Michael Scheuer who with no interruption from the host (can you imagine the uproar if someone on C-Span made anti Black statements?), was in charge of the CIA’s get Bin Laden unit (great job on that front Scheuer!), is a long time anti Semitic loon conspiracy theorist. Here he vents his Jew hatred on C-Span with the encouragement of the inevitable Jew hating callers. A message for Scheuer – if the Jews really controlled this country do you think they would allow a vile puss bag like yourself to take another breath on this Earth? Besides Scheuer, there has been a slew of Jew hating former CIA operatives, such as Ray McGovern (who is another one of those ”Jews control America” conspiracy loons, no wonder that agency sucks!) who probably have hopes of cushy Saudi funded jobs when they leave the company!
hat tip Weasel Zippers
► Hot Linksby Nissan Ratzlav-Katz
A caller on a C-Span interview program Monday complained about “all these Jews” having “way too much power” in America and pushing the U.S. into wars with the Muslim world. He found his comments echoed and expanded upon by the studio guest.
Michael Scheuer, the former director of a CIA unit assigned to track down Osama Bin-Laden, calmly expressed the view that American soldiers are now dying in Iraq for the sake of Israelis. He further claimed that any debate of American support for Israel is squelched in the public sphere.
The interviewer for C-Span’s Washington Journal program did not react to the blatantly anti-Semitic exchange. Several other callers praised Scheuer for his position regarding Israel, adding their own condemnation of the Jewish State and its supporters.
An excerpt of the initial discussion follows:
John (on the phone from Franklin, New York): “Good morning. I, for one, am sick and tired of all these Jews coming on C-Span and other stations and pushing us to go to war against our Muslim friends. They’re willing to spend the last drop of American blood and treasure to get their way in the world. They have way too much power in this country. People like Wolfowitz and Feith and the other neo-cons – that Jewed us into Iraq – and now we’re going to spend the next 60 years rehabilitating our soldiers. I’m sick and tired of it.”
C-SPAN host (to Scheuer): “Any comments?”
Scheuer: “Yeah. I think that of course American foreign policy is eventually up to the American people. One of the big things we have not been able to discuss for the past 30 years is our policy towards the Israelis. Whether we want to be involved in fighting Israel’s wars in the future is something that Americans should be able to talk about. They may vote yes. They may want to see their kids killed in Iraq or Yemen or somewhere else to protect Israel. But the question is: we need to talk about it. Ultimately, Israel is a country that is of no particular worth to the United States.”
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Scheuer went on to claim that he lost a job with the Jamestown Foundation think tank for saying that then-presidential candidate Barack Obama was “doing what I call the Tel-Aviv Two Step”. As a result, he claimed, “the donors to that foundation” ordered that he be terminated. He concluded the discussion of Jewish political influence by saying, “You know, you always talk about the Israel Lobby and its power, but to see it up close and personal aimed right at me was very educational. In fact, it was worth the experience of losing a job.”
Tags: C-Span, Michael Scheuer
Thanks Speranza, I never liked this weirdo. Personally I think the CIA should be disbanded.
I’d trust 1,000 Jews before I’d trust a dozen Muslims.
I wonder where they got the idea that the Iraq war was for Israel? Everybody knows it was all about Oiliburton.
Am I the only one whose initial gut response to these items is, Damn, I need more ammo?
Personally in the last month I have witnessed a cluster of anti-Semitic comments made to me or in my presence. This is way way up from “normal”.
I wish FOX would boot Scheuer as an occasional commentator. He’s an embittered piece of crap who blames Israel for the fact that he FAILED to get Bin laden.
Oh, I see. You’re entitled to a job at a think tank, regardless of who’s funding it. That’s for tenured professors, idiot. People in the private sector actually have to watch what you say. But you’re special, right?
Read the whole thing here: http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=7115
@ refugee000:
Same with Buchanan.To be blunt, with a Jew hater in the WH what can one expect. it emboldens the species, same with terrorists and all our other enemies.
@ citizen_q:
See my number 8. Yes,I have heard a few comments even in my little hick libral town.
@ vagabond trader:
Buchanan has been a regular guest and staple of MSNBC.
vagabond trader wrote:
I agree. There’s something in the air right now. Some kind of craziness. Every pos out there is trying to seize their moment. They sense the opportunities presented by zero’s cowardice. It’s going to get worse.
@ vagabond trader:
I stopped reading anything by Buchanan a long time ago. He’s one of the few columnists from Townhall & Human Events I refuse to even click on the link for. I’ve even gone so far as to contact H.E. and suggest they drop him. Unfortunately, they haven’t responded.
vagabond trader wrote:
I just heard someone today say, they couldn’t care less what happens to Israel.
@ snork:
The Iraq war is for whoever the Left’s whipping boy of the month is at that particular time.
@ vagabond trader:
I’ve heard more than my share too. Even from several members of my boyfriend’s family. It’s all very casual for them, these nasty asides at Jews– all the typical ones, Jews love money, Jews are pushy, etc. I’m half Jewish so maybe to them I don’t ‘look’ Jewish [but I really do!].
At the recent Veteran’s Day Parade I struck up a conversation with a guy who seemed fairly normal and then when we touched on politics his inner nazi came out. Blamed the Jews for just about everything.. blah blah. Boy did he ever pick the wrong person. I gave him an earful alright.
@ vagabond trader:
I am getting really concerned. Since the late ’70s I have only experienced isolated occurrences. Lately, it seems everywhere.
@ mfhorn:
I wrote Laura Ingram a few emails after he was on her show. Never heard back. Did not make a difference. I stopped listening.
@ chickadee:
I think you are right. Not just anti-Semitism, but an edge to the “air” that somehting nasty is on the way. I think that is why you have seen gun and ammunition sales go through the roof the way they have. People aren’t specifically stocking up for civil war or anything like that, but everybody all at once decided that a few guns and a couple of thousand rounds of ammo for them was something like life insurance. Just prudent to have.
@ Urban Infidel:
I am Jewish, but I don’t discuss religion or appear outwardly Jewish. The things people have said in my presence, not specifically directed at me because the did not realize I was a member of the tribe was eye-opening. In this day and age.
@ vagabond trader:
Is Huckabee anti-Israel/Jewish? I can’t stand either one of these two. Along with Hunter. They remind me too much of my father. Talk the talk, but don’t walk the walk. I hate covert “beliefs” (almost wrote racism, but corrected myself! – I’m learning thanks to you all!)
These claims that Jews or Israel control the American government are beyond absurd as George Mitchell has made incredibly clear this week!
George Mitchell THREATENED ISRAEL on PBS a couple of days ago. He said that if Israel and the “Palestinians” don’t sit down for peace talks soon, he can withhold military aid from Israel (at a time when the U.S. is beefing up Arab nations with the latest and greatest in military equipment).
Israel has said (almost daily) that Israel is willing to sit down with the “Palestinians” to talk to them. It’s the “Palestinians” who are refusing to do so unless Israel meets all or most of the “Palestinian” concession demands before anyone steps into a room.
George Mitchell wants to punish Israel for this.
He’s essentially saying that if Israel won’t commit national suicide as a PRE-REQUISITE for peace talks with the “Palestinians,” then the U.S. will punish Israel for choosing to live.
Clinton and Mitchell have ALSO been demanding that the peace talks be concluded with a peace deal in two years. They want Israel to sign off on this (as if Israel can force the “Palestinians” to be reasonable in a deal within two short years).
Israel is saying no to a deadline, which Clinton and Mitchell probably also see as grounds to punish Israel.
If there is a deadline, the “Palestinians” will sit on their asses to wait for it to finish and then demand EVERYTHING they want. Israel is supposed to give them everything they want (i.e., commit national suicide) at the end of two years?
WHO SAYS that Israel controls the U.S. government?!?!?
Michell demanding “Make the ‘Palestinians’ happy or else, Israel!” is not Israel having control over the U.S. Not by a long shot.
@ MrPaulRevere:
Good article.
Very, very disturbing.
@ citizen_q:
I am Christian, although I don’t appear it either – lol. Nor, do I look at others based on their appearance, the way they talk or the color of their skin. I could care less. I care more about the person.
@ citizen_q:
Disappointing, isn’t it?
@ Eliana:
Puck Falestine
This blaming the Jews stuff is so played out.These guys need to get originality. I personally think most of these Anti-Semites are on the Saudi payroll.
@ Eliana:
The ultimate conspiracy theory. It’s amazing how it only applies to conservatives, but heaven forbid, it you call the progressives out on any of their “scientific proven” theories you are condemned to burn in hell.
citizen_q wrote:
What was Laura’s take on his “opinions?” Laura’s awfully savvy on these things – is she allowing his ridiculous stands to go unchallenged? If so, I will have to reevaluate my opinion of her.
The average American has a soft spot in its heart for Israel. I would hope that gives our brethren in the Mid-East comfort, even if they find no quarter from the current administration.
@ Eliana:
Notice there are no demands being made of the Palestinians. It doesn’t look like they are even going to make the Palis make meaningless gestures like “renouncing” terrorism. Anyone who thinks the Donks are the friends of Israel and/or the Jews hasn’t paid attention to the history of the last forty years.
@ citizen_q:
@ Urban Infidel:
Just a few weeks ago heard a teller at my supermarket bank make an offhand comment about her husband not putting up Christmas lights and the neighbors were going to think they were Jews. I let it slide, did not want to create a stink during the holidays. Yeah, I don’t “look” Jewish either and my married name is Italian so that really loosens the inhibitions.Truth be told I never feel 100% Jew safe. My husband wanted to fly an Israeli flag on our property and I said No Way.
Good for you UI!
Thank G-d we still have 2nd amendment rights. For now.
Hillary Clinton AND George Mitchell AND Barack Obama have been insulting the Israelis all year, too.
They keep saying that Israelis don’t understand how much better things would be if they had peace.
These liberal boneheads are claiming that nearly 6 million Jews in Israel don’t understand that it would be better if others didn’t spend nearly all their time plotting how to mass murder Jews.
Making Arab Muslims “happy” isn’t the answer, though.
The WAR that Obama, Clinton and Mitchell are trying to stop is the war against the Jews in the Middle East (where Arab Muslims want the Jews dead or gone from a region they regard as belonging entirely to the Arab Muslim world).
This isn’t a disagreement between two peoples. This is a war against the Jews in the Middle East with the Jews fighting in self-defense.
Obama, Clinton, and Mitchell — hey, Jews KNOW it would be nice to stop being targets for mass murder because we’re Jews. We KNOW it would be cool if Jew-hatred stopped and if people didn’t hate us so much that they were willing to commit suicide for the chance to murder random Jews. We (Jews) all over the world know this.
Acting as if Israel is in a 50-50 fight with Arab Muslims isn’t going to fix the problem. The first goal is Israel’s self-defense and long term survival. Obama, Clinton, and Mitchell — try putting your heads on straight and figure this out. It’s supposed to be your job to know things like this.
@ Rodan:
Blaming it on being black/yellow/purple (or lizard green). I think more and more are getting it.
If I had to describe a thief to the police officer, would the police officer be offended if I describe the thief as a female mexican – would they? Do I care?
What’s funny is people like Scheuer really don’t get that by attacking Jews, they are making themselves out to be collaborators. The American people are sick of the Imperialists and to see these jerks attack one of our closest allies, they are making clear in who’s camp they are.
Scheuer is a collaborator and he needs to be called out.
@ refugee000:
He is also on Hannity,very disappointing since Hannity is a strong supporter of Israel.I have to wonder if Buchanan was some kind of mentor or such. No excuse.
Many moons ago,when i still lived at home and was fairly naive,i just threw up my hands and said”What is the deal with Israel and the Arabs???Why cant they get along?”. My mom said “Here,read this book” and gave me “Exodus”by Leon Uris.It blew me away.Being a voracious reader,i then read tons of books about Israel..lol my Mom later said she seriously thought i would convert,because i was now an educated pro-Israel guy who cut other people to ribbons in any argument related to that.I tell every one i meet..online or “real life” to read that book,if they really want to get a grasp on the history of Israel.
P.S> my mom wasnt that far off in thinking that,and though my parents are staunch Catholics,they would have been totally cool with it if i had.
@ Eliana:
Exactly!
Projection pure and simple.
Israel is pressured into national suicide, for Zero’s political agenda and the Jew-haters who want to take where hitler left off. There is Jew-hatred everywhere. If it were almost any other identifiable group there would be outrage to the heavens.
Yet is it Israel and all Jews worldwide by proxy who are somehow the super-natural puppet masters controlling events.
@ Dolphin:
That’s different than saying Jews run the country and all these old dumb anti-Semite theories. This is clearly Saudi money at work.
@ Iron Fist:
Absolutely.
The “Palestinians” never budge a centimeter. The only way progress is possible is if Israel moves all the way (even single centimeter) to the “Palestinian” position.
The Dems know this and they’re threatening to harm Israel if Israel refuses to do 100% of the concessions that it would take to meet the “Palestinian” demands.
In this case, Israel will have to say to Obama and company, “If you want us to commit national suicide or else do without your military aid, then we will have to do without your military aid. Either way, we would lose it since we won’t exist as a nation if we do what the ‘Palestinians’ are demanding of us.”
This wouldn’t be a bluff on Israel’s part. The “Palestinian” demands are DESIGNED to end Israel’s existence. Every single demand has this goal.
Lets get video/youtube of these types of statements by him,and send to Hannity,Beck,and anyone it may concern.This guy is wacked.Its too bad,as he does have some insight into all things Osama/9/11 related.
But i remember him bashing Bush all the time as well.
@ vagabond trader:
Scheuer is buddies with Buchanan and Paul. He’s in their Isolationist anti-Israel camp.
@ Eliana:
It will profit them nothing to do so. Americans love Israel – it is only the “Progressives” that continue to foster the hatred, and they do so at their peril. They make the stupid assumption that Americans as a group believe Israel is the aggressor, when in fact the average American knows just the opposite. They know who the terrorists are – despite all attempts to subvert reality.
GOD BLESS AND PRESERVE ISRAEL.
@ Carolina Girl:
I used to listen to Laura. She started to sound too much like she was “preaching” at me and not talking to me. There is a fine line between you political beliefs and your spiritual beliefs. Sometimes it is difficult for me to separate, but I have learned to do so. The law of the land rules. PERIOD. If I don’t like it, it is up to me to vote appropriately.
@ wolfie:
Glad you liked it! One thing about this bum Scheuer I have noticed is that he panders to whomever has him on their show, and is very circumspect about Israel(he avoids the subject entirely) when he appears on pro Israeli shows. I intensely dislike shape shifters.
George Mitchell is a Lebanese, of Maronite Catholic background. He is no friend to Jews or Israel.
Barack Obama grew up exposed to the triune antisemitic influences of Leftism, Islam, and the Left/Islamic-dominated post-Civil Rights movement. He is no friend to Jews or Israel.
Hillary Clinton, like Obama, has a Leftist background, but more importantly does not give a damn who she sells out as long as she is rewarded by her party with access to power. She is no friend to Jews or Israel.
@ Eliana:
haven’t I been saying what they did to Serbia, they are now doing to Israel. They are demonizing Israel as genocidal and now are even calling for an attack. This is like the whole let’s attack Serbia mania they were pushing back in 92-93. The US bombed Serb positions in Bosnia in the summer of 95 to force them to agree to the Dayton Accords. 4 years later the Us Bombs Serbia itself to force them to give up Kossovo. That is the blueprint of what they want to do with Israel.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
See my 45.
@ theTarCzar:
This book (“Exodus”) has a profound impact on Jews who read it, too. I’ve known Jews in my life who were not that concerned about Israel until they read this book. After reading it, they went to Israel repeatedly on visits (and some have since immigrated to Israel from America).
It knocked my socks off, too.
@ citizen_q:
I sincerely wish leftist American Jews would realize this. Their commie friends are not that into them if push came to shove.It is distressing to me that so many are willfully ignorant, feeling safe in their assimilation and secular religion of liberalism.
I never received a response. I may not be the best writer, but I very polite explaining due to what I knew of his anti-Semitic statements I could not take him seriously. Since his view are widely known, I had to assume that Laura knew of them, yet she repeatedly had him on her show.
Carolina Girl wrote:
@ Rodan:
I need to think about this. I started to write a response and ended up making your exact point. The way I stated, was not how I wanted it to come across!
My point had to do with the propaganda on both sides.
O/Y -Dallas is killing Philadelphia – which is fine with me – I’m in favor of anything that keeps that low-life Vick from getting a Super Bowl ring.
Antisemitism is deep and wide. American institutions, though infected, are not yet overcome by it. The White House is getting the fever.
I have just read “A State Beyond The Pale”, by Robin Shepherd. He analyzes the various strands of antisemitism – and what can be fairly called antisemitism and what shouldn’t be so called – in Europe. He also suggests there is a danger that America will go the same way.
With the veiled threats to shoot down Israeli war planes on the way to Iran, and the recent threat to withdraw aid if the Israelis do not get to peace within 2 years, I think that train is speeding up.
Israel could survive without aid, but not without political support from America, and not with active interference from it.
@ Carolina Girl:
Thanks, Carolina Girl!
I’ve seen polls of American voters and they are more supportive of Israel now than American voters have been in decades!!
Obama and the rest of the Dems are totally out of touch with Americans.
@ vagabond trader:
It’s us American Christians who the true friends of Israel and the Jewish people. The Progressives deep down inside hate Jews. They use Leftist Jews as tools to mask their agenda. They also do the same to other groups.
Let’s not forget the last major genocide of the Jewish people was down by another Progressive movement in Germany 70 years ago.
@ Dolphin:
Oh I figured it!
I got your point.
@ Eliana:
For me,believe it or not, it was Uris’ “QB VII” as far as going furhter in my “search.” It was my mother who informed me that my uncle liberated Dachau.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Anyone know how to attach images to your posts on this froum? I have a picture of the Clintons, Bill, Hillary, and Chelsse in hajibs all lovey-dovey with arafat that seems appropriate.
@ citizen_q:
I am most emphatically not the person to give technical advice.
‘Til tomorrow, folks.
@ Eliana:
Exactly, that’s why I say, they insult Israel at their peril. The majority of Americans support Israel and these people are playing with fire. They are being seen as collaborators of the Imperialist.
@ Overlook:
Israel could indeed survive without military aid, but Obama could do horrendous damage to Israel by allowing the wolves at the UN to attack Israel with sanctions.
Interestingly enough, when Obama didn’t seem to be going along with the idea of a veto at the UN Security Council if it takes up the issue of the Gaza War — China and Russia said they’d veto it instead.
France actually indicated that they might do so, too.
The “Palestinians” have backed away from trying to push this to the Security Council if they’re going to get 3 out of 5 permanent members promising to veto (even without America being one of them).
I’m not sure why China and Russia (and maybe France) indicated that they would veto such a move, but it’s very disturbing that Obama is already considering a position where America doesn’t keep the UN wolves at bay when it comes to Israel.
I agree, it seems to me that leftist Jews are useful-idiots helping in the their own demise. Thinking along those lines and our response, or more accurately of late our non-response to the jihad, that many seem to have lost their survival instinct.
Rodan wrote:
@ Eliana:
Sanctions is the 1st stage before a military attack.
@ Rodan:
I will stand with the Jewish people and Israel before I will stand with my current president.
A year or so ago, I really wanted to go and see the Holy Land. Not on a “tour”, but go and really see it, go and see what was important to me. I still want to do so, but the $$ is just outside of my means right now.
When I voiced this to my sister (12 years my senior and a “minister” at her church, she said “no, that’s not where you need to go to make a difference, you should go to China, that’s where you can truly minister”
@ Carolina Girl:
Wow! Did you hear about this from your uncle himself?
Leon Uris had a big impact on a lot of people.
The movie they made of “Exodus” in 1960 was really good, too.
@ Dolphin:
I feel the same way. I have seen this before when my Serb brothers were attacked. I’ll be damn if we do the same to Israel. These Collaborators and Imperialists need to be stopped!
I kind of live in two different worlds here in VA.
On one side, it’s the world of hillbillies, rednecks, gun-clingers, Bible-thumpers, home-schoolers, turkey hunters, Civil War re-enactors, and tractor-driving grannies.
On the other side, it’s the halls of Enlightened Academe.
I don’t know what is in people’s hearts, but on the first side I can honestly say that I’ve never heard one anti-semitic word. On the academic side I have, and it seems to me to be increasingly tolerated and even condoned. I think it’s gotten much worse just over the last decade.
Something else. As an adjunct part-timer, who teaches all around the area at different schools, I can’t help but associate anti-semitism with the left. The moonbattier the school, the more it seems it is in evidence.
@ Rodan:
True. The UN is itching to start down this path.
The UN doesn’t care ONE WHIT about the 3 million blacks in Sudan who have been butchered in the last few years or the other millions who have fled.
The UN has their sights on Israel for existing as a Jewish nation.
@ wolfie:
Howdy neighbor! I am in the People’s Republik of Maryland!
Incredible.
“Israel is a country that is of no particular worth to the United States”
Other than the fact that for so long it was the only viable democracy in the region. Not to mention a staunch ally. Not to mention a valuable source for intell. Not to mention a country that will do our dirty work, like taking out Sadamm’s nuclear reactor, and we hope, Iran’s.
How ’bout them Cowboys?
@ Rodan:
The more and more I learn about history and living in the current history, the islmaic terror that has been on this earth for so many years need to be a lesson long learned.
@ Eliana:
Love both. Must get the QB VII dvd.Anthony Hopkins.
hey hey hey check me out posting from my cellphone
@ Eliana:
“I’m not sure why China and Russia (and maybe France) indicated that they would veto such a move, but it’s very disturbing that Obama is already considering a position where America doesn’t keep the UN wolves at bay when it comes to Israel.”
China is inscrutable. The IBD has a horrifying article on China’s – through Taiwan – active help in the nuclearization of Iran. One might understand a UN veto of disapproval of action taken against Muslim insurgents/extremists, because China wants no constraints on her own actions. But why should China want a nuclear-armed Muslim regional hegemon? Baffling.
@ Dolphin:
To this aspect.. I agree with Glen Beck on most aspects and really enjoy him, but where does he stand on Israel? He is very obscure on this.
All these wolves are taking advantage of zero’s debilitating love of Islam.
He has put his allegiance with his muzz father who abandoned him. Imagine how desperately he wants to have a connection with his dad.
And then his stupid name. Barack HUSSEIN Obama. He can’t get away from it.
He is so enamored of Islam he is causing instability in the world.
@ Overlook:
Oil?
@ theTarCzar:
I read that book as a teen-ager and it had profound impact on me too.
@ Eliana:
My uncle never talked about it – the images of the evil inhumanity he witnessed were burned into his brain – I had no idea until my mother mentioned it. I talked to him about it in the gentlest manner I could muster and I was honored that he spoke to me about it in a rather frank manner.
He said “I had no idea that any human beings anywhere could allow this to happen to other human beings. You know, they talk about slavery. This was so much worse. My heart just broke right then and there.”
Rancher wrote:
@ Overlook:
Maybe China is hoping they will all nuke each other and she can waltz in and take the oil/
@ vagabond trader:
Is it available? It’s a MUST HAVE. Although I still can’t watch the videos that he watches at Yad Visham without wanting to simult
@ Eliana:
All of our so-called “leaders” are out of touch with most Americans. Sarah Palin is the only person on the stage that speaks for me and sometimes I wonder about her.
I meant to say without simultaneously wanting to cry and become physically ill.
My goal in life is to be called a “righteous gentile.”
Dolphin wrote:
I dont know,but he’s mostly concerned with domestic goings-on.
wolfie wrote:
Yes its probably my all time favorite book.Ironically,ive never seen the movie.
citizen_q wrote:
No kidding!
Howdy!
Speaking of anti-semitism, world class whack job, drug user and drunk driver Oliver Stone plans a documentary series that he promises will put Hitler and Stalin “in context”. Can’t wait//
Ooops…Oliver Stone’s ‘Secret History’ to put Hitler ‘in context’ http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/01/oliver-stone-history-america.html
@ citizen_q:
But China will make itself vulnerable to extortion. I cannot see how there can be an ideological entente between communism and Islam.
Two great totalitarian systems – and the one filled with people loyal to the other – is not a stable arrangement.
Iron Fist wrote:
As far as Israel/Jewish people,i know she sent out a seemingly heartfelt greeting for Hannukah,and she also had an Isreali flag in her Governors office.I dont think we have to worry about that aspect.
@ Carolina Girl:
It is available last I checked, meant to buy it for the other half. He has a small collection of Jewish related films and documentaries. Another of my faves is a more broad historical fiction of WWII, The Winds of War and War and Remembrance,books and mini series. The latter has the most powerful vivid depiction of the Holocaust ever filmed, for tv no less. Very tough viewing, compelling story.
@ Carolina Girl:
I think that those (like your uncle) who liberated the death camps have been haunted by what they saw for the rest of their lives.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
Lol..whats the betting line that Hitler and Stalin come off more sympathetic than he portrayed Bush?
Dolphin wrote:
No he’s not. Glenn Beck believes Israel is the only real hope for sanity in the Mideast.
@ MrPaulRevere:
Oh dear God…
@ MrPaulRevere:
I saw that.
In the piece, he goes on to describe how totally SCREWED Obama is because of Bush, a man he “completely despises.”
It’s a different planet that these folks inhabit. I’m trying to stop letting it bother me because it’s not going away any time soon.
Our only hope is to turn the tables and ridicule them the way that they ridicule and dismiss us.
Trying to argue facts with them is both pointless and dangerous. Pointless because they have no intent of winning their argument on merit (they just change the rules as they go) and dangerous because it’s time-consuming and takes eyes off the ball.
@ theTarCzar:
It is more that I worry that can anyone get as high as she has in that world and not be corrupted? That is what troubles me. Part of me is really paranoid. I wonder if McCain picked her simply so he could take her down in flames with him. He didn’t try too hard to win. Paranoid? Perhaps, but damn, it could be true…
@ MrPaulRevere:
From the link, dear G-d what an,what is the word I’m looking for? Oh yeah. Asshole!
@ Eliana:
Yup!
@ Overlook:
I would guess it would be stable as long a one has what the other wants. China wants oil, Iran nukes. Iran would be only one front on that quest for China.
Of course the 12th imam types could upset that apple cart. Seems to me they can’t help themselves killing infidels for long even when its in their own long term interest.
Eliana wrote:
I only saw “Exodus” for the first time a few years ago. I loved it. Paul Newman was so handsome and compelling but I thought that Sal Mineo was the best performance. He was so into his role that I felt he was the one living the story and everyone else was an actor. It was a great movie.
If anyone needs a good laugh this AoS thread is hilarious
http://minx.cc/?post=296802
a few good cj references too.As always its (at least) R-rated.
@ Eliana:
It goes to show what happens when the best of humanity is confronted by the acts of the worst.
Oh, and to answer another question asked upthread — Glenn Beck is most assuredly a friend of Israel.
@ Dolphin:
Beck is hardcore Pro Israel. But right now his focus is on the Progressive Movement in America. Defeat them and Israel is OK. We don’t defeat them here, Israel is in trouble.
@ Iron Fist:
Ain’t that the rub.
The best candidates to lead this nation wouldn’t want any part of the filth and shame you’ve got to go through to get there.
@ Zimriel:
Good link Zim!
@ Rodan:
Bingo!
@ theTarCzar:
My point exactly. Again, I agree with almost all of his “fight” for America, but it is a global world and I would like to know where he stands. I agree with Ron Paul on his $$ stands, but wouldn’t elect him to ANYTHING! I give my allegiance very hesitantly!
@ vagabond trader:
Let me translate this for you, Mr. Stone — You are going to BOMB at the box office.
@ theTarCzar:
@ mfhorn:
@ vagabond trader:
Please allow me a quick preview of the esteemed Mr. Stones up coming series: ITS ALL AMERICAS FAULT
Iron Fist wrote:
I dont know,but shes “excited” me more than any other politician ever has.And in debates i always go back to”Name me ONE politician that risked their entire political career to take on corruption ..in their OWN party??”
There is something comforting about that.
@ Rodan:
Absolutely right!
MrPaulRevere wrote:
Dingdangit!You ruined the ending!
@ theTarCzar:
Heh
@ vagabond trader:
Big question is “why?”
At what point did Stone stop and say “hmm. I think I’ll make movies that portray Hitler and Stalin in a more sympathetic light. They’re really getting raked through the mud.”
I refuse to believe there isn’t political motivation by minds other than his. I’m not saying conspiracy, I’m just saying strongly suggested by the Progressive movers and shakers.
@ vagabond trader:
Israel is one front in a Global Struggle against Progressive Collaborators and their Islamo-Imperialist allies. America is the key, if Progressives lose here, Then Israel and other resistance forces can beat this evil Axis.
Global Resistance Solidarity is needed!
chickadee wrote:
Im going to have to find it on DVD.
@ Zimriel:
You are correct. I forgot about the interview with Netanyahu (I believe that was back when he was on CNN?)
I wish he would speak out more about the situation, but I understand, he is fighting for America right now.
@ Dolphin:
If Progressives are defeated in America, Israel will be OK. If they win, Israel is screwed. The fight is here and Progressives must be focused on. Plus this is a global struggle
@ Bumr50:
As we’ve been saying he feels safe taking America and the eeevil capitalistic system down.Wonder how much blame he’ll lay on Europes Jews for the Holocaust.
@ Eliana:
I made an argument on the Johnson LA whatever thread that the progressive “movement” is just as dangerous as the Islamic Jihad to the American way of life and original values.
They both have their sights set on the destruction of America, and to underestimate the domestic enemy within would(is, could be) a fatal mistake.
There are those just as devoted to progressivism as al-Qaeda is to radical Islam.
@ Bumr50:
Progressives wanting to rehabilitate the reputations of their greatest successes? That doesn’t take a conspiracy, just a nut like Oliver Stone and an evil man like George Soros to supply the money. It quits being objective evil, and becomes a marketing campaign. Remember a few years ago when the Academy Award mentioned Leni Riefenstahl in a positive light? Almost no one was shocked or offended.
@ Rodan:
I stand corrected!! See my 118!
Oliver Stone set out to make a movie that DEMONIZES President George W. Bush and a series that WHITEWASHES Hitler and Stalin.
Proggies wonder how we get the impression that they despise America and instead side with historical madmen who have murdered tens of millions of people.
It’s because they do.
Bumr50 wrote:
Well thats another plus for Palin,in my book.Shes taken an unbelievable (and unfair)beating from the Dem/Media/Entertainment Industry Axis of Anal,but has kept her cool,and continues to rise.Shes not afraid to fight back,and so far has landed some devastating hits,with class and wit.
Shes also as vetted as anyone has ever been…and they have NOTHING on her.Thats why they keep making up sh*T.
@ Iron Fist:
Oh yes, I certainly do recall that and have never watched another AA ceremony since.
@ Eliana:
Now the Progressives are rehabilitating Hitler? I guess they are finally embracing their Cousin Ideology. They are revealing their true colors.
@ Iron Fist:
All he has to do is paint them as victims, the tried and true methodology of the left.
“if only we understood them better…”
@ Dolphin:
I replied at 119.
Eliana wrote:
Oliver Stone is the Leni Riefenstahl of the sex drugs and rock n’ roll left. Before I started going back to church I would have said I hate his guts and would like to see him disappear. But I don’t say things like that anymore //
Bumr50 wrote:
I agree. Moreover, they impede our ability to fight the Jihad— to put it very, very kindly.
g’nite all!
Rodan wrote:
Well said!
@ MrPaulRevere:
Let him do it!Itll be easier to link Hitler to the progressive movement if he makes this movie.
We have a fan. How quaint. How goes it Gus? You spineless shape shifting weasel. Dark_Falcon Sat, Jan 9, 2010 7:15:24pm replyquote
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OT: Rodan is ranting in favor of the Serbs over at the stalker blog. Yes, that’s right, he’s actually siding with Slobodan Milosevic and Arkan; saying that the Serbs were in the right in Bosnia. Rodan has thus put the Stalker Blog on record defending mass murder. The Bad Craziness deepens.
More from the new book:
“The relationship between Barack Obama and Joe Biden grew so strained during the 2008 campaign, according to a new book, that the two rarely spoke and aides not only kept Biden off internal conference calls but refused to even tell him they existed…
“[W]hen Biden, at an October fund-raiser in Seattle, famously predicted that Obama would be tested with an international crisis, the then-Illinois senator had had enough.
“‘How many times is Biden gonna say something stupid?’ he demanded of his advisers on a conference call, a moment at which most people on the call said the candidate was as angry as they had ever heard him…
“Speaking to his own staff, Biden insisted that it hadn’t really been a gaffe. And feeling a bit defensive, he invoked one of the worst memories of Obama’s primary campaign.
“‘I guess it’s a good thing I didn’t say anything about bitter people who cling to their guns and religion,’ Biden cracked, the authors paraphrase.”
@ Dolphin:
Nite dolphin, don’t let the bedbugs bite.
@ MrPaulRevere:
I was standing with the Serbs. Dark Falcon stands with Islamo-Imperialists. He has exposed himself as a Collaborator.
Replace Serbia with Israel and you get the same rhetoric. Dark falcon will be calling Israelis genocidal in a few months, watch.
@ theTarCzar:
Oliver Stone is validating what Jonah Goldberg, Glenn beck, David Horowitz and I have been saying. Hitler and the Nazis were Progressives.
I saw Scheuer on Fox yesterday and was commenting to my co-worker that he helps to ruin the credibility of FNC. But at least he doesn’t have a show.
Oh and yes, I defend extermination of stink bugs. I seem to find one every day.
@ Rodan:
Right. They will be told what to think and will parrot the pony tail line 24/7.
Hi Dark Falcon, thanks for informing people who we are here! Appreciate the promotion!
Well the fister blog is on record as defending the child-prostitution enabling ACORN,and the damn near Pedophile “education minister”,so i guess they are on record as supporting the sick violation of children.
@ MrPaulRevere:
Oh yeah once the Jazz Artist turns on Israel, they cult followers will change their previous views.
Nite all.
I hate the Cowboys.
@ Rodan:
Liberal Fascism should be required reading.
@ Rodan:
There’s nothing better than free advertising.
@ MrPaulRevere:
Dark_f**k must be a really good ventriloquist, how else could he still speak when his mouth is full?
Rodan wrote:
Lol Dark-Falcon should be Meek-Parakeet.He gets lashed with a wet noodle over his “views” and backtracks faster than Racist Reid.Gutless.
theTarCzar wrote:
RAAAAACCCISSSTTTTT!
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Rodan wrote:
I’m for the Serbs. And so would these suck ups be, if CJ authorized it. In other words they are for nothing. They have no opinions. They are too busy hanging on his every word. They have long since stopped thinking for themselves.
@ gilescorey:
Absolutley! Jonah Goldberg is an Intellectual Giants of our times. That book ripped the mask and exposed who the Progressives really are. They are part of a larger Leftist Totalitarian Ideology that includes Marxist-Leninists, Maoists, Nazis, Socialists, Tranzis and American progressives. This movement I call The Progressive Movements.
@ Rodan:
Really, Dark_F**k is a regular subject here. He wishes people cared about his stupid ass that much.
The only time that shitbird was mentioned here was when asked for a female here to be shot in the head.
@ Rodan:
lol,that’ll bring a few over here this weekend, watch.
Hi all,
It’s depressing how anti-semitism continues in this world. 0′s playing off of it so he can look like he knows what he’s doing foreign policy-wise. He also has Mitchell using Chicago thug tactics. I’m trying to think of a more narcissistic president but can’t.
@ theTarCzar:
Dark Falcon bashed Obama and then when challenged apologizes and weasels out. He then praises the Progressives at the Jazz Artist Blog. He’s a coward of the highest order and runs away from his views when confronted. He’s a chump.
@ chickadee:
The scary thing is how easily they went along with his appointing the Fiskie Award winner and not having voting.
@ bar:
No one mentions him except in passing sometimes. He reads this blog regularly. He really loves us!
@ Rodan:
Being a product of the 70′s and 80′s public school system in the people’s republic of Maryland, I hadn’t learned about the infiltration into our country during WWII and before. It was revelation after revelation for me.
But not only is Jonah Goldberg an intellectual giant, but he is funny and charismatic.
@ theTarCzar:
well, well, well, hey dark falcon, i wrote the serb posts, why dont you go and read them?
i have one in the works that tells the real story of the srebrenica so called ‘massacre’
the balkan problem part one
the balkan problem part 2a
the balkan problem part 3
i ionvite our lizard readers to peruse the above posts and think for yourselves for a change
@ MrPaulRevere:
How many died under Clinton’s bombs? How is that different? This would, of course, be the same Clinton who ignored the masscre in Rwanda, wouldn’t it? Did Clinton side with the mass murderers there? At the end of the day, there were people on both sides of the line doing bad things in the Balkans. I don’t know that we should have stepped in at all (Weasely Clark almost got us into a shooting war with Russia over it. I don’t see as there was anything there worth that), but retrospect would make me think we chose the wrong side, if for no other reason than that everywhere else you see mohammedans on the other side of the line they are the bad guys.
I’m sensing a pattern here…
livefreeor die wrote:
I didn’t know about that. Well, his metamorphism is complete.
He is now a dictator and has no need for any opinions except his own.
@ Rodan:
I skimmed thru a thread the other day,just stopping at the “red”marked comments,as they are the only ones not participating in the C(ircle)J(erk).They were talking about Mcarthy(ism).The parakeet tweeted somewhat in support of Mcarthy(hey he was right,when you get down to it,etc).Then the wet noodles came out!A couple lashes and he was “uhh yeah maybe i need to educate myself some more.sorry guys!” Then a couple of them patted him on the head.Lol it was pathetic.
@ coldwarrior:
UpChuck warms up the banstick for anyone who dares visit ‘the stalker site’.
coldwarrior wrote:
You should make those a “sticky” and keep them permanently in the side bar.
mfhorn wrote:
if they fear an aged hippie with a virtual stick , then they are not worth saving
@ theTarCzar:
He is a loser.
@ Iron Fist:
Over 3,000 Serb civilians were killed by NATO bombing I read.
@ theTarCzar:
maybe after the part 4 srebrenica posting
@ MrPaulRevere:
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Not just that in WW2 The Islamo-Imperialist and the Nazis killed 750,000 Serbs.
mfhorn wrote:
that is a shame because we are always open for honest debate with anyone, i would really enjoy a head to head with one of the lizards over this serb topic.
coldwarrior wrote:
Ok good.
@ theTarCzar:
LGFers have defended Mao, which (unlike defending Glenn Beck!) is quite acceptable to CJ.
They have also defended the CPUSA, a party fully under Joseph Stalin, not to mention vigorously pro-Hitler the first 2 years of WW2. CJ banned a poster defending silly ol’ Joe McCarthy, but he didn’t mind commenters drooling over the beauty of Stalinism.
So I think LGF can take the prize as defenders of mass murder.
Rodan wrote:
Must be.If youre so desperate to be accepted by a freekin’ blog you change your worldview according to the blogmasters whims,and go into the corner with your tail between your legs when challenged..thats truly pathetic beyond words.
wolfie wrote:
They are also ClimateGate deniers so they are also on record as defenders of the biggest attempted anti-science swindle in history.
night all…
@ chickadee:
“So this is how democracy dies. With thunderous applause.”
@ Rancher:
Rancher wrote:
Whenever I hear that pitiful argument I always ask what was the value of Belgium to America in the 1940s?
Over 60,000 Americans died in Belgium, and it wasn’t for the chocolate.
@ refugee000:
He works for FOX? He should get booted.
They may want to see their kids killed in Iraq or Yemen or somewhere else to protect Israel. Israel is a country that is of no particular worth to the United States.
That’s warped.
Rodan wrote:
George Mitchell is arab in case anyone here wasn’t aware of that. I have no idea what his real name is before the Americanization
@ theTarCzar:
I still can’t get that picture of CJ out of my memory. That pudgy face and beady eyes. He’s as creepy as his persona.
Rodan wrote:
What? I thought Stone was pro palie?
teacake wrote:
He is.But making a movie to “humanize” both Stalin and Hitler,should make it easier to prove that Hitler was much more of a “Progressive”,rather than the “right wing”monster they make him out to be.
@ theTarCzar:
Oh? Now that is fucking fucked up and a bit on the ironic side. So, if he was a progressive, what does that say about him and everyone else? Hitler wasn’t so bad, he is like them? I’m very confused.
I guess they never heard of Kuwait?
Anti-Semites don’t have ears to hear.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
I was sick last night and missed my own thread. Yes I think that the CIA is an overrated organization that is frankly overrun by Democrats.
Rodan wrote:
That is good for getting more people to come over here. Also he comes over here to look what we are writing about and reports it to the cesspool and we are the stalkers?
bar wrote:
I beleive that was Ben Zacharia’s Bat