Submitted 07Feb2009
Tonight its the Saints and the Colts in the big one. Rodan tells me from the parties in Miami that my beloved Steeler Nation is there in force (which should go without saying) and that they are 100% behind the Saints. I like that choice, but if I were betting, its the Colts winning it. Next year is uncapped salary year, then if negotiations fail, its another NFL players strike. Regardless of who you root for, or even root at all, enjoy the day!
The Nor’eastern that blew through the mid-Atlantic dropped record snow in DC, Delaware, New Jersey, Maryland, Pennsylvania, et cetera. It was strong enough to drop 21” in Pittsburgh. That’s the 4th highest total in history. So here are some pics, enjoy the game and open thread.
Tags: superbowl
I will NEVER root for the Colts–they ran out of Baltimore in the middle of the night AND they kept the name.
Second
I just hope it’ a good ball game. I don’t care who wins. The only time I care is when Crimson Tide is playing. ROLLLL TIDE!!
@ Grimcargo:
Amen Brotheren
goddessoftheclassroom wrote:
thats a good enough reason for me!
At least tha Ravens had to leave the Browns name behind when they split Cleveland.
Now that’s some snow!
@ m:
yeah!
today i gotta dig my miata out of the snowbank…no fun
Here in So. California the rain stopped and sun is coming out.
If we don’t slide into the ocean, it will be a beautiful day.
Nyah, nyah.///
coldwarrior wrote:
Miata? I pictured you driving a some kind of big ass 4X4.
Hopefully there will be too much Globull Warming for the Obamanation to be able to leave
HellWashington DC and go to the game.coldwarrior wrote:
ROTFLMAO… How did you manage to get a miata stuck in a snow bank? Dont those things usually just bounce off a good stiff breeze???
Snow stopped falling around 8PM last night. Sun is out shing today (although it’s only 27 degrees out) and people are starting to dig out. It’s gorgeous out! The trees look like someone went nuts with a flocking machine!
PS – Thank you Lord for allowing us to keep our power and HEAT!
O/T Explosion at Conn. power plant
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,585040,00.html
Al Gore must be mighty proud of all this inconvenient white stuff.
RFK Jr. says there’s no snow.
A Kennedy hath spaketh. You’re all imagining the snow.
CynicalConservative wrote:
Yeah – I just heard that. A CLEAN energy plant. They say it’s a mass casualty event and you can see black smoke for miles.
gulfloafer wrote:
we have a durango as well.
i love my miata, its all the fun of an mg without the electrical problems
@ CynicalConservative:
Not at all good. Possibly weather related, though.
doriangrey wrote:
that snow bank is from the snow, the car didnt move.
snork wrote:
wow, that must be some powerful acid i’m on…that snow seems so real.
Fatalities Reported After Explosion at Connecticut Power Plant
Clean energy plant explodes in Connecticut killing hundreds…
vapig wrote:
I guess it aint so clean now eh???
On the bright side, the snow banks have plenty to lend.
@ vapig:
That’s “Kleen Energy” as in the name of the company.
It’s a dual-fired (gas and oil) plant.
@ doriangrey:
Dear Lord, please don’t let it be sabotage.
Prayers for the victims…
fox just said there are injuries and maybe deaths.
there were about a hundred workers there…not hundreds of casualties
goddessoftheclassroom wrote:
My thoughts exactly, not that our current government would tell us if it were, unless they could blame it on the radical far right conservative TEA party people.
coldwarrior wrote:
Fox keeps saying mass casualties… Not sure what that means but it doesnt sound good…
doriangrey wrote:
I wonder what happened. I may be daft but when was the last time you heard of a power plant exploding?
We REALLY need to silence these “Global Warming Is Man Made!” folks so God stops sending one blizzard after another.
Have we had a week this winter when we WEREN’T getting a blizzard somewhere?
We’ve had two big ice/snow storms in Oklahoma so far, and a possiblity of another one tonight/tomorrow.
lobo91 wrote:
Thanks – they didn’t make that distinction.
@ vapig:
probably a leak related to the construction, caught fire and boom.
doriangrey wrote:
casualty is either injured and dead…not just dead
LanceKates wrote:
Yes! God will not be mocked!
These storms seem to hit you first and then come on over here. The your expecting tonight is going to hit us on Tuesday.
vapig wrote:
Yea, that struck me right away, I cant recall of ever hearing of a conventional power plant exploding.
From the Hartford Courant:
vapig wrote:
Sigh… This really has nothing to do with God, its just weather, weather fluctuates, some times it rains, sometimes it snow, and sometimes its hot. God doesnt cause natural disasters, he just uses the fact that they happen to change peoples hearts.
doriangrey wrote:
Hold on, junior. People were killed, and 100 were working there at the time. They didn’t say hundreds were killed.
doriangrey wrote:
It happens. Especially if there’s gas involved. This looks like a steam cycle plant, which, if you’re not careful, can explode the boiler.
snork wrote:
In the first place I’m not junior, and in the second I was just repeating what Fox was reporting when the story broke.
Just from what we know about the explosion: combined oil and gas tells me that it’s a steam plant. They probably have an interruptable gas contract, and use oil when the gas gets interrupted. Which might be now. That being the case, two things can cause an explosion like that: either the firebox lost fire and the fuel didn’t shut off, causing an explosion on reignition, or the steam portion had an explosion. The first is far more likely.
As with all major industrial accidents, I can guarantee one thing without knowing anything more about the situation: there was at least one, and probably several procedural short-cuts. These things don’t happen without human error (read: negligence). Period.
@ lobo91:
That’s a pretty pitiful website. Maybe we should connect them with that web designer in Culver City, CA.
@ doriangrey:
You are free to believe what you want as I am free to believe what I believe.
I understand the science behind weather as I also believe in the Great Scientist who created it.
snork wrote:
And just how many such explosions are you familiar with? Cause I aint never heard of one exploding.
Just popping in for a quick “good morning” (if you are on the west coast, like me) or “good afternoon” to the rest of you.
Like Grimcargo, I really don’t care who wins the Superbowl, just want it to be a good game. I have already prepared my pico de gallo and chips, will make guacamole in a little bit, and my scads of chicken wings are marinading and ready for the oven; I’ve got my blue cheese dressing I made from scratch, and taking it all over to my brother’s to watch the game and eat, drink and be merry. He’s in charge of coming up with a suitable margarita-type of drink.
RE: explosion at the power plant – any way you look at it, it’s a bad deal for the people there. My prayers are with them. I’m sure it was scary and did much damage.
GOTC – sorry I slept in through the prayer blog (I know, but it’s Sunday), but thanks and a blessed, Superbowl-size Sunday to all!
doriangrey wrote:
I’m sure they happen and have been more locally reported. The last spectacular one I remember happened in Texas (?) involving a rocket fuel plant.
OT: (if one can be on this thread).
First I want to apologize if this comment “hijacks” the thread, however because I often hear this question asked almost weekly, when I found this article, I knew it was too good to pass up.
Almost every time Obama, or a liberal, does something Anti-Israel, or ignores (or encourages) blatant Anti-Semitism, someone will ask the same question: “How do Jews continue to vote for Democrats?”
The short answer is that they don’t, Liberals do. This article bolsters this as it shows that a huge majority of Orthodox Jews never voted for Obama, and never would.
So, what separates these Orthodox Jews from say Rahm Emanuel?: That answer is easy – Judaism!
vapig wrote:
Rocket fuel is a far cry from a conventional power plant.
He has an account on LGF, right?
Dorian and Snork – ok guys… (can’t we just be friends?)
Gotta run! Play nice!
@ savages_girl:
sounds like good food, good booze and a good time.
@ doriangrey:
We are in a drought here because of El Niño,
Previous El Niño Years
1902-1903 1905-1906 1911-1912 1914-1915
1918-1919 1923-1924 1925-1926 1930-1931
1932-1933 1939-1940 1941-1942 1951-1952
1953-1954 1957-1958 1965-1966 1969-1970
1972-1973 1976-1977 1982-1983 1986-1987
1991-1992 1994-1995 1997-1998 2002-2003
2006-2007 2009-
AWG back in 1902? Sure Al……….
But yes, climate does change!
@ savages_girl:
Just ’cause I really like you two…
doriangrey wrote:
Just off the top of my head, there was the fired heater at Ashland oil that launched like a rocket and landed 100′ away. But that was a little heater compared to a 600 mW power plant.
As I said, it shouldn’t happen. Those things are interlocked seven ways from Christmas. If I had to guess, somebody bypassed a safety interlock with wire nuts. And yes, I’ve seen that done several times. And nickels put in the acknowledge buttons on the alarm annunciator, and…
@ coldwarrior:
#52 – if I was snowed in like you I’d be eatting all that by myself at home… oink, oink, oink…
10,000 quatloons to the person who frees my car from the snowdrift!
i really, really dont feel like shoveling more snow.
@ IslandLibertarian:
I was watching “Hot Shots!” the movie last night, which came out in 1991, and during a scene where one of the pilots during a training mission was about to take off, he stated that he had figured out the solution to……GLOBAL WARMING……but would have to tell his GF about it when he got back of course.
I was shocked that the hysteria of “the sky is falling” was even being pushed back in 1991 where it would have to have been enough of a buzz word to be used as a joke in a movie.
The first rule of “end of the world” scenarios is not to pick a date certain.
@ doriangrey:
you do know I was being sarcastic, right?
snork wrote:
sounds probabl.
if it is that case, whoever did it needs to do very, very hard time
@ doriangrey:
Of course, Muslims would disagree with you on that point.
They believe in a very active deity, who basically causes everything that happens. If a Muslim drops a pen, it falls to the floor because Allah willed it, not because of gravity.
They also believe that natural disasters are sent by Allah to punish the wicked.
Not sure how they reconcile that belief with the string of natural disasters that have hit the Islamic world in recent years, though. Maybe Allah’s aim is off a bit?
they are saying a gas pipe exploded, thats rubbish because a pipe full of gas cant explode, there has to be a mix of air and gas.
@ WrathofG-d:
Rush debated Al Gore back when he was “Senator Gore” about global warming. Even then Al Gore was all “End of the World” about it.
WrathofG-d wrote:
Either that, or make it so far in the future that you can’t be held accountable. Do you suppose there’s a reason why 2100 is the year that the IPCC projections target?
@ lobo91:
God can, but that doesn’t mean that He does.
Biblically, God makes it known when He does such a thing, and it is normally destructive enough to wipe out a town or even the world.
@ justin case:
there was construction, I’m betting on some sort of leak that caught fire.
@ LanceKates:
When I attended American University’s Lobbying Institute program back in 1998, global warming was the topic of our group projects.
I realized that it was all a scam back then.
@ LanceKates:
yeah thats nearly always the reason, the gas pressure in those pipes is constantly monitored, if there is a sudden drop, cut off valves operate.
there are so many levels of safety.
@ coldwarrior:
I could rattle off some incident investigations I’ve been involved in, but they’re all so detailed, you really don’t want to do it here. That’s why I said that multiple violations are most likely. These systems can usually forgive one sin.
I remember in particular the time we literally blew the roof off of a vented caustic storage tank with a steam hose. Fortunately nobody was hurt, but it made a sound like the world was coming to an end. But you really don’t want to get me started with these “army stories”.
@ lobo91:
just release the ban on CFC’s that was going to cause global cooling…. they’ll cancel each other out now.
(glad I could help, I’ll send my bill.)
LanceKates wrote:
The website says that it was under construction, but I have my doubts that there were 100 construction workers there on a Sunday morning. Let’s mark that “maybe”.
LanceKates wrote:
Didnt catch the sarcasm, my bad….
In order to believe the hysteria today, you have to ignore this.
The Earth does what it does whether or not I drive an SUV
The Medieval Warm Period (MWP) or Medieval Climate Optimum was a time of warm climate in the North Atlantic region, lasting from about AD 800–1300, that may also have been related to other warm and cool anomalies around the world during that time.
@ snork:
No, I don’t think that the construction workers did it, something may have happened friday or maybe some OT on saturday that caused a tiny leak that built up. It finally went off today.
I’d believe that more readily than nearly any other idea about how an in tact gas line could catch fire.
the way people are describing the explosion like an earth quake ect.
i bet my boots its a gas-air explosion, the puzzling thing is why the leak sensors never picked it up as there would have to be a large build up of gas.
LanceKates wrote:
And the gas sensors didnt catch the leak way before it was explosive? We have gas sensors for our autoclaves and ovens where I work that scream bloody murder at 1 part per 2,000,000… We cant even drive a propane forklift around them or the unburnt propane in the forklifts exhaust sets it off.
Chunky Chuckie has another Palin bashing blog going.
The un Mata Hari was be so proud of the constant misogyny.
@ m:
OT
M,
Take a peek at #208 on the TeaBagCon thread across the street from yesterday, ‘it’ divulged all of the vile and stomach contents, much as Dolphins(mahi) do when hooked, on that one post.
The only difference is that ‘it’ just jumped in the boat voluntarily.
coldwarrior wrote:
You should have done what I did, i.e., married a Yankee man and borne two sons! All I have to do is make hot chocolate and clean up all the wet clothes!
wolfie wrote:
Ah… Misusing and abusing those sneaky womanly wiles of yours eh?? lol…lol…lol…
Whoa… Sarah Palin on FoxNews right now with Chris Wallace…
@ doriangrey:
You bet!
@ doriangrey:
What do you think caused it then?
@ PENDAJO:
I think it’s funny how they don’t see a difference between someone speaking from notes and someone reading a speech off a teleprompter, that’s written out word-for-word (and was written by someone else).
@ LanceKates:
My guess? They were testing the firing controls, and “needed” to bypass an interlock to test something. To get a really violent gas explosion, it needs to be contained. Methane is lighter than air and won’t puddle on the ground. That’s why I think it was in the firebox. And when one of those blows, it sends metal and bricks flying.
wolfie wrote:
i am finished with the shoveling…no one took me up on the 10,000 quatloon offer.
no sons yet, just a napping 1yr old daughter. she informed me that she doesn’t shovel snow
@ coldwarrior:
I didn’t shovel after this last snow a week or two ago. I needed the snow to give me some traction on the ice beneath it.
We’ll see what happens tonight/tomorrow.
doriangrey wrote:
If they have a sensor system at all (this piping was probably outdoors), it may not have been commissioned yet. Commissioning is a dangerous time, because often they are improvising things because other things aren’t ready yet. Not a time to leave your wits back at the office.
LanceKates wrote:
I dont know, but considering that the head of US National Security just said that a major terrorist act in the United States is a near certainty in the next 3 to 6 months I am seriously skeptical of our government being honest regarding what did cause this explosion.
LanceKates wrote:
oh that sux!
i guess when we get an epic fail democrat in office (like carter was) we get the winters from the carter era to go along with the misery…
misery…remember the ‘misery index’?
@ doriangrey:
Eh, too small to be a terrorist attack in my opinion.
Besides, they’d want to hit when the plant was full of people, that’d be during the week, late morning to early afternoon…. not on a sunday morning.
I’m with snork, some sort of accident related to the construction.
@ snork:
Kleen Energy uses natural gas, not methane, natural gas is heavier than air and does pool.
coldwarrior wrote:
before my time, I’m afraid. By the time I could remember things, Reagan was president (I was born in august of 79).
my ‘formative years’ had President Reagan as the Pres….. maybe that is why I still hold the office with some sort of honor, unlike our current president.
WrathofG-d wrote:
I would bet you’d find a very similar situation with Catholics. Those who attend church regularly and especially those who hold to the traditional Faith would have been least likely to support Obama. Those who are only “cradle Catholics,” those who want to change Catholicism into the Church-That’s-Happening-Now, those who like to join “social justice” groups but don’t go to Mass, are the kind of “Catholics” that would vote for the O.
@ LanceKates:
Yup. Al Qaeda’s into killing the infidels, not property damage.
If it was any sort of terrorist attack, I’d suspect the freaks from ELF before Muslims.
@ LanceKates:
the first pres i really remember was just a hint of ford.
Wallace is using the Socratic method & badgering her.
LanceKates wrote:
I just cant get my mind inside the head of a terrorist to know what would constitute an acceptable target, save that they seem to prefer soft targets, and a conventional power plant probably is a pretty soft target.
Dont get me wrong here, I dont think this was a terrorist act, I am just very cynical and skeptical of this administration being capable of telling America the truth if it should prove to have been a terrorist attack.
doriangrey wrote:
Sorry, but natural gas is methane.
@ goddessoftheclassroom:
I’d be more then happy to give you the Kansas City Cheaps as a consolation prize.
I’m not geographically bound. I cheer for players I like. Granted, the teams I dislike I’d dislike even when they have players I admire.
Even as the passion of the game builds, I remind myself that these guys are way over paid.
In the last couple of years we have seen a substantial chunk of our bretheren lose their jobs. How many people have the NFL laid off?
Or for that matter Hollywood?
I will enjoy the game, but they are still over paid entertainers.
@ doriangrey:
Depends on the terrorist.
The goal of our main enemy, Islamists, is to sow terror in the hearts of infidels. You do that by killing people, not blowing up industrial facilities.
Eco-terrorists, on the other hand, like to blow up property they consider offensive. Their message is, “If you build it, we’ll destroy it.”
lobo91 wrote:
Al Queda is into causing fear uncertainty and doubt, any attack that might have that reaction is what they would do, remember, they gleefully took credit for the weenie bomber… Who only managed to blow his own weenie off…
doriangrey wrote:
natural gas is lighter then air, Propane is heavier. When I was a fire fighter, and we woulg go out to gas explosions from faulty furnaces, if the roof blew off, it was natural gas, and if the foundation, or basement windows blew out it was propane.
@ LanceKates:
@ coldwarrior:
I was an Eisenhower baby….
which is very odd, given that I am only 39.
@ JeremyR:
a little disagreement: they arent over paid. they are paid what the market will bear in a capitalist economy.
direct your anger at government and the employee numbers there, they dont lay off or cut pay as often as the private sector does…why is that.
JeremyR wrote:
OH!
thx, i never knew that.
wolfie wrote:
amazing! you have figured out how to warp time itself!
@ doriangrey:
Yes, but his goal was to kill the people on the plane (and hopefully even more on the ground). Destroying the plane was a means to that end.
What happened to the airlines after 9/11? People were afraid to fly, because they didn’t want to be next.
Attacking hotels, or shopping malls, or other public, soft targets, makes sense if you’re trying to cause that reaction.
Blowing up a conventional powerplant doesn’t (a nuke plant, on the other hand, would, because of the radioactive contamination that would result).
It would be interesting to know if any RoPers work there.
@ JeremyR:
Do you have any idea how many jobs created, how many products sold, how much commerce, how many businesses profiting just by the performance of these “over payed” athletes today?
It’s called FREE ENTERPRISE. And it made that computer you have affordable enough for you to buy. Thank God for successful people.
Enjoy the game.
coldwarrior wrote:
And that’s even when you have “proper” installation with all C3 appliances. Where natural gas isn’t available, some people so that, but if you’re going away on vacation, you should shut the tank off, and while you’re there, be very aware of smells. I would imagine it’s possible to train a dog to smell the odorant and wake everyone up. Dog’ll smell it long before any people will.
Ahh, wings and chili are simmering, beers are in the fridge, Celtics game is just about to tip-off and the Big Game is only 4 hours away. Nice.
I’m just guessing that he means that the dog shares his Kennel Rations with him.
Power plant with construction activity, I’d say the odds of terrorism are less than 10%. Never attribute to malice what can be more easily explained by mismanagement.
RIX wrote:
I think what he means it that he lives in constant fear that Trig Palin is stalking him, and he’s glad the dog is keeping the fearsome Trig Monster away.
Lincolntf wrote:
sounds great!
my bro usually throws a huge party for this but he is without electrics so its canceled. wife and daughter and i will watch from home this year.
My bet on the explosion would be an accident. The place has Natural gas piped in, and if a line were damaged, given the cold, the vapors would have time to accumulate before reaching an ignition source.
If an underground line is damaged, the vapors will permeate the soil which filters off the chemical addative that gives it the rotten egg smell.
I just took a class, part of which was an over view of recent failures resulting from escavation or boring. Since I’m run backhoe and such, I’m expected to take those annually. Every year it a collage of bad accidents from arround the nation.
Possibly terrorism, but not highly likely.
Also, given the extreme cold conditions its possible that freezing caused enough displacement to break a fitting some where. Thats a danger always where piping penetrates fro mbelow the frost line.
lobo91 wrote:
I dont know, a blast powerful enough to be felt 10 to 20 miles away seems to me must have required far more gas than could have built up in a firebox malfunction. I think we must be looking at some kind of major gas line rupture and a very serious failure of the gas sensors that should have caught it and shut down the gas flow.
All indications so far suggest that the explosion did take place inside a building, so snorks theory probably has considerable merit to it, I’m just not ready to rule anything out at this point in time.
RIX wrote:
he wears his psuedo disability like a badge, he uses it to gain the attention in life that he knows he deserves but failed to garner.
i have a distant relative who acts exactly like this man-cato ass.
snork wrote:
makes sense.
By Jove, I think that you have got it.
@ JeremyR:
Yea, that seems to me to be the most likely explanation I have heard so far.
I’m confused. I’m totally lost. Why is the chunky blogger quoting Pat Buchanan?
Is he rehabilitated now?
He’s a professional victim. The only disability that he has is a black heart.
@ IslandLibertarian:
I will enjoy the game, I always do. It just strikes me that as we tighten our belts to meet our needs with a shrinking budget and increasin costs, how we still shell out the bucks for entertainment without fail. Avatar is set to become the highest grossing film, in fact I believe it already has. That in a time when the economy is severely flagged.
Yes, its a capatilist society that does that. Keep in mind (lsee so with the athletes, more so with entertainers) what you are funding. I select my movies based on the ploitics of the actors. I will not go to a Sean Penn or Danny Glover anything.
I’m not angry, far from it. I just shake my head that in tough times, we still demand our entertainment.
snork wrote:
as someone said last night:
maybe he is slowly leading everyone back to the right, just for fun!
snork wrote:
Pee U….. snork has been trolling the bog of eternal stench…. Dont sniff your fingers snork…
@ JeremyR:
The gas won’t freeze, but if water collects in a low spot, it might. Often weather contributes to these things, but the plant should be built for it. And I don’t think CT got any of the snow storm, so it isn’t because they have mobility problems.
Again, this shouldn’t happen in normal operation.
@ lobo91:
That one post though, #208 is a ‘tired’ operative with ‘foot into mouth’ disease.
I just cannot see how honest posters can hang around and associate with such individuals, knowing fully well what it entails.
I fully understand that we are just armchair warriors, but to cowtow, look the other way and accept the abuse being dished out is to me a stamp of approval.
doriangrey wrote:
Sibiria and Germany ?
@ JeremyR:
the movie industry during the great deression was gangbuster huge money.
people need an escape, we cant live in the reality 24/7…that wold be horrible and boring, thats why we need entertainment. its healthy for the mind.
I never really got into it with Cato over at the kiddie table, but I do remember his ‘discriminated out of doing jury duty” tale of woe. Such a nasty, needy little man.
@ snork:
I agree.
Besides, if al Qaeda were behind it, they would have issued a statement already taking credit for it.
@ RIX:
“As a tribute to the dog that saves my life every day.” Sigh. It doesn’t take a shrink to figure out what that shell of a man has the dog around for.
P.S.
I hope it runs away.
@ JeremyR:
In tough time more than any other time because we need to be distracted from how bad things are or we wouldnt be able to survive…
“In her interview with Fox News, she quoted … get ready for it … Pat Buchanan.”
He is just trying to tie her to Buchanan.
snork wrote:
waitaminute…buchanan has been seen in the company of white nationalists and racists…chuckyj is a racists and white nationalist for siting buchanan!
howd i do?
@ doriangrey:
A building would be a likely place for natural gas to accumulate no matter where the rupture. The building would trap it like a balloon. Gas will migrate through the soil. We saw that with hte explosions here in Kansas when an underground storage area, a salt mine had a leak. the gas was leaking up every where, but could only accumulate in houses. Any whre else it just went up into the atmosphere.
makes me wonder, if enoug were to accumulate, and say, form a cloud, could a shuttle launce ignite it? Would make one heck of a scenario for a thriller movie for those over paid hollyweird types I’m complaining about.
I agree “Free Huko, free Bo Obama! No Justice no peace.
@ RIX:
Funny how that’s a huge issue, but the fact that half of Obama’s inner circle routinely quotes Mao while making public speeches doesn’t mean anything.
Guggi wrote:
Umm, yea my Russian and German are a bit rusty (as in dont speak either language), cant quite keep up with the news there unless it gets translated…
“Siberia”
I’m really speculating way too much, but if you look at the picture of the power plant, The big building in the middle has the turbines and generators, and the two boxy things with smokestacks behind the building are the boilers. The structure at the rear with all the fans are the cooling towers.
The boilers themselves are outdoors, but it’s not clear from the picture if the burners are inside the building or not. If they are, there could be gas piping inside the building, and if there is, that opens another possibility.
Can’t really tell any more from that pic.
@ doriangrey:
LOL, I know, I’m just pointing it out.
Time to walk the dog. Then I need to get my game face on & warm up my arm , just in case either Manning or Breeze go down.
Later Gators.
Holy cats I used to live and work in Middletown.Prayers for the victims.
Colts by two.
RIX wrote:
ROTFLMAO………. Ya sure…
RIX wrote:
stretch first!
Scratch that last comment. It appears that the plant that was finally built is rather different. The boilers appear to be completely outdoors, but it’s hard to be completely sure.
Bingo!!! I was right.
“They were doing some kind of testing, we don’t know what kind, but something obviously went wrong and there was a large explosion,” said Middletown Police Sgt. Chuck Jabobeucci.
Neener, neener.
@ snork:
snork gets the attaboy!
good call.
@ JeremyR:
During the Great Depression, people found escape from their worries in the movie theaters all over the country. The film industry flourished, as any successful business should.
So it’s happening again. But we are the richest, best fed, most well equipped depressed nation on earth.
The alternative is unthinkable.
Now, who do I think is overpaid? Bullshit Government Programs that try to bring parity to the country.
I’ll continue to buy the E-Ticket. And I’ll be discriminating with who I buy from.
@ PENDAJO:
And with that, folks, I will drop it.
I am not surprised that nobody scolded my running on about the subject.
The posters here, after all, are the cream of what once was. Thanks.
In appreciation,
An old man goes into a drug store to buy some Viagra
‘Can I have 6 tablets, cut in quarters?’
‘I can cut them for you’ said Dan the pharmacist ‘
but a quarter tablet will not give you a full erection. ‘
‘I’m 96′ said the old man.
‘I don’t want an erection, I just want it sticking out far enough
so I don’t pee on my slippers!!!
@ PENDAJO:
funny
snork wrote:
Some kind of testing of the fire ignition system, but what failed and why? And why didnt the gas sensors warn them of the vast amount of gas accumulating?
Droppin by for a little bit. Had to post this! We can’t even enjoy the Super Bowl without the narcissist in chief shining the spotlight on him!!!!!!
OT:
What a “peace agreement” with Israel means to the Muslims: Who is Preventing Temple Mount Walkway Completion? Jordan!
@ teacake:
What an azz tho he has plenty of media enablers.I am sick of hearing his drone, big tune out.
teacake wrote:
why? why…why must they ruin a perfectly good APOLITICAL event with this shit.
@ PENDAJO:
coldwarrior wrote:
in Omerica, all revolves around the dear leader first!
@ coldwarrior:
Thanks, Warrior.
@ WrathofG-d:
so that would be like canada complaining that a boardwalk was put up in front of the hotels in niagra falls on the us side…
i’m not going to type what i really feel about these mussies.
@ teacake:
No pregame for me! Thanks for the heads up!
doriangrey wrote:
What gas sensors? Boilers don’t have “gas sensors”, they have flame sensors. A gas sensor in a boiler would be pretty pointless, since there’s normally a fire going on in there.
I’d say a firebox explosion is still the most likely thing, but there are still some other things it could have been. But most likely, somebody jumpered the flame sensor for some reason, and then somebody else diddled with a valve, and…
@ teacake:
Well, its the super bowl so t must be about him.
Rorschach wrote:
i saw this kind of behavior in east germany over and over again, that was part of the ‘system’. this narcissist in chief has a real mental problem.
@ Dolphin:
espn for the pregame.
loosing viewers CBS
Thought you all might like the warning! LOL He is freaking unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!
@ snork:
I’m guessing you know this stuff better than me, but the size of the explosion seems inconsistent with your explanation to me.
I found about that story at atlas shrugs…. which has the most unbelievably arrogant picture of him in the oval office. Has there ever been a pix of any POTUS with his feet on top of the desk?
teacake wrote:
thank u!
better get some of those voodoo practitioners moving on improving the saints defense tonight, they are only 25th ranked.
Putting this together with the aerial, it looks like a firebox explosion.
teacake wrote:
i want to say johnson, i think
So I was going to say that CBS has lost me for their entire pre-game coverage package, but now I think they “own” all the pre-coverage. I don’t see any of the cable channels listing anything that sounds “pre-game” related. ESPN/2 has poker/bowling/ladies b-ball lined up.
Fucking Obama is gonna force his way into my house again, isn’t he?
@ coldwarrior:
Oohh, good idea. Just made a batch (blender) of margaritas, have the salad made for early dinner. Getting ready to start on the garlic/rosemary potatoes and get the Grubrub on the NY strips for the grill.
Lincolntf wrote:
the bastards!
is there no escaping this man?
@ Lincolntf:
@ Dolphin:
while the 0 is on its a good time to load the dishwasher, make some drinks, reload the snacks, anything but watch the 0 force himself into somewhere he he has no business.
Oh well, I’m off to do an hour or two of work and then I’ll be back for beer, food and football!
Go Saints!
@ snork:
Boilers have a controled sequence for start up. There is usually a t-5 hold while the boiler is evacuated to remove any gas that is present. If something happened to cause a failure, its possible there was no purge of fuel. or if there was a screw up on the ignition side, it could have filled with gas before there was ignition.
What is supposed to happen is a start up automatic check, the n the five minute purge, then ignitors are fired, then secondary fuel is introduced. Once flame is detected, the primary fuel valve opens and ignition takes place. Once the sensors report ignition, every thing is go, but if there is no flame sensing in the first ten or fifteen seconds it goes to a lock out, then after timing out the firing sequence is repeated.
I used to fire a million HP boiler every sunday night. Some times it would fault, and we would spend hours trouble shooting. One coworker knew how to bypass some of the safeties. I like to be about two counties over when he did that.
teacake wrote:
ya know, it would be ok with me if he had his feet up, as long as everything else was going well (and he didnt scuff the desk).
but everything is not going ok here in the US, well, it is going great for him if his plan was to destroy the US and make us socialists.
Spicy Thai burgers with thick slices of grilled Spanish onion, Yukon Gold steak fries on the grill, ummm ummm ummm.
coldwarrior wrote:
Actually, the morning radio show had a voodoo priestess on Friday who put a curse on the Colts! That they suffer gastrointestinal and much passing of gas! LOL
http://www.courant.com/community/middletown/hc-middletown-ct-power-plant-explosion,0,3952195.story
Blowing down is blowing at high velocity to clean the crud out. No idea how they do that with nat. gas, but if it’s purging (instead of blowing down) to get rid of the air, they’re supposed to use nitrogen first. If they didn’t do that properly, they could have gotten an air/gas mixture. Ungood.
@ vagabond trader:
yumm
@ coldwarrior:
MUTE works for me! Chores are all done!
@ JeremyR:
@ snork:
so, this was a mini-air burst bomb like how the MOAB works.
@ teacake:
gastrointestinal suffering and much gas…that sounds like monday morning!
@ teacake:
There are a number, including one of Bush. I also think there was one of Reagan, but not sure.
They all do it. heck if they had had pictography in the 1700s I bet they would have one of washington with his feet up.
wow, the hits just KEEP on coming
It’s not just the threat of Himalayan glaciers disappearing by 2035.Now another headline grabbing IPCC scare story is melting away. A report in Sunday’s London Times highlights new humiliations for the IPCC.
The most important is a claim that global warming could cut rain-fed north African crop production by up to 50% by 2020, a remarkably short time for such a dramatic change. The claim has been quoted in speeches by Rajendra Pachauri, the IPCC chairman, and by Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary-general.
There is however one teensy-weensy little problem. As Professor Chris Field, the lead author of the IPCC’s climate impact team has now told reporters that he can find “no evidence” to support the claim in the IPCC’s 2007 report
uhh….ooopps?
There’s more. When the glacier story broke, IPCC apologists returned over and over again to a saving grace. The bogus glacier report appeared in the body of the IPCC document, but not in the much more carefully vetted Synthesis Report, in which the IPCC’s senior leadership made its specific recommendations to world leaders. So it didn’t matter that much, the apologists told us, and we can still trust the rigorously checked and reviewed Synthesis Report.
But that’s where the African rain crisis prediction is found — in the supposedly sacrosanct Synthesis Report.
quick…someone tell von quackquack
coldwarrior wrote:
Yes and no, the explosion from all accounts was an air burst of sorts, but larger than a MOAB, it’s concussion wave was felt 10 to 20 miles away.
teacake wrote:
I guess he will be quoting people who have said he’s “cool” and “neat.”
I’m starting to get Obama Glom. Will he ever stop making everything abt. himself and forcing it on us? ?
He’s a fcking pest.
@ JeremyR:
Thanks, just wondering. So, can’t really comment then since he isn’t the only one.
doriangrey wrote:
oh my. thats a lot of energy.
@ coldwarrior:
From the sounds of it, the MOAB would be Mini Ordinace Air Burst against this one.
We can speculate until the cows come home and not get it right.
Whats that?
Mooo ? mooo.
Cows here!
@ rain of lead:
i am loving this unraveling.
a libtard friend of mine owes me hundreds of dollars from a bet we made about this ‘agw’ crap years ago. i havent heard from him in a while…
@ teacake:
There’s the video of Clinton, but that isn’t his feet!
@ chickadee:
It is every d@m day, that’s what gets me!
@ coldwarrior:
bwahahahahah
heh… give him a call….heh hehe
JeremyR wrote:
Nobody likes a snitch, but if somebody does that, you really should inform supervision. It’s not just his own life that he’s putting in jeopardy. There should be zero tolerance for that, and if the union tries to defend him, f*** the union.
If the equipment is inoperable, that’s management’s problem. Nobody should take on the responsibility of operating an unsafe plant. That’s like a taxi company telling a driver to drive a cab with no brakes. But in my experience, when somebody bypasses the interlocks, it’s usually not because the plant isn’t operable, but because the idjit doesn’t know how it’s supposed to work. The analogy to that would be a taxi driver who doesn’t put the parking brake on because he doesn’t want to look for the damn thing.
JeremyR wrote:
Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb, the blu-82
kinda like the daisy cutter from the 60′s
rain of lead wrote:
he’ll get more than a call.
there were many witnesses to this bet.
Dolphin wrote:
the cult of personality must be fed.
@ vagabond trader:
Thanks, Trader.
coldwarrior wrote:
Concussion waves can cause serious injury. wow. felt up to 20 miles away. How terrible.
People too close can have brain damage, hearing loss. Prayers for all the injured.
@ snork:
The first time I mentioned it, it was a he said vs me siad sort of deal and he had seniority on me by quite a few years.
Eventually he got fired, but not for that.
file this under: oh snap
GOP fires back: White House did not tell us about reading Abdulmutallab his rights
gee, who’s lying here
@ coldwarrior:
If you say so – lol. I just wish he would shut up and quit doing anything!
Yeah, where is Al Gore and the other Husky One?
moab
Dolphin wrote:
Yes. Isn’t there some one in his cabal who can tell him that he is risking over exposure?
The arrogant face, the donkey smile, the jug ears, the grating voice spewing the self congratulatory drivel.
He’s a fcking joke.
On “Meet the Press,” Brennan said that on Christmas night, just hours after Abdulmutallab tried to blow up Northwest Airlines flight 253, Brennan called GOP Senators Mitch McConnell and Christopher Bond, as well as Republican Representatives John Boehner and Peter Hoekstra, and told them that Abdulmutallab was in FBI custody. “None of those individuals raised any concerns with me at that point,” Brennan said. “They didn’t say, Is he going into military custody? Is he going to be Mirandized?”
Here’s something else they didn’t say:
“Are you going to completely fuck this up and just let the bastard go?” Since they didn’t ask that, would that be OK?
kansas wrote:
the kids made a nice plump snowman…i call him the husky snow-blogger.
@ coldwarrior:
Yea, that’s why I keep questioning snorks hypothesis regarding it being a firebox explosion. It really seems like there must have been a ruptured line that filled the main building up with gas and that gas exploded while they were testing the fire ignition system.
JeremyR pointed out that if the gas line rupture occurred underground the minerals in the soil would have stripped the mercaptan from the gas rendering it odorless, thus making the only possibility of it’s being detected gas sensors, which as snork points out Kleen Energy may not have believed needed to be inside the building because the burners were outside.
I did notice on the google image snork posted that the gas lines do appear to go underground just before entering the burners although they do appear to be above ground every where else.
Hello all. I got no dog in this game, but another Lt. Commander in my Unit is from New Orleans so I promised her I would root for her Saints and would like to see the party New Orleans will throw if they win anyway.
chickadee wrote:
the more exposure he craves and gets the lower his poll numbers drop.
i am willing to put up with over exposure for that
@ chickadee:
Wonder if they make potus strength RAID.
coldwarrior wrote:
Build one of Sarah Palin across from that one and see if the head explodes.
Drive by post. Here is my house over the weekend. Just got power back on after 30 hours!
coldwarrior wrote:
Still not enough information. The reports about it having to do with “blowdown” suggest that this wasn’t a firebox explosion and didn’t have anything to do with interlocks. It sounds more like a lockout/tagout/blanking failure, which means it might be an open air explosion (in which case the gas must have been belching out somewhere) or they put gas into a tank that already had air in it, and blew the tank to smithereens. Sounds like they were trying to get the air out of the system, and screwed it up.
@ doriangrey:
i suppose we will find out pretty soon.
Here he comes looking for donuts. Sharmie fell off the back…
NoThreat2U wrote:
The bathroom must have been a real ig-loo.
@ NoThreat2U:
hey!!! glad you made it back to the 21st century
we were no power for 19 hours.
coldwarrior wrote:
What a price to pay! It is worth it though.
Hello all getting ready to hit the hard rock to watch the game!
NoThreat2U wrote:
Glad your power is back. That’s beautiful but GOOD GRIEF
Rodan wrote:
Hey Rodan nice to see you
The hateful-wingnut-fascist-creationist ad that was designed to send women back into the Dark Ages is now up for viewing at Hot Air. Oh the horror! Please watch with extreme caution, as it is Bad Crazy™ !
I guess people are getting a white black history month.
I wonder what Irving Berlin would do with that…
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Sometimes it sucks being a girl and having to sit on a cold toilet seat. I had the male warm it up for me first. lol
@ coldwarrior:
I got you beat……I went without for 30!
@ Grimcargo:
And yes, it was gorgeous.
Thank you
Rodan wrote:
whaddup, ya drunk!
@ NoThreat2U:
check your email
@ chickadee:
You forgot the upturned nose and condesending downward loooking eyes. Oh, and the need to bend forward at the waist.
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas on Sunday blamed U.S. President Barack Obama for delaying the resumption of Middle East peace talks by not standing firm on his demand to see a complete freeze in West Bank settlements.
In an interview with the German magazine Der Spiegel, Abbas said that he would not rescind his own stance on the matter. He added that the Palestinians expected Obama to convince Israel to announce a complete freeze, accusing the American administration of having changed its stance on the matter.
He told the daily that the optimism he had felt following Obama’s election had waned, and he was no longer satisfied with the American president’s performance
This is what happens when you elect ignorant arrogant assholes to the Presidency.
@ NoThreat2U:
Thats a dusting
@ Nevergiveup:
We could save a lot of time and money where Middle East talks are concerned by having Chatty Cathy dolls fill in for all the diplomacy. Just pull the string, and out come 11 different tired old retread statements!
@ Dolphin:
He only bows to froreign Potentates and city Mayors who are Democrats. He would never bow to the American p[eople, who are his servants and one day slaves…
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
If you’ve been reading the Israeli newspapers like I know you have the last 30 years, it’s all the same news. Only the names of the players have changed, and not all of them even.
Several hours after Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad announced his country’s atomic agency would begin producing higher enriched uranium, US Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Sunday it was time for the international community to rally together to put significant pressure on the Islamic republic to abandon its nuclear program.
“If the international community will stand together and bring pressure to bear on the Iranian government, I believe there is still time for sanctions and (diplomatic) pressure to work,” he told the Italian and US press following his meeting with Italian Defense Minister Ignazio La Russa.
I’d like to think Gates has been drinking but I know he is just an asshole
snork wrote:
According to JeremyR, blow-downs use nitrogen to clean out the gas lines, now the temperature in Middletown was well below freezing (only 27 degrees at 11:00am when the explosion took place) so I am thinking it very possible that the blow-down ruptured a frozen pipe and when they re-charged the line the gas traveled latterly underground and filled the building, what ignited it is still a bit of a mystery though.
@ Nevergiveup:
the time for sanctions and pressure is over.
Nevergiveup wrote:
No, Bobby. It was time to “put significant pressure” on the Iranians about 3 years ago. Since then, it’s been time to take out their centrifuges.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Oh dear… your poor house has been infested with GloBull warming… You’ll never get rid of the shit now…
oh now this is teh funny
Even as he accepted the resounding backing of the Pennsylvania Democratic state committee here Saturday, party-switching Sen. Arlen Specter’s vulnerability was on vivid display as he botched the name of a key Democratic officeholder in his acceptance speech.
“I’ll be fighting hard for the entire Democratic ticket. Senator Andy. . . Andy . . .” Specter said, before pausing briefly, squinting his eyes.
“From Chester County,” he continued, losing his train of thought after clinching an emphatic 229-72 U.S. Senate endorsement vote from party regulars just minutes earlier.
“Dinniman,” the crowd responded almost in unison, referring to the state senator who represents West Chester. One committeeman seated in the audience dropped his head and shook it
coldwarrior wrote:
Depends on how you define “pressure” If you say define in in kilo-tonnes or mega-tonnes then now does indeed seem to be the correct time to turn the pressure up…
This is special. You know the Russian military is in the shitter if they are buying ships from the French:
I wonder if this means the Russians are about to get into the fight against Greenpeace?
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
pressure and sanctions only work if there is the promise of force behind them
@ buzzsawmonkey:
@ Nevergiveup:
The Chatty Cathy idea really is a good one. When new leaders are elected you can just change the outfit, add/subtract a moustache here and there.
@ Iron Fist:
Or maybe they just decided they needed a warship with built in surrender capabilities???
@ coldwarrior:
Replied
@ BBEV:
Dusting my ass. lol
@ doriangrey:
If you watch the video you will hear my shout-out to Al Gore. lol
Iron Fist wrote:
Are the Russians gonna buy French rifles also? Ya know the ones that have never been fired and only dropped once?
@ doriangrey:
But there shouldn’t be any water in the pipe. And the N2 they use is a gas.
@ doriangrey:
u beat me to it!
Actually I should not be making fun of the Russians, hell they still have a space program.
Just spoke to my brother. He lives about 15 miles from the blast and heard it loud and clear.
Nevergiveup wrote:
They’ll buy AK-47s from China.
new open thread is up…for ease of loading et cetera.
Nevergiveup wrote:
We still has Hansen and crew at NASA.
just muted tv
0 is on
snork wrote:
What does water have to do with anything? It was 18 degrees over night, and only warmed up to 27 degrees by 11:00 am when the explosion took place. At those temperatures the metal in the gas lines become brittle, the pressure from the blow-down combined with the low temperatures was probably sufficient to rupture the gas line.
snork wrote:
Heh heh heh, not if Obummer has his way with the NASA budget. Hansen may have killed the space program with his Anthropogenic Global Warming crap…
NoThreat2U wrote:
You look like you’re having fun in all the global warming.
I’m glad you finally got your power on.
wolfie wrote:
I loved it.
doriangrey wrote:
Oh, Jesus Christ…
snork wrote:
Ya, the professionals on the scene don’t know what happened yet but you do…