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A Year of Obama Love

by Speranza ( 203 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Media at December 26th, 2009 - 10:00 pm

A rather humorous (but rather sad too) recount of the “slobbering love affair the so-called “watch dogs” had with the political hack from Chicago. As his numbers tumble – it will only get worse.

by  L. Brent Bozell

The year 2009 might be classified as the year Barack Obama came down to Earth. The latest NBC-Wall Street Journal poll found that 47 percent approve of the job Obama is doing, and 46 percent disapprove. Those are not exactly Messiah numbers.

And that’s the big difference between the public and the press. The media do believe he’s God.

Evan Thomas of Newsweek has a way of summing it all up. On “Hardball” in June, Thomas explained that while Ronald Reagan was just a “parochial” and “provincial” president of the United States, Obama can lead the whole world. “In a way, Obama is standing above the country, above the world. He’s sort of God. He’s going to bring all different sides together.” After the inevitable furor, Thomas said he “wasn’t being literal.”

Read the rest.

In the same vein of Obama – Michelle Goodman wins the prize for for sycophancy in trying to make bad news for Obama seem like good news by claiming that many workers actually want to be laid off.

Or as Newsbusters puts it “The premise for this bizarre headline was that many Americans began to realize they were working for “slave wages” in jobs that were far too stressful, so perhaps the recession offered a chance to start over.”

hat tip -Newsbusters

‘All I Want for Christmas Is a Layoff’

Why Some Workers Are Hoping Their Companies Will Let Them Go

by Michelle Goodman

I was at a holiday gathering earlier this month when I heard something completely surprising, especially considering how many people are out of work (not to mention holiday cheer).

“Getting laid off before the new year would be a holiday gift,” Matthew, a software project manager from Boston, told me over eggnog.

“Morale in my department is nonexistent,” said the exasperated employee, who’s survived two rounds of layoffs this year. “Meanwhile, the workload grows and grows. I’ve been putting in 15 extra hours a week since the summer with no relief in sight. It’s not like I can afford to leave though, not in this job market.”

Instead, Matthew, whose employer offers long-term employees a generous severance package (we’re talking months and months), said praying for a layoff is his best option.

But he’s not the only one who views collecting unemployment checks and severance pay as the key to sanity and solvency. My inbox is sprinkled with e-mails from embittered employees who say they’re hoping Santa gives them the old heave ho this Christmas.

Read the rest here.

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  1. Eliana
    1 | December 26, 2009 10:11 pm

    “In a way, Obama is standing above the country, above the world. He’s sort of God. He’s going to bring all different sides together.” After the inevitable furor, Thomas said he “wasn’t being literal.”

    Yes, he was being literal.

    He had the same tingle up his leg that Chris Matthews had and he believed that the whole world would be similarly tingled.

    It must be so weird for the Tinglers when they see that there’s NO 2016 Olympics date in Chicago and NO binding global agreement about the fake climate change nonsense and NO jump-start in the Middle East peace process and NO soaring approval numbers at home, etc.

    Obama is falling flat on his face and the Tinglers can’t begin to imagine why. It must be a mistake. They’re still Tingling, after all.


  2. Ed Mahmoud
  3. Ed Mahmoud
    3 | December 26, 2009 10:27 pm


  4. CloudyDay
    4 | December 26, 2009 10:42 pm

    OT/
    Benefits for gays? Us too, say the unwed

    Opposite-sex partners in the Foreign Service say they should be treated the same.

    Reporting from Washington – Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton won praise in June after pushing to extend many federal benefits traditionally provided to diplomats’ spouses to gay and lesbian partners.

    Since then, unmarried heterosexual couples have been lining up to ask for benefits too. They have approached the State Department’s personnel office and the diplomats’ union, arguing that they are entitled to equal treatment. At least one couple has threatened to challenge the rules in court as discriminatory.


  5. tunnelrat
    5 | December 26, 2009 10:49 pm

    But he’s not the only one who views collecting unemployment checks and severance pay as the key to sanity and solvency. My inbox is sprinkled with e-mails from embittered employees who say they’re hoping Santa gives them the old heave ho this Christmas.

    Although it may seem strange to some, these types of feelings DO exist. I once had a nightmarish job where I prayed for a layoff as an opportunity to escape from that hell, regroup, and find a decent job. These situations actually exist, but to try put any type of political spin on them is ridiculous!


  6. tunnelrat
    6 | December 26, 2009 10:52 pm

    First paragraph of my previous post was supposed to be a blockquote, but something went wrong.

    Admins: could we please have an edit function again?? Pretty please??


  7. Eliana
    7 | December 26, 2009 10:56 pm

    @ Ed Mahmoud:

    Wow, I didn’t realize that Senator Baucus Baucus Baucus is such a bad bad bad speaker speaker speaker.

    People should attack attack attack him and get his face face face up in front of a microphone microphone microphone more often often often so that he can reveal what an idiot idiot idiot he is.

    – It is EXHAUSTING to listen to that guy speak.


  8. MrPaulRevere
    8 | December 26, 2009 10:57 pm

    “Matthew, a software project manager from Boston” Matthew is from Boston? Knock me over with a feather.


  9. Eliana
    9 | December 26, 2009 10:58 pm

    Senator Baucus is correct in understanding that the Obamacare bill is going to hurt the Dems in 2010.

    This is why he’s so bitter that they can’t share the blame for it with Republicans.


  10. MrPaulRevere
    10 | December 26, 2009 11:00 pm

    @ Ed Mahmoud:
    Thanks for posting that Ed. At least Ted Kennedy never addressed the Senate drunk, to the best of my knowledge anyway.


  11. 11 | December 26, 2009 11:00 pm

    @ Eliana:
    We’ve been trying he’s dodged interviews here, and also cut off a number of calls to him on a local radio show.


  12. 12 | December 26, 2009 11:02 pm

    Found a new game online that is hilarious. It’s largely populated by Paulians, but the satire is biting and the gameplay looks fun.
    http://www.usofearth.com/2011-obamas-coup-fails.php


  13. Opilio
    13 | December 26, 2009 11:03 pm

    tunnelrat wrote:

    First paragraph of my previous post was supposed to be a blockquote, but something went wrong.
    Admins: could we please have an edit function again?? Pretty please??

    Or, at the very least, a preview???


  14. MrPaulRevere
    14 | December 26, 2009 11:04 pm

    Evan Thomas of Newsweek is the grandson of Norman Thomas a 6 time candidate for President for the socialist party. Of course he thinks Obama is God and Reagan was a dolt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Thomas


  15. Eliana
    15 | December 26, 2009 11:05 pm

    @ Mars:

    We’ve been trying he’s dodged interviews here, and also cut off a number of calls to him on a local radio show.

    Does he always say words three times in a row for emphasis and come across sounding drunk / incoherent?

    Honestly, they should use an interpreter for this guy or subtitles at the very least.


  16. 16 | December 26, 2009 11:06 pm

    @ Eliana:
    Actually he does. Also in person. I’m not sure he’s drunk, I think he may have had a stroke or something sometime back. It is known he has a speech impediment.


  17. Eliana
    17 | December 26, 2009 11:08 pm

    @ Opilio:

    First paragraph of my previous post was supposed to be a blockquote, but something went wrong.
    Admins: could we please have an edit function again?? Pretty please??

    Or, at the very least, a preview???

    There’s a really neat WordPress Plugin called “Ajax Comment Preview” that I think MightyConservative was planning to try here.

    It shows a preview of the poster’s entire post down under the submit button (if you hit the preview button, that is) so that the person can see it before hitting submit.


  18. MrPaulRevere
    18 | December 26, 2009 11:09 pm

    @ MrPaulRevere:
    If anyone was a ‘god’ on the secular political stage in recent memory it was Ronald Reagan.


  19. wolfie
    19 | December 26, 2009 11:11 pm

    @ tunnelrat:

    Yes. I know what you mean. I am “funemployed” myself right now. No severance or insurance since I’m a part-timer, so it means we have to tighten our belts around here a bit. But to be honest, I really needed a break. (Fortunately Mr. Wolf’s job is secure and pays the bills.)

    The problem with Goodman is that she fails to stress that this is the exception, rather than the rule. Layoffs are much, much harder on people who don’t make much to begin with, don’t have a nest egg to fall back on, or aren’t married to someone with a good enough job to cover expenses.

    I may joke privately about being a “lady of leisure,” but I wouldn’t smile about my circumstances around anyone else. I know too many people who have been deeply hurt by layoffs and are desperate to find a job. Goodman’s breezy article tells me she’s either living in a privileged bubble or is an insensitive ass. Or both.


  20. Eliana
    20 | December 26, 2009 11:12 pm

    @ Mars:

    Actually he does. Also in person. I’m not sure he’s drunk, I think he may have had a stroke or something sometime back. It is known he has a speech impediment.

    His rant at Republicans sounded downright batty. Doesn’t anyone on the Dem side have the guts to tell him that he sounds incoherent?


  21. MrPaulRevere
    21 | December 26, 2009 11:19 pm

    It’s vaguely amusing about how homelessness has disappeared under Obama…yes, I’m being sarcastic, I remember how the media used the homeless like a club to beat up on Reagan.


  22. CloudyDay
    22 | December 26, 2009 11:21 pm

    @ MrPaulRevere:

    It’s vaguely amusing about how homelessness has disappeared under Obama…yes, I’m being sarcastic, I remember how the media used the homeless like a club to beat up on Reagan.

    I remember that, too. I was just a kid at the time.

    I seem to remember them harping on him for supposedly not spending enough on AIDS research, too.


  23. MrPaulRevere
    23 | December 26, 2009 11:23 pm

    @ CloudyDay:
    At the end of the day, ole Ronnie ran circles around the media though, he had a certain genius for it.


  24. wolfie
    24 | December 26, 2009 11:24 pm

    @ MrPaulRevere:

    I do believe that it disappeared under Clinton too.
    It was a miracle.


  25. 25 | December 26, 2009 11:25 pm

    @ Eliana:
    Dems, guts? Not sure how those words relate.


  26. MrPaulRevere
    26 | December 26, 2009 11:30 pm

    @ wolfie:
    The 70′s and 80′s gave birth to a semi-permanent class of media commentators that posited them selves as the equals to elected officials, i.e. Charles Gibson, Tom Brokaw, Peter Jennings, Andrea Mitchell. In the 90′s and today they are George Stephanapolous, Andrea Mitchell, and Charlie Rose.


  27. MrPaulRevere
    27 | December 26, 2009 11:31 pm

    @ MrPaulRevere:
    I meant Barbara Walters the first time I mentioned Andrea Mitchell, lol.


  28. MrPaulRevere
    28 | December 26, 2009 11:35 pm

    And I left out Dan Rather too…The point I’m making is that these unelected individuals see themselves as the equals of elected officials. This is a profoundly dangerous state of affairs.


  29. wolfie
    29 | December 26, 2009 11:42 pm

    @ MrPaulRevere:

    The Watergate effect. Power.

    Soon kids started going to journalism school, not because they were curious about events and wanted to report them, but because they wanted “to change the world,” to “make a difference.” Power.


  30. MrPaulRevere
    30 | December 26, 2009 11:48 pm

    @ wolfie:
    Very perceptive, yes Watergate was the genesis of this phenomenon. Having said that I don’t fault Woodward and Bernstein personally, Nixon reaped what he sowed. But I do object to the cult of the celebrity journalist, it’s a toxic stew of ego and bias.


  31. MrPaulRevere
    31 | December 26, 2009 11:50 pm

    Have a good Sunday netizens, I’m beat.


  32. Poteen
    32 | December 26, 2009 11:53 pm

    Ed Mahmoud wrote:

    Max Baucus drunk and sometimes incoherent on the Senate floor.

    Senator Bacchus, drunk? Shocked am I. Shocked am I.


  33. wolfie
    33 | December 26, 2009 11:54 pm

    Since Dec 26th is the Feast of St. Stephen, here’s a song for the occasion. (Okay, it’s really about St. Vaclav of Bohemia, not Stephen, but…) Good night!


  34. C-L
    34 | December 27, 2009 3:45 am

    @ Ed Mahmoud:
    This this this is how how how government government government government wastes wastes WAstes wastes our time time time time and money money money money….


  35. mary lee
    35 | December 27, 2009 3:54 am

    C-L wrote:

    @ Ed Mahmoud:
    This this this is how how how government government government government wastes wastes WAstes wastes our time time time time and money money money money….

    Could you be specific please!!!
    Good Morning!


  36. mary lee
    36 | December 27, 2009 4:07 am

    mary lee wrote:

    C-L wrote:
    @ Ed Mahmoud:
    This this this is how how how government government government government wastes wastes WAstes wastes our time time time time and money money money money….
    Could you be specific please!!!
    Good Morning!

    OOOOOH sorry C-L.


  37. texasam7
    37 | December 27, 2009 4:09 am

    Oh…MY…God!!


  38. mary lee
    38 | December 27, 2009 4:12 am

    texasam7 wrote:

    Oh…MY…God!!

    What?


  39. mary lee
    39 | December 27, 2009 4:13 am

    P.S. And hello!


  40. 40 | December 27, 2009 4:24 am

    Mornin’ ya’all

    Off looking for teh 0 ‘holiday’ pronouncements.


  41. mary lee
    41 | December 27, 2009 4:27 am

    BenZacharia wrote:

    Mornin’ ya’all
    Off looking for teh 0 ‘holiday’ pronouncements.

    Good Morning Ben Z !


  42. texasam7
    42 | December 27, 2009 4:28 am

    Listening to the Senator from Montana responding to the Senator Wicker concerning the implementation of “European-style” health care made me think of the gatekeepers of our system up here. Whenever someone even suggests a change, the gatekeepers cry out “American-style!!” to shut the heretic down. Up here our health-care is so entrenched, it’s second only to Hockey Night in Canada as part of our identity.
    Take heed.


  43. texasam7
    43 | December 27, 2009 4:30 am

    @ mary lee:
    the “God” comment by the acolyte/journalist.


  44. 44 | December 27, 2009 4:39 am

    @ mary lee:

    I told the wifffeee that I had offered F.D.H up for adoption.

    Her reply “WHAT?!”

    heh


  45. Mike C.
    45 | December 27, 2009 4:40 am

    Once you have the 60 votes locked up, your guys can get up and drool all over the microphone, because it doesn’t matter any more.


  46. mary lee
    46 | December 27, 2009 4:43 am

    BenZacharia wrote:

    @ mary lee:
    I told the wifffeee that I had offered F.D.H up for adoption.
    Her reply “WHAT?!”
    heh

    Oh Ben! Can we share him ?


  47. RIX
    47 | December 27, 2009 4:47 am

    Good morning.


  48. Speranza
    48 | December 27, 2009 4:47 am

    tunnelrat wrote:

    Although it may seem strange to some, these types of feelings DO exist. I once had a nightmarish job where I prayed for a layoff as an opportunity to escape from that hell, regroup, and find a decent job. These situations actually exist, but to try put any type of political spin on them is ridiculous!

    Yes we have all been in that situation, however what that sycophant is trying to do is make a dreadful unemployment situation seem positive by putting a spin on it so that people should be grateful for this wretched economy and therefore Obama will not be blamed. If you are in a crappy job then do what I once did, I made looking for another job my full time job and showed up at work and did the minimum necessary to get the job done. Can anyone imagine if Bush were still president, an article like that would be written?


  49. 49 | December 27, 2009 4:49 am

    @ mary lee:

    Ok, I’ll rotate my avatar on and off from MBLE to FDH.


  50. vagabond trader
    50 | December 27, 2009 4:52 am

    @ Speranza:

    Sounds like a whining libral puzzy to me. You want to do the work of 3 or 4 people and shut up about it, become a nurse. When you quit one job you do not get a bonus and your next job is likely to be the same or possibly worse.

    Good morning!


  51. RIX
    52 | December 27, 2009 5:04 am

    FNC now reporting that the father of the attempted bomber on the Christmas Northwest flight warned the US Embassy of his son’s extremism & danger SIX months ago!


  52. mary lee
    53 | December 27, 2009 5:04 am

    BenZacharia wrote:

    @ mary lee:
    Ok, I’ll rotate my avatar on and off from MBLE to FDH.

    THAT IS A DEAL!!!!!


  53. Bumr50
    54 | December 27, 2009 5:10 am

    Good morning all!

    I’ll take whatshisfaces job if he doesn’t want it.


  54. Speranza
    55 | December 27, 2009 5:22 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    My my, times do change.
    http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/12/charles-johnson-now-acorn-totally-innocent-charles-johnson-18-months-ago-acorn-a-virulent-anticapita.html

    You trying to say that Charles Johnson and his evil twin selrahC nosnhoJ are a bunch of, lying weasel, cynical, opportunistic phonies?


  55. Buckeye Abroad
    56 | December 27, 2009 5:22 am

    Things that make you go hmmmm:

    In Wall’s biography you will learn that [Jimmy] Page has voted Tory repeatedly…

    I have been listening alot to Led Zepplin of late. “Ten Years Gone” is a refrain I haven’t gotten out of my head for awhile.


  56. goddessoftheclassroom
    57 | December 27, 2009 5:25 am

    Good morning, y’all!

    TIX, I saw that report. But it was determined that his son was not a threat!


  57. Speranza
    58 | December 27, 2009 5:28 am

    Ya gotta love how the A.P. tries to stay neutral on the topic. What a bunch of ****** *******!
    Alleged Christmas Day terrorist is charged

    Yeah he was “alleged” because who doesn’t walk around with a bomb taped your crotch?


  58. RIX
    59 | December 27, 2009 5:29 am

    goddessoftheclassroom wrote:

    Good morning, y’all!
    TIX, I saw that report. But it was determined that his son was not a threat!

    Good morning Goddess.
    FNC is also reporting that the Btitish canceled his Visa , but we didn’t.


  59. Speranza
    60 | December 27, 2009 5:29 am

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    Things that make you go hmmmm:
    In Wall’s biography you will learn that [Jimmy] Page has voted Tory repeatedly…
    I have been listening alot to Led Zepplin of late. “Ten Years Gone” is a refrain I haven’t gotten out of my head for awhile.

    I hope that Jimmy Page is a Tory because he is one of my three favorite guitarists – along with his former Yardbirds fellow lead guitarists Eric Clapton (who once complained about Britain’s insane immigration policies) and Jeff Beck.


  60. 61 | December 27, 2009 5:31 am

    Hey there BA, how they hangin’? How are the newlyweds doin’? BTW, how in the hell did you snag such a gorgeous bride? Yer Ok lookin’ but come on. Didga promise her a ‘path to citizenship’ or sumthin’?


  61. RIX
    62 | December 27, 2009 5:32 am

    See ya later


  62. 63 | December 27, 2009 5:33 am

    BA

    Got a guy at work that could be yer bro, they call him ‘Superman’, he looks like a manly Reeves.


  63. Buckeye Abroad
    64 | December 27, 2009 5:39 am

    #60 Sprenza

    Stranger things have happened. Of course conservative entertainers tend to keep their politics in the closet to avoid the blacklists these days.

    #61 BenZ

    Hey Ben– how is the family? We are doing ok. Looking to change jobs in the next few months– afraid the next round of lay offs will hit me this time.
    BTW, how in the hell did you snag such a gorgeous bride? Yer Ok lookin’ but come on.

    I completley lucked out after alot (years) of trial-and-errors. Ran into her on a trip and being both non-European and living abroad we had something in common and similiar interests. Luck and praying had their parts.


  64. goddessoftheclassroom
    65 | December 27, 2009 5:40 am

    @ RIX:
    Oooo, I didn’t see that!


  65. Buckeye Abroad
    66 | December 27, 2009 5:41 am

    #63 BenZ

    Got a guy at work that could be yer bro, they call him ‘Superman’, he looks like a manly Reeves.

    I’ve been called “Superman” since I was 18. I am sure its gets old for him as it does me. Poor Reeves– should stayed off those horses.


  66. Formercorpsman
    67 | December 27, 2009 5:46 am

    At some point, the money runs out.

    The tap dance for this joker, and his ilk will stop.

    Out of control, I hope sooner rather than later.


  67. Speranza
    68 | December 27, 2009 5:52 am

    @ Buckeye Abroad:
    Joe Perry the lead guitarist for Aerosmith is a conservative.


  68. Mrs.Robinson
    69 | December 27, 2009 5:55 am

    How convenient it is that the “hack from Chicago” suddenly has become “the president from Hawaii”?

    I don’t know about you guys, but it is very cold here in California. In the 20′s and 30′s at night. I don’t know how folks homeless and not are staying warm across the country. Our gas bill is going to be really big and we are blessed to be able to pay it. We don’t turn it on at night while we are sleeping either. (I remember years ago; when I wouldn’t have been able to afford it and I don’t remember it being this cold either!)

    Anyway, good morning and thanks Blogmocracy for staying on top of things during Christmas! Haven’t had time to chat; but I’ve been reading on and off all weekend. :0)


  69. Mrs.Robinson
    70 | December 27, 2009 6:00 am

    And oh speaking of the love affair; I don’t know how many packages of new men’s underwear I looked at (and eventually bought) for my husband with an Obama look a like model posing on the front of the package. Ridiculous and really silly!


  70. 71 | December 27, 2009 6:03 am

    Pretty sure Alice Cooper is conservative. Haven’t heard about him for a while that I know of. He said in an article once that all during his heyday, he was a devout Christian. The music was just a job.


  71. huckfunn
    72 | December 27, 2009 6:03 am

    Good morning, all. Hope everyone got safely to and from wherever you all were going. Beautiful, cool morning in the hill country. Several dear eating the remainder of the shrubbery just outside the study window.

    K-Hammer has a some views on Obama Love. 2009: The Year of Living Fecklessly

    A good read.


  72. huckfunn
    73 | December 27, 2009 6:04 am

    teacake wrote:

    Pretty sure Alice Cooper is conservative. Haven’t heard about him for a while that I know of. He said in an article once that all during his heyday, he was a devout Christian. The music was just a job.

    He and Barry Goldwater were pals. Go figger.


  73. 74 | December 27, 2009 6:06 am

    huckfunn wrote:

    teacake wrote:
    Pretty sure Alice Cooper is conservative. Haven’t heard about him for a while that I know of. He said in an article once that all during his heyday, he was a devout Christian. The music was just a job.
    He and Barry Goldwater were pals. Go figger.

    That’s funny


  74. Formercorpsman
    75 | December 27, 2009 6:11 am

    @ huckfunn:

    Always a good read. Just finished, thanks for the link.


  75. Bumr50
    76 | December 27, 2009 6:13 am

    @ teacake:

    I’m pretty sure Jimmy Page used to be an Alistair Crowley acolyte, if you’re drawing comparisons.

    More libertarian than conservative, I’d wager.


  76. huckfunn
    77 | December 27, 2009 6:17 am

    Formercorpsman wrote:

    Always a good read. Just finished, thanks for the link.

    K-hammer is such a wordsmith. I love watching him on the Fox Allstars. While discussing various points of bassackwards policies of the left, he frequently says “that’s insane”. He speaks with authority having practiced in pyschitry in a previous life.


  77. vagabond trader
    78 | December 27, 2009 6:18 am

    What the heck is going on with all these doomsday shows on cable? The World after Humans, Crude, (the evils of oil,) et al.Jeesh, Happy Holidays.


  78. Formercorpsman
    79 | December 27, 2009 6:24 am

    @ huckfunn:

    I do find myself often chewing on one topic he mentioned.

    The young Iranians revolting in the street. I don’t presume to have the answer in how we could have helped with it, but I know for sure, calling the election result, and the bloody aftermath a “vigorous debate” is about as cowardly a response one can make.

    I have real trouble knowing that girl was shot dead on the streets of Tehran by a sniper, and our President referring to it as that.


  79. Formercorpsman
    80 | December 27, 2009 6:24 am

    I’m out.


  80. linoleumknife
    81 | December 27, 2009 6:25 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    It’s all the fault of you evil capitalist. If you would all just stop living and needing things like oil and electricity then the world would be a better place. Jeeezzzz.

    /s

    P.S. By the way, how is everyone today? :-)


  81. Mrs.Robinson
    82 | December 27, 2009 6:26 am

    @ vagabond trader:
    Yeah, saw Avatar yesterday in 3d. Totally cool beautiful animation; but the story was all that…evil white greedy human industrial military machine killing the noble savages and destroying Mother Earth…yadda yadda.


  82. mawskrat
    83 | December 27, 2009 6:28 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    What the heck is going on with all these doomsday shows on cable? The World after Humans, Crude, (the evils of oil,) et al.Jeesh, Happy Holidays.

    as I’m just passing through in this bodily life I find it really hard to get all bent out of shape about what is going on. I don’t care for alot of thing that are happening but I am in this world and not of this world. these thing shall all pass in time. thinking in an eternal
    mind frame makes current events small stuff.

    jus sayin


  83. linoleumknife
    84 | December 27, 2009 6:30 am

    @ Mrs.Robinson:

    And that is the #1 reason I will not be watching that movie. I watch movie to get away from things. Not to have some Hollweird d-bag try and tell me what a bad person I am for living. The political elite and the Hollyweird crowd can kiss the fattest part of my ass.


  84. huckfunn
    85 | December 27, 2009 6:31 am

    Formercorpsman wrote:

    The young Iranians revolting in the street. I don’t presume to have the answer in how we could have helped with it, but I know for sure, calling the election result, and the bloody aftermath a “vigorous debate” is about as cowardly a response one can make.

    I think that the American President can should help by continuing to call out the oppressors thereby letting the people know that we are with them, even if only in spirit. Ronald Reagan and Pope John both did that to great success against the Soviets.


  85. Bumr50
    86 | December 27, 2009 6:35 am

    @ linoleumknife:

    Doin’ good! And you?


  86. Mrs.Robinson
    87 | December 27, 2009 6:36 am

    @ mawskrat:
    Yeah it will pass if it gets colder! All the liberal fantasies of peaceful villages never take place in the cold or snow!
    And never mind that in ancient cultures like Polynesia for instance..yeah they had every thing they needed from Mother Earth in their tropical paradises-but women died in child birth all the time; got traded for beads;or/ and if you looked at the Chief wrong you’d get your head bashed in or yourself thrown into a volcano! LOL


  87. huckfunn
    88 | December 27, 2009 6:36 am

    Mrs.Robinson wrote:

    Yeah, saw Avatar yesterday in 3d. Totally cool beautiful animation; but the story was all that…evil white greedy human industrial military machine killing the noble savages and destroying Mother Earth…yadda yadda.

    You got that right. That whole idea of the “noble savage” is pure left-inspired tripe. Sure the indians got the short end of the stick, but the “noble” part is mostly crap. They practiced genocide, slavery, mass murder, mass relocation, and torture long before Columbus got here.


  88. linoleumknife
    89 | December 27, 2009 6:37 am

    @ Bumr50:

    I can’t complain. I might have to work a 24 hour shift today. If I have to that would be pretty awesome. I like money. :-)


  89. 90 | December 27, 2009 6:38 am

    Formercorpsman wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    I do find myself often chewing on one topic he mentioned.
    The young Iranians revolting in the street. I don’t presume to have the answer in how we could have helped with it, but I know for sure, calling the election result, and the bloody aftermath a “vigorous debate” is about as cowardly a response one can make.
    I have real trouble knowing that girl was shot dead on the streets of Tehran by a sniper, and our President referring to it as that.

    Hey teh 0! What’s good for the gander is good for the goose! Let’s get on with the vigorous debate!


  90. 91 | December 27, 2009 6:41 am

    The wifffeee and me made the mistake of seeing Sherlock on Christmas Day. Save yer sheckles and see the Chipmunks.


  91. Bumr50
    92 | December 27, 2009 6:41 am

    @ linoleumknife:

    Yeah, work is great!

    I f*cking HATE my job, but would rather keep it than sit home collecting a check.

    I know people who do this, and they’re all on psychiatric meds (not that I’m not). I think that dependence on government care inevitably leads to depression, or worsens it if already present.


  92. Mrs.Robinson
    93 | December 27, 2009 6:42 am

    @ linoleumknife:
    Yeah, I hear you! I am a sucker for animation though. I like to draw was an illustrator for a little while in my life. I have to say; we almost got up and walked out at one point because that nonsense was so “in your face” …but then they would swing the other way with it. Like for instance, the bad guys didn’t believe in God…laughed at the “savages” for being spiritual, etc.


  93. Empire1
    94 | December 27, 2009 6:42 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    What the heck is going on with all these doomsday shows on cable? The World after Humans, Crude, (the evils of oil,) et al.Jeesh, Happy Holidays.

    I don’t know, but I certainly wish they’d run something less depressing. The news is bad enough!


  94. vagabond trader
    95 | December 27, 2009 6:45 am

    @ Bumr50:

    I think that dependence on government care inevitably leads to depression, or worsens it if already present.

    Hi Bumr50, hope you had a great first christmas with your bride.

    Your highlighted quote: Tis the idea of these neo commies my friend, get everyone into the government dependancy scheme and create class envy to boot.


  95. Bumr50
    96 | December 27, 2009 6:46 am

    @ Mrs.Robinson:

    I’m a big ‘Akira’ fan.


  96. vagabond trader
    97 | December 27, 2009 6:48 am

    @ Mrs.Robinson:

    Others have been of the same opinion,will take your word for it. I can go to a nice quiet museum to look at art without all the background noise from miserable leftists.


  97. Mrs.Robinson
    98 | December 27, 2009 6:48 am

    @ huckfunn:
    Yeah they did; and warred on each other constantly. I have a friend who is Native American and he calls me “Camo Women” lol. We talk and laugh about all the myths. He thinks its hilarious people get all into the Mayan culture and calendar etc…such lovely people those Mayans were! LOL


  98. Bumr50
    99 | December 27, 2009 6:49 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    Hey it was great!

    How about yours?

    We live under authoritarian control right now. That’s all these people are.
    What saddens me is the girl at work that keeps having babies out of wedlock and shows no signs of slowing. Plus discusses the matter as though it were a normal thing to do, because for her as a 2nd gen welfare mom, it is. She has the full support of family and friends, without the burden of shame or condemnation. It’s just what she does.


  99. linoleumknife
    100 | December 27, 2009 6:50 am

    @ BenZacharia:

    Really? That’s upsetting. I like Downey Jr. and I love the Sherlock Holmes books.

    @ Bumr50:

    Well that’s where they want you. Dependent on them and depressed. When you are down it is easier for them to walk on you. They are the enemy.


  100. vagabond trader
    101 | December 27, 2009 6:52 am

    @ Empire1:

    Yup, now they’re doing the agw screed on History International, with commercials of course.One ninny was blathering how superior the Egyptians were because their historical records were written on clay tablets and will last soooo much longer than ours on plastic. Well, yeah, like Egyptians had so much more sophisicated info to record and pass along.


  101. 102 | December 27, 2009 6:54 am

    Buy Green tech and destroy the earth.

    Irony


  102. vagabond trader
    103 | December 27, 2009 6:55 am

    @ Bumr50:

    Quiet here, the other half worked both days, it just falls like that some years.

    Yes, the societal shame clause was revoked during the 70s when it became liberating to do what felt good, or what you thought felt good. Very sad for all concerned.


  103. Mrs.Robinson
    104 | December 27, 2009 6:56 am

    @ vagabond trader:
    Good idea. Since when did “liberal” ever mean state run???
    Miserable leftists is correct!
    @ Bumr50:
    :) And from the topic earlier, I grew up in the music biz too. My family owns a pretty successful recording studio in Sol. Cal. Talk about hiding your political views not to ruffle feathers…ugh.


  104. 105 | December 27, 2009 6:57 am

    @ linoleumknife:

    If ya like a slovenly pathetic Holmes, manic depressive doper pig, go see it.


  105. 106 | December 27, 2009 6:58 am

    oops! shoulda posted ‘spoil alert’


  106. vagabond trader
    107 | December 27, 2009 6:59 am

    @ Mrs.Robinson:

    Their murderous traditions were cultural, our caucasian/Euro ones are just plain eeeevil capitalism.This is what I call leftist soft bigotry, fill in the blank with any culture the neo commies favor with victimhood and you get the formula.


  107. linoleumknife
    108 | December 27, 2009 6:59 am

    @ BenZacharia:

    Ughhh!!! What is the problem with these people. They have to ruin every book and story I like.


  108. 109 | December 27, 2009 7:01 am

    Investigators: Northwest Bomb Plot Planned by al Qaeda in Yemen

    Investigators say the suspect, Abdul Farouk Umar Abdulmutallab, a 23-year-old Nigerian student whose birthday was last Tuesday, has provided detailed information about his recruitment and training for what was supposed to be a Christmas Day suicide attack.

    So, are these people dead yet? Has the block where they lived been turned to smoking, gravel-sized rubble?

    If not, why not?


  109. vagabond trader
    110 | December 27, 2009 7:02 am

    @ BenZacharia:

    The definitive Holmes has already been acted.The rest is watered down derivative rubbish imho.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086661/


  110. huckfunn
    111 | December 27, 2009 7:02 am

    BenZacharia wrote:

    If ya like a slovenly pathetic Holmes, manic depressive doper pig, go see it.

    Everyone knows that Basil Rathbone will forever be the real Sherlock. All others are just pretenders. Having said that, I’ll probably see the movie… when it gets to DVD.


  111. Bumr50
    112 | December 27, 2009 7:04 am

    @ BenZacharia:

    I’ve quite honestly never read any of the Conan Doyle ‘Holmes’ aside from ‘Hounds,’ but I always had the impression that he was a doper even in those books. Am I wrong?

    @ Mrs.Robinson:

    Anti-government, idiot rhetoric is all that you ever hear from the celebrity left. Tori Amos is going to run against Palin, I guess. I guess when you’re a globalist, it doesn’t matter what country you live in.


  112. vagabond trader
    113 | December 27, 2009 7:04 am

    @ MacDuff:

    Hussein is considering his options. It may take several months of wagyu beef dinners and beer summits. Lets not distract the great methodical thinker./


  113. 114 | December 27, 2009 7:04 am

    @ CloudyDay:

    And I agree. IF the government is going to take a stance on marriage, by leaving it to the states to decide the ‘marital status’ of a couple, and the federal government is going to extend marriage benefits to one unmarried couple, it must do so for all, or else they ARE discriminating based on sexual orientation.


  114. vagabond trader
    115 | December 27, 2009 7:06 am

    @ LanceKates:

    Hi Lance!

    Ahh, the gay counter is “You as a hetero couple have the option to marry, we do not.” Just repeating what a gay guy said to me.


  115. 116 | December 27, 2009 7:06 am

    @ Bumr50:

    Recreational user, 7% solution.


  116. Bumr50
    117 | December 27, 2009 7:07 am

    @ LanceKates:

    I’ve advocated NO federal benefits to being married in the past.


  117. vagabond trader
    118 | December 27, 2009 7:08 am

    @ BenZacharia:

    Did the new movie imply that Watson and Holmes were lovers? Thought I read that somewhere. Gah.


  118. 119 | December 27, 2009 7:10 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ LanceKates:
    Hi Lance!
    Ahh, the gay counter is “You as a hetero couple have the option to marry, we do not.” Just repeating what a gay guy said to me.

    Au contrair! Homosexuals can get married anytime they want just as heterosexuals can.

    Definition of marriage is ‘man and woman’. A homosexual man is free to marry any woman that will have him.


  119. Bumr50
    120 | December 27, 2009 7:12 am

    @ BenZacharia:

    Exactly.

    Eliminate ALL government incentive to be married, and expose the REAL agenda.


  120. 121 | December 27, 2009 7:12 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ BenZacharia:
    Did the new movie imply that Watson and Holmes were lovers? Thought I read that somewhere. Gah.

    NO! If there was any hint of that my gaydar would have gone off and we would have been goneski!


  121. vagabond trader
    122 | December 27, 2009 7:14 am

    @ BenZacharia:

    You and I know that but it is not how many gays see marriage.We breeders are the oppressors,gays want a subset of protected marriage laws just for them.


  122. Mrs.Robinson
    123 | December 27, 2009 7:15 am

    @ Bumr50:
    That’s just ridiculous!


  123. 125 | December 27, 2009 7:18 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    Marriage is what it is, water is what it is, proclaiming water to be a heavy metal changes nothing, but exposes those that try as evil liars.


  124. 126 | December 27, 2009 7:20 am

    @ Mrs.Robinson:

    And from the topic earlier, I grew up in the music biz too. My family owns a pretty successful recording studio in Sol. Cal. Talk about hiding your political views not to ruffle feathers…ugh.

    Where? San Diego county by any chance???


  125. Mrs.Robinson
    127 | December 27, 2009 7:20 am

    Almost all of my gay friends are Republicans and business owners too. One of them even calls Obama The Anti-christ. lol.


  126. vagabond trader
    128 | December 27, 2009 7:21 am

    @ BenZacharia:

    Totally agree,stan is going to be very busy the next few years.


  127. Mrs.Robinson
    129 | December 27, 2009 7:22 am

    @ doriangrey:
    No in Los Angeles county, San Fernando Valley.


  128. vagabond trader
    130 | December 27, 2009 7:22 am

    @ Mrs.Robinson:

    Tell your friend not quite but hes on the payroll.


  129. 131 | December 27, 2009 7:22 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ BenZacharia:
    You and I know that but it is not how many gays see marriage.We breeders are the oppressors,gays want a subset of protected marriage laws just for them.

    No, what their real agenda is, to have the Christian community as a whole admit that their chosen lifestyle is not sinful or worthy of eternal damnation, but rather a perfectly natural, normal and legitimate lifestyle.


  130. 132 | December 27, 2009 7:24 am

    Mrs.Robinson wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    No in Los Angeles county, San Fernando Valley.

    Dang it… to far for me to drive…


  131. vagabond trader
    133 | December 27, 2009 7:25 am

    @ doriangrey:

    Are you kidding, the militant gays teaching our kids, the Kevin Jennings types, want to establish the gay lifestyle as superior to the Judeo Christian model.Nothing else will do for them.


  132. 134 | December 27, 2009 7:26 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    Hussein is considering his options. It may take several months of wagyu beef dinners and beer summits. Lets not distract the great methodical thinker./

    Alas, this is all too true.

    Our foreign policy should be encapsulated in one simple sentence: Inspire love in the hearts of our friends and fear in the hearts of our enemies.

    Everything else is detail and tactics.

    Our friends should know thay have a loyal and powerful ally, and our enemies should know that they will die in massive numbers when we are attacked. Those enemies who embrace death will be granted their wish, and those who are left may rethink their ideological position.


  133. Macker
    135 | December 27, 2009 7:27 am

    Eliana wrote:

    There’s a really neat WordPress Plugin called “Ajax Comment Preview” that I think MightyConservative was planning to try here.

    It shows a preview of the poster’s entire post down under the submit button (if you hit the preview button, that is) so that the person can see it before hitting submit.

    And they should name the button not just “Preview” but “Preview Is My Friend”!


  134. Macker
    136 | December 27, 2009 7:30 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ doriangrey:

    Are you kidding, the militant gays teaching our kids, the Kevin Jennings types, want to establish the gay lifestyle as superior to the Judeo Christian model.Nothing else will do for them.

    [Deleted]


  135. 137 | December 27, 2009 7:31 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Are you kidding, the militant gays teaching our kids, the Kevin Jennings types, want to establish the gay lifestyle as superior to the Judeo Christian model.Nothing else will do for them.

    Meh.. that’s just typical over achievement behavior, nobody win’s first place by shooting for 3rd place. They are attempting to legitimize their lifestyle, portraying it as superior is just a side affect of that struggle.

    Who would accept their assertions if they went around claiming, Our sexual preferences are perverted but we want you to accept them as normal anyway…


  136. chickadee
    138 | December 27, 2009 7:31 am

    What a desperate and cruel move for this idiot to try to spin losing your job into a plus. Most people who read her disingenuous article are going to be appalled at such salacious pandering to Zero and what he has wrought on our lives. Even my lib friends are worried abt. losing more accounts and even their jobs or businesses. The msm is making a fool of itself more and more everyday. No one is feeling the tingle but them and they are looking ridiculous.

    Good Morning folks.


  137. Macker
    139 | December 27, 2009 7:32 am

    @ doriangrey:

    [Deleted]


  138. 140 | December 27, 2009 7:33 am

    Macker wrote:

    vagabond trader wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    Are you kidding, the militant gays teaching our kids, the Kevin Jennings types, want to establish the gay lifestyle as superior to the Judeo Christian model.Nothing else will do for them.
    [Deleted]

    Things that make you go Hmmmmmmmm….


  139. Macker
    141 | December 27, 2009 7:34 am

    chickadee wrote:

    What a desperate and cruel move for this idiot to try to spin losing your job into a plus. Most people who read her disingenuous article are going to be appalled at such salacious pandering to Zero and what he has wrought on our lives. Even my lib friends are worried abt. losing more accounts and even their jobs or businesses. The msm is making a fool of itself more and more everyday. No one is feeling the tingle but them and they are looking ridiculous.

    Or, as the woman from Detroit put it, “I want my Оба́ма Money!”


  140. Mrs.Robinson
    142 | December 27, 2009 7:34 am

    @ doriangrey:
    Hee hee. Celebs like it because the studio in a dumpy industrial area; hidden away like an oasis from the public. And it’s funny, because if it weren’t for my father’s conservative/capitalistic tendencies and talent (who is also ex-marine disabled American, Korean War) he wouldn’t have succeeded for almost 30 years in that business and launched the careers of a few pretty famous people. He was also a personal manager for some successful musicians and actors. I remember writing rent checks for a few of them, when they were unknown and “down and out” before they made it big. He is a good and generous man; and really smart as well.


  141. 143 | December 27, 2009 7:34 am

    Macker wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    [Deleted]

    Oh comer on Macker, tell me what you really think…


  142. 144 | December 27, 2009 7:37 am

    @ Mrs.Robinson:

    Hmmm, sounds like the Record Plant… Damn shame as it sound’s exactly like the kind of studio I would like to record my next CD in… except of course there is probably no way in hell I could afford your families studio… Oh well sigh….


  143. vagabond trader
    145 | December 27, 2009 7:38 am

    @ chickadee:

    Morning Chickadee. These entitlement minded idiots are hedging their bets, waiting for “the man” to pay their rent, fill up their refrigerators and gas tanks.


  144. vagabond trader
    146 | December 27, 2009 7:40 am

    @ doriangrey:

    Who would accept their assertions if they went around claiming, Our sexual preferences are perverted but we want you to accept them as normal anyway…

    You tell me, Jennings still has his cushy job last I knew.


  145. Macker
    147 | December 27, 2009 7:43 am

    @ doriangrey:

    I’m being polite to any conservatives on this site…who happen to be gay.


  146. vagabond trader
    148 | December 27, 2009 7:44 am

    Our DHS mistress opens mouth, inserts foot.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/politicolive/1209/Napolitano_The_system_worked.html?showall


  147. Mrs.Robinson
    149 | December 27, 2009 7:47 am

    @ doriangrey:
    Record Plant is close, but that’s not it. :) You never know! I’ll send my sister your link. I can’t promise anything-the management side of it is fading fast and away. Most musicians have lawyers now as managers. Don’t give up though!


  148. 150 | December 27, 2009 7:49 am

    Macker wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I’m being polite to any conservatives on this site…who happen to be gay.

    Ah… gotcha… Let me clarify something, I don’t have a problem with gays, just the militant gay agenda (well pretty much any militant agenda for that matter). My NIC come from the last band I played in. Dorian Grey.

    It was a three piece hard rock/metal trio. The bassist and drummer were gay, an item as it were. Not flaming out there in your face gay, but gay just the same. I played with them for 6 years, if I’m a homophobe, I am one seriously confused homophobe.


  149. Bumr50
    151 | December 27, 2009 7:52 am

    @ doriangrey:

    I’m convinced that Bob Dylan thinks HE’S Dorian Grey…

    The last time I saw him perform, I just felt BAD for him.


  150. vagabond trader
    152 | December 27, 2009 7:54 am

    I knew it, terrorist had device hooked up to the family jewels. Wonder if we’ll be paying for his sex change operation now. :-)

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/12/great-balls-of-fire.html


  151. chickadee
    153 | December 27, 2009 7:56 am

    Macker wrote:

    chickadee wrote:

    What a desperate and cruel move for this idiot to try to spin losing your job into a plus. Most people who read her disingenuous article are going to be appalled at such salacious pandering to Zero and what he has wrought on our lives. Even my lib friends are worried abt. losing more accounts and even their jobs or businesses. The msm is making a fool of itself more and more everyday. No one is feeling the tingle but them and they are looking ridiculous.

    Or, as the woman from Detroit put it, “I want my Оба́ма Money!”

    That Detroit video and others like it, are going to sink many Dems for years. That ignorant woman, a human parasite, and the 1000′s of others like her, elbowing and fighting for ‘free money’ from “Obama’s Stash” is disgusting and sickening. This is the kind of society that the Dems are responsible for. Every city in this country, imploding and full of scavengers, is run by a Dem. It is such a crime what they have done to this country.
    “Obama’s Stash” This is shameful and embarrassing. And Zero revels in it. Like it really is his largess he is dispensing and not our hard earned money.


  152. 154 | December 27, 2009 7:58 am

    Mrs.Robinson wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Record Plant is close, but that’s not it. You never know! I’ll send my sister your link. I can’t promise anything-the management side of it is fading fast and away. Most musicians have lawyers now as managers. Don’t give up though!

    Anything I record in the future will be pretty much for personal satisfaction. I have already given up on the notion of making any money off my music anymore.

    What I want now is to record something that I can be proud of, something that shows me as the musician I believe myself to be. To hell with whether it is commercially viable or not.

    I personally consider Jimi Hendrix’s “All along the Watchtower” to be one of the finest examples of artistic talent+studio engineering+production ever produced, and I would like to produce my own “All along the Watchtower” some day.


  153. vagabond trader
    155 | December 27, 2009 7:59 am

    3 acts of jihadi terror on US soil this year.Change!!!


  154. 156 | December 27, 2009 8:00 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    Guess some mooselimbs are just ballsyer than others.


  155. 157 | December 27, 2009 8:01 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I’m convinced that Bob Dylan thinks HE’S Dorian Grey…
    The last time I saw him perform, I just felt BAD for him.

    Meh… All musicians have off performances, especially legends like Robert Zimmerman.


  156. Mrs.Robinson
    158 | December 27, 2009 8:01 am

    @ chickadee:
    I heard a caller on Rush who was from Detroit a few weeks back. He was saying the city looks like a war zone. People are setting their houses on fire because they can’t pay the mortgages.


  157. vagabond trader
    159 | December 27, 2009 8:05 am

    @ BenZacharia:

    LOL!

    @ Mrs.Robinson:

    This will tell you the story of Detroit Mrs R. Warning, dismal yet fascinating.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6WKMNmFsxM


  158. 160 | December 27, 2009 8:06 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ BenZacharia:
    I’ve quite honestly never read any of the Conan Doyle ‘Holmes’ aside from ‘Hounds,’ but I always had the impression that he was a doper even in those books. Am I wrong?

    Nope. In the books he was a regular heroine and cocaine user, but it wasn’t bad as such. In the era the books are set it was as socially acceptable as drinking port and sherry. Perhaps moreso given they didn’t make you obviously inebriated. This new film is a lot closer to how the books were written – and it has Watson as something other than an incompetent bumbling idiot which is something that has annoyed me about every adaptation made up to now. All of the previous adaptations ignored huge chunks of Holmes’ character. The man was quite the bohemian dandy, a socially mobile and highly fashion-conscious chap who wouldn’t be seen dead wearing a deerstalker in London. The “definitive” portrayal of him is nothing like the actual character, but at the time it was politically incorrect to portray such a noble man as a drug user or anything other than completely morally upright – at least by the standards of the day.


  159. Mrs.Robinson
    161 | December 27, 2009 8:08 am

    @ doriangrey:
    That’s an excellent way to look at it. We were struggling when all the digital stuff starting happening and everyone started building their home studios; but now it’s tilting back to musicians wanting the good old analog sound again. (Kid Rock was one of the latest customers I do believe) :)


  160. Mrs.Robinson
    162 | December 27, 2009 8:11 am

    @ archonix:
    And even though both of them are/were scoundrels; I must confess I do enjoy watching Robert Downy Jr. and Jude Law do anything.


  161. kansas
    163 | December 27, 2009 8:13 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    3 acts of jihadi terror on US soil this year.Change!!!

    No, those were individual crimes. OT, looks like the asylum is going to give up some Lizards. I see disagreement about whining about Hot
    Air posting a video, while linking right to it. Heh.


  162. chickadee
    164 | December 27, 2009 8:13 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ chickadee:

    Morning Chickadee. These entitlement minded idiots are hedging their bets, waiting for “the man” to pay their rent, fill up their refrigerators and gas tanks.

    I think most of these people are going to be disappointed in what they get from Zero. He doesn’t give a shite abt. them. He is confident of their vote no matter what happens. That’s what has to change.
    People need to be educated. I’ve seen ads of the gov’t pushing food stamps. Hustling welfare. They want people on the dole. Rush said something like this: ‘Compassion is defined as NOT how many people are on the gov’t dole but how many people no longer need gov’t assistance.’
    That is how you get a strong, productive and resilient society.


  163. Mrs.Robinson
    165 | December 27, 2009 8:15 am

    @ vagabond trader:
    I think I’ve seen that VA! Watching now. My mom was born in Detroit. My grandfather settled there from Greece and he had a coffee shop/diner downtown.


  164. Bumr50
    166 | December 27, 2009 8:15 am

    @ doriangrey:

    He was performing with a Phil Lesh band incarnation, so it MAY have been just bad chemistry, but I was pretty ‘transcendent’ that day.
    It was pretty awful, still.
    Have ya heard the Christmas album?


  165. Mrs.Robinson
    167 | December 27, 2009 8:17 am

    @ Mrs.Robinson:
    I mean VT not VA! sorry!


  166. vagabond trader
    168 | December 27, 2009 8:17 am

    @ Mrs.Robinson:

    Such a shame. So many immigrants and blacks coming north for good jobs to better their lives and this is what decades of decline under demonrat leadership looks like.


  167. vagabond trader
    169 | December 27, 2009 8:19 am

    @ chickadee:

    Still wondering how these slackers will be paying for health insurance. Nah, not really, we productive useful idiots caught that assignment. Why work indeed.


  168. 170 | December 27, 2009 8:20 am

    Mrs.Robinson wrote:

    @ archonix:
    And even though both of them are/were scoundrels; I must confess I do enjoy watching Robert Downy Jr. and Jude Law do anything.

    Indeed those two are scoundrels, their work impressive, but scoundrels they most certainly are. Oddly enough once upon a time, before the advent of moving pictures, all thespians were considered scoundrels, shame we didn’t pay closer attention to our forefathers opinions on thespians.


  169. 171 | December 27, 2009 8:22 am

    @ doriangrey:

    I can’t help but wonder why things changed.


  170. unclassifiable
    172 | December 27, 2009 8:24 am

    Melissa Lafsky, the deputy Web editor of Discover magazine, revisited the death of Mary Jo Kopechne, killed when Kennedy drove his car off Dyke Bridge in 1969 and left her behind. “Mary Jo wasn’t a right-wing talking point or a negative campaign slogan,” Lafsky wrote. “We don’t know how much Kennedy was affected by her death, or what she’d have thought about arguably being a catalyst for the most successful Senate career in history.”

    Can we just award her the 2009 Nobel WTF Prize and be done with it?


  171. vagabond trader
    173 | December 27, 2009 8:27 am

    @ unclassifiable:

    Read that a while back. Yeah, I’m sure Mary Jo and her family would be so proud to have sacrificed her life to cover for the swimming coward who just happened to name his dog Splash. Unreal, the snakes that slither around in the head of a libral.


  172. Bumr50
    174 | December 27, 2009 8:32 am

    Gibbs and Napolitano say ‘everything worked as it should.’

    No statement from 0.

    Great job, guys!


  173. unclassifiable
    175 | December 27, 2009 8:35 am

    @ Bumr50:

    What? Did you expect them to actually apologize for the foul-up? Demigods do not apologize!


  174. 176 | December 27, 2009 8:36 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    He was performing with a Phil Lesh band incarnation, so it MAY have been just bad chemistry, but I was pretty ‘transcendent’ that day.
    It was pretty awful, still.
    Have ya heard the Christmas album?

    Robert Zimmerman struggles each and every performance to live up to the performances that made Bob Dylan a genuine living legend. The problem of course is, that those performances that make one a legend, are just that, legendary performances.

    Really great recordings are compilations of many small segments of legendary performance stitched together seamlessly to appear as if they are legendary performances. Sometimes when the artist is really lucky those recording sessions happen very quickly, usually they take a long time to cobble together. Some of the finest recording ever done took upwards of 2 and a half years of 8 to 10 hours a day six days a week to achieve.

    The producer/engineer I admire the most, Mutt Lange, is rumored/renowned to be a Stalinist asshole, whose production work typically take 2 years. In my personal opinion however their is and has never been a better producer. I would love to have him produce for me, knowing fully well in advance I would probably hate him every single second we worked together, sadly I will never be able to afford that.

    Bob Dylan has had some really great production/engineering talent and now has to live up to the performances they captured from him, that is no small task I guarantee you.


  175. Bumr50
    177 | December 27, 2009 8:37 am

    @ unclassifiable:

    I’m sure the evil Bush would’ve stayed a jillion miles away in the middle of the Pacific after a terror attack.

    /


  176. 178 | December 27, 2009 8:38 am

    archonix wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I can’t help but wonder why things changed.

    Bright lights my friend, bright lights and lots of money…


  177. Mrs.Robinson
    179 | December 27, 2009 8:41 am

    @ doriangrey:
    We just talked to my step daughter about Jimmy Stewart the other day. War hero, good husband and father, AND an actor. So simple and NORMAL he was. Those were the days.


  178. Bumr50
    180 | December 27, 2009 8:44 am

    @ doriangrey:

    I dug him as a Wilbury.

    Mutt Lange is a legend in his own right. Most of my favorite artists are Marxists. I just think that it’s ironic that the system that they loathe so much has made them insulated from the realities of the common man. I’m sure that in itself eats at most of them.

    I wan’t trying to diss Dylan. I have the utmost respect for the man. I just think that his stage performance leaves much to be desired. Kind of like an athlete whose once incredible skills have left him, and it’s time to leave the field/ice.


  179. kansas
    181 | December 27, 2009 8:45 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    Gibbs and Napolitano say ‘everything worked as it should.’
    No statement from 0.
    Great job, guys!

    So they let they guy on the plane with an explosive device, let him assemble it and detonate it to see if it would work on purpose? That is what they are supposed to do? Shit.

    Personally I think they wish the thing would have breached the hull and fuel tank, and then brought the plane down. That way they could be bullshitting about it being pilot error or some such. My personal feeling is that all plane crashes in the last few years blamed on some poor pilot schmuck should be reinvestigated.


  180. Mrs.Robinson
    182 | December 27, 2009 8:47 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    The producer/engineer I admire the most, Mutt Lange, is rumored/renowned to be a Stalinist asshole, whose production work typically take 2 years. In my personal opinion however their is and has never been a better producer. I would love to have him produce for me, knowing fully well in advance I would probably hate him every single second we worked together, sadly I will never be able to afford that.

    LMAO~! yep! The one’s I’ve worked with are exactly like that!


  181. 183 | December 27, 2009 8:48 am

    Mrs.Robinson wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    We just talked to my step daughter about Jimmy Stewart the other day. War hero, good husband and father, AND an actor. So simple and NORMAL he was. Those were the days.

    There have always been a few good decent people in the performing arts, however the truth is that back in Jimmy Stewart’s day, the movie studios expended a great deal of time, energy and money ensuring that their talent appeared to be squeaky clean, wholesome, decent people, their bad behavior and misdeeds were carefully concealed from the general public.

    Today they no longer bother because they have dulled the sensibilities and moral expectations of the general public to the point that they no longer have to.


  182. Bumr50
    184 | December 27, 2009 8:54 am

    @ kansas:

    I put a link in the next thread.

    She she should be fired immediately just for being STUPID enough to say that. Major FAIL, lady. Need I remind everyone she’s head of security for the whole country?


  183. 185 | December 27, 2009 8:56 am

    @ Bumr50:

    ROTFLMAO… Sorry, I wasnt suggesting that Mutt Lange is a Marxist, no he is the ultimate control freak. Every single detail of what gets recorded gets his personal touch. When recording Whitesnakes debut album he made David Coverdale redo the vocals so many times that David, who is one of those incredibly rare musicians with perfect pitch, is reputed to have gotten into an actual fistfight with Mutt, because Mutts supposedly kept insisting that David was off key..

    As for Bob, well his stage performances have never been anything to write home about, it is and always has been his recording a song writing that made him a legend.


  184. 186 | December 27, 2009 9:02 am

    Hope the USSS is just as effective.

    Heh


  185. Bumr50
    187 | December 27, 2009 9:03 am

    @ doriangrey:

    oops! Sorry:)

    I’m just so used to my musical heroes disappointing me politically that I assumed that’s what you meant.

    My favorite bands are Pink Floyd and Radiohead. Roger Waters history of idiotic political activism is well documented, and Radiohead (esp. Thom Yorke) are outspoken outright Marxists.


  186. Mrs.Robinson
    188 | December 27, 2009 9:04 am

    @ doriangrey:
    That’s so true.doriangrey wrote:

    ROTFLMAO… Sorry, I wasnt suggesting that Mutt Lange is a Marxist, no he is the ultimate control freak. Every single detail of what gets recorded gets his personal touch.

    LOL! I could have become a sound engineer (back in the 70′s when I was young); my father hinted at it all the time; but I said no thanks after being around these guys! I can’t be a kiss-ass and keep my mouth shut ever. LOL And gee look how these guys treat women sometimes.

    Got to go make breakfast! Good day everyone!


  187. Poteen
    189 | December 27, 2009 9:09 am

    @ doriangrey:
    Just my 2 cents you know, but I always thought Dylan was a great song writer but in his performances he sounds like a really stoned, really constipated guy trying to grunt his way to relief.

    Apologies for the Sunday morning graphics.//


  188. Bumr50
    190 | December 27, 2009 9:10 am

    @ Mrs.Robinson:

    Thank you Alan Parsons for engineering DSOTM!

    Never would’ve happened without him.


  189. Bumr50
    191 | December 27, 2009 9:11 am

    @ Poteen:

    As a relative young’un, I’ve recently purchased ‘The Last Waltz’, and his one performance there was pretty good.


  190. 192 | December 27, 2009 9:14 am

    Poteen wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Just my 2 cents you know, but I always thought Dylan was a great song writer but in his performances he sounds like a really stoned, really constipated guy trying to grunt his way to relief.
    Apologies for the Sunday morning graphics.//

    ROTFLMAO… Same here…


  191. 193 | December 27, 2009 9:15 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ Poteen:
    As a relative young’un, I’ve recently purchased ‘The Last Waltz’, and his one performance there was pretty good.

    Relatively young? Ya tryin to imply some of us are past our expiration dates???


  192. Bumr50
    194 | December 27, 2009 9:17 am

    @ doriangrey:

    No, no! Unless you’d like to date yourself!/

    I meant relatively young as in not having seen ‘The Last Waltz’ when it came out.


  193. 195 | December 27, 2009 9:19 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    No, no! Unless you’d like to date yourself!/
    I meant relatively young as in not having seen ‘The Last Waltz’ when it came out.

    taps foot…/…/…/ Keep digging son… /…/…/


  194. Bumr50
    196 | December 27, 2009 9:21 am

    @ doriangrey:

    You DO realize the irony of your annoyance given your nic, right?

    /


  195. 197 | December 27, 2009 9:24 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    You DO realize the irony of your annoyance given your nic, right?
    /

    Irony??… Looks around innocently, I see no Irony here…. ;P


  196. Buckeye Abroad
    198 | December 27, 2009 10:02 am

    #154 doriangrey

    I personally consider Jimi Hendrix’s “All along the Watchtower” to be one of the finest examples of artistic talent+studio engineering+production ever produced,

    One of my all time favs, right along “Hey Joe.” Even though, IIRC, Bob Dylan wrote “Watchtower” though. Good luck and hope you succeed!


  197. Mrs.Robinson
    199 | December 27, 2009 10:38 am

    @ Bumr50:
    Ahhh. Brings back memories! Griffith Park Observatory; Lazerium! (which I read is going to star up again after like 25 plus yrs!)
    I still have my Alan Parsons Project albums. Fell asleep to “Pyramid” every night when I was first on my own in a little apartment.

    And i could easily fall from grace
    Then another would take my place
    For a chance to behold your face…

    “The Eagle Will Rise Again” *sigh* :)


  198. 200 | December 27, 2009 10:46 am

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    #154 doriangrey
    I personally consider Jimi Hendrix’s “All along the Watchtower” to be one of the finest examples of artistic talent+studio engineering+production ever produced,
    One of my all time favs, right along “Hey Joe.” Even though, IIRC, Bob Dylan wrote “Watchtower” though. Good luck and hope you succeed!

    Yes it was a Bob Dylan song, what I was referring to is the exceptional quality of the talent captured in the recording. It is an amazing combination of musical talent, engineering talent and production talent that resulted in a truly amazing recording.

    That is what I am looking for, that amazing combination of talents coming into focus in the same place at the same time to produce something genuinely amazing.


  199. pbird
    201 | December 27, 2009 5:35 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Poteen wrote:
    @ doriangrey:

    Just my 2 cents you know, but I always thought Dylan was a great song writer but in his performances he sounds like a really stoned, really constipated guy trying to grunt his way to relief.

    Apologies for the Sunday morning graphics.//

    ROTFLMAO… Same here…

    You guys don’t get him…


  200. pbird
    202 | December 27, 2009 5:37 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Bumr50 wrote:
    @ doriangrey:

    He was performing with a Phil Lesh band incarnation, so it MAY have been just bad chemistry, but I was pretty ‘transcendent’ that day.

    It was pretty awful, still.

    Have ya heard the Christmas album?

    Robert Zimmerman struggles each and every performance to live up to the performances that made Bob Dylan a genuine living legend. The problem of course is, that those performances that make one a legend, are just that, legendary performances.
    Really great recordings are compilations of many small segments of legendary performance stitched together seamlessly to appear as if they are legendary performances. Sometimes when the artist is really lucky those recording sessions happen very quickly, usually they take a long time to cobble together. Some of the finest recording ever done took upwards of 2 and a half years of 8 to 10 hours a day six days a week to achieve.
    The producer/engineer I admire the most, Mutt Lange, is rumored/renowned to be a Stalinist asshole, whose production work typically take 2 years. In my personal opinion however their is and has never been a better producer. I would love to have him produce for me, knowing fully well in advance I would probably hate him every single second we worked together, sadly I will never be able to afford that.
    Bob Dylan has had some really great production/engineering talent and now has to live up to the performances they captured from him, that is no small task I guarantee you.

    As I mentioned before you just don’t get him. He didn’t even use much in the way of production.


  201. 203 | December 27, 2009 6:25 pm

    @ pbird:

    Oh for gods sake give it a fucking rest, I learned to play guitar playing Bob Dylan. I have a B.F.A in Music, was a professional musician as well as a studio musician. Believe me, I get him, most likely far better than you ever will, hell the only way you are going to understand Bob Dylan better than me is if you ARE Bob Dylan. Hell I probably understand, i.e. get him, better than he gets himself. So just stuff it…


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