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Fox News and Saudi Money and Glen Beck and Geert Wilders…

by coldwarrior ( 121 Comments › )
Filed under Free Speech, Islamic Finance, Media, Saudi Arabia at March 11th, 2010 - 5:00 am

This is an expansion of this thread from a few days ago, the Beck/Wilders clip is used as an example and to refresh our memory.

Fox is getting very picky about this Beck/Wilders clip so i wont post it here, Here’s the transcript of what Beck Said about Geert Wilders:

In France, polls have this guy, the president, Nicolas Sarkozy, he is center-right. He’s hitting now new lows. Look out, because whoever is ruling now in any country no matter what, as this economy tanks and they spend all this money and it doesn’t matter if they’re right or left, as they tank, they’re going to become extraordinarily unpopular. So his approval rating is down to 36 percent. However, this guy, far right, Villepin (sic) — he’s at 57 percent.

Also, you have far right Dutch M.P. Geert Wilders. Last year, he was banned from the U.K. They said his presence could threaten community a harmony and therefore public safety. Last week, not only was he allowed into England, he was at the House of Lords, where he screened a film on the Quran.

The right and left are growing again in Europe. The left — listen carefully — the left in Europe is communism. The right is fascism, in Europe.

Europe is making the same mistakes that they made at the turn of the century. Mark my words — watch, please, do me a favor. We don’t have enough staff to watch this and nobody else is looking for it. Please, watch the crazy fringe groups over in Europe and e-mail. Tweet them to me at Glenn Beck on Twitter. Please, watch them as a watchdog, because they’re headed down the wrong tracks and we have to be prepared.

This is Geert Wilders on Beck 25FEB2009, so Glenn is familiar with the situation and the man.

Well, what do we think about Beck now, does he get a pass on this one? Should he apologize? He has done good work in the past. Has Fox been ‘infiltrated’ by Saudi influence? I hope this Beck ‘error’ has nothing to do with this:

He’s a prince! He graduated summa cum laude from Menlo University in 1979! He’s the Saudi Warren Buffet! He’s also Fox News’ fourth biggest investor--although Prince Alwaleed bin Talal claims that he’s the second biggest investor in News Corp., after Rupert Murdoch himself

I am not throwing Beck or Fox under the dhimmi bus yet; his content, and that of Fox News, may have to be scrutinized from now on. I just cant help but think what better way for the Wahhabist Saudi’s to alienate and diminish Europe’s most famous anti-jihadi and to assassinate his character than to buy a piece of editorial control in America’s most popular TV news service.  I hope this is not the case. Fox has taken the Saudi money in exchange for access to the Middle East media.

The Wahhabi influence in university and mosques and the fact that almost all of the imam’s in the US (especially in the US prison system) are also Wahhabi-Saudi funded and are anti-west in values and politics are of major concern. This is a security threat that has to be watched carefully, this is how the teachings infiltrate out country.

Does this mean that the Saudi-Wahhabi money has influenced fox/beck…i’m not there yet, is it a concern, yes. Does it look bad, yes. I am very concerned over this because fox is watched by so many people, and is trusted by them. Fox is still the go-to news network for unbiased reporting. Its size and trust by definition means that it needs to be careful about alliances and editorial decisions.

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121 Responses to “Fox News and Saudi Money and Glen Beck and Geert Wilders…”
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  1. 1 | March 11, 2010 05:14

    I’d be interested to know if Beck is at all uneasy with having a Saudi overlord at FOX.


  2. RIX
    2 | March 11, 2010 05:19

    Beck does some good things & then displays ignorance.
    Wilders is no Facist. He extolls free markets & some very Libertarian values, he just opposes the movement to impose Sharia Law on Europe by unassimilated Islamic triumphalists.


  3. vagabond trader
    3 | March 11, 2010 05:21

    Approaching all msm with caution is the best policy imho.Is it coincidence that FOX rarely has any commentary or hard news re: jihad.


  4. coldwarrior
    4 | March 11, 2010 05:21

    i’ll give beck a pass on this, and keep this incident in close memory. i am far more concerned with the saudi influence on news corp.


  5. vagabond trader
    5 | March 11, 2010 05:22

    @ coldwarrior:

    i am far more concerned with the saudi influence on news corp.

    Same here.I like it not.


  6. coldwarrior
    6 | March 11, 2010 05:22

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Approaching all msm with caution is the best policy imho.Is it coincidence that FOX rarely has any commentary or hard news re: jihad.

    true, there.

    i will be looking at newscorp’s content a lot closer, its almost riot season in france.


  7. African Moondog
    7 | March 11, 2010 05:23

    Murdoch recently announced that news Corp would be opening big offices, (I do not think the Head Office) in Abu Dhabi. Then we find that some saudi “Prince” is a humongous investor and the initial symptoms of dhimmitude manifest themselves. A former jazz man must bge lovin’ it.


  8. vagabond trader
    8 | March 11, 2010 05:24

    @ coldwarrior:

    It is the wahabbi way, infiltrate schools, media, neighborhoods. Kind of retro commie with fanatic religion thrown in.


  9. coldwarrior
    9 | March 11, 2010 05:24

    @ African Moondog:

    newscorp is opening its middle east offices in abu dhabi. its a regional hq.


  10. rain of lead
    10 | March 11, 2010 05:26

    mornin folks
    got coffee, who needs some?


  11. rain of lead
    11 | March 11, 2010 05:26

    todays day by day

    http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/


  12. coldwarrior
    12 | March 11, 2010 05:26

    rain of lead wrote:

    mornin folks
    got coffee, who needs some?

    i’ll take mine as black as cthulu’s heart! please.

    :)


  13. Nevergiveup
    13 | March 11, 2010 05:27

    teacake wrote:

    I’d be interested to know if Beck is at all uneasy with having a Saudi overlord at FOX.

    There is no Saudi overlord at Fox


  14. coldwarrior
    14 | March 11, 2010 05:27

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    It is the wahabbi way, infiltrate schools, media, neighborhoods. Kind of retro commie with fanatic religion thrown in.

    yep…we will have to watch their content on islam stories very closely.


  15. coldwarrior
    15 | March 11, 2010 05:29

    @ Nevergiveup:

    yeah, i wouldnt say overlord just yet. we will see what their editorial content says next islamic ute riot or some such story


  16. rain of lead
    16 | March 11, 2010 05:30

    @ coldwarrior:
    here ya go, a big steaming mug of black and bitter


  17. coldwarrior
    17 | March 11, 2010 05:30

    @ rain of lead:

    thanks…


  18. 18 | March 11, 2010 05:31

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    teacake wrote:
    I’d be interested to know if Beck is at all uneasy with having a Saudi overlord at FOX.

    There is no Saudi overlord at Fox

    In 2005, Walid recounted his influence on the Fox News Channel’s coverage of Muslims during a panel at the Arab and World Media Conference in Dubai. He noted that during violent street protests in France, Fox News ran a banner at the bottom of the screen that said “Muslim riots.”

    “I picked up the phone and called Murdoch … [and told him] these are not Muslim riots, these are riots out of poverty,” Al-Walid said.

    “Within 30 minutes, the title was changed from Muslim riots to civil riots.”


  19. rain of lead
    19 | March 11, 2010 05:33

    @ teacake:

    nope, no saudi overlord there. :(


  20. Nevergiveup
    20 | March 11, 2010 05:34

    teacake wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    teacake wrote:
    I’d be interested to know if Beck is at all uneasy with having a Saudi overlord at FOX.

    There is no Saudi overlord at Fox

    In 2005, Walid recounted his influence on the Fox News Channel’s coverage of Muslims during a panel at the Arab and World Media Conference in Dubai. He noted that during violent street protests in France, Fox News ran a banner at the bottom of the screen that said “Muslim riots.”

    “I picked up the phone and called Murdoch … [and told him] these are not Muslim riots, these are riots out of poverty,” Al-Walid said.

    “Within 30 minutes, the title was changed from Muslim riots to civil riots.”

    The Saudi’s probably own a significant amount of stock in many US Companies. You and everyone else here is overreacting.


  21. coldwarrior
    21 | March 11, 2010 05:34

    @ teacake:

    i would like to see independent proof of that, i dont doubt it could have happened. i just wish their was a non sand-tick that would back it up…i dont take muslims at their word without external proof.


  22. coldwarrior
    22 | March 11, 2010 05:37

    @ Nevergiveup:

    like i said, i’m not throwing them under the bus yet, it just looks bad.

    summer is coming in europe, riot season is almost at hand…lets see how the coverage goes


  23. coldwarrior
    23 | March 11, 2010 05:38

    as for beck/wilders…beck is A.D.D. enough that he probably had a brain scramble…a retraction would be in order tho.


  24. 24 | March 11, 2010 05:39

    Beck is fighting for conservatism, Geert is fighting for the survival of the West. It’s no contest who I’ll throw under the bus.


  25. 25 | March 11, 2010 05:40

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    The Saudi’s probably own a significant amount of stock in many US Companies. You and everyone else here is overreacting.

    Right, like Saudi funded middle eastern study departments in most US universities.


  26. RIX
    26 | March 11, 2010 05:43

    Jesusland wrote:

    Beck is fighting for conservatism, Geert is fighting for the survival of the West. It’s no contest who I’ll throw under the bus.

    Wilders is risking everything. He is under constant verbal attack & has to have round the clock protecrtion.
    His safety issue is not Astro Turfed likse a glop of slop blogger in SoCal.
    You have to give Wildesr respect for his efforts.


  27. Nevergiveup
    27 | March 11, 2010 05:44

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    like i said, i’m not throwing them under the bus yet, it just looks bad.

    summer is coming in europe, riot season is almost at hand…lets see how the coverage goes

    Fox and The NY Post, which are both owned by the FOX Corp. are consistently pro-Israel, Anti-Iran, and Anti- Jihad. This is the same shit that was going around last year because Murdoch made a passing nice comment about Obama and everyone went beserk that he may back Obama. He didn’t and he is not being bought off now.


  28. African Moondog
    28 | March 11, 2010 05:45

    @ Nevergiveup:

    If they have enough influence to change the slant on a factual story with one telephone call, that is not over reacting, that is genuine concern.


  29. 29 | March 11, 2010 05:46

    teacake wrote:

    You and everyone else here is overreacting.

    And like the day after the 9 11 how Bush was surrounded by several saudi’s during a news conference.


  30. RIX
    30 | March 11, 2010 05:48

    @ teacake:
    Right, like Saudi funded middle eastern study departments in most US universities.

    “Respected” Universities have their hands out for Saudi cash & in return allow the Saudis to establish propaganda departments on campus.
    These “enlightened” institutions have no problem facilitating misogyny,
    anti semitism & anti Christianity.


  31. 31 | March 11, 2010 05:51

    RIX wrote:

    “Respected” Universities have their hands out for Saudi cash & in return allow the Saudis to establish propaganda departments on campus.

    Yeah, nothing to be concerned about.


  32. Nevergiveup
    32 | March 11, 2010 05:51

    The sky is falling, the sky is falling,!


  33. rain of lead
    33 | March 11, 2010 05:51

    hey, who’s up for some more fun with climategate?

    Climategate Stunner: NASA Heads Knew NASA Data Was Poor, Then Used Data from CRU

    Email messages obtained by the Competitive Enterprise Institute via a Freedom of Information Act request reveal that the climate dataset of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) was considered — by the top climate scientists within NASA itself — to be inferior to the data maintained by the University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit (CRU).

    The NASA scientists also felt that NASA GISS data was inferior to the National Climate Data Center Global Historical Climate Network (NCDC GHCN) database.

    These emails, obtained by Christopher Horner, also show that the NASA GISS dataset was not independent of CRU data.

    Further, all of this information regarding the accuracy and independence of NASA GISS data was directly communicated to a reporter from USA Today in August 2007.

    The reporter never published it.

    *gee, there are more of those damn pesky emails again*


  34. 34 | March 11, 2010 05:55

    The saudi influence reminds me of a story I heard about from a friend who lived in a small town. There was this very wealthy man who had major influence politically and financially – he molested young boys and no one would dare bring charges against the man. My friend told me that one of the boys was a friend of hers, and he ended up killing himself because not only would anyone help him, but he was attacked for making trouble for this “wonderful” man.


  35. coldwarrior
    35 | March 11, 2010 05:57

    @ Nevergiveup:
    @ Nevergiveup:

    well, the sky isnt falling, like i said, i’m not throwing them under the bus yet, but i will watch the content a lot closer now especially when it comes to all things islam and europe/counter-jihad.

    as for the saudi money in universities, that is gospel right there. these orgs are funded lock stack and barrel by saudi-wahhabi cash. that is prolly far more damaging than saudi money at fox.


  36. RIX
    36 | March 11, 2010 06:01

    teacake wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    “Respected” Universities have their hands out for Saudi cash & in return allow the Saudis to establish propaganda departments on campus.
    Yeah, nothing to be concerned about.

    Why do these Universities like the Saudis so much?
    Cash comes to mind right away, but there is more.
    The Saudis are anti U.S & anti Western in general.
    That fits right into the Faculty Lounge.


  37. 37 | March 11, 2010 06:01

    coldwarrior wrote:

    as for the saudi money in universities, that is gospel right there. these orgs are funded lock stack and barrel by saudi-wahhabi cash

    As well as all the mosques in Europe. I guess we just don’t understand the advantages of all of this./////


  38. rain of lead
    38 | March 11, 2010 06:02

    huh, another problem for nancy and obama

    Hispanic Caucus May Vote No On Healthcare Over Illegals

    A group of Hispanic lawmakers on Thursday will tell President Barack Obama that they may not vote for healthcare reform unless changes are made to the bill’s immigration provisions.

    “It’s still one of those issues that’s out there,” said Rep. Xavier Becerra (Calif.), the Democratic Caucus vice chairman and the only Hispanic member of House leadership

    The Senate language would prohibit illegal immigrants’ buying healthcare coverage from the proposed health exchanges. The House-passed bill isn’t as restrictive, but it does — like the Senate bill — bar illegal immigrants from receiving federal subsidies to buy health insurance

    They claim that while it may be politically popular in some parts of the country to ban illegal immigrants from using their own money to buy coverage, it is not good policy. Illegal immigrants will, one way or another, need medical attention in the United States, and it would be cheaper and more humane to provide them coverage if they pay for it. Otherwise, they will seek treatments in the nation’s emergency rooms, effectively increasing medical costs.


  39. coldwarrior
    39 | March 11, 2010 06:02

    @ rain of lead:

    i’ll add this to your comment:

    Americans’ Global Warming Concerns Continue to Drop


  40. 40 | March 11, 2010 06:03

    @ coldwarrior:
    creeping sharia


  41. citizen_q
    41 | March 11, 2010 06:03

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    @ Nevergiveup:
    like i said, i’m not throwing them under the bus yet, it just looks bad.
    summer is coming in europe, riot season is almost at hand…lets see how the coverage goes

    Fox and The NY Post, which are both owned by the FOX Corp. are consistently pro-Israel, Anti-Iran, and Anti- Jihad. This is the same shit that was going around last year because Murdoch made a passing nice comment about Obama and everyone went beserk that he may back Obama. He didn’t and he is not being bought off now.

    Perhaps you are correct. OTOH the jihad has many fronts. I view with suspicion muslime motives, especially when it involves an oil tick.

    I place little trust in MSM outlets, FOX included though FOX is usually head and shoulders better than most. There have been a few instances that might reveal possible pro islamic influence in reporting that are IMHO at least cause for concern. Gert Wilders, the car burning riots in Paris, that have already been mentioned. I also heard a FOX news report on the radio calling the new apartments in Jerusalem just announced reported illegal. Legally they may be disputed, but flatly stating they were illegal sounds like unfiltered quoting of a paleostinian press release.


  42. 42 | March 11, 2010 06:04

    @ rain of lead:

    Chop chop. the Democrats may get real acquainted with Revolution if they try to “pass” ObamaCare without a vote.


  43. RIX
    43 | March 11, 2010 06:05

    @ rain of lead:

    The problem may be the term “Illegal Immigrants”
    Perhps if they are just refered to as “Lightly packed tourists.”


  44. 44 | March 11, 2010 06:05

    Nevers relaxed attitude toward megabuck’s global muslim influence baffles me.


  45. citizen_q
    45 | March 11, 2010 06:06

    Speaking of saudi/muslime money and influence at universities, how did zero pay for his education? I have heard conspiracy theories about middle-eastern benefactors.


  46. rain of lead
    46 | March 11, 2010 06:07

    @ coldwarrior:

    yeah, hard to give two shits about agw when you are worried about losing your job and feeding your family.


  47. 47 | March 11, 2010 06:07

    @ citizen_q:
    Illegal settlements is what I keep hearing and reading. Interesting that the media never reports how Jews are leaving Europe in droves, or that the area’s Jews left in Israel might have something to do with the need for more homes and apartments… oops I mean illegal settlements.


  48. rain of lead
    48 | March 11, 2010 06:09

    RIX wrote:

    @ rain of lead:
    The problem may be the term “Illegal Immigrants”
    Perhps if they are just refered to as “Lightly packed tourists.”

    I dunno, you seen some of those smuggling cars?
    don’t think you could call them “lightly packed”


  49. Nevergiveup
    49 | March 11, 2010 06:09

    @ coldwarrior:
    I put Saudi money to University’s and investing in American Companies in 2 different catagories. What goes on in certian USA Schools worries me greatly- not so much anything at Fox News yet, other than I hate SHep and O’Reily


  50. Nevergiveup
    50 | March 11, 2010 06:11

    teacake wrote:

    Nevers relaxed attitude toward megabuck’s global muslim influence baffles me.

    It’s not relaxed. I am not just yet ready to go to the mattresses over unsubstantiated reports and gut feelings. When the NY Post writes an editorial endorsing an Iran Bomb or Hamas, call me.


  51. coldwarrior
    51 | March 11, 2010 06:11

    @ RIX:
    @ teacake:

    the wahhabi influence in university and mosques and the fact that almost all of the imam’s in the US (especially in the US prison system) are also wahhabi-saudi funded and are anti-west in values and politics are of major concern. this is a security threat that has to be watched carefully, this is how the teachings infiltrate out country.

    does this mean that the saudi-wahhabi money has influenced fox/beck…i’m not there yet, is it a concern, yes. does it look bad, yes. i am very concerned over this because fox is watched by so many people, and is trusted by them. it is still the goto news network for unbiased reporting. its size and trust by definition means that it needs to be careful about alliances and editorial decisions.


  52. RIX
    52 | March 11, 2010 06:11

    @ rain of lead:
    I dunno, you seen some of those smuggling cars?
    don’t think you could call them “lightly packed”

    True, I have to work on this.


  53. 53 | March 11, 2010 06:11

    @ citizen_q:
    There’s a black reverend whose name I forget at the moment who claims to have evidence that obama was a cia recruit, but it wasn’t geared toward his ending up a senator or president.


  54. 54 | March 11, 2010 06:13

    coldwarrior wrote:

    its size and trust by definition means that it needs to be careful about alliances and editorial decisions.

    Well said CW


  55. RIX
    55 | March 11, 2010 06:13

    @ coldwarrior:

    Yeah, I am nowhere near ready to break bad on Fox.
    They are by far the most honest outlet’


  56. Nevergiveup
    56 | March 11, 2010 06:13

    teacake wrote:

    Jews are leaving Europe in droves, or that the area’s Jews left in Israel might have something to do with the need for more homes and apartments… oops I mean illegal settlements.

    Well I am not at all sure about in droves and there are plenty of A) Apartments in Israel Proper- with in the green lines & B) plenty of open space to build more if needed. There is no need to make up excuses for building outside the Green line. Not that I am against building on the West Bank/Jerusalem, but lets be accurate here


  57. 57 | March 11, 2010 06:15

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    2 different catagories

    Influence though propaganda is in the same category. The saudies have way too much investments in American enterprise.


  58. Nevergiveup
    58 | March 11, 2010 06:16

    teacake wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    2 different catagories

    Influence though propaganda is in the same category. The saudies have way too much investments in American enterprise.

    So what do you want to do pass a law not allowing Saudi money in the USA. What’s next Chicom money?


  59. citizen_q
    59 | March 11, 2010 06:16

    @ teacake:

    Not to mention the gross hypocrisy on the restrictions on Jews. For example if you have watched many of the paleostinian protests from around the world red hand prints are a common icon to found on signs. The roots of those bloody hand prints were those 2 IDF reservists who made a wrong turn, ended up in a paleostinian area and were lynched. They were murdered in the most brutal fashion at the local police station, and one of the murders waving his bloddy hands out the second story window to cheering crowds.


  60. 60 | March 11, 2010 06:19

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    So what do you want to do pass a law not allowing Saudi money in the USA

    that would be ideal


  61. coldwarrior
    61 | March 11, 2010 06:20

    i added a comment to the main post, at the end.

    ok all, i have to get this project done by tonight…so i’ll see yinz, play nice.

    fell free to make this an open thread now…it’ll be up untill noon i think.

    buh-bayh!


  62. coldwarrior
    62 | March 11, 2010 06:21

    teacake wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:
    So what do you want to do pass a law not allowing Saudi money in the USA
    that would be ideal

    i’m not there yet either…

    bye.

    play nice, dammit!

    :)


  63. rain of lead
    63 | March 11, 2010 06:26

    “gee, President Wonderful has another problem on his plate.”

    Obama facing uprising over new NASA strategy

    WASHINGTON, March 10 – U.S. President Barack Obama is trying to tamp down an uprising in politically vital Florida against a new strategy for NASA that has rankled space veterans and lawmakers and sparked fears of job losses.

    Obama’s decision to kill NASA’s Constellation program to launch astronauts into orbit and return Americans to the moon has prompted soul-searching on whether the United States is prepared to cede a pre-eminent space role to Russia and China

    Obama’s move for a greater private sector role in space launches — as he seeks to keep ballooning federal deficits in check — has generated fears of job losses among thousands of NASA employees who provide an important economic base in Florida, a state usually crucial in presidential elections.

    Employees at major space complexes in Alabama and Texas are also worried.

    It is making for a potentially explosive environment when Obama travels to the Cape Canaveral area on April 15 to host a space conference with top officials and leaders in the field.

    “What reception will they get? Not good,” said Keith Cowing, editor of nasawatch.com, a website that closely monitors the U.S. space agency. “It’s a gutsy move. It’s Daniel in the Lion’s Den.”


  64. Nevergiveup
    64 | March 11, 2010 06:29

    @ rain of lead:
    See I don’t get this. Even the commie Soviets and SOB Russians want a space program. How come we got the only commie who does not?


  65. Macker
    65 | March 11, 2010 06:29

    @ vagabond trader:

    Actually, Communism has a religion thrown in. It’s called atheism. But of course, Islam is a Disease, wrapped around an Ideology, inside a Cult.


  66. Nevergiveup
    66 | March 11, 2010 06:32

    Macker wrote:

    @ vagabond trader:

    Actually, Communism has a religion thrown in. It’s called atheism. But of course, Islam is a Disease, wrapped around an Ideology, inside a Cult.

    “I cannot forecast to you the action of Russia. It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; but perhaps there is a key. That key is Russian national interest.”
    WSC


  67. citizen_q
    67 | March 11, 2010 06:35

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    @ rain of lead:
    See I don’t get this. Even the commie Soviets and SOB Russians want a space program. How come we got the only commie who does not?

    Because our commie wants rule as god-king of a USA third world banana republic.

    Also did he not direct NASA to do muslim outreach with the wreakage in the aftermath of this proclimation?


  68. 68 | March 11, 2010 06:35

    @ Nevergiveup:

    It only makes sense if you honestly believe that Obama’s goal is to weaken the United States. After last spring’s spending binge, no one in their right mind can think that Obama really just wants to save money. He wants us dependant on other nations for our access to space.


  69. chickadee
    69 | March 11, 2010 06:39

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    @ rain of lead:
    See I don’t get this. Even the commie Soviets and SOB Russians want a space program. How come we got the only commie who does not?

    Forget going to the moon. The muzz don’t like it.
    This is Zero’s secret new plan for NASA. An outreach mission for the muzz. . . .

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2010/feb/nasa-focus-muslim-outreach


  70. Guggi
    70 | March 11, 2010 06:41

    coldwarrior wrote:

    i’ll give beck a pass on this, and keep this incident in close memory. i am far more concerned with the saudi influence on news corp.

    coldwarrior,

    why don’t you write Beck an email and ask him if he really means that GW is a fascist and if so why ?


  71. Nevergiveup
    71 | March 11, 2010 06:43

    Guggi wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:

    i’ll give beck a pass on this, and keep this incident in close memory. i am far more concerned with the saudi influence on news corp.

    coldwarrior,

    why don’t you write Beck an email and ask him if he really means that GW is a fascist and if so why ?

    Personally I think he was generalizing about the polarization of European politics and less so about the specifics of any individual


  72. rain of lead
    72 | March 11, 2010 06:44

    bwahahahahahah!
    the stupid is strong with this one!

    Pilgrim Non Grata in Mecca

    I was tempted to turn my abaya into a black masquerade cloak and sneak into Mecca, just hop over the Tropic of Cancer to the Red Sea and crash the ultimate heaven’s gate.

    But in the end, it seemed disrespectful, not to mention dangerous

    *this level of cluelessness, wonder how she even remembers to breath*


  73. chickadee
    73 | March 11, 2010 06:45

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    It only makes sense if you honestly believe that Obama’s goal is to weaken the United States. After last spring’s spending binge, no one in their right mind can think that Obama really just wants to save money. He wants us dependant on other nations for our access to space.

    He doesn’t want us leading the way. It’s not nice for the arrogant U.S. to always be first.
    Zero is doing everything to take away our confidence in ourselves and our pride in America.
    It is NOT going to work. We are not Europeans who have spent our whole lives under the thumb of kings or dictators.
    We don’t bow down to anyone. Only Zero travels the world doing that.
    He does NOT speak for Americans. He doesn’t know anything abt. us.


  74. snowcrash
    74 | March 11, 2010 06:53

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Never, are you inside my brain and broadcasting my thoughts? LOL Everything you’ve said since comment #13 has been spot on! Now, back to my coffee and toast.


  75. citizen_q
    75 | March 11, 2010 06:53

    teacake wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    There’s a black reverend whose name I forget at the moment who claims to have evidence that obama was a cia recruit, but it wasn’t geared toward his ending up a senator or president.

    I think that I know who you are talking about. He has some videos on youtube that are a hoot if you like hearing someone trash owebama.


  76. citizen_q
    76 | March 11, 2010 06:56

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    It only makes sense if you honestly believe that Obama’s goal is to weaken the United States. After last spring’s spending binge, no one in their right mind can think that Obama really just wants to save money. He wants us dependant on other nations for our access to space.

    This.


  77. Nevergiveup
    77 | March 11, 2010 06:58

    snowcrash wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Never, are you inside my brain and broadcasting my thoughts? LOL Everything you’ve said since comment #13 has been spot on! Now, back to my coffee and toast.

    Nice to have support. Thanks


  78. The Osprey
    78 | March 11, 2010 07:00

    “I for one do not intend to go to sleep by the light of a communist moon!”


  79. African Moondog
    79 | March 11, 2010 07:03

    @ teacake:
    teacake wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    So what do you want to do pass a law not allowing Saudi money in the USA

    that would be ideal

    It would also be unconstitutional.


  80. RIX
    80 | March 11, 2010 07:06

    @ Macker:
    But of course, Islam is a Disease, wrapped around an Ideology, inside a Cult.

    Whew! For a minute I thought that you were talking about Little Green Hairballs.


  81. 81 | March 11, 2010 07:11

    This is a good question. From the Puppyblender:\

    March 11, 2010
    MASSACRES: Why don’t Christians care? “What I do know is that it is much more dangerous to publish a cartoon of Mohammed than to slice apart a Christian with a machete.” Time for a new version of the Knights Templar?

    Time for a new Crusade?


  82. tunnelrat
    82 | March 11, 2010 07:18

    OT: These House Dems are standing in the way of the health care cramdown over the issue of federally funded abortions. They are threatening to block the bill, however democrats always seem to follow the party line at the end of the day. None the less, if one of these are your Representative, please write to them and let them know how you feel about the comprehensive health care bill:

    Rep. Dan Lipinski of Illinois
    James Oberstar of Minnesota
    Kathy Dahlkemper of Pennsylvania
    Steve Driehaus of Ohio
    Marion Berry of Arkansas.
    Joe Donnelly of Indiana

    Oberstar is my Congressman and I e-mailed him yesterday. Got a reply back which stated that we need reform, but did not say he endorsed the bill. In other words it said nothing at all, and could be sent out to somebody who either supports the bill or opposes it. A typical tone deaf politician…


  83. RIX
    83 | March 11, 2010 07:18

    @ Iron Fist:
    ” Time for a new version of the Knights Templar?

    According to the Free Masons, the Templars never really went away.


  84. garycooper
    84 | March 11, 2010 07:26

    Beck is an amusing gadfly, and there’s nothing wrong with that. I’ve only been reading up on and listening to him for a short while, but I would caution against putting a ton of faith in him as some kind of leader of whatever movement you’re into. He’s not the most stable of guys, and he’s not a deep thinker. He’s good for ratings, though, so he’s going to be around for awhile.

    I find him easier to watch than the odious and oily O’Reilly.

    I wish somebody I really respect had an hour nightly on Fox, like Dennis Miller or Mark Steyn. Smart and funny, and strongly-conservative.


  85. garycooper
    85 | March 11, 2010 07:28

    RIX wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    ” Time for a new version of the Knights Templar?
    According to the Free Masons, the Templars never really went away.

    According to author Dan Brown, too. You Hanks-haters will want to see the movies of his books, of course. ;)


  86. African Moondog
    86 | March 11, 2010 07:28

    @ Iron Fist:
    From the same source:

    Do you remember the “massacre” at Jenin? Of course: Palestinians initially claimed that 500 had been killed, but it turned out that there was no massacre after all. In Nigeria, on the other hand, no one disputes that more than 500 Christians were slaughtered by Muslims. So where is the outrage? I don’t know what denomination those Nigerian Christians were, but Lutherans are the most numerous Christian denomination in Africa. I’m a Lutheran, but I have never heard a single word from any church source, local or national, about the mass murder of African Christians. No one seems to care.

    May I suggest, at the risk of provoking outrage, that had those Christians been white, there would have been outcries aplenty, with a lot of twaddle about “root causes” to justify the attackers. But they are only African so mild concern is expressed.

    None of this concern, I note, emanates from the lips of the likes of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Rev Wright and other good Christians of their ilk.


  87. 87 | March 11, 2010 07:28

    GoddessOfTheClassroom! Please add Donna S to your prayer list! fatigue, unknown medical issues (possible thyroid malfunction or fibromyalgia). Poor woman can’t even work! But, there is a praise too – she has a very kind, gentle, loving husband who is doing his best to take care of her. Thanks GotC.


  88. 88 | March 11, 2010 07:31

    @ African Moondog:

    I don’t disagree. If you go back to the Genocide in Rwanda, there is no doubt in my mind that had the Tutsie had white skin and been in eastern Europe the Clinton Administration would have stepped in and prevented it. As it was, they actively helped cover it up until it was too late to do anything. Dispicable.


  89. vapig
    89 | March 11, 2010 07:32

    This really bugs me: Iman to give prayer at the Virginia House

    This is the guy that’s been training all the Jihad Johnnies coming out of Virginia!


  90. African Moondog
    90 | March 11, 2010 07:34

    Gotta Go, Have fun everyone. BBL.


  91. bar
    91 | March 11, 2010 07:35

    From a link in the article:

    As WND reported, the Saudi prince, who owns a 5.7 percent share of Fox News, claimed in 2005 he persuaded Murdoch to immediately stop the top-rated cable network from identifying unrest in France as “Muslim riots.”

    5.7 percent? that’s not a lot of influence. When he owns 51% of Fox News, call me.


  92. RIX
    92 | March 11, 2010 07:36

    @ garycooper:
    I find him easier to watch than the odious and oily O’Reilly.

    O’Riley is generally uninformed or only has some cursory knowledge.
    It seems to me that he is always sucking up to Obama & protecting him from responsibility for anything. I think that O”Riley is trying to make the White House guest list.
    If puppies were being drowned in the White House Fountain every night at sunset, I could just hear him.
    ‘Talking points of course disapproves of cruelty to small animals by White House Staff. We believe that the President does not condone this & attends in order to monitor the activity.”


  93. garycooper
    93 | March 11, 2010 07:37

    Chunky is pimping Rachel Maddow on his blog, now. LOL!

    If you think of his blog’s trajectory as an airplane in a death-spiral, as I do, where would you place him currently? Still making a few ever-decreasing-in-circumference spins, or in full-on plunge-mode, screaming straight towards the ground?

    I think it’s the latter, and I think he’s accelerating.


  94. vapig
    94 | March 11, 2010 07:37

    African Moondog wrote:

    @ teacake:
    teacake wrote:
    Nevergiveup wrote:
    So what do you want to do pass a law not allowing Saudi money in the USA
    that would be ideal
    It would also be unconstitutional.

    Why unconstitutional? Where in the Constitution does it say that we must allow foreign money into our country? This doesn’t fall under a trade clause.


  95. garycooper
    95 | March 11, 2010 07:43

    @ RIX:

    Exactly. Besides which, he reminds me of this teacher at my old high school, back in the ’70′s, who was screwing a couple of cheerleaders by promising them A’s in his Trig class. Then they found out about each other, and blew the whistle on him — he was made to go bye-bye. :0

    His sex-scandal at Fox was the gross harassment-type, and occurred at the same time he was flogging his book for kiddies. This was the end of my patience with him.


  96. vapig
    96 | March 11, 2010 07:44

    garycooper wrote:

    Beck is an amusing gadfly, and there’s nothing wrong with that. I’ve only been reading up on and listening to him for a short while, but I would caution against putting a ton of faith in him as some kind of leader of whatever movement you’re into. He’s not the most stable of guys, and he’s not a deep thinker. He’s good for ratings, though, so he’s going to be around for awhile.
    I find him easier to watch than the odious and oily O’Reilly.
    I wish somebody I really respect had an hour nightly on Fox, like Dennis Miller or Mark Steyn. Smart and funny, and strongly-conservative.

    Yes to both of those! I find I look more forward to Rush’s show when Steyn is on!


  97. 97 | March 11, 2010 07:46

    garycooper wrote:

    Chunky Mr. Johnson is pimping Rachel Maddow on his blog, now. LOL!

    If you ever listen to Rachel Maddow this isn’t surprising. After his change, their political positions are nearly identical. Truthfully, I have found the similarities oddly similar to the point that I wouldn’t be surprised if they were reading the same morning briefings.


  98. RIX
    98 | March 11, 2010 07:51

    @ garycooper:
    I’ve got the new Dan Brown book, but haven’t opened it yet.
    Angles & Demons was a pretty good book, but I thought that it was a poor move. Tom Hanks performance should have gotten him a Razzie.


  99. Beltfed
    99 | March 11, 2010 07:51

    RIX @ 83:

    The Knights Templar are alive and well sailing around the world disguised as Portuguese Naval Cadets aboard the barkentine Sagres
    ;) ////


  100. snork
    100 | March 11, 2010 07:53

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Nevergiveup
    13 | March 11, 2010 5:27 am

    teacake wrote:

    I’d be interested to know if Beck is at all uneasy with having a Saudi overlord at FOX.

    There is no Saudi overlord at Fox

    And Beck is his messenger.


  101. 101 | March 11, 2010 07:53

    @ vapig:

    You are reading it wrong. Where in the Constitution is the Federal Government granted the power to regulate how a citizen or lawful alien may spend their lawfully obtained money? Where is it granted the power to tell the owner of a commodity (stock in this case) that they may not sell it to another individual for whatever reason? As it is the government acreates to itself too much power that it is not granted in the Constitution. Liberals, of course, want as much power as possible acreated in the Central Government. It isn’t helpful when Conservatives call on it to do so as well.


  102. m
    103 | March 11, 2010 07:56

    @ vapig:

    Yes! Me too with the Steyn thing~ *happy sigh*


  103. 104 | March 11, 2010 07:57

    One mistake or one statement that you don’t agree with is not, imo, enough to throw someone under the bus (with notable exceptions, of course). This statement of Becks may be something that he can be educated on and corrected. Email him and give him a chance to do so. glennbeck@foxnews.com

    Also, it’s always a mistake to put great faith in a human being. They will always disappoint you. As ornery elephant pointed out in chat the other day, even Reagan disappointed when he pulled the troops out of Lebanon after the Marine Baracks bombing.

    You cannot expect perfection or 100% agreement in any human being.

    There are a few anecdotal stories in this thread. I believe none without proof. imo, that’s the best way.


  104. Dolphin
    105 | March 11, 2010 07:57

    @ RIX:
    Deception Point and Angles & Demons are his best books. I just finished the Lost Symbol, it was ok. I have not seen either of the movies.


  105. vapig
    106 | March 11, 2010 07:59

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ vapig:
    You are reading it wrong. Where in the Constitution is the Federal Government granted the power to regulate how a citizen or lawful alien may spend their lawfully obtained money? Where is it granted the power to tell the owner of a commodity (stock in this case) that they may not sell it to another individual for whatever reason? As it is the government acreates to itself too much power that it is not granted in the Constitution. Liberals, of course, want as much power as possible acreated in the Central Government. It isn’t helpful when Conservatives call on it to do so as well.

    All this crap needs to be striped out of law so we can get back to basics! These baby steps by themselves don’t account for much. But when added up over the long term are monumentally disasterous!


  106. vapig
    107 | March 11, 2010 07:59

    m wrote:

    @ vapig:
    Yes! Me too with the Steyn thing~ *happy sigh*

    {{M}} Yeah – he is a dish, isn’t he?


  107. m
    108 | March 11, 2010 08:01

    WrathofG-d wrote:

    garycooper wrote:

    Chunky Mr. Johnson The Johnson is pimping Rachel Maddow on his blog, now. LOL!

    If you ever listen to Rachel Maddow this isn’t surprising. After his change, their political positions are nearly identical. Truthfully, I have found the similarities oddly similar to the point that I wouldn’t be surprised if they were reading the same morning briefings.

    Meet in the middle! lol!


  108. m
    109 | March 11, 2010 08:02

    @ vapig:

    {{Vapig}} Morning sunshine! OH yeah… homina homina…


  109. 110 | March 11, 2010 08:03

    Similarly, behold the backwards logic of the BBC re “Islamophobia”.

    They admit over and over again that the ill feelings towards Muslims in England all started as a result of 9/11, but then conclude that they are unfounded and without reason. Beyond that fact that the BBC completely ignores the London bombings by Muslims…Um……why wouldn’t 9/11 be the cause and not “unfounded Islamophoabia”?


  110. citizen_q
    111 | March 11, 2010 08:04

    WrathofG-d wrote:

    OT:
    Anti-Semitism up in Sweden.
    Open Anti-Semitism in New York

    koranimals!


  111. RIX
    112 | March 11, 2010 08:06

    Dolphin wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Deception Point and Angles & Demons are his best books. I just finished the Lost Symbol, it was ok. I have not seen either of the movies.

    The DaVinci Code is a pretty good flick, Angels & Demons not so much.
    Tom Hanks should have aplogised & returned his salary.
    He played his part like a smirking teenager.


  112. RIX
    113 | March 11, 2010 08:08

    @ Beltfed:
    Saladin the Great feared the Templars. His standing order was “No prisoners.”


  113. citizen_q
    114 | March 11, 2010 08:09

    WrathofG-d wrote:

    Similarly, behold the backwards logic of the BBC re “Islamophobia”.

    They admit over and over again that the ill feelings towards Muslims in England all started as a result of 9/11, but then conclude that they are unfounded and without reason. Beyond that fact that the BBC completely ignores the London bombings by Muslims…Um……why wouldn’t 9/11 be the cause and not “unfounded Islamophoabia”?

    islamophobia?!?! What a joke of a muslime made PR term. A phobia is an irrational fear. My concern about islam and its adherents are based on koran, sunnah, hadith, words and actions of its miserable followers, and thus perfectly rational. It is too bad I have not heard anyone of stature rebuke this misnomer.


  114. 115 | March 11, 2010 08:17

    @ WrathofG-d:

    9-11 is a pretty damn good cause. From the very moment the Towers fell the Mohammedans have been whining about people’s natural reaction to it while they praise the hijackers as the “Magnificent Ninteen”. It really is quite ridiculous. Islam is the Religion of Terror. It is that simple. The quicker we admit that, the better off we will be. (I know, I’m preaching to the choir here)


  115. garycooper
    116 | March 11, 2010 08:18

    Brown’s books are entertaining, but they’re chock-full of factual errors, and what have to be intentional misreadings of the records. Plus, the writing…oh, the sentences you’ll read! I know I’m pickier than most about writing-style, thanks to having escaped the U. of Michigan with a double-major in English Lit and Psychology. I’m more interested in story, anyway, and Brown spins a good tall-tale.

    The movies follow the books for the most part, and if you suspend your critical-faculties for awhile, you’ll have a fairly good time. Unless the sight of Hanks puts you in a dither, that is.


  116. 117 | March 11, 2010 08:31

    WrathofG-d wrote:

    Similarly, behold the backwards logic of the BBC re “Islamophobia”.

    They admit over and over again that the ill feelings towards Muslims in England all started as a result of 9/11, but then conclude that they are unfounded and without reason. Beyond that fact that the BBC completely ignores the London bombings by Muslims…Um……why wouldn’t 9/11 be the cause and not “unfounded Islamophoabia”?

    The question is: How does it feel you ghouls? Hope it becomes so prevalent they can’t stop and organize anymore.


  117. 118 | March 11, 2010 08:36

    African Moondog wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    From the same source:
    Do you remember the “massacre” at Jenin? Of course: Palestinians initially claimed that 500 had been killed, but it turned out that there was no massacre after all. In Nigeria, on the other hand, no one disputes that more than 500 Christians were slaughtered by Muslims. So where is the outrage? I don’t know what denomination those Nigerian Christians were, but Lutherans are the most numerous Christian denomination in Africa. I’m a Lutheran, but I have never heard a single word from any church source, local or national, about the mass murder of African Christians. No one seems to care.
    May I suggest, at the risk of provoking outrage, that had those Christians been white, there would have been outcries aplenty, with a lot of twaddle about “root causes” to justify the attackers. But they are only African so mild concern is expressed.
    None of this concern, I note, emanates from the lips of the likes of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Rev Wright and other good Christians of their ilk.

    Well then do you think had those stranded folks in New Orleans been white that you would have heard any of the outrage that erupted against GWB?


  118. notacompletedork
    119 | March 11, 2010 10:47

    More here on Beck, Krauthammer and Wilders with lengthy comments:

    http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2010/03/10/beck-krauthammer-and-the-geert-wilders-perplex/


  119. orangecrush
    120 | March 11, 2010 12:17

    The money carriers talk at a high level and express their personal interests. The company owners take heed and work these thoughts into their meeting after discussions with the diversity staff. This results in flag carriers going out to management positions and positions of influence within the organizations to further drive the Saudi points home. Although by now they are dressed in fox attire.

    Over cautious legal advice and strategic advice then affect Beck, Orielly et all.

    The cure? Tea Parties. A foundation in Merit not in Social Justice. A knowledge of where Saudi Money is present in the US.


  120. randian
    121 | March 11, 2010 16:32

    In France, polls have this guy, the president, Nicolas Sarkozy, he is center-right.

    How misleading. Sarkozy is center-right, for a Frenchman. He would be quite at home among Democrats here in the US.

    The left — listen carefully — the left in Europe is communism. The right is fascism, in Europe.

    I don’t know why Beck said this, since he very recently (on his chalkboard) correctly identified both communism and fascism as being of the left.


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