I don’t do posts on LGF anymore but I had to today.
The anti-Christian bigotry at the Radical Maoist Blog Little Green Footballs continues. Former minor Jazz artist Charles “Icarus” Johnson has made no secret of his hatred of Christianity. He attacks daily any Christian involvement in politics and takes swipes at all denominations.
Charles’s latest Target is the Catholic Church. He has in the past love bashing the Catholic faith and the church’s stand on Social issues. His newest attack is over the Catholic Church informing Washington DC. that if Same Sex Marriage is approved, they will stop providing social services. This is reasonable on the church’s part since it goes against our faith to accept Same Sex marriage. Charles ever the clever propagandist, twists the the story to make it seem as if the Catholic Church is all powerful and mighty.
Take a look at his headline.
Catholic Church Gives Washington DC an Ultimatum
The Catholic Archdiocese of Washington DC has threatened to stop providing all social services unless the DC City Council drops plans for a gay marriage bill.
He then only gives the City Council viewpoint, without the Catholic counterpoint.
Under the bill, headed for a council vote next month, religious organizations would not be required to perform or make space available for same-sex weddings. But they would have to obey city laws prohibiting discrimination against gay men and lesbians. Church officials say Catholic Charities would have to suspend its social services work for the city, rather than provide employee benefits to same-sex married couples or allow them to adopt.
Jim Graham (D-Ward 1), one of two openly gay members of the council, said Thursday morning that he hoped to reach a compromise with the Church. He noted that it is a major provider of services for immigrants in his ward.
Late Thursday, however, Graham said he had changed his mind after reviewing same-sex marriage laws in New Hampshire, Connecticut and Vermont. He asked why the Church has not abandoned services in those states.
“If the Catholic Church has been able to adjust in Connecticut, I think they can certainly adjust here,” Graham said.
This is not the totality of the article or the point of the article. The Washington Post clearly shows this is all a dispute, not the Catholic Church blackmailing the City. Here is the Catholic viewpoint.
“We’re going to continue to serve those in need,” Orzechowski said. “But how we do that, where we do it and the manner in which we do it is what’s at risk.”
Orzechowski said many of the people who work for Catholic Charities and receive its services are from the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community, but giving same-sex spousal benefits to staff members or placing adoptive children with gay couples would violate Church tenets.
Linda C. McClain, a law professor at Boston University who is studying the same-sex marriage debate nationwide, said the outcome of the standoff between the District and the Church could have far-reaching implications for other states.
“This case really pits the commitment to religious freedom against the importance of anti-discrimination,” McClain said. “The courts have been pretty clear that you can’t force a religious organization to express a message it doesn’t agree with. . . . But it’s a tougher case to say you won’t be able to provide services to the poor because of this.”
Read the whole article.
As you can see the City Council’s decision to pass a Sam Sex Marriage Law would force the church to give benefits to Partners, which would result in defacto Church recognition of this type of arrangement. This clearly goes against the teachings of Catholicism which holds Marriage is between Man and Woman. It’s the DC. City council imposing it’s views on the Church, not the other way around.
Little Green Footballs is a Propaganda Organ for the Totalitarian Progressive Movement. The website spews Leftist talking points that are repeated in the Leftist Media, Daily Kos, Think Progress and Talking Points Memo. It is even more to the Left of these other blogs as the blog owner Charles “Icarus” Johnson launches daily attacks on Christians. He is a bigoted Militant and it’s plain for all to see. LGF is the real hate blog as it is a place Faith believing Christians are not welcomed. Charles is a Christophobe and he can no longer deny this.
Question to my Blogmocracy Netizens, do you think Charles would ever attack Islam the way he attacks Catholics and other Christians?
Another question, how long until he turns on Israel?
Update: LGF poster rollwave87 now compares the Catholic Church to Hizb’Allah and Hamas
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female protestant clergy: check
female catholic clergy: nope
female muslim clergy: nopewow! how could I even dare to say the two are similar in their essential views about the capability of women? what was I thinking?
multiple choice quiz. who said the following: you have to put up with our bigotry and religious extremism, or all of the wonderful community work we do will go away! was it a) hamas in gaza b) hezbolah in beirut or c) the catholic church in DC or d)all of the above?
Update II: I call on all Blogmocracy Netizens to write to the Catholic League on this. Here is their contact Information. Anti-Catholic Bigotry muct be confronted.
Good luck you megalomaniac woose.
selrahC is a run-away cowardly pussy
If Charles is pro-gay marriage, he is to the Left of the Democrats and Obama himself. Good luck with that. There’s a good reason that the Donks aren’t pusihing this. They are called the voters. Lots of voters. There is a strong bipartisan coalition against gay marriage. If Johnson don’t like that, he can move somewhere gay marriage is legal. Canada, maybe?
@ BuddyG:
@ teacake:
Hey we where due for a Chucky thread!
Yup. Christophobia is why I walked away from my Liberal upbringing. I could no longer deny just how anti-christian the Left really was, not just against “evangelicals”, but anything and anybody Bible-based. And it’s why I eventually walked away from LGF. It’s the church which is being imposed upon daily, not the other way around. Time for christians of all political stripes to make a choice– Liberalism, or christianity. One, or the other. You can’t have both anymore. I made my choice.
@ Iron Fist:
Agree, even Maine rejected Gay Sex Marriage!
Disgusting! So the Catholic Church which serves pretty much anyone in need who asks must also submit to the G-dless libral agenda in order to receive funding to help people? Sounds logical to me.Lets see how well the more pliant religous charities handle the extra clientele.I know from experience that Catholic charities are among the most effective in many communities. If you’re a militant leftist atheist I guess this all makes sense.
selrahC you are a pos to attack true community organizers on their stand against the government predicating financial assistance on the support of beliefs anathema to their professed faith.
In all fairness, he HAS, in the past been a harsh critic of Islam. Alas, those days are past and many of the things that he, himself, once said on the subject of Islam are now grounds for banning.
As for his Catholic bashing, it seems consistent with his Leftist transformation. Charles is clearly an athiest, and athiests seem to have a particular hatred for Christianity and and reserve a very special hatred for Catholicism.
He’s a man without ethics, morals or even a set of core beliefs. He’s a classic narcissist sociopath.
Will he tun on Israel? No doubt in my mind.
“We’re going to continue to serve those in need,” Orzechowski said. “But how we do that, where we do it and the manner in which we do it is what’s at risk.”
Ah. I see why this is objectionable. The almighty State is supposed to tell the Catholic Church HOW and WHERE to serve. I get it.
BTW, that councilman Graham is wrong if he thinks there is no precedent for the Church having to give up social services because of the gay ‘marriage’ problem. Is he forgetting or deliberately ignoring Massachusetts, where the Church closed its adoption services rather than give in to the gay-rights extremists.
Rodan! Please check blogmocracy email.
@ Jesusland:
Many of those Christophobes hate Jews as well. They just don’t come out and say it to avoid the Anti-Semite tag. Instead they rail against Zionism.
@ Rodan:
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think everywhere gay marriage has gone in front of the voters it has lost. One of the few things that we can say there is a solid consensus on in this country today. I think gun control is another, but it is much less solid than the gay marriage thing.
@ Rodan:
They sure do! I stand arm in arm with my Christian/Catholic brothers and sisters!
So the church is required to provide social services for a governmental entity? I doubt it. Good on em for taking a stand. Now if they would excommunicate all Democrats who advocate for gay marriage and abortion, that would make me happy.
Speaking of that douchebag Johnson, where’s he on the latest episode of Obama didn’t really bow?
Why should I even shed any tears for this fellow?
@ Iron Fist:
He could try BFE.
Pardon my ignorance, who is selrahC ? During the end of my interest in lgf there were so many new “hatchlings” that I gave up on even looking at all the new names.
@ teacake:
Charles spelled backwards
@ teacake:
We do our best not to utter his true name here.
Up until recently I couldn’t figure out why the left who are mostly anti-religion would have so much respect for islam. Then it occurred to me that they really don’t consider islam a real religion, but that islam hates Christians and Jews as much as they do.
@ teacake:
Charles spelled azzbackwards as he is so fond of doing to certain members of the lgf diaspora and other assorted enemies. I believe our m coined it.
teacake wrote:
Spell selrahC backwards.
@ kansas:
@ Macker:
OH! LOLOL thanks .
@ teacake:
Yup and add to that the age old delusion of appeasers that the big bad kittie will eat them last….because they’ve been so empathetic and all.
This is the way it is done today. Progressives have rejected the methods of Lenin et al, but not their goals. They don’t round up Christians, load them on barges, and sink the barges in freezing waters anymore. That is tacky. You do the Alinsky thing: marginalize, isolate, demonize.
And be sure to restrict the freedom of the churches by imposing on them a host of petty aggravations in the name of mysteriously-derived “rights.”
From what I understand, non-christians want nothing to do with the church, G-d and the ‘imagined’ hope it teaches. But then they turn around and fall hook line and sinker for the hope Obama is selling.
I’m confused
CJ won’t attack Islam the way he goes after the Christian faith. I bet he doesn’t even criticize Islam now for anything. Look how he covered for the Muslim terrorist Hasan.
BTW, Zero himself said he was against “Gay marriage.” Why can’t the Catholic Church follow it’s traditions of hundreds of years.
CJ needs to think abt. what Islam does to gays. That’s a much more pressing issue.
How many have swung from lamp posts or been bulldozed, screaming, into pits?
Islam doesn’t recognize their right to live. . . . let alone get married.
@ Iron Fist:
Yes it has never passed when presented to voters.
vagabond trader wrote:
Remember when the group of stupid’s went to Iraq to form a human chain? LOL They all thought they were so important and doing so much good, but when reality hit and they saw what deep shit they were in they had to leave with their little tails between their legs, or be shot.
Tools till the end. And now that I think of it, these leftest crazed do gooders are not doing any one in oppressive societies any good whatsoever. The left is making things worse. Dictators clamping down all over the world and now here.
Homosexuality is a deadly perversion. One wishes to view such people with this sex addiction with at least some amount of compassion, but that doesn’t negate there are very very unhealthful, unnatural — even immoral aspects of the sex addiction that should not be given sanction by society with such rituals as marriage.
Incidentally, many homosexuals are also talented artists. Vladimir Horowitz arranged Sousa’s The Stars and Stripes Forever which is fiendishly difficult.
I’ll have to pick up an acoustic piano in order to get for the keys not to fall off and get the sound of an acoustic piano instead of a digital one.
More Wapo. Good explanations
@ vagabond trader:
Took care of it, thanks!
The Left and Islam do disagree on some things, but both of them have the exact same major goal, the same priority. That is the destruction of the Western heritage, the burning of Athens-Rome-Jerusalem. Especially Jerusalem.
I was just over at the swamp reading that BS.lol
for G-d’s sake when I was a scout leader the gays wanted to be able to be Scout leaders
@ vagabond trader:
Amen to that.Both the Christian and Jewish faith are under siege from the Islamo-Imperialists and Progressives. The worst is there are traitors on the Jewish and Christian side who are helping our enemies.
@ teacake:
I also like the nutters who try to break into Gaza by sea and the Israelis promptly turn their azzes around.LOL!
@ Kali:
Kali, everything in the world these days has me utterly confused. Even the Twilight Zone makes more sense.
chickadee wrote:
Yet another reason why ISLAM DELENDA EST.
@ chickadee:
Bingo!!
Kali wrote:
“An atheist is not someone who believes in nothing. He is someone who will believe in anything.” – GK Chesterton
@ wolfie:
Both Progressives and Islamo-Imperialists want a One World government.
@ Rodan:
@ vagabond trader:
But VT they are global citizens who know better than sovereign government’s do to how to run things. Ship of fools comes to mind. lol
With all the deadly things going on in the world. I mean things that can make your Arse a memory,Gay marriage is not even on my radar. I could give a crap about peoples’personal lives. And don’t think it’s the business of the government one way or another. Not in straight marriage NOR in what they want,gay marriage. Besides,I do not have to pay for other people’s sins in the end. Gay marriage does not affect me. Nor does it affect other marriages. What the hell is the big deal?
@ Rodan:
Unfortunately Rodan, looks like its on the way and nothing we can do about it. I hope Beck and Rush begin discussing the Treaty bullshit coming right up. That pretty much seals the deal.
@ mawskrat:
What the gays want is societal approval, and that is exactly what they aren’t going to get. They can do what they like, as long as they keep it out of my face, but I don’t have to approve.
@ mawskrat:
Are you defending a neo-Nazi, theo-fascist, anti-science youth brigade like the Boy Scouts?! That is disgusting!
GET OFF MY BLOG!
@ Rodan:
Where the ☭ommunists hope to be eaten last by the Islamofas☪ists.
@ chickadee:
Excellent point! WTF is wrong with groups like “Queers for Palestine?” Hello! The bike rider should be exploring this mystery. The Catholic Church has been consistent in their doctrine concerning homosexuals for centuries.
teacake wrote:
He will have to circumvent the Constitution, because that is the only way this treaty will be enforced. The treaty will not be ratified by the senate. No way.
Just how would Chuckles react to yet another story of a homosexual in the M.E. being beheaded or stoned?
@ mawskrat:
Maw, I do recall when they wanted the Scouts to accept young homosexuals out of the closet. How did that end up anyhow? I’ve never understood why a child would already be so sure of their sexual identity. Let kids be kids for goodness sake. The world has gone totally insane.
I see Chuckie the hen is blasting Sarah again. Imagine that. A loser with his hat out for tips for amazon biscuits going after a smart successful woman who was governor and then a pawn for McCain. She’s not a loser Chuckie and you are.
@ Grimcargo:
Gay marriage isn’t really about gays having a loving, meaningful, committed relationship with legal ramifications. They can do all that right now, it just isn’t called marriage. The point of “gay marriage” is the devaluation of hetersexual traditional marriage. The devaluing it as an institution in society. This is an institution that has evolved over the last ten thousand years or so as a way of keeping society stable, allowing for the care and raising of offspring, and little things like that.
Gay marriage people want to monkey with that because, well darn it, it’d be kewl.
Truck Monkey wrote:
I pray to God you’re right about that. I thought he was just jetting it over. These assholes at that treaty business about conserving carbon are creating so much more than probably an entire city for several months worth of energy use. Hypocrites all, and there’s nothing I hate more than liars and hypocrites.
p.s. I wish someone in the blog would do our Daily Johnson.
I really dislike the guy and wish to here how badly he is doing (snicker).
@ Grimcargo:
Grim I also do not care but I do care about being coerced into believing and supporting something I don’t via bullying tactics supported by the government.The people have voted the propositions down each and everytime they have been brought to a vote.Civil unions fine, marriage NO!
What is so outlandish about Charles’ stance here is that he acts as if the church is going against the way of the world, against people’s long held beliefs. Not the other way around.
@ Grimcargo:
Excellent point G! LOL She’s done more in one day of her life than he has during the past several.
Iron Fist wrote:
Well I’m not an expert on gay things.But I have actually been in a situation where a guy was on his death bed and only his family was allowed and his partner didn’t count as family or having any rights.
And to want to have the right to marry is for the purpose of degrading traditional marriage, heck that would make no sense.
I just don’t care about this any further than I believe people should have all constitutional rights.
Iron Fist wrote:
I think there have been 31 times that gay marriage has been voted down. Citizens are against it.
Even California overrode their state legislature.. LOL Maine is the most recent. iirc
@ Grimcargo:
That is where civil unions come into play. Full rights for domestic partners.
@ teacake:
They will discuss that.
But why hasn’t the Catholic Church refused services in Connecticut (home of Roe v. Wade), New Hampshire and Vermont?
Macker wrote:
I don’t think they believe that they will be eaten at all. I honestly think they believe that they will win over the Islamicists with sweet words and pure ‘reason.’
@ Grimcargo:
And where, exactly, in the Constitution is a right to marriage? No one, no one is talking about Constitutional law here. The closest thing is the concern that the States that do not allow gay marriage would be forced to recognize it by those that do (currently, that would be Mass.), but that isn’t going to happen. States don’t have to give full faith and credit to concealed carry permits (though many do).
What is at issue isn’t Constitutional rights, it is the definiation od sociatal institutions.
Iron Fist wrote:
Iron – I don’t think it has anything to do with approval at this point. The agenda is to make a mockery out of tradition. A way to shit on things. There are no laws that I know of that they can’t put their partner on their will or even add to a living will that their lover can visit them in the hospital.
@ Rodan:
You crack me up.
I may be crossways of you all here. But heck. I wouldn’t want people voting to allow me to marry someone. I think they just want the rights other people in marriages are allowed. I’m a staunch constitutionalists and want all things that are put into government(and marriage should not be about government)to be equal.
@ vagabond trader:
I think Civil Unions is a fair compromise.
Truck Monkey wrote:
All bets are off on what Congress will or will not do these days.
CJ and Trout on the Brooklyn bridge look down at the ships.
Trout, look CJ, the Staten Island ferry
CJ, wow, I didn’t know we had our own Navy.
/// yes, yes, It’s old but I like it.
@ bellamags:
I’ve been told I have a humorous side.
I had to call Chucky out on this one!
Here in New Orleans there is a gay Catholic church. Old ladies are not too happy about that. They aren’t accepted I think by The Church. During Mardi Gras the gay priests are often seen in the streets in their leather and chain outfits. I’ve seen them and asked an old lady about that and she said they pretend to be a real church.
Iron Fist wrote:
Hey IronFist I don’t want to argue with you. But there is that ‘pursue happiness thing.” and you might go to the extreme there and say what if you wanted to behead someone because it makes you happy. But marriage is within the government because you have to buy a license and it’s threaded into every single aspect.ie;social security.
All I am saying is, I don’t give a crap if gay people marry.It does nothing to me. or robs me of anything.
Kali wrote:
This is a favorite technique of the left. They aggressively and undemocratically attack long-held customs and beliefs.And if you object, they scream that you are trying to “impose your values” on everyone.
They do this again and again.
@ Iron Fist:
Actually, I think what they really need is a grievance, in order to maintain some sort of political cohesiveness. You want to know why Blacks have no sympathy for gays? Because Black have real problems. While overt racism isn’t a real issue any more, they still have an out-of-control socio-economic dynamic that’s making it hard to see the progress that’s been made.
What have gays got to complain about? Basically social acceptance. You have the occasional freak incident like Mathew Shepard (and even that is in dispute), but largely, even in the old days when Blacks were being lynched, every town had a gay bar, and people made jokes, but violence was pretty rare.
And they earn more money than straights on average, and have hugely more disposable income. And yet they want to ride on MLKs’ coattails. If I were black, I’d be pissed off too, that a group of people who have such relatively minor problems were trying to ride on the coattails of the Civil Rights activists who worked so hard, and risked so much, and sometimes paid with their lives.
This is why the public reaction to gay marriage is so different from the public reaction to the Civil Rights movement. One was a real moral issue, and the other is contrived. It’s not that the grievances are necessarily wrong, it’s that they’re not on the same moral plane as Civil Rights.
@ Overlook:
Interesting question. No idea.
vagabond trader wrote:
Some comedian said : “Queers for Palestine” is as crazy as “Turkey’s for Thanksgiving”
ROFL . I have said that to gays who talk stupid. It really shuts them up.
@ Grimcargo:
Marriage is, by definition between a man and a woman. A man and several women, if you look for that, but a man and man? No where, ever in human history that I am aware of, not even gay-friendly Classical Greece. Certainly, the vast majority of cultures across the entire bredth of human history have defined marriage as being between men and women.
That is simply history, and no amount of wishing by Andrew Sullivan and his ilk (Randy Andy is the one who convinced me to be against gay marriage, btw) is going to change that.
chickadee wrote:
That must be some dumb queers since the Quran instructs to murder them.
@ snork:
Blacks are religiously conservative and being gay is not as tolerated as it is among other ethnicities.
Iron Fist wrote:
Well as soon as I am convinced that it’s going to harm me in any way,I’ll be against it.
@ Grimcargo:
LOL!!! Will use that one, thanks!btw I have gay guy friends who are opposed to gay marriage. Former Catholics who call it an abomination.
snork wrote:
I surely cannot equate the civil rights movement with gay rights.
@ Grimcargo:
The problem is it opens the door to changing more laws to appease every group with a personal agenda.
@ Rodan:
This is precisely the reason i stopped posting over there. I felt the posters that believed in God were attacked by those who don’t. I have met a few Athiests that seem to be angered by the mere mention of “God” or any other diety. My father in law was one of them. He would be absolutely giddy if a comedian (Bill Mahr his hero) on TV or a movie we were watching made fun of religion. He HATED the idea of God. It’s all about respect. Respect me and I will respect you. Its cool if you don’t want to believe in God or a higher being, just don’t bash me or assume I am less intelligent because I do.
Wonder how the Catholics (reine de tout) are going to like this little rant?
@ Kali:
Not necessarily. I used to make rosaries and donate them to the local parishes to hand out to folks who couldn’t afford to buy them. They never asked my religious affiliation, and I didn’t say.
@ vagabond trader:
Me too VT – some of my gay friends also find joining the military unappealing without the dont tell clause.
@ Grimcargo:
Hey you are entitled to your view and it’s always welcomed here. I see that you are viewing this from a Constitutional point and not a Progressive. There are many Libertarian and Conservative-Constitutionalists who hold your same view.
vagabond trader wrote:
About a year ago,I was side by side with a gay man who later died for the UNITED STATES. And actually I was probadly side by side with more and didnt even know it. I’m very sure the fringe who are out there (folsom Street) who make people measure all the gay people by that. Not convinced folsom street was all about gays anyhow.
@ bellamags:
Yes I agree. Notice atheists never attack Islam. They only attacks Christianity. Interesting, isn’t it?
Beltfed wrote:
Try this one on for size…
CJ and Trout were out driving around town when they drove past a Taco Bell.
CJ, wow, I didn’t know they had their phone company.
I know… I’m a baaaaaddddd boy.
@ Rodan:
Thanks for that Rodan. I am a Conservative and used to be a liberterian with a small “L”
Rodan wrote:
Its because the Islamists attack Christianity. They are fighting the same battle.
Kali wrote:
In the absence of religion, athiests place their faith in temporal vessels, such as Obama, and defend their choice with a religious fervor.
It’s not atheism, but merely their choice of gods.
@ Grimcargo:
Actually most of the “Gay Agenda” is Progressive Causes using Gays as a weapon. In reality most of it is Anti-Gay since it creates them into a new victim group.
@ vagabond trader:
I think it all ties in.
@ bellamags:
Yes, in fact I have seen Atheists defend Islam on many occasions.
@ Grimcargo:
No doubt some gay rights activists sincerely believe that they want “equality” in being able to express their love and faithfulness under State administered oath. (And, of course, equality in being able to express resentment, infidelity and divorce with the State nullifying that oath).
The constitutional equality argument based on emotional expression is specious. It misunderstands the historical and cultural institution of marriage (which is also not about emotions). The legal rights argument may be satisfied with civil union laws.
When scrutinized, the equality argument can only be about equal recognition of anal and vaginal sex. (Buzzsawmonkey and I exchanged posts about this at the end of ‘defined terms dictionary’ blog). This is the essence of the equality claim, and the cultural fall-out of this instutionalized principle could be dire. Except that, for gay marriage even to be considered fit for institutionalizing, the culture has decayed a long way.
@ Grimcargo:
Its a damned shame we have discharged some fine Arabic translators from the military for being gay while we hang onto scum like the Jihadi.
I am not vehemently opposed to gay marriage,just dislike the tactics being employed.It is also not the most important issue we are facing at the moment imho.
Chuckles has been an anti-Catholic bigot for years. He allows the unemployed serial masturbator killgore trout to post the most vile anti catholic dreck.
but chuckles is quick to say nary a bad word about Hassan the jihadist.
what a vile creature is this chuckles the flabby pony tailed shut-in
@ bellamags:
It’s also because Christians don’t behead. I think there’s some affinity, but there’s also a huge helping of cowardice involved.
@ Overlook:
to further their own agenda. Look at how Obama threw them under the bus for a sinister purpose.
@ wolfie:
There have been times people did walk on other people’s values and this society has worked to right what was wrong. And, I’m sure there are other issues that need to be addressed. But it’s like everyone seems to feel they have a license to push their special values on people. Sometimes I wonder if it’s just some people’s way of getting attention.
Friday on Boortz’s radio show the ACLU was trying to stop Huckabee from being on his show to talk about his new Christmas book. ACLU said public airwaves shouldn’t be used to promote Christian idea.
Thankfully they were not successful. But it makes you wonder if these people are serious or just trying to get their name out there.
@ Doppelganger:
Speaking of shut in I’ve been trying to get myself out for a walk. Better do that now while its still nice outside.
C’ya later
@ MacDuff:
Ahem. Just a reminder that the some atheists – the best ones – are not leftists and do not despise religion. Carry on.
@ Rodan:
Exactly!
Rodan wrote:
Well put. I remember during one of the many news broadcasts about gay marriage they showed a video clip of two women getting married in a church in CA. The “brides” both wore tattered wedding gowns, no shoes, dead flowers as bouquets, their hair and makeup were a mess and they skipped down the isle. They were making a complete mockery of the ceremony. Again, I don’t have a problem with what anyone wants to do in the privacy of their own home, civil unions, if you want to marry your cat, etc. just don’t mock me or my beliefs. It is hate on THEIR part.
@ Overlook:
When scrutinized, the equality argument can only be about equal recognition of anal and vaginal sex
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Well whomever believes anal and vaginal sex applies only to gay people is way old fashioned and behind. Aside from saying that. I cannot speak from the head of a gay person.Nor would I ever try. So I don’t think it is factual nor fair to pinpoint their agenda.
Overlook wrote:
Point well made. Allow me to revise:
In the absence of religion, some athiests place their faith in temporal vessels, such as Obama, and defend their choice with a religious fervor.
It’s not particularly atheism, but merely their personal choice of gods.
chickadee wrote:
oh noes. must not focus og gays swinging from trees in tehran.
must focus on those caaaaaatholics stopping the free soup
@ bellamags:
LGF is now claiming Catholicism is the same as Islam!
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ha. please. isn’t that the same argument Hamas makes in gaza and Hezbollah makes in Beirut. not to get all bill maher-Ian, but I think it would be harder to do a third grade math problem than it would be to point out the similarities between the catholic church and radical Muslims.
Overlook wrote:
In which case, somebody with a chip on his shoulder is doing damage to those in the same groups without said chip. I think the grievance that people here have is the propensity of many atheists to have a chip on the shoulder.
@ vagabond trader:
Heck when I saw the first part of your post I thought you were talking about one of my horses. lol
Rodan wrote:
effing sick
Grimcargo wrote:
Let me straighten you out: vaginal is old fashioned, and anal is behind. K?
Doppelganger wrote:
Soon he will be using the Andrew Sullivanized term “Christianist”.
Hey Charles, I just taught my 3 year son how to make the Sign of the Cross. In English and in Latin.
In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. Amen.
We are a family of church going practicing Catholics. And proud of it.
You and your narrow-minded blog can take a flying leap at a rolling donut.
@ Rodan:
Oh man the dialogue over there has really tanked huh?
Yuh, Catholics are big into stoning and beheading adulterers.Then there are the gay lynchings off the back of Catholic Church utility trucks.///
newsjunkie_ky wrote:
I don’t know. Perhaps being a member of the In-Crowd at LGF is more important to her than anyhing else, and so she will overlook it or convince herself it’s not really anti-Catholic.
Perhaps she is just one of the many, many social “Catholics” who think that whenever the World and the Church conflict, the Church ought to be “more reasonable” and give in.
I do not recall her ever expressing a particularly Catholic point of view. Except of course in the anti-Creationist threads, where being Catholic, as opposed to being one of those despicable Evangelicals, was Approved. Indeed, CJ relied on reine heavily when he was pushing the partyline that he was not bashing Christians, just “Creationists.”
She fell for that like a ton of bricks and swooned with pleasure at being one of Chucky’s pointmen.
(I cannot judge her on this from a standpoint of righteousness, mind you. Even if I did NOT join in the bashing of Evangelicals, I kept my mouth shut and did not defend them as much as I should have. Nor did I admonish my fellow Catholics that what they were doing was wrong.)
Posters have my utmost respect! How you can read, write and keep up with the conversation is remarkable to me.
I love to read you netizens of Blogmocracy.
snork wrote:
Maybe I don’t need straitening out. Me thinks you missed something.
newsjunkie_ky wrote:
Oh that Belle from Baton Rouge (I saw her Facebook page) will rationalize it. She has already surrender3d to Liberalism.
Kali wrote:
And I love your icon.
@ Doppelganger:
You are absolutely right about that. His complete tolerance of KT’s bigotry is telling.
@ Kali:
We haz all teh mad political junkie skillz.
wolfie wrote:
Killgore must be in charge of Chuckie’ cookbooks.
@ Grimcargo:
LOL! You have Arabians? Beautiful creatures!
Kali wrote:
For me it’s read, write or keep up with the conversation.
It’s two out of three even on my good days.
@ Grimcargo:
Thank you!
Grimcargo wrote:
and what on Earth has that woman done to deserve such malignannt scorn? She has a fine marriage, good children, has a Down syndrome child, has remained married to the same man, loves this country, is pro Israel – wtf has she done selrahC to deserve such misogynist hatred?
Leadership by Example
@ Rodan:
Oh yeah, they’re exactly alike! Except for:
1. Islam embraces mass murder as a sacrament and Catholics are often the ones being murdered.
2. The catholic Church was instrumental in saving Wesern Civilization during the Dark Ages and Islam has been hell bent on destroying it.
3. The Vatican is the greatest repository of art in the world, while Islam routinely destroys art and artifacts that displease Muslims.
4. Jesus was a man of peace, Mohammed was a man of war.
Yep. Exactly the same.
ISLAM DELENDA EST
BBC NEWS
Dog lost in Afghan battle returns
A sniffer dog lost in battle in Afghanistan 14 months ago has turned up safe and well and rejoined its Australian unit.
Defence officials said Sabi the dog was recovered by a US soldier at an isolated patrol base.
The dog was returned to a celebrity welcome from visiting Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and US commander Gen Stanley McChrystal.
Sabi is being tested for disease before a possible return to Australia.
Hey Roden I thought you were going to post about this doggie.I have a soft spot for these dogs that serve over in the war zones. Not only have they saved lives physically but saved the mental health of many a soldier.
@ Grimcargo:
You apparently missed something.
Underzog wrote:
Oh occasionally we have the Nightly Nancey but not as often as before We will mention him only when he posts or says something so ridiculously over the top that we need a laugh out of it.
@ Speranza:
@ vagabond trader:
Sarah is holy water on demons.
My passion is Tennessee walkers but I do have two arabians and hope there might be a baby one soon. Oh yeah I do have a baby mule to.
@ Speranza:
Plus she has a much prettier ponytail.
@ snork:
ok then you got me.
@ vagabond trader:
Oh thems fightin’ words woman!
@ MacDuff:
There is, IMO, a huge difference between a-theism and anti-theism. Unfortunately, the anti-theists have hijacked the term.
This is one reason that, in my own functionally atheist days, I preferred the terms “agnostic” and “non-believer.”
(The other reason was my concession that the question of God’s existence or non-existence was not subject to either empirical or logical proof.)
Does the Catholic church have leverage here? The social justice mechanism is more than willing to take their place as a secular religion and arbiter of service to the poor and oppressed.
vagabond trader wrote:
Ponytail, family, and life in general!
Thought I’d work on that for you
The opinions of Charles Johnson and his cult are without any value.
He’s proven to be a un-objective blogger and his followers are a gang of thuggish lemmings.
Move on.
Move up.
Now, about that apologist “0″(pronounced zero) in the White House….
Start working TODAY to get him OUT!
@ Grimcargo:
How nice, all wonderful animals!
Once Charles lost his good posters, the smallness and meanness at 1.0 became more apparent. It was just being hidden by the good level of discourse. Once that was banned there was nothing postive for the lizards to build on. Iceweasel the foundation of a blog? lol that would be a great laugh.
@ m:
Uh-oh am I causing trouble again ?
@ Underzog:
This is my favorite place to keep track of his downfall. About a month or so he was ranked in the 8000s.
http://www.quantcast.com/littlegreenfootballs.com
@ Grimcargo:
The exercise I indulged in was cultural archeology – finding the shard of significance in the pile of earth. It helps to focus on the cultural essentials of a political agenda, especially when the agenda pretends to facts and fairness.
If you are suggesting that I am old-fashioned because you believe that I do not know that even married couples can perform non-procreative sexual acts, then I can assure you I am quite with-it. And I did not have to read Kinsey for information.
My analysis has nothing to do with disapproval of consensual couplings.
The only difference between homosexual and heterosexual copulation – and it is copulation that is culturally legitimized by marriage (yes, I know, less and less so) – that would receive societal acceptance by extending marriage to homosexuals, would be anal versus vaginal penetration. Like Queen Victoria, the culture may happily dismiss lesbian sex.
Howls of protest go up when this view is expressed, but not from militant gays. Only from the bien pensant liberal, who sees gay marriage as another opportunity to show off his tolerance, does one find hostility to the view that gay marriage is about normalizing carnality.
BuddyG wrote:
That picture is illustrative of the difference between Christianity/Catholicism and Islam; the concept of forgiving one’s enemies.
Which brings up an interesting question: Do the words “forgive” or “forgiveness” even appear in the Koran?
If the Catholic Church was the “same as Islam” then Mehmet Ali Ağca would be dead. Instead, he was forgiven by his shooting victim; the Pope.
By contrast when Salmon Rushdie wrote a book that mocked islam,
Ayatollah Khomeini issued a death sentence fatwa against him.
Afternoon folks,
Fourth day in a row of nasty weather.
Someone send some sun soon?
vagabond trader wrote:
BGot to take off. Hope I didnt offend anyone. Everyone have a great evening.
vagabond trader wrote:
One of the many reasons I luv ya! ~:D
@ Rightside:
Hi Rightside. Tomorrow is supposed to be clearing here in the northeast. You guys were hammered?
31 states have had a chance to vote on gay marriage. All 31 have rejected it. The states where it is legal have not had a ballot question – the courts or the legislature have made it law.
If Charles has such a beef with people who are not for gay marriage he should move to MA, VT, CT or IA and not live in CA where the people have spoken.
Speranza wrote:
Excellent question. I think they recognize the threat she represents to the success of their progressive agenda. They see and feel her popularity with the American public. There hasn’t been anyone on the political scene with her charism since Reagan and look how successful he was in kicking their lib asses down the stairs. She is such a huge threat to them. It drives them crazy. They bash her for qualities (patriotism, family values, christian values) that most of us find admirable. That tells you all you want to know abt. the fcking left.
@ snork:
Let the chips fall where they may.
In my view atheism is not an ideology which can be the basis of group identity.
It is true that many socialists and leftists have forged a militant, political atheism as a weapon in their anti-Western cultural war.
‘Was raining all morning, but the sun just came out…..there’s an off season south swell, so I’m going to go get wet.
Maybe buy a gun this afternoon……….
@ IslandLibertarian:
Two worthy pursuits. Just don’t take the weapon in the water.
loppydIf Charles has such a beef with people who are not for gay marriage he should move to…
The
VillageLizard PeopleMacDuff wrote:
Actually, I answered my own question. It does appear, but a quick glance through the verses where it does, it’s always in the context of God’s forgiveness.
I haven’t searched it all (one can take only so much), but in the context of man’s forgiveness of man, it doesn’t seem to be there.
@ m:
Likewise m,good to see ya!
@ Grimcargo:
I am a massage therapist and had the pleasure of watching another therapist do bodywork on a horse. It was the coolest thing ever. The horse LOVED it. Leaned in to the pressure, breathing was heavy and even, totally relaxed. The energy was great. When the therapist and I first arrived, the horse recognized the therapist from across the barn. Its eyes got bright and was making all kinds of noises because it was so happy to see us coming !! Totally cute. I would love to do it, but I don’t have the strength anymore. 15 years of practice has taken its toll.
@ vagabond trader:
Was drizzly here today, but steady rain Weds through Fri.
I’ll feel like a mole when the sun comes back out
BuddyG wrote:
He would fit in perfectly in Cambridge. They are mean, militant and the bike riders have more rights than car drivers.
@ Overlook:
The Left is purely negative and destructive now. They and their allies are united in what they hate.
@ Overlook:
But it’s not really about carnality, because marriage don’t confer any such rights. That was decided when the anti-sodomy laws were overturned. The right to engage in any an all carnal acts exists without any sanction. Gay marriage is exclusively about other things, and so is heterosexual marriage.
@ MacDuff:
“3. The Vatican is the greatest repository of art in the world, while Islam routinely destroys art and artifacts that displease Muslims.”
You are culturally insensitive to the glorious mastery of bathroom tile-work and calligraphy that you see in those awesome mosques (once Christian cathedrals). Also you have forgotten those exquisite Persian miniatures. Not to mention the great Islamic heritage of religious music.
@ Rightside:
I feel bad for you. It reached above 70 here today in the Pittsburgh area. Beautiful weather. God is blessing the Steelers maybe????
@ Overlook:
Omg. I can’t stop laughing.
@ MacDuff:
Yes, the word “forgive” is in the Koran but actions speak louder than words. Consider Pope John Paul II’s example to that of Ayatollah Khomeini.
And there’s another point that one can safely mock or criticize Christianity.
(Life of Brian movie, DaVinci Code book, Piss Christ photo, Madonna hanging from cross, etc)
But one cannot safely mock or criticize Islam.
(Salmon Rushdie Satanic Verses book, Theo Van Gogh murder, Danish cartoon riots, 2006 Pope remarks riots)
Christianity and islam are not the same.
Sorry Charles (and Rosie O’Donnell) (and leftists in general)
MacDuff wrote:
This explains why they are such good grudge holders, And so patient, biding their time to exact revenge. Or hold the infidel accountable, They have no concept of forgiveness.
chickadee wrote:
Yeah, and it makes violence an acceptable form of persuasion.
Any Catholics on 1.0 who stay ( reine de tout, I mean you ) are like the Concentration camp Kapos
@ NoThreat2U:
Well, it is helping knock down the leaves more quickly. It takes til Dec. sometimes before our trees are bare.
Can’t complain too much!
OT:Just when you thought the assinine news of the week was over and its only Saturday.Yup,forget about investigating the Ft. Hood jihad but lets bring jihadi mass murdering terrorists to NYC as civilians protected by OUR Constitution.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/14/obama-urges-congress-to-p_n_357864.html
@ Overlook:
And I rejoice in my insensitivity!
As for the “Persian Miniatures”, you are right, I did forget what a piece of work Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was….but I wouldn’t exactly call him a work of art.
What I would really like to see is the resurrection of Persia. Bring back Zoroastrianism!
I would also like a garage with some a/c storage attached, a new refrigerator, a Ferrari for Mr. Wolf, and about 10 billion dollars.
Not being picky or demanding, you can just give me the last item.
@ Doppelganger:
Same with Jews afaic.
@ Rightside:
\_/ Well here’s to hoping you get some weather like mine!
@ vagabond trader:
Did you read the comments? Makes me feel smart.
@ vagabond trader:
Constant chaos! Rush is right, it penetrates all that liberals do.
Overlook wrote:
It was so heartbreaking to see the Muslim barbarians destroy those ancient sandstone Buddhist statues in Afghanistan. An incredible world treasure blown up because of the intolerant ROP.
@ chickadee:
Change!
(Just wait until they get their hands on the Sistine Chapel. At the rate the West is going, I fear that it’s only a matter of time.)
Johnson had a mental meltdown after his mother’s medical condition worsened. He showed a rather twisted conception of christianity during her illness. like many smogesbord christians he was into the …. I’ll be nice as long as god does what i want Him to do for me and my family. When CJ didn’t get his way he spat the dummy and did an immediate volte face and went hard atheist. Typical of his generation, everything was narcissistic focused and what he could get out of God. Alas God doesn’t do deals like that but CJ couldn’t see past his own nose and turned feral.
As for the gentleman from NY.:-
Jim Graham (D-Ward 1), one of two openly gay members of the council, said Thursday morning that he hoped to reach a compromise with the Church. He noted that it is a major provider of services for immigrants in his ward.
Being of a ‘progressive’ persuasion this guy obviously doesn’t understand that people and institutions like the Catholic Church actually have principles that they DO NOT COMPROMISE. Leftist trolls such as Mr. Graham lack even the notion of principles as their moral underpinnings are free do drift in a sea of moral and philosophical relativism. He obviously is naive enough to actually believe that the Catholic Church can and will compromise its principles. How can one even have a logical conversation with a person such as Graham if he doesn’t even understand this basic philosophy?
As for the rest of Graham’s rant:-
Late Thursday, however, Graham said he had changed his mind after reviewing same-sex marriage laws in New Hampshire, Connecticut and Vermont. He asked why the Church has not abandoned services in those states.
“If the Catholic Church has been able to adjust in Connecticut, I think they can certainly adjust here,” Graham said.
If Graham was being truthful rather than just attempting to score cheap rhetorical debating points he would have admitted that the Catholic clergy in the NE of the US are under threat from the vatican to clean up their ‘local act’! Rather than causing a local altercation with uber-liberal members of Catholic clergy the Vatican has taken it’s usual long-view stance and allowed time and age to do their work instead of causing a massive upheaval in church circles locally. The liberal leftist revolutionary clergy of the 1960s are being replaced slowly by young active clergy with very strong traditional religious formation. The Catholic Church usually takes the pragmatic line when it comes to getting rid of rogue clergy, such as exists in Ct. Retirement and death sorts out the problem as the vatican trains up the next generation of clergy and rolls hack the rot of former years. That tactic has worked for 2000 years and seems to still work today.
Long after the corrupt and valueless clergy and the Jim Grahams of this world are feeding the worms the Catholic Church will still be there .
Iron Fist wrote:
Charles is only pro-gay marriage because it is his last chance of conceiving a child and carrying it to term.
@ Kali:
Thank you, Kali.
@ Grimcargo sez “whomever believes anal and vaginal sex applies only to gay people is way old fashioned and behind.”
I sez, “Stop with the straight lines already.”
Chucky’s Baptism
As a Catholic, I am ever thankful when the members of the Catholic Faith stand up for the Truth. One can disagree with what the Catholic Church regards as Truth, but you cannot make us adopt your version of Truth. Marriage is between a man and a woman. The Church must take stands on issues which form the foundation of our Faith. In my view, leaders have often abrogated their responsibility to speak out. The Notre Dame scandal, Edward Kennedy’s fawning and the covering up of the Cross at Georgetown are some examples where the sheep are being led astray. Make no mistake about it, there is Truth in the world, his name is Jesus Christ, and he is to be proclaimed -not watered down. For those who wish to take shots at the Catholic Faith, such attacks say more about your own disorientation on what is truth than it reflects on the Truth itself. As Catholics, we just need to remember to not lose hope in fighting the good fight. In the end, when the smoke of battle clears, and time gives way to eternity, to those who have heard His voice and followed Him, we will hear the words: “Welcome! Welcome my good and faithful sevant, welcome and enter into the joy of your Master’s house!”
@ snork:
“But it’s not really about carnality, because marriage don’t confer any such rights. [1] That was decided when the anti-sodomy laws were overturned. [2] The right to engage in any an all carnal acts exists without any sanction. [3] Gay marriage is exclusively about other things, and so is heterosexual marriage. [4].
Starting at the end and going backwards:
4. Everything marriage was traditionally about – patriarchy, property (patrimony, primogeniture), kinship – has been superseded by other legal arrangements. As a part of the traditional complicated arrangement of relations, marriage promoted the fidelity of the woman to the man to guard the purity of his blood line. All this has changed, with the changing nature of society. Insofar as certain privileges were obtained ‘automatically’ in traditional marriage without legal specification by virtue of the marriage oath, these can be legally obtained through civil unions. The things that marriage are “about” now – or that people claim marriage is about – do not require a state-administered oath. Marriage as a secular institution is not necessary for any couplings. So why do gays want it?
I ask you to enumerate the things that gay marriage and hetero marriage are “exclusively” about, that require a state oath?
3. Quite. People do it without state sanction.
1. Traditionally marriage did not confer a right to sex, it legitimized the offspring of the man and woman in wedlock. The woman was the vessel for patriarchal seed. Marriage allowed the vessel to be exclusively for one man’s seed. Copulation – vaginal sex – was taken for granted.
2. Anti-sodomy laws were a religious enshrining of the taboo against wasted seed. The culture gave up on enforcing that or believing in it.
1. All the cultural significance of marriage as an institution has gone now from the secular point of view, and increasingly from all but the orthodox religious point of view.
So why gay marriage? If the cultural institution were looked at coldly, the only reason for gays to demand entry into the institution of marriage (not gay civil unions, or gay sex) is that gays desire their copulation to be taken for granted – accepted as normal. That is the only point of difference that may be discerned between what “marriage” can offer, and what civil unions or living together can offer. Being able to wear rings, or give public hugs, or display photos of the beloved are proxies for this central idea, but every one of these actions can be and are indulged in.
Where modern marriage may indeed not be about carnality for heterosexual couples, it is about just that for homosexual ones.
Well,
I just came upon this website a few weeks ago. I’m glad I’m not alone in wondering what-in-the-hell happened to LGF. What a waste of talent.
Nice to see what is happening here.
Let’s Roll!
LOL,quick before Google purges this:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/11/who-is-failure-obama-if-you-do-a-google-search.html
@ Lets Roll:
Welcome! We are the unLGF.
Is this the College football thread? I saw ‘Catholic’ and assumed Notre Dame.
OSU 24
Iowa 17
@ wright1:
Than you very much!
I will always defend the Catholic faith as my Spanish Ancestors did.
Do mosques have to pay taxes. Are they ALL recognized as legit…even the ones that spring up in storefronts? Are they avoiding paying taxes to the infidel by hiding behind their “religious” status?
Just wondering. This thread got my brain working.
@ BenZacharia:
Yes College is allowed here, this can be a open thread. Charles is not an important person. I just had to call out Anti-Catholicism when I see it.
Overlook wrote:
Not really. It’s about, as you say, normalization and legitimatizing it. But it really won’t do that. Those who think it normal and legitimate already do, and those who don’t aren’t going to change their minds because of a court ruling or a statute. It’s a plastic victory, if a victory at all.
I never thought it was about having it, it was always about pursuing it. That give activists purpose.
High Costs Weigh on Troop Debate for Afghan War
Well isn’t that just dandy. We’ve spent all of our money in bailout schemes, tripling the deficit in just one year. Oh, and we have that nationalization of our Health Care system looming in the futuure.
No money left to support and reinforce our troops in Afghanistan, even though it was such a priority during the campaign.
Sorry, troops, your President may, or may not, support you. We’ll check the balance sheet and see what’s left. Hang in there, we’ll get back with you.
What an absolute friggin’ loser.
@ Overlook:
Ther are no sexual proscriptions* in the Tenahk concerning marriage. So your ‘wasted seed’ stand is from the mind of men, not G-d.
*As in all things concerning permitted practices the overriding principle of moderation. Drinking = good/Pro. 31, being drunk = bad/various.
@ snork:
Do not disagree with that. Thank you for the conversation. Sadly, I must go.
TD called back.
@ snork:
I’ve never had any problem with “civil unions”. Marriage? No way. Maybe it’s about semantics, but words must mean things and civil unions and marriage are simply not the same thing.
Wonder if Hussein will do a shout out to his old mosque while in Asia.
VT
MBLE (Mabel) the Maine Coon is now twice the size of my avatar.
@ BenZacharia:
Awwww, they are wonderful kittehs. Bless her.
Their gonna tie it up phooeey
tied
MacDuff wrote:
He is an absolute friggin’ loser.
He doesn’t care about our military. After all, our troops are over there killing Muslims.
BenZacharia wrote:
This is true. The church – and consequently western society – picked up on the punishment of Onan and assumed that it was a proscription of masturbation and “wasted seed” as you and overlook have put it, but it was nothing of the sort (in actual fact it was the avoidance of his obligations to provide his dead brother’s wife with a child in order to secure the brother’s family line by “spilling seed”. The act of spilling itself wasn’t the problem, the fact that he did it in order to get his brother’s inheritance was). Unfortunately that belief has deeply penetrated western society and still leads to all sorts of stupid and unnecessary conflicts.
@ archonix:
Always got a chuckle out of the ‘sin of Onan’ bit, complete misapplication of scripture into a major doctrine. Not the only, but a funny one.
I guess that means less hot meals and more MRE’s for my upcoming deployment (4th in 6 years). When does thar slow boat to Afghan leave. I’m sure the cost of jet fuel is going up every day. I really hate this SOB. My Brothers/Sisters in harms way deserve so much more than this. At least I get to retired when I get back. (if)
@ chickadee:
Spending all of our money on turning America into a socialist society instead of our military weakens us. Killing two birds with one stone if you will.
@ MacDuff:
You’re just illustrating my point. The time for persuasion is over. Changing the law won’t changing anyone’s minds, and the distinction between calling it one thing and calling it another is just semantics.
There’s nothing, in practical terms, to be gained by calling it “marriage”. The whole controversy is just a pissing match about who gets to hold a scalp in the air, and nothing more.
BenZacharia wrote:
I never understood that, either. What’s masturbation got to do with generators? Something to do with cummins?
Someone just posted this on FB:
Islam’s 20 year plan for America.
@ Tanker:
Please remove your “if”. You WILL be back. You were trained in one of the best military forces on earth. Have faith…I do.
@ bellamags:
http://www.sodahead.com/religion/islams-20-year-plan-for-america/blog-118695/
Tanker wrote:
Which, of course, has everything to do with the deficit spending. The porkulus not only displaces money for the military budget, but it’s increasing the basic cost structure, as well by tanking the currency.
At this point, I’d take Carter back.
Tanker
Combat slot?
@ NoThreat2U:
I do believe in and have faith in not one of the best, but the “BEST” military in the world. It’s the leadership (civilian) as in congress/Obamoa I have little faith in. OH…the (if) at the end of my post was a typo. I was going to say if my wife has her say about my retirement, but left it out.
In OT Its’ OSU
Tanker wrote:
I can imagine how bad troop morale is there while Zero dithers, spending money on ‘cash for clunkers’ and stimulus for Acorn. He is endangering their lives. I wonder when we will see military recruitment drop. Something he would consider an accomplishment. Take good care when you go over, Tanker.
@ Tanker:
OK, that makes me feel better
Five straight BIG TEN Champs
@ BenZacharia:
Yes, I’m a M1A2 Tanker/Master Gunner MSG, but I’m heading over as just another grunt this tour. Duel MOS and all. Not many tanks being using over there now.
Tanker
Wasn’t sure if Tanker refered to your slot or your drinking method.
@ snork:
Scary thought, that. But so would I.
@ BenZacharia:
Now that really made me laugh, Thanks! I guess it could apply either way though!
227. BenZ
Following the game on ESPN Gamecast, but I think you are definitely several minutes ahead. Whats the scoop?
Name a world leader, past or present, that has hated the USA as much as teh 0.
228. Tanker
Ah, the joys of a dual MOS. How old are you, if I may ask?
@ BenZacharia:
As bad as Carter was, I don’t think he was as bad as teh 0.
bellamags wrote:
Everything listed, they are engaging in now.
We need an education blitzkrieg on Islam. And we need to block them from coming here.
They get more radical every generation.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
51 with 29 yrs in.
@ bellamags:
Hey I have a positive story coming up at 7:30 EST/4:30 PST. It’s the one on Sabi the Black Lab.
@ Tanker:
Good luck over there and spread the word about this blog. As you see we are Pro-Military with many active and retired on here.
OT: Obama proved Charles ‘Icarus’ Johnson to be a liar again by bowing low to the Emperor of Japan. The LA TIMES also includes a photograph of Obama bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia in this article (to show that bowing to the Emperor of Japan wasn’t the first time that Obama had bowed to royalty from another country):
How low will he go? Obama gives Japan’s Emperor Akihito a wow bow
This LA TIMES article also shows a photo of Vice President Cheney appropriately standing straight up while shaking hands with this same Emperor of Japan.
The LA TIMES:
Charles lied through his teeth when he claimed that Obama wasn’t bowing.
Charles has OSS: Obama Sycophant Syndrome.
237. Tanker
Wow, active duty that long? You ever think about putting your paperwork in and getting a nice contracting or GS job?
@ Rodan:
Will do, and I hope to be able to get on here from time to time with some updates. Will be heading out on 17 Dec.
On second thought, let’s make it OPS: Obama Psychophant Syndrome.
Insult or compliment?
Japan has Obama toilet paper
bellamags wrote:
Found these 2 articles from the link that your link came from. UN and the climate change bullshit from 2007 I think.
http://www.sullivan-county.com/nf0/nov_2000/ap_adam.htm
http://www.sullivan-county.com/nf0/nov_2000/philo1.htm
@ Tanker:
Best wishes over there and thanks so much for your service!!
BA
OSU by 3 in OT
Good evening, y’all.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
I think my wife and a good friend of mine (some would know him from the old days at the other place) has that in mine for me when I get back.
@ Rodan:
So you’re planning on wrecking everybody’s bad mood by posting a happy story?
How inconsiderate!
So CJ has hit bottom and digs? He will finally find bedrock when he throws Israel under the bus.
SADM
Bedrock won’t stop him.
mfhorn wrote:
Brilliant. You just keep wiping and wiping thinking that the face of obama is more poo on the paper
@ BenZacharia:
Right. He just may consider the ‘digging’ a right of passage in attempt to reclaim his liberal roots, and is so doing, find favor with those kindred spirits he bashed for so many years under the guise as a pseudo conservative, as far as his blog went back then when it was really popular.
He needs a bigger shovel and more dynamite.
BenZ
Thanks! BTW- check your email.
249. Tanker
Take care of yourself and thank you for your service. Do think about a career change when you get back– good men are hard to find in the private sector as well!
I like the trend of 1.0 visits.
In the last 6 months it’s going
Down
Down
Down
and 3% of visitors account for 49% of the visits……killgore, sharmuta iceweasel and hoosier hoops?
wow chuckles, you really know how to kill a blog
Wow, the intellect and knowledge at 1.0 keeps sinking. I doubt any Constitutionalists are left at 1.0. Definitely the Exodus of studied people in religion, history, government functions, science and culture is complete.
I’m waiting for the first progressive moron at 1.0,after seeing 2012, explain how our cows and farting farmers will cause the sun to get spots and retaliate.
waldensianspirit wrote:
But they have a genius over there.
Da_Beerfreak @ 93:
Ah ha, the old Taco joke,
@ vagabond trader:
What you don’t hear in those MSM reports on the subject is that they were discharged by choice, usually shortly before graduating from language training.
The military doesn’t go out searching for homosexual activity among its troops (that would be the “don’t ask” part).
@ Overlook:
I can see where you’re coming from; I have a similar analysis:
The whole gay rights movement centers around what someone likes to do in the bedroom, which is something people ordinarily are supposed to keep quiet about anyway.
Said someone at LGF:
I don’t know if I need this disclaimer or not to make my message more credible, but I am not a Roman Catholic.
I am a female who belongs to a denomination that is against female clergy and that teaches the old chestnut about ‘the man being the head of the household.’
Despite what my denomination teaches on the topic, I tend to agree with the Christian gender egalitarians myself, rather than the traditional gender role advocates, but I would not be so intellectually dishonest, underhanded, and smarmy as to equate Christian gender traditionalists with the religious groups that routinely practice and condone the stoning to death of women and rape victims and that kind of thing (such as some Muslims do).
@ MacDuff:
Which brings up an interesting question: Do the words “forgive” or “forgiveness” even appear in the Koran?
Speaking of forgiveness: islam for kids.
@ MacDuff:
Even mohamet wasn’t sure if he was going to heaven or hell.
@ chickadee:
The taliban said people care about statues but not feeding children & I thought, they could have made money charging tourists to see those statues.
@ BenZacharia:
God got mad at Onan, though.
@ Eliana:
So then he’s OSSified.
Moving right along…
Excepting a couple, I do not even recognize the posters at LGF.
Macker wrote:
You mean dumba$$ muthaf*cka?
@ lobo91:
Same could be said for Hasan,blatantly proclaiming himself a soldier of allah to any within earshot, but in his case, crickets.
Charles becomes more of an ass on a daily basis. I refuse to ever go to his site. Haven’t for weeks–won’t give him the clicks.
Disappointed that so many ‘nice people’ stayed, especially some catholics.
You know who you are!
Iron Fist wrote:
Well, I’m pro-gay marriage, and I am neither a Democrat nor a Hussein voter (he’s not MY president).
It’s absurd to say that someone who disagrees with the median Democratic voter should need to move to Canada.
Why is it that any time gay issues are addressed here, the average IQ drops 50 points?
Isn’t the real outrage here that selrahc is condemning the Catholic Church for not kowtowing to a governmental entity regarding Catholic doctrine? The Church evidently not only ministers to gays but hires them. The Church is not OBLIGATED to use its resources in a way that pleases temporal leaders. It is not a wallet owned by the DC politicos.
I hope DC backs off this outrage. It could easily have exempted the church from this law, but it chose not to because of its OWN governmental “doctrine.”
So charailes, ze seempleton zat he is, sinks zere would and should be no reactions to laws passed against othairs beleifs?
He ez ze first to ban anyones who does not sink as him. He ez ze asshole, yes?
@ Eliana:
That is a nice picture. It appears that the president has dropped his lighter, again.
who is this “charles” person anyway? I seem to remember someone named charles who ran a great blog years ago, but at some point it all just faded away, sort of like Bon Jovi. Does he still have a blog? I can’t be bothered to look.