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Lou Dobbs on ‘Piece of Shit’ Bill…
by savage ( 258 Comments › )Filed under Progressives, illegals at November 4th, 2009 - 10:00 pm
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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
How about some freaking amnesty for citizens?
TFK’s been warning us.
They say it’s a myth that lemmings really commit mass suicide. Not so western countries.
Lou’s a racist. That’s it.
Good God. POS does not even come close to describing this bill.
I was going to use that 1.0 traffic chart for an avatar but I don’t think it’s readable.
Purchasing a Constituency
Piece of Shit? Seems like more then a piece. More like the whole friggin Outhouse.
Moe Katz wrote:
It’s also scary. Looks like a bad-news EKG!
@ danrudy:
Very good!!
I have relatives who are trying to get citizenship the legal way. Boy are they stupid.
@ Moe Katz:
2010 elections cant get here fast enough.
Like the new site and look….
off to sleep.
g’night all!
At this rate, we might as well go beyond the Mexicans and extend “amnesty” to everybody in the whole world!
Long Live Loony Largesse
@ wolfie:
Gloating is one of my very favorite sins [cackle]
@ danrudy:
See you soon, Dan!
Amnesty
Legal immigrants should be outraged at this bill.
A lot of Independents that voted for Obama must be getting buyer’s remorse right about now.
My girlfriend is a hard working, law abiding, tax paying LEGAL alien.
She has been contributing to this Country for the past 20 years.
This Amnesty Bill is an insult to every single Legal alien residing in The United States of America.
And we all know damned well that it is just another attempt by the Democratic Party to increase its base and gain complete control.
I am now absolutely convinced that they want to destroy this country and turn it into their own socialist workers paradise.
Power to the Correct People!
@ IslandLibertarian:
Nancy Pelosi is smiling all the way while they try to do it, too.
BuddyG wrote:
It won’t just be Mexicans.
It will be the whole world.
Why not? Nothing to stop anyone.
OT:
Church In L.A. Has Gone To The Dogs
http://news.aol.com/article/los-angeles-church-starts-a-service-for/695090
Btw: what are your thoughts Netizens on the use of curse language on our main threads? Yea or Nay?
@ WrathofG-d:
What do you mean, Wrath?
@ WrathofG-d:
Wrath, I’ve been meaning to ask you about that avatar of yours. What is that supposed to be?
Eliana wrote:
To quote Savage from above: “Lou Dobbs on ‘Piece of Shit’ Bill…”.
Do the Netizens believe that using curse words in our main threads (ie: by the Admins) is appropriate and beneficial to our Blog. I’m personally against it, but I might just be a square.
@ Moe Katz:
OT– Moe, you gotta update your icon. Garfield’s feets are now longer than his body.
http://www.garfield.com/comics/todayscomic.html
@ Moe Katz:
Monty Python:
@ Moe Katz:
It’s the God-Pounder of Terry Gilliam.
@ IslandLibertarian:
My mother immigrated to America from Ireland in 1956.
She is a hard working, law abiding, tax paying LEGAL alien and went on to become a naturalized citizen. She’s a proud American and raised me to appreciate America.
And she gets very angry when discussing the current illegal alien situation. “What the hell is wrong with our leaders?”
@ WrathofG-d:
Limited profanity in context is okay. And masking it is a good idea.
Piece of Sh*t Amnesty Bill
Danrudy’s comment takes the cake: It’s not a piece of shit, it’s the whole outhouse. What can you say after that?
@ WrathofG-d:
“…. the piano struck up the hymn “GoD and DoG,” …”
Good grief.
@ Moe Katz:
Flush twice, it’s a long way to Iran.
“Oh for fuck’s sake.” –Mandy Manners on any given thread.
@ WrathofG-d:
There is nothing like a dog fight or a dog going after a cat to enliven a long and boring sermon!
I think that Goddess will agree that there are more suitable and expressive words which have more than four letters, which we would rather see Netizens use, especially when two or more of them go at it hammer and tongs. We must also accept that on the odd occasion it is natural to let off an f bomb but we hope that this happens on the odd occasion.
Is “Mandy Manners” meant to be an ironic name?
@ WrathofG-d:
Well, I see the humor, but from a Jewish viewpoint it could be seen as a bit risquée, coming as close as it does to violating the Second Commandment. I mean, if you’re going to write “G-d” and not “God” in your nic, do you really want to using humorous representations of the aforementioned deity as an avatar? No problem with me, man, but you might want to think that over.
@ Eliana:
Yes, like “Family Court”
Or, “Long Island Expressway”
@ wolfie:
Off Topic:
When it comes to religion, I think that watering it down, or using gimmicks cheapens it, and is disgusting. Religion is not a thing to be sold, but instead a worship, a way of life, a practice, a being.
On Topic:
The only reason I can think of for these types of amnesty plans is a larger desire to destroy borders in general. Just another step on the road to International community.
@ Moe Katz:
You bring up an interesting point and one I would have to think about deeper, but I didn’t make the image, and the image is not of G-d, but instead a character in a Monty Python movie. There is no question as to if I am using it or consider it an idol. This representation is no more of the actual G-d, then any other character in the Monty Python series.
@ WrathofG-d:
Yeah, I dunno. Maybe ask your rabbi.
@ BuddyG:
Same with my mother. And it makes her doubly angry when people against illegal immigration are called racist. (She really is a wise Latina!)
@ Moe Katz:
Yes it surely would make sense to get an opinion from a rabbi, but I could probably guess at what he would say – and that doesn’t mean I would agree.
Doesn’t hurt to ask though I guess.
@ WrathofG-d:
I mean, it is a kind of parody of Hashem and it appears over the word “G-d”. Your call, anyway.
@ WrathofG-d:
Amen to both statements.
I’m very modern, Wrath, but I’m just not used to any sort of religious iconography in Judaism, I find it jarring.
@ Moe Katz:
But that is the point. It isn’t a parody of Hashem. No one in their right mind would really consider that image to be of G-d, or a true imagine in His likeness. It is a character in a Monty Python skit. Furthermore, the 2nd Commandment centers around idol worship (in my opinion) and there is no question as to if I am using this image as an idol.
I know you are being intentionally provocative, but I’ll grant you that it is an interesting question that you bring up.
Orthodox Jews are modern, too, by the way.
@ Eliana:
What are your thoughts on “Moe Katz’s” statement?
@ WrathofG-d:
I’m fairly certain that a picture of W. R. Grace wearing a crown is not a form of blasphemy.
@ WrathofG-d:
As I just posted, I’m not just being provocative; it really makes me uncomfortable. If you’re going to write your nic “G-d” I don’t think you should fool around with images like that. But I’m not so observant, and anyway it’s your call.
@ WrathofG-d:
I think you’re right that the image is just from a skit.
G-d Himself isn’t limited by time or the physical world, so the idea that G-d might look like an actor in a Monte Python skit had never occurred to me.
I think you’re ok with the avatar if it’s what you want.
Wrath, jazz it up and enable animated avatars on the Blogmocracy.
@ BuddyG:
Ha, that is pretty good. Do animated avatars not work here?
OT,
I have not seen Vapig commenting for a while. Does anyone know if she is OK? I thought that she might come in for a quick gloat at the Virginia results and am a little worried at her silence. I hope everything is all right on her side.
@ Moe Katz:
Oh gawd. Getting tired of the “I’m holier that you” banter.
@ Bunk X:
I get a little tired of your incapacity to put two intelligent sentences together, but do I nag you about it?
@ African Moondog:
I hope so too.
I thought about her as we were discussing the VA results.
@ WrathofG-d:
I’ve always loved your avatar. And I got the joke the first time I saw it. My God has a sense of humor. I hope yours does too.
Now, about “The Castle Anthrax”………..
@ WrathofG-d:
I don’t think animated avatars work. At least they didn’t in the pre-upgrade LGF2 site.
Anyway, for the sake of diversity, check this out.
@ BuddyG:
PLEASE, NO! I can just imagine a whole bunch of those little gizmos moving and dancing. It’ll give me a seizure!
When I went to Gravatar, I tried to put an animated gif up.
It froze it.
@ wolfie:
Oh but the fun we could have mocking 1.0 !
@ BuddyG:
Did you notice in that that they use the golden blight on the Temple Mount as the representation for Islam?
@ Moe Katz:
Such as? I meant no offense, Moe, I just get tired of hearing the inane bickering.
@ WrathofG-d:
Is that the golden blight? Sheesh, mosques all kind of look the same to me.
@ WrathofG-d:
The best lines:
“Good idea, Oh Lord.”
“Of COURSE it’s a good idea.”
@ BuddyG:
Yup, that is it.
Anyway, I’m off soon, but sometimes around here I feel like Mickey.
@ BuddyG:
To be fair, some mosques are architectural and artistic masterpieces.
Is it a representation of God…. or a parodic representation of the representation of the “God” who appears as a stock character in grade B movies?
Here’s a question. Is representing God with Morgan Freeman in Bruce Almighty blasphemous? Would an avatar with him in that role be a representation of God?
@ African Moondog:
Yes, many mosques are aesthetically beautiful, but even so, they tend to look alike.
@ BuddyG:
@ African Moondog:
Yes. That is very true. But it isn’t the outside of the building that should bother you (if anything about it does).
BuddyG wrote:
RAAAAAAAAAAACIST!!!!
Hey Everyone
A very tired RAAAAAAACIST !!!!
@ BuddyG:
Cute!
Goodnight!
wolfie wrote:
What about the cloud in Exodus, or the Sistine Chapel, or…
@ wolfie:
Yes, it’s a parodic representation of an idea of God from popular culture and probably some Christian iconography. It would be interesting to show the icon and nic to a selection of rabbis and have their opinions on it.
@ BuddyG:
Goodnight, Buddy!
From the Huff Po,
“Barack Obama is a leader of great capacities and great contradictions. Perhaps the measure of his capacities is the magnitude of his contractions. He is a man of exceptional grace. But the grace misleads; this is a politician of intense ambition, discipline and grit. He understands and wields the power of the word. But his soaring oratory misleads, for his temperament is moderate; his predilection is for compromise. He rouses a new generation to politics, but prefers to cut the deals in the backrooms. He calls us to a new direction, then staffs his administration’s team with the acolytes of the old ideas he scorns.
One year is too soon to measure a president or assess an administration. Hell, this administration has less than half of its political appointees in place.”
Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-l-borosage/obamas-first-year-it-aint_b_346124.html&cp
Did not the dreadful Bush have all his appointees in place by the time he took office. The author of the piece is getting pwned in the comments sections.
@ Bunk X:
I don’t usually suffer fools as long as I’ve indulged you. No doubt some misguided moral improvement program I’ve been following.
WrathofG-d wrote:
What does bother me about the buildings are the words spoken inside them.
@ Moe Katz:
I’m honored. =)
@ Bunk X:
And rightly so!
@ Moe Katz:
Have another bourbon. That’ll lighten you up a tad.
Goodnight everyone. As Brahms once said leaving a party, if there’s anyone here I haven’t offended, I apologize.
@ African Moondog:
They used to call that duplicitous, misleading, or lying.
@ African Moondog:
Since we are talking architecture, it is interesting to see the moorish impact on Italian and Spanish buildings. There is also much about a Mosque that is taken from religious Christian buildings (ie: the mineret)
@ African Moondog:
What does bother me about the
buildingsammunition dumps are the words spoken inside them.Fixed.
Well, it’s an interesting question.
Knowing the origin of the avatar, I always took it to be a comic and subtle way of saying, “Despite my nic, I am not really God’s wrath, you know. I myself am no more the Scourge of the Unrighteous than this goofy fellow from Monty Python.”
@ Moe Katz:
Apology accepted!
@ Moe Katz:
Gahnite, Moe.
@ wolfie:
I mean, there’s nothing in the Second Commandment as I read it that exempts parodies or distinguishes them from other representations. But I’m not a rabbi.
@ wolfie:
{Wolfie}
@ Moe Katz:
You bring up an interesting question. I’ll give you that. But since we are on the topic, maybe we should talk about our violations of the 612 other Commandments, and why it is only this one that bothers you so much.
?
@ Bunk X:
Bunk, I’m really serious that I’m going to be giving out more of those 15 yard piling on penalties!
Night,
Moe
@ Bunk X:
Bunk, you’re a good guy!
The flu can make people grumpy.
@ African Moondog:
His predilection is for compromise?
And as for the people he appointed to his cabinet, aren’t many of them—except for fellow radicals like Holder— window dressing? What about all the radical Czars?
Yikes!
@ WrathofG-d:
I’m really being honest with you. It makes me uncomfortable. I’m just so unused to seeing any sort of religious iconography in a Jewish context, even humorously. I’m not telling you what to do, though, just bringing it to your attention and suggesting you maybe get a rabbinical opinion if that matters to you.
So that’s all. I find it jarring.
Be well, Moe
@ WrathofG-d:
Yes, the Hagia Sophia in Instanbul being a good example. I wonder where the domes come from. Are they a Jewish feature ot were they inspired by old Hindu temples as they do not feature in the older African mosques such as those at Timbuktu. Basically a feature of a House of G-d, (and it does not matter which religion we are talking about), is beauty, magnificence and attention to detail. They were erected with love and reverence, which belies the hate filled sentiments uttered in some of them.
@ Bunk X:
Holy carp. I just learned about the Spinel Twin Law.
Hey! I could go on 1.0 and present myself as an expert in geology!!!
Eliana, do you like the Pirke Avot?
@ Moe Katz:
I would hardly call using a character from Monty Python “religious Iconography”, but I know that is your argument.
My question was however; “why does this 1 possible violation of the 613 Commandments bother you when you are more than happy to ignore the other 612?
@ Eliana:
Heh. Moe likes to yank chains just to get a reaction. He’s a harmless troll IMO. It’s a fun game to play, and I do it too, occasionally.
@ Moe Katz:
I’d like to hear rabbis discuss the relative merits of teaching school children to chant the name of the Great Leader.
Better yet, I’d like to know what in the name of all that is holy is wrong with people who aren’t repulsed at the sight of children being indoctrinated in to a personality cult.
@ wolfie:
List me as a reference! I’ll back up whatever you tell ‘em.
@ WrathofG-d:
You have no idea to what extent I practice the other 613, nor do I know of your observance. That is beneath you.
@ African Moondog:
The domes are of (pre-Christian)Roman origin. There are still some domed Roman temples in the Mediterranean world, I believe, though none quite as impressive or well-preserved as the Pantheon.
@ Crusader Rabbit:
Pretty far off topic, but sure, fine.
@ Moe Katz:
Yeah. Moe’s right. Just what are you sitting on, Wrath?
@ Bunk X:
The truly sad thing is that we could get away with it! No sweat!
@ Moe Katz:
Finally, the true “Moe Katz” comes out. I knew it was inevitable. It usually happens when you are asked to defend your claims and “opions” with something other than “claims and opinions”.
But, to answer your question; I do know because our discussions about religion started on a similar conversation where you criticized Orthodoxy (all of it, and without provocation), and stated your observance (and your complete disgust for “orthodox” observance)
So why don’t you swear (although you could lie) that you follow the 613, or even the 10. Tell me honestly that you even keep Shabbat or keep Kosher and I will give you some leeway.
You don’t have to do any of the above (before you claim me of making an “i’m a better Jew than you argument”, which I am not) but in that case I repeat my initial question about why this one possible violation of one of the 613 Commandments bothers you so much when you don’t care about the other 612.
@ Moe Katz:
Off topic?
You can’t be serious.
@ wolfie:
It would be fun to draw some lizards into the discussion, while getting progressively more absurd. Too easy.
@ Moe Katz:
Btw: I would like to get off the computer soon, so if you are going to respond, and to quote Monty Python – “get on with it”.
Can we have an occasional “Just for the Goyim” post?
Goodnight, folks!
My computer wants to reboot due to some Windows Updates and my eyes want to close.
Take care!
@ Bunk X:
I imagine that is a joke, but why a “just for”?
here this is for you then:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra7_60iwpk8
this is for the Creationists of all stripes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gZbMOq_Ge8&feature=related
and this is for the Evolutionists:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O29thCzF6BI&feature=fvw
@ Eliana:
Later Eliana. Back up your files just in case.
@ WrathofG-d:
It was pure sarcasm, Wrath. Just laughing about all the perceived offenses.
@ Bunk X:
Oh, ok, I figured.
Well, I guess I’m not getting a response re: my question to Moe, and I’ve got better things to do.
Keep it real y’all.
oh wait, one last thing.
Wrath, get off my blog!
later
@ WrathofG-d:
Just run it by a rabbi and see what he says, Wrath. My relationship with Judaism is my own, just as yours is your own.
@ WrathofG-d:
Play him off, keyboard cat!
Bunk X wrote:
Having seen the way the Hebraic netizens launch themselves into each other, this little goy boy fails to see how that is possible.
@ WrathofG-d:
“But, to answer your question; I do know because our discussions about religion started on a similar conversation where you criticized Orthodoxy (all of it, and without provocation), and stated your observance (and your complete disgust for “orthodox” observance)”
I don’t remember saying anything like that. I belong to the Orthodox synagogue here. I don’t like narrow, right wing, militant Orthodox Jews. That ain’t my style. But sometimes I pray next to some.
@ African Moondog:
Did you just call me a Presbyterian?
@ Bunk X:
Oh, he didn’t say it outright, but yeah, he did. We all knew what he really meant.
@ wolfie:
Yep, we heared it loud and clear:
“We no want no goyim here!”
Too many folks have Chips, Ernies and Robbies on their shoulders, and they’re just waiting for Uncle Charlie to come along to knock them off.
All for sarc, and sarc for all.
I’m outta here. G’night.
@ BuddyG:
….My mother immigrated to America from Ireland in 1956.
She is a hard working, law abiding, tax paying LEGAL alien and went on to become a naturalized citizen. She’s a proud American and raised me to appreciate America.
And she gets very angry when discussing the current illegal alien situation. “What the hell is wrong with our leaders?”….
Well there is your problem right there Madam ….
These individuals are NOT leaders …. they are sell out traitors with a well developed eye for the main chance. Corrupt, narcissistic and venial to a man … and woman.
Morning everybody.
Good morning, y’all!
{Rightside}
@ goddessoftheclassroom:
{goddess} hopes you are well.
Wow, I didn’t have a chance to say much this morning! Take care, y’all!
Good mporning all.
@ RIX:RIX wrote:
Ooops, morning
RIX wrote:
Good Morning Rix although mporning sounds like a whole lot more fun.
Good morning…
@ doriangrey:
Morning Dorian, why are music reviewers so bitchy?
@ African Moondog:
Because they cant play anything but the damned stereo…
Back everybody
@ Rightside:
Morning Rightside… Coffee?? Careful I seem to have made it a tad bit strong this morning, and if you remember how I usually make my coffee, that is a warning to be taken seriously…
@ doriangrey:
Morning dorian, sure I’ll take a cup.
@ Rightside:
<— puts on Kevlar gloves and passes rightside a cup of coffee…
doriangrey wrote:
That makes sense, the green eyed monster rears itself in so many ways.
mornin folks…//I hear the coffee is great at the gulag.
African Moondog wrote:
ROTFLMAO… If you’ve read the comment section over at my MP3 site you’ll know I have had my fair share of scathing reviews. opp’s, did I say scathing? I meant dripping pure poison reviews… lol…lol…lol…
Hi there, too late to mooch a cuppa?
@ vagabond trader:
<— Puts Kevlar gloves back on and passes vagabond trader cup of coffee… It;s a tad bit strong this morning… dear….
ok, i got the baileys pass the coffee
is there an article available that this thread is all about? i don’t see one
Oh and just for vagabond trader…
“Good Lord! Cat Juggling!!!”
@ apachegunner:
<— Passes coffee cup to Gunner…
@ doriangrey:
lol,a former night shift nurse here, we likes our java strong darlin’! Thank you!
@ doriangrey:
Not nice!!!!
***giggle***
To those concerned no real kittehs were harmed in this bit of silliness. I hope.
wolfie wrote:
My neighbor is trying to get her sister and brother into the USA legally. The government is working on applications from 2000. She managed to get her applications (filed in 2003) considered because her family is in danger from mussulman murders. Understand, they aren’t getting in yet, but their application is being considered for consideration.
@ vagabond trader:
lol…my wife has worked third shift for 23 years and likes it
mawskrat wrote:
You, of course, work First shift, I hope that doesn’t explain why she loves Third shift… lol…lol…lol…
now the Saudi’s know how to treat a paedophile.
Saudi paedophile to be beheaded
A Saudi court has ruled that a man convicted of raping five children will be beheaded and crucified.
Muhammad Basheer al-Ramaly, 22, left his youngest victim, aged three, stranded in the desert to die.
He was caught when he tried to abduct another boy by offering him a lift home from school in his car.
The court of appeal in Riyadh approved the death sentence handed down in June. Beheading is permitted for serious offences in the conservative kingdom.
More than 40 people have been executed in such a fashion this year.
Reports suggest Ramaly lured children into his car near their school, near the town of Hail, and took them to isolated areas to rape them.
Human rights group Amnesty International has criticized the court proceedings saying Ramaly did not have access to a lawyer during his trial and that there are reports he may suffer from a psychological disorder.
International rights advocates have long been critical of the death sentences in Saudi Arabia, but the authorities defend the practice as a quick and clean form of execution sanctioned by the Islamic faith.
Crucifixion means the body will be attached to wooden beams and displayed in public after the beheading.
@ mawskrat:
Very rugged on the body,more power to her! People used to think I worked third because after all patients sleep all night,light duty.Actually it was to have a bit more autonomy, no supervisors and even the Docs are more pliable at night. Oh wait, let me rephrase that…..
bwhahahahahaha!
@ vagabond trader:
Sooo, what exactly were you plying the Doctors with at night… Inquiring minds want to know…
mawskrat wrote:
I am not so sure that i agree with the crucifixion bit but I seriously am have trouble trying to work up some sympathy for the POS
@ African Moondog:
ROTFLMAO… Their only doing that to prevent a new religion from taking over the Arabian Peninsula. (I mean, after all, their last Prophet was also a murdering Pedophile)
hey all,
we have a new hitler in the bunker vid….funny as hell
httpv://www.liveleak.com/view?i=28f_1257405587
lets try again
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=28f_1257405587
things that make you go eewwww…..
Health Reform and Fetus Farming
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/199470.php
Therefore, by just connecting dots, it’s not inconceivable for taxpayer-funded abortions to become the source of fetuses for use as raw materials in the making of retail products. All the legislative doors seem to be prepped for opening
@ rain of lead:
ROTFLMAO… Sweet… Now if somebody could just get Obummer, the Liar and thief to watch it…
doriangrey wrote:
yeah, like that is gonna happen
Since there is no “open thread” to put my links here some OT climate links:
Climate: G77 takes on West
NEW DELHI: The Barcelona talks on climate change saw further fireworks with the chairperson of one of the two parallel tracks of the negotiations coming under fire from G77 countries, including India, for directing the process away from the ambit of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change and the Bali Action Plan, which differentiates between rich countries and the rest.
The Indian delegation warned that the proposals being made by the chairperson and industrialised countries did away with distinctions between developed and developing countries and imposed new commitments on developing countries.
India also strongly disagreed with US on the suggestion that areas of disagreement on crucial issues of a long-term agreement on climate change be sent to respective ministers to decide. India pointed out that it was not mere divergence of viewpoints but the fact that US and others were asking for a deal which fell out of the rules of the UN convention.
Even as the African countries on Tuesday night accepted a temporary truce on the Kyoto Protocol track of negotiations, the G77 and China grouping led a powerful counter offensive against the attempt to hoist a greenhouse gas emission reduction regime on developing countries similar to the one right now in place for industrialised countries.
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Russia Still Dragging Its Feet on Climate Change
Russia doesn’t seem to care two bits about global warming, and it’s not hard to see why. Most Russians would probably be happy if the country was a little warmer. Officials even joke that once climate change has run its course, people may start pouring into Siberia instead of trying to escape it. If the polar ice caps melt any further, Russia would be able to drill for oil and gas in the Arctic Ocean, where it’s believed to have huge fossil-fuel reserves. For the rest of the planet, however, the picture is not so cheerful.
To say that Russia is hesitant about tackling climate change is putting it mildly. The last time the world tried to get the country’s cooperation on the issue was in 1997, during negotiations for the Kyoto Protocol (the international treaty on limiting greenhouse-gas emissions). Because Russia is the world’s third largest source of emissions after the U.S. and China, the accord would have failed without it. So the treaty was written in a way that would allow Russia to keep polluting as much as it wanted and grant the country billions of dollars in emissions allowances to sell to other countries that needed to meet their Kyoto commitments. (Read about getting air traffic under control.)
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Horse: the menace that no one tackles
@snork??!! – snoooooooorrrrkeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
– a must read for you:
Promises, Promises
Ill-judged predictions and projections can be embarrassing at best and, at worst, damaging to the authority of science and science policy.
last but not least: Saying of today
@ mawskrat:
No shit he’s got a “psychological disorder”. The motherfucker rapes children. I think I could go for the crucifixion without beheading him first. Hang him out for the birds to eat, alive, so he can enjoy the proceedings.
The Left’s love for child rapists (see all the defenses of Roman Polanski) is the most revolting aspect to them. True evil, and that is no joke.
@ rain of lead:
True… But just use your imagination and consider how he would react to watching it… He would be ranting about Racists worse then Der Fuhrer in the Bunker…
@ Iron Fist:
Oh come on, give the guy a break, he’s just trying to follow The Prophet Mohammad’s example… (Pig Piss be Upon Him)
@ Moe Katz:
You appear to have a problem playing with others…is this going to be a nightly drama for you?
doriangrey wrote:
yeah, that’s true… not enough duct tape in the world to keep his head from exploding.
work calls…later ya’ll
rain of lead wrote:
What is the situation in other nations where abortion is legal. What do they do with those remains? Has anyone ever asked that question. I was informed the other day that anti-wrinkle manufacturers were major purchasers of the detritus of infant circumcisions. Perhaps that is why Pelosi is such a prick. However the thought of a baby being killed to feed an industry makes my blood run cold.
Anybody catch the first episiode of V, about Space Aliens coming here with happy talk?
The Chicago TV critic after an advance viewing called it an allegory for the Obama Administration. I know that this is a redo of an 80′s series, but they may have updated it & the crtic may be right.
1. The Aliens are offering us “Universal Healtcare”
2. One Earthling says “They give us hope”
3.The Alien Leader demands only questions that do not frame them
in a negatuiive light or no interview
4. They work hard at juvinile indoctrination.
5. An in the tank journalist chastises others for not being respectful.
@ RIX:
I watched the V movies on syfy last Sunday, the Nazi theme was very clear.
Well NJ finally elected a Republican again and the Yankees are Champions again. All is right in the World.
IDF won’t used seizes arms, except for research
Personally I’d give them back. Ya know Air Mail them. If ya get my meaning?
Nevergiveup wrote:
baseball berry berry boring to me, but congrats anyway
@ RIX:
yep. Its amazing how much influence television has on the general public. I bet 90% of people watching don’t know they are being indoctrinated.
Good morning everyone!
@ danrudy:
I would include the septic tank associated with said outhouse. That’s how large a pile of manure that this bill is.
I posted the Lou Dobbs vid to my FB page.
mawskrat wrote:
Yeah,I heard that about the original Series. If I wasn’t so cynical about Hollywood I would think that the new one is slamming BHO. As it is I’m not sure, but it does seem like it.
@ bellamags:
I would like to hear an opinion of V from someone else who watched.
They did school chidren praising the Aliens in song.
Someone said yesterday taht they went into production before BHO was even sworn in, but it does seem weirdly familiar.
@ bellamags:
I asked the administrtators to email you my email so we can link on FB
@ RIX:
I thought it was a remake. Is it a total remake or a new story?
OT,
Some more good news from the recent election. Gun rights won nearly everywhere. In NY-23 it wasn’t even in doubt, as everyone was NRA A rated (although that isn’t necessarily definitive; the NRA supported Jack Brooks in Texas after he voted for the “Assault Weapons” ban. Brooks was definately vulnerable, had the NRA wanted to make it an issue. He lost despite their endorsement). This is an area where the Republicans are stepping on their dick, bit time. Second Amendment rights are a winning position almost everywhere in the country now. Being vocal and leading the fight in gaining back what has already been lost would be a politically smart thing for the Republicans to do. Even if the Democrats try to say “me, too” on the issue, the Republican would be seen as the leader. that isn’t going to hurt them, really, at all. Any place where being pro-Second Amendment is going to hurt them, the Republicans don’t stand a chance anyway. Not unless they run a Super-RINO like Bloomberg. It is hard to count that as a victory for the Republican Party.
@ Nevergiveup:
Give them to me. I promise I won’t use them to kill any Israelis
@ Nevergiveup:
cool. what if we are already friends? twilight zone thingy.
Iron Fist wrote:
Well we should run on that: A car in every garage and a katusha in every back yard!
@ RIX:
now that i know this, i will watch. when is it on and what channel?
Mornin’ everybody!
Drudge is reporting that Climate Bill passed a Senate panel over opposition.
And I think the V thing is a pretty total redo on ABC.
RIX wrote:
They could have just been copying the Hitler indoctrination.
@ Nevergiveup:
from a military standpoint, katushas are pretty worthless. They don’t have any degree of accuracy. The concept of accuracy isn’t built into them. They are terrorist weapons, pure and simple. That wasn’t what i was really talking about. I’d take any AK-47s, RPDs, or, if I’m lucky, a PKM.
They are making a semi-automatic PKM now. It runs between $6000-7000, but damn what a cool toy to own
Nevergiveup wrote:
The TV crtic in the Chicago Tribune did not say.
One thing though , they deal with current events like the recession, so to me it seems like the same premise, but updated for now.
RIX wrote:
So ya mean they are gonna blame it on Bush?
@ Iron Fist:
Their main military use is psychops. They make a fearful screech, like that of a car braking which gets louder and louder which ends in a god almighty bang. It could cause panic amongst untrained troops and civilians. However, if they hold fast they get used to them pretty damn quick. I think the Israelis are used to them.
@ Nevergiveup:
So ya mean they are gonna blame it on Bush?
To tell you the truth, it looks like a smack down of Obama.
You would think that I would no better.
I just looked over at the other place. I think the trainwreck is over and the slide to irrelevancy has begun.
@ RIX:
Of course they are gonna blame it on Bush. No matter what it is, blame Bush.
Republican bill….based on Capitalism…will work!
http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.com/2009/11/republican-billbased-on-capitalismworks.html
@ The Osprey:
You know, I haven’t had the time or inclination to really look over there for a week or so. I did gather that Charles was all happy-happy joy-joy over Hoffman losing, but typically ignorant of any of the real significance of what happened there. What are they discussing today? KKKilgore burn some more virtual crosses to show how”racist” his opponents are?
Good morning all!
The reason the dems and their stenographers are so upset about V is because it shows them for who they really are. Perhaps the V’s that try to help the humans will come to represent the ‘Blue Dogs’, if they stand up and defeat this p.o.s. healthcare debacle as well as the climate change bill.
African Moondog wrote:
Maybe down the road, but right now it looks like a slam on BHO.
Remember when 24 was free of political correctness?
Now it almost seems like Jack Baur is a pro-Moslem social worker.
Iron Fist wrote:
IF, it seems that according to Charles all the other results were so irrelevant that they were not even worth mentioning. The Osprey sent me there, one vid after another mixed with posts about Hoffman’s loss.
@ Iron Fist:
Pretty much the same thing, Iron, with an egregious slam of Michelle Bachmann added to the mix.
Nothing you couldn’t find at Puffington Host or Kosograd.
The Osprey wrote:
But in defense of Kos and Huff… they can be entertaining sometimes, not so much the hippie anymore
@ bellamags:
I was a huge fan of the original in the 1980′s – Jane Badler was a most delicious villainess.
Since they scripted before the election and filmed after, I think homage to Kenneth Johnson’s original “V” allegory to Nazism was what they were actually intending – unfortunately, the progress of this current administration is a little too shockingly similar.
All in all, I thought it was okay – except that the reveal of the Visitors’ true nature was a little too quick. There will be five episodes then the show will go on hiatus until after the holidays.
I have heard one rumor, for what it’s worth, that the “Administration” is not very happy about it and demanded that one of the “runners” be changed, and ABC complied.
The Osprey wrote:
all they do is hang out and hope for a banning
The Osprey wrote:
Except that Puff Ho and Kosograd have less videos and more meaty topics. Still Charles is a one man band and when the people who supplied him with info end up banned, he has to scratch around for stuff to post. But even the comments are boring, which they never were.
mawskrat wrote:
There is really no one left to ban. Most conservatives have been banned or left and those that are still there have been castrated and are scared of their own shadows.
@ Nevergiveup:
Speaking of Michelle Bachman, has anyone seen any video or heard any news as to the gathering on the Capitol steps today – on Mark Levin’s show for the past two days, people have been calling to say they’re boarding buses and planes to get themselves to D.C. for the anti-health care “TEA” party at the Capitol – after which they are going to enter the building to try and see their Congressman.
I expect to see several things today: (1) a crowd of 10,000 or more; (2) Nazi Pelousy deny access to the Capitol building to them, calling them a “mob” of “astroturfing racists”; (3) the MSM to ignore it completely; and (4) Congress critters to run out the back door or lock their office doors to the people whose votes they’ll be seeking a year from now.
Oh, and I look to the moron who runs 1.0 to call it a gathering of Ron Paulian birthers who believe in God and therefore don’t have a clue.
@ African Moondog:
Yeah, his posts are pretty stale. Stuff on the jihad he used to post right away will now show up on Atlas and JihadWatch and he will MAYBE get to posting it a week later.
Actually a lot of jihad news goes completely ignored or even denigrated over there these days (Rifqa).
@ African Moondog:
Heh™ I bet Corzine thinks all the other races were irrelevant, too. Did you see my earlier post about NY-23? It appears that all the candidates involved ranked as pro-Second Amendment. That surprised me. Don’t get me wrong, I wish Hoffman had won, but if he had to lose, then I’d prefer a pro-Second Amendment Democrat to an anti-Second Amendment Democrat. Ultimately, I’d like to see gun control become as irrelevant as seggregation (and as universally despised as seggregation). I don’t expect to see that in my lifetime, though.
@ The Osprey:
Lovely. He does seem to have a hate on for Michelle Bachman. Maybe he made a pass at her and she shot him down
Despite my personal grievances, I almost feel sorry for Charles. He had something really good going and he’s rammed it into the ground for no rational reason that I can see. ah, well. It is what it is. things here are looking up. we’ve got a much slicker site in visual terms, and we don’t need all the ajax geegaws that carry such a monsterous overhead with them.
Nevergiveup wrote:
Last night they were using cj’s photo as a an ink blot test.
They were all describing what they were seeing in the tree reflected in the water.
Even I am getting bored going over there.
@ Carolina Girl:
Yep. I’m with you on that one.
@ typicalwhitey:
“Even I am getting bored going over there.”
That’s how I feel. I am going there less and less to watch.
typicalwhitey wrote:
Killgore Trout sees a bong
Ludwig von Quacksalot sees the global warming “hockey stick” graph
Hoosier Hoops sees a basketball
Iceweasel sees Jimmah
Jimmah sees Iceweasel
Charles sees tea party racists! And Vlaams Belaang! And Celtic Crosses! And the Ron Paul blimp! Arrrrrgh!
@ Carolina Girl:
I am listening to WMAL (Washington conservative radio) right now. People have been calling who are traveling to here today. There are coming in from all over the states.
Will keep you guys posted as best I can.
@ Iron Fist:
Someone tell that to our gubernatorial candidates–and the ones running for the Assembly and Senate–that we want that stupid ammo bill repealed.
The Osprey wrote:
@ Nevergiveup:
I don’t even bother. I left and refuse to look back.
@ The Osprey:
And the rest of the world just sees amateur photography.
But to Lizards – Chazzie is the new Ansel Adams.
@ Carolina Girl:
I hope you are right about the numbers. That would be excellent. Coming on the heels of the election like that, it really might kill off Obamacare. You know the Blue Dog Democrats have to be nervous after Tuesday. There ain’t any of them eager to get sent home.
@ Carolina Girl:
Gerard Van der Leun’s takedown of Chuckie’s photography is a classic:
http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/bad_americans/the_eternal_banality_of_t.php
@ Iron Fist:
If they don’t want to be sent home, I’d suggest they change their party affiliation. The big thing next year is going to be to change the MAJORITY party in Congress to get Pelousy and Reid out of there. Being a Blue Dog won’t cut it, even if you’re a Democrat – because a Dem winning the seat keeps Pelousy in power.
Of course, they could see the writing on the wall and tell Nazi behind closed doors that she needs to step down, that the country hates her and every time she opens her mouth she’s an embarrassment to the Party. But since when do Donks admit mistakes.
The BIGGEST mistake Nazi could do today is deny access to the Capitol Building to the TEA party people looking to talk to their Congress critter. So of course, she’ll do just that – the woman is a moron.
Damn, that is a “Piece of shit bill.” I guess the only way to get around it is to go to Mexico, apply for citizenship there and then run back across the Rio Grande to all the fabulous rewards and benefits that Americans don’t get but must pay for.
Elderly American citizens, in particular, are looking at all their hard work slip through their fingers. They will be the first to suffer as illegals siphon off first rights to Health Care and Welfare (food stamps, college money, tax benefits when they have never paid taxes.)
Libs see these illegals as future voters to keep them in power.
They are buying them with our money.
Carolina Girl wrote:
I don’t like Ron Paul, but I long ago got tired of watching some people jump up and down on the RonPauline.
Hey everyone!!
chickadee wrote:
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Wrath – I notice upthread you were asking about using profanity in the thread titles. I’m not a “prude” by any means, and in most cases I would say no, but this seemed appropriate to the subject matter, etc. Sort of like nudity in movies, if you get my drift.
@ calcajun:
KKKalifornia is a lost cause. You all passed the ammo ban after the 9th Circuit ruled that Heller applied to the State. Surely someone will sue, and unless the Supreme Court surprises us next June, the ammo ban will be thrown out in due course. This should be a reletively inexpensive lesson for you all. It makes sense to have a reasonable supply of ammo on hand for all your weapons (not that any of y’all have weapons, but, you know, as if). It requires a bit of overhead expenditure to get the initial stock, but then all you have to do is replace it as you use it.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
While I like Paul’s fiscal conservatism, I’m sure I can find the same principles in someone else without having to deal with his “it’s America’s fault” foreign policy and 9/11 conspiracy beliefs.
@ Carolina Girl:
All this fuckin’ profanity is pissin’ me the fuck off. All you motherfuckers need to clean your goddamn language up…
Pelosi is trying to get a vote on Saturday:
Call your Congressman!
@ Iron Fist:
Fist, it’s not so much an ammo “ban” per se, as it is an infringement on the freedom to buy it. You can buy all the ammo you want in California – however, you will need to be fingerprinted when you do so (we have always had to show ID for any purchases other than shotgun shells). Additionally, it bans sales of ammunition over the internet, in direct contravention of federal interstate commerce laws. I think the law will be struck down in federal court on the internet sales section (which is fine with me, since that’s how we’re able to get most of our ammunition these days).
Of course, me and Flyboy are just going to go for a nice Saturday drive to Nevada to Cabellas and grab what we can when we run low.
CJ is very simple…he needs a bogeyman…it started with Muslims, then went to Dan Rather, then Hamas…now, he has turned and he demonizes Beck, Rush, Ron Paul, Tea Parties and other various people that he sees at neo-nazis. All it takes is one comment by someone that fits his paranoid beliefs and he turns on them…ranting for weeks in his posts.
I noticed a few weeks back someone was asking him, and the other lizards, what pundits they liked or who they read. Not one answer other than “go read for yourself”. It struck me that CJ would never answer that question because someday he might want to turn on that person and wouldn’t want to be on record as supporting or liking them.
I know there was at least one post a few years back where CJ’s nipples got all hard because Rush had mentioned him on his radio show…guess it was okay to look past his “racist” statements back then…
Even a five-point swing in 2010 could bring a tidal wave of change
Carolina Girl wrote:
chuck takes pictures…Ansel Adams created photographs
HAHAHAH!
Watch to the end!
Watch Mathews face!!
@ typicalwhitey:
that is to be hoped for, but we are going to have to work for it. And even after it happens, we need to be holding the Republican’s feet to the fire on the issues that are important: fiscal responsibility, low taxes, small government. It should be noted that even after the sweep in 1994 the Republicans didn’t care to or couldn’t muster the votes to repeal the “Assault Weapons” ban. That is unacceptible. And that is something that has me really concerned. Suppose we do sweep it next year. The democrats could call a lame duck session and pass all kinds of shit legislation. would the Republicans have the balls to repeal it? History suggests not.
The Republicans have not been particularly good stewards of the public trust. It is just that, by comparison to the Democrats, they become acceptable to the alternative.
@ chickadee:
Makes you want to smack your parents for giving birth to you here as opposed to Mexico.
@ Iron Fist:
New Jersey and Virginia should speak loud and clear:
Fiscal Responsibility will win.
Lower taxes will win.
All they have to do is run against the policies that are killing the country fiscally and they will win.
BUT>>>>>>>>>They must govern on what they ran on and not change once they get elected.
Pretty simple but a lot of politicians don’t do it!
@ typicalwhitey:
What a putz.
I absolutely hate that style of “journalism”. Hannity does the same thing too and I can’t stand watching him.
@ Iron Fist:
They squandered the majority they achieved in the 90′s by turning into RINO’s and tax and spenders as much as the Donks did. They should have told Bush flat out NO on amnesty. And when the Donks came to them with that “let’s share the power – in ‘fairness’” they should have given them their marching orders.
One can only hope that this will be a lesson learned by them in next year’s election. First, run as conservatives; second, when/if you win the majority and the Donks come with their “share” plan, tell them you remember 2006-2010 and no way in hell; and third, vote NO, NO, a thousand times NO on any amnesty, new taxes, bailouts and stimulus.
David Harmer got 45% of the vote in the California 10th special election. That is saying a LOT for this district, which went over 60% for the big Zero in 2008.
Yesterday Rush was talking about Andy Spano getting trounced in Blue Westchester County in N.Y. by Republican Rob Asterino who hosts the Catholic Channel and interviews the Cardinal once a week.
Fck the MSM and the libs who say we are going to lose because of social issues. The religious Republican won by 16% over a long time Dem. incumbent. I wonder if CJ has addressed this.
The latest caller travelling in from Florida said that busloads are coming in from Florida and that other individuals are travelling by train to DC.
They are expecting several thousand to be a the Capitol today.
Nevergiveup wrote:
THey seem to all get real excited when they think that there might be a banning. It is almost orgasmic when it actually happens.
They don’t seem to realise that surviving there is not a badge of honor.
it just means that you are sucking up approrpriately.
@ typicalwhitey:
Everyone expected that all along. After all the loud cacophony of the mangling of steel, followed by the quiet hissing of steam, the place would quietly pass into the night.
Cherry picking is getting to be fruitless. They’re not worth the climb any more. We don’t need a “no discussing 1.0″ rule here, as you say, and as I predicted, it’ll eventually take care of itself.
Reminds me of the Cal Coolidge quote, something like “nine out of ten problems headed down the road at you will end up in the ditch before they get to you”.
Self-correcting systems do work.
S the Elder wrote:
Ewwwww. The South Park language doesn’t bother me, but there needs to be a rule about such brain bleach imagery.
@ snork:
So true!
@ Iron Fist:
QC*
The R’s won by default in all these cases. That’s not a plan for success, that’s manna from heaven. Probably the biggest disappointment in all of this is that the R’s that did win weren’t all that great.
No time for gloating. Time to evaluate the real choices, and get behind the non-chameleon fiscal conservatives. They’re the ones who are going to win and hang on to the win.
It’s the economy, stupid. Nobody cares about anything else. Period.
________
*Quite Concur…
calcajun wrote:
It really is twisted what the left is doing. This kind of insidious overreaching will eventually meet a brick wall. Just imagine, for example, how citizens are going to feel when they realize that they can’t afford to send their own children to college because they have to pay for the college education of illegals, instead.
@ typicalwhitey:
Matthews genuinely got upset, and I loved it. People need to start calling these kinds of “journalists” out.
Did you notice what he said?
“I make my living off of people like you.”
That was pretty telling to me.
chickadee wrote:
It is at the point now, that the difference between the progressive tax scale with its refunds to people who don’t even pay in, and a flat tax on all wage owners; is the difference between me being able to send my children to a public university or a fair private one, and a first tier private school.
This has hacked me off since I did the finacial planning and cost projections before the arrival of my first born in ’03.
I am spending 25k+ for other peoples stuff. My fair share.
Me, a son a subsistance farmer’s son, who joined the Navy at seventeen and made something of himself and passed his values on to his sons. This is my reward for two generations of struggle to achieve social mobility, being a cash cow for the Jerry Springer Nation
mawskrat wrote:
I think you got that reversed. Ansel created pictures that were works of art. Anything else is just photography. Heck, even I am learning that. And I have taken better pictures then CJ with a crappy point and shoot. Of course I have upgraded recently and it does wonders.