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I’m pissed off again…

by Bob in Breckenridge ( 132 Comments › )
Filed under Patriotism, Sports at March 11th, 2010 - 10:30 am

This moron has a problem with Americans for showing our love for our country?

First, I’ll tell you how this got started. In the mid-80′s, there were only a few dozen American-born hockey players in the National Hockey League.

When these teams would come to Chicago Stadium (I was a Blackhawks season ticket holder back then), they’d start skating before our national anthem was finished (now, they play both the American and Canadian anthems before every game).

This pissed us off.

So we decided to start cheering for our country from the beginning to the end of the Star Spangled Banner. This has been going on as a sign of how much we love America for 25+ years.

Now some idiot writer from Detroit has a problem with it.

You tell me if this is inappropriate:


BTW, go to the article and read the comments…

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132 Responses to “I’m pissed off again…”
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  1. Nevergiveup
    1 | March 11, 2010 10:35 am

    The guy ( it is a guy, are we sure of that? ) probably doesn’t go to many sporting events in the USA?


  2. 2 | March 11, 2010 10:37 am

    It does show a complete lack of decorum, which is most often seen as a lack of respect to our National Anthem.


  3. 3 | March 11, 2010 10:41 am

    I don’t need to see the video to know it’s never, ever inappropriate.


  4. chickadee
    4 | March 11, 2010 10:45 am

    Is this a joke? Some kind of feeble attempt at satire?
    I love the flag waving and show of patriotism.

    Fck him if it makes him feel uncomfortable. I bet he’s a lib.


  5. Nevergiveup
    5 | March 11, 2010 10:49 am

    WrathofG-d wrote:

    It does show a complete lack of decorum, which is most often seen as a lack of respect to our National Anthem.

    Yeah maybe but it’s pretty typical at sporting events here that cheering starts during the National Anthem. It is not meant as disrespect of the Flag or our Nation in any way. I’d be the first to shout if I thought there was any disrespect.


  6. 6 | March 11, 2010 10:52 am

    @ chickadee:

    For the sake of giving this guy the benefit of the doubt, he simply doesn’t like the cheering and the screaming because he sees it as disrespectful to everything our National Anthem and our flag stand for. I, for one, don’t see it as disrespectful.


  7. garycooper
    7 | March 11, 2010 10:55 am

    You think you’re pissed-off, now…wait until my Wings knock the ‘Hawks out of the playoffs in the first round. ;)

    Personally, I always thought the Chicago tradition of cheering through the anthem was cool. I didn’t know how it started, though — thanks for that.


  8. Runner
    8 | March 11, 2010 10:56 am

    While I can appreciate the crowd’s enthusiasm, I would prefer they stand respectfully in a more traditional manner. Then when the anthem is over they can let loose with all the cheers, waves, hollers, etc.


  9. wolfie
    9 | March 11, 2010 10:56 am

    WrathofG-d wrote:

    It does show a complete lack of decorum, which is most often seen as a lack of respect to our National Anthem.

    It may show a lack of decorum, but it cannot possibly be seen as a lack of respect for the anthem and all it stands for. These people may not be using the right fork for the salad, so to speak, but they’ve got the right appetite.

    Compare this to Obama standing with his hands over his crotch looking awkward and nervous as the anthem plays. Ugh.

    Thank God for the yahoos!


  10. Nevergiveup
    10 | March 11, 2010 10:57 am

    Runner wrote:

    While I can appreciate the crowd’s enthusiasm, I would prefer they stand respectfully in a more traditional manner. Then when the anthem is over they can let loose with all the cheers, waves, hollers, etc.

    Remember and consider that half the crowd is probably tanked-up by the National Anthem


  11. buzzsawmonkey
    11 | March 11, 2010 10:57 am

    wolfie wrote:

    Compare this to Obama standing with his hands over his crotch looking awkward and nervous as the anthem plays. Ugh.

    Come on now, that’s a mark of respect. He’s trying not to show a patriotic audience what a dick he is.


  12. Nevergiveup
    12 | March 11, 2010 10:58 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    wolfie wrote:

    Compare this to Obama standing with his hands over his crotch looking awkward and nervous as the anthem plays. Ugh.

    Come on now, that’s a mark of respect. He’s trying not to show a patriotic audience what a dick he is.

    Then he should cover his face


  13. wolfie
    13 | March 11, 2010 10:59 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    He’s trying not to show a patriotic audience what a dick he is.

    Well, he hardly needs to use both hands for that.


  14. buzzsawmonkey
    14 | March 11, 2010 10:59 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Then he should cover his face

    Ah, the punchline to the old “Oxford” joke.


  15. wolfie
    15 | March 11, 2010 11:02 am

    In fairness to Obama, he did cover his heart when the Ghana anthem was played.


  16. Nevergiveup
    16 | March 11, 2010 11:06 am

    wolfie wrote:

    In fairness to Obama, he did cover his heart when the Ghana anthem was played.

    What is the Ghana Anthem? ” I Ghana get outa here”?


  17. S the Elder
    17 | March 11, 2010 11:06 am

    @ wolfie:

    This is probably not the first time in their adult lives that these Blackhawk fans have been proud of their country…


  18. S the Elder
    18 | March 11, 2010 11:07 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    wolfie wrote:
    In fairness to Obama, he did cover his heart when the Ghana anthem was played.

    What is the Ghana Anthem? ” I Ghana get outa here”?

    “…if it’s the last thing I ever do…”


  19. chickadee
    19 | March 11, 2010 11:08 am

    Morgan wrote:

    @ chickadee:

    For the sake of giving this guy the benefit of the doubt, he simply doesn’t like the cheering and the screaming because he sees it as disrespectful to everything our National Anthem and our flag stand for. I, for one, don’t see it as disrespectful.

    I question his sincerity. I can’t see how this kind of flag waving and cheering could be disrespectful.
    It is not a solemn occasion, it is a sporting event. It is to be expected of a crowd like this. How could anyone stop this kind of pure unbridled enthusiasm anyway.


  20. Nevergiveup
    20 | March 11, 2010 11:09 am

    chickadee wrote:

    How could anyone stop this kind of pure unbridled enthusiasm anyway.

    Turn the team into the NY Knicks


  21. wolfie
    21 | March 11, 2010 11:10 am

    @ Nevergiveup:
    @ S the Elder:

    :lol:


  22. wolfie
    22 | March 11, 2010 11:11 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    chickadee wrote:
    How could anyone stop this kind of pure unbridled enthusiasm anyway.
    Turn the team into the Baltimore OriolesNY Knicks


  23. Nevergiveup
    23 | March 11, 2010 11:11 am

    wolfie wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    @ S the Elder:

    Hey you teed it up for us good!


  24. 24 | March 11, 2010 11:13 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    wolfie wrote:
    In fairness to Obama, he did cover his heart when the Ghana anthem was played.

    What is the Ghana Anthem? ” I Ghana get outa here”?

    God bless our homeland Ghana
    And make our nation great and strong,
    Bold to defend forever
    The cause of Freedom and of Right;
    Fill our hearts with true humility,
    Make us cherish fearless honesty,
    And help us to resist oppressors’ rule
    With all our will and might evermore.

    Hail to thy name, O Ghana,
    To thee we make our solemn vow:
    Steadfast to build together
    A nation strong in Unity;
    With our gifts of mind and strength of arm,
    Whether night or day, in the midst of storm,
    In ev’ry need, whate’er the call may be,
    To serve thee, Ghana, now and evermore.

    Raise high the flag of Ghana
    And one with Africa advance;
    Black star of hope and honor
    To all who thirst for liberty;
    Where the banner of Ghana free flies,
    May the way to freedom truly lie;
    Arise, arise, O sons of Ghanaland,
    And under God march on for evermore!


  25. S the Elder
    25 | March 11, 2010 11:16 am

    @ WrathofG-d:

    I like our version better.


  26. citizen_q
    26 | March 11, 2010 11:19 am

    I don’t see it as inappropriate.

    While I usually am a stickler for manners, and was taught to give proper respect when out Nation Anthem was performed, I found the patriotic enthusiasm sincere, and quite heartening.


  27. livefreeor die
    27 | March 11, 2010 11:20 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    wolfie wrote:
    In fairness to Obama, he did cover his heart when the Ghana anthem was played.
    What is the Ghana Anthem? ” I Ghana get outa here”?

    “I Ghana get you sucka”


  28. Nevergiveup
    28 | March 11, 2010 11:20 am

    Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon on Thursday defended Israel’s decision to approve construction of 1,600 new housing units in East Jerusalem, saying sovereignty over the capital has never been negotiable and that Israel would not make any more concessions for peace.

    Good for him!


  29. livefreeor die
    29 | March 11, 2010 11:21 am

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Go Israel!


  30. S the Elder
    30 | March 11, 2010 11:22 am

    livefreeor die wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:
    wolfie wrote:
    In fairness to Obama, he did cover his heart when the Ghana anthem was played.
    What is the Ghana Anthem? ” I Ghana get outa here”?
    “I Ghana get you sucka”

    “Ghana Said Knock You Out”


  31. 31 | March 11, 2010 11:23 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon on Thursday defended Israel’s decision to approve construction of 1,600 new housing units in East Jerusalem, saying sovereignty over the capital has never been negotiable and that Israel would not make any more concessions for peace.

    Good for him!

    B’H, and Thank G-d! Now I can only hope and pray that they stick to that statement!


  32. Nevergiveup
    32 | March 11, 2010 11:23 am

    WrathofG-d wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon on Thursday defended Israel’s decision to approve construction of 1,600 new housing units in East Jerusalem, saying sovereignty over the capital has never been negotiable and that Israel would not make any more concessions for peace.

    Good for him!

    B’H, and Thank G-d! Now I can only hope and pray that they stick to that statement!

    Well you and I both know they will NOT.


  33. livefreeor die
    33 | March 11, 2010 11:24 am

    @ S the Elder:
    “Never Ghana let you go”


  34. 34 | March 11, 2010 11:26 am

    @ wolfie:

    Compare this to Obama standing with his hands over his crotch looking awkward and nervous as the anthem plays. Ugh.

    Excellent riposte. Obama is either an uneducated, uncivilized rube or he was being deliberately disrespectful when that pic was taken. If he’s an uneducated rube, he’s got the most advanced degrees from prestigious universities of any uneducated rube on the planet.


  35. 36 | March 11, 2010 11:28 am

    @ WrathofG-d:

    He really covered his heart for the Ghana anthem? what a total prick. I hope the 52% are happy with this Mussolini-wannabe Teleprompter Jesus© that they elected. McCain would have sucked, but he’d have been miles and miles better than this cocksucker.


  36. 37 | March 11, 2010 11:30 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ WrathofG-d:
    He really covered his heart for the Ghana anthem? what a total prick. I hope the 52% are happy with this Mussolini-wannabe Teleprompter Jesus© that they elected. McCain would have sucked, but he’d have been miles and miles better than this cocksucker.

    I have absolutely NO IDEA if he covered his heart at the Ghana National Anthem or not. I was simply providing the anthem.


  37. wolfie
    39 | March 11, 2010 11:34 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I’ll see if I can find the photo.


  38. Moemo
    40 | March 11, 2010 11:34 am

    As a Detroiter and a Wings fan, I have to say, Otto is a tool. I always got a kick out of this Chicago tradition, it always reminds me that no matter what US city your team calls home, in the end, we are all Americans first.


  39. vapig
    41 | March 11, 2010 11:37 am

    WrathofG-d wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Well…Netanyahu reassures Biden there won’t be any building in ‘east’ Jerusalem?

    That’s not what the article says. Basically he’s saying, “We won’t announce such things when your here!”


  40. Nevergiveup
    42 | March 11, 2010 11:39 am

    vapig wrote:

    WrathofG-d wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Well…Netanyahu reassures Biden there won’t be any building in ‘east’ Jerusalem?

    That’s not what the article says. Basically he’s saying, “We won’t announce such things when your here!”

    I got a better idea for Biden: Don’t come! And by the way that goes for Mitchell also!


  41. vapig
    43 | March 11, 2010 11:40 am

    vapig wrote:

    WrathofG-d wrote:
    @ Nevergiveup:
    Well…Netanyahu reassures Biden there won’t be any building in ‘east’ Jerusalem?
    That’s not what the article says. Basically he’s saying, “We won’t announce such things when your here!”

    Sorry, not an article but actually a Ministry of Foreign Affairs statement:

    The PM expressed his displeasure at the timing of the announcement of another stage in the planning process of a Jerusalem building project.


  42. vapig
    44 | March 11, 2010 11:42 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    vapig wrote:
    WrathofG-d wrote:
    @ Nevergiveup:
    Well…Netanyahu reassures Biden there won’t be any building in ‘east’ Jerusalem?
    That’s not what the article says. Basically he’s saying, “We won’t announce such things when your here!”
    I got a better idea for Biden: Don’t come! And by the way that goes for Mitchell also!

    NO kidding! Just butt out of their country’s affairs. I’m sick of all the “pressure” on Israel and threats to cut off stuff they’ve already paid for while giving the jordyptians money to buy weapons to kill Israelis!


  43. rain of lead
    45 | March 11, 2010 11:43 am

    this is not about hockey, but it is about love of country

    This We Will Defend
    “Slaughter Strategy” Is An Affront To The Constitution

    Lose sight of what you are defending and defense isn’t all that important, is it?

    This simple reminder compels us to shift focus for the moment from our combative enemies and onto that which we defend. We do not engage in such rigorous defense -- in its many forms -- simply to preserve soil or borders or lives. We engage in rigorous defense of ideas. Ideas embodied in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States of America. We do not defend simply the shores and borders and people of America. We defend -- rigorously -- so much more than that. We defend what it means to be American. We defend what it is that inspires so many countless others to risk life, limb and treasure to get to America even still.

    And, to put it plainly, there is tyranny afoot and it must be confronted and defeated with confidence, determination and passion. The confrontation is not about health care or any other piece of legislation. It is not about politicians, politics or parties.

    The confrontation is about process. The confrontation is about fidelity to the Constitution.

    House Rules Chairwoman Louise Slaughter says she is “prepping to help usher the healthcare overhaul through the House and potentially avoid a direct vote on the Senate overhaul bill.” She continued, explaining how House passage of a separate bill containing “changes” to the Senate version would lead House leadership to “deem” the actual Senate HealthCare Bill passed -- without a direct vote.

    This is not simply tyrannical in nature, it is absolute political cowardice.

    Nowhere under that oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States is it stated or implied to include defending the right of any individual in an elected Congressional body to have the power, through assumption or parliamentary “rules changes,” to “deem” anything passed without the majority consent (through votes) of the full elected body of Congress.

    Understand that it is not lost on me. Understand that it is especially not lost on veterans who view the Constitution as something more than an artifact and a museum piece.

    Understand that the blood spilled and lives lost on historic battlefields here and on distant shores abroad were not sacrificed in order that an individual in government might acquire the power to deem fundamental changes to America’s systems or society. Blood, treasure and lives have been sacrificed standing against precisely that, which is an affront to the concept of “consent of the governed” and individual Liberty.

    “Deem” a single thing as “passed” and I and many others will go broke and into bankruptcy driving you and those who stand with you out of our House of Representatives in order to preserve and restore fidelity to the Constitution within our own government.

    Discount this at your peril. For it should not be lost upon you or others that men who have sworn (and likewise performed) that the Constitution of the United States is worth more than any of our individual lives would likewise also hold that it is worth more than our mere monetary treasure, be it modest or great.

    A wise man once warned a foreign enemy that “there is a price we will not pay and there is a line you must not cross.” Ms. Slaughter, you and those who stand with you are standing on that line.

    read it all…


  44. chickadee
    46 | March 11, 2010 11:44 am

    WrathofG-d wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Well…Netanyahu reassures Biden there won’t be any building in ‘east’ Jerusalem?

    Good cop, bad cop.
    or Bait and switch. LOL


  45. 47 | March 11, 2010 11:45 am

    @ vapig:

    everybody wants to forget that without the “Apartheid” Wall there’d be ‘splodeydopes (I wonder if Charles has renoounced the use of that term?) going off all over Israel all of the time. The Wall brought Peace, or at least far more peace that the fucking “Peace Process” did.


  46. Nevergiveup
    48 | March 11, 2010 11:49 am

    Now a days why should Israel listen to Obama. No one, and I mean NO ONE else in the world does. It all comes down to R.E.S.P.E.C.T. and that spells:

    RESPECT


  47. rain of lead
    49 | March 11, 2010 11:51 am

    heh!

    Acorn Filmmaker’s Fresh Tapes: Inside HUD

    The Acorn tapes were made famous by Andrew Breitbart, the conservative media provocateur and the subject of my Wired piece. In December, Fox News host Sean Hannity asked him: “Breitbart, you didn’t bring video tonight. What’s up with that?”

    Breitbart answered: “Oh, in the next year there will be more. More than we all can handle.”

    Heh! again, I guess acorn was the LAST group to get “STUNG”, their tapes just got shown first.

    hehehe


  48. 50 | March 11, 2010 11:53 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    With Arab/Muslims serving in the Knesset, the claims of “Apartheid” should hold as much water as their claims of “genocide” as the Arab/Muslim population increases dramatically.

    Anyone that claims that Israel is an “Apartheid” state hasn’t been to Israel as they would quickly see that there are Arab/Muslims everywhere.

    However, if you wish to speak about genocide, and apartheid we can discuss how Gaza is 100% Arab/Muslim, or about how Judea/Samaria are only approximately 12% non Arab/Muslim and that is only in the Jewish neighborhoods.

    Truthfully though, its time to stop complaining and start acting against these lies. Such repeated slander should have consequences.


  49. 51 | March 11, 2010 11:54 am

    @ Nevergiveup:

    ha, ha!

    more. faster. now!


  50. KGB
    52 | March 11, 2010 11:54 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    chickadee wrote:
    How could anyone stop this kind of pure unbridled enthusiasm anyway.
    Turn the team into the NY Knicks

    Are you aware of poorly the Blackhawks organization was run by Bill Wirtz? The Blackhawks wished they were the New York Knicks for a while.

    There’s nothing wrong with the ‘Hawks fans reaction to the anthem. The anthem at the 2009 Winter Classic gave me chills.


  51. buzzsawmonkey
    53 | March 11, 2010 11:56 am

    Wake up, wake up, Rachel Corrie!

    What makes you sleep so sound?

    You’re underneath the Caterpillar tractor

    Tryin’ to protect tunnels in the ground

    The first time I seen Rachel Corrie

    She was hangin’ with the ISM

    Protecting the smuggling tunnels

    And the arms that came through them

    The next time I seen Rachel Corrie

    She was lying down in the dirt

    Hamas connived at her demise,

    Knowing what a dead American’s worth

    Get away, get away, Rachel Corrie

    Tell your folks to stay home with their grief

    They let you go die in a war zone

    In accordance with your hateful beliefs.

    —apologies to “Wake Up, Darlin’ Corrie”


  52. calcajun
    54 | March 11, 2010 11:58 am

    No-I agree with him in a sense that the Anthem is to be respectfully observed--cheers and yells should be held until the singer is hitting the high notes on the word “free”. Any cheering before that, no matter how well intentioned, is bad form. It would be like cheering during “The Lord’s Prayer” or clapping halfway through a recitation of the Gettysburg Address. The impact of the song is lessened by the distraction created by the extraneous noise. Not to mention that it is a hard song to sing and if the crowd noise throws the singer off, you’re apt to have a rendition not unlike the time Rosanne Barr tried it here at a Padres game. No-- hold the cheering until the end.


  53. 55 | March 11, 2010 11:58 am

    @ rain of lead:

    they are really pushing it. I can’t believe that they are even considering this, but it is clear that they are. They are totaliatrian wannabes. They think they have the right to rule by deccree, and there are a lot of people in the population that would be content to let them do just that. They are a sizable minority, but they are a minority. We must not let them trample on our rights.


  54. vapig
    56 | March 11, 2010 11:59 am

    @ rain of lead:

    Department of Education buying guns?


  55. Nevergiveup
    57 | March 11, 2010 11:59 am

    KGB wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    chickadee wrote:
    How could anyone stop this kind of pure unbridled enthusiasm anyway.
    Turn the team into the NY Knicks

    Are you aware of poorly the Blackhawks organization was run by Bill Wirtz? The Blackhawks wished they were the New York Knicks for a while.

    Have you actually seen the Knicks the last few years? Does the name Issiah ring a bell???

    There’s nothing wrong with the ‘Hawks fans reaction to the anthem. The anthem at the 2009 Winter Classic gave me chills.


  56. calcajun
    58 | March 11, 2010 11:59 am

    @ WrathofG-d:
    Cripes. And where is the infrastructure to support those homes? Roads? Power? Sewers?


  57. calcajun
    59 | March 11, 2010 12:01 pm

    @ vapig:
    It’s about time the teachers got armed. Still does not equal the firepower possessed by the students.


  58. mawskrat
    60 | March 11, 2010 12:01 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    we ghana get out of this place if it’s the last thing we ever do
    cause there is a better life for me and you

    //some song


  59. S the Elder
    61 | March 11, 2010 12:03 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I like strawberries and whipped cream over maple syrup…


  60. calcajun
    62 | March 11, 2010 12:04 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    What is the Ghana Anthem?

    “Ghana Fly Now!”
    “Ghana Wash That Man Right Out of My Hair”


  61. 63 | March 11, 2010 12:04 pm

    @ WrathofG-d:

    I don’t disagree, but what to do is the question. Anti-semitism wouldn’t get you very far around here. I’m sure there are anti-semites around (there are, after all, Mohammedans around), but they are a small, nonvocal minority. even regular Liberals are rare and timid creatures around here. What war protests there were here were tiny, unnoticible things. Even our Democrats pay lip service to conservatism. i want to do more, but don’t really know where to start.


  62. mawskrat
    64 | March 11, 2010 12:05 pm

    if you have ever been to a Winston Cup Race they have a invocation
    before the national anthem allways makes the hair stand up on my back


  63. buzzsawmonkey
    65 | March 11, 2010 12:06 pm

    calcajun wrote:

    “Ghana Fly Now!”
    “Ghana Wash That Man Right Out of My Hair”

    Don’t forget “I, Ghana, Be Loved by You, Just You, and Nobody Else But You”…


  64. 66 | March 11, 2010 12:07 pm

    @ vapig:

    if you notice, those are NFA short-barreled shotguns. i think I would like to see someone argue in front of a judge that if such instruments are appropriate for the Department of Education, then they are appropriate for civillians to own without ornerous permits or permission slips from the government needed.


  65. S the Elder
    67 | March 11, 2010 12:07 pm

    calcajun wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:
    What is the Ghana Anthem?
    “Ghana Fly Now!”
    “Ghana Wash That Man Right Out of My Hair”

    “ghana be starting something”


  66. mawskrat
    68 | March 11, 2010 12:07 pm

    @ mawskrat:
    other way around


  67. 69 | March 11, 2010 12:14 pm

    Good news, Guys and Dolls! The Senate Parlimentarian has ruled on reconcilliation, and Obama isn’t going to like his ruling:

    The Senate Parliamentarian has ruled that President Barack Obama must sign Congress’ original health care reform bill before the Senate can act on a companion reconciliation package, senior GOP sources said Thursday. The Senate Parliamentarian’s Office was responding to questions posed by the Republican leadership.

    Rollcall website appears to be down, so all I have is the Lucianne extract. Still, this is really good news. Now we will see if Joe Biden will step in and overrule the Parlimentarian. It is becomming obvious that there is no real legal avenue forward for ObamaCare. The question is, will the Democrats try to find extra-legal (or flat out illegal) ways to “pass” it. The answer appears to be yes.


  68. Beltfed
    70 | March 11, 2010 12:15 pm

    If I remember my history correctly, the poem “Defence of Fort McHenry” written by Francis Scott Key that eventually became “The Spangled Banner” our National Anthem was written with a lot of “background noise” due to the bombardment of Fort McHenry by the British.

    So what’s the problem of having a little background noise from enthusiastic fans who happen to be patriots and supporters of our Armed Forces.


  69. Possum
  70. 72 | March 11, 2010 12:21 pm

    @ Possum:

    Thanks. It is good news. It will be interesting to see how far the Democrats are willing to go.


  71. buzzsawmonkey
    73 | March 11, 2010 12:23 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Thanks. It is good news. It will be interesting to see how far the Democrats are willing to go.

    If the “healthcare bill” were any good, it wouldn’t need a stealth-o-scope to get it through Congress.


  72. mawskrat
    74 | March 11, 2010 12:24 pm

    I don’t understand why people think life has to be fair
    sometimes you win/loose and yes sometimes you just get fucked
    over.

    //life’s tuff get a hard hat


  73. Nevergiveup
    75 | March 11, 2010 12:26 pm

    mawskrat wrote:

    I don’t understand why people think life has to be fair
    sometimes you win/loose and yes sometimes you just get fucked
    over.

    //life’s tuff get a hard hat

    Sometimes you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you


  74. NoThreat2U
    76 | March 11, 2010 12:30 pm

    @ rain of lead:
    Iron Fist and I discussed this yesterday. What a bunch of lying thieving bastards they are.


  75. Nevergiveup
    77 | March 11, 2010 12:31 pm

    A report issued by the US State Department says that Israel is neglecting mosques and churches despite its claims of preserving all religious holy sites.

    The report noted that sites such as the Cave of Patriarchs are protected for their international significance, whereas other mosques and churches are are under constant threat by local authorities and contractors as opposed to Jewish sites. (Yitzhak Benhorin, Washington)

    They have got to be shitting me. What Bullshit! Every time Israel tries to intervene in any dispute with a Church or Mosque the whole fuckin world goes ape shit.


  76. citizen_q
    78 | March 11, 2010 12:35 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Blame the Jews!!! Its game everyone can play regardless of their position!

    /////sarcasm


  77. NoThreat2U
    79 | March 11, 2010 12:38 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Personally, as a Catholic, I think the Vatican should be in charge of taking care of churches in the Holy Land. The moes can take care of their own places too. It is just a shame that the moes claim ALL the places as theirs. That is the big problem.


  78. buzzsawmonkey
    80 | March 11, 2010 12:39 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Blame the Jews!!! Its game everyone can play regardless of their position!

    Proof positive that the Jews control all world communications: the Israeli prime minister is named Net ‘n’ Yahoo.


  79. vapig
    81 | March 11, 2010 12:40 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Personally, as a Catholic, I think the Vatican should be in charge of taking care of churches in the Holy Land. The moes can take care of their own places too. It is just a shame that the moes claim ALL the places as theirs. That is the big problem.

    Sorry -- mo has proved they don’t belong in the Holy Land. Period!


  80. Nevergiveup
    82 | March 11, 2010 12:41 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Personally, as a Catholic, I think the Vatican should be in charge of taking care of churches in the Holy Land. The moes can take care of their own places too. It is just a shame that the moes claim ALL the places as theirs. That is the big problem.

    To my knowledge nobody in Israel stops the Vatican from taking an active interest in any Catholic Church.


  81. citizen_q
    83 | March 11, 2010 12:43 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:
    Blame the Jews!!! Its game everyone can play regardless of their position!
    Proof positive that the Jews control all world communications: the Israeli prime minister is named Net ‘n’ Yahoo.

    Wow! You are on a roll today! I thought that I was quite the punster, but I bow before the master!


  82. 84 | March 11, 2010 12:43 pm

    @ vapig:

    +1


  83. 85 | March 11, 2010 12:43 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    A report issued by the US State Department says that Israel is neglecting mosques and churches despite its claims of preserving all religious holy sites.
    The report noted that sites such as the Cave of Patriarchs are protected for their international significance, whereas other mosques and churches are are under constant threat by local authorities and contractors as opposed to Jewish sites. (Yitzhak Benhorin, Washington)
    They have got to be shitting me. What Bullshit! Every time Israel tries to intervene in any dispute with a Church or Mosque the whole fuckin world goes ape shit.

    In everything that deals with Israel (and the Jewish people throughout time) there is always one lesson that can be learned -- Jewish trust is being placed in the wrong place or ignore the World because they have never been there for you.

    I know it sounds crazy to the Jew who has been taught to cling to the Nations, but once we truly believe in ourselves, or destiny, and our place as G-d’s Chosen we will flourish, and history shows this to be true.

    After all Israel has done, the World…now including the U.S. demands that it “take risks for peace“. Um….WHAT?….does Biden not remember the expulsion of innocent Jews from their family homes in Gaza in 2005?


  84. NoThreat2U
    86 | March 11, 2010 12:43 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    I wasn’t saying that they did. I just meant that the Jews only need to be responsible for THEIR own sites….many of which Christianity reveres too. And I agree, everytime Israel wants to repair something, it is the moes claiming they are only doing it the erase the moe history of the land. That is not true. Sorry for the confusion.


  85. m
    87 | March 11, 2010 12:46 pm

    @ mawskrat:

    And when the B52s fly overhead… it’s heart warming! lol!


  86. 88 | March 11, 2010 12:46 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    With things like these, you’d think that Jews could control Obama as well.


  87. calcajun
    89 | March 11, 2010 12:46 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Or, as Garett Morris from the original SNL sang, “Ghana get me a shotgun and kill all the whiteys I see..”


  88. m
    90 | March 11, 2010 12:46 pm

    @ m:

    (or whatever they were, lol!)
    /before someone corrects me. All I know is they were loud, and the crowds were louder!


  89. citizen_q
    91 | March 11, 2010 12:47 pm

    vapig wrote:

    NoThreat2U wrote:
    @ Nevergiveup:
    Personally, as a Catholic, I think the Vatican should be in charge of taking care of churches in the Holy Land. The moes can take care of their own places too. It is just a shame that the moes claim ALL the places as theirs. That is the big problem.
    Sorry – mo has proved they don’t belong in the Holy Land. Period!

    The Holy Land would be holier without the mo’s.

    The seizure ridden pedophile profit of theirs decreed the arabian penninsuala to be muslime only that is their holy land let them go there.


  90. calcajun
    92 | March 11, 2010 12:48 pm

    m wrote:

    @ mawskrat:
    And when the B52s fly overhead… it’s heart warming! lol!

    If they fly too low, it’ll warm more than your heart. “Jet exhaust frying chickens in the barnyard…”


  91. buzzsawmonkey
    93 | March 11, 2010 12:48 pm

    WrathofG-d wrote:

    With things like these, you’d think that Jews could control Obama as well.

    That’s funny, because growing up in Chicago the local brand of kosher hot dogs had a cluster of four six-pointed stars on the package—and the municipal parking lots had four six-pointed stars because of the City of Chicago flag.

    As a kid, I could never figure out why the parking lots were marked “kosher.”


  92. NoThreat2U
    94 | March 11, 2010 12:48 pm

    @ citizen_q:
    If only.


  93. calcajun
    95 | March 11, 2010 12:51 pm

    @ mawskrat:
    Someday you eat the bear, and some day the bear takes you down in the basement of his pawnshop, straps you face down on a table, pulls your pants down while his brother watches and…

    aw, hell. You get my point.


  94. 96 | March 11, 2010 12:53 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    As a kid, I could never figure out why the parking lots were marked “kosher.”

    actual LOL. ha!


  95. 97 | March 11, 2010 12:54 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    I think we should move them all there and blockade the whole lot of them. Let them live in harmony with their moon god. kind of like a religious leper colony…


  96. calcajun
    98 | March 11, 2010 12:55 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    As a kid, I could never figure out why the parking lots were marked “kosher.”

    It’s the way the spaces were cut.


  97. Nevergiveup
    99 | March 11, 2010 12:55 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    I wasn’t saying that they did. I just meant that the Jews only need to be responsible for THEIR own sites….many of which Christianity reveres too. And I agree, everytime Israel wants to repair something, it is the moes claiming they are only doing it the erase the moe history of the land. That is not true. Sorry for the confusion.

    Actually I was making reference to a dispute, I think in Nazareth, about some property between a Church and a Mosque and Israel tried to mediate and all they got for their troubles was shit. And any problem in Israeli controlled area is blamed on Israel not matter what.


  98. Speranza
    100 | March 11, 2010 12:57 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    To my knowledge nobody in Israel stops the Vatican from taking an active interest in any Catholic Church.

    Not all the Christians in the Holy Land are Catholic.


  99. KGB
    101 | March 11, 2010 12:58 pm

    S the Elder wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    I like strawberries and whipped cream over maple syrup…

    Chawuz knows exactly who took the strawberries.


  100. Nevergiveup
    102 | March 11, 2010 1:00 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    To my knowledge nobody in Israel stops the Vatican from taking an active interest in any Catholic Church.

    Not all the Christians in the Holy Land are Catholic.

    Yes and that’s a problem. At many Holy sites the “Traditions” of who is in charge of what and when is kinda tortuous


  101. m
    103 | March 11, 2010 1:01 pm

    @ calcajun:

    ha! I betcha! lol


  102. Eliana
    104 | March 11, 2010 1:02 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Actually I was making reference to a dispute, I think in Nazareth, about some property between a Church and a Mosque and Israel tried to mediate and all they got for their troubles was shit. And any problem in Israeli controlled area is blamed on Israel not matter what.

    Muslims planned to build a huge mosque right next to a very famous Catholic Church in Nazareth to overshadow it completely.

    Israel finally stepped in and turned the mosque land into a park instead.

    This was several years ago.


  103. 105 | March 11, 2010 1:03 pm

    A good write-up of Beck, Dr. K, and Geert Wilders from Roger L. Simon. I’d go a step farther and say I believe wilders is right. The majority of the Mohammedans in America are peaceful because theyare a tiny minority. A tiny, outgunned minority, so of course they want to peacefully co-exist. Tip that balance of power the other way and watch what happens. They’d be lopping of infidels heads and blowing shit up while demanding their rights as superior beings. Just like they do everywhere else they hold the whip-hand.


  104. citizen_q
    106 | March 11, 2010 1:05 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    I think we should move them all there and blockade the whole lot of them. Let them live in harmony with their moon god. kind of like a religious leper colony…

    Ultimately, the best that I could up with as way to win the so-called War On Terror, is a combination of using or military how it should be used, to destroy the enemy and its ability to fight and containment and separation.

    An ugly thought, but unless islam fundamentally changes the jihad will continue.


  105. snowcrash
    107 | March 11, 2010 1:08 pm

    At the Dallas Stars home hockey games, when the national anthem words get to …whose broad stipes and bright stars…the crowd screams STARS for the Dallas Stars. Kind of funny, not disrespectful but rowdy. Hockey has its own breed of fans. LOL


  106. 108 | March 11, 2010 1:09 pm

    Interesting. PJM wouldn’t publish my comment, even though I cleaned it up considerably. Most curious.


  107. 109 | March 11, 2010 1:10 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    And then it is back. I dunno. I’ll check it from home tonight :roll:


  108. vagabond trader
    110 | March 11, 2010 1:12 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Dr. K is wrong on this one and Wilders is correct.As a female and a Jew I do not trust this imaginary line between Islam and Islamism. In the end they will not betray their own and stand with an infidel female.


  109. Nevergiveup
    111 | March 11, 2010 1:16 pm

    @ Eliana:
    See I remember. And I even got the City right


  110. m
    112 | March 11, 2010 1:16 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Good article, thanks!


  111. citizen_q
    113 | March 11, 2010 1:17 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    A good write-up of Beck, Dr. K, and Geert Wilders from Roger L. Simon. I’d go a step farther and say I believe wilders is right. The majority of the Mohammedans in America are peaceful because theyare a tiny minority. A tiny, outgunned minority, so of course they want to peacefully co-exist. Tip that balance of power the other way and watch what happens. They’d be lopping of infidels heads and blowing shit up while demanding their rights as superior beings. Just like they do everywhere else they hold the whip-hand.

    I am sure there must be muslims who want a peaceful existence, but it is hard for me to believe their doing that in dar el harb, and at the same time being devout.

    They are peaceful only out of necessity, and wage jihad on other fronts, calls for tolerance and accommodation yields a creeping sharia, supported by lawfare by groups such as cair. Then there is demographics, out breed the kufir, students on visas that never leave, muslime refugees…. Pretty soon they have a good base and calls for tolerance become demands…., you know the drill, look at Europe as Wilders and others like Melanie Phillips have warned.


  112. vapig
    114 | March 11, 2010 1:18 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    Dr. K is wrong on this one and Wilders is correct.As a female and a Jew I do not trust this imaginary line between Islam and Islamism. In the end they will not betray their own and stand with an infidel female.

    They proved that with that aborted Israeli/mo women for peace thing blew up because the mo women just would not condemn the violence.


  113. vagabond trader
    115 | March 11, 2010 1:19 pm

    Right in front of my fireplace is a big old redware jar with about half a dozen antique American flags planted in it. I had a libral friend who used to look at my patriotic display as though she would turn to stone for staring at it.


  114. 116 | March 11, 2010 1:19 pm

    Yea….let’s force Israel to do it again in Judea & Samaria. It worked so well…


  115. vagabond trader
    117 | March 11, 2010 1:21 pm

    @ vapig:

    Hi vapig!

    To be blunt,and this girl is no feminazi, I simply am not down with any religion cult that reduces women to second class status.


  116. Guggi
    118 | March 11, 2010 1:21 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    A good write-up of Beck, Dr. K, and Geert Wilders from Roger L. Simon. I’d go a step farther and say I believe wilders is right. The majority of the Mohammedans in America are peaceful because theyare a tiny minority. A tiny, outgunned minority, so of course they want to peacefully co-exist. Tip that balance of power the other way and watch what happens. They’d be lopping of infidels heads and blowing shit up while demanding their rights as superior beings. Just like they do everywhere else they hold the whip-hand.

    Don’t tell this your State Department:

    US human rights report attacks Switzerland

    Switzerland has come under criticism in a key United States human rights report in a as an example of anti-Muslim discrimination in Europe.

    The US State Department’s annual report on Human Rights released in Washington on Thursday cites in its introduction last November’s popular vote in Switzerland to ban the building of minarets. It describes growing European discrimination against Muslims as “ an increasing concern”.

    Snip


  117. 119 | March 11, 2010 1:22 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    How many Mohammedans did you hear condemn the Six Flying Imams? Those were the Moderate Muslims. All none of them.


  118. vapig
    120 | March 11, 2010 1:26 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ vapig:
    Hi vapig!
    To be blunt,and this girl is no feminazi, I simply am not down with any religion cult that reduces women to second class status.

    {{VT}} Ditto that. If nothing else it really exposed the organized feminazi as leftist hags more concerned with ideology than justice for brutilized women. They do the same thing in all of Europe -- really disgusting!


  119. citizen_q
    121 | March 11, 2010 1:28 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    How many Mohammedans did you hear condemn the Six Flying Imams? Those were the Moderate Muslims. All none of them.

    I have never quite figured out this mythical being the “moderate muslim”. There is much talk of them. Sometimes a purported one is brought forth to proclaim the peacefulness and tolerance of islam, but like evidence of Sasquatch, upon closer examination the specimen turns out to be something quite different.


  120. m
    122 | March 11, 2010 1:30 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    She’d hate my livingroom then! There are flags everwhere, lol!

    (i love the dark blue, burgandy & creme colored flag stuff)


  121. vagabond trader
    123 | March 11, 2010 1:38 pm

    @ m:

    Same here.The American flag is one of the most beautiful icons in the world.

    I really love the old historical ones and this guy has ‘em.

    http://www.jeffbridgman.com/html/antiqueflags.htm


  122. vagabond trader
    124 | March 11, 2010 1:51 pm

    lol, remember when BJ Clinton was getting busy with Monica in the Oval Office while Arafat cooled his heels waiting to see him.


  123. chickadee
    125 | March 11, 2010 1:56 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:

    Dr. K is wrong on this one and Wilders is correct.As a female and a Jew I do not trust this imaginary line between Islam and Islamism. In the end they will not betray their own and stand with an infidel female.

    I agree with that completely.


  124. FishFearMe
    126 | March 11, 2010 2:00 pm

    A guy from Detroit. The FIRST place I want to get lessons about patriotism and respect from.

    /Mucho grande el sarc-o


  125. vagabond trader
    127 | March 11, 2010 2:04 pm

    {chickadee}


  126. Empire1
    128 | March 11, 2010 2:25 pm

    mawskrat wrote:

    I don’t understand why people think life has to be fair
    sometimes you win/loose and yes sometimes you just get fucked
    over.
    //life’s tuff get a hard hat

    In my more cynical moments, I sometimes think the visible unfairness of life is where the concept of the afterlife comes from. Evil often prospers and good often doesn’t in life, but fairness takes over in the afterlife.


  127. Mashiki
    129 | March 11, 2010 3:59 pm

    It’s kinda odd. I do a fair bit of volunteer work at one of our local stadiums(it’s hosted major international rock shows, to professional sports teams), but I’m usually there because of the minor hockey stuff. They play both the Canadian and American anthems in that order before every game. I’ve never heard, or seen on person get pissed off over it.

    Instead when they were looking to cut out the American anthem to save time people were up in arms over it. (yeah I know canadian take but hey!) We’re intertwined in sports/trade/*insert anything here*, the author of that article is an idiot.


  128. Abu Bin Squid
    130 | March 11, 2010 5:47 pm

    I was at that All-Star Game. 1st row in the 1st balcony. As a season ticket holder in the 2nd balcony I was given the business for not being with the greatest fans upstairs.

    That said, it was a feeling I can’t describe. Pride, but true surprise at the unscripted community pride. Chicago ain’t no conservative town, but a great American town as we felt that day.

    Sorry to quibble but both anthems are NOT played before each NHL game as Bob in B wrote. Only if a team based in Canada is on the ice is Oh Canada sung. Last evening the Hawks hosted Los Angeles and Jim Cornelison only sang The Star Spangled Banner.


  129. goddessoftheclassroom
    131 | March 12, 2010 3:32 pm

    Every Monday our school plays the National Anthem. Everyone stands at respectful attention.

    A few times my kids were whispering. I shamed them with, “Hundred of thousands have died so that you could listen to this. NOTHING is so important you can’t wait two minutes.”

    Yes, everyone has the right not to participate, but as I’ve told one or two, standing is a sign of respect for the ideals of our country, not necessarily the government.


  130. DEDE
    132 | March 26, 2010 6:55 pm

    we the people of the U.S. want Barry Soetoro, aks B.H.O. to be indicted -- Yesterday. The way he treated Netanyahu was the most putrid and filthiest way to treat the Prime Minister of Israel. Never have I ever seen an american born president ever give such disrespect to a head of a country as that arrogant insane slime of the earth, lower then a snake’s belly , OBAMA, the muslim. He made me feel so ashamed for this once upon a time -- great country. This imposter has to step down, or be indicted. Even our own born on american soil presidents are better then this. We the people demand that this pig, who has no manners at all, as we know that pigs don’t just couldn’t wait to go to lunch. And then had the rudness not to invite the prime minister to lunch with him. Well, what else can you expect from a scumbucket raised by communist,marxist and racists. Obama is all of them. So we the people demand that Barry Soetoro show all records, or step down, or get the hell out of Dodge. Americans are sick and tired of all the bullsh-- that falls from his mouth everyday. And he needs to keep his ugly puss off the T.V. everyday. IF HE THINKS HE IS USING MIND CONTROL BECAUSE HE IS ON t.v. EVERYDAY.For get it. It won’t work. were on to you And your face is more ugly every time we see it. This insane man is hell bent on destroying our country completely. He needs to be stopped before there is no more america. Barack does not care one bit about america. Give him sodium penethol and you will get the truth. And you won’t believe what will come out of his mouth. this man is mentally deranged. I guess that’s what happen with all that cocaine and pot and booze. You get a drunken, drug addict and alcholic imposter running our country. This sicko has to go. DEDE


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