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The Balkan Problem, Part 2b Who are the KLA?

by coldwarrior ( 162 Comments › )
Filed under Al Qaeda, Balkans, Hezballah, Iran, Islamists, Military, September 11 at December 31st, 2009 - 7:30 am

The Balkan Problem, Part 2b.
Who are the KLA?

Please see part 1, and part 2a

Time line for the Yugoslav Wars

“Ten years ago we were arming and equipping the worst elements of the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan – drug traffickers, arms smugglers, anti-American terrorists… Now we’re doing the same thing with the KLA, which is tied in with every known middle and far eastern drug cartel. Interpol, Europol, and nearly every European intelligence and counter-narcotics agency has files open on drug syndicates that lead right to the KLA, and right to Albanian gangs in this country.”

DEA agent and author Michael Levine
Quoted in the New American Magazine, May 24, 1999

[The] United States of America and the Kosovo Liberation Army stand for the same human values and principles … Fighting for the KLA is fighting for human rights and American values.”

Senator Jo. Lieberman, quoted in the ‘Washington Post’, 28 April 1999

“American intelligence agents have admitted they helped to train the Kosovo Liberation Army before NATO’s bombing of Yugoslavia”.

Tom Walker and Aiden Laverty, ‘CIA Aided Kosovo Guerrilla Army’, Sunday Times, 12 March 2000

In this part we will continue to explore the question of Did the US and NATO pick the wrong side in the Yugoslavian Wars, from part 2a? The last installment set up the large geopolitical framework to begin to answer the above question and attempted to bring forth reasons why the West got involved in what could have been seen as yet another Balkan fist fight. The main players in the Kosovo war were the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) and the Serbs. We have explored the Serbs in part 1, now we shall explore the KLA.

kla 1

The caterwauling Western press gets the whole Kosovo/Serbia story wrong, just like in parts 1 and 2. They would have you believe the the Muslims and the KLA were oh so pure and being murdered in droves by the evil Serbs. The networks carried the same stories over and over again, the Clinton machine had the press in their pocket. The independent press lied to the American public yet again, they carried water for radical Muslims.

The Kosovo War ends after the US lead Nato bombing campaign cripples Serbia. President Clinton claimed it was to prevent genocide and ethnic cleansing. The Clinton Administration persuaded NATO, Germany and the UK to follow its lead in Yugoslavia. The West, pushed by Clinton sided with Expansionist Islamist over Christian Orthodox Serbs for political and Clinton Doctrine-place-in-history reasons. The West chose to support the KLA which was backed by the Muslim Ummah because the West did not want to deal with the possibility of Albanian Muslim refugees on their borders, and was naïve of the Islamic threat, especially the Americans do not realize that Islam had already declared war on them in the 1990’s. We did not realize this because we had set up radical Muslim networks to fight the Soviets. This is most evident in Afghanistan in the 1980′s. This support for the KLA is simply a continuation of established networks. The networks don’t necessarily fight the Soviets in the 1990′s, they are brought into the fight for the reasons stated above.

So who was it that we were supporting? Who are the KLA? The KLA, or the Ushtria Clirimtare E Kosoves (UCK), first appeared in Macedonia in 1992. Many members of KLA units are professionally trained, and include former Yugoslav army soldiers. The group functions very professionally underground, due in part to fact that some of its leaders are former members of UDBA [Internal State Security Service. Some are Muslims of mostly Albanian descent that were trained under the unified, pre-war Yugoslavian military, intelligence, and police services. Some come from the the Albanian Communist Party under Enver Hoxa and tend toward Maoism.

The funding for the KLA came maily from two sources, first the Saudi Arabians, who tend to be Sunni as are the KLA, and from the Iranianians who are Shiite. The Iranians were looking for a foothold in Europe, they found it in the KLA. Iran and Saudi Arabia which supports many of the existing Islamic militant charities see the struggle in Kosovo as pitting Islam against Christianity and as an oppurtunity to get Islam further into Europe.  The Shiites and Sunnis disagree on many things, but they do agree on fighting the common enemy which is Chritianity.

An interesting titbit I ran across in researching this makes some sense given the Russian support of Iran with arms and such: Curiously, there are reports that Iran is part of a secret alliance including Yugoslavia, Russia, and Iraq. The Paris-based Arabic newspaper "al-Watan al-Arabi" reported on 23 April, 1999 that a delegation of Iranian intelligence officers paid "an important secret visit" to Moscow to discuss details of the alliance. The Iranians requested the most-up-to-date Russian arms, in exchange for which they pledged that the Bosnia experience would not be repeated. Iran promised to "not escalate its solidarity with the Muslims of Kosova to the extent of sending units of the Republican Guards or Hizballah units or military equipment to help the Kosova Liberation Army. The Iranians pledged not to arouse Islamic sentiments and not to rally and finance extremist movements, as happened in Bosnia, for jihad [holy war] in Kosova.”

Our old friend Osama bin Laden had already set up networks in Albania to help supply personnel and money to the KLA, bin Laden had already had his organization bomb the USS Cole, the US embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, the US was not paying attention to him or to Islam as a threat, yet. They would, on September 11, 2001. From Chris Deliso: 4 May 1999, the Washington Times reported, citing new reports from US intelligence and Jane’s Defense Review, that the town of Tropoje, Albania was a”common staging area” for Bin Laden’s and the KLA’s forces, and thus “a center for Islamic terrorists.” US intelligence also acknowledged that Bin Ladin’s al-Qaeda had “both trained and financially supported” the Albanians, and that the Kosovo border had been infiltrated by Bosnian, Chechen and Afghan mujaheedin, in “…crossings (which) originated in neighboring Albania and, according to the reports, included parties of up to 50 men.”

The report added that “…documents found last year on the body of a KLA member showed that he had escorted several volunteers into Kosovo, including more than a dozen Saudi Arabians. Each volunteer carried a passport identifying him as a Macedonian Albanian.” 1

KLA goal

So this puts the US and Osama in Albania at the same time as late as 1999. So, Clinton sends in the bombs, the Serbs go to the table and peace breaks out. Osama bin Laden’s network continued to operate in Kosovo and Albania, and he continues to attack the US. But what of the KLA? Those defenders of human rights that Joe Liberman called them? Wrong again Joe, they were war criminals before and after our involvement, Joe!

The KLA now run narcotics ,traffic sex slaves into Europe, and conduct the standard organized crime activities. They are now the Muslim mafia…The US chose to support these guys, radical expansionist Islamic terrorists. Bin Laden and the rest of the terror world viewed the West, especially the US as weak after this episode. He kept hitting our overseas assets and we kept funding his allies. In order to get our attention and focus the fight, we got September 11, 2001.

1I have a login for Jane’s Defense Review, this information is factual. I liked the way the writer put it together so I quote him but fact check as well.

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162 Responses to “The Balkan Problem, Part 2b Who are the KLA?”
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  1. 1 | December 31, 2009 7:40 am

    The KLA are the Enemy. What more do I need to know?


  2. 2 | December 31, 2009 7:41 am

    Guys and Dolls, that is how you do a “FIRST”!


  3. 3 | December 31, 2009 7:44 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Yet many Conservatives supported them. Bush and McCain admired these loons.


  4. 4 | December 31, 2009 7:48 am

    Newt knocks it out of the park. This sums it up nicely:

    America is long overdue for a serious global strategy that includes targeting threats such as the terrorist killer at Fort Hood, the individuals recently arrested in Detroit, Denver and New York, and the five Americans detained in Pakistan.

    The scale, persistence and sophistication of the enemy requires an honesty, a clarity, and a scale appropriate to the response.

    Once again, instead of targeting the source of the threats, our politically correct government decides to make life more miserable for the travelling public by imposing hopelessly meaningless rules such as not allowing passengers to leave their seats in the last hour of the flight. Bound by cultural sensitivities, the default reaction of the bureaucracy is to review the procedures and wring its hands ineffectively.

    Today, because our elites fear politically incorrect honesty, they believe that it is better to harass the innocent, delay the harmless, and risk the lives of every American than to do the obvious, the effective, and the necessary.

    As they say, read the whole thing. I’m not a big Gingrich fan, but this is spot on. It is time to do what is necessary. What is necessary is needful, no matter how unpleasant it may be to some.


  5. vagabond trader
    5 | December 31, 2009 7:50 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    OT: You’ll like this IF

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/12/more_guns_less_crime_in_09.html


  6. 6 | December 31, 2009 7:50 am

    @ Rodan:

    Clinton (and the Democrats) went to war for them. Obama refuses to go to war and strive for victory for America, but the Democrats (and Clinton) went to war and won for the KLA.

    Priorities. It is all a matter of priorities.


  7. 7 | December 31, 2009 7:53 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Correct the Democrats launched the war, but many Republicans supported this war. The GOP had Congress and could of cut off the funding. McCain and then Gov. Bush were big cheerleaders of the bombing of Serbia. Bush in 2008 recognized Kossovo as an independent state. My point is that the elites of BOTH parties are Pro-Islamic. This needs to change as Islamo-Imperialists are out to destroy us.


  8. yah
    8 | December 31, 2009 7:54 am

    Doesn’t sound like the Christian Orthodox Serbs had a chance with the Russians, Muslims, and the West against them.


  9. 9 | December 31, 2009 7:55 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    Yep. At “best” (for the gun controllers), more guns means no more crime. In which case, at best gun control can’t effect crime one way or another. In which case, the gun controllers want to restrict liberty for the sake of restricting liberty. They can no longer hide behinde wanting to reduce crime. Increasing the supply of guns doesn’t increase crime. Period, full stop.

    Gun control is at best useless. I could argue it is detrimental in many ways, but if it is useless at best why would any sane person want to waste time and resources trying to implement it?

    (The answer is obvious: crime has nothing to do with why they want gun control)


  10. 10 | December 31, 2009 7:56 am

    Gotta run. Meeting.

    :roll:


  11. Bumr50
    11 | December 31, 2009 7:57 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Maybe it’s a surprise New Years party!


  12. yah
    12 | December 31, 2009 8:02 am

    The libs don’t like guns because it gives people who own them some control of their own safety. And the libs do not want individuals to have control of anything. EVERYTHING needs to be controlled by the government, even down to the food we eat.
    It is just so much easier to control people when they are completely helpless, dependent, and powerless.


  13. taxfreekiller
    13 | December 31, 2009 8:02 am

    1.

    The two party dumb ass evil money cult of $/power whores in Washington D.C. get U.S. Fighting men killed. They almost got me.
    But the S. Koreans who were by chance assigned to our unit saved U.S..
    How? by not trusting the big boys, no one over Major was trusted, to much P.C. bull shit. Only after one of them proved themselves would they trust even a little bit.

    Not one Arvn allowed on our missions until proved up, not one civilian allowed in our area at Da Nang, no laundry person, not one clean up person.

    Still yet at this time in Afganistain in walks a officer in the Afgan Army with a bomb vest on,,,, he should have never been trusted like that,but the f’n leadership in D.C. who do not have to put their sorry ass’s on the line, demand we trust people who want to kill U.S. at any moment possible.

    Vote them out for good.

    Keep in mind John F. Kerry leader of the Democrat Party is a known proved up traitor, he will do so once more with the mullas in Iran and or the terror groups with Pres. Obama’s blessings.

    When you show your ass to be this dumb, to allow no good liars like John F. Kerry to get into positions of leadership, you in fact have no excuse, you just asking to make it possible for his shit to get you shot in the back by some commie or terrorist.

    IMHO


  14. vagabond trader
    14 | December 31, 2009 8:03 am

    More dhimmitude for the muzz. You have to wonder how much baksheesh the crooked pols in Europe and here receive from these eeeevil activities. Plenty is my wild guess.


  15. vagabond trader
    15 | December 31, 2009 8:05 am

    @ yah:

    Drives them nuts and I love it!

    A former friend, libral of course, would not bring her kid to my house because she thought we had guns. How warped is that?


  16. MikeA
    17 | December 31, 2009 8:07 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    A neighbor (who is so liberal its amazing) wouldn’t let her kids have toy guns or play war… I talked to the son one day, he played it anyway and grew up to be somewhat conservative.


  17. Bumr50
    18 | December 31, 2009 8:08 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    It’s an attitude reinforced over and over again by her liberal friends.

    Like saying such and such has “cooties” in grade school.


  18. 19 | December 31, 2009 8:08 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    You are almost certainly correct. I’d love a hard look at how much muzz money goes into the coffers of both parties. I suspect that the Donks get the lion’s share, but I doubt that the Republicans are pure as the driven snow.

    (Meeting is on hold. If I disappear, I’ll be in the meeting :-) )


  19. snowcrash
    20 | December 31, 2009 8:09 am

    OT http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2009/12/us_releases_dangerou.php
    Whatever happened to not negotiating with terrorists?
    Have we lost our freakin minds? JWF has a good summary too.

    http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2009/12/petraeus-iran-involved-in-kidnapping-of.html


  20. 21 | December 31, 2009 8:10 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    You nailed it. I would say with the Donks, it’s not just elites but rank and file also. With the GOP it’s just the elite but the rank and file know what’s up.


  21. 22 | December 31, 2009 8:10 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    You should introduce her to me. I don’t have guns, mind you. I am a knife fighter. I also like tomahawks, which makes me an axe murderer as well.

    Then again, I have a thing for chainsaws…

    (Your friend would shit herself if you introduced us. It’d be funny)


  22. kansas
    23 | December 31, 2009 8:11 am

    OT
    Someone let me know when upchuck decries all the left wing nastiness about Rush Limbaugh.


  23. yah
    24 | December 31, 2009 8:13 am

    @ vagabond trader:
    A former friend, libral of course, would not bring her kid to my house because she thought we had guns. How warped is that?
    You friend just does not think it all they way through. If she realized the only reason she feels safe from a home invasion is because criminals are not sure what households do or do not have a gun.
    She just thought you had guns, and was afraid. Proves my point.


  24. 25 | December 31, 2009 8:13 am

    @ kansas:

    Don’t hold your breath!


  25. Speranza
    26 | December 31, 2009 8:14 am

    Ever hear of this website?

    237 Charles12/29/2009 10:15:11 pm PST

    By the way, I’m going to be starting to write for True/Slant, in addition to LGF. I’ll be posting many of the same articles over there, but I’ll also be writing pieces just for them.

    LGF will remain my prime focus, but I’m looking forward to expanding the old horizons a bit.


  26. kansas
    27 | December 31, 2009 8:15 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ kansas:
    Don’t hold your breath!

    Good advice.


  27. 28 | December 31, 2009 8:15 am

    @ MikeA:

    Yep. OTOH, the Mohammedans have play suicide vests. Witness all of the LGF threads on Palestinian child abuse. LGF is still (or was) the best source for documentation on that shit. Charles may have hidden it, but LGF has plenty on it. Lots of funny shit there. Heh™


  28. Speranza
    29 | December 31, 2009 8:15 am

    Not to pick on her but I cringe whenever she refers to “Lars” as “Sweetie”

    321 irish rose Thu, Dec 31, 2009 7:55:01am replyquote

    Whatcha all doing for New Years’ Eve?

    Sweetie and I are going to a big rowdy party tonight that will probably turn into an all-nighter. After that, we’re going to crash for the rest of the weekend and do absolutely nothing.

    The holidays have been great this year, but we’re both ready for some serious downtime.


  29. 30 | December 31, 2009 8:16 am

    @ Speranza:

    Just looked at it. It’s very Progressive and even Crypto Fascist.


  30. kansas
    31 | December 31, 2009 8:16 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Ever hear of this website?
    237 Charles12/29/2009 10:15:11 pm PST
    By the way, I’m going to be starting to write for True/Slant, in addition to LGF. I’ll be posting many of the same articles over there, but I’ll also be writing pieces just for them.
    LGF will remain my prime focus, but I’m looking forward to expanding the old horizons a bit.

    If they have editors he is so screwed.


  31. vagabond trader
    32 | December 31, 2009 8:18 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    (Your friend would shit herself if you introduced us. It’d be funny)

    Yes, you would put a crimp in her undies. Funny thing IF, helped her with extensive research into her family roots all the way back to the Middle Ages. The men were warriors of the first order.The Crusades,Bannockburn,the Hundred Years War,Wars of the Roses, the Revolution etc.Not one pacifist. Go figure.


  32. snowcrash
    33 | December 31, 2009 8:18 am

    @ Speranza:
    They have a list with contributing authors and number of views each one gets. I will never, EVER visit that site and give CJ any page views that might be construed as a vote of popularity. I hope others feel the same.


  33. 34 | December 31, 2009 8:19 am

    @ kansas:

    They ar called “True”/Slant. Assuming that that isn’t a RAAAAAAAAACIST term for Asians, I assume that means that they bias their reporting, so CJ should feel right at home.

    There I go giving him the benifit of the doubt on something that is obviously “racism”. That’s me, caring and tolerant.


  34. yah
    35 | December 31, 2009 8:20 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Ever hear of this website?
    237 Charles12/29/2009 10:15:11 pm PST
    By the way, I’m going to be starting to write for True/Slant, in addition to LGF. I’ll be posting many of the same articles over there, but I’ll also be writing pieces just for them.
    LGF will remain my prime focus, but I’m looking forward to expanding the old horizons a bit.

    The site has had 578 comments on 136 posts in the last 48 hours.
    That’s like 4 comments per post. I would not be bragging about being a writer for it.


  35. vagabond trader
    36 | December 31, 2009 8:20 am

    @ Speranza:

    Mike Taibbi, lefturd, is one of the “journos.” Slant, how apprpriate.


  36. Bumr50
    37 | December 31, 2009 8:21 am

    @ yah:

    I’m sure that once what’s left of LGF gets over there, they’ll politely ask Charles to leave.


  37. snowcrash
    38 | December 31, 2009 8:22 am

    @ vagabond trader:
    At least they don’t try to hide it. WYSIWYG.


  38. Speranza
    39 | December 31, 2009 8:22 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Just looked at it. It’s very Progressive and even Crypto Fascist.

    As our Carolina Girl wrote to me “He can’t write for shit!”


  39. waldensianspirit
    40 | December 31, 2009 8:22 am

    @ Speranza:
    What a gem:

    I’m going to be starting to write — Charles Nodickens

    Obviously you haven’t started yet. Maybe tomorrow you won’t give editors ulcers.

    All your alphanumerics are belong to us.


  40. vagabond trader
    41 | December 31, 2009 8:23 am

    @ Bumr50:

    LOL!There goes the neighborhood!


  41. waldensianspirit
    42 | December 31, 2009 8:24 am

    @ kansas:
    Blatant double dipping too.


  42. Speranza
    43 | December 31, 2009 8:24 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Mike Taibbi, lefturd, is one of the “journos.” Slant, how apprpriate.

    Mike Taibi is a vicious Stalinist. I remember him from this “Village Voice” days when I lived in the NY metro area back in the early part of this decade.


  43. kansas
    44 | December 31, 2009 8:25 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ kansas:
    They ar called “True”/Slant. Assuming that that isn’t a RAAAAAAAAACIST term for Asians, I assume that means that they bias their reporting, so CJ should feel right at home.
    There I go giving him the benifit of the doubt on something that is obviously “racism”. That’s me, caring and tolerant.

    http://trueslant.com/allisonkilkenny/2009/12/31/resolution-for-2010-call-dick-cheney-a-lying-liar/
    I just read this which is a ton of shit. I read Robinson this morning who said Obama did not deny a “war on terror” and then proceeds to quote him by not using the term terror, which Obamamama will not use.
    Obviously anyone who is a full fledged left wing wacko can submit lunatic leftwing bullshit to this site. Perfect for the upchuckster. More power to him.


  44. vapig
    45 | December 31, 2009 8:26 am

    Good morning and Happy New Years Eve, Netizens!


  45. yah
    46 | December 31, 2009 8:26 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ yah:
    I’m sure that once what’s left of LGF gets over there, they’ll politely ask Charles to leave.

    Might be better for Charles and LGF if cj left LGF – everybody else than can think has.


  46. RIX
    47 | December 31, 2009 8:27 am

    I do recall Johnson threatening to ban anyone who posted anything positive about the Serbs.
    At the time I remember thinking that whatever the situation at least Milosovich believed in something.
    To me it seemed counter-intuitive to side against the Christians.


  47. Bumr50
    48 | December 31, 2009 8:30 am

    . The Iranians pledged not to arouse Islamic sentiments and not to rally and finance extremist movements, as happened in Bosnia, for jihad [holy war] in Kosova.”

    And ANYONE believed this?


  48. kansas
    49 | December 31, 2009 8:30 am

    In this part we will continue to explore the question of Did the US and NATO pick the wrong side in the Yugoslavian Wars,

    Uh, yeah. From now on the wrong side consists of anything Muslim.


  49. vagabond trader
    50 | December 31, 2009 8:31 am

    @ vapig:

    Happy New Year {Vapig} in case I don’t “see” you.


  50. Speranza
    51 | December 31, 2009 8:31 am

    Charles will have his sycophants come over and give him page views. Sharmuta will click on his writings 1,000 times a day. I see CJ’s plans now – trash the Right and hope that the Left hires him.


  51. yah
    52 | December 31, 2009 8:31 am

    @ RIX:
    But of course, Cj would naturally side against the Christians.


  52. kansas
    53 | December 31, 2009 8:33 am

    @ RIX:
    Sorry to admit back then I wasn’t paying attention to the actual facts. Not that it would have done any good.


  53. vagabond trader
    54 | December 31, 2009 8:33 am

    @ snowcrash:

    Visit where? ;-)


  54. 55 | December 31, 2009 8:33 am

    @ RIX:

    That’s when I realized Charles was fake. I was destroying Medaura’s lies and he banned me. Medaura will never dare debate me.


  55. RIX
    56 | December 31, 2009 8:34 am

    @ yah:
    He did.


  56. vagabond trader
    57 | December 31, 2009 8:34 am

    @ Speranza:

    Her and the Swede getting down…time.
    Blecccch!


  57. RIX
    58 | December 31, 2009 8:36 am

    kansas wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Sorry to admit back then I wasn’t paying attention to the actual facts. Not that it would have done any good.

    Yeah, I can’t say that I was either, but bombing Christians to support Muslims just seemed very wrong.


  58. vapig
    59 | December 31, 2009 8:36 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    Happy New Year to you too, VT!! {{{BIG hugs}}}


  59. mawskrat
    60 | December 31, 2009 8:38 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Her and the Swede getting down…time.
    Blecccch!

    well at least the Swede can put his lap top on her back and post
    whilst doing the nasty


  60. coldwarrior
    61 | December 31, 2009 8:38 am

    RIX wrote:

    kansas wrote:
    @ RIX:
    Sorry to admit back then I wasn’t paying attention to the actual facts. Not that it would have done any good.
    Yeah, I can’t say that I was either, but bombing Christians to support Muslims and assure the clinton doctrine a place in history just seemed very wrong.

    fify


  61. RIX
    62 | December 31, 2009 8:38 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:
    That’s when I realized Charles was fake. I was destroying Medaura’s lies and he banned me. Medaura will never dare debate me.

    Cj has very totalitarian tendencies. Thank God he has no authority & no influence outside of a circle of very deluded individuals.


  62. coldwarrior
    63 | December 31, 2009 8:40 am

    RIX wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ RIX:
    That’s when I realized Charles was fake. I was destroying Medaura’s lies and he banned me. Medaura will never dare debate me.
    Cj has very totalitarian tendencies. Thank God he has no authority & no influence outside of a circle of very deluded individuals.

    it is an open forum here…i would invite any 1.0er to come on over and debate the balkans with me or rodan…it would be a stomping of the first order.


  63. RIX
    64 | December 31, 2009 8:40 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Yeah, I do thionk that Clinton was trying to divert attention from his other problems, but he picked the wrong side.


  64. Speranza
    65 | December 31, 2009 8:40 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Her and the Swede getting down…time.
    Blecccch!

    He will be deflated by midnight.


  65. mawskrat
    66 | December 31, 2009 8:41 am

    recieved this from my pension system today……………………..
    ………………………………………………………….
    2010 Benefit Payment Schedule

    Go green! Help save money and paper!
    Duration: 0:16

    OPERS — Retirees can expect their first benefit
    payment in 2010 to be deposited on Monday, Jan. 4, 2010. In 2008, we began distributing the Jan. 1 benefit payment on the first business day of the new year for tax accounting purposes. This policy only affects the first payment of each year.All other payments throughout the year will be issued on the first business day of the month. If that day falls on a weekend or holiday, payments will be issued on the last business day of the previous month.
    …………………………………………………………..

    is that for thier tax accounting or mine?


  66. waldensianspirit
    67 | December 31, 2009 8:42 am

    Is it true that Clinton promised the KLA US involvement if there were ~5000 people massacred? What has been proven/disproven on this?


  67. coldwarrior
    68 | December 31, 2009 8:43 am

    RIX wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Yeah, I do thionk that Clinton was trying to divert attention from his other problems, but he picked the wrong side.

    clinton needed to get the lewinski matter put away and look more presidential…he started on the kosovo thing on his saturday after the senate impeachment vote. his administration was going to be remembereed fro nothing but blow jobs…so trot out the clinton doctrine to stop genocide whenever possible, unless its rwanda or another small country. i guess if you are black, the clinton doctrine isnt about you.

    he had to try to salvage his presidential legacy…fail


  68. Mike
    69 | December 31, 2009 8:44 am

    Happy New Year Everyone.

    Now I think I’ll mosey on over to True/Slant and register. Then when
    CJ post some of his infinite wisdom I can leave him a compliment.


  69. coldwarrior
    70 | December 31, 2009 8:44 am

    @ waldensianspirit:

    i dont know about that.


  70. Speranza
    71 | December 31, 2009 8:45 am

    mawskrat wrote:

    well at least the Swede can put his lap top on her back and post whilst doing the nasty

    That is a scary image.


  71. waldensianspirit
    72 | December 31, 2009 8:47 am

    @ coldwarrior:
    You can find links like:
    http://de-construct.net/?p=7165
    around the internet.


  72. RIX
    73 | December 31, 2009 8:47 am

    @ coldwarrior:
    clinton needed to get the lewinski matter put away and look more presidential…

    That is a really good summary of the timing abd motivation.
    I recall a bunch of Serb teenagers standing on a bridge to dissuade NATO from bombing it. I recall thinking these are Christians, what the hell are we doing?


  73. Carolina Girl
    74 | December 31, 2009 8:48 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Ever hear of this website?
    237 Charles12/29/2009 10:15:11 pm PST
    By the way, I’m going to be starting to write for True/Slant, in addition to LGF. I’ll be posting many of the same articles over there, but I’ll also be writing pieces just for them.
    LGF will remain my prime focus, but I’m looking forward to expanding the old horizons a bit.

    I see Chaz is still clinging to the myth that cutting and pasting constitutes “writing.”

    Mike wrote:

    Happy New Year Everyone.
    Now I think I’ll mosey on over to True/Slant and register. Then when
    CJ post some of his infinite wisdom I can leave him a compliment.

    I think we should ALL sign up now, under nom de guerres. Then when Chaz makes his first entry we all go “where did you FIND this ignorant inept clown??


  74. vagabond trader
    75 | December 31, 2009 8:50 am

    @ Speranza:

    Not. touching. that.


  75. Speranza
    76 | December 31, 2009 8:50 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    I think we should ALL sign up now, under nom de guerres. Then when Chaz makes his first entry we all go “where did you FIND this ignorant inept clown??

    Great idea! Spread the word to the Freepers too since I know they love him as does the R.S. McCain people.


  76. 77 | December 31, 2009 8:50 am

    Good morning and Happy New Years everyone…


  77. yah
    78 | December 31, 2009 8:51 am

    Mike wrote:

    Happy New Year Everyone.
    Now I think I’ll mosey on over to True/Slant and register. Then when
    CJ post some of his infinite wisdom I can leave him a compliment.

    Why don’t you leave comments with their other contributors that that cj banned most of his own members and the rest left because he became such a bore.


  78. Carolina Girl
    79 | December 31, 2009 8:51 am

    @ Speranza:

    Yeah. Lars is real.
    I’m willing to bet that if a balloon accidentally pops at a party, Irank Rosh starts to scream “MY DATE!!!!!”


  79. coldwarrior
    80 | December 31, 2009 8:51 am

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    You can find links like:
    http://de-construct.net/?p=7165
    around the internet.

    oh yeah…the srebrenica massacre is going to get looked at after i get back from NJ.

    as i said in te earlier posts on the balkans, the press reports and the official investigation after actions are not meshing. something fishy went on there.


  80. 81 | December 31, 2009 8:53 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    I caught Medaura in at least 6 lies and was hammering her. Kilgore Trout tried to jump in and I smashed him as well. Then he called Charles on me and I was banned.


  81. vagabond trader
    82 | December 31, 2009 8:54 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    I am interested in this aspect.So much international press covered this there had to be partisanship as they are wont to present with their favored victims.


  82. goddessoftheclassroom
    83 | December 31, 2009 8:54 am

    @ doriangrey:
    {doriangrey}!


  83. vagabond trader
    84 | December 31, 2009 8:55 am

    @ yah:

    lol,and furiously attmepts mouth to mouth resuccitation.


  84. coldwarrior
    85 | December 31, 2009 8:55 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I caught Medaura in at least 6 lies and was hammering her. Kilgore Trout tried to jump in and I smashed him as well. Then he called Charles on me and I was banned.

    yet two more acts of cowardice in the swamp…calling the blog owner for protection (cry to mommy) and then the banning (protecting a sycophant)


  85. Carolina Girl
    86 | December 31, 2009 8:56 am

    @ goddessoftheclassroom:

    Goddess, one day I’m gonna steal adorable liddle kitty from you. Hims is SOOO cute.

    (sorry about the above babytalk – just trying to adopt Charles’ prose style.)


  86. 87 | December 31, 2009 8:57 am

    goddessoftheclassroom wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    {doriangrey}!

    Good morning beautiful… :)


  87. Carolina Girl
    88 | December 31, 2009 8:57 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ coldwarrior:
    I caught Medaura in at least 6 lies and was hammering her. Kilgore Trout tried to jump in and I smashed him as well. Then he called Charles on me and I was banned.
    yet two more acts of cowardice in the swamp…calling the blog owner for protection (cry to mommy) and then the banning (protecting a sycophant)

    How do those morons walk upright without a fucking spine? Buncha medical marvels over there.


  88. yah
    89 | December 31, 2009 8:58 am

    coldwarrior, I’m going to re-rent “Behind Enemy Lines.” Even though it is highly fictionalized, I think I’ll enjoy it more now that I know the politics of it all. The pilot, Chris Burnett even sued the producers over the inaccuracies. But it is good movie.


  89. coldwarrior
    90 | December 31, 2009 8:58 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I am interested in this aspect.So much international press covered this there had to be partisanship as they are wont to present with their favored victims.

    new favored victims and protection of clinton/blair.

    milosevic was easy to hate, he was the perfect bastard, he was no diffrent than the rest of the leaders i the balkans.

    the press prolly thought that americans could never understand the history because it was too complicated, so they conveniently ignored it.


  90. 91 | December 31, 2009 8:59 am

    @ doriangrey:

    Back at you and thanks for your support of this blog!


  91. vagabond trader
    92 | December 31, 2009 8:59 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    oops replied to wrong post:

    lol,and furiously attmepts mouth to mouth resuccitation.

    @ vagabond trader:


  92. coldwarrior
    93 | December 31, 2009 8:59 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Rodan wrote:
    @ coldwarrior:
    I caught Medaura in at least 6 lies and was hammering her. Kilgore Trout tried to jump in and I smashed him as well. Then he called Charles on me and I was banned.
    yet two more acts of cowardice in the swamp…calling the blog owner for protection (cry to mommy) and then the banning (protecting a sycophant)
    How do those morons walk upright without a fucking spine? Buncha medical marvels over there.

    exoskeletons, like bugs


  93. taxfreekiller
    94 | December 31, 2009 9:00 am

    Not even a blink of an eye by the commie msm and or Democrats when the NYT’s tells secrets that get people killed.

    but when the light gets shined on these commie bug’s

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/31/dhs-supoenas-journalists-published-leaked-airline-security-changes/


  94. buzzsawmonkey
    95 | December 31, 2009 9:00 am

    American Exceptionalism and Israeli Exceptionalism

    In the wake of the Thunderpants bomber, there has been increased talk of trying to get the TSA and Homeland Security to follow the Israeli/El Al model in screening airline passengers–trying to follow profiling by behavior rather than continuing to employ the highly inconvenient and largely useless procedures that we currently use.

    This, I think, will never happen, because we are unwilling to spend the money to hire people skilled and dedicated enough to follow the Israeli model; the screeners at US airports are clearly low-skill hires on the level of mall security guard, who go through the motions as time-servers with an occasional lapse into petty officiousness, rather than highly trained and dedicated professionals.
    The reason for this contrast is simple: Israel, during the worst outbreaks of terrorism, has experienced the proportional equivalent of a 9/11 every few months. Almost everyone in the country knows someone who has been a victim of terrorism or is related to a victim. Even the moonbats of Israel—and they are many—are aware of the need for security in the immediate term, even if they also hold to the belief that “peace” is possible with the enemy; thus, it is possible for someone to hold to peacenik views and still work with dedication towards the larger job of maintaining security.

    In America, we have largely been free of such ongoing lessons. The many thwarted terror plots do not affect the public consciousness the way they must in Israel, and the horrors of 9/11 have receded for many. Here, if one is a moonbat one does not accept the need for security measures, and in fact opposes them. Thus, one has a far smaller pool of trainable professionals from which to draw the skilled people who are needed to implement an Israeli-style screening system; even if the money were there, the people who would do the job are simply not interested, if not in fact opposed.

    Thus, Israel can implement its exceptional security system because its closeness to actual terror on a daily, ongoing basis makes it exceptional; even the peaceniks can participate in it with legitimate dedication. America’s good fortune in having been largely spared such close encounters makes it exceptional in the opposite way; its insulation from the reality of terror allows the very people who are needed to help protect its security to opt out of doing so, leaving this job in the hands of ill-educated and ill-trained incompetents.


  95. Buckeye Abroad
    96 | December 31, 2009 9:00 am

    I got to know a US Captain newly arrived in Germany, along with his wife, on a ski trip about 8 years ago who spent some time down in the former Yugoslavia. We met informally a couple of times and he said we (the US) sponsered and protected one of the biggest drug cartels in the world down there known as the KSA. Thats the first I ever heard of them. He was also disgusted with our position there and, in private, said the American people were being fooled about most of the issues regaring that region.

    Same as it ever was.

    OT: Happy New Year to you all and hope that we all, personally, see a better 2010. I am in full confidence and have complete faith we will.


  96. coldwarrior
    97 | December 31, 2009 9:01 am

    @ yah:

    i think my parents have that on dvd…i might borrow that one.


  97. Nevergiveup
    98 | December 31, 2009 9:01 am

    Good morning- ugh afternoon here on the east coast. Happy New Year. Well looks like my daughter may have killed her car, well at least the battery. I couldn’t jump it. Lets see if USAA has any better luck.


  98. Speranza
    99 | December 31, 2009 9:02 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    How do those morons walk upright without a fucking spine? Buncha medical marvels over there.

    I remember when I was a child, being taken to the celebrated Barnum’s Circus, which contained an exhibition of freaks and monstrosities, but the exhibit on the program which I most desired to see was the one described as “The Boneless Wonder”. My parents judged that the spectacle would be too demoralizing and revolting for my youthful eye and I have waited fifty years, to see The Boneless Wonder sitting on the Treasury Bench.
    Winston Churchill
    On Ramsay MacDonald

    I think that the boneless wonders can all be found at The Pony Tail Ranch.


  99. goddessoftheclassroom
    100 | December 31, 2009 9:04 am

    @ Carolina Girl:
    {carolinagirl}

    He’s just my avatar! My real kittehs are black and white.

    PS. I just added “kittehs” to my spell check dictionary…


  100. Carolina Girl
    101 | December 31, 2009 9:04 am

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Zero’s band of Merry Men will never do it – it would be tantamount to admitting that the JOOOS have the right idea.


  101. 102 | December 31, 2009 9:05 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Back at you and thanks for your support of this blog!

    Ah, but dont thank me my friend, it is you who I must thank. You and the other admins here have put an enormous amount of work into this place making it a cyber example of what representative democracy is supposed to be. I consider myself very fortunate that you have allowed me to be an active participant in this place.


  102. yah
    103 | December 31, 2009 9:05 am

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    I read somewhere that screeners at US airports get 3 hours of training.
    Sorry, no link.


  103. kansas
    104 | December 31, 2009 9:05 am

    RIX wrote:

    kansas wrote:
    @ RIX:
    Sorry to admit back then I wasn’t paying attention to the actual facts. Not that it would have done any good.
    Yeah, I can’t say that I was either, but bombing Christians to support Muslims just seemed very wrong.

    I didn’t even know that. Had my head up my wahoo.


  104. Nevergiveup
    105 | December 31, 2009 9:05 am

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    Happy New Year to you all and hope that we all, personally, see a better 2010. I am in full confidence and have complete faith we will.

    With Obama in the White House? Good Luck with that one!


  105. RIX
    106 | December 31, 2009 9:06 am

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    TSA is not really about security as we would understand it.
    It is a jobs program & it does not seem to require even a minmum
    of sophistication or motivation.


  106. Nevergiveup
    107 | December 31, 2009 9:08 am

    yah wrote:

    I read somewhere that screeners at US airports get 3 hours of training.
    Sorry, no link.

    That much ha? Ya’d never know it?


  107. RIX
    108 | December 31, 2009 9:09 am

    @ kansas:
    I didn’t even know that. Had my head up my wahoo

    I think that most of us became more aware of things after 9/11.
    I know that I did.


  108. waldensianspirit
    109 | December 31, 2009 9:10 am

    @ Buckeye Abroad:

    Unemployment is going through the roof in 2010.


  109. chickadee
    110 | December 31, 2009 9:10 am

    Walter E. Williams subbing for Rush says he is ‘resting comfortably. ‘ And will undergo tests today to see if he actually had a heart attack.


  110. coldwarrior
    111 | December 31, 2009 9:10 am

    this stuff just writes itself! where’s snork? he needs this one

    Snowstorm squelches climate change protest


  111. 112 | December 31, 2009 9:12 am

    @ RIX:

    It’s different with me. My Grandfather is a Spaniard and he taught me the evils of Islam and how they tried to exterminate Spanish. SO I was never a friend of Islam or had respect for that movement. My Grandmother was Dominican of Lebanese origins, so she really hated Islam.

    I am proud to say, I rooted for Serbia all the way!


  112. buzzsawmonkey
    113 | December 31, 2009 9:12 am

    One other note: because even Israel’s moonbats recognize the need for near-term security, and because Israel has compulsory national service, it is eminently possible for an Israeli to be politically wholly unrealistic yet have a record in national defense.

    This confounds Americans; in the US, if you are a moonbat you almost certainly do not serve in the armed forces. Thus, it is possible for American Jews to see that Rahm Emmanuel served in the IDF and take it for granted that he will be a “strong voice for Israel” in the Obama administration—forgetting that chief of staff is not the sort of position that has a large direct influence on the administration’s Israeli policy. Because Emmanuel has military experience—foreign to the US moonbat and to the American Jewish moonbat particularly—they graft their own, utterly different, American experience on him and see him as something he is not.


  113. Speranza
    114 | December 31, 2009 9:13 am

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Unemployment is going through the roof in 2010.

    God forbid!


  114. 115 | December 31, 2009 9:13 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    this stuff just writes itself! where’s snork? he needs this one
    Snowstorm squelches climate change protest

    No….no… say it isnt so…. ROTFLMAO……………….


  115. waldensianspirit
    116 | December 31, 2009 9:14 am

    @ chickadee:
    Was it 81 degrees when he was out golfing? He might have been pushing it pretending he was a young feller again.


  116. kansas
    117 | December 31, 2009 9:16 am

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ Buckeye Abroad:
    Unemployment is going through the roof in 2010.

    Think that we inherited this bullshit is gonna fly all year?


  117. Nevergiveup
    118 | December 31, 2009 9:16 am

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Did Rahm serve in the IDF or just volunteer with them one summer to do scut work?


  118. Buckeye Abroad
    119 | December 31, 2009 9:16 am

    #105 Nevergiveup

    With Obama in the White House? Good Luck with that one!

    Have faith. If you can’t then maybe you should change your nic ;)


  119. coldwarrior
    120 | December 31, 2009 9:16 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    this stuff just writes itself! where’s snork? he needs this one
    Snowstorm squelches climate change protest

    No….no… say it isnt so…. ROTFLMAO……………….

    it gets better:

    No Rise of Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide Fraction in Past 160 Years, New Research Finds


  120. coldwarrior
    121 | December 31, 2009 9:18 am

    kansas wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    @ Buckeye Abroad:
    Unemployment is going through the roof in 2010.
    Think that we inherited this bullshit is gonna fly all year?

    the bush tax cuts end tomorrow, inflation and high interest rates are commming up next.->higher ‘funemeployment’


  121. Nevergiveup
    122 | December 31, 2009 9:19 am

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    #105 Nevergiveup

    With Obama in the White House? Good Luck with that one!

    Have faith. If you can’t then maybe you should change your nic

    Oh I ain’t giving up but that doesn’t mean I can’t evaluate the Depth of Obama’s incompetence and commie ways accurately.


  122. taxfreekiller
    123 | December 31, 2009 9:19 am

    oops@ taxfreekiller:


  123. waldensianspirit
    124 | December 31, 2009 9:19 am

    @ kansas:
    With those who don’t need employment yes and this group strongly correlates with the numskull group that voted him in.


  124. chickadee
    125 | December 31, 2009 9:19 am

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ chickadee:
    Was it 81 degrees when he was out golfing? He might have been pushing it pretending he was a young feller again.

    I heard that he was in his hotel room, sitting in a chair, complaining of chest pains when EMS got there. Hopefully it wasn’t a heart attack. I’m getting tired of the phrase, “Resting comfortably.”
    I want to hear that he is doing fine.


  125. kansas
    126 | December 31, 2009 9:19 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    coldwarrior wrote:
    this stuff just writes itself! where’s snork? he needs this one
    Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
    No….no… say it isnt so…. ROTFLMAO……………….
    it gets better:
    No Rise of Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide Fraction in Past 160 Years, New Research Finds

    Denier, denier, denier. The science is settled, so stop posting heresy.


  126. buzzsawmonkey
    127 | December 31, 2009 9:20 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Did Rahm serve in the IDF or just volunteer with them one summer to do scut work?

    Good point. I’d always heard that he had served in the IDF, but his Wiki bio says that

    While still an undergraduate, he joined the congressional campaign of David Robinson of Chicago.[14] In the first Gulf War, Emanuel served with the Israel Defense Forces as a civilian volunteer helping to maintain equipment.

    In other words, he was the manager of the fencing team who loses the foils on the way to the match.


  127. 128 | December 31, 2009 9:21 am

    @ Rodan:

    It is my personal opinion, that any conflict involving Islam requires very careful examination. Those who practice Islam always claim that they are the innocently aggrieved party in any and all conflicts.

    The only reason I dont side instantly with anyone fighting Muslims is, because the only people Muslims love to kill more than Christians and Jews are Muslims of differing sects.


  128. taxfreekiller
    129 | December 31, 2009 9:22 am

    just google

    Steve Frischling and or Chris Elliott

    writes a travel blog @ taxfreekiller:


  129. RIX
    130 | December 31, 2009 9:24 am

    @ Rodan:
    I am proud to say, I rooted for Serbia all the way!

    Your family experiences gave you a good perspective.
    I was pulling for the Srebs, because Islam had already
    done some attscks on us, the World Trade Center Garage for openers.
    It was after 9/11 that I did some research on Islam & have to say that I was shocked.
    I didn’t know just how vile it is.


  130. 131 | December 31, 2009 9:24 am

    kansas wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    @ Buckeye Abroad:
    Unemployment is going through the roof in 2010.
    Think that we inherited this bullshit is gonna fly all year?

    Nope, but it wont stop that Marxist crybaby from trying to blame everyone else for his failures for the entire rest of his term.


  131. bar
    132 | December 31, 2009 9:24 am

    @ Speranza:
    This will be the look on Irish Rose’s cats face tonight!
    funny pictures of cats with captions
    see more Lolcats and funny pictures


  132. Nevergiveup
    133 | December 31, 2009 9:24 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Did Rahm serve in the IDF or just volunteer with them one summer to do scut work?

    Good point. I’d always heard that he had served in the IDF, but his Wiki bio says that

    While still an undergraduate, he joined the congressional campaign of David Robinson of Chicago.[14] In the first Gulf War, Emanuel served with the Israel Defense Forces as a civilian volunteer helping to maintain equipment.

    In other words, he was the manager of the fencing team who loses the foils on the way to the match.

    I kinda knew he never served with the IDF, but i was fuzzy on that. Hey it’s comendable that he help as he did but let’s not make him out to be some big war hero. His father was in the Irgun, but it seems the family genes have been fading.


  133. Buckeye Abroad
    134 | December 31, 2009 9:25 am

    #109 waldensianspirit

    Unemployment is going through the roof in 2010.

    Yes, I know. I am even joining those ranks shortly, but I know why. I am by know means a Victor D. Hanson, but I know the solutions.


  134. buzzsawmonkey
    135 | December 31, 2009 9:28 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    I kinda knew he never served with the IDF, but i was fuzzy on that. Hey it’s comendable that he help as he did but let’s not make him out to be some big war hero. His father was in the Irgun, but it seems the family genes have been fading.

    His “IDF service” was much-touted by moonbat Jews as proof positive that he would be a strong voice for Israel in the administration.


  135. Speranza
    136 | December 31, 2009 9:29 am

    @ bar:
    Carolina Girl wrote “When she hears a balloon accidentally pop at a party, she screams out “MY DATE!!!”"


  136. Nevergiveup
    137 | December 31, 2009 9:30 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    I kinda knew he never served with the IDF, but i was fuzzy on that. Hey it’s comendable that he help as he did but let’s not make him out to be some big war hero. His father was in the Irgun, but it seems the family genes have been fading.

    His “IDF service” was much-touted by moonbat Jews as proof positive that he would be a strong voice for Israel in the administration.

    His “IDF Service” is what a lot of bored American Jewish college kids often did/do on summer break


  137. bar
    138 | December 31, 2009 9:31 am

    @ Speranza:
    :lol:
    ROTFLMAO!


  138. 139 | December 31, 2009 9:33 am

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    #109 waldensianspirit
    Unemployment is going through the roof in 2010.
    Yes, I know. I am even joining those ranks shortly, but I know why. I am by know means a Victor D. Hanson, but I know the solutions.

    The Peoples Socialist Republic of Kalifornia has come up with a novel and unique method for decreasing unemployment. They are significantly delaying the application process of new unemployment claims and denying a significant number of those new claims. Marxist logic at it finest, fewer unemployment claims means less unemployment right????


  139. Nevergiveup
    140 | December 31, 2009 9:34 am

    Haniyeh: Jerusalem will remain Islamic
    Hundreds of Israeli Arabs, left-wing activists from Israel and abroad gather at Erez crossing for rally against siege on Gaza. Hamas prime minister uses Israeli MK’s phone to convey message to protestors: ‘We’ll meet at al-Aqsa Mosque’

    Wanna bet on that ass hole


  140. coldwarrior
    141 | December 31, 2009 9:36 am

    @ doriangrey:

    there will be violence over that.


  141. Buckeye Abroad
    142 | December 31, 2009 9:40 am

    #139 doriangrey

    My dear sir, I live in the socialist enclave of Europe which makes California look like a child in a fake-Fidel beard. Think of tax funded, 6 month long training courses in things such as “acting” for the unemployed people >50 and < 25 to get them off the unemyployment statistics. They still get paid to show up, but they are off the official register. Problem solved. Europe is so f*cked, but so it Cali.


  142. RIX
    143 | December 31, 2009 9:43 am

    Later, enjoy your day.


  143. Buckeye Abroad
    144 | December 31, 2009 9:46 am

    #122 Nevergiveup

    Oh I ain’t giving up but that doesn’t mean I can’t evaluate the Depth of Obama’s incompetence and commie ways accurately.

    I agree, his incompentence has no bottom and the more aggressive he becomes the more ineffectual those in his administration will be. He is a loser with limited shelf life and EVERYONE in the world knows it. Ultimate personal humiliation to come, no matter how its going to spun by the democratic propaganda organs. He is a laughing stock and it will be undeniable world wide by the end of 2010.


  144. 145 | December 31, 2009 9:46 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    there will be violence over that.

    The Peoples Socialist Republic of Kalifornia is betting that the economy will get better soon, betting that the Federal government will cough up an additional 8 billion dollars in federal taxes to cover these delayed claims, betting that they can increase taxes on the citizens slaves of Kalifornia.

    Kalifornia’s State Assembly is full of Marxist criminals and other assorted con-men and corrupt state officials. They refuse to take honest straight forward actions to reduce the States budget deficit. They will do exactly the same thing Obama is and has been doing, find others to blame for their malfeasance.

    Most likely Kalifornia is doomed to many many years of horrible suffering because of these peoples corruption and criminal intentions.


  145. Buckeye Abroad
    146 | December 31, 2009 9:50 am

    #141 coldwarrior

    there will be violence over that.

    Indeed. The liberal bastions will be the hotbeds of violence for years to come when their policies go full boom bloom.


  146. mjazz
    147 | December 31, 2009 9:52 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    meaningless rules such as not allowing passengers to leave their seats in the last hour of the flight.

    How is that going to stop someone from detonating an explosive?


  147. kansas
    148 | December 31, 2009 9:54 am

    Let me know when the Lizard cuts and pastes on True Slant. I signed up. Read some vomit by Allison somebody saying how awesome Eugene Robinson was for calling Dick Cheney a liar. What a putrid place.


  148. 149 | December 31, 2009 9:55 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    there will be violence over that.

    Oh, and in a odd side note…. A couple days ago the sea lion population of San Fransicko up and moved… They were a very famous tourist attraction and apparently even they could no longer stomach San Fransicko… ROTFLMAO…..


  149. 150 | December 31, 2009 9:57 am

    mjazz wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    meaningless rules such as not allowing passengers to leave their seats in the last hour of the flight.
    How is that going to stop someone from detonating an explosive?

    It wont, like all Marxist/Liberal solutions it does nothing to address the problem but make the Marxist/Liberals feel good inside that they are doing something.


  150. coldwarrior
    151 | December 31, 2009 10:01 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    there will be violence over that.

    Oh, and in a odd side note…. A couple days ago the sea lion population of San Fransicko up and moved… They were a very famous tourist attraction and apparently even they could no longer stomach San Fransicko… ROTFLMAO…..

    my wife and i saw that blurb…and i said to her, i’ll bet there’s gonna be an earthquake (b4 we heard about the quake south of san diego).

    the animals know…

    hopefully they were wrong and the quake south of san diego was why they left san fran…


  151. wolfie
    152 | December 31, 2009 10:06 am

    Sorry to do this when I have to hit and run —-but,…

    1. The Iranians are NOT Sunni. They are Shiite. There is no sectarian reason for them to fund the KLA. That wouldn’t stop them from funding them, mind you, as we see with Hamas.

    2. My understanding is that most of the KLA funding was from Arab sources, mainly Saudi. I’m not so sure I buy a big Iranian connection.
    Not saying I deny it, either. Could be. (Yes, Chuck, you can be a sceptic without being a denier!)

    3. I absolutely do not believe in Russian support for the KLA. Yeah, I know they are an underhanded bunch never to be trusted, but if anyone ever could bank on their support, it would be Serbia. I do not think Putin & CO. were faking their outrage against the US support of the KLA and recognition of Kosovo.

    In any case, this has been a great series, CW. I need to follow more of your links later. (Again, sorry for having to leave immediately….Just wanted to get those thoughts out….Back to you later.)


  152. mjazz
    153 | December 31, 2009 10:06 am

    I saw on “A Thousand Ways To Die” last night that some dummy tried to rob a gun store- with predictable results. It said the video had a million hits on the ‘net but I couldn’t find it.
    I found this though. Fake or true? Quick clip.


  153. coldwarrior
    154 | December 31, 2009 10:10 am

    wolfie wrote:

    Sorry to do this when I have to hit and run —-but,…
    1. The Iranians are NOT Sunni. They are Shiite. There is no sectarian reason for them to fund the KLA. That wouldn’t stop them from funding them, mind you, as we see with Hamas.
    2. My understanding is that most of the KLA funding was from Arab sources, mainly Saudi. I’m not so sure I buy a big Iranian connection.
    Not saying I deny it, either. Could be. (Yes, Chuck, you can be a sceptic without being a denier!)
    3. I absolutely do not believe in Russian support for the KLA. Yeah, I know they are an underhanded bunch never to be trusted, but if anyone ever could bank on their support, it would be Serbia. I do not think Putin & CO. were faking their outrage against the US support of the KLA and recognition of Kosovo.
    In any case, this has been a great series, CW. I need to follow more of your links later. (Again, sorry for having to leave immediately….Just wanted to get those thoughts out….Back to you later.)

    1. oouch…typo on my end!

    2. the iranians funded as well utill 1999, have links for that.

    3. there was never support from the russians for the kla…where did you read that? certainly not in this post.


  154. Overlook
    155 | December 31, 2009 10:21 am

    @ kansas:

    I think the “old horizons” the Wally wants to expand is code for Sharmuta. He wants to escape from her smothering.
    How embarrassing for him were she, Dark Falcon and a few others to become regular commenters on True/Slant. The invasion of the toadies. Wally and The Toads – a grotesque road show. The Wally’s little “pieces” (he quotes someone and then says “That’s good, ” or “That’s bad crazy”) will immediately be followed with “Give ‘im a clap,” by the Toads. No way to run a blog.


  155. mjazz
    156 | December 31, 2009 10:28 am

    True Slant is an offshoot of green boogers?


  156. vagabond trader
    157 | December 31, 2009 10:29 am

    @ Overlook:

    Wonder if part of the deal is blocking the lgf sycophants.

    naaaahhhh.


  157. Speranza
    158 | December 31, 2009 11:02 am

    mjazz wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    meaningless rules such as not allowing passengers to leave their seats in the last hour of the flight.
    How is that going to stop someone from detonating an explosive?

    A whole bunch of us at Free Republic have already signed up. Let’s see what type of debater Chuckie is without the ban stick.


  158. Speranza
    159 | December 31, 2009 11:02 am

    Oops that reply was for 148.


  159. 160 | December 31, 2009 11:10 am

    Speranza wrote:

    mjazz wrote:
    @ Iron Fist:
    meaningless rules such as not allowing passengers to leave their seats in the last hour of the flight.
    How is that going to stop someone from detonating an explosive?

    A whole bunch of us at Free Republic have already signed up. Let’s see what type of debater Chuckie is without the ban stick.

    My bet… a couple of responses and then he runs away like a scared little girl…


  160. coldwarrior
    161 | December 31, 2009 11:13 am

    @ doriangrey:

    hopefully he is not paid by hits to his articles


  161. Carolina Girl
    162 | December 31, 2009 11:23 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    I imagine the blonde guitar boy thinks this gig will now make him a syndicated columnist – cutting and pasting articles all over the internet. I’m sure he sees this as a means to up the traffic at LGF, but I don’t think those clowns even HAVE any traffic to speak of. This is a good deal for True/Slant because the lizards will run over there to upding the Chaz.

    And the rest of the blogosphere will yawn, stretch and roll over on their right side and go back to sleep.


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