This is simply unbelievable!
Dennis Ross used to have this position, until he left to go to the National Security Council. In any case, John Limbert will be the head Iran official in the U.S. State Department.
And who is Mr. Limbert? Laura Rozen at Politico has some insights:
A former ambassador to Mauritania who speaks fluent Farsi, Limbert retired from a 33-year career with the Foreign Service in 2006 with the rank of Minister-Counselor. He is the recipient of the Department’s highest award, the Distinguished Service Award, as well as an Award for Valor for his more than a year as a hostage in Iran, months of it spent in solitary confinement. He has been teaching at the U.S. Naval Academy since 2006, and also served as president of the American Foreign Service Assocation (2003-2005). This year, he published a book through the US Institute of Peace, Negotiating with Tehran: Wrestling with the Ghosts of History — a subject that will come in handy in his new role in the Obama administration. (Here’s the Cliff Notes version.)
He spoke Wednesday at an event at the National Iranian American Council, of which he is on the advisory board, on the thirtieth anniversary of the hostage crisis, and was said to have had an unpublicized ceremony marking his new appointment at State on Thursday.
“He’s a wonderful choice, one of the most decent people I know and someone who has the best interests of the United States and Iran in mind,” said the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace’s Karim Sadjadpour.
Let me break more of this down for you all, because it might be a bit hard to fully understand…
What we know thus far is this:
- Mr. Limbert spoke at and is on the board of the National Iranian American Council.
- Mr. Limbert was published by and affiliated with the US Institute of Peace.
- Mr. Limbert is being praised by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace’s Karim Sadjadpour.
- Mr. Sadjadpour apparently believes that Mr. Limbert has the best interests “of the United States and Iran in mind.”
So let’s parse through this information, shall we?
First of all, our old friends, the National Iranian American Council (NIAC)! You may remember them from my posts about J Street, that progressive “pro-Israel, pro-peace” organization (which in reality is an anti-peace and anti-Israel organization). I wrote about Trita Parsi speaking at J Street, and how interesting it was that an Iranian lobbyist was speaking at J Street. Mr. Parsi is in fact in charge of NIAC. Here is a refresher link to re-introduce who Trita Parsi is, and how he is an official lobbyist for the Iranian regime. Yes – just so you did not get whiplash, NIAC and J Street are in fact connected!
So, just so we are fully understanding, that means that Mr. Limbert is on the Board of Directors of an organization, NIAC, that is an official lobbyist for the Iranian regime.
Now let’s go to the second link – the U.S. Institute of Peace. This sounds like a fabulous organization! Who doesn’t like peace? Yet check out this Daniel Pipes link, about how the U.S. Institute of Peace has been linked with Kamran Bohkari, a member of the Al-Muhajiroun (yes, a jihadist), that celebrated the “Magnificent 19″ hijackers. This same “institute” also funds pro-Hamas propaganda. (see IPT story here) This “institute” also was heavily involved in the Iraq Study Group, which called for selling Israel down the river in exchange for “PEACE, peace in our time!”
Mr. Limbert is involved with this “peace institute,” which he publishes his books through.
And now let’s examine the other source mentioned in Laura Rozen’s column, namely, Karim Sadjadpour, who praises Mr. Limbert. Who is Mr. Sadjadpour? Well, I dug up this little gem of a column in Haaretz, where he claims that Khamenei does not mean ill harm to Israel, and that an Israeli attack on Iran would only increase, not decrease, the threat from Iran. He also wrote a column decrying the Congressional vote declaring the Revolutionary Guard “terrorists,” and has repeatedly called for “engagement” with the bloodthirsty Iranian regime.
It thus should be no surprise that Mr. Sadjadpour also believes that Mr. Limbert has the best interests of the USA and Iran in mind. Hmm…very interesting. And how exactly could someone have both the best interests of the USA and Iran in mind? How exactly are American interests aligned with the bloodthirsty thugocracy of Iran?
So then we go full circle and ask…who is Mr. Limbert himself, beyond his associations?
Answer: he is someone who calls for ‘engagement’ with Tehran, even in light of their brutal suppression of democracy, and even calls for the U.S. to negotiate “without preconditions.”
He even called the U.S. the “puppet master” of Iran under the Shah, is married to an Iranian woman (who likely influences his views), and even advocates talks without dealing with the nuclear issue head-on, and with no time tables. Source. He proudly said as much at the NIAC (Iranian lobby in DC) conference, where he also said he was “agnostic” on whether Iran is seeking nukes. (!!!)
This is who Obama sees fit to give the head job at the State Department, in charge of “negotiations” with Tehran. Someone who, as the evidence shows so clearly, is associated with the Iranian regime lobby in Washington D.C., and someone whose friends apparently believe he will be pushing Iranian regime interests.
In case anyone has any doubts, it is quite clear where Obama stands with regards to Iran and so-called “engagement,” now that he has appointed Limbert, a man linked to the Iranian lobby, to such a sensitive position. It is all the more intriguing to see the J Street connection popping up yet again.
Tags: Iran, J Street, john limbert, NIAC, obama, U.S. Institute of Peace, U.S. State Department
And the hits just keep coming.
The Progressive-Imperialist Axis is a danger to humanity. It is the evilest coalition ever assembled.
Interesting
Community organizing at its best. \
@ Silhouette:
Long enough for Stockholm syndrome.
Thanks for the favor down below Rodan. (I know that didn’t sound right…just get over it. lol)
Are Rahm and Axlerod Obama’s brain? Everything the left accused W and Cheney of doing is being done by this administration.
Mr. Sadjadpour apparently believes that Mr. Limbert has the best interests “of the United States and Iran in mind.”
That’s the worst part. What is in the best interest for one is not in best interest of the other. It’s a non-statement.
Silhouette wrote:
There is no doubt his Award for Valor having been held hostage is valid and praise worthy. Although just being held hostage involuntarily is not in of itself heroic, I will give him the benefit of the doubt. Having said that, just like John McCain was a genuine Hero, it does not in any way validate his present views and actions.
bellamags wrote:
No it’s a statement of one who believes that the United States of America has for to long just defended it’s own self interests and should be more concerned about the “World”. Kinda in line with our Present President and the UN!
bellamags wrote:
But I think that perfectly reflects Obama’s idea of what our foreign policy should be. Not ‘playing favorites’ or putting the interests of the US above those of any other country, no matter how loathesome its regime.
Behold what the majority of voting American people have done by electing a Marxist who intends on destroying America by bringing it down to a level for global consumption.
It wasn’t enough for his transition team to select Hasan. He had to go full tilt with his choices for czars and now this.
@ Nevergiveup:
Agreed. As president of the US, Obama is the most powerful man in the world. His actions since he has been in office show he is not comfortable with that power. Everything he has done has weakened this country, leveled the playing field in the name of fairness and progress.
My, what a Farsi-cal administration we have.
bellamags wrote:
Oh, but is a statement where the real intent is veiled. Israel. That, in B. Hussein and Limbert collective minds, is where the ‘best interests’ lay.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
B. Hussein says, Iran for this purpose.
bellamags wrote:
And believe me our real Allies are getting nervous. See they don’t really want an even playing field. They were very comfortable with that slanted playing field that they didn’t have to build, but that was built and maintained by the armed force of the United States of America. Welcome to the real world pals!
Silhouette wrote:
Very. I would have thought that he would have a different view of Iran because of this. It reminds me of the British Journalist (can’t remember name at the moment) who was kidnapped by Al-queda/Taliban and made excuses for them once released and back in England. One would think that upon feeling first hand the treatment they would like for all Westerners, people like Mr. Limbert would have more sense.
And where the heck is the edit button?
OT- you might want to include CAMERA in your blogroll. It shows how the world media continually misrepresents Israel.
@ song_and_dance_man:
It should be towards your left.
What’s the matter – Chaz Freeman was not available?
@ Lost:
Maybe his “Award” was for being held hostage by the State department?
@ Rodan:
I don’t see it.
@ song_and_dance_man:
Iraq my brain trying to keep up with you guys.
Speranza wrote:
Good one!
And now Lambert is being held hostage by his Progressive views.
bellamags wrote:
Good point.
The Left has not been comfortable with the reality of America’s power for decades now. Obama was raised to believe that it is a negative force in the world. So he’s in an awkward position.
I think he wants to find the “present” button.
Did Obama explain why he didn’t simply hire Mahmoud Ahmadinejad himself for the position or is Dinner Jacket playing hard to get?
Unbelievable.
@ song_and_dance_man:
Heh.
At the risk of repeating myself, I have believed since Obama’s silence during the Iranian election riots that a nuclear Iran is part of what he desires.
I believe that he and his advisors are stupid enough to actually think that “Israeli injustice to the Palestinians” is the cause of Muslim unrest; that if they can wangle a “Palestinian state” everything will be solved; that if they tell the mullahs that they will get the Palestinians a state, the mullahs will promise not to nuke Israel, and stand by their promise (at least until Obama is safely out of office and therefore not responsible); that with this promise in hand they can thereby pressure Israel into giving up everything that Ehud Barak offered Yassir Arafat.
I believe that is Obama’s Middle Eastern policy. I would love to be dead wrong, but I have seen nothing to suggest I am.
Awesome, now we have Arabists and Iranianists in our State Department. I guess at least we won’t be accused of being too pro Sunni.
What a bunch of complete Shiite.
@ Eliana:
OT:
I got your email, and wrote you back.
“Agnostic”? Nope.
There is clearly a halo over Iran’s nukes.
Sunni or later we will realize we have bought a pile of Shiite.
Nevergiveup wrote:
Hopefully we only have three more years of this.
bellamags wrote:
He’s Diana Moon Glampers, the Handicapper-General in Vonnegut’s short story Harrison Bergeron.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I am inclined to buy your argument.
Anyone who thinks that Obama’s past reference to Israel as “a constant sore” is meaningless would have to be willfully blind.
@ wolfie:
“willfully blind.”
I think that is the definition of many of my liberal jewish relatives
@ buzzsawmonkey:
And with that the analogies of B. Hussein as a modern day Chamberlain have real merit. B.H.O. is clearly empathetic if not sympathetic to the so called ‘plight’ of the Palestinians that he moves people into administrative office that facilitate his predisposed ideals. Really dangerous stuff. And this, right after the clear lesson of Maj. Hasan, shows he learns nothing from recent events about putting Muslim sympathizers, or worse, in offices of authority. He does have a mission and, sad to say, is leading America to a place it should not go.
wolfie wrote:
Obama gets his view of the Middle East from Hamas sympathizer Jeremiah Wright; from Israel-haters Rashid Khalidi and Bill Ayers; from Samantha Power, who advocated invading Israel with US troops to force creation of a Palestinian state; from the post-Civil Rights Movement grievance-mongers who view the “Palestinians” as sister liberation movement.
Over at zero point zero Chuck is writing about Westboro Baptist Church.
Is that his idea of religion? Faith? If so that explains much to me. My guess, based on experience, is that Chuck only likes Jews who are athiests.
As far as I’m concerned anyone who is willfully blind deserves everything they’ve got coming to them. And I will gladly kick people like that when they’re down. Many times.
bellamags wrote:
That is as good as it gets. Most of the time my puns are in the Qatar.
@ wolfie:
The left consistently shows their hatred for those that have power. Palin is a prime example. I am willing to bet that if the republicans didn’t make such a fuss over her when she was nominated for VP (remember that? Made McCain look weak) they wouldn’t be constantly trying to tear her to shreds.
Liberals seem to be uncomfortable with popularity, power, beauty, good, truth, self reliance, intelligence and hard work. In complete contradiction to natural selection, they want to eliminate all things that make someone better than someone else.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I will read that.
krik_t_semaj wrote:
Professional courtesy, personality cult to personality cult.
@ bellamags:
Good story. Vonnegut’s short stories are much less moonbatty than his novels.
wolfie wrote:
That was exactly my point when examining the words of Mr. Lamberts choice by the Carnegie commrades, “…someone who has the best interests of the United States and Iran in mind”.
They are referencing Israel.
@ wolfie:
No, I’m sure Mr. Bow to the Saudi King, and hang with Khalidi loves Israel and the Jews. Don’t be so Obamaphobic.
/
song_and_dance_man wrote:
I am Syria-s. You guys have HUGE Bahrains.
bellamags wrote:
If natural selection were in play liberals would be selected for extinction. It is only the actions of the adults around them that keeps this from happening.
@ bellamags:
Remember, they have some peculiar ideas of what constitutes the US’s interest.
OT – shocka! /not
41 Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 10, 2009 3:11:37pm replyquote
OT – (I guess)
Since Iceweasel and Jimmah are now an “item” I guess up ding takes on a whole new meaning?
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Just read that the last time you mentioned it. The notion of Leftist equality at its worst.
@ bellamags:
Harrison Bergeron, full text.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
The Obama administration also reminds me of the Ministry of Magic in Harry Potter. Unwilling to accept evil roams the earth.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
He was on that kick the other day also? Putz
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Ok that will take me about 5 min. brb.
bellamags wrote:
Heh. You Saud it, not me.
Speranza wrote:
It kind of blows a big fat hole in the weasel’s claim to have been an American, the constant Anglicisms in its writing notwithstanding.
@ krik_t_semaj:
They’re a typical Christian church. At least in bizarro blog.
@ Nevergiveup:
OT:
Not too long ago the “G-d hates Fags” crowd were out harassing my Shul with the old and tired “Repent Thee Who Killed Jesus”.
Don’t they realize that (a) no one cares what they say and (b) they only hurt what they claim is their cause?
I don’t buy “the best interests of America” part for a second. That’s the throw away phrase to get the next one out. “The best interests of Iran. ‘ That’s the money quote.
This guy reminds me of George Galloway who was married to a Muslim woman. He was on the take from Saddam and didn’t give a shit abt. Britain.
Can’t Zero just chose one regular decent patriotic American for anything?
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Are you sure the weasel is even a female?
bellamags wrote:
Oman, I’ll bet you have a huge Iraq.
@ WrathofG-d:
Obama just loves himself. He’s a Narcissist and he has a soft spot for Dictators and thugs.
chickadee wrote:
Remember when “dissent was the highest form of patriotism?”
Nowadays, de stench is.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Love, unAmerican Style,
Let’s get rid of Red, White and Blue.
Love, unAmerican Style,
That’s me and you.
Nevergiveup wrote:
And of my moonbat sister. She buys into all the leftist nonsense, except for the pro-Palestinian line. She tends to be sincerely pro-Israel.
But when I confronted her last year with a list of Obama’s close associates, many of whom are overtly anti-semitic, it fell on deaf ears. She was in looooooove and didn’t want to hear about it. Still doesn’t.
I suspect there are quite a few liberals like that out there.
@ WrathofG-d:
For what it’s worth. They don’t speak for God or most Christians.
LGoPs wrote:
And they have no idea who protects them, as they cavort around like imbeciles inviting monsters into the castle.
Cut the “0″ some slack. His poor judgment in his selections are just an indication of “0″s PTSD, brought on by MONSTROUS RACISM showing up in urban settings.
He’s a victim!
/I will now slit my wrists.
@ WrathofG-d:
Refresh my memory. What is their cause?
Nevergiveup wrote:
“Sure?” Thankfully, no—as I would have had to have met the creature.
But it does exude a particular type of mendacity that I associate with “phony feminist” females—the types who simultaneously assert something which sounds like feminist principles, then runs whining and complaining when they are actually treated in a manner equivalent with their own behavior.
@ snork:
Cj picks the fringe to load on because he’s in the same grouping.
Iran the minute this turned into a pun thread. But I am back now.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Wow. It kind of played like “Minority Report” in my head. Not the story, but the setting.
@ NoThreat2U:
Because when the puns get bad, I get Algiers.
@ WrathofG-d:
Those guys are loons. In fact Phelps used to support Al Gore. They are actually a Leftwing Christian group.
snork wrote:
The Haunted Palace
—Edgar Allen Poe
In the greenest of our valleys
By good angels tenanted,
Once a fair and stately palace—
Radiant palace—reared its head.
In the monarch Thought’s dominion—
It stood there!
Never seraph spread a pinion
Over fabric half so fair!
Banners yellow, glorious, golden,
On its roof did float and flow,
(This—all this—was in the olden
Time long ago,)
And every gentle air that dallied,
In that sweet day,
Along the ramparts plumed and pallid,
A winged odor went away.
Wanderers in that happy valley,
Through two luminous windows, saw
Spirits moving musically,
To a lute’s well-tuned law,
Round about a throne where, sitting
(Porphyrogene!)
In state his glory well-befitting,
The ruler of the realm was seen.
And all with pearl and ruby glowing
Was the fair palace door,
Through which came flowing, flowing, flowing,
And sparkling evermore,
A troop of Echoes, whose sweet duty
Was but to sing,
In voices of surpassing beauty,
The wit and wisdom of their king.
But evil things, in robes of sorrow,
Assailed the monarch’s high estate.
(Ah, let us mourn!—for never morrow
Shall dawn upon him, desolate!)
And round about his home the glory
That blushed and bloomed,
Is but a dim-remembered story
Of the old time entombed.
And travellers, now, within that valley,
Through the red-litten windows see
Vast forms, that move fantastically
To a discordant melody,
While, like a ghastly rapid river,
Through the pale door
A hideous throng rush out forever
And laugh-but smile no more.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Oh she’s a Brit to the core! “Bollocks”, “wankers” gimme a break. A marriage made in hell. They deserve each other. Imagine what their sex life will be like – on the other hand!
@ snork:
LOL
@ wolfie:
When talking to a liberal about B. Hussein it is recommended you tell them to put a finger in one ear. It helps with leakage in a ‘plug the dam with a finger’ sorta way.
@ bellamags:
Good, huh?
snork wrote:
Don’t be a Laos.
I could have made a pun about Libya and woman’s naughty bits, but let’s keep this at least PG-13.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Yes and you said this guy writes moonbattery?
Speranza wrote:
Imagine the Dentist bill.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Holy carp! Perfect fit!
Poe was a prophet!
In bourbon veritas!
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Bloody hilarious! Great line!!
@ song_and_dance_man:
They are euroweenies. They don’t know what a dentist is.
And snork? i can’t believe you ALMOST went there with Libya. ROFLMAO******
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Shit, I think i just had a wet dream?
/
bellamags wrote:
Most of Vonnegut’s novels are very moonbatty; very antiwar, very anti-religion, and with cutesy verbal tics that can drive you nuts. I loved his early work–Cat’s Cradle, Mother Night, God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater–in high school, but that was 40 years ago; by the time he came out with Slaughterhouse Five, I couldn’t stand him.
But his short stories have some enduring merit.
@ Rodan:
I am beginning to believe that his entire methodology for International peace is to flip the United States on its head, by siding with what were our traditional enemies (and for good reason).
Obama has often admitted that he was not happy with what the U.S. was before he became elected, and even promised to fundamentally change it. He is simply following through with his promise.
From the mindset of an individual whom believes that the U.S. is an imperialist, world dominating, international thug that has brought mostly harm to the world by its past actions, his full reversal on our underlying principals is not so surprising. It would fit that in his mind our fighting evil, and siding with Western Democracies IS the problem as those actions have brought about all of the evil in the world. From the mindset of a true Progressive, these (false) presumptions and understanding are not surprising. (just listen to Pacifica Radio).
It would also explain his foreign policy. Since the way we were doing it (siding with the good guys) has brought such misery to the world, the under developed, the under privileged, etc., we should instead side with those leaders who are “for the people” (ie: who we Conservatives consider Dictators, Communists, etc.) When you consider the U.S. policies as the problem, it only makes sense to side with those who have claimed this (that the U.S. is the problem)
CHANGE!
wolfie wrote:
Fish worshiper, you be?
@ wolfie:
I’ve been surprised nobody has posted it in this context before.
Nevergiveup wrote:
I don;t know who is a more miserable person – weasel or Jimmah? Come to think of it maybe it could be a double wedding – Irish Rose/Lars – wesael/Jiimmah.
NoThreat2U wrote:
No they are Liberal Weenies. Coming to an organic vegetable kiosk, in packages of two, near you.
I just heard a clip on the radio of Zero at the memorial today. He said something like ‘We all know the killer will be met with justice in this world and the next.” He said it almost mournfully. He sounded like a 2nd rate preacher.
WrathofG-d wrote:
I would remind people that Pacifica Radio is the farm team for NPR.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I could oath it was you that linked it before. I read it right after the link, whoever it was that did it.
@ song_and_dance_man:
I might have. I don’t recall.
Mark Levin playing Taps for the murdered soldiers.
makes me sad.
chickadee wrote:
He is a true patriot.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Los Angeles’ Pacifica Radio Station
KPFK
@ snork:
I am rather fond of seafood, come to think of it!
But no, I just like that typo because it lets me swear and still appear ladylike. I am ladylike. Really.
@ wolfie:
I’m pretty lady-like as well.
OK, it’s time for my update of the 2009 Weblog Awards. BRB
WrathofG-d wrote:
Oh snap, that is something I didn’t ever want to read.
Time to get the chicken out of the oven.
Abyssinia!
@ song_and_dance_man:
May I preempt you?
New Relationship Blog=LGF
Seriously though, what interests do the U.S. and Iranian regime share?
sorry if this is old news, but here is hasan the murderer’s 50 slide presentation. Apparently, the title is The Koranic World View As It Relates to Muslims in the U.S. Military.
@ WrathofG-d:
I used to listen to WBAI, New York’s Pacifica station, several decades ago. Most of their genuine talent went over to the local NPR affiliate. People like John Hockenberry, the “Palestinian”-lover, became national NPR reporters.
I quit listening to WBAI long ago. The Stalinist infighting, the NAMBLA-sympathetic programs, etc., etc., just got to be too much to bear.
@ Kirly:
OT:
I was having this conversation earlier today where me and a co-worker were trying to imagine the outcome if a WW2 soldier was going around expounding on how great the Nazis really were, and how they should stand up to the aggressive Allied powers.
Just sort of let’s you know how far we have fallen.
Dark chocolate is fantastic. yummmm
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I have been listing to Pacifica for a while as well, and what concerns me the most is that what used to be far left revolutionary thought is now finding its place (for the most part) in our present administration.
I know that sounds a bit extreme, but I just call it how I hear it. I am often shocked as well to hear actual Democrat party leaders in one way or another discussing concepts that I first heard many years ago spouted by Rage Against The Machine.
OT
As a reminder- let’s all do our part to promote our new home, The Blogmocracy.
We are in the running at The 2009 Weblog Awards
The rules are to nominate once and plus ding that nomination as a vote, but, alas, we have multiple nominations in 6 categories. I recommend that everyone here plus ding the first nomination only since according to the rules, it is the first mention that counts and the other nominations may be deleted.
Here is the latest tally. (I have eliminated the total votes since the other nominations may, in the end, have no merit)
Best Blog – 6 nominations – total first nomination vote 54
Best New Blog – 8 nominations – total first nomination vote 54
Best New Political Blog – 4 nominations – total first nomination vote 41
Best Online Community – 6 nominations – total first nomination vote 38
Best Conservative Blog – 9 nominations –total first nomination vote 57
Best Political Blog – 1 nomination – total first nomination vote 17
Us winning in any of these categories will give us more visibility, soooo…..
Go do that voodoo, that you do, so well.
@ song_and_dance_man:
YOU the Song_and_Dance_Man!
Thank you!
I used to love their music, until I realized what they stood for. As well as System of a Down. Never did like Green Day. I still listen, but with guilt in the back of my head.
bellamags wrote:
Yes, I had the same problem with RATM. Once I actually realized what they were advocating it lost a bit of its luster. I still own them, so I still listen but I sure DO NOT agree.
Especially since they advocate murdering “settlers from Gaza…”. Jerks advocating killing my friends, and relatives….
WrathofG-d wrote:
Thanks for the thanks, but I do it from the heart because of who we have here.
And just so you know, we are in the lead in every category with the exception of Best Blog. But we are second there.
Well just did my last filling for the night and just one more patient in the hygenist’s chair
@ WrathofG-d:
Still like the “F you I won’t do what you tell me.” (which really is a conservative principle, so go figure)
@ Nevergiveup:
omg, you are still at work? what time zone are you in?
bellamags wrote:
White Chocolate is even better.
Well, the kitchen beckons. In and out till dinner is done.
@ song_and_dance_man:
I voted. did you see the next nomination? by someone named Mandy. Hmmmm.
Speranza wrote:
Ray Nagin is gonna get you.
OK OPEN THREAD
UP!
@ Speranza:
I have been on a White Chocolate Latte kick at S-bux. So good. It’s like liquid sex in the morning.
Now we can go back to the originally scheduled program on this thread…
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
LOL
I just found out from my children that the Cookie Monster is now called the Vegetable Monster. I am crushed. This, of all things, has really altered my world view.
bellamags wrote:
TAS time zone–tired as shit—-actual EST. Today is my late day.
song_and_dance_man wrote:
White chocolate…..IS! NOT!! CHOCOLATE!!!
(and no true chocolate would ever associate with it)
chickadee wrote:
I heard a clip on the radio and he said they were killed on our soil, when the fact is they were murdered.
@ WrathofG-d:
Far indeed. I’m a bit close to the whole WWII era for my age (all my uncles were involved and i was born when Pops was a bit old so i’m sort of out of my own generation) and i know that anyone who’d expressed similar thoughts during that era would likely be court martialed for treason (not sure of my terminology there).
There’s never been a ‘backlash’ in this country against Muslims.
Even after 9-11, they went abt their lives unmolested.
It is more frustrating, at this point, to watch the media and our apologist Politicians lie abt. and contort the real meaning of what is being done in the name of Islam. How many more innocent people will die because of cowards in our country who can’t face the enemy. Or at least name them.
Oops! Replied to the wrong one. Sorry, but my eye started to twitch when Speranza mentioned **shudder** white chocolate.
@ Truck Monkey:
You can’t be serious.
@ Russkilitlover:
RACIST!!
@ chickadee:
There was one man murdered here in the Phoenix area. He was actually a Sikh. The murderer worked at the facility where they build the Apache helicopter and was later rumored to be of below average intelligence. I read about all this on news websites a few years after the fact and do not have personal knowledge of the shooter nor the victim.
But, as Atlas pointed out the other day, that’s 1 compared to thousands.
Truck Monkey wrote:
The Cookie Monster is now the Vegetable Monster? That is criminal and sad.
@ bellamags:
I googled it. It’s true. DEATH TO THE CHILDRENS TELEVISION WORKSHOP!
Truck Monkey wrote:
NPR was cooing all over the place about the 40th anniversary of Sesame Street today.
Here’s the thing, though; Sesame Street is supposed to be a means for inculcating literacy. It’s not. It doesn’t teach kids to read; it teaches them to watch TV. And the fast cutting and zip zap zoop stuff merely helps them develop a short attention span and an expectation that “education” = entertainment.
The most telling quote in the NPR feature was a CTW person saying that “the children are always right.” No, they’re not. They’re children. One of the problems with this country today is that the “children are always right” attitude has replaced recognition of the value of things like experience, and the knowledge that worthwhile things are not always easily acquired.
@ Kirly:
Often these “right wing” murderers turn out to have other issues. Like that guy ten years or so ago who shot up that Jewish center in LA and then shot and killed the mailman. Turns out, he asked to be readmitted to the mental hospital, and they turned him away.
Truck Monkey wrote:
Jack and Jill went up the hill.
Using handrails and OSHA approved slip-resistant mats.
That’s it, nothing more happened.
chickadee wrote:
If so, why is he still so fat?????
@ Silhouette:
LOL!
Kirly wrote:
Yes, I remember reading abt this guy who was murdered. He wasn’t even a Muslim.
He just had a wrap on his head. That is the only case of attempted retribution against Mo’s.
I wonder how long they will get to kill, though, before we can even freely discuss what they are doing and speculate on why.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
While I understand the concept behind “out of the mouth of babes”, I’m not going to let them direct my heart surgery or talk a jet plane down.
Can we talk football or is it too early in the week? Sigh.
I was having a crappy day and now I see this. OK, let’s look at the bright side. The only things worse than this would be FDR appointing Fritz Kuhn as his German relations adviser, or LBJ appointing George Lincoln Rockwell as ambassador to Israel. Dr. Mengele for a panel on medical ethics? Yeah– there are worse choices, I suppose.
Anyone seen my Scotch flask? If you find a full one with 12 year-old single malt, it’s mine!
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I love it. They play hardball and then when you hit back cry “You hit me and Im’ a girl”.
*snort*
On last year’s 24, after a terrorist bombing, those mouth-breathing knuckle dragging Amerikkans were dragging Muslims out of cars and houses and beating them in the streets. Oh, and there were concentration camps too.
In a leftist fantasy world, the common folk are just a hair trigger away from doing that at all times, if they, the leftists, don’t soothe us.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I think this started in the 60’s with the ‘establishment’ fawning all over snot-nosed college students and their faux wisdom and rebelliousness.
They should’ve gotten their asses kicked and maybe we wouldn’t be in the pickle we’re in right now.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
You’ve apparently forgotten about the election of 2008.
Lost wrote:
I hope he’s still getting cookies (and a few carrot sticks.)
Children need cookies and exercise. Getting rid of cookies doesn’t solve the problem of a sedentary life style that so many children live now. They need to get out in the sunshine, run and jump and look forward to cookies baking in the oven. Coming home to a plate of crudites, after an afternoon of romping sounds perfectly awful.
@ LGoPs:
Exactly.
lobo91 wrote:
They weren’t right, they were just more numerous.
LGoPs wrote:
I read a book about that very thing. Now if I could only remember by whom. Anyway, the argument was that every generation of young people thinks they have it all figured out, with naive thoughts like “The secret to peace is just not to go to war” and “If we took from those who have too much, and gave to those who have too little…” Kids have always “discovered” these ideas, only to have adults smack on the back of the head and say, “No, genius, and let me tell you why.”
Except with the baby boom, their shear numbers overwhelmed, in many cases, adult correction of their childish logic.
Of course it is more nuanced than just pure numbers, but the author presented convincing evidence that numbers did indeed contribute a not insignificant impact. (pardon the double neg)
@ chickadee:
as long as the dhimmicrats are in charge. i’ve lost what little tolerance and patience that i had for people who continued to vote for these idiots who keep putting these people in office.
@ Silhouette:
Hell, just be glad it isn’t Jack and Jack going up the hill to get a box of butt plugs…
Silhouette wrote:
IMHO, in addition to the numbers there was the patially understandable desire of the parents who had lived thru the depression and the war to protect their children from the hardships they had seen. However well intentioned, this was clearly a mistake. Not one that my parents (God bless them) made, by the way.
@ WrathofG-d:
Thanks – I wrote you back, too!
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Ehud Olmert offered the “Palestinians” even more last year, unfortunately. This is why Mahmoud Abbas and Obama are both demanding that negotiations between Israel and the “Palestinians” start with the Olmert offer that Abbas refused in 2008.
They’ve now been offered a state four times and they’ve refused it four times. 1937. 1948. 2000. 2008. This ought to be a hint and a half for any clear thinking person that the “Palestinians” don’t want their own little state smaller than Israel, don’t you think?
The “Palestinians” have wanted Israel all along and nothing but Israel.
Obama either doesn’t know this or he doesn’t care.
Most likely, he doesn’t care.
Actually, the Arabs turned down offers of a state in 1937, 1947, 2000 and 2008.
@ Eliana:
“Palestinians” won’t be happy until Israel is reduced to about 2 square miles.
If, as the “Palestinians” have suggested, the Jooos were ‘relocated’ somewhere else, any bets as to that part of the world suddenly becoming another one of the ‘most holy places’ in Islam?
@ IslandLibertarian:
I kinda like ‘Frankenbama’ better. If you squint real tight it looks like Jimmah Carter !
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Now if someone will just type ’spot on’ my day will be complete …:-)
Hey, I was robbed of my smiliey thingy…doesn’t work anymore ? Testing
testing one, two 
Ah ha ! Must be a space between characters.
This:-) doesn’t work, this does
@ LGoPs:
Kids are overburdened with so much information these days, but with no life experiences to help them use it. It’s like being given a loaded weapon without any training.