
    114 | October 20, 2009 11:44

    re: #111 by Nikis Knight

    thanks


  111. 115 | October 20, 2009 11:44

    re: #96 by typicalwhitey

    Nothing to apologize for.


  112. 116 | October 20, 2009 11:47

    re: #108 by typicalwhitey

    Did I miss something? Did we lose someone?


  113. kiwiviv
    117 | October 20, 2009 11:47

    re: #109 by LGoPs

    This price is veryworth it – thank you


  114. LGoPs
    118 | October 20, 2009 11:48

    re: #117 by kiwiviv

    My pleasure.
    :)


  115. kiwiviv
    119 | October 20, 2009 11:49

    re: #118 by LGoPs

    :)

    I see that I took the “no spaces” instruction a little too far


  116. typicalwhitey
    120 | October 20, 2009 11:50

    re: #116 by Grimcargo

    No. I was just curious.
    Moe has a distinctive style of writing.
    I was just curious.


  117. buzzsawmonkey
    121 | October 20, 2009 11:50

    re: #110 by BuddyG

    Mercurochrome used to be all over the bumpers of the Lincoln Mercury.


  118. LGoPs
    122 | October 20, 2009 11:50

    re: #117 by kiwiviv

    BTW, if you want to italicize use the same convention. Just replace strong or blockquote with em between the less than and greater than signs.


  119. typicalwhitey
    123 | October 20, 2009 11:50

    Headline of the Day!!

    Obama wingnuts get a toke of respect

    Barack Obama’s Justice Department said it would encourage U.S. attorneys to look the other way when they see hollow-eyed potheads emerging from the legal pot shops dispensing the noxious weed to “medical smokers.”

    (coffee out the nose…hurts!!)


  120. typicalwhitey
    124 | October 20, 2009 11:52

    Headline of the Day:

    Obama wingnuts get a toke of respect

    Barack Obama’s Justice Department said it would encourage U.S. attorneys to look the other way when they see hollow-eyed potheads emerging from the legal pot shops dispensing the noxious weed to “medical smokers.”

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/20/pruden-obama-wingnuts-get-a-toke-of-respect/?feat=home_headlines


  121. vagabond trader
    125 | October 20, 2009 11:53

    re: #113 by typicalwhitey

    Another unintended consequence, the seasonal flu vaccine is in short supply as well.


  122. typicalwhitey
    126 | October 20, 2009 11:53

    SORRY!
    did a double post again!
    sorry.


  123. maxhdrm
    127 | October 20, 2009 11:53

    OT but if any of you great guys and gals play darts…

    Please check out these new darts and let me know what you think on my site.

    http://darts.akmachinenm.com/


  124. kansas
    128 | October 20, 2009 11:53

    re: #28 by typicalwhitey“You cannot believe the Washington Times. I suggest you look into this further before freaking out. The Washington Times is known to lie and distort the facts in articles about issues like this one — and there’s a reason for it. This is the newspaper where Robert Stacy McCain worked for years, and where there are numerous connections to white supremacist ideology.”

    What’s with this white supremacist BS?


  125. LGoPs
    129 | October 20, 2009 11:53

    re: #121 by buzzsawmonkey

    And a little known fact is that fishmongers never, ever drove Mercury’s. Cause of the fear of poisoning their fish, of course.

    A very little known fact.


  126. typicalwhitey
    130 | October 20, 2009 11:54

    oh reallllly


  127. kiwiviv
    131 | October 20, 2009 11:54

    re: #122 by LGoPs

    I am most grateful for your help


  128. buzzsawmonkey
    132 | October 20, 2009 11:55

    re: #129 by LGoPs

    Fishmongers, in any case, are for the most part humble people who would scorn such pompano and circumstance.


  129. vagabond trader
    133 | October 20, 2009 11:55

    re: #127 by maxhdrm

    Haven’t played in years but those are beautiful!


  130. LGoPs
    134 | October 20, 2009 11:55

    re: #131 by kiwiviv

    No problemo……
    :)


  131. typicalwhitey
    135 | October 20, 2009 11:56

    re: #128 by kansas

    I was quoting cj kansas (just wanted to make sure you knew that)

    He is obsessed with it. He sees it everywhere.
    Because Obama is his ‘guy’ now I think.

    Anyone else?….


  132. LGoPs
    136 | October 20, 2009 11:57

    re: #132 by buzzsawmonkey

    For the love of Cod I hope we’re not starting a fish pun thread. I have to go to a meeting.


  133. typicalwhitey
    137 | October 20, 2009 11:58

    re: #131 by kiwiviv

    Are you sure


  134. buzzsawmonkey
    138 | October 20, 2009 11:58

    re: #136 by LGoPs

    I think we’re fin-ished.


  135. maxhdrm
    139 | October 20, 2009 11:59

    re: #133 by vagabond trader

    thanks, I make them myself.


  136. typicalwhitey
    140 | October 20, 2009 11:59

    re: #136 by LGoPs

    Fry hope not!


  137. 141 | October 20, 2009 12:00

    I have to say WHY O WHY SARAH? going into the vipers’ pit. Very disappointed.Oprah interviews Sarah (new book)

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33400034/ns/entertainment-television/


  138. Carolina Girl
    142 | October 20, 2009 12:01

    re: #92 by Eliana

    He’s totally put his foot in it over Fox News. These clowns have let in Opinion bloggers, over some objection by the WHPC, and now they want to have Fox News kicked out, but they want the WHPC to do it.

    I’ve never liked Helen Thomas, but she knows suppression of free speech and a free press when she sees it, as does Jack Tapper. Family Guy and the Big Zero are going to wish they’d never opened their mouth to bitch about Fox.


  139. snork
    143 | October 20, 2009 12:01

    re: #136 by LGoPs

    Keep clam.


  140. typicalwhitey
    144 | October 20, 2009 12:01

    Alright, I must go and do a little housecleaning before the hubster thinks I just sat around having fun on this blog all day…
    Will be back later (sooner probably lol)

    I cannot tell you how much I enjoy being here!!
    I have missed some of you so much!!


  141. maxhdrm
    145 | October 20, 2009 12:02

    re: #141 by Grimcargo

    I hope Sarah puts the O prah away. could be unitentionaly hilarious.


  142. Flyovercountry
    146 | October 20, 2009 12:04

    re: #113 by typicalwhitey

    My girlfriend is a nurse at one of the area hospitals. She informed me the other day that, anybody who has the flu, with a fever beyond 100 degrees is considered to have H1N1 automatically. So there you have it, we have changed the definition of H1N1 in our country in order to inflate the numbers of reportable cases. A good public panic is a terrible thing to waste. This is what America has become. All of you, I am certain know people in the health care field, ask them if these same definitions exist outside of Ohio.


  143. Carolina Girl
    147 | October 20, 2009 12:04

    re: #141 by Grimcargo

    I’m sorry to see her do it. I would have preferred her to go on Beck or Hannity’s show first. Unless that’s what she’s planning to do. I’d be amused to see if Letterman tries to book her for his show (a la McCain) because it’ll help his ratings. And Sarah goes on Conan O’Brien’s show instead during sweeps week.


  144. typicalwhitey
    148 | October 20, 2009 12:05

    re: #141 by Grimcargo

    Neccessary PR work.
    She wants to be taken seriously and she has to fix womens opinions about her first imo.

    I love Sarah but her interviews last year were not the best. What better way to get her real self across than to appear on a highly rated show.

    It also shows she is not afraid of those who are on the other side of the political spectrum…unlike our potus.

    Food for thought.


  145. buzzsawmonkey
    149 | October 20, 2009 12:06

    re: #136 by LGoPs

    Remember, you don’t have to get bivalved unless you want to join in. This is a friendly place, not your anemone.


  146. vapig
    150 | October 20, 2009 12:07

    re: #106 by kiwiviv

    We didn’t have to do it here either. But the traffic grew at such a rate that something had to be sacrificed to speed up the site.

    I believe when the admins switch servers this will be sorrected and we’ll get all our bells and whistles back.


  147. Beltfed
    151 | October 20, 2009 12:07

    re: #121 by buzzsawmonkey

    lol


  148. BuddyG
    152 | October 20, 2009 12:08

    re: #121 by buzzsawmonkey

    This Bumper ?


  149. chickadee
    153 | October 20, 2009 12:10

    re: #22 by Speranza

    He’s not going to learn a thing. He will just get more and more strident and demanding. He is too far gone into his narcissism.
    I mean, has the media very referred to an American president as a ‘god’ before. The dumb jerk believes this kind of shit and he expects the results that being a messiah entails.
    He will melt down publicly or do something really crazy before he can take an objective look at himself.
    I heard Rush play a clip the other day where the grifter said:
    ‘I haven’t begun to fight.’ ‘I won’t back down.’ ‘I’m ready to get this done.’ ‘I’m going after this.’ ‘I’ll bring it.” Stuff like that to an audience. Non-stop ‘I’m’ ‘I’ll’ ‘I’, ‘I’ve’ Me Me Me Me Me Me .
    He is dangerous.


  150. kansas
    154 | October 20, 2009 12:11

    re: #135 by typicalwhitey

    I know you were quoting CJ. I just don’t get that RS McCain is a white supremacist, that the Washington Times is a white supremacist organization, or how CJ gets away with what appears to be libeling McCain as a white supremacist almost daily. I am not a fan of McCain’s site but I have looked at it and don’t see that aspect. I see Meghan McCain’s and Pam Anderson’s boobs however. Does that bother CJ?


  151. Ed Mahmoud
    155 | October 20, 2009 12:15

    Pamela Andreson would have been an attractive woman if she hadn’t had her boobs inflated to cartoonish levels.

    I like a nice bust myself, but smaller, natural boobs, thinking Natalie Portman or Gwen Stefani, look, and no doubt feel, better than overinflated chest volleyballs.


  152. snork
    156 | October 20, 2009 12:15

    re: #154 by kansas

    You haven’t been paying attention, have you. The question over there isn’t who is a white supremacist, but who isn’t. If Michelle Malkin is presumed to be a white supremacist, the term has lost all meaning.


  153. vagabond trader
    157 | October 20, 2009 12:16

    GOOD! Say what you will about Hannity but he is letting The Obama Corp know that he will NOT back down and he is motivated to continue exposing the thugs.


  154. vagabond trader
    158 | October 20, 2009 12:18

    re: #155 by Ed Mahmoud

    She was a pretty girl next door type before all the scaffolding.


  155. BuddyG
    159 | October 20, 2009 12:18

    Better Bumper


  156. kansas
    160 | October 20, 2009 12:18

    re: #156 by snorkYou haven’t been paying attention, have you. The question over there isn’t who is a white supremacist, but who isn’t. If Michelle Malkin is presumed to be a white supremacist, the term has lost all meaning.

    Apparently if you disagree with CJ you are a white supremacist. If you are an ass kisser you are not.


  157. Ed Mahmoud
    161 | October 20, 2009 12:18

    Filipina’s aren’t honorary white people?


  158. vagabond trader
    162 | October 20, 2009 12:20

    re: #159 by BuddyG

    Nice car Buddy.

    :mrgreen:


  159. Beltfed
    163 | October 20, 2009 12:21

    re: #136 by LGoPs

    fish puns are flukes


  160. buzzsawmonkey
    164 | October 20, 2009 12:22

    re: #161 by Ed Mahmoud

    They just Tagalog for the ride.


  161. Ed Mahmoud
    165 | October 20, 2009 12:22

    159 BuddyG

    Are those butt implants?

    Yowza. She’d look better smiling though.


  162. Speranza
    166 | October 20, 2009 12:22

    Too funny

    Andrea Mitchell “I would not refer to George Soros as a “Left-Wing”….Wait, Did She Just Say George Soros Isn’t Left-Wing?….
    http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/10/andrea-mitchell-i-would-not-classify-george-soros-as-leftwingwait-did-she-say-george-soros-isnt-left.html


  163. snork
    167 | October 20, 2009 12:25

    Boob thread?


  164. BuddyG
    168 | October 20, 2009 12:25

    re: #165 by Ed Mahmoud

    Smells like fish ?


  165. snowcrash
    169 | October 20, 2009 12:25

    re: #146 by Flyovercountry
    Please consider that this time of year the seasonal flu is not prevalent. Any cluster of viral symptoms including high fever, aches pains, coughs is probably H1. So, that said, keep your children home from school, stay home from work and call ahead at the MD’s office. They may NOT want to see you, just hear symptoms, give advice, call in scripts and follow the progression of symptoms.


  166. Iron Fist
    170 | October 20, 2009 12:25

    re: #16 by Beltfed

    Obama certainly knows how to define victory: the marginalization of Fox News. Defeating al Qaeda? Important Democrat Demographics involved, there. It wouldn’t do to be too pushy…


  167. snork
    171 | October 20, 2009 12:27

    Better nipple this in the bud…


  168. Bunk X
    172 | October 20, 2009 12:28

    re: #149 by buzzsawmonkey

    Post what you like, just don’t post carp.


  169. typicalwhitey
    173 | October 20, 2009 12:28

    re: #154 by kansas

    They see EVERYONE as a white supremacist…if they oppose the O.

    And yes that does include Michelle Malkin.

    Since cj is for bashing BOTH sides…. when Olberdouche called Michelle a bag of mashed up meat with lipstick, cj IMMEDIATELY lept to her defen….

    oh wait.


  170. BuddyG
    174 | October 20, 2009 12:29

    Catch of the Day


  171. typicalwhitey
    175 | October 20, 2009 12:32

    re: #172 by Bunk X

    I’ll keep a shark eye out.


  172. Iron Fist
    176 | October 20, 2009 12:33

    re: #160 by kansas

    A “white supremacist” is anyone who disagrees with a liberal. That is how Clarence Thomas got to be a “white supremacist”.


  173. BuddyG
    177 | October 20, 2009 12:34

    Great White Supremacist


  174. Flyovercountry
    178 | October 20, 2009 12:35

    re: #169 by snowcrash

    Were you being serious or sarcastic? It could go either way. Since I have yet to have the flu in my life, I am not really aware of when seasonal flu time is. I can tell you however, I am specifically not really afraid of H1N1. Obama on the other hand, scares the hell out of me.


  175. kansas
    179 | October 20, 2009 12:37

    re: #176 by Iron Fist

    That clears it up. Course doesn’t explain how a fairly decent and balanced web site turned into shit.


  176. blondgranny
    180 | October 20, 2009 12:38

    The WH is totally stupid! Gibbs today reference specifically Beck and Hannity as part of their problems with Fox.

    Apparently he does not know the difference between news and opinion.

    But I bet they just looooooooovvvvvvvvveeee
    the slobbering Keith O.

    This entire bunch in the WH needs to go someplace where they are looking for a group of good socialists.


  177. Speranza
    181 | October 20, 2009 12:39

    Chris Matthews acts like a jerk to a Texas tea party guy who more then holds his own.

    http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/10/close-encounter-with-craziness.html#comments


  178. Beltfed
    182 | October 20, 2009 12:40

    re: #174 by BuddyG

    Throw her back, below size limit.


  179. Nevergiveup
    183 | October 20, 2009 12:41

    A radical New York imam who was once investigated as a possible co-conspirator in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center will share the stage Saturday night as a featured guest and speaker when the Council on American-Islamic Relations celebrates its 15th anniversary in Washington.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568709,00.html

    Isn’t that just dandy?


  180. Nevergiveup
    184 | October 20, 2009 12:43

    Sarah Palin is going to sit down with Oprah Winfrey.
    Harpo Productions announced Tuesday that the former governor of Alaska and Republican vice presidential candidate will appear on “The Oprah Winfrey Show” on Monday, Nov. 16.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9BF07382&show_article=1

    I for one am going to e-mail Palin NOT to go on that show.


  181. buzzsawmonkey
    185 | October 20, 2009 12:43

    re: #178 by Flyovercountry

    I have lived through I don’t know how many dire predictions of flu epidemics since the Ford Administration, when the first great Swine Flu Panic that I recall occurred.

    Not a single one of them has ever materialized into something like the Great Flu Epidemic at the close of WWI—instead, the media have always gone scouring the hustings to find a death or two that they can trumpet as evidence that we’re all gonna die, and soon.

    Yes, there are a lot of people who will get the flu this year. Some few of them will die, because there are always a few people who do succumb from the flu, though most do not.

    The only reason that the current flu is being constantly harped on is to keep people who have not gotten a flu shot—can’t afford it! they’re out of stock! omigodomigodomigod! I’m doomed!—is to increase worry and make them hope that if only/when Obamacare is passed they will Never Have To Worry Again.

    Come to the big security blanket, folks. It’s nice and warm and you don’t have to think for yourself ever again.


  182. kansas
    186 | October 20, 2009 12:44

    re: #180 by blondgranny

    I think they are looking for some socialists here.
    http://ludb.clui.org/ex/i/NV3173/


  183. snowcrash
    187 | October 20, 2009 12:45

    re: #178 by Flyovercountry

    Serious. Your girlfriend is correct. BUT, you cannot report it as a documented case of H1 unless you swab for it and it tests positive. This has nothing to do with the politics of flu vaccination or health policy. Just facts about the flu. BTW “seasonal flu” starts showing up late fall.


  184. mfhorn
    188 | October 20, 2009 12:46

    From the 10/19/2009 ‘Patriot Post’
    Government
    “The most revelatory passage in the so-called ‘plain English’ version of the health care bill that the Senate Finance Committee approved on Tuesday (without ever drafting the actual legislative language) says that in the future Americans will be offered the convenience of getting their health insurance at the Department of Motor Vehicles. This is no joke. If this bill becomes law, it will be the duty of the U.S. secretary of health and human services or the state governments overseeing federally mandated health-insurance exchanges to ensure that you can get your health insurance at the DMV. You will also be able to get it at Social Security offices, hospitals, schools and ‘other offices’ the government will name later. Page 19 of the committee’s ‘plain English’ text says: ‘The Secretary and/or states would do the following: … Enable customers to enroll in health care plans in local hospitals, schools, Departments of Motor Vehicles, local Social Security offices, and other offices designated by the state.’ This is the bill’s most revelatory passage because it sublimely symbolizes the bill’s true aim: a government takeover of the health care system. You do not get food at the DMV. You do not even get auto insurance at the DMV. But under what The Associated Press inaptly calls the Finance Committee’s ‘middle-of-the-road health care plan,’ you will get health insurance at the DMV.” –columnist Terence Jeffrey


  185. 189 | October 20, 2009 12:47

    Now they’re floating “Carbon credits” for not having kids – shades of Kill-your-girl-babies China style government – This is why the Mao-admiration is relevant. Obama’s radical associations and appointments know no bounds.

    Check out the results of this Chicago Sun Times poll:
    Do you approve of the job President Obama has done so far?
    Yes 6% 1623 votes
    No 93% 23251 votes
    Total Votes: 24874

    Find it here – and weigh in ◼ Excuses wearing thin for Obama, media pals – it’s in the sidebar.


  186. Flyovercountry
    190 | October 20, 2009 12:49

    re: #183 by Nevergiveup

    Care is going to become welcome buddies during the Zero’s Administration. the damage that the Zero does daily should be considered a treasonous offence against the United States. I don’t really care if he is or is not a manchurian candidate. The damage he is doing would not be worse either way.


  187. BuddyG
    191 | October 20, 2009 12:50

    White Supremacist Bikini


  188. 192 | October 20, 2009 12:50

    Guess I can’t put in links that open in a new page – here’s a working link. Vote here:

    Excuses wearing thin for Obama, media pals


  189. Ed Mahmoud
    193 | October 20, 2009 12:51

    If Palin doesn’t do Oprah, how will those soccer moms who don’t watch Fox or already read the right side of the internet find out about her.

    Mission into enemy territory, true, but high protential rewards.


  190. Nevergiveup
    194 | October 20, 2009 12:52

    re: #190 by Flyovercountry

    I see you like him as much as I do?


  191. 195 | October 20, 2009 12:52

    re: #184 by Nevergiveup

    Strange Bedfellows: LGF, KOS, DU, HuffPost, CAIR, and The Obama Administration.

    “You can buy a ticket,” Hooper said. “Fox is free to come and harass us if you want.”


  192. chickadee
    196 | October 20, 2009 12:53

    re: #188 by mfhorn

    Getting signed up for health care at the DMV.
    Somehow that just seems to reflect on the quality of care the gov’t has in mind for us.
    That is a step away from telling us where to line up for food.


  193. mfhorn
    197 | October 20, 2009 12:57

    re: #196 by chickadee

    I’m actually a little surprised they won’t sent ACORN out to sign everyone up at their front doors, so they don’t have to put the effort into heading all the way to the DMV.


  194. mfhorn
    198 | October 20, 2009 12:58

    re: #197 by mfhorn

    send, not sent


  195. snowcrash
    199 | October 20, 2009 12:58

    re: #196 by chickadee

    DMV, the gold standard in efficiency! LOL Only a bureaucrat could think this is a good idea.


  196. Carolina Girl
    200 | October 20, 2009 12:59

    re: #188 by mfhorn

    Interesting….this would be the same DMV that the Donks say poor people can’t get to in order to obtain a free state-issued identification for presentation in order to vote.


  197. kansas
    201 | October 20, 2009 12:59

    re: #192 by Rose

    Is the Sun Times a White Supremacist paper?


  198. vagabond trader
    202 | October 20, 2009 13:01

    re: #196 by chickadee

    with Sebelious in charge they’ll probably do abortions out back.


  199. Scott Madsen
    203 | October 20, 2009 13:03

    re: #110 by BuddyG

    Try liquid bandage.


  200. kansas
    204 | October 20, 2009 13:04

    re: #185 by buzzsawmonkey

    “I have lived through I don’t know how many dire predictions of flu epidemics since the Ford Administration, when the first great Swine Flu Panic that I recall occurred.

    Not a single one of them has ever materialized into something like the Great Flu Epidemic at the close of WWI—instead, the media have always gone scouring the hustings to find a death or two that they can trumpet as evidence that we’re all gonna die, and soon.”

    I too have the same memories of flu scares. But I never remember so many offers of free flu shots, drive through flu shots, mall and grocery store flu shots, all of a vaccine that seems to lack proper testing.

    We have a nurse client here from one of the local hospitals who has stories of some pretty horrible reactions already, that include some really bizarre permanent nerve damage, and that’s just from people they know got the shot. I am really concerned about a self fulfilling prophecy here with the shots creating more harm than good. And the live vaccine that is being inhaled, that sounds like a really bad idea, but I am certainly not an expert.


  201. Nevergiveup
    205 | October 20, 2009 13:04

    re: #196 by chickadee

    Getting health care at the DMV will not be so different. I mean I am used to getting fucked there?


  202. Iron Fist
    206 | October 20, 2009 13:05

    re: #179 by kansas

    Ah, there is meth to that madness, I suspect. Or some other substance abuse. There certainly wasn’t money involved, except a lot of it going away from him. Hence all of the begging that has started up just within the last few months. without traffic, ad revenue will dry up, and the Left are notorious skin-flints. Unless he can intrest Sugar-daddy Soros (and why would Sorous want to buy the likes of him when for a paltry few hundred million more he can buy face time with obama?), LGF will be going non-profit for the foreseeable future. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.


  203. Flyovercountry
    207 | October 20, 2009 13:05

    re: #194 by Nevergiveup

    Possibly less. All though, I do believe that he managed to not get in the way of that Samali Pirate thing. So, on that day alone, he managed to not get a failing grade for his Presidency. These last two months have been simply disastrous. It would be funny, except that what he does really matters.


  204. Nevergiveup
    208 | October 20, 2009 13:05

    They are all consumed with Rush again over in the hippie’s commune. Remind me again, What elective Office does Rush hold?


  205. buzzsawmonkey
    209 | October 20, 2009 13:07

    To hell with the vaccines. Government-funded chicken soup for all who fall ill!


  206. Iron Fist
    210 | October 20, 2009 13:07

    re: #205 by Nevergiveup

    Well as long as you use a condom, whatever floats your boat, but we don’t need to hear about your tail-pipe adventures. This is a family blog, after all…


  207. Carolina Girl
    211 | October 20, 2009 13:07

    re: #201 by kansas

    Having spent my formative years in North Carolina around REAL White Supremicists, when people bandy those words about so freely, I’d like to drop them in a middle of a KKK meeting and say “now THESE are White Supremicists, you mother fucking moron!”


  208. Speranza
    212 | October 20, 2009 13:09

    re: #211 by Carolina Girl

    To them a racist or a white supremacist is anyone who dares disagree with them. They’ve robbed the term of all its meaning.


  209. BuddyG
    213 | October 20, 2009 13:09

    re: #203 by Scott Madsen

    Crazy glue for cuts ?


  210. typicalwhitey
    214 | October 20, 2009 13:12

    re: #208 by Nevergiveup

    I want to have a game on Friday night.
    Evertime they post the words insane, batshit crazy or white sepremacist over there, we do shots.

    Anyone with me?


  211. Nikis Knight
    215 | October 20, 2009 13:12

    re: #199 by snowcrash

    Only someone waaaaay out of touch with people could think “You can go to the DMV for it!” is a selling point.


  212. typicalwhitey
    216 | October 20, 2009 13:15

    re: #208 by Nevergiveup

    I want to do a game friday night.

    Everytime they use the words insane, batshit crazy, teh stoopid or white supremacy, we do shots.

    Who is with me??


  213. mfhorn
    217 | October 20, 2009 13:16

    re: #204 by kansas

    Anyone who doesn’t get a flu shot because of fears of reactions is just dumb, uninformed, and relying on scare tactics from the religious fanatics.

    ///


  214. Flyovercountry
    218 | October 20, 2009 13:20

    re: #214 by typicalwhitey

    We have a game already in the works. Maybe we could incorporate new rules. Iron Fist was the originator of this one. Here are the rules so far.

    1 shot each for a sock found, documented Charlie flip, flounce.
    2 shots for stalker bashing, Icepimple, Schmuckatta or hosebeast striking morally superior tone, or Charlie showing overt signs of paranoia.
    3 shots for any reference to Zombie
    4. Shot for every time Chaz announces new hate mail from a flounced/banned ex-lizard.


  215. snowcrash
    219 | October 20, 2009 13:22

    re: #216 by typicalwhitey

    I don’t drink enough to play that game!


  216. 220 | October 20, 2009 13:22

    re: #123 by typicalwhitey

    That follows up what I said about MT’s smoking bans. They banned “Tobacco” nothing else. So I can’t have a legal cigar, in a smoking lounge, but potheads can light up at the freaking grocery store.


  217. 221 | October 20, 2009 13:23

    the problem with marxists and human rights is that they think the government is supposed to recite and defend your rights.

    That isn’t the case… that is your job.

    When the feds try to protect your rights from your neighbor, and your neighbor’s from you, you get oppression.

    You and your neighbor work it out and if you can’t agree, you go to the courts to serve as arbatrator(sp?)….

    when you go to congress or the adminustration you always end up with oppression.


  218. Scott Madsen
    222 | October 20, 2009 13:35

    re: #213 by BuddyG

    No, this is a laquer type sealant with antiseptic. It and the krazy glue stuff are kept in my first aid kit.

    I always kept mecurichrome in my kit for small splinters, cuts, and abrasion on construction sites until it vanished. The liquid bandage is an improvment. Wetwipe, achohol swap or peroxide, then LB it, tape it, and get back to work.

    I glued my shin back together once while six hours out in the desert with the super glue stuff.


  219. Speranza
    223 | October 20, 2009 13:35

    re: #214 by typicalwhitey

    Now that sounds like fun!


  220. mfhorn
    224 | October 20, 2009 13:54

    re: #202 by vagabond trader

    America’s loss (with Sebelius) is Kansas’ gain.


  221. LGoPs
    225 | October 20, 2009 14:03

    re: #163 by Beltfed

    fish puns are flukes

    Stop it. Just stop it. Have you no sole?


  222. RickMZ
    226 | October 20, 2009 15:46

    # 204 kansas

    We have a nurse client here from one of the local hospitals who has stories of some pretty horrible reactions already, that include some really bizarre permanent nerve damage, and that’s just from people they know got the shot.

    A little reported fact is this Administration has exempted manufacturers of the H1N1 vaccines from liability, that is, if one has a serious reaction that causes permanent damage/death, the manufactures cannot be sued. Yet this Administration wants these vaccinations mandatory.


  223. Abu Bin Squid
    227 | October 20, 2009 17:19

    re: #6 by buzzsawmonkey

    Your thoughts are a fine edition to a great post!
    /I can’t find the &%#$@ upding button!


  224. Beltfed
    228 | October 21, 2009 00:30

    re: #225 by LGoPs

    I hake to say this but my sole has floundered and gone completely flat


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