SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM, (R-S.C): Can you give me a case in United States history where a enemy combatant caught on a battlefield was tried in civilian court?
ERIC HOLDER, ATTORNEY GENERAL: I don’t know. I’d have to look at that. I think that, you know, the determination I’ve made --
GRAHAM: We’re making history here, Mr. Attorney General. I’ll answer it for you. The answer is no.
HOLDER: Well, I think --
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Caught an excerpt of that on my local radio while driving home from school… Holder sounded like an incompetent douche. Glad someone finally grew a set to start challenging all these idiots.
Well well, Graham must be up for re election.
I’ve decided to go into suspended animation for the next 3 years…
If something seriously violent happens to b-Ho, please wake me….
vagabond trader wrote:
I am?
(sorry… my first name is Graham, so you can imagine how I feel when I read stories about this guy. It seems popular to refer to him by his surname.)
Anyway, thread derail time! Reposting from down thread because this is important:
Another breaking news that’ll scare the bejeesus out of the global warming mongers if it’s true. The Hadley Climate Research Unit, which is part of/attached to the Met Office here in the UK, has been hacked and thousands of e-mails and files have been released, wherein top climate scientists casually discuss faking data, obfuscating results and ponder destroying their real data in order to prevent skeptics getting hold of it.
IF it’s true it’s a bombshell. The sheer amount of data makes it hard to think it’s anything but true but it will have to be confirmed. Hadley have already circulated an e-mail warning about the hack so it seems likely it will be proven true. This just might be the end of the AGW hoax.
vagabond trader wrote:
He is.
I smell mistrial approaching…………
“0″s agenda:
destroy U.S. free market – CHECK!
destroy U.S. energy policy – CHECK!
destroy national security – CHECK!
destroy judicial system – PENDING…..
@ archonix:
Holy cats, lets hope this is true and they have lots of juicy stuff to share.
bwhahahahaha!
Holder couldn’t answer a single question. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
He clearly does not know the law.
What a maroon. Truly a disgrace to the human race.
@ Foghorn Leghorn:
Couldn’t even prosecute thugs for voter intimidation because hes a coward
On topic.
I was watching this yesterday on Cspan. Talk about chutzpah. Holder told Grassly when asked to produce a list of Justice Dept lawyers who had worked for detainees rights, “I’ll think about it”.
Some Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee were taken aback Wednesday by Attorney General Eric Holder’s refusal to reveal conflicts of interest involving Justice Department lawyers who, before joining the Obama administration, worked on behalf of Guatanamo detainees.
This is sick!
GrandJunctionite wrote:
FTFY
Link
@ davehm:
Boy, did that one come out messy.
On topic:
The sick thing about this asshole’s answer to that question is, he said that he spent six months mulling over all the ups and downs of his decision, don’t you think prior case law, or precedent would have found its way into all of that mulling? This just means he did not spend a minute thinking about it, their mind was made up six months ago, as proven by N.Y. Governor Patterson stating that they told him six months ago to expect this.
Dicks!
Holder is like the dog that runs after cars while barking. Well now that he has finally caught the car he doesn’t know what the hell to do. Kind of like his boss Oblahblah.
@ Rodan:
Isn’t it? I was a young adult during the Watergate scandal,what a huge deal that was for all the world to see. Man does that seem like nothing compared to these criminals.
@ vagabond trader:
No shit. That had slipped my mind.
This idiot loves Black Panthers, mohammedans, but truly hates Americans.
There’s a lot more to this maggot than meets the eye.
@ GrandJunctionite:
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
There is nothing new under the sun.
GrandJunctionite wrote:
OK let’s see if it’s fixed.
It’s just another part of the stratagem to fundamentally change America.
These people must be stopped.
davehm wrote:
heh. I got it.
@ vagabond trader:
It wasn’t. (Nixon was a Republican)
some things never change.
@ davehm:
To my shame I am totally incompetent with the quote and italics thingie. Cannot get them to come out right. The scratch out and link, fuggedaboutit.
Truck Monkey wrote:
That reminds me of an old Golf saying,
Pro’s who make pars, are like Dogs that chase cars.
Neither last that long.
Lets hope the same is true for Holder.
@ Xeon:
True, but a lot of the Rs got their panties in a twist over Nixon too.The biggest complaint Ds have about Hussein is that he isn’t moving further leftward.
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Fourty seats in the House. Turn over fourty seats in 2010 & the Republicans have a firewall.
And again, as I said this morning, because this is unprecedented, it will go to the SCOTUS, no matter which way the trial goes.
Foghorn Leghorn wrote:
Overbroad. It’s quite sufficient to observe that he’s a disgrace to the office he holds, and has no right to lecture his fellow Americans—many of whom are not disgraces to their positions—about their “cowardice,” or anything else.
@ RIX:
They better start acting like they want one. 2010 is upon us and these commies have been in charge almost a year.
Meanwhile,, the Rev Jackson says:
FOXNews.com
The Rev. Jesse Jackson said Wednesday night that any black lawmaker who votes against President Obama’s sweeping health care overhaul isn’t really black, the Hill newspaper reported.
In light of the hubub that was made during the election regarding Obowma’s relations to domestic terrorists is the following regarding Obowma’s pick for AG:
Holder and the Pardon of Marc Rich
Holder also played a role in the presidential pardon granted to the billionaire financier Marc Rich, a fugitive oil broker who had illegally purchased oil from Iran during the American trade embargo — and who then proceeded to hide more than $100 million in profits by using dummy transactions in off-shore corporations.
…
Holder was also intimately involved in President Clinton’s August 11, 1999 pardon of 16 members of the FALN, acronym for the Armed Forces of National Liberation—a violent terrorist organization (as designated by the FBI) that was active in the U.S. from the mid-1970s through the early 1980s.
The FALN was a Marxist-Leninist group whose overriding mission was to secure Puerto Rico’s political independence from the United States.
…
Holder has stated that he is personally opposed to the death penalty.
…
This might explain why he stopped the execution of KSM, and sent it to Civil Court in NY]
I suspect B. Hussein is doing this to suck up once again to the Muslims and is in essence another way to bow vicariously and with a double dip sets up further his insistence to change the way things have traditionally been, setting the stage for further socialization and deconstruction of our laws.
vagabond trader wrote:
It’s pretty sure that my Distict will go back Republioan.
Dennis Hatert’s son is running for that seat. We need 39 more.
Note, by the way, that if Obama’s shooting his mouth off about KSM’s guilt is held to have irredeemably tainted the judicial process, KSM may well walk. Charles Manson almost walked because Nixon did something similar. If the civilian court process is ruled tainted by the President’s remarks, KSM will surely not be handed back to military jurisdiction, so could—conceivably—walk free, Ayers style.
This might seem like an incredible blunder. But in fact it would provide a chance for the show-trial indictment of Bush Administration practices before letting KSM loose—and Obama would be relieved of the need to confine him at Gitmo, or anywhere else.
This is part of the problem when you have folks who think too much like lawyers and not enough like warriors. There are some instances in life when thinking like a lawyer can actually inhibit and jeopardize one’s activities, and I think this whole situation is one of those cases. Try KSM et al., in a military tribunal and be done with it.
traditionally been done. Must have that ‘done’ in there. Rats, there is no edit button. Wrath, or another admin, can you fix that?
Good for Sen. Graham! Trouble is, there’s nothing to stop this from happening. We’re in for it. Anyone know when these trials will commence?
@ archonix:
I’ve downloaded the zip, and scanned it for viruses (it didn’t find any). It seems authentic, for reasons that are too involved to get into, but there’s always the concern that it’s spiked. Proving that it wasn’t dinked with is going to be just about impossible.
Time for Sen Inhofe to issue some subpoenas.
GrandJunctionite wrote:
Hmmmm, how about this then:
any
blackwhite lawmaker who votesagainstfor President Obama’s sweeping health care overhaul isn’t reallyblackwhite…oh, I see I’m a racist now…..
I just turned on Mark Levin. He is launching a “Levin Surge.”
Here are the Dems to call to line out abt. the proposed Sat. vote on Health Care.
Mary Landrieu LA. 202-224-5824
Ben Nelson NE 202-224-6551
Blanche Lincoln AK 202-224-4843
Evan Bayh IN 202-224-5623
They need to be advised to do the right thing. Call
@ vagabond trader:
They are all admirers of Mao. The best analogy for Obama isn’t Hitler/Nazis, it’s Mao. His administration is Maoist in nature.
davehm wrote:
Now it’s fixed.
@ RIX:
If Dodd doesn’t opt for discovering lost ballots in car trunks we could have an R senator in CT. That has not happened for many a year.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I heard that Obama said that if KSM walks, he won’t be let back into the U.S.
Which would be great had he actually needed to be in the U.S. when he planned 9/11 A-Z. Seriously, has he ever actually been in the U.S. until we brought/bring him here for trial?
Obama & Co. can’t really be this stupid, it has to be on purpose.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
He’s certainly not making lawyers look good. As I’m sure you well know, that takes work.
@ chickadee:
Thanks chick. This is horrifying. I’d like to see a thread on the all important topic.We must not fall victim to the diversionary tactics Hussein Co. are using to take our eyes off the monstrous healthcare bill.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
That is a fine point, and I’m fairly certain you are referring to this. Just last night B. Hussein, in his interview with Major Garret, said with certainty that KSM WILL BE CONVICTED. B. Hussein has to know what a statement like that means ala Nixon and Manson. He did that on purpose; I’m convinced of that.
WrathofG-d wrote:
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze don’ fling me in dat briar patch, Br’er Obama! You kin waterboard me, you kin lock me up, you kin put me in solitary, but plllleeeeeeeeeeeze don’ fling me in dat briar patch!
vagabond trader wrote:
Dodd is gone, too much to steal, like the NJ governors race.
Ried looks like toast. Illinois, I would wager will elect Republican Congtressman Mark Kirk to Obama’s old Senate seat.
THe Republicans could havea really big night.
@ WrathofG-d:
He went to school here and speaks fluent English. Nice huh?
http://patdollard.com/2009/11/ksm-the-american-college-student/
vagabond trader wrote:
I just tried to call Landrieu and got the main # of the senate. I guess the lines are overwhelmed.
But keep trying. A phone call that gets thru is one more resonating NO.
@ RIX:
This is why they are in such a hurry to remake the USA in their commie image. The window of opportunity is limited and this makes them very dangerous imho.
@ WrathofG-d:
It’s all by design.
@ WrathofG-d:
ksm attended school here and apparently speaks excellent English. Nice huh?
WrathofG-d wrote:
It is on purpose. B. Hussein wants to change the way things are done here in America and with many of his policies attempts to set new precedence that will be built upon in the future. He is a fan of the dangerous slippery slope style of politics.
@ Rodan:
All of them have never read or met a Komrade they don’t admire or emulate.
vagabond trader wrote:
Yes , they are in a huge hurry & they don’t want us to notice. They announce anything major on the weekend to avoid the news cycle.
A big hurry to take over the economy. To reenforce our troops in afghanistan, not so much.
Later gators.
father_of_10 wrote:
LOL thanks, with all the stalkers watching this blog I don’t think it would be wise to even joke like that.
Just reading the phrase, “If KSM walks. . . ” stops me in my tracks.
What a nightmare to consider.
If this monster gets off, Zero needs to go to jail.
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Remember that his mentor Ayers walked free because of alleged prosecutorial misconduct.
WrathofG-d wrote:
I say let his live next door to me and the many Military officers that live around here. Don’t worry he will not be seen again, a boat ride out 100+ miles off tha coast of New England would be nice right now.
@ vagabond trader:
That’s why they love Hugo Chavez.
vagabond trader wrote:
With the amount of Anti-Israel terrorists educated in the U.S. (or Israeli Universities) this is not surprising at all. Sick, depressing, and upsetting…but not surprising.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Your right, maybe BO his hoping for the same thing with KSM?
@ davehm:
What about this Dave?
http://www.examiner.com/x-22153-Cleveland-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2009m11d13-Psalm-1098-Obama-bumper-sticker-news-makes-Google-Trends-list
@ davehm:
I won’t go quite that far. I will, however, observe that the skilled palooka knows how to take a dive and make it look natural.
@ song_and_dance_man:
Obama is an attorney, and supposedly a very well educated one. This only further gives weight to the fact that it cannot be a mistake. (ignoring the amount of law his AG seems not to know).
As the friend of Terrorist Hasan said, “let Americans get pissed now about my encouragement of his act, they will all get distracted and forget all about this in a couple days.”
@ vagabond trader:
Ha, we were talking about that yesterday.
@ davehm:
Wonder if anyone displaying the bumper stickers will be getting arrested like the poor slob with the “Don’t Tread on Me” one.
Headline at Drudge – ‘Climate change pushes poor women to prostitution, dangerous work’
@ vagabond trader:
Write one up for us! There’s alotta crazy going on with that thing.
@ WrathofG-d:
I think Holder is just playing dumb.
He knows damned well what he is doing.
@ wolfie:
I agree with your statements, with the addition that his performance of “dumb” is TONY-worthy.
@ vagabond trader:
Probably not, a leftist would have to open a bible to find out what it says, the problem being that no true leftist would be caught dead with a bible in their hand. On that note, if some were to call the driver on the sticker verse all the driver would have to do is invoke the leftwing defense “Well, that’s your interpretation of it”.
Army limits media access at Palin event at NC base
What tha heck?
@ m:
I would try m, there’s so much deceit and underhandedness I don’t think my aching head would be able to compose anything coherent.
@ teacake:
Hmmm, so its the weather that is to blame. Whodda thunk.
@ wolfie:
I wonder if President Obama and AG Holder are aware of this document.
“When in the Course of human events…”
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I didn’t know that, but it lends clarity to this wayward choice to give enemy combatants constitutional guarantee while they are not citizens. It affords terrorists, who unlike Ayers, to be given rights where there should be no right to constitutional protection, the same provisions under our laws.
Obama Supporter & Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan Blames Bush for Fort Hood
Yeah? I blame mo.
@ m:
Hes mellowing,no mention of da Juice being involved.
@ WrathofG-d:
They know exactly what they are doing. These trails will give legitimacy to the complaints of the Muslims as victims in relation to the Zionist agenda that America was and is complicit to. And the soapbox for this outlandish program will be provided by B. Hussein and Co. with a really nice bow on top.
@ m:
If being called names, persecuted, and insulted for your religion were an excuse for what Islam is doing, Jews (with our history) would be murdering people everywhere.
@ song_and_dance_man:
I have, in the past, suggested that people read Ralph Ellison’s excellent novel “Invisible Man,” which deals with racial issues in midcentury America. It is a deeply layered work, one of the best novels of the last century—but, more, it contains an extended section in which “the Brotherhood” (the Communist Party) picks the unnamed narrator out of the crowd and offers him the chance to become a “community organizer,” with the promise that he will be “the next Booker T. Washington”—if he follows orders.
This novel was read by everybody in the early ’60s. It would certainly have been read by Bill Ayers, and by many of the other radicals of that generation, ten years and more senior to Obama, who have supported, and who surround, the President—including the Black Muslim who assisted Obama in getting into Harvard, the attorneys who first hired him, etc.
Zombie, during the campaign, did an excellent exploration of Obama’s years at Columbia, and his interests at the time—which, coincidentally, coincided with the last years of the Weather Underground’s activity and with Bill Ayers’ residence in New York City not far from where Obama lived. Despite extensive research, revealing many parallels and seeming near convergences, zombie was unable to establish that Ayers and Obama actually met or worked together at that time. Nonetheless, it is difficult if one reads zombie’s report and is familiar with Ellison’s work to wholly quash the suspicion that we are seeing life mirror art, on the national scale, to an astounding degree.
@ song_and_dance_man:
Agreed. Not only an indictment of Bush-Cheney, but a screed against Israel.The original intent of ksm along with the 9/11 atrocities was to hijack another plane, land it, then make his case against America and the Jews.
Louis Farrakhan: As you know, since 9/11, in America and in other parts of the world, those anti-Islamic forces have stepped up their efforts to make Muslims… to cause the Muslims to be looked at as uncivilized, savage, or wicked people. This is an attempt by anti-Islamic forces
Interesting, but no one was anti islamic or even thought much about islam, until they started up with all the jihads
@ m:
Of course. If only AlGore hadn’t been cheated out of his rightful place in the White House, then the eeevil Bushitler wouldn’t have been able to implement his nefarious plot, along with the Juice, to frame innocent, peace-loving Muslims around the world. There were NO Muslim terrorists prior to 9/12. Bushitler’s war on Islam created them because Mohammed was being attacked for no reason. We know that there were tens of millions of people nationwide insulting Allah and Mohammed. Mosques were torched by the thousands. Korans were used for toilet paper in schools, military installations, churches & temples. Innocent Muslims were beaten, even slaughtered around the world by Bushitlers evil minions.
//
@ WrathofG-d:
Now, now, Wrath. That is an outdated screed written by a dead, white, Euro-centric, phallocratic slaveholder. Worse yet, from the text itself you can see he was……gasp!….a creationist!!!!
@ wolfie:
LOL!
WrathofG-d wrote:
Yep. But I don’t see any of that holding islamists back. Bush went out of his way to make nicey with muslims.
OT: It is possible to fake DNA evidence.
If President Bush had made a comment that a defendant would be convicted and put to death regardless of the trial, countless American lives would have been lost…………..trampled to death by the stampede of ACLU lawyers rushing to the microphones and TV cameras to denounce him. I guess we should be grateful that it was a Democrat that said that.
Hey, that would make a good new statistic for this administration. The number of American lives saved or not killed…..
LGoPs wrote:
That is classic.
@ m:
This whole claim of being islamophobic for pointing out the threat, and violence of Islam is ridiculous. Ignoring a real threat is not moral, its suicide. Any American with 1/2 a brain would/should be “islamophobic”. Calling Americans “Islamophobic” after 9/11 is like calling the Founding Fathers Anglophobic!
If the ignorant masses don’t like it, they can go back to the Queen!
Its too bad Bush wasn’t the president now trying to pull all of this shit. The left would be rioting in the streets and calling it for what it is, but prefer somehow not to notice these days.
wolfie wrote:
Right, and as some not-so-intellectuals like to claim: “unpatriotic”
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I think I saw that on Law and Order a few years ago.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I am convinced that the Ayers connection is why he ended up in Chicago in the first place. Why Chicago? In his autobiography he never explains that choice. Why not stay in New York? Why not go back to the Pacific coast?
@ teacake:
Or, to put it another way: The truth hurts.
wolfie wrote:
why not chicago, its the perfect place to train under the thugocracy and have many very safe democrat seats ready for the prodigy, after he is well trained.
@ WrathofG-d:
Hear, hear!
I’m partial to living. It’s a quirk.
I’m pretty sure he’s an android, possibly made in a secret lab on the campus. (lol)
@ m:
I bid you adieu!
/chuckie
@ LGoPs:
I think they’d need a czar to be in charge of collecting the data for that statistic.
Can I have the job? I’m not busy at the moment.
Oh, wait…I paid my taxes this year. Damn.
@ coldwarrior:
Just guessing… met some big time union people, acorn people… offered him a promising future?
savage wrote:
Heh heh… I bid his ass adieu long ago! ~:D
teacake wrote:
and the daley machine can help out….
chicago is the right choice as an area to train a stealth candidate. its away from the media on the coast and is oh so safe for democrats.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
The connections to Ayers and many other meretricious B. Hussein associations are, so far, unlinked, with the exception of Frank Marshall Davis and the un-Rev. Wright. But it is a known fact B. Hussein launched his IL senatorial campaign in the house of Ayers.
That is enough to suspect the worse.
@ m:
Ya did good, my liege.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that
allsome men arecreated equalevolved more then others , that they are endowed bytheir Creatorevolution / Dick Dawkins with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Health insurance, Cap and Trade, Carbon credits and giving Zero lotsa Lunch money. That to secure these rights,GovernmentsObama was instituted over Men, derivingtheirhis just powers from the consent of a few stupid dhimmicraps.@ m:
Aint that the truth!
@ teacake:
“sought out the radicals…” Begged for some street cred. His half-whiteness wasn’t going to stop him!
and belated happy birthday M.
@ m:
I guess that’s what they mean by “Overcoming adversity” these days.
Wow, Lindsey Graham actually did something right. He is making history!
Heh™
Rodan wrote:
Liberal appeaser
@ song_and_dance_man:
All I can say is, read the novel, and zombie’s report at zombietime (in no particular order). The similarities between the “Brotherhood” chapters—before the narrator wakes up—and a certain picaresque hero’s progress to the White House are striking.
@ coldwarrior:
Thanks man! We’ve missed you!
lobo91 wrote:
You mean overcoming diversity.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
our local (now on xm, too) morning conservative went through that whole story a while back. it was fascinating.
@ Iron Fist:
~zing~
He was bound to stumble into something sometime…
@ coldwarrior:
If they decide to take the Gitmo detainees there, we could just wall the whole city off.
O’Rieley interviewing Sarah Palin right now.
As usual he is making it about him, “This is how I would have done it”
He is contrasting his self absorbed image of himself at her expense.
Part 2 coming up after the break.
@ coldwarrior:
Hey how are you!
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Ok…what happens next? I didn’t read the book and probably won’t but it would be interesting if the book mimics BO’s decisions.
RIX wrote:
O’Reilly Kitchen Sponges™!
Now with more self-absorbing power!
@ RIX:
I’ll pass.
Already had oral surgery today.
@ m:
i had a tough 4 days. super busy…now i’m good till monday afternoon.
@ song_and_dance_man:
He lived in the same neighborhood as Ayers when he was in NY. In his autobiography he says he hung out with the radicals in his neighborhood and even attended the seminars at the Marxist center down the street. Then right after graduation he went to Chicago.
Someone w/ connections in Chicago must have lured him there. Ayers is as good a bet as any. Just my theory.
@ RIX:
I don’t have a tv RIX, so an update will be most amusing.
@ vagabond trader:
The left are using very dangerous tools to build a new socialist leaning American paradigm. I guess we can adopt a wait and see what becomes of this attitude, but the boding and wait smells with a stench that would not be welcome in the nostrils of our founders.
Bumr50 wrote:
nah, i like chitown…lets send ‘em to johnstown…we wont have to wall them off there ’cause they will never find there way outta that hole!
@ buzzsawmonkey:
@ wolfie:
@ teacake:
He’s not much better in the 2nd half. He is telling her what she did wrong & how he would have done it right.
Imo O’reiley is a self-absorbed ass.
Rodan wrote:
physically tired, mentally exhausted, and exhilarated!
i learned more in the past three days than in the past 5 years.
No doubt RIX she’s responding very politely and keeping her cool.
The cost in $$ of having the terror trial in NYC.
WARNING: Gruesome pic of fugly mofo.
http://www.examiner.com/x-28163-St-Louis-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m11d19-Schumer-says-911-trial-costs-could-exceed-100M
As long as we’re talking about bringing KSM to New York for trial, how ’bout we talk about bringing Obama to Washington to do his fucking job. Cavorting around the world in permanent campaign mode is not doing your job Mr President. You may have gotten by at Harvard by slacking off but that doesn’t cut it in your current position. Or is actually doing your job above your pay grade?
Assface.
teacake wrote:
I think that she did well,but I like her.
@ coldwarrior:
Make sure Murtha’s actually in his district first…
@ Bumr50:
Getting ready for the big ta do?
Bumr50 wrote:
oh yeah…he can lead them into town!
@ LGoPs:
LOL!
I never did find the article from a few weeks after inauguration when Michelle was quoted about how happy they were to finally get out of the WH… they don’t like living there, they don’t feel at home in it and will find all sorts of reasons to leave the property.
Maybe less then a month, they couldn’t stand their new digs.
Classy act.
From the funny farm:
First of all, Dr. Spencer isn’t a “denier”, even if you accept that kind of language as legitimate. Secondly, your hero, James Hansen is also a creationist. Thirdly, no rational person cares if someone is a creationist.
Liar and dip.
@ vagabond trader:
Mom-in-law is here, and our flight leaves tomorrow at 3 pm.
I can’t wait!
@ vagabond trader:
Yeah, but look on the bright side: $100 million=eleventy billion jobs created in the 473rd Congressional District of NY.
And btw, Chuckles, what say you about ManBearPig’s ideas about the temperature of the earth core?
Bumr50 wrote:
getahhta tahn! yinz goin aht aht?
lobo91 wrote:
Here’s an $100 million dollar senator
teacake wrote:
They won’t say it—and the media would never intimate it—but I would bet money that they are not only intimidated but shamed (quietly and secretly) by the White House. Not only because they know in their heart of hearts that they are mountebanks with no business there, and that they don’t measure up to some of the greats who occupied the same house, but because they also know that their job is to tear down everything that edifice stands for.
And that is why they leave whenever possible. It is not the house that is whispering to them, “Geeeeeeeeeet ouuuuuuuuuuuut!”; it is their own vestigial consciences.
@ davehm:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/11/the-100-million-health-care-vote.html
link
@ lobo91:
LOL!
@ Bumr50:
Go Bumr! Hey, I hope she knows she’s gotta share you with us! lol!
@ buzzsawmonkey:
In about 6 months that will be the whole nation.
@ Bumr50:
Have a blast and don’t listen to coldwarrior, be careful with the sun.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
LOL That sounds exactly right. They know they are frauds and interlopers.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
i like that theory
@ coldwarrior:
Getn hitched in Mexico!
BBL! Figuring out camera
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I’m taking your recommendation for Emerson’s book, but I’ll have you know its order supersedes the Kipling plug.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Actually I think they have quite a few laughs in the WH at the expense of typical white bitter clingers.Shame,ha!
vagabond trader wrote:
have fun bumr!
yinz gointa blumfilled?
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I don’t give their consciences that much credit buzz. I think these are cold, souless people that have no respect for the institution but only disdain. I think they laugh to themselves about how they ‘got over’ and beat the man.
It is we who should be ashamed of who we’ve chosen to occupy that House of the People. I know I am.
In short, I think they suck. The Big Wazoo.
@ m:
@ vagabond trader:
Thanks guys!
She’s jealous of you guys, but who wouldn’t be?
/
Bumr50 wrote:
good luck!
@ buzzsawmonkey:
That’s an interesting thought.
Sometimes, no matter how good you are at conning other people, no matter how pleased you are that you won, you can’t quite fool yourself.
OT
It is ironic that the site that “Fact Checks Your Ass” is currently talking about and supporting the global warming hoax, just as the rest of the blogsphere is reeling with the release of a certain zip file.
Hey Lizzards, fact check this!
Research needed.
Fact Check needed.
Yes if it is real they have deleted the files now and will lie lie lie.
but if it real some of them will rat out the others
http://www.wattsupwiththat.com
Hadley Climate Research Unit e-mails ect hacked.
this is important
“recon” tells the tale of the battle that occurs later
@ coldwarrior:
Aht sliberty avenue, then dahn a rocks for Primadonna.
Hi folks!
Hey “M” – Happy Birthday girl!
LGoPs wrote:
I agree 100%.
coldwarrior wrote:
i mean with the marriage and all, not with figuring out the camera…
that requires more than luck.
@ LGoPs:
LG, unfortunately I lived in an apartment with quite a few cold blooded narcissists. I think rather than feel actual guilt or shame when they are up to no good, the subconscious knows whats going on, but the ego twists it around into smug denials and blaming others.
Just my theory.
Hi Honey!
@ savages_girl:
hi kiddo
Bumr50 wrote:
she’s one lucky yinzer!
now go away and have fun!
@ savages_girl:
Hey lady! Thanks! How’ve you been?!
“If they won’t be swayed by the power of persuasion, they will yield to the persuasion of power.”
“When in the course of human events….”
@ wolfie:
That’s what I meant wolfie, but you said it much better!
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Ellison, not Emerson. Ralph Ellison. He was one of the earliest black conservative writers of the modern era. He wrote little after “Invisible Man,” mostly short pieces—and had a tragic fire late in life which destroyed the longer work he had been laboring over. However, his place in the literary pantheon is, in my opinion, ensured by “Invisible Man.”
I am SO glad Senator Graham is tearing the AG a new asshole!
just a matter of time till they build a mosque on the property
teacake wrote:
I agree teacake. I used to be married to a narcissist and it almost killed me. No kidding. The best rule for dealing with a narcissist is to run as fast and as far away as you can. There is no dealing with them.
Hard to do when one is running the country though.
Hello everysone. I speak to ze story of ze post first, no? Holdiar and Obama sink zey can put Bush and ze CIA on trial and not feel ze political consequences. Zere ez ze element on ze left zat needs to see ze USA punished for what zey sink are ets crimes. Zey hungair for justice to damage ze USA, even if zey have not the stomach to admeet zees. No good zat we do can wash away ze spots of blood they see on zere hands.
@ m:
#178 – doing ok. Actually, I’m WIPED OUT from work. The last several weeks have been really hectic and this week is really hideous what with the short (holiday) week next week. I feel like somebody has whacked me with a 2 x 4… how’ve you been? When are you celebrating the birthday? Today, tomorrow, and the whole weekend? Where’ve you been?
@ wolfie:
There is a devious complexity behind this Manchurian candidate that has yet to be revealed.
Let’s think about it. He became a community organizer in Chicago after a purported successful education in law. He was thrust on the national stage after invited to the 2004 DNC election shindig as keynote speaker and then elected as an IL senator to Congress and from there became POTUS in a time span that would make King George jealous.
Now we may consider this an atypical career that is motion picture script like in essence, but there is more here than meets the eye that just fortune for a lucky one.
No one is that lucky.
LGoPs wrote:
I got away after the damage was done.
I pray the damage they are attempting fails and backfires on all of those bastards. Something has to give. There is just no way this gov takeover can really happen. Really is like a nightmare and each morning you wake up to find out its not a dream.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
That was a typo after the fact. The book has been ordered…by Ellison.
@ savages_girl:
It’ll be the weekend before I can celebrate. But tonight my kids cooked dinner and the hubby cleaned up the mess! This is cause for a celebration all on it’s own! lol!
(i’m with ya on the work thang. with Thanksgiving it’s like we really only have 3 weeks this month. big fun!)
@ m:
Hey, happy birthday!
I’m hoping the flights will be OK tomorrow. I guess there was an FAA flight plan SNAFU today that wasn’t pleasant for travelers.
Foghorn Leghorn wrote:
Actually with the Affirmative Action Law Degree from Costco, Holder’s answers gave him an A, and he graduated Smegma Cum Loude.
Good of Sen. Graham to ask a pointed question. Might have been nice to question Holder a little more like that when his confirmation was the issue.
Perhaps he’d like to explain his vote to confirm Holder in light of his apparent incompetence to be an attorney much less AG.
@ song_and_dance_man:
Soros has a lot to do with it. There’s a few articles out there about how he groomed zero to become senator. Zero is pulling of Soros dream of dreams. Just wonder who else is involved in Soros brood.
@ Possum:
It’s nuttier than that. A couple days after AlGore says that the earth’s core is millions of degrees, they’re flipping out because Rush has the temerity to point out that AlGore’s photoshopped pictures are photoshopped.
And when one of them calls AlGore an idiot, he gets downdinged. Well, shiite. If the earth’s core is millions of degrees, no wonder it’s getting kind hot…
@ Frenchie:
Frenchie, bon jour mon ami. You heve zee logic no?
Don’t check my spelling, I took Spanish.
@ Frenchie:
Bullseye! Or, as they say in France, “ze eye of ze bull!”
kansas wrote:
LOL!!!!!
@ teacake:
Pretty much the entire left. Their wallets anyway.
Also at the funny farm, Ron Paul is in a conspiracy to take over the Fed.
@ Bumr50:
You guys are probably already on cloud 9 ~ the flight will be nothing! ~:D
Congratulations!!
Crusader Rabbit wrote:
Great point. The inconsistency is what drives me nuts. Just a couple weeks ago I saw the same Graham on Fox arguing in support of the Fairness Doctrine. That made me lose it. I think I scared my neighbors by screaming at my TV. I know I traumatized my dogs. It was nice to see Holder being grilled but the lack of discipline on the Republican side just drives me nuts.
Anyone catch Hannity tonight? He said on the radio he had a really good ACORN expose. Very curious what happened this time.
@ snork:
Irony of ironies. Chuckles is outraged because someone is exposing a photoshop!
@ RIX:
I undairstand, I knew someone from barcelona once.
@ wolfie:
How do we keep zem from getting away weese et, I am wondering.
With respect to those who differ, and believe that the Obamas are laughing at us while in the White House, I disagree.
Laugh they may—but they would not be fleeing it at every opportunity if they felt comfortable there. You may recall that almost as soon as they’d dropped their bags in the front hall, they mobilized a motorcade to go out for pizza or something, because they “couldn’t stand being cooped up there.”
Yes, they may laugh—but it is the uneasy laugh of the ruler who deeply fears the tread of the jacquerie, and who is haunted in the night, despite his best efforts, by the ghosts that in the daylight he brazenly pretends do not trouble his sleep. To quote another great work of the last century, Robert Penn Warren’s “All the King’s Men,” they cannot stand the house’s eyes upon them.
snork wrote:
That’s right. Don’t look , don’t ask any questions.
Washed up guitar players know best.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
THat’s the article I’ve been looking for – do you have a link to that buzz?
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Yepper…
He`s a made man, has never even had to work that hard at anything,
When he ran for senator he had all his opponents discualified.
It`s all been handed to him on a silver platter…
He was given POTUS…the same way the mafia would do it..
I really do believe the fix was in
just my 2 cents
Hi everybody
@ m:
Thanks!
Frenchie wrote:
Frenchie, muy bueno amigo.
teacake wrote:
No, I rely on that old thing called “human memory.” I know I read it, but I didn’t save a reference.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I have deep respect for your viewpoints and your eloquence buzz and I’m willing to consider what you say.
But I still think they suck.
RIX wrote:
Hi, I’m Kansas and I’ve been LGF free, no peeking, for 3 days.
wolfie wrote:
Is that going on presently?
wolfie wrote:
It’s who’s exposing the photoshop done by whom that bothers him.
RIX wrote:
maybe he has one of those affirmative action econ degrees from cosco?
@ Bumr50:
I wonder what’ll happen once they get everyone’s medical records loaded into their central database and they have one of those SNAFUs?
kansas wrote:
great, just what we need, a 12 step program led by rodan and savage!
hi kansas! i havent looked in two months!
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I read it to and could never find it again.
@ kansas:
Hi, I’m Kansas and I’ve been LGF free, no peeking, for 3 days.
You’re getting better every day. Baby steps.
@ kansas:
(all) “Hi Kansas!”
If KSM doesn’t end up dead one way or another, then this could be the end of 0bama, as far as politics go. At least I hope it would be.
KSM was going to plead guilty and insisted upon the death penalty if he was going in front a military court. That sounds like a fair deal to me, so why would H0lder choose a civilian trial all of a sudden?
Why grant terrorists and enemy combatants more rights than they are entitled to and why move the trail to a civilian court, where it will turn into a sham and a circus, not to mention the uncertainty as to the final outcome? And even if the scumbag terrorist is found guilty, will he actually be executed?
None of the other terrorists connected to Al-Qaeda have been given death when convicted in civilian courts in this country. Will KSM and 0sama Bin Laden end up in prison for life playing checkers with each other and reading the koran after they’ve been tried in civilian court?
This sets a very bad precedent for how future terrorists can expected to be treated also. The 0bama administration has got to be the worst administration since the founding of this country. Current day Somalia is practically run better than the current US.
LGoPs wrote:
On that, we certainly agree.
@ teacake:
Yes, that’s going on presently. The top thread about Rush.
@ Mad Mullah:
I’ve been expressing fear that Holder will actually find a guilty verdict by perverting our legal system and thereby setting a disgusting precedent by the most powerful prosecutor in the land.
Rather than respecting our legal system, these buffoons feel that it’s theirs to molest because they won an election.
Mad Mullah wrote:
Please please please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I never thought our own government would be so cold and so bold to turn against us in the fashion they’ve been doing at lightening speed.
‘Nite, folks.
teacake wrote:
Try as much as others -and many have- to make the connection to Soros to the advent and rise of B. Hussein, but so far there are no facts in that regard. But it has been speculated, but ends just there.
He makes more money than I’ll ever see and then calls America racist.
@ coldwarrior:
I’m tempted too look what the reporting on the idiocy.
I don’t want to give in.
kansas wrote:
Hi Kansas… Good for You.
It gets easier, now I`d poke myself in the eye before looking over there anymore
Just too Depressing!
kansas wrote:
be strong. you can make it…eventually the urges go away.
it takes 96 hours to get out of your body.
Good evening, everybody!
Cannot believe Eric Holder’s performance before the Judiciary Committee. Well, come to think about it, yes, I can. (Somehow that last phrase is unpleasantly familiar.) Affirmative action in all its glory. And that goes triple for his even-more incompetent boss.
@ song_and_dance_man:
I found about 2 or 3 articles from quite a few years ago that covered it, and wasn’t speculations. Had pictures too.
@ Lolly Gator:
The flight to the highest office in the world from a Johnny come Lately smacks of a set up. That’s just my opinion.
Mad Mullah wrote:
I think that the left has a tremendous anger towards the right. Far greater an anger than they show to our real enemies. And this anger makes them dangerous because it causes them to do things that in effect ‘cut off their nose to spite their face’. The only possible logic there can be to this otherwise sand poundingly stupid gesture is to unleash the ACLU and it’s far left lawysres on the preceding administration and put it on trial. And damn the consequences to the country.
The left is truly dangerous and is a domestic enemy. One that I swore an oath to defend the Constitution against. I’m a lot older now than when I took that oath but I am fighting mad.
Way OT
For those so inclined, it’s time to get those sock puppies you’ve always wanted so you can yank the pony-tail.
that is all
I now return you to your regularly scheduled program.
@ snork:
THanks, lol i’ll have a little look then.
@ Mad Mullah:
terrorism should be an act of war and the terrorists treated as such.
terrorism is not a law issue, it is an act of war. if a state bombed NYC, we would go to war with that state…we can substitute individuals for state, its real easy.
@ Bumr50:
Bumr, Mr. Wolf and I were married on Thankgiving weekend over 25 years (and 4 kids) ago. We’ll drink a toast to you and your bride on our own anniversary!
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I remember when that story broke, they were in there less then a month or two and starting whining that their being all “cooped up”
@ song_and_dance_man:
I tend to agree. This guy isn’t smart enough to get elected dog catcher on his own. Sorry to prick people’s bubbles, but he just isn’t.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
‘Nite buzz.
7 Sharmuta
Thu, Nov 19, 2009 6:34:52pm replyquote 3downupreport
Dear Newbies-
Welcome to LGF. If you need something to help break the commenting ice, how about telling us what brought you to LGF? Always an interesting story. Hope you have fun, just remember to play nice.
Sincerely, Sharmuta
She is always carrying Charles’s water.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Memory is a wonderful thing, and what it provides, with no ‘links’ ascribed to the forgotten filling of it, must be afforded credence if the filled is prone to right talk.
@ teacake:
And just so you don’t have to go hunting, this is what they’re losing their cookies over.
I mean, really. Can’t you even get the rotation of your fake hurricane right, ManBearPig?
RIX wrote:
Gag me with a spoon.
@ davehm:
I was responding to buzzsaw’s #206 I don’t know how Ralph ended up in the quote box.
I did do a search on him.
CynicalConservative wrote:
Noooooooooooooooooo………………………….
@ RIX:
Wondering if I should use my current sock to repost Snork’s beautiful departure memo.
teacake wrote:
If you can re-find those articles or writings everyone on the right would be grateful.
LGoPs wrote:
For sure.
RIX wrote:
On one or 2 of the times she went after me she spoke for CJ as if it was her job. It was really odd.
Anyhow, took a peek over there and after skimping down to post 30ish… my head started swimming.
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Its possible I saved those links. Wasn’t hard really to find in a yahoo search with just a few key words. I’ll have a look and will post if I find them
RIX wrote:
Hi, Sharmuta! I came to LGF because I was hearing all these stories all over the internet about what a raging nuthouse it is, and I wanted to see for myself. So far I am not disappointed. Thanks for entertaining me.
Newbie Sockpuppet
kansas wrote:
STEADY….take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard!
@ RIX:
She has the acumen and grace of a trailer park strumpet.
song_and_dance_man wrote:
great name for a band
@ teacake:
On one or 2 of the times she went after me she spoke for CJ as if it was her job. It was really odd.
I only had one back & forth with Sharmuta & it was over Van Jones.
She didn’t like that I said that he had a jail house conversion to Marxism. She said “you make himsound like a jail bird”
Not what I said. He was in the joint when it happened.
Then she said something like he only learned about Marism in jail & probably converted later. WTF?
I just said ‘this is over.”
Not the Soros article I was looking for but very interesting.
song_and_dance_man wrote:
But a devoted strumpet. She is not nearly as insipid as Weasel though.
When you really think about, the confidence those who support the idea of trying KSM in the continental United States must either be so foolish to think it is a slam dunk win for the feds, thus a win/win in their pacifist situation.
Can you imagine if this does go to trial, and in one shape or form, he gets acquitted?
You have given me a scathingly brilliany idea…
Might just do just thatCynicalConservative wrote:
I have a plan…
I`m may just cause a bit of mischief…hehehe
Sorry meant brilliant!
Gypsy wrote:
I don’t know why, but that cracked me up.
Formercorpsman wrote:
The he can run for office on the Democratic ticket in that case. We already have Sen Dick Durbin (D – Al Quaeda)……
@ Formercorpsman:
I don’t think they see the downside to that.
@ teacake:
SHEESH!
I’m going to have to remember to start bookmarking more.
Anyway, I was drawn to this site as it was claiming to take a free-market approach to solving global problems such as hunger and disease.
After researching the site, I found that Soros daughter Andrea is a board member.
Sneaky Soros’s.
RIX wrote:
like the recording you hear as you enter the Magic Kingdom.
@ Bumr50:
AARGH. Forgot linky.
HERE.
@ Bumr50:
dude, they are everywhere…i used to help write grants in grad school. soros cash is everywhere.
Oh lord, I have so many links saved from during the election. I think it will take hours to find. Some of the articles I saved, are now gone. But these are interesting even if not what I was looking for
http://www.muckety.com/saved-map/Obama-and-Ayers-and-Sidley-Austin-LLP/6C510F94FE22828CAEDCF0DFCDF77701.map?big=true
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/7/25/104735.shtml
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95797455
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/18/good-news-obama-backs-off-shore-drilling/
http://obamalies.net/obamas-backers-responsible-for-manufactured-crisis.html#comment-192
@ coldwarrior:
He’s buying the world.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Well, thats just great. Between that and computer graphic animations, WTF?
davehm wrote:
Oh Poop!
davehm wrote:
yep, but you have to look real hard to see it.
THis will be the last link tonight. Lists who’s who in obama’s admin and their personal histories.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/10/ship_of_fools_obamas_intimates.html
I lied, sorry, this isn’t what I was looking for either, but frightening none the less.
http://yedda.com/questions/New_World_Order_According_Maurice_5183161118675/
G’nite!
@ teacake:
thanks for that one!
i’ll read that in the morning.
kansas wrote:
Hi Kansas!
http://www.theunionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Jonah+Goldberg%3a+%27Palin+Derangement+Syndrome%27+at+work&articleId=bd5a65dd-e8da-4000-a2fe-22f299c75346
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