There comes a time to bury the past. Today that is what I intend. Us Blogmocracy Netizens are refugees from the once great Little Green Footballs blog. The blog, which was a great in exposing Islamo-Imperialism and the antics of their Progressive collaborators, has shifted in the last year to Radical Leftists view points.
Former jazz artist and now failed blogger, Charles “Icarus” Johnson, has launched a Jihad against the Right, Evangelicals and Roman Catholics. He is clearly a bigot, but it gets worse. He is now a conspiracy theorist! Below are some of his theories about the opposition to global warming.

11 Charles Fri, Nov 27, 2009 6:07:41pm replyquote
Agreed on the litigious society part, but please note that this is part of a very coordinated effort to sabotage the Copenhagen climate summit. There’s big money behind this, and multinational corporations that are very scared of that summit.
Where have we heard this rhetoric before about Global Multinational Corporations? It’s Cold War rhetoric from the Soviets, Castro and recently Hugo Chavez. This statement clearly proves that Charles “Icarus” Johnson is a Marxist-Communist. However, his conspiracy takes an even stranger turn!
193 Charles Sat, Nov 28, 2009 8:00:23pm replyquote
The problem with leaving it up to the free market is that some of the biggest players in that market — i.e. the energy industries — are pumping many millions of dollars into an effort to convince the US public that they shouldn’t believe the AGW science. And they’re doing this to protect their bottom lines.
It’s very similar to what happened when the link between tobacco smoking and cancer became indisputable. The tobacco industry spent hundreds of millions of dollars on campaigns to trick people into disbelieving the scientific evidence, because it threatened their profits.
And in fact, many of the groups who are now the most deceptive anti-AGW agents got their start as tobacco industry shills. This connection isn’t a coincidence.
So now Big Oil is manipulating people from accepting the Global Warming Hoax. Also, he attacks free markets. This is even more evidence of his Marxist economic beliefs. But the question I have is what does the tobacco industry have to do with this? The all knowing washed up jazz artist and failed blogger gives his answer!
265 Charles Sat, Nov 28, 2009 8:24:29pm replyquote
If you’d like to know more about the big tobacco connection to global warming denial groups, I highly recommend this excellent book:
Doubt is Their Product: How Industry’s Assault on Science Threatens Your Health.
This is one of the craziest theories I have ever came across. It ranks up there along with Alex Jones and his 9/11/Inside Job theory. Charles “Icarus” Johnson is clearly a paranoid conspiracy monger. At this point whatever credibility he has is gone. Other Progressives blogs are not even claiming that the tobacco industry is behind the opposition to the Global Warming myth. He’s now on the same level as Prison Planet and other conspiracy websites.
Charles “Icarus” Johnson can no longer be taken serious. He is a Marxist and a paranoid conspiracy theorist. These statement are the final in his coffin. I’m surprised he hasn’t blamed the Vlaams Belang for the resistance to Gorebull Warming lies yet. He’s a deranged man and not even worth my time anymore.
Update: Since I’m finished with this Conspiracy crazed Marxist he is a picture that describes what I have done to LGF.





















I agree…
@ Incognito:
He’s done this is it for him. I am not wasting a post on this loon. He is beneath me.
To much crystal met.
Bet he cooks it himself.
@ taxfreekiller:
meth
@ taxfreekiller:
He’s straight up Commie at this point.
Anyone know if your allowed to tell the truth about lgf and CJ over on correspondence commitee.
@ taxfreekiller:
No you are not allowed to discuss it over there. T
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Now back to the thread.
CJ has definitely become a conspiracy theorist. When he isn’t busy with his daily witch hunt for people to smear with the faux-scandal of being “creationists,” he’s making dubious connections between AGW skeptics (he calls us “groups” as if we are members of Communist-like parties) and he’s claiming that we are in cahoots with the tobacco industry.
Whatever marbles CJ had left are long gone now.
He’s become moonbattier than the other battiest moonbats.
@ taxfreekiller:
I think we all know the truth, TFK. I think the blog admins just don’t bother with CJ.
tfk
No truths shall be spoken ’bout selrahC @ CC or Babs.
@ Eliana:
He’s an open Marxist and thinks the Tobacco Industry is behind the opposition to the Global Warming Scam. I am shocked he hasn’t blamed the Vlaams Belang or Geert Wilders.
taxfreekiller wrote:
Charles Johnson isnt smart enough to be able to cook his own meth, and any retard can cook meth…
Greens more likely thieves and liars, says shock study
Well blow me down!
@ Eliana:
Yup, expect to hear Chuckles the empty headed Clown on Coast to Coast soon…
In the article in #14:
@ doriangrey:
He’s finished, this is my last CJ post. He’s not worth my time anymore.
@ doriangrey:
Oh yeah, He’ll be guesting to discuss how Tobacco, Multinationals, Vlaams Belang and Geert Wilders are behind the opposition to Gorebull Warming.
I bid you adieu!
Go start your own blog!
Get off my website!
Bye, now!
LOL. Chucky is such a tool.
@ The Osprey:
Even worse he’s an open Marxist now.
The author of that book, David Michaels, is now the head of OSHA. Another Obama appointee.
The Osprey wrote:
ROTFLMAO…. And the very best part of this all is, that his own sarcastic advice is biting his skinny little puck ass off now…
@ Urban Infidel:
Wow, the connections are becoming clearer.
He’s got a new Amazon pimpin’ link up now. LOL.
Really, is that so, Chuckles?
Chucky has really dried out in the last two years.
Too bad, he used to be a lot more fun.
I think I’m gonna hurl.
old lgf had a great tradition
I say now would be a good time to bring it back
CJ……
GAZE
@ rain of lead:
Okay. I know this is a dumb question, but what does ‘GAZE’ mean?
@ The Osprey:
Cookbooks, calendars, what’s next? Lizard Cookie sale? warn the Girl Scouts….
@ Kitteh:
The CJ-Sharmuta porn video.
Urban Infidel wrote:
ROTFLMAO… It’s the cyber eq
Mr. Johnson needs to fine-tune his “anti-idiotarian” thought-engine. It’s smoking.
Even George Monbiot is expressing regret that he was not more skeptical. Even he is acknowledging that there is a controversy.
This is not a test of Mr. Johnson, this is a test of his followers. Are they interested in the world, in politics, in discussing current affairs, or are they interested only in keeping their place in that virtual space? And if the latter, why? Are they so addicted to each others’ company? Do they think that they are in Camelot?
Urban Infidel wrote:
ROTFLMAO… It’s the cyber equivalent of giving someone a dirty look…
Hey. Chucky will love this: Science!
@ Urban Infidel:
it was just a way to deal with trolls, what they wanted more than anything was a response…so ignoring them…made them nuts
picture little cj jumping up and down waving his arms and squeking
look at me, look at me, look at me
@ doriangrey:
Thanks for clarifying!
@ Rodan:
Steady on, old chap. We enjoy these cries of outrage.
Rodan wrote:
Ugg, brain bleach, stat!
@ rain of lead:
I’m not wasting posts on this clown anymore. He’s done, stick a fork in him.
@ Overlook:
True. He’s out-moonbatting the original moonbat.
@ Overlook:
I know that but he’s not even a credible opponent no more. It would be like me posting on Art Bell. My next target is Andrew Sullivan. I’m going to start hammering that Tranzi louse.
Gaze
@ Urban Infidel:
Someone on LGF once observed that trolls really want everyone to look at them, so if you GAZE at the troll it wlill be satisfied and go away. That was a long time ago, before registration. And when CJ was a different person, a person I respected.
Rodan wrote:
Keep hammering Chucky
Heed warnings from wise people.
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/dwightdeisenhowerfarewell.html
paragraph 16 starts with “Today”
paragraph 17 starts with “Yet”
Man Made Global Warming in a nut shell from 1961.
Rodan
Do you know whether any changes were made to the blog code today?
@ Rodan:
Yeah, Sullivan is quite a piece of work. After 9-11 he warned that there would be a media fifth column for the terrorists in the West, and he was right. He just didn’t tell us he was going to join that fifth column.
I like to go by LGF occassinally out of fascination…like slowing down when I drive past an accident on the highway.
Today Drudge posts a report from the UK that the original climate change RAW data is GONE. Lost…all we have now are the “quality controlled value added data” http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936328.ece
COuld you imagine the outrage from Charles is this data was coming from a group of scinetists who were skeptics of AGW rather then supporters? He would be yelling how these “scientists” have convenietnly lost data that doesnt support thier viewpoint. But, in this case he prefer to take the opinion that we just need to TRUST the good intentions of the “scientists” and accept their conclusions based upon raw data that no one with a differing opinion can review since it fits the view that Charles wants to promote.
Where have I heard this before? Where?
Oh yeah…”Fake but accurate?”
@ BenZacharia:
No, why?
Rodan wrote:
<blockquoteI’m not wasting posts on this clown anymore. He’s done, stick a fork in him.
Yup, he’s been picked-apart and there’s not much left.
@ taxfreekiller:
Dude. You beat me to the punch. That was my next thread, up later tonight.
All that’s left are hangers on.
@ Rodan:
Andrew Sullivan would be a fine target.
But do not forget the followers of Mr. Johnson. They need to be awakened from the brainwashing, to hear the world laughing at them. We know they read this site. We need to peel them away…
@ teacake:
At what point is the fact that the concept of “insurance” is utterly irrelevant to a state-run, single payer national health system?
There is no actuarial assessment of risk. There is only rationing based on productivity – panels.
@ Overlook:
Correction: At what point will people recognize the fact…
When you burn tobacco, there’s smoke, and when you burn oil, there’s smoke. We’re through the looking glass here, people!
@ buzzsawmonkey:
LGF is definately through the Looking Glass now.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
But which orifice is it being blown into?
@ Overlook:
as much as I would like to see the few (semi) good ones over here
after all that has happned, I just don’t see any of them making the jump, stockholm syndrome and all that.
CJ is running memes in parallel with Jeff Masters on the Weather Underground blog. Both CJ and Masters mention “Doubt Is Their Product” and both make a big show of linking this to the old tobacco lobby. Neither mention the well-heeled individual donors on the AGW side (Gore, Soros) and neither comment on the rewards offered for Leftists in the form of a “green” economy remade along state-driven lines.
Is CJ crediting Masters, or is he pretending he came up with this all on his own?
@ danrudy:
He claims the original raw data are safed at NOAA.
@ Zimriel:
Maybe he’s just trying to make money off selling books.
How original. The Ravens fans brought towels.
Chuckles trades in unsubstantiated innuendo and raw political rhetoric without a shred of proof when claiming that BIG oil or BIG tobacco are finding some deep conspiracy. The guy is a fruit-loop of the first water.
The facts are, as we have seen over the past few months, that we have the perfect political storm brewing. Neo-Marxist progressives + Corporations (after public money by socializing their financial risk and getting their corporate snouts deep into the taxation trough and Jihadists intent to bring the Umma to a mall near you.
Sitting astride this un-holy bunch of nare-do-wells is Obama. Partying on!
Chuckles has his walk on bit-part. It appears his only line in this whole sorry pantomine is …. ‘Don’t agree with me …. You’re out-of-here! ‘
Pathetic!
Iron Fist wrote:
“The Queen was in her chamber, a-combing of her hair.
There came a Queen Mary’s spirit and it stood behind her chair.
Singing “Backwards and forwards and sideways may you pass,
But I will stand behind you till you face the looking glass,
The cruel looking-glass that will never show a lass
As lovely or unlucky or as lonely as I was!”
—Rudyard Kipling, “The Looking-Glass”
heh. heh. heh.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/28/mann-to-investigated-by-penn-state-university-review/
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I love the implication behind this. On one side, we have scientists, whose only motivation is the search for knowledge. On the other side, we have evil corporations, who are only interested in protecting their profit margins.
I wonder what color the sky is on his planet?
danrudy wrote:
CJ went into complete denial that this every happened.
He later accused the Times of London of lying ( more conspiracies.)
@ Zimriel:
Wow, great find!
Maybe CJ mixed strategy with real involvment:
Industry’s Anti-Global Warming Misinformation Campaign Reminiscent of Big Tobacco’s Strategy
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I thought they went down the Rabbit Hole!
@ Overlook:
Absolutely right – the assessment of risk would be non-existent.
Premiums would be based on what the government decides to charge (rather than the costs of covering known groups according to their actual levels of risk as groups), thus the government can claim that they’re offering almost infinite coverage for almost nothing in premiums.
In reality, we would all be paying through the nose for hidden premiums to fund this coverage in every aspect of our lives and the coverage would NOT be anything remotely resembling “infinite” or even “extensive.”
They would ration it. The easiest way to ration it is to start with the people who cause the most expenses in the health care industry: those who are in the last year or so of their lives. The government intends to save money by getting such people to die sooner (before these last-year expenses can be covered).
So young healthy people who wouldn’t normally buy insurance will be paying hidden premiums at the rate of 70 and 80 year olds’ premiums but they will be expected to die before they get to the part of their lives where they would be cashing in on what they’ve spent their lives paying to receive.
We will ALL be expected to die before we get to the most expensive part of health care costs.
The government wants to control the entire medical industry so that even if we can afford to prolong our lives by paying for health care out of our own pockets, the doctors and hospitals won’t be allowed to treat us. We will have to die unless we can find a country somewhere else that will let us buy out-of-pocket health care.
In their plans for us, EVERYONE will get soaked for the costs of health care and the Dems will do everything humanly possible to keep us from getting the health care we need to keep us alive.
In their plan, it will put them in power for life and we will be their slaves who die when they tell us to die. The Dem politicians will be exempt from health care restrictions, of course. They would be able to save their own lives and stay in power as a party for a long, long time.
Iron Fist: here. ;^)
… or maybe under the bus !!!
There seems to be lot of that going around just now!
HEHEH
@ lobo91:
Red, like this man!
Got to go and graze. It’s 1430 on Monday and my tummy tells me it’s lunchtime. Later dudes!
Has anyone noticed that “We the People” have allowed a low life liar, fake, fraud, traitor to sit in our U.S. Senate, and he lies each and every day he sits there.
Is it we or he who recive punishment for this evil ongoing.
@ rain of lead:
No, I don’t think we’re going to be getting many more recruits from LGF. If I haddn’t been banned, I’d have left long before now, and I was as dedicated to LGF as any person out there. I should have left (and thought about leaving) when Charles banned Ayatollah Ghilmeini< but I didn't. I'd have left when he told Occasional Reader that we weren't allowed to post on other blogs. That was a real WTF moment. Who the hell does he think he is? In any event, the people that are there now are going to stay. They’ve already sold out themselves too much to leave.
@ Eliana:
wow! awesome post
@ rain of lead:
We used to do a lot of coal mining in PA, and Penn State is almost like our A&M here.
We have more coal here than anywhere, yet China still outproduces us.
CJ is again promoting to buy at Amazon.
Sometimes Cato is unbeatable
117 Cato the Elder
Sun, Nov 29, 2009 4:39:33pm replyquote 3downupreport
The urge to shop has been beaten out of me by people nattering at me from all sides, riddling me with guilt for buying stuff that does nothing but contribute to the heat-death of the planet.
For Festivus this year I am planning to give everyone I know handwritten carbon-offset certificates (on organic hempen paper) against their intestinal gas production for 2010. They don’t actually offset anything, but everyone will feel good whenever they cut a fart.
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Great, simply great *rofl*
@ Eliana:
Grim, depressing, and horribly likely to be reality.
Dingo ate my post…
@ Guggi:
Well, can’t say he has no wit, that’s for sure.
Assuming he’s being sarcastic, that is.
@ refugee000:
I’m not clear on the entire missing raw data issue, but i think if you parse CJ closely you’ll see he’s saying ‘destroyed’ and not ‘deleted’. E.g. CRU could in fact have deleted the raw data they used, but if they didn’t travel the globe and eliminate it at its various original sources then they haven’t ‘destroyed‘ the raw data. My take on reading various places is that the raw data is indeed gone from CRU. Anyone out there have a good handle on this?
@ Zimriel:
Interesting, thanks!
Do these climate research guys wear white lab coats?
If they do, then CJ is clearly right. Anyone wearing a white lab coat is to be trusted implicitly.
Just ask the White House.
@ Overlook:
It’s why we have to stop the Dems before they pass this health care bill or else overturn it (although this would be extremely difficult).
@ nil stooge:
I think that’s correct.
The CRU dumped its files of raw data, but anyone who wants to go back and gather the data from all the thousands of individual monitoring stations can technically do so.
Does the magical calender not sell, Charles ?
196 Charles
Sun, Nov 29, 2009 5:11:24pm replyquote 1downupreport
If any LGF readers would like to go to the Lulu page and counteract those obnoxious, spiteful reviews and downratings with positive reviews, I’d appreciate it.
[Link: http://www.lulu.com...
A flatulence license. What a concept. Maybe you can make one with various sized fart coupons around the edge that you then punch, so if you’re in a social situation, you just let loose, and then punch your card. Nobody can object then.
Wish I had Al Gore and Mr. Hockey stick as fence riders out on grand dads New Mexico place “crow flats” 20 miles north of the Texas line near Dell City Texas, they could get a “feel” for the true nature of the current cooling. 6″ to 9″ of snow Monday and Tuesday.
All the old cows will move to the south bunch up and break down the sorry ass fences and it will take a week of cold ass hard work to get them back and fed. The snow blows around and you can not see 10′ at times.
Come on Al, face facts for once in your sorry life.
@ Guggi:
If any LGF readers would like to go to the Lulu page and counteract those obnoxious, spiteful reviews and downratings with positive reviews, I’d appreciate it.
And that they did.
@ lobo91:
It took a couple of looks at the title of the LGF post before I tumbled to the ‘destroyed’ (vs. ‘deleted’) wording/distinction. Reading LGF these days must be a lot like reading Pravda.
@ Iron Fist:
Dingo released it!
They are setting it up for the no good liars of the Goverments involved to put out new “data”, which suprise will show even more warming.
They lie, all of them.
@ nil stooge:
Oh oh. I’ve been found out. We all know CJ’s logic, …I am a smoker and therefore a contributor to the tobacco industry. I am a non-believer in global warming therefore I am the root of the conspiracy! I’m quietly funneling my smoking dollars to tobacco so they can destroy the planet by refuting global warming baloney! I’m to blame! It’s me! I’m soooooo powerful!
Don’t let CJ know though…he might start sleeping again and gain back some of the sanity he’s lost!
I can’t see any reviews….but:
208 Charles
Sun, Nov 29, 2009 5:15:34pm replyquote 2downupreport
re: #206 MandyManners
Good grief. Looks like something Savage and his crew would do.
It probably is.
@ Rodan:
Thanks!
@ Urban Infidel:
I see ten ratings but no reviews.
@ Guggi:
Scroll down. There’s a bunch.
Sometimes I think that the ultimate goal of the progressives is to tire us out with this perpetual djinned up nonsense.
222 Alouette
Sun, Nov 29, 2009 5:25:13pm replyquote 2downupreport
re: #200 Charles
Gave it 5 stars and reported the stupid, hateful comments.
223 Charles
Sun, Nov 29, 2009 5:25:45pm replyquote 1downupreport
re: #222 Alouette
Gave it 5 stars and reported the stupid, hateful comments.
Thank you!
James Hansen of nasa speaks
Is there any real chance of averting the climate crisis?
jeez, this mf’er really wants to destroy the world in order to save it
@ Urban Infidel:
No, I did this before but there is nothing. Empty. no review, no comment.
>>…not even worth my time anymore
so stop already… this blog has a decent chance of being something worthwhile, if you can manage to jettison the past…
@ Guggi:
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Nov. 29, 2009 By jonathan kundra
Very nice work: a definite ‘painterly’ quality which underscores one of the neglected aspects of what photography is (or can be) all about.
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Nov. 29, 2009 By chris Foley
Wonderful Calendar full of some beautiful photography.
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Nov. 29, 2009 By bagua the Critic
The photographs are refreshingly candid views of the natural world that surrounds us, yet each from a perspective that builds a dream world out of our otherwise urban landscape.
Each month the viewers sees the world from a new perspective, reminding them of the beauty that can be found all around them .
An excellent Holiday Gift for all who appreciate beauty and nature.
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Nov. 29, 2009 By Vicious Babushka
Gorgeous beach and nature pictures, and a very worthwhile blog. The ridiculous negative reviews are by ankle-biting, small-minded, silly jealous people with too much time on their hands
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Nov. 29, 2009 By Daniel Ballard
Good photography, and done by a fine man. LGF rocks!
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Nov. 29, 2009 By Dallas Rivers
The photographs of Charles Johnson are rather like the mass produced paintings you find on the walls of a Motel 6, banal beyond words. That anyone would pay actual money for this vacuous drivel boggles the mind. For more, go here… http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/bad_americans/the_eternal_banality_of_t.php
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Nov. 23, 2009 By Thomas Benson
Just like Ansel Adams just took a bunch of pictures while he was hiking, Charles Johnson just uses these as filler on his blog.
(that was sarcasm, in case Ignatz doesn’t get it).
This calender is pretty straightforwards: If you like the pictures, buy it. If you don’t, don’t. The previous use of the pictures on a blog seems kinda irrelevant to whether you actually like them or not.
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Nov. 23, 2009 By Ignatz Kerfuffle
Please do yourself a favor, and don’t waste your money on this calendar. It’s composed of photos that have been used more or less as “filler” on the author’s blog, and which really have no place being sold for money as they are nothing more than snapshots.
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To be honest, 3/4 of that calendar isn’t bad. But the reviews are rather amusingly over-the-top, and LGF is a cause I’ve no desire to raise funds for, to put it lightly.
@ Urban Infidel:
Thanxs
nil stooge wrote:
That’s the kind of word games he plays and twisted rationale he uses when someone nails him on something.
@ Fried Spam:
Unfortunately, Little Green Footballs, along with every other leftist blog, will be our concern and the concern of freedom loving Americans everywhere. LGF moreso, in that we are able to watch the transformation to the way the leftists work. LGF holds no resemblance to it’s former self. The process of change is instructive to all how the leftists promote, lie, project and think.
The blogosphere’s most famous racist vandalizer is keeping an eye on us. How quaint: Killgore Trout Sun, Nov 29, 2009 5:48:17pm replyquote
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I just went and checked in on the stalkers. Still talking about LGF on every thread. Some of them have been banned for years and it’s all they can talk about. Even Gordon eventually got over it after about 2 years and then moved on with his life.
@ Guggi:
Damn if CJ can hack a calendar with his picture, maybe I could hack on with mine.
Pic, Pic, Pic, Pic
Except something tells me, I highly doubt it.
Wait up>>>>>
Not Al Gore as a ranch hand, no way.
The pay is $1,000.00 per month, a two man bunk house free and all you can eat.
That fat ass sob would break the budget real bad……
Is LGF promoting global warming and “science” generally because Johnson really believes that science is the last bastion of disinterested, abstract, uncorrupted reason in Western society—just as journalism, in some quarters, still pretends it is—or because he knows that it isn’t, just as journalism is not?
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I would guess, based on CJ’s narcissistic behavior, that he’s simply chosen the side of the argument that garners him the attention that he craves.
@ Zimriel:
My thoughts exactly!
@ song_and_dance_man:
S&DM, I’ve gone over there and don’t see where to vote. Everywhere I click I get told nominations are closed, I don’t see a place to start voting.
@ rain of lead:
I love this part:
I must have missed the clause in the UN Charter that gives some unelected body the power to give orders to sovereign nations with regard to their own natural resources.
It’s also funny that Hansen neglected to mention just how Saudi Arabia, and the rest of the oil-exporting nations, are supposed to survive economically after they are barred from selling their oil (not that I particularly care about the oil ticks, mind you, I just want to hear his solution).
@ Bumr50:
I believe, correctly or not, that principles underlie behavior. Understand that “opportunism” can also be a principle.
I am curious as to whether in this case the behavior is due to principle based on belief or based on knowledge of falsehood; the first indicates naivete and simplemindedness, the latter indicates, at best, a cynical whoring of the self, and at worst a malicious corruption.
The Osprey wrote:
you beat me to it … drat …
was going to post that data …
also just went over there to look at the
train wreck …
he is bashing Rush ..
and is almost beside himself
posting stuff on global warming …
or it is now climate change …
I can’t keep up .. heh
@ lobo91:
the high priest of gorebull warming has spoken
pay no attention to that blogger behing the server
@ buzzsawmonkey:
He doesn’t know the difference.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
In his case I fear the latter. He’s had too much access to too many rational people that there’s no way that he can spew the nonsense that he does without knowing, at least at some point, that it’s all malarkey.
There’s a chance that he’s convinced some level of himself otherwise, at least to where he’s comfortable enough to carry on about it.
@ lobo91:
What Hanson’s saying, and he’s been saying this for a while, is that since we can’t control the use of petroleum and gas overseas, we have to compensate by ceasing to use the one fossil fuel that we do have in abundance in the US: coal.
Real smart, Jimmy.
@ Bumr50:
If you “listen” carefully as you read, there’s a sense of desperation in the writing. A sense of loss of control. I don’t think he’s knowingly doing anything; I think he’s reacting to a world that used to kiss his toes, and doesn’t any more.
Charles Sun, Nov 29, 2009 6:17:17pm replyquote
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I don’t consider Rush a “conservative.” His program used to be entertaining back in the day, but he completely trashed his own career after the Oxycontin caper.
Actually, he didn’t. He’s making more money now fleecing the right wing than he ever has. : Will some one buy this man a clue? Limbaughs show is free to listen to. If he is fleecing anyone, its his advertisers, and I suspect they are getting a decent/good/ great return on their advertising investment.
Now, here’s a question: are bicyclists particularly insane or antisocial? In New York, Mad Mike Bloomberg has been railing against “traffic congestion,” and his solution to said “congestion” is to narrow the streets by creating a vast mileage of bike lanes dedicated to cyclists and cyclists alone, and forbidden to the drivers of automobiles. Never mind that it is the drivers of automobiles who overwhelmingly pay for the upkeep of the roads with licensing fees and tickets; large sections of these roadways for which they pay have been given over to the sprinkling of cyclists who intermittently infest the streets.
Now, the cyclists are a viciously antisocial lot. They do not observe basic traffic laws; they ride against the traffic, ignore one-way street signs, stoplights, etc.; they do not use lights or reflectors; some of their bikes are track bikes without brakes; and they do not remain in the lanes provided for them. Nor, of course, do they pay licensing fees for the operation of their bicycles, do they have to have insurance, or do they receive tickets for flouting the law.
Is there something about being an avid cyclist that makes one feel particularly arrogant, morally elevated above one’s fellow man, and freed from abiding by the rules of civilized behavior?
@ Bumr50:
There’s something seriously wrong with anyone who doesn’t have a vested interest in the AGW scam who desperately wants it to be true.
I can understand Hansen and company wanting people to believe it, because they’ve built their careers on it. People like Al Gore stand to make billions if the carbon trading scheme goes into effect. The anti-American socialists want it to be true so they can use it as a club to destroy the west.
All those groups have good reasons to want AGW to be real (or for people to believe it is, anyway).
For the other 99.9% of humans living in the industrialized world, the only sane reaction to the revelation that the whole thing may be a scam is a combination of anger at those behind it and relief that they won’t be forced to live in a mud hut and eat berries as a result of draconian energy restrictions.
WWII vets, kin up in arms over display of Soviet dictator Stalin’s bust at National D-Day Memorial
OT : Unreal….
Maurice Clemmons, the 37-year-old Tacoma man being sought for questioning in the killing of four Lakewood police officers this morning, has a long criminal record punctuated by violence, erratic behavior and concerns about his mental health.
Nine years ago, then-Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee granted clemency to Clemmons, commuting his lengthy prison sentence over the protests of prosecutors.
“This is the day I’ve been dreading for a long time,” Larry Jegley, prosecuting attorney for Arkansas’ Pulaski County said Sunday night when informed that Clemmons was being sought in connection to the killings.
Clemmons’ criminal history includes at least five felony convictions in Arkansas and at least eight felony charges in Washington. The record also stands out for the number of times he has been released from custody despite questions about the danger he posed.
Clemmons had been in jail in Pierce County for the past several months on a pending charge of second-degree rape of a child.
He was released from custody just six days ago, even though he was wanted on a fugitive warrant out of Arkansas and was staring at eight felony charges in all out of Washington state.
lobo91 wrote:
Do an ask.com or bing.com (boycotting google) search for “Stanley Milgram”. Your comment is too close to truth to be funny.
/The experiment must continue
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010385617_webmansought29.html
thata the link via ace
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I agree, cyclists seem to be an incredibly dumb lot, my truck outweighs them by tons yet that doesn’t stop them from riding in the middle of the street or cutting in front of me.
Now on a good note, I did recently witness a cyclist who ran a red light get a traffic ticket.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I think your answer is here.
@ Rubber Soul:
I don’t want to hear anyone telling me how great Huckabee is. That asshat may have cost four cops their lives.
@ snork:
Interesting indeed. Kind of a “cycle of violence,” if you know what I mean. With fascist headwinds.
@ snork:
Nothing good comes out of Arkansas government. Shady, shady.
@ snork:
I wouldn’t tell you that. But WTF is up with this?
How is a criminal like that able to be free?
He clearly is a career criminal to which I am sure every state has some new (3 strikes) or older law (habitual criminal) that would keep this POS in jail, but only if some of these “educated” shit heads in charge choose to enforce what the law already clearly states.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
BUZZSAWMONKEY! You are singing my song!
The NYC bike lanes are the worst of Bloomberg’s ‘playpenning’ of NY.
Whippet wrote:
I agree. I used to wonder about focusing on LGF, but after all it’s something nearly all of us here have in common. And, it’s the ideological enemy. And, as you indicate, it’s an interesting psychological petri dish, as it were.
@ Grouchy when NoMobeer:
I’m curious as to whether or not the judge in his current case was aware of his past record when he set his bail at $150,000.
That seems awfully low for someone with such an extensive record.
@ Grouchy when NoMobeer:
They DO NOT slow down, nor do they stay with the flow of traffic. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve come close to being struck by these arrogant bastards.
@ lobo91:
And a pending charge of “child rape”.
Man the 150k bond is insane.
@ Grouchy when NoMobeer:
Criminals have become the new victims of society just as minorities have. It seems the worse the criminal the lesser the sentence. But a first-time offender or the white-collar criminal is public scum.
The Fort Hood terrorist is a perfect example. The left needs to explain why the criminal felt the way he did(as if we didn’t already know the whys in his case) in order to commit the crime instead of focusing on the crime itself.
It’s all political correct bull.
@ MrPaulRevere:
Every time CJ excoriates some blog somewhere for some over-the-top comment the obvious rejoinder is to ask how he’s sure it’s not just KT doing it, not that anyone dare ask it.
AZfederalist wrote:
Stanley Milgram did an experiment in the 1960’s that showed that the average human would engage in inhuman behavior towards innocent individuals if they believed that a sufficient authority figure had ordered them to. This observation is at the root of the Ends justify them means ideology.
@ Grouchy when NoMobeer:
Not that I agree with the decision, but if that was the only thing the judge was aware of, I could see a not-so-tough-on-crime judge setting that kind of bail.
But not if he knew about everything else.
@ Urban Infidel:
I know, here in So Cal we get groups of 20+ taking up the whole street. It fries me, so I make it look like a game of chicken with them versus my 2.5 ton pickup with a pissed off redneck asshole behind the wheel.
They tend to clear out of way rather quickly, ‘cause you know, those tight spandex bike shorts tend to crush your manhood.
hahahaha
don’t tell you know who….heheheh
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this part made me feel good though
@ Grouchy when NoMobeer:
ROTFLMAO… If they are riding in that shit, they aint got no manhood to crush…
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I gotta believe CJ is an “ends justifies the means” kind of guy. He’ll back abstract, disinterested science as long as it tracks with his politics. And mix in (not a cheap shot) a large dollop of dumbth. (He’s smart at what he’s smart at, but that isn’t a lot of the stuff he writes/comments on.)
@ Grouchy when NoMobeer:
And I should add, seeing me in my truck in my Keffiyeh probably makes them lefty bike riders wee weed themselves.
Back when I worked for the NM Legislature, a guy was convicted in Santa Fe of his 48th DUI. The question of how that could happen came up during a committee hearing, given that, according to state law at the time, a third offense was a felony that carried mandatory prison time.
The answer was that when a case goes to trial, they can only consider what is presented in evidence by the prosecutor. In order to prosecute the guy as a repeat offender, the prosecutor had to actually enter the records of his previous convictions into evidence.
Apparently, none of the prosecutors ever bothered to do this, so the guy was prosecuted on 48 different occasions as a first offense.
I have to wonder if something similar was involved with this guy in Washington, particularly since his previous offenses were in another state.
@ nil stooge:
You pimping my blog article? The greatest evil ever invented.
@ Grouchy when NoMobeer:
I’m not sure why your post reminded me of this, but Big Hollywood says that Faceman and Murdock have cameos in the upcoming A-Team movie.
Is there a belief that there is no money found on the pro AGW campaign? Can we be a little more naive? Al Gore, alternative energy companies, third world governments are all putting money into destroying our economy.
oh shit this is too funny not to post a bit
go give this guy some bloghits and read the whole thing
A friendly chat with the global warming evangelist who lives in my head
Hello, hyperventilating zealot.
Greetings, denialist scum.
Now that we’ve dispensed with the formalities, please allow me to point and laugh at you. Ahem. Ha ha ha! Point point point!
Shut up.
That’s what you’d like me to do. That’s what you’d like all of us to do. Shut our mouths and open our wallets. Did you really think it was going to be so easy?
This doesn’t prove anything.
What doesn’t?
You know.
We both do. I just want to hear you say it.
This Clim… This Climateguh. Guh.
That’s it, almost there.
This Climategate garbage doesn’t mean anything! You science-denying neocon fascist racist warmongering planet-raping… [Goes on like this for a bit]
My goodness. Feel better?
No.
Well, I do. OMG, can you believe Obama changed his mind about going to Copenhagen after all this stuff came out? It’s like sprinting to board your ship at the last minute, and it’s the Titanic.
@ gilescorey:
I’ve been following this issue off and on for more than a decade.
Even back in the late ’90s, you absolutely could not get any government grant money to conduct research on global warming if you were considered a “sceptic.”
People trying to conduct research on the other side have no choice but to get funding from industry or other private sources, because that’s all there is.
I’m no lover of Huckabee….but now this is on the front page of LGF. Charles has spoken…..and the hatred for Christians is apprarant….
You have to wonder why Huckabee would grant clemency to someone like this.
One possibility: Huckabee is a fanatical fundamentalist. Was it because Clemmons pretended to “get religion” in order for his sentence to be reduced?”
I think Huckabee could be finished because of this…but not because of his religiion….CJ is an athiest jerk…and I believe it drives everthing that he believes (including any scientific theories) and thinks…
And we’ve all heard about Huckabee commuting his sentence which I sure will be in bold letters in every newspaper or on every news show…but who are the others who let him go? I bet we never know….
@ Whippet:
Yup because he was just recently released 2 weeks ago.
@ Bumr50:
I pity the fool who does that.
Channeling MR. “T”
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Seems to be the case. You are correct, here we have miles of bicycle lanes and a state law that states motorists must provide a bicycle with 5 feet clearance. What do the avid cyclists do? Ride on the @#$%’n white line next to the traffic! My attitude is that their 5 feet includes 3 feet inside their alotted bike lane.
How the stories will be written for posterity:’
Dukakis lets a murderer go = only noted as evil plot of GOP to scare racist GOP voters with black man
Huckabee lets a murderer go = shows that the GOP is equally soft on crime, Huck’s religion somehow to blame also, and while we’re at it, let’s talk about how racist the Willie Horton ad was again.
Eliana wrote:
That’s the entire point of much of liberalism- putting everyone into ‘groups’ (‘African American’ ‘gay’ etc) rather than seeing people as individuals.
OK, so there seems to be an unusual amount of traffic tonight, not less than average posting, anyone wish to venture a guess whats up?
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Very perceptive, grasshopper. Mark Steyn has weighed in on this. Its from 2003 but still relevant: The Bike-Path Left http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110004441
Poor charles. his 15-minutes of fame ended 30 minutes ago, and he hasn’t realized it. I used to be at LGF several times a day. Now, I rarely go there more than once a month. And when I do, it is with the same attitude as I visit dailyKos or whatever.
@ doriangrey:
folks done with holiday stuff and getting ready to go back to work tomorrow?
rain of lead wrote:
I dont know, but the site appears to be timing out quite a bit, possible dDOS???
@ rain of lead:
For what it is worth, another website I frequent is running at about 150% normal nighttime capacity tonight. Just a big night for everyone being home and online I think, and agree, probably an artifact of the Thanksgiving holiday.
So CJ is busy smearing Huckabee over a report about a “person of interest” in the murders of four police officers and who (the “person of interest”) was released on bail four days ago in the State of Washington after having been charged with the assault of a police officer and child rape?
I don’t suppose Charles is mentioning that Huckabee commuted this man’s sentence in Arkansas because he was 17 years old at the time of his sentencing.
We don’t have all the information about these murders yet, but it doesn’t stop Charles from going off half-cocked in an attack on a Republican AND on religion (with the accusation that Huckabee MAY have released the “person of interest” 9 years ago because he MAY have said he was religious).
This is what Charles has become:
The smear comes first – the truth has no place on his blog at all.
In the first article I found it was in paragraph 4. No other mention of his more recent criminal past….
“In a news release, the sheriff’s office said Clemmons has an extensive violent criminal history from Arkansas, including aggravated robbery and theft. Clemmons also recently was arrested and charged in Pierce County in Washington state for third-degree assault on a police officer, and second-degree rape of a child.
“In 1989, Clemmons, then 17, was convicted in Little Rock for aggravated robbery. He was paroled in 2000 after then-Gov. Mike Huckabee commuted Clemmons’ 95-year prison sentence. Huckabee, who was criticized during his run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008 for the number of clemencies and commutations he granted, cited Clemmons’ age at the time of the sentence.
After his release from prison, Clemmons violated his parole and was returned to prison in July 2001. He was released March 18, 2004″
@ buzzsawmonkey:
“Cyclist” – a German insult: bowing to those above, kicking those below in order to get along. Remember Arturo Ui – spitting hatred for Jews and Bicyclists?
“Critical Mass” – the activist cyclists swarming San Fransisco will be recruited for the Moral Police up in San Fransisco.
Whippet wrote:
That’s the kicker. Rape of a child and he was out walking around?
Excuse me….no other “details” of his more recent criminal past…
Ok, here’s the big question:
How is CJ going to manage to call Huckabee a “raaaacist” for releasing a black prisoner with clemency because he was 17 years old at the time of his sentencing?
There’s got to be a way, in CJ’s head.
This will keep him up nights until he figures it out.
And the hits just keep on comming
Douglas Fisher
Comment Columnists / Lorrie Goldstein
‘Botch after botch after botch’
Leaked ‘climategate’ documents show huge flaws in the backbone of climate change science
“But what are all those monthly files? DON’T KNOW, UNDOCUMENTED. Wherever I look, there are data files, no info about what they are other than their names. And that’s useless …” (Page 17)
- “It’s botch after botch after botch.” (18)
- “The biggest immediate problem was the loss of an hour’s edits to the program, when the network died … no explanation from anyone, I hope it’s not a return to last year’s troubles … This surely is the worst project I’ve ever attempted. Eeeek.” (31)
- “Oh, GOD, if I could start this project again and actually argue the case for junking the inherited program suite.” (37)
- “… this should all have been rewritten from scratch a year ago!” (45)
- “Am I the first person to attempt to get the CRU databases in working order?!!” (47)
- “As far as I can see, this renders the (weather) station counts totally meaningless.” (57)
- “COBAR AIRPORT AWS (data from an Australian weather station) cannot start in 1962, it didn’t open until 1993!” (71)
- “What the hell is supposed to happen here? Oh yeah — there is no ‘supposed,’ I can make it up. So I have : – )” (98)
- “You can’t imagine what this has cost me — to actually allow the operator to assign false WMO (World Meteorological Organization) codes!! But what else is there in such situations? Especially when dealing with a ‘Master’ database of dubious provenance …” (98)
- “So with a somewhat cynical shrug, I added the nuclear option — to match every WMO possible, and turn the rest into new stations … In other words what CRU usually do. It will allow bad databases to pass unnoticed, and good databases to become bad …” (98-9)
wow, just when you think the body has no more meat left…..
These presumably precise data are the backbone of climate science.
As you read the programmer’s comments below, remember, this is only a fraction of what he says
By LORRIE GOLDSTEIN
I was never real impressed with Huckabee; long story short, I look sideways at any politician coming out of Arkasas. He was not a serious contender so I never paid him much attention until he colluded with the McCain campaign and stayed in the race to confuse primary voters when it was obvious he had no chance of winning in order to deny Mitt Romney (who could have given Obama a real run for his $$) the nomination. I dislike this kind of chicanery intensely and ergo, Huckabee for participating in it. His political career is over now. Good.
@ MrPaulRevere:
I agree with you completely, however, I feel his career should be over for the reasons you state, not because he’s a Christian…which is where this is going.
@ rain of lead:
Repost this on the next thread. Very interesting.
snork wrote:
Limbaughs phony comical commercials have Nancy Pelosi voice talking about Democratic methods of combating global warming. My favorite has always been the help fight global warming with “personal methane reclaimation”
nil stooge wrote:
I was finally able to put a finger on what bothers me most reading LGF nowadays-it is the sheer level of contempt shown for anything conservative, the guilt-by-association brush used to smear anyone who no longer buys leftist talking points. The twisting of information to support talking points. Reading it produces the same feelings as having a political discussion with a rabid liberal who ignores any information that contradicts him/ her and then personally attacks you for having a different point of view.
The old LGF was not like that. I keep wondering if:
1) Charles sold the blog and someone else is actually “Charles” now.
2) Charles fell and hit his head during a ride.
3) Charles had a conservative significant other who broke his heart.
4) Charles has a moonbat significant other currently.
@ rain of lead:
This one is my choice for a good summary of the entire AGW scam:
@ livefreeor die:
I think the problem is that CJ is his own significant other.
Whippet wrote:
Morel likely his own insignificant other…
@ livefreeor die:
Those are many of the things I find disgusting about LGF. The faux concern they trot out as they smear people on the right is another.
I think CJ hopes to somehow plug into the cash flowing out of Democrat DC by changing LGF into a left-wing megaphone / spin-machine / think-tank. And the new LGF probably reflects what the old hippy has believed in all along.
Whippet wrote:
Respectfully Whippet, deceiving voters and playing dishonest games is not Christian behavior, IMO. “Thou shalt not bear false witness”
@ doriangrey:
You mean Sharm or Irish Rose ain’t servicing him?
Macker wrote:
Heh heh heh, would you let either of them service you? Besides Charles is obviously a narcissist and allowing either of them services him probably constitutes cheating on himself in his opinion.
@ doriangrey:
MY WIFE would kick their asses!
@ MrPaulRevere:
2004, actually—but, as you say, an excellent article.
Coming late to this thread (just registered!!!)
The one thing that gets me in this LGF v/s Climategate is that he only looks at two things: #1) – the large picture (the package was leaked) and #2) – the emails themselves.
He doesn’t look at the programming code in the package.
From reading LGF (not so much any more), I remember him posting about his mad personal programming skills. Why hasn’t he looked at the code. I am a hardware guy, not a coder but even I can see just how horrible the code is…
@ rain of lead:
WOW! That’s a tad incriminating!
@ DaveH:
Maybe because his mad coding skills are largely imaginary.
@ lobo91:
I guess it depends on your perspective. I view the rape of a child as more serious than the murders. If he’s guilty of that they should run him through a woodchipper feet first.
http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/10399.html
The real shocking revelation in the Climategate incident isn’t the emails that show influential scientists possibly engaging in the disruption of the scientific process and possibly even committing legal fraud. Those emails might be explained away.
No, the real shocking revelation lies in the computer code and data that were dumped along with the emails. Arguably, these are the most important computer programs in the world. These programs generate the data that is used to create the climate models which purport to show an inevitable catastrophic warming caused by human activity. It is on the basis of these programs that we are supposed to massively reengineer the entire planetary economy and technology base.
The dumped files revealed that those critical programs are complete and utter train wrecks.
It’s hard to explain to non-programmers just how bad the code is but…. read the rest….
…Yes, it’s that bad.
Programmers all over the world have begun wading through the code and they have been stunned by how bad it is. It’s quite clearly amateurish and nothing but an accumulation of seat-of-the-pants hacks and patches.
How did this happen?…
Based on the behaviors that I’ve observed in the past year or so, I am pretty sure that selrahC will attempt to turn Rodan’s mock hunting tag into a death threat.
AZfederalist wrote:
Same here. I go in, look around, click this, click that, give up and go home.
Whiskey Tango . . .
@ least:
I’m wondering right now if Charlie has posted something about that already.
Methinks Chuckles is ready for the loony-hatch. What a dumbass! To think, I once respected this drooling retard…Oh well, live and learn. He is like a damn jihadist with his global warming nonsense: anyone who questions it is an infidel and should be beheaded.
doriangrey wrote:
Chuckles yells his own name during sex… maybe thats fitting since he is always alone.
selrahC has a post up “explaining” his “defection” from the right. To anyone who has been following his disastrous antics this past year, it is laughable – he claims, for example, that the right is anti-woman, when in fact he gleefully participates in Palin bashing… it would seem anti-woman in his mind means Pro-life. To pretend, after the events of the last election, the attempted destruction and demonization of both HIllary and Sarah, that the left is “pro-woman” is absurd.
His other reasons are just as bizarre – and even if you could take them seriously on their face, his credibility is completely shot. HIs fascistic bannings, the complete elimination of all discussion and debate, and the creation of his own echo chamber are well documented.
The threads now appear to be controlled by the vicious crazed ice-weasel. It’d be sad if it wasn’t so funny.
Salon carries his water: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2009/12/01/lgf
Yid with Lid tells it like it is: http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2009/12/sad-day-in-blog-world-little-green.html
…It wasn’t until I was banned that I learned what a Joke in the net community Charles had become. I had begun to notices much larger sites than mine “de-link” LGF because Johnson had trumped up some silly excuse to ban them, top caliber sites such as Ace of Spades and the Other McCain.
On his site Charles gives his ten reasons for switching sides, but rather than give true political reasons he uses it as an opportunity to sound like a bitter old fool, smearing some really fine people such as RS McCain, Michelle Malkin, Rush Limbaugh, Pamela Geller, Glenn Beck, etc. He even trashes the tea party movement as hatefu,l and accuses Hot Air of being a site that Spews hate. Hot Air is arguably the most level headed political site on either side of the aisle….