As many of you have probably already heard, the Obama administration has decided to make international waves about the decision of the Jerusalem municipality in Israel to approve an additional 900 housing units in Gilo, which is within Jerusalem city limits. Somehow, a municipal decision to approve housing units in the capitol of its country becomes an international incident. Only in Israel!
This is typical. I am going to not lay all the blame on Obama here, and it must be noted that Condi Rice had made similar such statements in the past. As is typical, J Street supported Obama, and is against the additional housing in Gilo. (shocka!)
The common theme is that somehow it is “anti-human rights” for Jews to build homes, kindergartens, and nurseries in their capitol city of Jerusalem, which is, lest we forget, the holiest city for Jews, and the city that every observant Jew prays to on a daily basis. (Can you imagine the USA telling Saudi Arabia that it cannot build more housing units for Muslims in Mecca? Enough said!)
But here is the little wrinkle to the story that the mainstream media usually leaves out: Arabs can buy land in Jewish areas. Not only can they buy land – they actually do buy land in Jewish neighborhoods.
Here are just two examples of Jewish neighborhoods in Jerusalem where Arabs feel free to buy and sell land as they see fit – Pisgat Ze’ev and French Hill. In fact, Arabs buy and sell land anywhere they want in Israel, including Tel Aviv!
Here is an article by reputed scholar Alex Safian about the ability of Arabs to buy and sell land in all parts of Israel, written in 1997. The restrictions to land purchase only have decreased, to the extent they existed in 1997, due to the liberal Supreme Court of Israel! Right now there are reports of Gulf Arabs buying of land in Israel located in the Galilee. This flies in the face of the supposedly ‘racist’ and ‘discriminatory’ land policies in Israel. Actually, the real racists are from Peace Now. They actually sued to prevent Jews from buying land in Jaffa, Israel, which is indisputably part of the 1967 borders of Israel. Arabs – they can buy land wherever they want (with the understanding that most land is state-owned, but I use the term “buy” and “long-term lease” interchangeably, as far as this goes). But according to Peace Now (a misnomer of a term if I ever heard it – they are anti-peace, as I previously discussed), Jews cannot buy land in Jaffa, because it is an Arab neighborhood, which must be ‘respected.’ (yet Jewish neighborhoods disrespected, of course – this is a one-way street!) Thankfully, Peace Now lost their case before the Israeli Supreme Court. Interesting, I came across this article, which clearly peddled the lame line that if Jews move into an Arab neighborhood of Jaffa, then it will “incite” violence. So Jews should not have the right to live there. This clearly follows the “noble savage” line of thinking – that somehow Arabs who live in Jaffa are not human beings, but rather are beasts, who are incapable of anything but violence, so you should not provoke the noble beasts! As I said – Peace Now, J Street and their ilk – they really are racist!
Meanwhile, we deal with the reality that if Arabs sell land to Jews, they could be slaughtered. I am not just making this up. There have been cases of Arabs being killed for selling land to Jews. And so this also colors land claims – of course Arabs will deny they sold land to Jews, because to do anything us puts their very lives in jeopardy! Also – in Jordan – and throughout the Mideast – it is against state law for a Jew to own land in the country. (yet no “human rights organizations” seem to have problems with this, of course!) Here is a CAMERA primer on the law concerning land purchase and use. It is a must-read to understand the basic law in the region!
What is the lesson to be learned about this all? I would say that it is racist for Obama (and previously, Condi Rice) to make an “international incident” over 900 homes in Gilo. As I have extensively shown, Arabs have the right to buy and sell land throughout all of Israel. It is clearly racist to tell Jews – and only Jews – that they must be ghettoized, and cannot enjoy such similar rights.
As I have outlined, Peace Now is tied in very closely (joined at the hip, if you will) to the progressive movement. They (and J Street, also, as I have outlined, a progressive organization) are thus supporting racism.
It is because I reject racism and support equality and human rights that I support Israel and reject the progressive view of the world that ghettoizes the Jew, and turns Arabs “noble savages.” I expect more for humanity and the world!
Tags: Barack Obama, CAMERA, Condi Rice, Gilo, Human Rights, J Street, Jaffa, Jerusalem, Peace Now, Progressives
There’s only one reason to insist that East Jerusalem be Judenrein; they expect to “negotiate” it away to the PA.
The Jews should just push the Palestinians out and take the land that the Lord promised them, and tell O to go pound sand.
Israel can do no right in the world’s eyes. Everyone forgets the incredible restraint they showed in Gulf War I when they were fired upon night after night by Saddam Hussein and never fired back, because they were very aware of the tenuous relationship the West had with the Saudis in allowing the base in Riyad (?) to turn back the invasion of Kuwait.
Anyone else would have told the U.N. and the West to go pound sand.
Snork – I LOVE your icon, as an aside!
Dear leader views the Jewish people and Israel through a secular lens…
@ davehm:
Amazing how we both came up with “pound sand” while we were typing at the same time.
Never forget that “traditionally Arab East Jerusalem” (according to the MSM) was:
1) The only Jerusalem there was until Jewish immigration caused “West Jerusalem” to be built;
2) The home of a majority-Jewish population for as far back as modern population records were kept, except for
3) The 19 years of illegal Jordanian occupation following the 1948 War of Independence, during which time the entire Jewish population of the Old City was killed or expelled, and their property expropriated; and
4) During which time the Jordanians refused to honor, and the UN reneged on enforcing, the “international guarantees” that holy places in the Old City would be freely accessible by all faiths.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Thank you – your comment is very important, and also key to understanding the conflict!
If you think the muslim’s are upset about settlements…wait until Israel builds a certain temple on a certain piece of land that’s currently home to a certain mosque…
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Buzz, I left you a post 2 threads over.
@ S the Elder:
That is going to be huge! And their ready, I went to the temple institute over in Jerusalem and they have everything in place.
@ Carolina Girl:
In hindsight now that was a mistake. If our “allies” (who were scared shitless of Saddam’s war machine) demanded that we force Israel to set there and get hit, then fuck ‘em. We spent too much effort to build a super huge “coalition” as though the American Military wasn’t the steel hand we were going to use to force submission in the war. Some “allies” aren’t worht having at any price, and ohers are too expensive. We had both with us during the Gulf War. We took too long building up this last time (I suspect that huge stockpiles of WMD fled Iraq for Syria), but at least we didn’t sacrifice the war on the alter of “coalition building”.
I would add two other things:
1) The designations of “Jewish Quarter,” “Arab Quarter,” etc., in the Old City are not things of great antiquity. These “quarters” were instituted by the British during the post-WWI British Mandate, as a means of dividing and ruling the fractious population.
2) During the 19 years of illegal Jordanian occupation, synagogues, study houses and cemeteries were systematically desecrated by the Jordanians, with synagogues used as stables and headstones for paving and latrine linings. Contrast this with the Israeli decision to permit the Waqf to retain control of the Temple Mount.
@ davehm:
Yes, I saw it.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
And another thing!!/////
Great post!!! Excellent ammunition to use against the anti-”settlement” people I run into.
One minor and mostly irrelevant quibble: The idea of the “noble savage,” as popularized by Rousseau, emphasizes the nobility, not the savagery of primitives. That is, it assumes that simple, uncivilized people are superior and less “savage,” violent, and cruel because are in tune with Nature and they have not been corrupted by social institutions. (The word “savage” as Rousseau used it was fairly neutral and just meant wild or primitive.)
The “noble savage” stuff is a very popular notion on the Left, but I think what we’re dealing with in this case is “the bigotry of low expectations.” We assume the Palestinians are unredeemable barbarians who cannot be expected to behave decently, so we make special exceptions for them. And as you say, that is extremely racist, just as the restrictions on Jewish land tenure are racist.
Once again, PC makes a hash of true justice and equality under the law.
@ davehm:
that’s why I made the comment that BHO views Israel through a secular lens…he just doesn’t understand. You could call him Ismael…
@ wolfie:
Thank you for the useful clarity! I agree with you, and you are right!
@ S the Elder:
Well he certainly aligns himself with the descendants of Ishmael.
Build Baby Build
@ buzzsawmonkey:
That 19-year period is what all tradition is built on.
There’s a curious similarity in the cherry-picking of time segments that goes on in Israeli history and climate science. If you get to decide beginning and end dates, you can prove pretty much anything you wish.
Essentially, they’re arguing that that 19 years is the baseline of history, and all other times were aberrations.
PC is poison.
Let me boil this down to a few simple facts
Fact 1. Israel is here
Fact 2. Israel is not going to go anywhere
Fact 3. O, & the “FAKESTINIANS DEAL WITH IT.
One more thing, about that site on the hill, you have only a short amount of time before the real owners evict you and that phony mosque.
@ wolfie:
PC is the intellectual Kool-aid of the new millennia.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
So the Israelis got the moral high ground, and the waqf got the physical high ground. Who got the better end of that deal?
Leftists appear to be quite similar the world over. Choose a preferred victim and proceed to use said victims for propaganda purposes.Nothing to do with empathy or justice. Embrace your victims with the bigotry of diminished expectations. Nothing new under the sun. Control and power.
At least someone has a building boom going on, go Israel!!!
You know what? I’d love it if I never had to post this again:
The Mosque Upon the Mount
Mohammed rode the night horse, or so the Muslims say
Mohammed rode the night horse to a mosque so far away
And his followers the Muslims, coming after his death, claim
That the mosque upon the Mount is the mosque the Koran names.
Never mind the mosque upon the Mount was never even there
At the time Mohammed–so they claim–took his ride in the air.
Never mind the mosque upon the Mount was built in later days–
Mere factual reality did ne’er a Muslim faze.
Broadcast on Al-jazeera, in the seething Arab street,
Are echoed calls to Muslims that they must not retreat
That they must not cede unto the Jews they hold of no account
Possession of the Mountain and the mosque upon the Mount.
The Muslims lost the mosque and lost the Mount on which it stands
A foolish choice was made then that it stay within their hands
And feverishly ever they work so as to erase
The record of the Temple there–which must take pride of place.
The world stands by complacent at the Mount destruction news–
When cared the nations for the holy places of the Jews?
But bad though the nations’ silence be, the silence that is worse
Is that of Jews who stand by as the destruction occurs.
Why should a people conquered justly through the force of arms
Be permitted to retain a symbol that does lasting harm?
Why should the conquered be allowed to rule the Temple Mount
And by this hold their conquerors to be of no account?
The mosque upon the Mount is beautiful, or so they say
But like the earlier Temple, it also may pass away–
The mosque was built to show who’d conquered many years ago;
The reason it was raised is also why it now must go.
O Jews, who claim Jerusalem is still your capital
How can you claim this when the Mountain still remains in thrall?
It is in thrall by your consent. Jerusalem will be
Your capital united when the Mount has been set free.
davehm wrote:
With all the negative news coming from our secular (anti religion) World and Government these days, I had a wonderful realization last Shabbat (B’H)
During the Shabbat services the Jewish people have been praying for the last 2,000 years for some of the same things. They include:
the building up of Jerusalem,
the return of a Jewish presence to the Land of Israel,
the rebuilding of the walls of Jerusalem,
Jewish sovereignty over our land again,
and for G-d to hold high a banner for the exiles.
Although the secular, anti G-d World are working overtime to destroy all that is truly Holy in this world, B’H the prayers and prophecy of the Jewish people is being reviled!
There is a blessing in the fact that Jews today can even have this miserable discussion. We are so used to complaining (and rightfully so) about the treatment of the World against Israel that I fear we ignore the true, amazing miracle that we are living – unlike our forefathers over the last 2,000+ years WE are living during a time when our prophecy is coming into fruition, and when we have an opportunity to build Israel and Jerusalem (and…The Temple)
Despite the hatred, and destruction of Obama, and the World, G-d and His people – the People of Israel – are witnessing miracles and blessings in our lifetime!
Yes, it is difficult, but we are witness to such great things in our lifetime, and the promises of G-d. Our problems are the result of the blessing of having Israel to worry about. We are living, experiencing the dreams, and prayers of millions of Jews over thousands of years!
Blessed is Hashem! Am Yisroel Chai!
Teh Won’s in China, but guess what country he’s talking about:
Obama criticizes new Israeli move on settlements
Why doesn’t Botswana get all this attention?
snork wrote:
it ain’t over yet….
Israel should stop caring about public opinion and do what it feels like it.
@ Delectable:
Thank you for this great, concise post! I have printed it out and am loading into my brain. I’m going to be seeing a couple of anti-”settlement”
targetsmoonbats this weekend, so this is especially appreciated.snork wrote:
Botswana? We decry Jews
Just Jews, and nobody else but Jews
Botswana? We decry Jews alone
(boop boop be doop)
We cannot equate
Anything half as great
To a genocide state
In the Jewish home…land
Botswana? We decry Jews
Just Jews, and nobody else but Jews
Botswana? We decry Jews alone
—Barack Obama as Helen Kane
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I also have an issue with the way they violate the second law of thermodynamics by creating a “far mosque” before there are any Mohammedans outside of Mecca and Medina. Who built it, Santa’s pixies?
/Let alone the fact that it’s obvious from photographic evidence that the base of it is an old Roman building.
snork wrote:
The Media Bias
Did you notice this part of that article?
Apartments vs “settlements” is NOTHING more than choosing sides. The term “settlements” is a very biased legal definition (which technically doesn’t even apply per the UN)
I want to know what made the MSM decide in this case that they HAD TO change it. I have my hunch, but then the question is….why doesn’t our side do this as well.
@ WrathofG-d:
Um, I’m not following you?
@ wolfie:
Interesting, a good close friend of mine was explaining to me why Progressives are racist. They believe Non Whites are inferior and that it is their duty to take care of them. It all goes back to the French Enlightenment and Revolution.
@ Rodan:
It is the same kind of paternalism that the Colonial Powers used to justify their “oppressing” people around the world. They, of course, called it “civilizing” people around the world.
Rodan wrote:
Actually, it’s not that they believe nonwhites are “inferior”; they believe them superior on the basis of being more “innocent” and more “close to nature.” Yes, this is racism and a sort of belief in inferiority, but at the same time the progressive believes him/herself inferior because they are less close to nature and less innocent.
Thus, they try to prevent the “innocent children of nature” from developing, in order to preserve their innocence, and they try to reduce themselves to the same level of savagery in order to regain it themselves.
It worked so well the first time….why not destroy Jewish homes, and ethnically cleanse the Jews from Judea?
I remember…
How dare the United States or anyone tell Jews that they cannot have children, and grow! How dare the world go against G-d, and attempt to ethnically cleanse Jews from the land of Israel.
Will the World never learn?
WrathofG-d wrote:
If the world is learning, that’s one looooooooonnnnnnnnnng curve…
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Buzzsawmonkey, as per usual, you sum things up beautifully!
That is exactly what progressives believe! Perfect description!
They claim to be anti-imperialist, but the irony is they look at “third worlders” through the exact same lenses as the imperialists of the 19th century did!
@ Rodan:
Yes, we are sweet, simple, little children who need a nanny-state to feed us and a Big Brother to protect us from all the evils of civilization… like racism, capitalist greed, school-teachers who make you do your homework, priests, etc etc etc etc !!!!!
@ Iron Fist:
I just wanted to say that I did not source you – but yes, progressives really are imperialists for the modern era!
Rodan really pegged it all right! This is nothing but imperialism!
Iron Fist wrote:
That would be a typo. The point is that Jews have prayed and pleaded with G-d for our return to the Land. With his blessing we are there! We are presently building the walls of Jerusalem, Jerusalem after 2000+ years is once again reunited, the banner (Israeli Flag) has been raised for our return, the Horn of ingathering is once again being blown by Jews in Jerusalem, in our own land – in Israel.
Yes it is difficult, but it is quite the amazing miracle that our eyes are seeing it, that we are living, and breathing what was prophesied and prayed for for over 2000+ years.
What we take for granted – the existence of Israel – was unheard of for millions of Jews for thousands of years!
Our duty to keep Jerusalem is not only political, but for the sake of the million of Jews who died with this dream, this hope, this prayer on their lips – to once again have a Jewish home in Jerusalem, in Israel! We are witnessing the prayers of millions of Jews for centuries!
Clearer?
Psalm 45:11 “Truth shall spring out of the earth…”
More evidence that the Jews have were there 2,000 years ago.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091111/D9BTK7G00.html
@ buzzsawmonkey:
At the end of the day, the Jews are going to have to fight back. They haven’t been real good at that since Juddah Maccabbee. I’d expound further, but I have to run. In any event, you all are going to have to do something pretty terrible to the Mohammedans or they will kill all of you.
@ Delectable:
Awwwwwwwww…(blush)
Thank you!
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Interesting point.
Rodan wrote:
And if you can get enough alcohol into a white liberal, they’ll tell you as much. It’s “white man’s burden” rewritten in PC. This all dovetails with their elitist intellectual vanity. Doesn’t take that much alcohol, either. It’s right there, lurking under the surface.
@ WrathofG-d:
It’s not just Jews this has happened to. When the US Illegally Bombed Serbia and forced them to withdraw, The Imperialists destroyed Serbian Churches and Homes.
This is being done to anyone who opposed the Islamic Empire.
@ davehm:
I read about that a while ago…how could the muzzie’s even make an argument that they were there first.
Great thread post, Delectable!
Great comments as usual buzzsawmonkey and WrathofG-d!
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Thus the carbon boondoggle.
@ snork:
As a Hispanic the most racist people I have met are White Progressives. I love pushing their buttons by telling them My Ancestors were oppressed theirs so I’m not a victim. Once I do that their White Supremacist views come out.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
It’s the great multi-cult double-edged sword. On the one hand, there is the pure, natural (and thus superior) “noble savage,” undefiled by civilization, who must be protected from the corruption of development. OTOH, the “bigotry of diminished expectations,” which regards minorities as inferiors.
It’s always interesting to me how these two motifs, superficially contradictory, overlap and entertwine in leftist ideology.
You know what’s interesting? Jerusalem isn’t even mentioned in the koran, it wasn’t until the descendants of Ishmael realised that Jerusalem meant something to the descendants of Isaac, it was then that they made a power play for the place.
@ S the Elder:
The muzzie argument is that Moses (Mousa to them) received the Qu’ran at Mount Sinai which the Jews later wickedly rewrote as the Torah. At the same time, the muzzies deny that the Jewish people were EVER in the Holy Land. They say that Moses (3300 years ago) and Jesus (1300 years later) were Muslims.
Their argument is that Mohammed found the original Qu’ran in the 7th Century of the Common Era and revealed it to the world after Jews had wickedly been claiming that they had the original Torah.
Not that Jews ever existed, actually (according to them).
Their narrative is mixed up and messed up.
@ wolfie:
You really said it quite beautifully! I totally agree with you!
@ Rodan:
Not to mention that Clinton handed Putin a gift of immeasurable value: a valid reason for Orthodox Christians to be paranoid. I have my doubts about whether Putin would be in power had the US not chose to get involved in something that, whatever else may have been going on, wasn’t our fight.
davehm wrote:
Such facts are lost on the unholy practitioners of the Religion of (sloppy) Plagiarism and their useful idiots!
@ Rodan:
I get sooooo steamed at what passes for “Hispanic Studies” in universities today. Nothing but modern PC victimology. Instead of talking about El Cid, Fernando el Santo, Cortez (except as a villain), Goya, and Cervantes, it’s all about poor, poor, pitiful little Latinos being oppressed.
snork wrote:
The “white man’s burden” is a phrase coined by Kipling in his poem of the same name. People forget, if they knew, that the poem was written to welcome the US to the responsibilities of empire, following the American victory in the Spanish-American War and the US difficulties dealing with the insurgency in the Philippines.
Kipling viewed “empire” in terms of uplift; while he certainly regarded the dark-skinned peoples as inferior to the white, he believed in doing all one could to bring the “younger nations” (as he calls them elsewhere) into modernity and what he deemed civilization. Arrogant this may have been, but it was still an attitude far superior to that of the moonbats of his own day, or of today, who seek to preserve what they perceive as “primitive” as a sort of quaint “international park” of ethnic curiosities.
A strongly anti-empire attitude may be read in Mark Twain’s To the Person Sitting in Darkness. Kipling’s view may be read here; try to read it without the prejudices you have been told to have:
The White Man’s Burden
—Rudyard Kipling, 1899
The United States and the Philippine Islands
Take up the White man’s burden—
Send forth the best ye breed—
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives’ need;
To wait in heavy harness
On fluttered folk and wild—
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half devil and half child.
Take up the White Man’s burden—
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times mad plain.
To seek another’s profit,
And work another’s gain.
Take up the White Man’s burden—
The savage wars of peace—
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch Sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hope to nought.
Take up the White Man’s burden—
No tawdry rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper—
The tale of common things.
The ports ye shall not enter,
The roads ye shall not tread,
Go make them with your living,
And mark them with your dead!
Take up the White man’s burden—
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
The hate of those ye guard—
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah, slowly!) toward the light: —
“Why brought ye us from bondage,
“Our loved Egyptian night?”
Take up the White Man’s burden—
Ye dare not stoop to less—
Nor call too loud on freedom
To cloak your weariness;
By all ye cry or whisper,
By all ye leave or do,
The silent, sullen peoples
Shall weigh your Gods and you.
Take up the White Man’s burden—
Have done with childish days—
The lightly proffered laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years,
Cold-edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!
@ Eliana:
They also believe that the promise of the land given to Abraham Isaac and Jacob was instead given to Ishmael.
@ snork:
I agree, it was none of our business. The Serbs were fighting Al-Qaeda in both Bosnia and Kossovo. In fact the current President of Illegally Occupied Kossovo was trained in Afghanistan by Al-Qaeda. Zarqawi was in Kossovo back in 99.
My wife just sent me an email from a friend of her’s who was driving behind a car with a bumper sticker that read “Pray for Obama Psalm 109:8″…they looked up the verse and it reads “Let his days be few, and let another take his office”…
@ Eliana:
Having read the unholy Koran, it is my understanding that Islam is more a state of being, and less a religion.
What I mean by this is that “being a Muslim” means following the Word of G-d. This is how they allow for Jesus, and Moses to both be
“Muslims”, and how they can make claim over everything in the World.
Accordingly, being a Muslims is like saying “doing the right thing” or “acting the right way”.
@ snork:
@ wolfie:
An enthusiastic “yes!” to each of you.
@ Eliana:
Logic isn’t exactly their strong suit.
davehm wrote:
I suppose they don’t like that Ishmael would be “wild like a donkey” roaming the desert.
I assume they don’t believe that Ishmael is the bastard son?
@ Eliana:
You’re too kind. They are pathological liars and their unholy book tells them it is acceptable.
lobo91 wrote:
neither is their bloodlines…
@ S the Elder:
I’m looking at that in context with verses 6 and 7, very interesting.
@ snork:
“So the Israelis got the moral high ground, and the waqf got the physical high ground. Who got the better end of that deal?”
The moral high ground is a very dangerous place for Jews to be. To claim it, they must renounce Israel, their nationhood, and their history, and not defend themselves.
@ wolfie:
Also they don’t mention that the 4 greatest Roman Emperor Trajan, Hadrian, Antoninus Pious and Marcus Aurelios were Spaniards. Seneca was also a Spaniard. Let us not forget Spain under Felipe Ii rules large parts of Europe, the Americas. Africa and the Philippines.
I’m not a victim, I’m the aggressor.!
Here si a video that will anger the Racist Progressives
davehm wrote:
what does it say?
I guess the Arab rapes, murders, and riots of the 1920s were because of the “occupation” in 1967 as well?
Arab Riots of 1920s
@ WrathofG-d:
And the PLO was formed in 1964(?) in order to liberate the land Israel occupied in 1967.
@ S the Elder:
And he’ll be agianst every man! Gen 16:12
Just look at his descendants today.
@ WrathofG-d:
1920s, hell; the Arabs were murdering Jews from the time the proto-Zionists started trying to set up communities in the Land in the 1880s.
Whether or not they randomly murdered the Jews living in the Land prior to that time for sheer sport, I do not know.
@ lobo91:
I actually thought they were a Jewish underground organization that was formed in WW2.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
White man = grown up.
The imperatives of responsibility reside in the most able, the superior man.
@ WrathofG-d:
Here is Arab Genocide towards Black South Sudanese Christians.
Arab-Imperialists are a genocidal people.
lobo91 wrote:
The Marxists, Islamists, and separatists who wrested control of the Civil Rights Movement from Martin Luther King made common cause with the PLO almost as soon as it was formed in 1964, and declared themselves an “anti-colonial struggle” in “solidarity” with that organization. The Movement led by King had identified with the Jews and the story of the Exodus; the movement which supplanted King (and in which Barack Obama, his wife, and all of his “civil rights” cohorts matured) looked to the PLO and the elimination of the Jewish State.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
See my 83, They also committed genocide in the 80’s/90’s against Black Christians in the Sudan.
The following was written in 1974. Nothing has changed!
There is no “Palestine people” and there is no “Palestine.” The lands that today constitute the State of Israel, Judea, Samaria (the West Bank), Gaza and the Golan are parts of Israel, the sole land of the Jews.
The Jewish claim to the Land of Israel is not an ordinary nationalist one. It is NOT merely derived from the fact that ONCE Jews were sovereign there, were the majority, ruled the land under their own government and that never was the land empty of Jews. All this is true but this is not the main claim of the Jewish people. Jewish refusal to give up lands is sometimes based on the logical and self evident fact that to give up lands to a people that has constantly threatened to destroy you is sheer madness, and that Jews dare not trust to their kindly intentions in the future. This too, is true, but again, it is not the reason for Jews remaining on the lands liberated after June, 1967.
The fundamental and REAL Jewish claim to The Land of Israel is based on the fact that there is a Divine grant of the land to the Jewish people, and that G-d gave the Holy Land to the Jewish people in order that it be holy and create a holy society therein. No other arguments – Jewish or Arab – have any relevance to the essential fact that the One who created the entire world and who possesses it, has the power and the right to give it to whomever he chooses and this is what was done more than 3,000 years ago at the time of Moses and Joshua. This is what remains inalienable right today. The Land of Israel in its Biblical boundaries is the Divine decree to the Jewish people, it belongs to the Jewish people in its entirety and no alien trespass has any merit or chance of success.
Zionism is NOT one more movement of national liberation. It is not one more like all the rest any more than the Jewish people is one more like all the rest. The believing Jew as the believing Christian knows that there is a Divine pledge – repeated again and again in the prophets of the Bible – that the Jew will be brought back from the Exile, gathered from the corners of the earth and brought home – to the Land of Israel. The believing Jew and the believing Christian know that this resurrection of the Jewish state and this return of the Jew to his home is a NECESSARY precondition for the coming of the final redemption and the establishment of the Kingdom of G-d.
Zionism, the establishment of the State of Israel, the return of millions of Jews home, the miraculous victories of the few over the many Arabs, the liberation of Judea, Samaria (the West Bank), Gaza, and the Golan, the return of Jewish sovereignty over the Holy City and Temple Mount are all parts of the Divine pledge and its fulfillment.
There can be no “Palestine”, a name that was invented by the Romans to symbolize the end of the Jewish people, for that would be to diminish and to force back the miracle of G-d and to go against the Divine era of redemption. There can be no “Palestine” for if there is, then there is no Israel.
In all this we DIFFER FUNDAMENTALLY with the government of [the U.S.] which 1) recognizes a “Palestinian” people…, 2) that there are “moderate Palestinians” who will both challenge the PLO thesis and leadership as well as permanently accept a Jewish State, 3) believes that peace with the Arabs by concessions is possible, 4) is prepared to give up parts of the Land of Israel to the Arabs, and 5) refuses to allow Jews to settle unrestrictedly in any part of the Land of Israel under Jewish control.
We differ with these stands and maintain that the government of Israel [and U.S.], through its short-sighted, timid and vacillating policy, not only destroys the vision and the dream of redemption but brings potential disaster down on the heads of the Jewish people. We maintain that there must be an immediate program of declaring:
1) There are no meaningful Arab moderates who will permanently accept any Jewish state, of any size. The ultimate Arab goal is the elimination of any Jewish state.
2) There is no “Palestine people” or “Palestine” entity.
3) All of the Land of Israel belongs exclusively to the Jewish people.
4) If there are those who wish to create something known as “Palestine’ they are welcome to do so in “Jordan” which in itself is a fictitious state created by the imperialist British by cutting away, in 1921, the eastern part of the Land of Israel. The Arabs who call themselves “Palestinians” had the opportunity to create a “Palestine” in a far larger part of the Land of Israel but refused to do so. They lost that chance forever and if they refuse to create a state in “Jordan” now, but insist upon war, they will lose again and lose “Jordan” in the process because – WHILE WE WILL NEVER BEGIN A WAR FOR THOSE PARTS OF THE LAND OF ISRAEL NOW UNDER FOREIGN RULE, SHOULD THE ARABS BEGIN THAT WAR AND WE LIBERATE STILL OTHER AREAS OF THE LAND OF ISRAEL, THEN THOSE WILL NEVER BE GIVEN UP EITHER.
5) The Arabs today sit in large areas of the Land of Israel promised by G-d to us. For the sake of peace, we are prepared to go to a peace conference with maps to show which lands we claim as our own but declare that we are prepared to declare a state of non- belligerency and not demand those lands back. In exchange for that concession, and as the price they should pay for their aggression of 1948, 1956, 1967, and 1973 the Arabs must recognize the State of Israel in the area it now controls.
6) Immediate, unlimited and unrestricted Jewish settlement in any and every part of the Land of Israel including Judea, Samaria, Gaza, and the Golan.
There is no “Palestine” people and there is no “Palestine.” We are not dismayed by the Arabs, we are not shocked, we are not confused. Above all, we are not fooled by them. Not by their vague and tantalizing hints of “recognition” not by their aura of “moderation” and not by their ingenious effort to create a camp of “extremists” versus “moderates.” We are not fooled by those who for 44 years have threatened to do away with the Jewish state, as in 1967 – before they were taught to be more discreet and allow the world a face-saving way to allow Israel to die. We are not fooled by those, who, in 1956 – BEFORE Jews had liberated the lands the Arabs claim constitute the major cause – took arms from the Soviets and prepared to wipe out the Israel of that time. We are not fooled by those who, in 1947 turned down even the pathetic, grotesque tiny state that the United Nations gave the Jews.
We are not fooled by those who rioted against and killed Jews in 1921, 1929, 1936, 1937, and 1938. We are not fooled. There are no “moderate” Arabs. There are only clever and less clever, patient and impatient. The final solution for ALL is the same – the elimination of any Jewish State. And so we repeat: There is no “Palestine people” and there is no “Palestine.” They are Arabs, part of the Arab nation that lives in many countries, and to where the Arabs of the Land of Israel must and will be repatriated.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
@ WrathofG-d:
Here are the Arabized Kashmiri Islamo-Imperialists driving out the Hindus from Kashmir!
http://www.kashmir-information.com/Miscellaneous/Slogans.html
davehm wrote:
did you read the verses after?…I would hope that’s not their intention…
@ S the Elder:
Psalm 109:6-8
“Set a wicked man over him, and let an accuser stand at his right hand. When he is judged, let him be found guilty and let his prayer become sin. Let his days be
few, and let another take his office.”
Overlook wrote:
Precisely why they hold the Israelis to a higher standard than the Palis. The Israelis are purported to be “white” (which isn’t really true), and the Palis are purported to be “brown” (also not really true), therefore, the “grown up” (white) Israelis are supposed to put up with the abuse from the “childlike” (brown) Palis, because they’re too inferior to know any better.
It’s pure, unadulterated racism.
@ WrathofG-d:
Have you read the Palestinian charter? They didn’t become a people until 1967! and they’re Arabs!
snork wrote:
Not only pure and unadulterated—it’s locally grown. And sustainable.
@ WrathofG-d:
zactly…but that is why BHO is no friend to Israel…he views the conflict through a secular lens. The land belongs to the Jewish people for reasons he cannot comprehend. (Reagan and Bush understood…there are some very interesting books and interviews on that subject if you search)
@ S the Elder:
See my #84.
@ Rodan:
Yes, and Pakistan was created because the Muslims of India refused to live in peace with the Hindu, and demanded their own Country or they would Jihad!
The Partition of India
Islam Marches On! Terrorism Works!
Or Medina That Was Originally A Jewish City Until Islam Ethnically Cleansed It Of All Its Jews!
-Link explaining such. Previously at The Blogmocracy
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
And recycled!
/just gets betterer and betterer
@ davehm:
The Islamic-Imperialists will not stop at Israel. They are doing this crap in the Balkans, Kashmir, Cyprus, Thailand, Philippines, France and UK. This is the world over this is going on!
@ S the Elder:
I think verse 8 is reference to the second coming of Christ, the wicked man would be the Anti-Christ. My bible has the second half of verse 8 marked as a Messianic prophecy that has yet to be fulfilled. I would have to say that more study is needed.
@ WrathofG-d:
Yup, Media belonged to a Jewish Tribe that had been there for hundreds of years!
Don’t forget after 1948, Jews were ethnically cleansed from all Arab Countries as well.
davehm wrote:
Yes, the PLO Charter explicitly explains that it is their desire to create a “Palestine” so that they can once again place that land back into the Ummah as part of Jordan.
Their flags evidence this as well. “Palestine” & Jordan
@ WrathofG-d:
The Islamo-Imperialist also have cleansed also the Greeks of Northern Cyprus!
@ WrathofG-d:
To paraphrase the left;
ElectionsWars have consequences, deal with it.Rodan wrote:
I’m still astounded that nobody has yet marketed Ethnic Cleanser™—the cleanser that scours away those nasty foreign stains in the twinkling of an eye!
A nice canister with all sorts of gross stereotypical ethnic caricatures running around it would attract the eye in the supermarket, don’t you think?
@ WrathofG-d:
Yup, the Colonialists (Palestinians) also plan to take over Jordan!
Rodan wrote:
and yet progressives like the hippie fear the grandmas and grandpas at the tea party rallies…
@ S the Elder:
zactly…but that is why BHO is no friend to Israel…he views the conflict through a secular lens
I think that it is iot is more than that. Obama spent part of his life as a Muslim, no matter what the media claims. He then joined a Church that had a anti-Semetic pastor & stayed there for twenty years.
I know that he has Emanuel, Axlerod & other Jews in the Administration, but I do not believe that he likes Jews.
@ WrathofG-d:
BTW who wrote that?
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Yup!
@ Rodan:
World domination and conversion is what they want! Now here’s the kicker, if your Jewish they don’t want to convert you they want to kill you.
If your a Christian and don’t deny Christ you have committed an unforgivable sin (admitting that God has a Son) which is punishable by death.
The atheist and agnostic as well has a whole slew of other people will bow down to save their skins only to lose their souls.
davehm wrote:
The apostles thought the verse referred to Judas and they quoted it when replacing him with Matthias.
Acts 1:18-20
18(With the reward he got for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out. 19Everyone in Jerusalem heard about this, so they called that field in their language Akeldama, that is, Field of Blood.)
20″For,” said Peter, “it is written in the book of Psalms,
” ‘May his place be deserted;
let there be no one to dwell in it,’[b] and,
” ‘May another take his place of leadership.’
Poteen wrote:
there is a link provided, but its true isn’t it?
Rodan wrote:
It’s not really “taking over” Jordan when you consider that Jordan is 80% of the old Palestine Mandate—which is why the media occasionally admit that “the majority of the residents of Jordan are Palestinians.”
Well, of course they are; Jordan is “Palestine”; it is the “second state” of the “two-state solution.” Or it should be. What the people calling for a “two-state solution” are actually advocating is a three-state solution; Jordan, Israel, and a second Arab state carved out of Israel’s vitals.
@ WrathofG-d:
And today,
India: Hindu 80.5%, Muslim 13.4%
Pakistan: Muslim 95%, Hindu 2%
And those 2% are in the southern-most regions of Pakistan. Thus, Pakistan is practically “Hindu-free” while in India, Muslims are still a significant portion of the population. As is reflected in acceptance of Arabs behind the green line in Israel compared to acceptance of Jews living in Arab-majority areas.
Prepare to see more of this:
A judge on Wednesday handed a six-year jail sentence to a man accused of plotting to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago and allegedly swearing allegiance to Al-Qaeda.
@ RIX:
maybe…I’m just saying that if he believed as I (and many others) do, he would have a different view.
I guess I would be more likely to accept he is anti-semetic (reference rev wright) than sympathetic to Muslims. I frankly just see him as secular. His church attendance was nothing more that a vehicle to advance his political career in Chicago.
@ GrandJunctionite:
At the beginning of a movie I was watching was an FBI warning of 3 years in prison for illegally copying the movie. Seems about right, since clearly an active plot to murder thousands of Americans and overthrow the US gov is approximately twice as bad as copying Spiderman 3 for your cousin.
/
@ song_and_dance_man:
Your right, my bad…I totally missed that, good eye!
S the Elder wrote:
I agree, I have been at two marches and I am so scary to look at with my black police style shoes dress pants and sport coat but I do have a moustache.
RIX wrote:
Window dressing.
And you know what you dress windows with? Dummies.
Rahm and Dave may be “smart guys.” But anyone who agrees to be a punk for a punk is a dummy nonetheless.
GrandJunctionite wrote:
Do we know his motive?
UPDATE:
It is also important to see how Peace Now has OPENLY LIED about Arab land claims. They were called on it and proven wrong in court! Source.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I recall an interview with Bat Ye’or that someone posted at 1.0 years ago. What she basically said is the Arabs should take the lesson of the Jews to solve the problem of the Palestinians. Here was a re-rewly created state, that is Israel, that invited Jews around the world to return to their homeland. And in the early years there was great struggle to accommodate the influx of Jews returning. However they did it and have prospered for it. Bat suggested the rich Arab states should invite the so-called Palestinians into their countries in care for their Arab brothers. But of course that will not happen because these squatters are being used for a political end. And we all know what that is.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Rahm and Dave may be “smart guys.” But anyone who agrees to be a punk for a punk is a dummy nonetheless
Well said.
Silhouette wrote:
Other than in the disputed Jewish neighborhoods in Judea, and Samaria there is 0% Jewish population in “the West Bank”, and 0% in Gaza at all. Israel however (from CIA Factbook)
Israel
Jewish 76.4% (of which Israel-born 67.1%, Europe/America-born 22.6%, Africa-born 5.9%, Asia-born 4.2%), non-Jewish 23.6% (mostly Arab) (2004)
Religions:
Field info displayed for all countries in alpha order.
Jewish 76.4%, Muslim 16%, Arab Christians 1.7%, other Christian 0.4%, Druze 1.6%, unspecified 3.9% (2004)
Languages:
Field info displayed for all countries in alpha order.
Hebrew (official), Arabic used officially for Arab minority, English most commonly used foreign language
For Gaza:
Field info displayed for all countries in alpha order.
Palestinian Arab
Religions:
Field info displayed for all countries in alpha order.
Muslim (predominantly Sunni) 99.3%, Christian 0.7%
Languages:
Field info displayed for all countries in alpha order.
Arabic, Hebrew (spoken by many Palestinians), English (widely understood)
Judea/Samaria (“West Bank”)
Field info displayed for all countries in alpha order.
Palestinian Arab and other 83%, Jewish 17%
Religions:
Field info displayed for all countries in alpha order.
Muslim 75% (predominantly Sunni), Jewish 17%, Christian and other 8%
Languages:
Field info displayed for all countries in alpha order.
Arabic, Hebrew (spoken by Israeli settlers and many Palestinians), English (widely understood)
*NOTE: the 17% Jewish in Judea/Samaria are 100% in Disputed Jewish Neighborhoods. Outside those neighborhoods (the ones the World, and Obama are trying to destroy) the % is 0.
@ song_and_dance_man:
Yes. Four hundred thousand people, now swelled to a couple of million, have voluntarily dedicated themselves to having as their sole goal in life being no more than the waves of child suicide minesweepers who were deployed in the Iran/Iraq war.
Pathetic.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
That is so sad but so true.
Ok, so now we have addressed the problem, but what are we going to do about it?
@ WrathofG-d:
OK found it. The link was just the period at the end but it worked.
I like it because it lays out simply and clearly the position. He chooses his side and stands by it. No PC.
The Jewish claim goes back 5000 years, the Muslim claim is 1300 years old. The last 60 years Israel has fought to keep what they have won back. It’s a pretty simple equation.
Nowadays there is too much ‘bully’ stigma attached to simply winning.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
It’s like a huge Act Up protest, with a deadly violent twist.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I can’t say that I’m impressed with what I’ve seen so far; with the control of congress the donkeys have, they haven’t managed to get that much through, and in the process, their numbers have gone all to hell. If that’s what smart looks like, I hope I never meet dumb.
@ RIX:
Fla. man convicted in terror plot gets 6 years
MIAMI — A Miami man convicted of plotting to destroy Chicago’s Sears Tower and bomb FBI offices has been sentenced to six years in federal prison.
U.S. District Judge Joan Lenard imposed the sentence Wednesday on 24-year-old Burson Augustin. Four other men are scheduled to be sentenced over the next three days.
Prosecutors sought the maximum 30-year sentence for Augustin. Lenard ruled stiffer punishments because he was convicted of terrorism-related charges should not apply to Augustin, who was not the leader.
The men were convicted in May of supporting al-Qaida, conspiring to wage war on the U.S. and other charges. There were two mistrials, and two other men were acquitted. All denied plotting terror attacks.
The Chicago skyscraper is now called the Willis Tower.
Lenard, Joan A.
Born 1952 in Amityville, NY
Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U. S. District Court, Southern District of Florida
Nominated by William J. Clinton on September 29, 1995, to a seat vacated by James Lawrence King; Confirmed by the Senate on December 22, 1995, and received commission on December 26, 1995.
WrathofG-d wrote:
The only way to win is to bring the other side to there knees. So the answer is easy
And Buzzsaw: go get yourself an avatar.
@ WrathofG-d:
See my first post on this thread, #2
GrandJunctionite wrote:
Whatchoo tall about, Willis?
Poteen wrote:
There is a lot to say about him (good and bad) but one cannot ignore the fact that unlike most leaders today he perfectly understood what his beloved people, and nation were up against. He wrote that in the 1970s and was warning about the threats we see today even earlier. What he has warned about have transpired. Unlike our wishy-washy morally confused (and losing) leaders, he had clarity!
One can hate the messenger all they want, but it is very difficult to deny his message!
davehm wrote:
Yes, THEY MUST GO! -that is what Israel should do about it.
But what are WE, The People going to do about it.
This thread is about OUR Government!
snork wrote:
Thanks, but when I take an avatar the image will be mine own.
@ WrathofG-d:
Thank you. When I said ‘Do we know the motive”, I should have used a sarc tag. I was being sarcastic about Fort Hood.
Something random I can across awhile ago. A very interesting read:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Books/MW/john_d.htm
@ WrathofG-d:
I just pray…everything is going the way the bible said it would, hopefully by God’s grace the clock will slow and more people will receive Jesus as their Lord and Savior and get saved.
that’s my agenda
ot
-Just a reminder-
2009 Weblog Awards
Another interesting read:
http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/general/stjohn_islam.aspx
There is one specific link I am trying to find. Please bear with me. In the meantime, the previous ones are very interesting.
@ WrathofG-d:
I hope we get someone who is pro Israel next time around but I’m not holding my breath.
WrathofG-d wrote:
I was going to do that later after more people showed up. But hey, twice in one day can’t hurt.
Sorry to threadjack, but if you navigate this site, you will find tons of information…and remember, this is the Orthodox Church, they are the ones still in the ME fighting for their existence.
@ WrathofG-d:
Unlike our wishy-washy morally confused (and losing) leaders, he had clarity!
Thats the key. Real leaders, good and bad, stake out the limits. They don’t try to please everyone. In the end, their success depends on the veracity of their ideas and the clarity of their arguments. Churchill told the truth and alienated some folks. Hitler fudged the truth and alienated or killed friend and foe alike.
The Islamists can’t win on the truth. No one on the world scene today is willing to take the heat by telling it.
@ davehm:
I hope we get someone who is pro Israel next time around but I’m not holding my breath.
Yeah & a pro American , American president would be nice.
davehm wrote:
Ok, then what steps specifically are we going to take to ensure that that happens.
Say what you will about the Left, but they are active. They take action! They call, write, go door-to-door, write the Newspaper, take to the streets, push their Government, take politics everywhere, get into the media and the universities (elementary schools), etc….
We need to do something as well. Let is start here @ The Blogmocracy!
@ NoThreat2U:
Walter Martin’s “Kingdom of the Cults” is one of my goto sources on Islam, that and the Koran.
Later gators.
@ GrandJunctionite:
Oh…he wasn’t the LEADER…that makes all the difference.
@ davehm:
I came across anawesome story about a British doctor who was in Cyprus at the time of the Turkish takeover. The barbarity that he witnessed was sickening. I cant seem to find it now. I think it may be somewhere within the links that I posted. Suffice to say, people knew for quite some time what barbarians they were dealing with. How did it get to this???
Hate to do it but the Teenage Mutant Ninja Reptile fight is still cookin’. And funny.
@ WrathofG-d:
Wrath, I teach enough bible studies to get the truth out there, people have brains, they can connect the dots. The bible clearly states that the people who are put into positions of power are put there by God. I’m of a strong biblical persuasion that the leader of a nation best reflects the majorities attitude to the true and living God. Just look at Saul in 1st Samuel.
@ NoThreat2U:
That’s a long story.
Islam @ War All Over The World (yet, Obama still obsesses over Israeli homes)
@ WrathofG-d:
Keep speaking the truth and people will get it.
Interesting, from the dean of Harvard Medical School:
Health ‘Reform’ Gets a Failing Grade
You mean they ain’t telling us everything? C’mon.
@ WrathofG-d:
And everytime someone starts a grassroots effort like that, they get called wingnuts and teabaggers. I say screwit…bring the insults. All we did was steal a page from the lib playbook. The MSM tries to make it look bad now…when it was an awesome display of patriotism before. (their way of thinking, not mine)
davehm wrote:
Ii used to have that book, and now that I think about there is no recollection on what happened to it.
When you had ugly fat chicks walking around topless with “Boobs not Bombs” banners, that was dissent and it was “patriotic”. Now when you have working class folk thinking “How much more money do you want from me, and for WHAT”? They are irrational teabaggers and wingnuts. Oh, and they want a theocracy too.//
@ NoThreat2U:
The English called the Founding Father’s crazy as well. I don’t care what others call me.
History is written by the winners!
WrathofG-d wrote:
And an AMEN! from the lapsed Irish Catholic contingent!!
@ WrathofG-d:
Oh I am not afraid of the insults either. It makes me laugh when people like the MSM and the blog which shall not be named go crazy when someone else is following their playbook. I say keep it up. It worked for the other guys. That is why I don’t understand where 1.0s righteous indignation comes from. We have put up with the wackos for years and look where it got them…Obama. If we want to CHANGE things back, it is time to take to the streets and let them know we aren’t gonna take it no more. Nothing wrong with that in my book…it is the American way. You and I are in agreement.
@ Poteen:
Is that something going on at the Bar Across the Street?
Soon to be part of the Israeli building code.
@ Poteen:
We have a Lapsed Irish Contingent here?? Who knew! lol
Negotiations went on for years with Israel building settlements. Why the change? Simple: O-bow-ma is a moron.
OT, to the tune of “Yankee Doodle”:
Eric Holder thought that he’d try
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed
Senator Graham asked him why
And Holder had no comment
Holder, if you’d like us not
Your brain to impugn, you’ll
Keep Mohammed at Gitmo
Tried by martial tribunal!
Also, maybe they should stop HIRING Palis to build these “illegal” settlements. See how they like that. Who else is gonna give them a job? hamas????? HA!
NoThreat2U wrote:
Exactly. They don’t want us to do anything.
We can’t let them intimidate us into silence.
@ song_and_dance_man:
You probably let someone borrow it like I did with my jack and jack stands, now I wonder who?
Carolina Girl wrote:
It’s calming down now but the 20 teenagers left may be down to 15 soon.
Longest thread in a while had 10 posters calling each other names for half the comments. Kinda like if the Britney Spears and Jessica Simpson fan clubs ran into each other.
@ wolfie:
I agree.. I won’t be painted with that brush though. The proggies might be running things now but this is still MY country too. I still have all the rights afforded to me by the United States of America and Her Constitution. I plan on exercising those rights to the fullest extent.
NoThreat2U wrote:
That’s because the demonstrators want to make their own choices, and the Left has decreed that teabaggers can’t be choosers.
NoThreat2U wrote:
We are everywhere. Biding our time.//
JohnH wrote:
I know you meant nothing bad by it, but I think we need to change the terminology used to discuss the homes in Judea & Samaria. The term “settlement” is a legal term which connotes illegality. Words/Terminology is very important. It is what has single handedly changed a conversation about the Arab desire to commit a second Holocaust into a discussion about Israel-occupation and “Palestinians”.
The additional apartments being build in Gilo are just that: Minor additions to a already existing neighborhood.
The neighborhoods outside the 1967 Armestace Lines are just that. Not, “Israeli Settlements”.
The change should start HERE & then find its way into the population. I would suggest calling people on it when in discussion as well!
@ Poteen:
Out here in CA too, looks earthquake proof.
wolfie wrote:
We can’t listen to anything they say. We don’t even need to respond to their lies and name calling.
The more they rant, the crazier they look.
We out number them. We just need to keep moving forward. Keep showing up. Keep speaking out.
We are on the ascendancy. You can feel the momentum.
That Same Old Carter Feeling Again
@ buzzsawmonkey:
**groan**
@ Poteen:
Oh shit! That’s it! I’m starting the Croatian Mafia. I gotta take care of myself.
The Islamic idiots and progressive morons should realize that there’s no such thing as a mulligan in war.
You don’t get to “do-over” an unsuccessful attempt at wiping out a neighboring country while they expect to magically get the clock set back to 1967 and at the same time taking zero responsibility for their warmongering and genocidal ambitions which created the current situation.
To sum it up, anybody who is hostile towards Israel, an advanced, democratic country surrounded mostly by primitive, dysfunctional assholes can go screw themselves. The enemies of Israel don’t want peace, and nobody should waste their time in even entertaining such ludicrous ideas. Even the concept of a “cease-fire” with Islamic radicals and terrorists is a ridiculous idea. Like cockroaches, the infestation will only get worse if you choose to ignore it.
If the Palestinians disapprove of the houses, then my advice is for Hamas to open the “Gates of Hell” again, for the third or fourth time I believe. I’ve kind of lost count, since they first decided to open the gates of hell.
I don’t believe that there’s been any entertaining car-swarms in a while, and I’d like to see if a certain blog will post those car-swarms when they happen, just like they used to do in the past.
davehm wrote:
Geez we don’t need any more. Thats where I am and building is what I (used to) do. To clear code here nowadays you have to build an environmentally friendly,energy efficient,design reviewed bunker.
I love the new layout of the site. Great job.
Obama on Obama….
I could be a double dip.
Yours by lies and fraud,
B. Obama
I’ll tell ya…threads like this make me want to visit the Holy Land soooo bad. I honestly mean that. I want to walk where Jesus walked. See what He saw. I am overwhelmed at the thought.
I wonder what Chuckles has to say about this:
Gibson Guitar plant in Nashville raided by feds
But, but, but…
@ DesertSage:
Hey DesertSage.
@ DesertSage:
Hey bud. So good to see you again.
@ WrathofG-d:
I couldn’t agree more!!! That’s why I put “settlement” in quotation marks all the time. It’s a heavily loaded term meant to suggest that foreign colonists are newly coming in to settle on land of natives who have a prior claim to it.
We should definitely use any word but that.
(…unless maybe when we’re talking about Arabs building in Israel… heh, heh.)
chickadee wrote:
Hey chickadee.
Just stopped by for a quickie. I like quickies…
:’)
OT one of my liberal friends on FB is goofing on Sara Palin having to use cue cards for an interview. So I wrote in the comment section “Ha, maybe someday she’ll get her own Teleprompter!”
I could not let that one go by.
NoThreat2U wrote:
I would love to go too.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Here is a video that will be both “on topic” of the thread, and your comment.
Imagine walking in the steps of Jesus and hearing the muezzin call.
NoThreat2U wrote:
There is no hope for you. We’ve been at it for years.
Ask Rodan. All those survivors of the Spanish Armada swam to Ireland– and vanished. The Vikings sailed down and made a lot of noise but where are they now? We just turn our women loose and breed them out of existence. You are all doomed.
Poteen wrote:
BRING ON THE WOMEN!!!
@ Mad Mullah:
Obama sez car swarm photography is not PC so probably won’t happen there.
@ DesertSage:
Hi there, Sage!
So nice to see that bony little dog again!
snork wrote:
Well I have something so say about. I had no idea the two most important woods used in making quality guitars were recently banned from commercial trade. We, us musicians, can finger salute the enviromentalists for this sad trend.
Most fret boards are made from rosewood, and the best bodies are made from choice mahogany. I have many guitars, but if I decide in the future to add to my collection I will have to buy used, since new guitars will not have the same quality woods.
@ chickadee:
NO THREAT2U
Go!
This is the foolishness of western leader’s trying to negotiate the middle east based on sensitivity to an islam culture bent on hate and killing of jews. A culture of hate established and grown in the arms of WWII nazism and never called to modernize itself. It is really just an evolved form of anti semitism. It’s Obama and Condi supporting nazism in it’s modern form.
wolfie wrote:
There are at least 4 wolves here and a large contingent of cats and birds.
Israel shouldn’t be allowing Arabs to buy land in Israel. It’s geo political nonsense. They should be solidifying their borders and making their borders easily clear and secure. Gaza should not be there in it’s current form.
@ Poteen:
We CAN make a comeback!! We all have those childbearing hips!! You think the Palis reproduce? Ha! You aint seen nothing yet!! Now where did I put that Pelinkovac????
@ WrathofG-d:
I would probably start reciting The Lords’s Prayer at the top of my lungs. I am a bitch like that.
SciFiGuy wrote:
Careful what you wish for. This is for you too Wrath.
If the daughters of Erin showed up in Jerusalem today, in 50 years you wouldn’t know the place.
The Golden Dome of the rock would be in the south endzone of the East Notre Dame football field and the mount would house the Temple of Tullamore Dew.///
@ song_and_dance_man:
I have noticed this.
I’d say that if the avatar-critters should ever decide to go to war, at least your avatar will come out unscathed!
NoThreat2U wrote:
Unless you have been there, you probably wouldn’t believe me, but G-d’s presence can actually be felt in Israel (especially Jerusalem). Not figuratively, but literally!
Seriously, go! Go soon, and go often thereafter!
@ Poteen:
ROFLMAO****** That was just…..wrong. LMAO @ Temple of Tullamore Dew. Hahahahahahhahaha You know, if someone here was for the “other” side, there would be a fatwa on your ass. hahahahahahaha
@ WrathofG-d:
I believe you! Just because your religion and mine dispute the divinity of Christ…my religion would not be here without yours. Yours is a precursor to mine. I feel that connection with my Jewish brethren I really do. Like I said, I am PHYSICALLY overwhelmed at the thought.
@ Poteen:
ROFL!
Well, it might be downright weird, but definitely an improvement over the current occupants.
NoThreat2U wrote:
You’d be surprised how many’ Colleen bin McHammads’ have been sent ‘undercovers’. The ‘Final Solution’ will not be kind to Allah.
@ Poteen:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha **peeing my pants** hahahahahahahahahaha If only!!
@ WrathofG-d:
To be sure, I agree. Sorry for the unintentional error.
Gotta go. BBL
WrathofG-d wrote:
Cannot agree with this more. Went in 1995 and need to get back. A visit there will change your life.
B. O. Trash.
Equal Time.
White Trash.
Black Trash.
@ JohnH:
Two things I want to do before I die:
Visit the Holy Land and all she has to offer.
Atetnd a Mass said by the Pope.
I could die happy.
@ NoThreat2U:
Oh and learn how to type without errors. lol
@ NoThreat2U:
The most moving day for me was the day we spent in the Galilee. Went to the Mount of Beatitudes first thing then to Caesarea Phillipi, then up to the Golan (hard to think of a more strategic piece of real estate anywhere else in the world), then to Tagba and final Capernaum. It was there that the reality of Jesus’ life hit me. I remember walking off by myself and weaping, literally, at the reality that was right there in front of me.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Go to Israel in the Spring. The fresh tomatoes and strawberries are unbelievable.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
And stay at a zimmer in a moshav, so you can raid the greenhouse.
Stay at the Hilton, so you can raid the breakfast buffet….;-)
Excellent post, Delectable!