Iran warns Switzerland over minaret ban
Iran warned Switzerland on Saturday of “consequences” over a referendum banning the building of new mosque minarets and urged Bern not to enforce the ban, the official IRNA news agency reported.
The vote went “against the prestige of a country which claims to be an advocate of democracy and human rights,” Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki told Swiss counterpart Micheline Calmy-Rey in a telephone call, quoted by IRNA.
[...]IRNA said Switzerland’s ambassador in Tehran was summoned on Saturday before the foreign ministry, which protested against the minaret ban which was backed by more than 57% of voters who cast their ballot on November 29.
Calmy-Rey said the referendum was carried out against the will of the Swiss government, which would “use all its means to support Muslims rights,” the IRNA report added.
The referendum on a constitutional ban on minarets was proposed by a rightwing Swiss party and had not been expected to succeed.
Obama approval rating below 50 percent
ON A CNN POLL
Forty-eight percent of Americans questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. national survey released Friday said they approve of the job Obama is doing as president — a drop of 7 percentage points from a survey last month.
Obama Ignores ‘Climate-Gate’ in Revising Copenhagen Plans
The scandal has prompted calls for Obama from global warming skeptics to skip this month’s climate summit in Copenhagen — instead, the White House is doubling down on its commitment.
Russia turns to Israel for help in investigation into train bombing
And in case you missed it:
The Illegal-Settlements Myth – (link from Wrath-of-God)
NYT’s op-ed – The 9/11 of 1859 – (hattip to snork)
Few if any Americans today would question the justness of John Brown’s cause: the abolition of human bondage. But as the nation prepares to try Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, who calls himself the architect of the 9/11 attacks, it may be worth pondering the parallels between John Brown’s raid in 1859 and Al Qaeda’s assault in 2001.
Yes, he said that. And it seems Bernadine Dohrn thinks she’s the 60′s equivilent:
Pro-violence abolitionist John Brown studied in NY
LAKE PLACID, N.Y. — John Brown, the 19th-century abolitionist who advocated armed violence, is drawing a diverse crowd this week to study how his fight against slavery continues to play in America.
[...]Organizers say the symposium, on Friday and Saturday, will examine the impact of Brown’s fight against slavery on America then and how it reverberates today. Speakers include Bernardine Dohrn, one of the best-known leaders of the 1960s radical group the Weather Underground; Maria Suarez, a Mexican immigrant who was virtually enslaved by a Southern California man after being lured to work for him in 1976; Russell Banks, author of the fictional Brown biography “Cloudsplitter”; and Alice Keesey Mecoy, a Brown descendant.
[...]“We’re trying to get people to take a look at the use of violence in our country — why American culture uses violence to achieve an end,” Wikoff said.
Dohrn would be an expert at that.
► Hot LinksTags: Bernadine Dohrn, Copenhagen, Iran, Israel, John Brown, KSM, obama, Russia, Switzerland
Cuz Al-Queda is only interesting in building day-care centers. My senator even said so!
Linky.
Oh, and m, incoming.
Ok, since nobody wants to talk about that, McIntyre has an interesting post here about the new phenomenon of “uber-viral” news. If the numbers mean anything, despite the absolute embargo imposed by the American MSM on the CRUtape letters™ a.k.a. Climategate, there are more hits than with the Tiger woods story.
The MSM oligopoly is lost. Long live the profit Al-Gore’s innertubes.
Bring it.
If they want to go lululululululul at the top of their lungs climbing up Alps after an enemy trained to shoot them between the eyes, be my guest.
@ snork:
Bail out time!
@ waldensianspirit:
I like how they can say – “you’re not being democratic by letting the people decide”! lol Oh, and now a minaret is a friggen human right.
So if radical Muzzies are excused for their actions, and if groups like Weather Underground & the voter intimidation types are given a nod & a wink and if John Brown is being given a ’2nd look’ for his righteous opposition to slavery, then logically (which I know kills the whole argument) anyone who held ANY kind of belief would be justified in backing it with murder, rather than going through the legal process.
Of course, well all know that only those on the LEFT are justified in committing violence. Conservatives are bent on forcing their hateful, mean-spirited views on everyone else.
John Brown’s cause was a good one, in contrast to Al Qaeda’s, but he was still a whacked out killer and terrorist.
They say,“We’re trying to get people to take a look at the use of violence in our country — why American culture uses violence to achieve an end.” But John Brown was never typical of Americans, any more that Ayers and Dohrn are typical, and his story has nothing to tell us about the mainstream of American history. It’s not “American culture” that uses terrorism. It’s isolated, self-righteous, unbalanced fanatics like the Weathermen.
The radical moonbats of New England, believing that any means justified the end, made John Brown into a saint and martyr. But even most opponents of slavery, not to mention most Americans in general, considered him a wretched criminal whose fate was more than deserved.
@ m:
And lets not forget Iran is a bastion of religious tolerance and freedom.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/3179465/Hanged-for-being-a-Christian-in-Iran.html
@ m:
Oh yeah. The most intolerant people on the planet squeal like the pigs at the slightest whiff of intolerance of them. Islam didn’t invent hypocrisy, but they are well on the road to perfecting it.
@ m:
Exactly. The Swiss didn’t put an end to construction of all mosques, just the minarets on them. I’d bet that it’s a height restriction which would also apply to newly constructed churches or temples as well.
I read somewhere (here?) that the Jews adapted to similar regulations regarding the overall height of buildings by digging a deeper foundation to create the illusion of height when you’re inside the building.
@ snork:
NBC covered it last night. In typical fashion they did it in such a way as to make it seem non-important. They only interviewed people who thought it was a non-story.
Mornin’ all!
Thanks for fixing me whoever. I thought perhaps my alternate personality was sleepwalking last night and was posting about how right Charles Johnson is.
/
@ vagabond trader:
And we all know that Christians want to do the same thing here in the US.
//
Yeah, John Brown was no KSM but in the interest of pimping my books I’ll author an editorial opinion with specious parallels between the two.//
bad craziness on the left
I sure hope that the Swiss poeple don’t let themselves be bullied on this issue by their ruling elites or by the EU thought police.
@ mfhorn:
Ooops those democracy loving Iranians again.
http://www.iranpresswatch.org/post/547
@ waldensianspirit:
How else can we ensure “fair” media coverage?
If we don’t bail them out, partisan politics might rule the day!
Horrors!
/
MORE NO POSTS!! HELP HELP HELP
@ vagabond trader:
Our left wants to love democracy like they do.
The swiss have it right.
Islam in many ways is like HIV. The infection is insidious. Once it’s in, it multiplies and eventually takes over
england is infected. that country is dead.
france is fighting it. probably too late too but there is hope with the slave bag ban.
Go Swiss!
@ m:
As Rodan says they are allied with the progressive tranzies.
Hi m!
Ze Swees used to be strong fighters, no? Where ez ze worlds response to ze constant sthreats coming from Iran? Pepe does not believe it should be ze accepting silince. Would ze Swees be ze evil ones for sending a few well aimed cruise missles in response?
No one is allowed to answer in kind to islamists shaking feests at ze ceevilized world, even knowing zem to be murderers, terroriests and worse? How deed we come to such?
@ Frenchie:
Would ze Swees be ze evil ones for sending a few well aimed cruise missles in response?
@ vagabond trader:
I understand stinky cheese is a great catalyst for enriching uranium.
@ vagabond trader:
Hey VT! He’s got a vay vith vords, no?
(oh no, frenchie you’re rubbing off!)
@ waldensianspirit:
Only in its halal form.
I suggest that humans have a right to be free of islam.
@ m:
Hello there!
I’m going to watch the SEC championship today.
Crusader Rabbit wrote:
the globe has a need and a right to be free of those sub-humans.
islam delenda est
@ m:
Hey M, Bumr50 just left a comment on my blog saying that he cant post on The blogmocracy, is there a problem???
doriangrey wrote:
rodan banned him.
coldwarrior wrote:
of course, he deserved it. just kidding!
Pepe like ze steenky cheese on steaks and salads, yes?
Ets too good for zem, lets send ze steenky humus instead.
@ m:
Loves the Frenchie! Frenchie,if you are a madamoseille please do not take that ze wronged way.
Hey Geepers? We’ll make a run at a thousand this week so you can silently sweep in and claim the prize.
@ m:
Check yer mail
Rodan wrote:
ROLL TIDE!
@ Bumr50:
What, did you neglect to pay the marriage tax??
mawskrat wrote:
that is gonna be a fine football game, cant wait.
i cant predict who wins this one.
@ Frenchie:
Compromise, bacon hummus.
John Brown is fascinating, because he was such a successful terrorist.
For context, you’ll want to look at this map. No: I command you to look at this map. :^) In 1856, the North had already decided to band together in the cause to reconstruct the South. The rest of the nation didn’t know what was about to hit it; it was still running the usual sort of election (Democrats on one side, someone else on the other – at this time, the Know-Nothings).
Brown understood that if he committed a terror attack close to DC, rather than in Kansas (or Missouri) where that sort of thing happened all the time: then he would unite the South against the North, and force border states like Pennsylvania to quit messing about. John Brown was trying to destroy America as it then was.
I don’t know what Brown thought would happen in 1860. A narrow Republican loss was possible, which would have meant Northern secession (which they threatened to do in 1812 IIRC). Maybe the North would have unilaterally joined Canada and called for help from the English and Napoleon III of France. Whatever happened, Brown ensured that the next stage was going to be violent.
Well, Chuckles has his panties in a wad over this:
Honestly, I think she’s right on target!
@ snork:
So, you think the story is going to take hold or become another easily squashed “distraction” for the zealots?
@ Rodan:
I hope you have a driver!
Are we just making up definitions as we go along? I missed the story about the bomb that John Brown planed in the disco. Or the time he shot up a shopping mall. “Guerrilla” perhaps. “Terrorist”, no.
@ doriangrey:
They were going to spam for some reason.
m wrote:
Can you, or have you fixed it?
@ MacDuff:
Yup,the militant atheists brand her a fanatic who will fill your kids with the spirit of G-d.The perverse instruction of Kevin Jennings is so much more tolerant and 21st century.//
@ MacDuff:
The worst and dumbest commenters on the net pollute youtube.
@ coldwarrior:
What, he’s not banned.
@ MacDuff: I do as well. She merely calls for prayer and humility, no mention of theocracy or of demonizing others who are not believers. According to CJ logic, our first President and father of the nation was a right wing religious kook. From President Washington’s farewell address: Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked: Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice ? And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle. http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/washing.asp
Yep “scientists” are the high priests of the modern era. That is why the Goracle and Nodickens covet the distinction so badly.
@ Rodan:
messin’ with you
A bit off topic. Actially a lot off topic. I just came across what has gotten me banned at 1.0. Thought I would share it. It was a retort to the never ending threads on Darwinism. It took a short time thereafter to be shown the door. That said, the comments posted by me is of course my view. I recognize that not all who post here are Christian so I offer no offense to Jewish brethren, etc. Well here you are:
More Americans Believe in the Devil, Hell and Angels than in Darwin’s Theory of Evolution
[Link: http://www.marketwatch.com...
I cite to this because there is this idea out there that evolution is the new religion supplanting the Truth.
It is not the truth. Rather, evolution is a part of His plan. The Truth is that God exists and his Son Jesus was sent to be the savior of our world - that is the Truth.
And, for those who not only believe in God, but also know there is a God, who will redeem us upon death to join Him forever into eternity with his son Jesus, his mother Mary, and all of the angels and Saints and Martyrs who have gone before us, I say to you, do not subscribe to this notion that the world and all creation which exists is somehow the result of some sort of randomness or mathematical equation.
It is not. Those who are striving hard to avoid the cause of Faith being introduced into the public square are not believers. If they were, they would be defending their Faith and the Faith of all. Instead, because they are not believers, they hunker down in positions of attack from their comfortable exteriors; their positions, which are based upon the promulgation of their status quo, so they can live unremarkable lives without the fanfare of truly confronting the existence of God, bear witness to the small shadows of their lives, that are otherwise ordinary, because their lives are devoid of giving any glory to God, focusing instead on the smallness of their own existence.
Much bickering and bantering occur here at this site on this issue. As stated, the fight is perpetuated here by many ensconced members who are secure in their positions much as the saduccees were in Jesus's time. Hanging on to a false sentiment because it is all that defines you. So ill tempered ,that you cannot even percieve that you have lost your way. Well, your way is lost. But fear not, God is here for you. Every minute - every second, He is pining for your return so that He may gather you in to take part in his celebration.
To those who reject Faith and embrace evolution, your adamant contention in drawing lines in the sand as to what is and what is not appropriate for public discourse is devoid of one essential element. It is based upon falsehood. There is One Truth. One God. One Savior. For those who are trying to walk that fine line relegating your Faith to the back seat [always] to advance your argument so that you are made comfortable and accepted, allow me to say you are denying your Lord and Savior every time you participate in one of these diatribes about why the world was not made by the one true God. You are denying your Maker. Think about this.
@ MacDuff:
It’s interesting that CJ gets his panties in a wad every time Palin mentions God or her faith, but had no problem with Obama declaring loudly and often that he was a Christian. Is that because CJ (and the Left) know Obama is full of shit and is really about as much a Christian as Anton Zandor LaVey? Or is it just that the Race Card protects him there, too. After all, no one objects to the Reverends Jackson and Sharpton being vocal and active in politics, or the fact that black churches are used as recruiting tools and propaganda centers for the Left.
It is an interesting bit of utter hippocracy from the Left. I guess it’s not as if that has never happened before, but we should point out their hippocracy every chance we get…
@ waldensianspirit:
whooosh! I felt that blast from the past!!
@ Iron Fist:
Will do.
@ doriangrey:
I let them out, but my cat deleted a couple by accident when he walked across the keyboard ~:(
I don’t know why in the world they are flagging Bumr. Askimet gone wild!
waldensianspirit wrote:
he’s short tempered! my wife and i are watching the games and the snow and reading the blog…i told her, ‘watch this’ and posted the banned thing quickly followed by the just kidding.
hiya rodan!
@ MrPaulRevere:
George Washington was obviously a pre-right wing extremist…
@ Iron Fist:
Precisely! They back all fakery and fight sincerity.
vagabond trader wrote:
OMG, that sounds obscenely yummy.
I just got back from the rally at Foley Square in front of the Court House where Zero and Holder intend to try the 9-11 monsters. There was big crowd, maybe 2000 people, all standing resolute in the cold nasty rain. There was a big screen set up so we could see all the speakers. Andrew McCarthy who prosecuted the ‘blind sheik’ for the 1993 bombing of the WTC really slammed Zero for this dangerous decision. There is no reason to bring these scum back to the scene of the attack. They are enemy combatants, captured on the battlefield. Military tribunals are the only choice here. Debra Burlingame, whose brother was the pilot of the plane that hit the Pentagon, was outraged that these animals get the benefits of American citizens in this case where they committed such a hideous act of war on our country. Curtis Sliwa was so passionate. He really fired up the cold wet crowd. He kept calling KSM: Khalid ‘the schmuck’ Mohammed. LOL. Curtis said John Gotti Jr. who had tried to murder him twice just got a hung jury for the 4th time because the jury of his peers was afraid to convict him. So imagine trying to get jurors brave enough to convict a monster like K ‘the schmuck’ M. Fatwas and all.
They played a video of Holder being grilled abt. ‘his’ decision to bring the scum to nyc. There was no way he could justify doing this. He looked like a fool. The crowd was lively, booed Zero and Holder.
Also a gal from the 9-11 Families organization said most of the families are against these terrorists being tried here. Lots of people are working to stop the terror trial from taking place in nyc.
Congress could stop this madness. That is the next step. Get congress involved.
Now I have to get a hot cup of tea and dry off.
@ snork:
bacon makes everything yummy!
@ m:
OH DEAR… there is a horrible joke in their about Bumr50 getting pawned by your pussycat… But I really shouldn’t go there…
snork: What kind of “guerrilla” campaign could be held within 60 miles of DC? The area had been settled for centuries by the 1850s.
And you missed the violence Brown did against civilians before that, such as the Pottawatomie Massacre. Brown didn’t serve any warrants or writs upon pro-slavery settlers; he just killed them. The whole point was to make Kansas too scary for pro-slavery people to settle.
The pro-slavery settlers gave as good as they got, of course, but that doesn’t exonerate Brown of the charge of illegal violence against civilians with intent to inflict terror.
vagabond trader wrote:
I think the toothpaste is out of the tube, and nobody can push it back in again. I saw something else, that the total year-to-date google hits for “climategate” is closing in on total YTD hits for “climate change”, and should pass it up in the next day or two.
Bella ciao, Iran
(And yes, the music is the anthem of the Italian communist partisans in their struggle against the Italian Fascists)
@ MacDuff:
Kathleen Parker, David Frum, David Brooks, Peggy Noonan, Newsweek, Tina Brown, MSNBC, Andrew Sullivan and Charlie; all horses of different colors, but still the same horse.
Nothing Sarah says or does will ever get them to say anything respectful, decent or honestly about her.
@ doriangrey:
Especially since he can’t seem to defend himself at the moment! lol
I’m so sorry Bumr! You’re on the “good guy” list, I don’t know why wordpress thinks you['re] spam today!
or skip everything and its yummy
snork wrote:
Failed rebel is more like it. His main objective with raiding Harpers Ferry was to arm his men for an effort to start and lead a slave revolt in the South.
Re: John Brown, Dorn, et al:
You know, I gave up asking, “Can people really be this stupid?” a long while ago when I realized, yes, they really can.
@ MacDuff:
Good grief! That’s exactly the kind of thing Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, Cleveland, or even the Roosevelt boys might have said. The horror! Burn her at the stake!
Iron Fist wrote:
Charles is, simply put, a liar and one of the leading anti-Christian bigots in America. Catch his post regarding this video:
I defy ANYONE to point out ANY extremism in this video. Charles seems to recoil at the very mention of God. As you said though, he seems highly selective in his outrage.
@ coldwarrior:
\Yeah I’m getting ready to go see the Florida-Alabama game.
@ Iron Fist:
Saw this on a climate blog:
And Phil Jones, let me remind you, you’re not God (and neither is Michael Mann).
@ Iron Fist:
I just listened again to Palin’s video for the 3rd time, and found nothing objectionable. No calls for theocracy. No demonizing of non believers. Zip, zero, nada. Apparently you know who has super human hearing, he hears a ‘dog whistle’ only a handful of others can.
Rodan wrote:
i assume you are going to the bar…cause if you have tickets, i’ll be sooo jealous!
@ Rule303:
Sad isn’t it?
m wrote:
Heehee. Time for a ‘Bag on Bumr’ thread.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
not a good week for penn state…first they have mann tenured there, he is now under investigation. second, they had bill ayers speak on thursday and the alumnae went batshit and yanked a lot of dollars.
@ MacDuff:
He’s trying to put a wedge document (heh™) between Jews & Christians. I watched it twice and never heard her say anything remotely like what he claims she said.
@ wolfie:
Indeed! From FDR’s D-Day invasion speech: And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in prayer:
Almighty God: Our sons, pride of our nation, this day have set upon a mighty endeavor, a struggle to preserve our Republic, our religion, and our civilization, and to set free a suffering humanity…And, O Lord, give us faith. Give us faith in Thee; faith in our sons; faith in each other; faith in our united crusade. Let not the keeness of our spirit ever be dulled. Let not the impacts of temporary events, of temporal matters of but fleeting moment — let not these deter us in our unconquerable purpose. http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/fdr-prayer.htm
@ coldwarrior:
The bar as always!
LOL!
I’ve been redeemed!
Smokey the cat and Askimet are on my sh*t list!
@ Rodan:
yuengs and wings?
Bumr50 wrote:
back from your time out, i see!
/s
un real UC ties Pitt
This goes to far:
George Washington and FDR were ‘right wing religious theocrat’s, using LGF non logic. The man is a full on anti Christian bigot.
Call me Spam and put me in a can.
@ Bumr50:
Whew! What in the world?!
(someone check his pockets for spammage, please)
/
Rodan…we know you are really rooting for Bamma
ROLL TIDE!
mawskrat wrote:
this pitt alum is rooting for cinci.
i dont think pitt is strong enough to win a bcs bowl
@ Guggi:
“I don’t think there’s anything crazy about those comparisons” Wow, just wow, thanks for posting that Gucci. The loon is now comparing global warming to the Holocaust. What a pig.
Thanks to all who’ve rescued me (m) and who’ve had fun with my nic!
BBL. Gotta go run the grandparents to the grocery store.
@ Guggi:
Yep. Those mutant space monkeys are a threat to everything! And they’re hiding behind the moon on the dark side planning their attack right now. I just know it, because of Fermi’s Paradox.
@ m:
I relayed that, thank you m….
@ snork:
With a touch of sun dried tomato. ummm ummm ummm.
@ Guggi:
Oh for crying out loud Sattv! Are you gonna take shit from that paranoid faux-scientist forever? You know the truth but you aren’t allowed to say it. Your world must suck.
Oh look. Iran…they are posturing again. Well what can one expect from a religious theocracy that expects people to jump, compared to a complete social democracy where the power actually lies in the peoples hands to the point where if you want citizenship it’s at the township level.
The level of extreme freedoms here is enlightening, it also makes me chuckle.
@ coldwarrior:
Yup!
Holy Pitt!
@ m:
Undocumented spammage he brought home from Mexico is my guess//
vagabond trader wrote:
he’s gonna need anti-spam drugs for that.
@ chickadee:
Good job! Saw a bit of it on Fox news. Not much said about Islamists but hey they are now owned by the Saudis.
Sorry we could not attend, about to snow here.
snork wrote:
No, but they are unquestionably men of this ilk…
@ vagabond trader:
Sneaky little buggers!
And related to Fermi’s Paradox is Postrel’s Paradox, which basically can be stated: If a man can’t figure out what to get his wife for Christmas, how can the government know what’s good for all of us?
@ MacDuff:
Yeah because it would be so much better to have an ex muzz/phony Chrisitan/ atheist Potus who “empathizes” with terrorists.Oh wait
@ doriangrey:
Do I have to say it?
“I know God. God is a friend of mine. And you sir, are no God”…
@ wright1:
Good for you! I remember you (your nic) on those threads because you were one of the few Catholics who refused to take CJ’s divide-and-conquer bait.
Remember, Mr. Tolerance started with the assertion that what people believe privately doesn’t matter, as long as they keep it out of science classes in the public schools. But very soon it became a smear-and-laugh fest against Evangelical literalism, period.
CJ would drag out the Vatican and Catholic teaching on evolution (which he misinterpreted, of course)and would use it to bash other Christians. I was terribly disappointed to see so many of my fellow Catholics smugly join CJ’s attacks.
As I say, I remember you as one who was not fooled into denigrating our Evangelical brethren. You also caught on very quickly—-more quickly than I, BTW— that this whole obsession was not just anti-”creationist” but anti-Creator.
snork wrote:
then that man is stoopid…when all else fails, diamonds and or gold works every time its tried. this isnt rocket science, or climate science for that matter!
@ snork:
LOL! Just don’t bring her a vacum cleaner or washing machine!
Democracy loving Iran bans foreign media cover as student rally nears
I’ll lay out more of these patterns.
The ingredients are:
1. A righteous minority in a homogenous enclave. 1855, New England (a couple decades away from establishmentarian Puritan); 2001, Arabia.
2. A holy cause that said minority cares about, that others would resist, and that most just wish would go away. 1855, slavery (the actors being North / Mississippi / Pennsylvania); 2001, Wahhabism (Arabia / Mississippi / Europe and, in practice, most Muslims).
3. Men of violence, not overly squeamish about who they kill. 1855, John Brown; 2001, Bin Laden.
4. A hegemon which thwarts the holy enclave from carrying out its holy mission – but is, itself, divided. 1855, the US; 2001… the US.
I suspect that political Islam has pissed off too many Muslims, since the Samarra bombing and Ahmadenejad’s power-grab. Environmentalism is the next holy cause.
In which case, we have exactly the same ingredients as we had in 1855. If an environmentalist group performed an act of sacred terror, and it was found to have had its genesis in – say – Vermont, which side would CJ choose? I’m guessing a lot of “I don’t condone what he did BUT…” from that quarter.
@ m:
Oh, so much more than just “sad”.
@ MrPaulRevere:
@ snork:
@ Lincolntf:
He is a “intellectual” criminal without values and shame, full of hate and shamelessness. A disgusting characterless piece of a human being.
@ coldwarrior:
Heh heh heh…
@ vagabond trader:
Or a fishing boat.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
He didn’t really say that! You’re being duped by a fundamentalist plot!
snork wrote:
Governments are inherently inept at running much of anything: NYC’s Off-Track-Betting Seeks Bankruptcy Protection.
How in the hell do you go banrupt in the bookie business? That takes a very special kind of stupid, no?
coldwarrior wrote:
A new trend is born. Climate scientists are going to be the new Pollacks. How many climate scientists does it take to screw in a light bulb? None. Light bulbs are a carbon sin.
MacDuff wrote:
Carbon chits will fix that.
MacDuff wrote:
they dont need bankruptcy protection, they need vinnie the chin and tony ‘one thumb’ guzzinio to run the joint.
they’ll turn a profit in the first quarter
@ Lincolntf:
Hard to believe sattv4u2 is still hanging on there. He always struck me as a common sense kind of guy.
Ah well. Not the first time I’ve been wrong!
CW…who would have thunk? I’m now a Nebraska fan.lol
@ snork:
there is a joke about peer review in their somewhere
mawskrat wrote:
sure! i definitely want cinci to win the bowl game. big east needs some love
coldwarrior wrote:
How many climate scientists does it take to peer review a light bulb?
Thank God Edison didn’t have to deal with that bunch. They’d be insisting that it can’t be done.
Guggi wrote:
LGF has morphed into a self indulgent cult of intolerance, its members following the lead of a puny man who made a point way back when.
And that’s all the time I will waste on it now.
Going out to play.
Or, how many climate scientists does it take to say “asshole”?
Charles new post:
It takes a particularly pernicious detachment from reality to write these words, immediately following the lying hatchet piece that he did on Palin.
He’s completely out of control.
Besides, a lot of us remember when HE was an “Anti-Muslim blogger”, now it’s a term of derision in his mind. That, in itself, speaks volumns.
@ coldwarrior:
Can’t agree with you on the “sub-human” characterisation. These are humans. They are just humans promoting an evil, totalitarian creed.
Communists were (and are) the same. Nothing wrong with the people except that they had adopted an evil creed.
We will always be at war with totalitarian ideas. I see the Jeffersonian idea that people have a right to throw off tyrants as applying perfectly to islam. I believe Jefferson saw that too.
Aaaaaaaanold, STFU.
coldwarrior wrote:
FALSE! I’d much rather have something cheap that took some thought and is highly personal.
Postrel’s Paradox stands!
Crusader Rabbit wrote:
then we will disagree on that.
@ IslandLibertarian:
OK, that’s better
But now it’s going worse:
@ Guggi:
Just plain bat shit insane…
wolfie wrote:
FALSE:
with the following caveat:
antique jewelry selected from my favorite shop. i have the owner hold things for me, she knows what to hold. and then i go up and take the appropriate item home.
it works every time and mrs coldwarrior loves it…she just said so.
He takes up for his new best friend, the demented pothead Sullivan: Charles Sat, Dec 5, 2009 12:52:20pm replyquote
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Without agreeing with Andrew Sullivan’s weird obsession about Trig Palin, he is right about one thing: Palin lied about providing proof that Trig is her biological son. She didn’t.
I don’t think she has to provide that proof, but it doesn’t change the fact that when she said she did, lied.
New hockey stick graph discovered.
http://www.quantcast.com/profile/trafficGraph?wunit=wd%3Acom.littlegreenfootballs&drg=&dty=pp&dtr=dd&gl=6mo&ggt=large&showDeleteButtons=true&width=520
or check out http://www.quantcast.com/littlegreenfootballs.com if the first link does not work.
Way to hide the decline!
Possum wrote:
wow! that data point is wayyyyy out of the mean.
it should be thrown out as an outlier.
@ MacDuff:
Yeah, what Palin proposes is just the same as saying “Allah Ackbar” or whatever. (Do I really need the sarc tag?)
@ coldwarrior:
You’ve made it personal by knowing the special kind of things she likes!
But Postrel’s Paradox stands in so far as the main point:
It’s hard enough to make economic decisions for one person you know and love, so how can govt do it for 300+million different, unknowable individuals?!
@ wolfie:
In theory. But think about investment purposes. Since my husband’s wreck I’ve been holding on (for dear life), but during one particulary bad month last year, a necklace that was a birthday present paid some hospital bills, lol.
‘jus thinking ahead!
My real first preference is fresh flowers. When I win the lottery (if I ever start playing the lottery) I’m going to have fresh flowers in the house every week!
@ Possum:
Oh goodness will you look at that, they even track me… http://www.quantcast.com/thewildernessofmirrors.wordpress.com
@ Possum:
Yep. Just throw up a post in about 3 minutes slamming everyone that ever helped or promoted you.
That’ll do it!
@ doriangrey:
Thats neat but you’ll really have arrived when you attract trolls and stalkers.
@ wolfie:
well, if its worded that way, then ok.coldwarrior wrote:
and here’s why:
the communists would at least fight with honor, and honestly meet on the battlefield, the espionage field, the foreign aid field. they were honorable and brave at heart.
arabs/muzzies are not honorable nor are they brave. they are immoral cowards….every last one of them; they are nothing more than a matasticizing disease on the human race. and, i’m still waiting for the mythical ‘moderate muslims’ to rise up and take back their culture.
@ MrPaulRevere:
“I don’t think she has to provide that proof, but it doesn’t change the fact that when she said she did, lied.”
The words of someone that needs to be shunned, ignored (in the sense of not replying to him or his cult rants), reviled and laughed at.
Charles Johnson is a mockery of himself. Truther-Nirther logic at play there. “If, then……” real fuckin’ scientific………
the above was two posts seperate that got merged.
first to wolfie
then the rest to crusader
Crusader Rabbit wrote:
*Crude beheadings.
*Genital mutilation.
*Mass murder.
*Instutionalized mysogeny.
*Acid attacks on women.
*”Honor Killing” of their own children and spouses.
These people have, ingrained in their “culture”, barbaric practices that should make anyone who repects “humanity” recoil in horror.
I think “Sub-Human” is a fair characterization. Just as the Nazis before them, they have willfully separated themselves from humanity.
God will be their judge; it is up to us to arrange the trial.
@ doriangrey:
Thanks for putting up with the off-topic on your blog.
I think I’ve been straightened out now.
@ coldwarrior:
Pffft! Moderate Muslims.
Those must be the ones who’ve shown enough restraint to not kill civilians.
vagabond trader wrote:
Hmmm, do the stalkers that show up in my real life from when I was a professional musician count? (Got the troll base covered if my hideous Sister-in-law counts).
@ m:
M, no fair!
Had to do the same thing 2 years ago with my gold . Dang wish I could have waited til now with the price being so high.
@ coldwarrior:
That’s the Kos Kiss. But Kos has moved on.
@ Bumr50:
No worries…
@ doriangrey:
How frightening!
MacDuff wrote:
the commies loved their kids.
the muzzies want their kids to be suicide bombers
@ vagabond trader:
Did I mention my ranking… w00t w00t… * 1,392,839 rank equivalent
vagabond trader wrote:
Fame does have it’s negative aspects, fortunately my past fame is fading and fewer and fewer people remember who I was…
AKA the “dead Kos bounce”.
snork wrote:
Could be an upside to it: Comment at article:
Will it flood out Pelosi’s district?
@ MacDuff:
@ coldwarrior:
“Barbaric” absolutely. “Inhumane” absolutely.
“Sub-human” implies that they are genetically inferior. There’s nothing wrong with the flesh. It is the mind an soul which are corrupt. Hence “evil” in my parlance.
@ m:
re: #149
(I can smell ‘em now! –got a good imagination, here….. : )
m wrote:
Wouldn’t that be wonderful!
The presents from Mr. Wolf that I remember most fondly are funky little ones. For example, I mentioned offhand one time that our local stores don’t sell a particular kind of mustard I like anymore. No big deal, and I forgot all about it. Six months later Mr. Wolf gave me a case of the stuff for Christmas!
I guess that after over 25 years of marriage the biggest thrill is that he still listens occasionally!
@ doriangrey:
I just care about who you ARE.
Behold the genius insight here: “Why is there such a difference between the two parties’ relationship to their fringes?
(CJ):For one thing, look at the leaders of the Republican party, they all seem to be 60-plus years old. And the country itself is getting younger.” Yep, those conservatives are old fogies and all the cool kids are libs. Pure genius. http://blogs.uscannenberg.org/neontommy/2009/12/charles-johnson-holding-down-t.html
@ Ma Sands:
Hey ma, Goddess!
@ Crusader Rabbit:
I agree with you. It’s the very fact that they are human that makes them evil. If they were animals, they would still be dangerous, but not evil.
Jor-El speaks.
Does Chuckles have a Jor-El complex?
@ Crusader Rabbit:
they are not human. humans do not act as they do.
therefore. they are less than human…it could be genetics, it could be upbringing. i dont care, really, i have had enough experience in my past with these bi-peds. and in my educated and studied opinion they are sub-human or less than human, if you like.
i will still think they are sub-human because i am not interested in arguing semantics about these scum. when they are all dead, the world will be a better place.
goddessoftheclassroom wrote:
Hey Beautiful, you are such a sweetheart…
@ MrPaulRevere:
Typical ageing libral, never notice that they are exactly what they describe as old.Just what we need,immature 35 is the new 25 year olds running everything. Oh wait.
coldwarrior: There’s a side discussion here about what you mean by “subhuman”. We’re all emphatically AGAINST using that label against non-Jewish Semites in the near east, who can’t help being born with that DNA. I assume you are defining “human” in moral terms and dishonourable people as below that standard.
I don’t think that ideological communists are honourable. There’s an impressive civilian body count that shows that. However: the Cold War Russians were more or less honourable, as aggressively hostile nations go; after Stalin there’s a good argument that the Russians didn’t care much about Marxist theory, except as a bludgeon for their enemies.
So I take it your “subhumans” are people who follow a creed which makes no allowances for humanity. The Qur’an says that Allah is above human-derived morality; Communism says that humanity is subservient to economic theory.
I agree with your anger against those people, but “subhuman” seems inaccurate; they are not a lower level of humanity – rather, they don’t accept “humanity” at all. “Inhumane” works better.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
But, but, but…….he told me that Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal and Michelle Bachmann and, above all, Glenn Beck were the leaders of the GOP! I’m supposed to be taking my marching orders from them!
(I can see why he got rid of all the anti-idiotarian commenters, whether “creationists,” evolutionists, Christians, Jews, agnostics, pagans, or atheists. He wants to parrot mindless lefty talking points without fear of being ridiculed.)
@ MrPaulRevere:
Queeg is a kooky birther, the worst kind of kooky birther.
The kind that is obsessed with Palin’s children.
P.S.
I didn’t know Trig was running for POTUS, so why does his birth certificate matter?
Oops, posted before I read that – you have brought genetics into it. Eek.
I suppose I can’t talk, much, because I’m an evolutionist, which means I have to believe in human biodiversity…
I do try not to get angry about people whose average IQ is less than some arbitrary standard. I’d hate to call them all “subhuman” or to recommend their extermination. Someone else might then put the IQ bar over my IQ and then I’d be subhuman.
@ vagabond trader:
The U.S. population will be older than it is now: In all of the projection series, the future age structure of the population will be older than it is now. http://www.census.gov/population/www/pop-profile/natproj.html He really is a dimwit, a know nothing.
fine….
inhuman it is.
words do mean things
@ Zimriel:
Regarding the level of “honor” of the communist adversary, I cite “The Black Book of Communism” for one, and various histories of the Russian Revolution for another.
Among their many evils, treating innocent girls as property was de rigeur for the syphilitic Red Army.
The Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, Cambodian and Burmese versions of communism are all gut-wrenchingly inhumane.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
Which country? Egypt? Nigeria?
NOT the US, Japan, or European countries, which are all getting older. Lord, that is ignorant.
@ bar:
That post supporting the demented pothead Sullivan has 5 updings. Go figure.
@ MrPaulRevere:
@ wolfie:
GMTA.
But you’re faster on the draw and come armed with linked facts!
@ Guggi:
What are the Wally’s big solutions? War?
He is thick. And has found his peers.
Must go face the global warming and run some errands!
@ Zimriel:
you misunderstand me, i am not angry at them at all, in fact, i have some grudging respect for the muzzie in the way can twist the west into pretzels.
i have studied and understand them. i started reading the koran and watching their actions very closely in 85…
@ MrPaulRevere:
They didn’t fill you in on the plan. Nationalize health care, croak the old folk, and have a permanently young and ignorant servile class.
Crusader Rabbit wrote:
and we had slaves until 1865…
i ask you this, who would you rather have to deal with, muzzies or russian communists? i prefer the commies, thanks.
hello all. How has your day been going? I had a great day and am relaxing with a beer or 2 while I get ready to go out with my unit for a little holiday cheer.
lol, I raised 5.5 mil for Hussein and all I got was this lousy tee shirt.Or something equally useless.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/03/AR2009120301751_pf.html
vagabond trader wrote:
ya just can’t buy class and dignity
@ Nevergiveup:
hey there…i have nasty cold and am about ready to cook up my ‘cure’ if the bangin headache doesn’t go away.
Crusader Rabbit wrote:
I’ll not quibble as Your points are well taken. Shall we agree on “Enemies of Humanity”?
@ Nevergiveup:
I just cannot imagine hanging with a bunch of unattractive commies would be fun.Where y’all going or is it top secret?Stay safe,its snowing up our way.
coldwarrior wrote:
Well i gotta go and chaperon all the young members?
@ MrPaulRevere:
I’ve always thought the “dog whistle” people reveal more aboutthemselves than about the opponents that they are criticiszing. Take CJ’s freak-out over the “Birther” add showing the archetypal three monkeys, Won’t See, Won’t Hear, and Won’t Say. CJ saw “bad crazy racism” in the ad because they used monkeys to represent the monkeys. Because everywhere you see a monkey you are really seeing anti-black racism. Because, well because. Don’t you immediatly think of black people when you see a monkey? Well, I don’t either but CJ sure does.
When you add in his support for KKKilgore Trout (talk about someone who’s posts make LGF look bad), it is hard not to draw the conclusion that CJ’s hypersensitivity is masking and projecting feelings of extreme racism on his part. Was he always that way? I don’t know. I never really knew the man, it appears.
From our favorite “neoconfederate”, we have the Max Baucus Joke Contest.
C’mon, Chuckles, tell me what you think of McCain. I know you’re reading.
vagabond trader wrote:
Yeah top secret. The bar 500 yards from where we are all staying. It’s not the best food but it is close and with the weather being as it is? But if there is a Dunkin Dounuts next store in an emergency
@ coldwarrior:
Ever try normal saline nasal spray? Flushes out the sinuses and equalizes the pressure.I have chronic sinusitis,usually works like a charm with 2 extra strength ASA.
I always felt bad for my dad, my mom is the worst person to buy X-mas gifts for.
She is always in a bad mood at X-mas time, 9 times out of 10 the gift is being returned.
My wife is easy to buy for although vacuums and meat slicers have been gifts. Ok I wanted the meat slicer, Santa give that to my wife, so I could use it. I don’t know where Santa got his info?
-looks around while trying to look innocent-
San Fransisco: public sex tents
They can’t even keep public restrooms clean, and they want what…?
@ bar:
Cash is always king around here but I always seem to use it to pay bills for stuff bought for others. Seems kinda futile.:-)
@ bar:
My wife has all my credit cards. Every day is Christmas
vagabond trader wrote:
yep…saline aint touchin it, thats the first thing-go to stuff. it worked for an hour or so…but this ick is moving into my upper resp.
so the cough will begin shortly.
this is just ridiculous, maybe one day my immune system will be caught up with the bugs in the hospital.
@ snork:
Don’t come knockin if this tents rockin.’
@ Iron Fist:
I won’t frequent places where young black men congregate at night. That must mean I am a racist, or something. Perhaps KKKilgore can educate me so I can rid myself of this foolish prejudice.
Bama up 9 to 3 over Florida after one quarter. Hmmmm
…lower, i meant lower tract.
@ coldwarrior:
Bingo !
RIX wrote:
watching it too
So, this Palin-monomaniac over there runs a anti-Palin-post again:
Palin Calls for America to ‘Seek God’s Hand’
Fine, is JFK in the same league?
The world is a very different now…and yet the same
revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought
are still at issue around the globe–the belief that
the rights of man come not from the generosity of the
state but from the hand of God.
John F. Kennedy
MrPaulRevere wrote:
I won’t frequent places where young
blackgay men congregate at night. That must mean I am aracisthomophobe, or something. Or maybe sometimes certain people being in certain places is asking for trouble.@ snork:
Wow, The Chronicle is the voice of sanity in S.F. now. Good for them.
coldwarrior wrote:
Our nation shed its blood by the barrel to rid itself of that evil.
Communism rapes and murders to this day.
Sure I’d rather face the communists again. The main advantage we had against them was and is that no one in the west mistakes their creed for a religion, much less one which brain-damaged secularists hold as the moral equivalent of the Judeo-Christian moral system.
…but that’s not to say that the communists were any more civilised. That’s easily arguable.
@ coldwarrior:
Yeah, it will. I had the same problem way back when. Caught a wicked staff infection from a stethoscope, then bronchitis. After the first year nadda.Always use those little etoh wipes to wash down everything coming into contact with your skin or clothes.Coworkers used to laugh,then I’d show them the filth on the pad.One time we cultured the wheels on a med cart. Don’t ask.
Guggi wrote:
Great point but among all their other faults, liberals tend to be lousy historians. And baically just morons.
@ MrPaulRevere:
Oh, shit, you are telling me the motherfucker is a Birther only about Trig Palin? Holy motherfucking shit, Batman! That is un-fucking real. Proof he is smoking crystal meth. The shit about Trig not being Palin’s kid is the slimeiest political smear ever. The Palin haters have no decency at all. The Clinton’s never “proved” Chelsea was their kid either, but the Clinton haters didn’t stoop that low (or that crazy). Damn.
@ vagabond trader:
i use the cancer wipes on everything! if i could shower in the stuff before i left i would.
my wife went through the same progam 10 years ago and was ‘sick’ for a year straight…its the nature of the biz i suppose. now she is NEVER sick,
@ Guggi:
Extraordinary quote from JFK, could have been said by a Ronald Reagan conservative,lol.
@ Guggi:
Guggi, you should write up a guest post on his bad craziness with that Palin thread. It’s on full display.
@ Iron Fist:
He’s also a CRUtape letters denier.
@ Crusader Rabbit:
commie isnt a religion, nor is islam
as i am very fond of saying: islam is not a religion, it is an arab based political system bent on imperialism and domination through whatever means at hand, violent or otherwise with no holds barred.
@ Nevergiveup:
That’s too funny.
coldwarrior wrote:
Gotta say this, Tim Tebow is the real deal. If the Gators win, he will get his 2nd Heisman.
IMO that should never be awarded until after the Bowls.
What if Colt McCoy pltys lights out & wins the National Championship
& Tebow has a bad game? Too late.
Iron Fist wrote:
When your only tool is a hammer, every problem is a nail.
Frankly, I don’t think that Charles is all that bright. He’s a one dimensional thinker and adopts intractable positions and defends them to the death; that’s not a sign of a keen intellect.
He gloms onto people that “he thinks” are bright and his little army small minds marvel at his brilliance.
coldwarrior wrote:
o=p
jimash wrote:
schweeet!!!!
i love it
Guggi wrote:
But that was a Democratic God, so that was OK.
Nevergiveup: The “liberal” use of history has a term among serious historians – “whig history”. Whig History claims that history is a march of progress, and that is progress is always good: from the Pharaohs to Barack Obama.
“Whig history” is a term of abuse among real historians, who accurately note that it is question-begging. Whose definition of the good life should count? That’s a philosophical question, and doesn’t belong in history, which should be about finding out what most likely DID happen, not what “should” or “could” have happened.
@ Iron Fist:
That post (#86 in the latest Spencer thread) now has 6 updings. This is 110% demented. I am deeply ashamed I ever supported this strange bizarre man.
@ m:
Thank you m, what a honorable invitation but me thinks you would do a better job than me.
@ jimash:
Yeah, I don’t think you can deny the religious/spiritual element in Islam, but you also can’t remove the political ideology that Islam represents. The religious and the political are so intertwined that youcan’t seperate them. Neither can the Mohammedans, which is why the Mythical Moderate Muslim is so mythical. It is also why I am skeptical that any Mohammedan society can reform itself without outside intervention. Even with outside intervention it has been slow going in Iraq, and pretty much impossible in Afghanistan.
coldwarrior wrote:
BRAVO! Islam has been a political belief system, masquerading as a religion, since its inception; one need only read the Koran to see that.
MacDuff wrote:
i HAVE read the koran, 3 times.
thats why i get it.
Someone (Wrath?) yesterday mentioned the Swiss Jews backing the Muslims in opposing the referendum’s minaret ban.
Why?
1.Could be that the Jews want the Muslims to stop hogging, so to speak, the imported halal/kosher meat quotas. “You let us have some more meat, we support your minarets.”
2.There are 18,000 and shrinking Jews in Switzerland and 400,000 and growing Muslims. So, could be ingratiation, especially since it costs nothing.
3.The Muslims have sought the Jews advice as to how to organized politically. So, could be embarrassment at having failed their advisees.
Nah. Not really. But there is a fascinating summary of “Muslims and Jews in Switzerland” by Steven Erlanger in jcpa.org.
@ MrPaulRevere:
Without agreeing with Andrew Sullivan’s weird obsession about Trig Palin, he is right about one thing: Palin lied about providing proof that Trig is her biological son. She didn’t.
I don’t think she has to provide that proof, but it doesn’t change the fact that when she said she did, lied.
Just when you think that CJ aan’t get any lower He surprises once again & proves the Theory of “Devolution”
He is a despicable human being to make Trig Palin an object of viscious unfounded speculation.
Hey, Charlie said that he would have voted the same way that Obmama did to refuse to mandate medical treatment for infants born of botched abortions. If you’re OK with infantacide what’s a little trashing of a Down baby & his mother?
@ RIX:
Its the Sullivan/Johnson convergence. Demented minds think alike.
@ Iron Fist:
The major religious/spiritual elements in Islam were taken and garbled from Judaism (and to a lesser extent Christianity). Islam also incorporated pre-Islamic pagan elements – the pilgrimage to Mecca arguably being one of them.
That does not deny the religious/spiritual elements, or that Muslims believe them. But to my mind, they do not elevate or redeem the Koran form being a text book of conquest. These elements indeed show an ideological plunder.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
It is evil to make that poor baby an object of salacious speculation.
I would put Sarah Palins character against Charles in a heartbeat, but that is a ststement of the obvious.
Palinn oozes character while Charles has none.
@ RIX:
What specifically is this Palin “lie” CJ is talking about? Who asked what question when and what was her response? Anyone know?
It seems like a bizarre question for a real journo to ask.
But when asked about some of his own extreme statements and predictions, Holdren replied that scientific research had moved on from the latest UN assessment report in 2007. The most up-to-date scientific research was contained in a report written by some of the world’s leading climate scientists and released last summer. Holdren mentioned and referred to this report, Copenhagen Diagnosis, several times during the course of the hearing.
I remember when Copenhagen Diagnosis came out because nearly every major paper ran a story on it. Global warming is happening even faster than predicted, the impacts are even worse than feared, and that sort of thing. I also remembered that the authors of Copenhagen Diagnosis included many of the usual conmen who are at the center of the alarmist scare. So I asked my CEI colleague Julie Walsh to compare the list of authors of Copenhagen Diagnosis with the scientists involved in Climategate.
I’m sure it will come as a shock that the two groups largely overlap. The “small group of scientists” up to their necks in Climategate include 12 of the 26 esteemed scientists who wrote the Copenhagen Diagnosis. Who would have ever guessed that forty-six percent of the authors of Copenhagen Diagnosis belong to the Climategate gang? Small world, isn’t it?
@ RIX:
But what about all the guilt in CJ’s assholeization?
Why is Judas the scary lot free to pick and chose what he agrees with and what he doesn’t with regard to some writer that has known craziness attached?
If Judas the scary lot supports Andrew the Palin birther nut, then Judas is a Palin birther himself.
“he who fights with women and handi-capped children”
@ RIX:
I say we have a Queeg calender, Palin book selling contest.
Lets see who sells more?
/
coldwarrior wrote:
Well, it’s really a floor wax AND a dessert topping.
That is to say, it is a totalitarian political system which at least disguises itself as a religion. It’s both together. Separating those two things is a concept from the enlightenment.
This is the problem we have combating islam: people in the west who don’t want to fight it just assert that “it’s a religion” and want to grant it the sort of deference enshrined in our 1st amendment. This is a mistake. No religion that has one of it’s main commandments that our constitution must be overthrown and replaced with something else is not entitled to 1st amendment protection nor anything like it. The constitution is not a suicide pact. [The vaunted "third way" is just surrendering to islam, see Sweden.]
To make matters worse for our side, the same people who want us to not oppose islam because it is supposedly “just like any other religion” will in the next breath assert that all religions are destructive. It’s not that they cannot see the contradictions, but that they just have that adolescent revulsion towards practically their entire cultural inheritance, and any excuse to destroy it suits them fine. [Queeg, can you hear me now?]
Nevertheless, it seems to me that you and I agree on more than on we disagree on and I’m content to leave it there.
@ Crusader Rabbit:
brrr too many negatives in one sentence there…
bar wrote:
She doesn’t know how well off she is (mom). DH here doesn’t bother at all.