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Guest post by: NoThreat2U!
Atlasshrugs has posted a copy of “The Islamic Response to the Government’s Nine Accusations” against Khalid Sheikh Mohammed & Co. This is my response to them.
Why the Gitmo detainees should NOT be tried in a civilian court.
First, here is the list of charges:
1. Conspiracy
2. Attacking civilians
3. Attacking civilian objects
4. Deliberately causing grave bodily harm
5. Crimes in violation of the laws of war
6. Destroying property in violation of the laws of war
7. Highjacking and/or endangering an aircraft or vessel
8. Terrorism
9. Material support to terrorism
Now look at that list. Take your time. Read carefully.
When people are charged with crimes that “violate the law of war” should they not be tried by those who are in the know about those “laws of war”, i.e. Military tribunals??? If I were arrested for breaking and entering would it be fine to try me in a military tribunal?
Civilians are not educated in the ways of military law. They do not know what constitutes a violation of military law. I am not a lawyer, but I did play one at one time. There are clear deliniations between crimes that can be tried in Federal court as opposed to local courts.
By using terms like “war” and “civilians” they are clearly stating that this is not just a clear case of mass murder. If this is to be tried in civilian court, the charges should be just that…….Murder in the First. The government is trying to play down the severity of these crimes to make it seems as if it is just a “tiny minority of extremists” that caused it, not a large group involved in global jihad. Many will be fooled by this, I am not.
Also reading through this tripe, they take the time to bash Israel and call Americans terrorists for supporting Israel. This will turn out to be exactly what we feared: The Bush Administration and America herself are being put on trial. Their arguments make no sense what so ever.
This is huge but be sure to read the whole thing.
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It should be a military tribunal and then the firing squad according to the Geneva Conventions.
Doesn’t #5 include #6? Do these lawyers know WTF they’re doing?
Well hey, made it to the A list I see! Good topic. Yes, it will most certainly be a platform for unwashed jihadi hairballs to screed against America and Israel.That is the exact reason the haters of America Holder and Hussein wish for the trial to be so public.The ultimate bow to our enemies.
I see they got their “filthy Jews” in there. Wouldn’t be a completed islamic document without that.
@ snork:
They got the Cliff Notes on how to be military lawyers.
summary execution would have solved a lot
@ snork:
Are not the laws of war applicable to states – like the Geneva Conventions? Is Islam to be treated as a nation? I notice that the “response” referred to Islam as a nation.
@ Overlook:
The ummah.
They should be given a military tribinal. Quick trial. Then gutted and buried on a hog farm.
What Eric Holder is doing is a disgrace to the 3000 people who were incinerated just miles away from where these show trials will happen.
and I hope they get a moonbat jury who find them not guilty to make Obama and Holder look like the true enemies of America that they are.
then I hope they get released and somebody gets some vigilante justice.
Get some!
IF they (The 0, Holder, etc.) do it knowing that it’ll harm our country in various ways, as I believe (ie: not useful idiots, but knowing, active participants)
THEN how difficult is it to persuade our fellow voters that this is going on?
@ waldensianspirit:
Proud to be their enemy,wouldn’t have it any other way.
I know quite a bit about the UCMJ and the Geneva Conventions. There are no options for a civilian trial under either for these crimes. This is unprecedented. Summary execution on the battlefield as non-uniformed (under the articles of espionage) would have been less trouble, unfortunately we never would have gotten the intelligence we did.
That should have been non-uniformed combatants.
@ Mars:
OK, dumb question, does a combatant have to be a signatory of the Geneva Convention or does it apply to any individual/s committing an act of war?
@ Mars:
Why need intelligence? Why not threaten what is most important to them till they holler ‘nough?
They don’t care – it’s all part of the progs 9/10 mentality. In response the islamofascists will begin attacking us again. They waited us out and the progs helped them to do it. This is so far up the treason whazoo it defies description.
OT: It’s now been snowing in the DC metro area for 24 hours straight. Anyone know if the Russell Office building has collapsed on the heads of our elected tormentors?
@ Overlook:
Why not? It’s more political than religious anyway.
@ vagabond trader:
As long as one side is a signatory then it applies. As we were signatories then we are bound by it.
If anybody would like a glimpse into Islamic heaven – the promised reward for slaughtering human beings, please see
They Are Remarkably EVIL, VILE, REPULSIVE and INSANE!!!
I hope the military shoot first and ask questions later!
1. Conspiracy
2. Attacking civilians
3. Attacking civilian objects
4. Deliberately causing grave bodily harm
5. Crimes in violation of the laws of war
6. Destroying property in violation of the laws of war
7. Highjacking and/or endangering an aircraft or vessel
8. Terrorism
9. Material support to terrorism
Are these terrorists or SEIU members at townhall meetings?
@ Overlook:
please see this:
http://www.theatheistconservative.com/2009/12/18/heaven-and-hell-4/
Would someone please walk me through what I need to do to get a link? I have failed miserably for the last three attempts.
@ Mars:
Thanks!
Simple solution to this fiasco.
Kill them out right in the battlefield, no prisoners.
If capture, quick interrogation, them let them loose in the battlefield.
Kill them in the battlefield.
@ waldensianspirit:
Oh, I agree.
@ Beltfed:
A simple and elegant solution, I like it.
@ snork:
5 could be something like looting or rape, while 6 would be the unlawful destruction of property, something like burning a Church where there is no military necessity to do so.
@ Overlook:
Well, it seems my right hand hath not forgot its cunning after all.
Hooray.
@ Lolly Gator:
That’s allowed under the Geneva Convention. Unfortunately, we have a handful of Navy Seals that did no harm and are still being frogmarched through a court martial. We have got the get rid of these progs!
@ vagabond trader:
You have sooo hit the nail on the head with that comment! That was what I was trying to convey also.
I’m not a lawyer, but if that’s their entire defense, it’s non-responsive. So much so, that the judge may appoint counsel, whether they want it or not.
@ Beltfed:
As they are non-uniformed combatants then that is completely legal. And has been past policy.
vapig wrote:
I know, the world seems to have lost any sense of right vs. wrong…
The inmates are truly running the asylum!!!
It`s sickening and scary!
@ Insert Clever Name Here:
With a complicit leftist media damn near impossible.Look at the 2008 election, we knew what was going to happen, 52% were ok with it.
@ vapig:
Agreed. Let us treat Hamas and Hizbolloah as armies of the nation. If they are state actors, Israel and America have far more freedom to maneuver. Hasan could also be tried as an agent of another hostile nation.
Yinz know who Rodney Carrington is? He makes silly parody songs. This is a serious song from him. Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6p7HtoYlwY
@ Beltfed:
That works for me. The only reason to take prisoners (and to treat them humanely) is so the other side will reciprocate. We already know that the Mohammedans won’t reciprocate. This has been proven time and again. They are constantly violating the Laws of War, therefore the Laws of War don’t apply to them.
@ NoThreat2U:
bho told us he’d stand with Islam.He sat in a “church” whose preacher blamed Amerikkka for 9/11. True to his word and “spiritual” learning.
@ vagabond trader:
I’d say that a significant chunk of the 52% didn’t know what was coming. Look at gun and ammunition sales. If all the people panic buying arms and ammunition had gone out and voted correctly they probably wouldn’t have had any reason to be panic-buying guns. It’s like the nation got drunk, and picked up a chick in a bar. Now we don’t know her name, don’t really know where we are, and don’t like where things seem to be going but don’t know what to do next.
(Probably more exact if I switch the sexes in the example, but you get my meaning)
Now follow me here. these animals have already plead guilty to the charges. They want executed, which is fine with me. WHY bring them into the civilian courts? It would be a rehash of the prior trial AND a chance to put the Bush Admin on trial. It is sooooo f*cking blatant! And would double jeapardy apply here? Or is that only if found innocent you can’t be tried again? What if you are found guilty? What gives THIS administration the right to conduct their own trial? There are gonna be soooo many loopholes jumped through. I wouldn’t be suprised to see them set free.
@ vagabond trader:
All I can say is Oh God
Well, I’ve just done a brief study of the “Laws of War” and they are a applicable to nations, not individuals.
I will do further research to see how the AG managed to bring charges of violation of the laws of war.
@ Overlook:
LOOPHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!
NoThreat2U wrote:
If I recall correctly, they didn’t get a trial. They were trying to set up a plea deal with the ‘GUILTY’ plea. No first trial, no double jeopardy.
@ Overlook:
Laws of war apply to nations and not individuals? Interesting. See, this is how they are trying to frame the argument. This isn’t terrorism remember, it is man-made disasters. They are trying not to hold the entire ummah responsible. BUT, by doing it this way, they are in violation of the Laws of War them damned selves. Wow, what a clusterfuck this is gonna be!
A certain Nancy boy thinks that people like Pamela Gellar are the real threats to America.
Obama is the one who decided to try them in civilian court – dumb Americans: elections have consequences!
NoThreat2U wrote:
When KSM was captured, he requested to be tried in New York. Clearly, his reasoning was that he could use it as a propoganda show.
The Obama administration is granting his request. One may fairly ask “whose side is Obama On?”
Iron Fist wrote:
Never been in that situation. What did you do? And how can we apply that here?
@ Insert Clever Name Here:
OK. Thank you for clearing that up for me. There is still a concern though since they plead guilty already. The whole entire process has been tainted.
@ NoThreat2U:
Beautiful, the wreaths on the graves really got me.I also countered the downdings by the trolls in the comments section.
@ Iron Fist:
What??? Why I have no idea of what you speak sir!
Beltfed wrote:
Quite concur. Kill them all and keep killing them. take only a handful of prisoners so we can get information out of them.
@ vagabond trader:
That is really something different from Rodney. Believe me. It was so sweet of him
All it takes is ONE juror to cause a mistrial or let them go free.
And this bit about “God told us to do it” would be good for an insanity defense.
I bet they walk. And murder again.
Here’s another reason I support the no prisoners action.
MILITARY PROSECUTORS WITHHOLD EVIDENCE; ARMY RANGER GOES TO PRISON FOR 25 YEARS FOR SHOOTING AL QAEDA OPERATIVE
Army Ranger 1st Lieutenant Michael Behenna
I am going out for a while with my brother. Thanks for commenting on my post. I tried my best. I really think this is an important topic. I will catch you all later
@ Beltfed:
That is so heartbreaking, to be railroaded for defending your country. Shame on all involved in this fiasco.
NoThreat2U wrote:
I’m no lawyer, but I think that until the judge Accepts the plea, (signs it, files the papers, etc.) a plea deals means nothing…effectively, nothing has happened.
@ MacDuff:
The Obama administration is granting his request. One may fairly ask “whose side is Obama On?”
He is on the side of every enemy of America.
@ Speranza:
I was paraphrasing Admiral William F. “Bull” Halsey. He said this (now before we get into the “racism” charges, let us not forget the context 1941 -42 in which Halsey spoke these words.
@ Speranza:
Just finished re reading “The Winds of War.” I remember that being described in the book. One of the fictional characters, a Navy aviator, copied the sign and kept it above his bunk.
Overlook wrote:
Here’s how to post a link:
1) type your label for it (i.e. what we will see) in the comment box
2) highlight/select it.
3) go to the page that you want to post and copy the link/url from the address bar
4) return to the blog
5) hit the Link tool.
6) type or paste in the link/url.
7) Press Ok.
That’s how I do it.
<vagabond trader wrote:
If the idiots who run our wars today could be transferred back to 1942 – Halsey would probably be reprimanded by the likes of Colin Powell and Hillary Clinton.
Unfortunately, when the politicians started running the wars, “hit hard, hit fast, hit often” went bye-bye.
-ICNH
@ huckfunn:
Many thanks. I seem to have recovered the art, but will keep your steps handy for reference!
Insert Clever Name Here wrote:
Now it is “dialogue, compromise, and commiserate”.
@ Speranza:
lol,yeah would love to see the Shril go up against Patton.
This is appropriate
Incredible! New George S Patton speech: Iraq & modern world
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyUX6wV1lBQ
re: posting links
you mean like this?
Star Wars Review
vagabond trader wrote:
That was a great book and my father could have had a chapter in it. He was born in Japanese occupied Korea, the son of British missionaries. He lived there with my grandparents and his brothers and sisters until the Japanese occupation started to lean hard on the foreign missionaries. In 1938 they left Korea by taking a train across the entire Soviet Union, through Poland and Hitler’s Germany. He had some great stories. He passed away last November.
Insert Clever Name Here wrote:
Hey, it worked! (found that on Ace of Spades, I found it funny)
WARNING: not safe for work or kiddies
@ Overlook:
My pleasure. I almost said “no problem” but I hate that phrase.
Beltfed wrote:
Who benefits from this injustice? They should have 25 years taken from them.
@ huckfunn:
Wow, would love to have heard those stories! G-d keep him.
Oops, sorry I should have labeled it NSFW when I posted it!
—
huckfunn wrote:
That does sound like quite a story!
NoThreat2U wrote:
It’s a great topic and post! Thanks!
Drown them in pig’s blood. That’s my response.
@ vagabond trader:
@ Insert Clever Name Here:
I’ll share on or 2 this evening.
Can this country survive the 4 years of incompetence and hatred for every institution that made this country great we’re seeing in this administration? And IF the Republicans take back the Senate & manage to at least reduce the Dem edge in the House, will they have the stones to stand up to Obama?
Um.
Post number 79! Yes!
I knew it. Of course by the time I typed that it wouldn’t end up at 79. Of course.
A story from Korea:
My father was born in Japanese occupied Korea in 1924, the son of British missionaries. The occupation against the Koreans was brutal but as the British and Japanese were not yet at war, they mostly left the missionaries alone. The missionary compound included my Dad’s immediate family as well as several uncles and aunts. One of the aunts was a bit giddy. They called her Aunt Froggy because she had a raspy voice from smoking too much. Aunt Froggy frequently wrote home to friends and family in England. She finished one letter with this sentence: “We think that the Japanese open and read our mail”. She then dropped the letter in the mailbox and went back to the compound.
The next day she, and several other family members watched as a platoon of Japanese soldiers marched briskly into the compound and right up to their front door. A Japanese lieutenant of military police pounded smartly on the door. Aunt Froggy opened it and the lieutenant said, in very good English, “Madame; we do not open and read people’s mail and we want you to stop saying that we do that”. He turned on his heel and marched his platoon out of the compound and that was it. I think Aunt Froggy amended her letter writing after that.
OT/ A few days ago, some of us were discussing how much we hate conspiracy theories, so I thought I’d share this:
A Conspiracy-Theory Theory
How to fend off the people who insist they know the ‘real story’ behind everything
mfhorn wrote:
Okay, to add to the confusion, here I’ve a response to actual Post 79.
A) I’d like to say we can survive based on all that we have survived so far, FDR, LBJ, etc. But how many cuts can a body sustain before it bleeds to death?
B) even if they were personally likely to stand up to The 0, they won’t because the Mainstream media will murderfy them. It is one thing for the press to call the Republicans “party of no” & “do nothing”, another thing entirely to call them Actively, Purposefully Evil And Mean. They’d love the chance to do that.
@ CloudyDay:
My link appears to have been messed up in the previous post. Let me try again
A Conspiracy-Theory Theory
How to fend off the people who insist they know the ‘real story’ behind everything
If that link does not work, try doing a web search for it. It’s in the Wall Street Journal by author DAVID AARONOVITCH.
@ huckfunn:
LOL!
If this doesn’t scare you, you don’t understand loss of freedom:
Headline when I just opened my computer:
What is not voluntary? Force.
Late drive by comment on the decision to try these scum in civilian court:
Dr. Zaius is in charge. The Apes are armed with whips and rifles on horseback. The escape shuttle pod has crash-landed on the Washington Mall and the pilot is looking up at Ape-braham Lincoln’s statue.
/no, this isn’t racist…..
CloudyDay wrote:
Whew. That makes a lot more sense.
Urban Infidel wrote:
Bury them in a pit and pour pigs entrails all over them
@ mfhorn:
No, and no. The country I was born in, and served proudly, is gone. I am currently living in the sort of socialist, oligarchic country I was taught should be liberated and given freedom.
Bringing the Gitmo detainees to America courts is a not subtle way, with devious intent, to throw Israel under the bus along with the American Right.
From the Atlas link:
@ vagabond trader:
The old man swore it was true.
@ song_and_dance_man:
Cry me a freaking river!
Notice how Muzzies whine and cry like a flock of Charles Johnson’s whenever someone smacks them back in the face?
Speranza wrote:
I think it was you and I who suggested they will use our courts as a platform to push their victim hood status, as the persecuted, from the hand of Israel and her benefactor-us-the United States.
And I have no doubt this is the intent of B. Hussein and company.
Zero is bringing the terrorists to Federal Ct. in Manhattan because he thinks they deserve a chance to air their grievances against this country. Zero shares a lot of those grievances, as do his friends, his mentors and his wife. They have more sympathy for these jihadis than they do the Americans who were murdered.
chickadee wrote:
This, I think, is true, but the main target will be Israel.
Man, oh man, if it has to be a civilian trial, I wish so much that I was on that jury.
chickadee wrote:
Insert Festivus joke here
Silhouette wrote:
Hope you have a few years to spare.
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Yes we both did. They will try this case politically not based on the facts which are self evident. They will use the Chicago 7 case as their role model or the O.J. Simpson case.
Speranza @ 90:
Too much work.
Frag them.
huckfunn wrote:
Considering the sacrifices willing made on my behalf of lives, blood, and sweat by better men and women than me, a decade or more of my time would be the least I could do.
Silhouette wrote:
“I got a lot of compalints about you people!”
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Funny thing is that in Bin Laden’s original “declaration of war” against America, Israel was never mentioned.
Silhouette wrote:
Well said. I don’t think that I could do it. I’d be the Youtube of the juror going over the fence at someone’s throat.
Silhouette wrote:
That is what concerns me. As Speranza has noted in #102, the trials may end up with a juries ala the Chicago 7 or OJ Simpson trials. The trials are going to be a mess fraught with real danger to America, and if the terrorists are acquitted, or given sentences less than death, there will be hell to pay.
@ Speranza @ 105:
Costanza is that you.
Silhouette wrote:
You may want to re-wish that. I can see it now, you’re stuck in a small, hot conference room with some Israel bashing Mohammedan and another LLL weirdo who still thinks G.W. Bush blew up the WTC towers. Now it’s your job to convince them that KSM is a murderous thug deserving of death. Good luck.
Speranza wrote:
Didn’t he speak of the Great and Little Satan? It’s been a long time since I’ve read it.
…because that’s exactly who will end up on the jury…the defense team will see to it.
I know that’s what I’d do…
Speranza wrote:
Can you link that? I did a search for it because I have never read it and the one I found, from 1996, is choke full of references to Israel.
Insert Clever Name Here wrote:
It will be a fiasco ala a reverse 12 Angry Men, or in this case, Persons.
mfhorn wrote:
I think that, thus far, Obama has been innoculated against the harsh criticizm that any other President would have received simply because he’s black. A white man in his situation would have been pilloried.
Hell, Republicans were harder on Bush than they have been on Obama!
Look at Jesse Jackson, who has made some of the most outrageous statements imaginable, and is still considered a respected “Black Leader”. Charlie Rangel, who is not much more than a common criminal, has largely escaped public scorn. John Lewis, Diane Watson, Elenor Holmes Norton, Sheila Jackson Lee, Alcee Hastings, Elijah Cummings, etc., all members of the Congressional Black Caucas, have has more than their share of preposterous, racist statements and have suffered nary a hint of rebuke.
How long this Innoculation will last, in the case of Obama, is up to speculation. In the case of the President, at some point people will have to step up, ignore his race (as they should have been doing all along) and treat him as they would any other inept Chief Executive.
Race is not a disqualification for any position, nor is it a blank check; acknowledgment of that fact is the true test as to whether we have moved beyond race.
@ chickadee:
No, the primary reason Hussein is bringing the terrorists to trial is he wants a Federal Court to throw out their confessions obtained under “torture”. He wants the Court to label waterboarding or other harsh interrogation technique “torture” so that he can bring charges against members o fthe Bush Administration and the military for “torture” and other “crimes”. That is what this is all about.
That Khalid Sheik Mohammed might walk free in that process doesn’t matter to him one way or another. That is simply collateral damage in his domestic war against the Bush Administration, the Republicans, and America.
All enemies foreign and domestic. Think about that.
Zero always does the wrong thing. He constantly violates the oath he took when he was sworn in as potus. Even my lib friends are not for bringing these monsters to NYC. KSM cut off Danny Pearl’s head. Zero is giving this hideous beast a platform from which to spew his noxious hate . Zero is showing more respect for EVIL than for the sanctity of innocent life. There is no reason to be so respectful of monsters like KSM, except that he is a Moslem. Zero did say, ‘if an ill wind blows he will stand with Islam.’
He has never said he would stand with America.
He is taking the side of jihadis against our country.
@ Iron Fist:
Actually, I been thinking about that quite a bit lately.
Wow. Just buzzed the swamp and CJ is criticizing Palin’s spelling in Twitter Tweets. Really. In general, if you are reduced to criticizing spelling in something, unless you are an editor of the publication it is going to be in (Twitter Tweets! Does Charles fancy himself as the Editor of Twitter?), you are basically acknowledging that you have nothing to counter the arguement with. It is the rhetorical equivilent to shouting “Look! A squirril!” in the middle of a formal debate.
He’s not pounding the table. He is stamping his little foot. How absolutely degrading for him. To think I once respected this man. That lapse in judgement has been corrected at least.
@ chickadee:
Did he really say that?!?!
Iron Fist wrote:
Oh indeed, going after Bush is part of his scheme but it all comes from his hatred of our country and his affinity to the ROP and his love of communism . He has wanted to bring America down since shortly after he was shat into the world.
After discussing this “defense” with an attorney:
1. The defense is non-responsive.
2. The judge will probably assign them a public defender.
3. The defendants don’t have to take the public defender.
4. The most likely outcome is a circus of a trial, and if they don’t take the PD, almost certainly a conviction.
5. The jihadis get what they want, the administration gets what they want, and the public, after a fashion, gets what they want.
Is everybody happy?
@ Iron Fist:
As your “sock puppet”, I quite concur!
Did I spell that right?
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Iron Fist wrote:
new laws can not be retroactive to past events can they?
@ MacDuff:
What many forget or neglect to acknowledge is B. Hussein is half white.
I’m comfortably with either side of his mixed racial makeup, but others are not. For those who championed him as the first black POTUS they chose to pick the half that suited their need, and they relegated his other half with silence. Now doesn’t that smack of racist bias?
MacDuff wrote:
He said it in his book. I may not have the quote right but it is something to that effect.
Also at his Cairo speech the pos said part of his job as potus is to protect Islam against ill founded discrimination. (some such shite as that.)
Iron Fist wrote:
I’ll have a post coming up in the next day or two about (among other things) the left’s obsession with Palin. She’s even being attacked by Palinoclimatologists.
@ MacDuff:
Source
Judge for yourself what he said. I find it troubling that after the Mohammedans had attacked America and killed thousands of Americans his first concern was about what the Americans would do to them for it.
snork wrote:
We know we have a winner in Sarah by the way they viciously attack her. If she was nothing, they would laud her constantly like they did McCain.
OT –
Poor Frank! The snow’s gotten so deep, now that the wind’s subsided, that he’s having a hard time finding a spot to do his business. I fully expect to find a mess or messes on my office carpet in the morning … and I can’t find it in my heart to blame him much!
Ace has this up on his blog. I thought I saw CJ in there … just sayin’.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyUX6wV1lBQ
@ mawskrat:
You are correct. It is called ex post facto and is Unconstitutional. One of the problems with bringing KSM et al before the civilian Court is that things were done to them that would be troubling, unconstitutional, or even illegal if they were done by Law Enforcement to American Citizens. KSM isn’t an American Citizen, he is an unlawful combatant in a war. He isn’t subject to civil protections. There is no legal reason for Obama to be this, this accomodating to him. That should trouble us all, because there is no question that KSM is one of those enemies that Obama swore to defend us against.
@ Iron Fist:
A in the case of Tiger Woods, I would have to ask “did we ever really know him?”
In both cases, I have found myself disappointed, but in both cases I, and all of us bought “the image” that was sold to us. In the case of Charles, he was just a name in a website who purported to concur with our views. In the case of Tiger, he was a magician with a golf club who constructed a fairy tale image. In both cases, the reality was far uglier and we all felt used.
Now we know that Tiger was a horn dog, Charles is a sociopathic user and the cointry has found out that Obama is a narcisistic socialist. I didn’t know about Tiger and Charles, but I (as did many of us) saw Obama coming.
At least we were right on the important stuff.
@ gulfloafer:
Great!
chukles johnson has become a palintologist.
what a pathetic waste of oxygen he is
@ Urban Infidel:
Yeah right. Someone should photoshop his image in there. LOL
Geezus Louizas two obnoxious liberals – MSNBC’s Dylan Ratigan and Florida Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman-Shchultz (Democrat) go at it.
Blue on blue: Democrat and MSNBC host scream at each other over ObamaCare
@ Doppelganger:
Hey Doppelganger, was the portrait done by Olan Mills? I want me one.
gulfloafer wrote:
whatever man
gulfloafer wrote:
Good vid.
Doppelganger wrote:
Does OxyMoron work?
@ song_and_dance_man:
OxyMoron is nasty shit, man. I’d stay away from it.
I don’t like the comparisons of Tiger Woods to Obama.
Yes, he, the media, and his sponsors did sell us a false image of him regarding his personal character, but Tiger achieved his fame in the first place by real achievement. It would only be a good comparison if we found out his golf prowess was a sham.
The Obama fakery goes to the very substance of his supposed worth as a statesman. The Tiger fakery is peripheral to his merit as a golfer.
Beltfed wrote:
George likes his chicken spicy.
does cj have any of these symptoms of OCD
Obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) is a mental disorder characterized by intrusive thoughts that produce anxiety, by repetitive behaviors aimed at reducing anxiety, or by combinations of such thoughts (obsessions) and behaviors (compulsions). The symptoms of this anxiety disorder range from repetitive hand-washing and extensive hoarding to preoccupation with sexual, religious, or aggressive impulses. These symptoms can be alienating and time-consuming, and often cause severe emotional and economic loss. Although the acts of those who have OCD may appear paranoid and come across to others as psychotic, OCD sufferers often recognize their thoughts and subsequent actions as irrational, and they may become further distressed by this realization.
@ mawskrat:
I think chuckles has some mental illness. That is for sure. I think he is paranoid, delusional and has deep issues with women.
wolfie wrote:
If he was hailed as the greatest player ever before he played a single tourny. Good point.
Speranza wrote:
Is that Liberace’s brother you speak of, or another?
OCD sufferers often recognize their thoughts and subsequent actions as irrational
Not likely
Doppelganger wrote:
R.S. McCain says that Chaz’s Lakota name is “He who fights with girls”
song_and_dance_man wrote:
No. ou are probably referring to Bob Cobb aka the Maestro.
Sorry to go way way OT For anyone with a Facebook account apparently musicians have contests ? Not sure what this really is,LOL. Anyhow,the song I’d like to ask you to download is for this gal I used to babysit for 20 years ago! LOLOL Its a bit tricky to get the Playlist7 ap to work. They sure didn’t make it a simple procedure. Anyhow, if anyone wants to help Ramona in this download competition, its free. The link takes you to the song which is first on the list.
Off to catch the bus to watch the Saints game at the local dive. Thanks!
here’s the link:
Iron Fist wrote:
Hey he fooled a lot of people including me. We never spoke to him in person and he rarely posted on his threads unlike now where he bird dogs everyone.
@ teacake:
PS Firefox browser doesn’t work with this FB ap. Need to use Explorer
Bye! Go Saints!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
song_and_dance_man @ 126:
Don’t forget the Irish part in the white side.
/ Irish Rose
@ Speranza:
Hey he fooled a lot of people including me. We never spoke to him in person and he rarely posted on his threads unlike now where he
birdpraire dogs everyone.@ gulfloafer:
As in a turd popping it’s head out of an ass. That’s just wrong.
@ gulfloafer:
As is my spellin and command of the writing.
… skills. I think I have a tumor.
I followed up on the “law of war”.
Title 10 USC 950 v (b) etc. sets forth violations of law the law of war as stated in that chapter. Persons subject to that chapter are those unlawful alien enmey combatants triable by military commissions.
The law used to try the terrorists is the law created for military commissions – not civil criminal law. Nevertheless, procedurally, civil courts are different from military commissions, and will permit greater leeway for the defense.
@ Iron Fist:
That is rich coming from the very guy who’s sophomoric redirect says “You are a idiot” when it should be as the song proclaims, “you are an idiot”.
Irony is a bitch.
bar wrote:
So is Irish Rose
I started to read it.
Put them down, they are not worthy of our justice system. They are not citizens.
Send them to paradise.
Speranza @ 145:
What George wants is a “nip” Christmas card from Elaine.
Foster is angry that his blog turned Right when his epiphany, post 9/11, led him to back Bush and the War on Terror against the Islamists. His bleeding heart for Liberalism went into shock, and for many years kept his tongue in check for the simple reasons the Conservatives he attracted were the primary cause for his blogs growth. And so, he went along with what made the blog grow. Cut and paste stories about his feigned disgust for Islam. Car swarms, Arafish, ROP and on and on. But we all know now that was just a front to increase traffic from the Conservatives that flocked to his site.
When Bush fell out of favor from the Right, and rightly so, he saw another new opportunity to weed his blog garden and return it to some weird cult like thing. And then he began to comment. That was his chance to challenge everyone there that disagreed with him and the bandemonium ensued.
I’m glad he came out of the Left closet. Otherwise we would not be here.
@ Doppelganger:
I would add crazy to the bitch. Cause she is one crazy bitch.
@ Overlook:
Consider this. There is no way anyone Mirandized KSM. Ever. He wasn’t told he had a right to remain silent. He was told to talk, talk now, or bad things are going to happen to you. Here, let’s demonstrate. [Waterboarding]
He confessed. He told us about other terrorists who were planning attacks. He told us secret things about al Qaeda. It is certainly not inconceivable that people lost their lives because of what he told. By people, I mean terrorists, but these people weren’t given some due process, but grabbed in the dark of night and whisked off to foreign lands (rendition), or killed by snipers without warning or reprieve.
The way you fight a war. One of the reasons I thought (and think) our initial response to 9-11 should have been so much harder is that I knew, I knew the Democrats would sell us out, and pussy on the war before we were done if we didn’t get it over quick and dirty. If things had been done my way, we wouldn’t be worrying about Iran getting atomic bombs. Not anymore.
Be that as it may, do you really want KSM’s confession to be admissible in a criminal court of law? What kind of precedent does that set? That’s something to think about.
Obama has. At least, he should have. After all, he’s the Harvard educated Constitutional Law instructor. He has surely heard of Miranda.
@ teacake:
local dives are the best of bars
Iron Fist wrote:
I couldn’t agree more. (That is also a major reason why I opposed the kind of incursions we made into Iraq and Afghanistan.)
Beltfed wrote:
That must explain his attraction to the White House.
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teacake wrote:
Cowboys up 14-zilch… yahooooo
huckfunn wrote:
Weird, the NFL channel is now accessible.
Why do the Cowboys have a star as emblem?
Shouldn’t it be a hat or rope or cowpie?
So,
1. Each Church has health care people in it.
2. Each Church each Sunday, Wed. night prayer meeting, Sat. chior pratice holds a clinc for Chuch members.
3. The members of the church “tithe” $xxx.xx per month seperate for
the Church to pay for equipment, drugs, ect.
4. The Church pays for the E & O ins. for the Dr.’s nurses, tech’s.
5. Every one in the church gets Govt. paid ins but does not use it ever. Make the loons in Calif. Mass. CT pay for it for us, but not use it. Sort of civil disobedince, in their commie faces.
6. Every one in the Chruch, Church’s nation wide put even more money in to oppisition to abortion.
7. Push back in new ways aginst these nasty ass commie thugs in the Red Commie Democrat Party.
8. http://www.blowoutcongress.com
9. http://www.reversethevote.org
10. Never Forget,,Ever
Just a ruff draft idea, improve on this.