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The Greening of the Public

by snork ( 196 Comments › )
Filed under Economy, Politics at March 12th, 2010 - 6:00 am

In the South, there’s a funny expression: “you’re greening me”. It means you’re taking me for a dope; it seems to come from assuming someone is a greenhorn. These days, there’s a whole lot of greening going on. Over at PJM, there’s a pretty good article, The True Meaning of ‘Go Green’. And over at Reason, Green like Me.

I detect a turning point in the talking points. With CRU and the IPCC in tatters, climate is no longer a viable buzztopic. Time to “MoveOn”, as they say. So now “green” is in. From the PJM article:

It’s omnipresent now, appearing in every form of media, in grocery stores, on any sort of product. Smiles and earth tone images greet us as we are told over and over again to “go green,” it’s the right thing to do. Don’t be left out, everyone’s doing it! Green is in, save the earth. It’s in all the schools — green is good, kind, and moral. Green is our future. Without it there will be no future.

Notice that they’re no longer talking about anything tangible. Greenness is simply holiness. You would never question your clergyman on whether holy is good would you? Horn goes on to make a critical point:

To “go green” is a metaphor for a cause, but the cause is not the one you might think it is. Green is not about saving energy. It is not about conservation or living more efficiently by recycling. It’s not about electric cars or hydrogen power or solar panels.

Green is not about you. Green is about saving nature. From you.

In other words, it’s no longer, as it was in the case of the climate emergency about saving us and our progeny. It’s about saving the fish. And the bears. And all kinds of other animals who would just as soon eat you as not.

The phrase “go green” seems harmless enough — what’s so wrong with being more efficient and looking for new ways of producing energy? It’s true, there’s nothing wrong with looking for new energy sources. But going green has been promoted as the answer to all of our energy needs, the idea being that if we “go green” we can save the earth and still produce plenty of energy and create new jobs. This is part of the lie.

What you must always keep in mind is that the only goal of the environmental movement is to save nature from you. There is no other reason for its existence. The environmental movement does not care what happens to your job, your family, your future, the future of your children, this country, any country.

But they package it as good for you. Thus……Green Jobs!!! From Reason:

While the phrase “green jobs” evokes organic farmers and wind turbine repairmen, there is no clear, common definition of what a “green” job is. Without one, special-interest lobbying will transform even well-intentioned programmes. Consider corn-based ethanol, a technology with no redeeming features. Corn-based ethanol is bad for the environment, placing unsustainable demands on water supplies and increasing harmful farming practices. It is bad for people, raising corn prices for some of the world’s poorest people. It provides little, if any, environmental benefit, with a net energy gain often close to or even below zero (the exact amount depends on the weather during the growing season, among other things). Yet corn-based ethanol has received billions in taxpayer support and continues to be favoured in so-called “green” energy legislation….

First issue: no clear way of measuring the greenness of a job. This is guaranteed to lead to a lot of the same kinds of shenanigans that this administration plays with “jobs saved or created”.

Second issue: Real life choices, like the wind or ethanol examples listed above are mixes of pluses or minuses. Nothing (except death) is absolutely green, and nothing is absolutely without benefit. Even when you throw tires into the ocean, it creates reefs, for example. So greenness is basically a marketing claim, like new and improved.

“We found employers have a broad view of what constitutes a green job,” [an official] said.

Green jobs counted in the report include engineers and architects; farmers and fishers; salespeople and lawyers; carpenters and truck drivers.

And even though employers responded to the survey last winter, in the depths of the recession, they were forecasting green jobs would increase 14 percent between 2008 and 2010.

I think it’s pretty clear that green jobs are going to increase by those kinds of margins because existing jobs are going to be declared “green”. From the PJM article:

The opportunities of “going green” have not been lost on corporate America. Corporations have joined in a strange alliance of sorts with the environmental groups. Some very large companies are promoting “go green” in their ad campaigns — you can’t watch a commercial from General Electric without seeing a windmill. Insurance companies promote “going green” as a responsible and eco-sensitive way to insure your car or house. Solar panels are ubiquitous in advertising, lighting our way to a brighter future. Yet corporations could care less about the environmentalist goal of “going green” — the phrase is, again, meant to sucker, to make the consumer feel good about buying the product from the company. It’s no different than the use of words like “new,” “improved,” or “natural.” “Green” is just another marketing tool, and the act of “going green” in the corporate world is the same as it has always been, even if the color of money is not always green anymore.

Basically saying the same thing. Horn goes on:

“Go green” stands for reduced economic activity. The idea is to change the world — scale down the world’s economies to save the climate and the world from prosperity seeking humans. Why else would all these eco-groups demand we meet the now defunct Kyoto Protocol carbon emission reductions? Why else would they demand we reduce carbon emissions by 80 percent by 2050? Because they know the only way to meet those carbon reductions is to radically change everything. The environmentalists fully intend to beat down the economies of developed nations and to stamp out any hopes of the third world.

The next time you see or hear or read “go green” remember it means “go back” — to a time when people lived half as long as today. To a time when humans were at the mercy of nature.

Don’t fall for it.

They’re greening the public. They’re taking us for greenhorn dolts.

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  1. 1 | March 12, 2010 06:04

    It’s in all the schools — green is good, kind, and moral.

    The same people who freak out if you teach kids that not having sex is one way to ensure that you don’t get pregnant because it is “teaching morality” (it also happens to be true, but don’t let facts get in your way) apparently don’t mind teaching morality as long as it is the Right (by which I mean Left) morality. Funny, ain’t it?


  2. RIX
    2 | March 12, 2010 06:10

    The opportunities of “going green” have not been lost on corporate America. Corporations have joined in a strange alliance of sorts with the environmental groups.

    Madison Avenue never misses a beat. During the “Cultural Revolution” in the late 60′s & early 70″s the coroprations got down with the Age of Aquarious selling goods & services to the anti establishment types. It was humorous.


  3. rain of lead
    3 | March 12, 2010 06:13

    @ Iron Fist:

    mornin fist.

    did you see where Dodd dumped Corker on the Finance regs bill?


  4. 4 | March 12, 2010 06:13

    RIX wrote:

    Age of Aquarious selling goods & services to the anti establishment types

    He RIX, I’ve got some crystals if ya need any.


  5. 5 | March 12, 2010 06:13

    Hey not he


  6. rain of lead
    6 | March 12, 2010 06:15

    teacake wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    Age of Aquarious selling goods & services to the anti establishment types
    He RIX, I’ve got some crystals if ya need any.

    that just sounds wrong.

    mornin teacake


  7. RIX
    7 | March 12, 2010 06:17

    @ teacake:
    He RIX, I’ve got some crystals if ya need any

    Morning Teacake. Um, maybe a lava lamp?


  8. vagabond trader
    8 | March 12, 2010 06:19

    The hypocrisy ought to shut down the entire scam. These thieving grifters have no problem flying around in private jets dining extravagantly living the high life whilst their useful idiots pedal bikes and refi the house for 50K needed to put fugly panels on the roof.

    Used to have a crystal gazing “green” friend.She bitched about the new lightbulbs and would leave everything in her upscale house blazing during the day. :mrgreen:


  9. 9 | March 12, 2010 06:19

    @ rain of lead:

    Yeah. I’d have rather Corker dumped Dodd, but I’m glad Corker won’t be co-sponsoring that bullshit.


  10. 10 | March 12, 2010 06:20

    RIX wrote:

    @ teacake:
    He RIX, I’ve got some crystals if ya need any
    Morning Teacake. Um, maybe a lava lamp?

    That was the 60s RIX. lol The ones I see these days at walmart just don’t have the same oo la la


  11. 11 | March 12, 2010 06:21

    rain of lead wrote:

    teacake wrote:
    RIX wrote:
    Age of Aquarious selling goods & services to the anti establishment types
    He RIX, I’ve got some crystals if ya need any.
    that just sounds wrong.
    mornin teacake

    Mornin Rain.


  12. huckfunn
    12 | March 12, 2010 06:23

    Iron Fist wrote:

    It’s in all the schools — green is good, kind, and moral.
    The same people who freak out if you teach kids that not having sex is one way to ensure that you don’t get pregnant because it is “teaching morality” (it also happens to be true, but don’t let facts get in your way) apparently don’t mind teaching morality as long as it is the Right (by which I mean Left) morality. Funny, ain’t it?

    Got your “going green” opportunities right here. This is a chart of the trading action over at the Chicago Climate Exchange. Yes, there really is such a playground. The value and volume of contracts have both declined to Zero. I’ll post the Pixie Dust Exchange data just as soon as I find it.


  13. RIX
    13 | March 12, 2010 06:26

    @ teacake:
    That was the 60s RIX. lol The ones I see these days at walmart just don’t have the same oo la la

    I didn’t know that they were still around , groovy.
    There was a commercial at the time. It was a woman that looked all
    San Francisco angry & she said, “I’m Laura Temkin. I used biodegradable laundry detergent today for your family, what have you done for mine?”
    A buddy of mine looking at the screen just said, “Nothin bitch”
    Eloquent in its simplicity.


  14. rain of lead
    14 | March 12, 2010 06:26

    @ Iron Fist:

    I saw somewhere an article on that and the comments were just SHREDDING Bob Corker, almost ready to tar and feather him
    for having any part of that bill


  15. vagabond trader
    15 | March 12, 2010 06:27

    @ huckfunn:

    Shocka!Wee Weed is associated in this ponzy scheme.

    http://www.kickthemallout.com/article.php/Story-Obama_And_Chicago_Climate_Exchange


  16. buzzsawmonkey
    16 | March 12, 2010 06:28

    Iron Fist wrote:

    The same people who freak out if you teach kids that not having sex is one way to ensure that you don’t get pregnant because it is “teaching morality” (it also happens to be true, but don’t let facts get in your way) apparently don’t mind teaching morality as long as it is the Right (by which I mean Left) morality. Funny, ain’t it?

    What’s even funnier is the Washington Post writing, a few weeks ago, that—lo and behold!—teaching abstinence actually helps prevent preganancy.

    In fact, four out of five parents recommend abstinence for their children who are of sexually active age. OK, I borrowed that from the Trident commercials.


  17. huckfunn
    17 | March 12, 2010 06:29

    @ RIX:
    @ huckfunn:
    Actually, I meant to reply to RIX #2. This carbon contracts trading is heady stuff. I’m just giddy this morning.


  18. vagabond trader
    18 | March 12, 2010 06:30

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Abstinence at the age of 13 requires self control. I believe this may hurt a “childs” self esteem if suggested.//


  19. buzzsawmonkey
    19 | March 12, 2010 06:33

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Abstinence at the age of 13 requires self control. I believe this may hurt a “childs” self esteem if suggested.//

    You know, it’s funny, but the kids of decades past were up to the struggle, even if some of them lost.

    It seems as if a constant marination in the soup of self-esteem up to the age of puberty weakens the will.


  20. 20 | March 12, 2010 06:34

    @ rain of lead:

    I had my tar almost up to temperature. It was all bubbling ‘n shit. Had a couple of pillows for feathers, and was looking for a rail…


  21. 21 | March 12, 2010 06:36

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I think the Official NEA-approved classroom materials on the subject are titled “Fucking for Virginity – the New Abstinance”…


  22. buzzsawmonkey
    22 | March 12, 2010 06:39

    Green:

    Color of gullibility—”Do you see any green in my eye?” is an old saying that means, “Do you take me for a fool?”

    Color of envy—Envy, or jealousy, is often referred to as “the green-eyed monster.”

    Color of Islam—Look at the flags, the banners, the head- and armbands.


  23. rain of lead
    23 | March 12, 2010 06:39

    @ Iron Fist:

    here it is at Biggovernment

    Grassroots conservatives were rightly up in arms over Senator Corker’s game of footsie with far left Democrat Chris Dodd.

    …the comments are PISSED at Corker


  24. huckfunn
    24 | March 12, 2010 06:39

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    Shocka!Wee Weed is associated in this ponzy scheme.
    http://www.kickthemallout.com/article.php/Story-Obama_And_Chicago_Climate_Exchange

    The “Honorary” Chairman of the External Advisory Board is none other that the Honorable (gag-smirk) Richard M. Daley. Then look at the name just below his. Now are you reassured?


  25. PrincessNatasha
    25 | March 12, 2010 06:41

    What’s the opposite of “going green”? Because I am dying to get rid of my relatively new “green” car and buy an old gas-guzzling Jeep. Why? Because Jeeps are fun! Ugly little tin-can cars are not.


  26. PrincessNatasha
    26 | March 12, 2010 06:42

    The only “green” I like is when it comes to MONEY! Muahahahahaha!


  27. buzzsawmonkey
    27 | March 12, 2010 06:42

    Iron Fist wrote:

    I think the Official NEA-approved classroom materials on the subject are titled “Fucking for Virginity – the New Abstinance”…

    I’ll go home and get my condoms
    And some handcuffs for to bond ‘em
    And away we’ll go
    Oooh-oh-oh
    We will do our homework
    On what every girl and boy should know!


  28. Nevergiveup
    28 | March 12, 2010 06:42

    President Barack Obama hosted a movie night at the White House for Hollywood heavyweights Tom Hanks and director Steven Spielberg on Thursday – at which they watched a preview of the star duo’s new World War Two miniseries “The Pacific.”

    Gag me


  29. vagabond trader
    29 | March 12, 2010 06:43

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    We were more grounded. Pre drugs and casual morality.Parents at home were more mentor than best friend,plus they were allowed to kick our azz if we went out of control.Pretty weak if we cannot resist acting out twocats…..


  30. vagabond trader
    30 | March 12, 2010 06:44

    @ huckfunn:

    lol,not too long ago this would have had Mike Wallace pushing in your door. Oh wait…..


  31. 31 | March 12, 2010 06:46

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    It seems as if a constant marination in the soup of self-esteem up to the age of puberty weakens the will.

    They used to call self-esteem “peer pressure”. Now everyone is expected to jump off the bridge at the same time. No more exceptionalism allowed.


  32. 32 | March 12, 2010 06:48

    @ vagabond trader:

    What about Iceweasel?
    :twisted:


  33. Crashnburn01
    33 | March 12, 2010 06:48

    Green this, green that on everything. They repeat the mantra to the point of total indoctrination.

    I stopped recyling a few years ago whena trash man scolded me for not properly rinsing out a coke bottle. Also when I saw a “recycling” truck dump itself into the general dump.


  34. buzzsawmonkey
    34 | March 12, 2010 06:48

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    They used to call self-esteem “peer pressure”. Now everyone is expected to jump off the bridge at the same time. No more exceptionalism allowed.

    I’m sure there’s some cogent metaphor or connection between “peer pressure” and the pressure at the ocean depths that causes fish from those depths to explode when brought to the surface, but I can’t quite think of it yet.


  35. 35 | March 12, 2010 06:49

    Conservation is fine. I’m all for it, but this ‘green’ thing is too much. For example, my boyfriend needed architectural drawings for a job he’s working on. The architect said that since they have gone ‘green’ all layout drawings will be sent by email in pdf form. The trouble is, you can’t read them or print them out large enough to work on. These things have to be a couple of feet wide and long to use properly. He insisted they fedex the full printed out drawings, they resisted. Then finally they did. But what a farce and a waste of time.


  36. vagabond trader
    36 | March 12, 2010 06:49

    @ Iron Fist:

    Lets hope it doesn’t reproduce. :D


  37. Macker
    37 | March 12, 2010 06:50

    @ huckfunn:

    Quick! Someone tell Chicago Dude Who Trades about this! He could make US some money!

    /


  38. Macker
    38 | March 12, 2010 06:51

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Conservation is fine. I’m all for it, but this ‘green’ thing is too much. For example, my boyfriend needed architectural drawings for a job he’s working on. The architect said that since they have gone ‘green’ all layout drawings will be sent by email in pdf form. The trouble is, you can’t read them or print them out large enough to work on. These things have to be a couple of feet wide and long to use properly. He insisted they fedex the full printed out drawings, they resisted. Then finally they did. But what a farce and a waste of time.

    Ah, he could have also extorted them to purchase the biggest frakking monitor in the world to do his job!

    /


  39. RIX
    39 | March 12, 2010 06:52

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    Lets hope it doesn’t reproduce.

    It’s illegal, isn’t it? Weasel & Jimmah can’t legally procreate , right?


  40. buzzsawmonkey
    40 | March 12, 2010 06:52

    Oh, by the way, speaking of green—meat, when it goes bad, gets greenish, and the term “green meat” has long meant something that was a little “off.”

    During WWII, the enforcement of rationing in Britain led to raids where contraband meat was painted green, to render it unfit for consumption and to indicate it as such; this behavior is recorded in the Michael Palin comedy “A Private Function.”


  41. huckfunn
    41 | March 12, 2010 06:52

    Macker wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    Quick! Someone tell Chicago Dude Who Trades about this! He could make US some money!
    /

    I’ll trade you 10,000 contracts of magic beans for 3.8 trillion carbon contracts. What d’ya say?


  42. Macker
    42 | March 12, 2010 06:53

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:

    Lets hope it doesn’t reproduce. :D

    Sadly, it’ll still “…f**k and f**k and f**k and f**k and f**k and f**k and f**k and f**k…and f**k until it hurts and then f**k some more!”

    /God, I’m sarcastic this morning. Must be Friday!


  43. vagabond trader
    43 | March 12, 2010 06:53

    @ Urban Infidel:

    More proof librals never consider unintended consequences.


  44. Macker
    44 | March 12, 2010 06:54

    @ huckfunn:

    3.8 TRILLION UPDINGS!


  45. Macker
    45 | March 12, 2010 06:56

    And it just hit me. Islam’s Color of Rage, Seething, and War is…green.


  46. huckfunn
    46 | March 12, 2010 06:57

    @ Macker:
    It’s deal, then. I’ll meet you at the Federal Reserve and they can print the updings while we loiter over a couple of lattes.


  47. buzzsawmonkey
    47 | March 12, 2010 06:58

    @ Macker:

    See #22 upthread.


  48. 48 | March 12, 2010 06:58

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Urban Infidel:
    More proof librals never consider unintended consequences.

    No need to get anything real work done. It’s Libtopia. Everything happens through magic.


  49. Macker
    49 | March 12, 2010 06:59

    @ huckfunn:

    ROFLMAIAO*! I’ll take mine venti size, thank you very much!

    * – Rolling On the Floor, Laughing My American Infidel Ass Off


  50. Beer Drinking Victory Monkey
    50 | March 12, 2010 07:00

    That sickly pale shade of green is everywhere, too, even on things that aren’t “Green”, like Clear Internet. If your yard was that shade of green, you’d call a lawn doctor!


  51. Macker
    51 | March 12, 2010 07:00

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    GMTA!


  52. Macker
    52 | March 12, 2010 07:01

    @ Beer Drinking Victory Monkey:

    Hey You!


  53. 53 | March 12, 2010 07:02

    It’s been a heckuva week but this story seems to sum it all up.

    Democrats take classes to learn how not to sound soft on terror.
    Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.) attended one of Harman’s sessions when he was running for office in 2008. Now the president of the Democratic freshman class, he helped lead a session for other Democrats late last month. He said his party has to “avoid the trap of looking soft and weak” and that “there are strong adverbs, adjectives and verbs as opposed to weak.”

    One example he offered: “I’m going to fight for American interests abroad” as opposed to “I’m going to defend American values.”


  54. bar
    54 | March 12, 2010 07:04

    Going green in LA means something like this.

    When going to the Oscars fly into LAX on your personal Boeing 707, then drive the last few miles in a Toyota Prius.


  55. Nevergiveup
    55 | March 12, 2010 07:06

    Hey how come Obama is postponing his trip to Asia if Pelosi has the votes? Is someone greening me?


  56. buzzsawmonkey
    56 | March 12, 2010 07:08

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Hey how come Obama is postponing his trip to Asia if Pelosi has the votes? Is someone greening me?

    Ees Cheshire Cat green, my frien’.


  57. huckfunn
    57 | March 12, 2010 07:09

    @ Urban Infidel:

    One example he offered: “I’m going to fight for American interests abroad” as opposed to “I’m going to defend American values.”

    At the end of the training session it was Rahm-Rahmbo Deadfish who came up with the winning slogan – “If you don’t vote for this bill right now I’m gonna rip your heart out of your asshole and eat it in front of you”.


  58. buzzsawmonkey
    58 | March 12, 2010 07:15

    BTW, speaking of “green,” I noticed that Mad King Yertle gave me a whole thread last night—in which he accused me of posting under some nic I’ve never heard of, let alone used.

    I suppose I should be flattered to be getting the Glenn Beck treatment without even a blog of my own, let alone a Fox News program. Since Beck has flourished like the green bay tree since Mad King Yertle started attacking him, I can only assume that if this keeps up I will be battling Rush Limbaugh for talk radio supremacy in a matter of months.


  59. 59 | March 12, 2010 07:16

    @ bar:

    “I don’t know what I hate more. Limousine Liberals or Lear Jet Enviromentalists”. Character from State of Fear.


  60. African Moondog
    60 | March 12, 2010 07:19

    Macker wrote:

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:

    Lets hope it doesn’t reproduce.

    Sadly, it’ll still “…f**k and f**k and f**k and f**k and f**k and f**k and f**k and f**k…and f**k until it hurts and then f**k some more!”

    /God, I’m sarcastic this morning. Must be Friday!

    What you have said above is true. However, iron Fist, Rix and the rest should not worry about Ice Weasel procreating. She is an expert on butt hurt.


  61. huckfunn
    61 | March 12, 2010 07:19

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    @ bar:
    “I don’t know what I hate more. Limousine Liberals or Lear Jet Enviromentalists”. Character from State of Fear.

    I think that they’ve developed a co-op where they trade limo services for jet services and vice versa. You can now hate them equally.


  62. vagabond trader
    62 | March 12, 2010 07:21

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    this gem from icehole, star rodent at BVoofAF.Talk about newspeak.

    free from the constraints of moderation here.


  63. huckfunn
    63 | March 12, 2010 07:22

    Gotta go, folks. I have some sad business to attend to. My dear, sweet 13 year old black lab can no longer get up on her feet and we have an appointment with the vet.

    Later


  64. 64 | March 12, 2010 07:23

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    @ bar:
    “I don’t know what I hate more. Limousine Liberals or Lear Jet Enviromentalists”. Character from State of Fear.

    Oh? Did you read the latest about Sean Penn? What an ass! (link at drudge)


  65. buzzsawmonkey
    65 | March 12, 2010 07:24

    huckfunn wrote:

    Gotta go, folks. I have some sad business to attend to. My dear, sweet 13 year old black lab can no longer get up on her feet and we have an appointment with the vet.

    That is so sad. Prayers for you and her.


  66. African Moondog
    66 | March 12, 2010 07:25

    @ huckfunn:
    Sorry to hear that, it is tough having pets sometimes.


  67. 67 | March 12, 2010 07:25

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    You must have done something to really get under his skin. Coulda been the “Internet Manson” thingy. Congratulations! keep it up, and I’m sure you’ll be in Beck territory in no time :mrgreen:


  68. vagabond trader
    68 | March 12, 2010 07:26

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Ditto,it can be like losing a family member.


  69. 69 | March 12, 2010 07:26

    @ teacake:
    What? The rectal cancer comment or is this something new?


  70. Nevergiveup
    70 | March 12, 2010 07:27

    Anna Ayala will not be dining at a Wendy’s restaurant anytime soon.

    The woman who gained infamy in 2005 when she planted a severed finger in a bowl of Wendy’s chili is out of prison. One of the conditions of her probation is that she never set foot in the fast-food chain again.

    Nor will she be eating in my house


  71. vagabond trader
    71 | March 12, 2010 07:27

    @ Iron Fist:

    You and buzz would make an interesting duo on radio or cable. :twisted:


  72. vapig
    72 | March 12, 2010 07:30

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ rain of lead:
    I had my tar almost up to temperature. It was all bubbling ‘n shit. Had a couple of pillows for feathers, and was looking for a rail…

    You don’t have to look far. There is one right beside the Forrestal building.


  73. gulfloafer
    73 | March 12, 2010 07:31

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    BTW, speaking of “green,” I noticed that Mad King Yertle gave me a whole thread last night—in which he accused me of posting under some nic I’ve never heard of, let alone used.
    I suppose I should be flattered to be getting the Glenn Beck treatment without even a blog of my own, let alone a Fox News program. Since Beck has flourished like the green bay tree since Mad King Yertle started attacking him, I can only assume that if this keeps up I will be battling Rush Limbaugh for talk radio supremacy in a matter of months.

    You’ve proved yourself to be a measured individual capable of intelligent and independent thought. Therefore according to LGF doctrine you must be … ah hell just read Alinsky you get the picture.


  74. 74 | March 12, 2010 07:31

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Hey I saw the Jazz Man insulted you yesterday. He called you a Psychopath?

    He’s deranged seriously!


  75. 75 | March 12, 2010 07:32

    Sorry for the Houdini I pulled earlier. Virus alerts all over my laptop. In the desktop dinosaur now.

    I love the South. You can say the most despicable things about someone, follow it up with “Bless her heart” and you’re cool.


  76. 76 | March 12, 2010 07:32

    @ huckfunn:
    :(
    So sorry…..


  77. gulfloafer
    77 | March 12, 2010 07:33

    @ huckfunn:
    Sad news Huck. I wish you and yours the best.


  78. 78 | March 12, 2010 07:33

    @ gulfloafer:

    He he mentioned me as well earlier this week. My Nick Daedalus really got to him. Daedalus is Icarus’s dad.


  79. Speranza
    79 | March 12, 2010 07:34

    loppyd wrote:

    I love the South. You can say the most despicable things about someone, follow it up with “Bless her heart” and you’re cool.

    When a Southerner is your friend, you have a real friend.


  80. 80 | March 12, 2010 07:34

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    BTW, speaking of “green,” I noticed that Mad King Yertle gave me a whole thread last night—in which he accused me of posting under some nic I’ve never heard of, let alone used.

    That’s pretty nuts.


  81. snork
    81 | March 12, 2010 07:34

    @ huckfunn:
    That’s really interesting that it started to go to hell before Climategate, and was was pretty much flatlined by the time it happened.

    The traders knew.


  82. 82 | March 12, 2010 07:34

    Rodan wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Hey I saw the Jazz Man insulted you yesterday. He called you a Psychopath?
    He’s deranged seriously!

    Buzz a psycho? To continue with the Southern theme, Husky Blogger has dropped his basket.


  83. 83 | March 12, 2010 07:35

    @ Speranza:


    When a Southerner is your friend, you have a real friend.

    Best drinking buddies, but I can’t drink their Wild Turkey Whiskey!


  84. buzzsawmonkey
    84 | March 12, 2010 07:35

    Iron Fist wrote:

    You must have done something to really get under his skin.

    Well, that’s not difficult. There’s so much of it, n’est-ce pas?


  85. Speranza
    85 | March 12, 2010 07:35

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    That guy (Chuck) is one thin skinned, prickly dude! I see that his impending nuptials has not mellowed him out at all.


  86. 86 | March 12, 2010 07:36

    huckfunn

    So, so sorry. Hugs to her from a lab lover.


  87. 87 | March 12, 2010 07:36

    @ loppyd:

    Yup, he really insulted him and Buzz was the topic of discussion for the first part of a thread. Buzz is big time now, the Jazz Man hates him!


  88. vagabond trader
    88 | March 12, 2010 07:36

    @ Speranza:

    Hes on the fruit and water diet,not conducive to mellow.


  89. KGB
    89 | March 12, 2010 07:37

    huckfunn wrote:

    Gotta go, folks. I have some sad business to attend to. My dear, sweet 13 year old black lab can no longer get up on her feet and we have an appointment with the vet.
    Later

    My condolances. I lost my 13 year old golden last year and it was a mighty struggle to get through it. My prayers are with you. Hopefully your lab can meet up with my golden this afternoon.


  90. Speranza
    90 | March 12, 2010 07:37

    Rodan wrote:

    Best drinking buddies, but I can’t drink their Wild Turkey Whiskey!

    When a Southerner befriends you, then his entire family is at your service. You never need to stay at a motel when you are visiting that’s for sure. My Dad told me that. Once they get to know you, you have a friend for life.


  91. RIX
    91 | March 12, 2010 07:37

    @ African Moondog:
    What you have said above is true. However, iron Fist, Rix and the rest should not worry about Ice Weasel procreating. She is an expert on butt hurt.

    I hope you’re right, the gene pool is at stake.


  92. 92 | March 12, 2010 07:37

    Best drinking buddies, but I can’t drink their Wild Turkey Whiskey!

    I can’t drink whiskey of any persuasion. They don’t call me ‘lightweight loppy’ for no reason. :)


  93. buzzsawmonkey
    93 | March 12, 2010 07:38

    Rodan wrote:

    Buzz is big time now

    Ah, would that were so.

    But as I said above, it seems that the surest way to success is to become the target of Mad King Yertle’s ire—so I expect the wealth and fame to start rolling in any time now.


  94. Speranza
    94 | March 12, 2010 07:38

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Hes on the fruit and water diet,not conducive to mellow.

    From the photos of him I still think he spends an inordinate amount of time at fast food joints.


  95. 95 | March 12, 2010 07:38

    @ Speranza:

    It’s true, there are still Native Southerners here in the Tampa area, great people!


  96. vapig
    96 | March 12, 2010 07:38

    Crashnburn01 wrote:

    Green this, green that on everything. They repeat the mantra to the point of total indoctrination.
    I stopped recyling a few years ago whena trash man scolded me for not properly rinsing out a coke bottle. Also when I saw a “recycling” truck dump itself into the general dump.

    That did it for me too. As soon as I found out there really isn’t any recycling anything in VA I stopped. Why bother?

    Visiting my relatives in CA I was shocked to find they had to wash their garbage before they could curb it for pick up. What insanity!


  97. snork
    97 | March 12, 2010 07:39

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Parents at home were more mentor than best friend, plus they were allowed to kick our azz if we went out of control.

    Ding, ding, ding!!! And all of this divorce, which the left is actively encouraging is just setting families up for a spoilage contest.


  98. vagabond trader
    98 | March 12, 2010 07:39

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    U R inside hiz hedd!


  99. 99 | March 12, 2010 07:39

    @ loppyd:

    I stick to Beer, Wine and Vodka.


  100. gulfloafer
    100 | March 12, 2010 07:39

    Rodan wrote:

    @ gulfloafer:
    He he mentioned me as well earlier this week. My Nick Daedalus really got to him. Daedalus is Icarus’s dad.

    The walls must be closing in on him. Did you use that nic for a sock over there? If you did that is genius.


  101. Speranza
    101 | March 12, 2010 07:39

    loppyd wrote:

    I can’t drink whiskey of any persuasion. They don’t call me ‘lightweight loppy’ for no reason.

    Speaking of “drinking” – I have pretty much given up on coffee. I tend to gag too much on it because of the acid reflux.


  102. 102 | March 12, 2010 07:40

    @ gulfloafer:

    I used it on Dangerous minds and here as well.

    Watch!


  103. 103 | March 12, 2010 07:42

    @ gulfloafer:

    Icarus is a bad bad boy!


  104. The Osprey
    104 | March 12, 2010 07:42

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    But as I said above, it seems that the surest way to success is to become the target of Mad King Yertle’s ire—so I expect the wealth and fame to start rolling in any time now.

    I had to look up Yertle the Turtle on wiki. Didn’t realize that it was a Dr. Seuss character. I was getting it confused with Bert The Turtle, the Civil Defense cartoon character from the 50′s (Duck and cover).


  105. 105 | March 12, 2010 07:43

    @ Rodan:

    I have had a tragic development in that I have developed an allergy to the sulfates in red wine. Organics are sulfate free, but very pricey. I’ll stick with Miller Lite, Coronas, or vodka pink drinks (AKA jackass specials).


  106. gulfloafer
    106 | March 12, 2010 07:43

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    Buzz is big time now
    Ah, would that were so.
    But as I said above, it seems that the surest way to success is to become the target of Mad King Yertle’s ire—so I expect the wealth and fame to start rolling in any time now.

    You’d better start decorating your tip-jar.


  107. 107 | March 12, 2010 07:43

    @ loppyd:

    you should check out Asahi Japanese Beer.


  108. 108 | March 12, 2010 07:44

    @ Speranza:

    Good for you.

    I’d be a bitch on wheels without my morning coffee.


  109. gulfloafer
    109 | March 12, 2010 07:44

    Daedalus wrote:

    @ gulfloafer:
    Icarus is a bad bad boy!

    Beautiful!


  110. snork
    110 | March 12, 2010 07:44

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    1 Charles Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:16:59pm

    “CaptainAmerica” is the misogynistic lunatic who used the name “buzzsawmonkey” at LGF.

    4 Obdicut Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:19:52pm

    Charles, I’d like to remind you that it’s far easier to sue for libel and slander in the UK than it is here in the US.

    Did Obdi survive the night?


  111. 111 | March 12, 2010 07:45

    Daedalus wrote:

    @ loppyd:
    you should check out Asahi Japanese Beer.

    OK. I’ll see if they have it the next time we go to sushi.


  112. The Osprey
    112 | March 12, 2010 07:45

    loppyd wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    I have had a tragic development in that I have developed an allergy to the sulfates in red wine. Organics are sulfate free, but very pricey. I’ll stick with Miller Lite, Coronas, or vodka pink drinks (AKA jackass specials).

    Loppy! What are you going to do? I’d go nuts if I couldn’t have a nice glass of Sangiovese with spaghetti, lasagne or pizza… that’s gotta be a bummer!


  113. PrincessNatasha
    113 | March 12, 2010 07:48

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    I’ll go home and get my condoms
    And some handcuffs for to bond ‘em
    And away we’ll go
    Oooh-oh-oh
    We will do our homework
    On what every girl and boy should know!

    If they major in Engineering, or any other real subjects, they will not have the TIME to shag and be stoopid. Trust me. I am on my 3rd year in Engineering and after my divorce it is better than a chastity belt!


  114. snork
    114 | March 12, 2010 07:49

    loppyd wrote:

    I can’t drink whiskey of any persuasion. They don’t call me ‘lightweight loppy’ for no reason. :)

    And you call yourself Irish?


  115. 115 | March 12, 2010 07:49

    @ The Osprey:

    I lay down the cash for a bottle of organic. It’s tough when I’m out to dinner, though. :(


  116. PrincessNatasha
    116 | March 12, 2010 07:50

    loppyd wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    I have had a tragic development in that I have developed an allergy to the sulfates in red wine. Organics are sulfate free, but very pricey. I’ll stick with Miller Lite, Coronas, or vodka pink drinks (AKA jackass specials).

    OMG… I mourn with you! But vodka is fabulous and is a blank canvas to create your own drinkable art… Kalashnikov vodka is organic BTW… Plus it comes in a cool AK-47-shaped bottle…


  117. 117 | March 12, 2010 07:50

    @ snork:

    And you call yourself Irish?

    It’s a source of shame for the family.


  118. snork
    118 | March 12, 2010 07:51

    PrincessNatasha wrote:

    If they major in Engineering, or any other real subjects, they will not have the TIME to shag and be stoopid. Trust me. I am on my 3rd year in Engineering and after my divorce it is better than a chastity belt!

    But a really clever engineer figures out how to modify a sawsall.


  119. gulfloafer
    119 | March 12, 2010 07:51

    @ Daedalus:
    I was watching the History channel a while back about some military guys getting ready for an assault; they called it “jocking up” I guess the intertube version would be ‘socking up?’ Time to sock- up boys, we’re going into the swamp. Some of you might not be make back with your socks intact …


  120. 120 | March 12, 2010 07:52

    @ PrincessNatasha:

    Now that would be a conversation starter at a party!


  121. PrincessNatasha
    121 | March 12, 2010 07:52

    loppyd wrote:

    I lay down the cash for a bottle of organic. It’s tough when I’m out to dinner, though

    Make the MAN pay for it. Yeah, sounds old-fashioned and asshole-y but them’s the breaks. (don’t mind me being obnoxious, I have a hangover and a fire scare to use as excuses)


  122. 122 | March 12, 2010 07:54

    @ PrincessNatasha:

    It all comes out of the same pot since I’m all married off now. Except my own little loppy fun checking account, of course.


  123. Nevergiveup
    123 | March 12, 2010 07:55

    PrincessNatasha wrote:

    Make the MAN pay for it. Yeah, sounds old-fashioned and asshole-y but them’s the breaks. (don’t mind me being obnoxious, I have a hangover and a fire scare to use as excuses)

    A real man always pays for it. Well in one way or another?


  124. 124 | March 12, 2010 07:55

    Oh and happy it was only a fire scare. Yikes!


  125. bar
    125 | March 12, 2010 07:55

    @ teacake:
    That is someone I sure hope to see around some day.
    I would enjoy being punched by that punk -$$$$$$$-
    but he would probably need a step stool to reach me.


  126. gulfloafer
    126 | March 12, 2010 07:55

    snork wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    1 Charles Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:16:59pm
    “CaptainAmerica” is the misogynistic lunatic who used the name “buzzsawmonkey” at LGF.
    4 Obdicut Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:19:52pm
    Charles, I’d like to remind you that it’s far easier to sue for libel and slander in the UK than it is here in the US.
    Did Obdi survive the night?

    Sounds like Obdi is suggesting that selrahC move to the UK? Hmmm


  127. Speranza
    127 | March 12, 2010 07:55

    snork wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    1 Charles Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:16:59pm
    “CaptainAmerica” is the misogynistic lunatic who used the name “buzzsawmonkey” at LGF.

    4 Obdicut Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:19:52pm
    Charles, I’d like to remind you that it’s far easier to sue for libel and slander in the UK than it is here in the US.

    Did Obdi survive the night?

    Cato referring to anyone as misogynistic is hilarious.


  128. Nevergiveup
    128 | March 12, 2010 07:55

    loppyd wrote:

    @ PrincessNatasha:

    It all comes out of the same pot since I’m all married off now. Except my own little loppy fun checking account, of course.

    Yeah I still don’t get that after 26 years. My money is our money and her money is her money????


  129. PrincessNatasha
    129 | March 12, 2010 07:56

    snork wrote:

    But a really clever engineer figures out how to modify a sawsall.

    True. If they have TIME. If they have an Egyptian professor for their Heat Transfer and Thermodynamics class who looks like Ahmadinnerjacket, knows it, is an atheist and has a sick sense of humor, you are Shite out of Luck. He is notorious for his academic brutality. He made his own daughter cry when she had to take his class. Because all you do in your spare time is wonder how you can pass…


  130. 130 | March 12, 2010 07:57

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Yeah I still don’t get that after 26 years. My money is our money and her money is her money????

    Yes. LOL


  131. Alberta Oil Peon
    131 | March 12, 2010 07:57

    RIX wrote:

    @ teacake:
    He RIX, I’ve got some crystals if ya need any
    Morning Teacake. Um, maybe a lava lamp?

    I want me a larva lamp. A glass cylinder filled with formaldehyde, and a bunch of dead maggots that drift gently up and down on the convection currents.


  132. Macker
    132 | March 12, 2010 07:58

    OFF TOPIC: al-Reuters sure screwed up


  133. 133 | March 12, 2010 07:58

    BBIAB


  134. bar
    134 | March 12, 2010 07:59

    @ vagabond trader:
    Buzz is inside his head, yodeling a great song parody and the entire interwebs can hear the echo……..


  135. 135 | March 12, 2010 08:00

    @ Alberta Oil Peon:

    Wouldn’t live maggots me more fun? Then they’d be all twisty and crawly kinda like rice on LSD…


  136. PrincessNatasha
    136 | March 12, 2010 08:00

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    A glass cylinder filled with formaldehyde, and a bunch of dead maggots that drift gently up and down on the convection currents.

    AAAAAAAAAGHHHH! Convection again!!!! Please, stop the torture!!!!! I’ve been studying convection and laminar and turbulent flows all Spring Break. I hate you!


  137. Macker
    137 | March 12, 2010 08:00

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    I want me a larva lamp. A glass cylinder filled with formaldehyde, and a bunch of dead maggots that drift gently up and down on the convection currents.

    Better those dead maggots than…Rasputin…drifting gently up and down on the convection currents.


  138. Speranza
    138 | March 12, 2010 08:02

    loppyd wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Good for you.
    I’d be a bitch on wheels without my morning coffee.

    I dont miss it nearly as much as I thought I would.


  139. gulfloafer
    139 | March 12, 2010 08:03

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    @ teacake:
    He RIX, I’ve got some crystals if ya need any
    Morning Teacake. Um, maybe a lava lamp?
    I want me a larva lamp. A glass cylinder filled with formaldehyde, and a bunch of dead maggots that drift gently up and down on the convection currents.

    I want a girl with a short skirt and long jacket.


  140. 140 | March 12, 2010 08:05

    @ Speranza:

    Better you than moi. :)

    Have a good morning, kids. I have to get started on this project!


  141. Nevergiveup
    141 | March 12, 2010 08:05

    Ben Roth… QB for the Steelers now says he did have consenual comtact with the 20 year old girl but not intercourse? Right before she slipped and hit her head? OK?


  142. snork
    142 | March 12, 2010 08:05

    PrincessNatasha wrote:

    AAAAAAAAAGHHHH! Convection again!!!! Please, stop the torture!!!!! I’ve been studying convection and laminar and turbulent flows all Spring Break. I hate you!

    Ok, now add phase change, and you get why the greenhouse effect doesn’t really apply to the troposphere. :twisted:


  143. 143 | March 12, 2010 08:06

    @ gulfloafer:

    Love Cake!

    I want a girl with a mind like a diamond….

    Really gone now.


  144. 144 | March 12, 2010 08:07

    @ Macker:
    Oh? That explains a few things. I like this explanation as well. :)


  145. 145 | March 12, 2010 08:08

    OT:

    When Israel refused to submit its sovereignty to a hostile Arabist U.S. Administration VP Joe Biden had a private hissy-fit.

    What is interesting however (since over privileged US politicians isn’t new) is how Biden ties the success of our troops in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq to building homes for Jews in Israel.

    People who heard what Biden said were stunned. “This is starting to get dangerous for us,” Biden castigated his interlocutors. “What you’re doing here undermines the security of our troops who are fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. That endangers us and it endangers regional peace.”

    The vice president told his Israeli hosts that since many people in the Muslim world perceived a connection between Israel’s actions and US policy, any decision about construction that undermines Palestinian rights in East Jerusalem could have an impact on the personal safety of American troops fighting against Islamic terrorism.

    Is this guy completely nuts? I want nothing but the safety of American troops ANYWHERE, but I’m sorry Mr. Biden if they are in harms way it isn’t because Jews decided to build homes.


  146. 146 | March 12, 2010 08:09

    @ loppyd:

    I’m stunned. I didn’t know you were in theater…


  147. Alberta Oil Peon
    147 | March 12, 2010 08:09

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Well, the story is accurate, she has accepted the blame for her misdeeds, and is contrite. Kind of a refreshing change from the usual run of whiny criminals that refuse to take the blame for their own misdeeds.


  148. 148 | March 12, 2010 08:10

    OT:

    What they hey man….don’t these people read the Bible?

    An unholy campaign: Presbyterian Church elders are poised to defame Israel


  149. Nevergiveup
    149 | March 12, 2010 08:10

    @ WrathofG-d:
    Biden’s a jackass. And we agree on something I see?
    /


  150. vapig
    150 | March 12, 2010 08:13

    huckfunn wrote:

    Gotta go, folks. I have some sad business to attend to. My dear, sweet 13 year old black lab can no longer get up on her feet and we have an appointment with the vet.
    Later

    Dang – that’s a rough one. I’m realy sorry to hear that. I’ll say a prayer for you!


  151. 151 | March 12, 2010 08:14

    @ WrathofG-d:

    their Presbyterians. They’ve moved beyond the “Bible” nonsense into a more Leftist reasoned, post-Christian kind of “Christianity”.


  152. vapig
    152 | March 12, 2010 08:15

    loppyd wrote:

    Sorry for the Houdini I pulled earlier. Virus alerts all over my laptop. In the desktop dinosaur now.
    I love the South. You can say the most despicable things about someone, follow it up with “Bless her heart” and you’re cool.

    LOLOL! That’s true!


  153. 153 | March 12, 2010 08:15

    @ Iron Fist:

    ah. Yea, we got those too I am afraid.

    hey, e-mail me at WrathofG-d@hotmail.com please.


  154. mfhorn
    154 | March 12, 2010 08:17

    @ WrathofG-d:

    F*** ‘Palestine’


  155. PrincessNatasha
    155 | March 12, 2010 08:18

    WrathofG-d wrote:

    Is this guy completely nuts? I want nothing but the safety of American troops ANYWHERE, but I’m sorry Mr. Biden if they are in harms way it isn’t because Jews decided to build homes.

    I am about sick and tired of anti-Semitism hidden into “Realpolitik”… I was sick of it with the Russians, I will be damned if I ignore it here. As to troops being in harm’s way… Has anyone frickin bothered to ask the American Troops about the matter? Last I checked, people KNOW the risks when they join, because it is a VOLUNTEER military. AND WTF is up with bowing to Muslims, yet again? They seethe at the drop of a hat, like a PMS’ing spoiled wife. Not only that, they are guilty of advocating fascism and mass murder. It is thoroughly disgusting when Jews get blamed for a problem they clearly did not create.


  156. vapig
    156 | March 12, 2010 08:20

    Speranza wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    Best drinking buddies, but I can’t drink their Wild Turkey Whiskey!
    When a Southerner befriends you, then his entire family is at your service. You never need to stay at a motel when you are visiting that’s for sure. My Dad told me that. Once they get to know you, you have a friend for life.

    Shoot! I have cousins I’ve never even met on FB that are now my BFFs.


  157. 157 | March 12, 2010 08:20

    @ WrathofG-d:

    on the way…


  158. Aladin Sane
    158 | March 12, 2010 08:20

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Ben Roth… QB for the Steelers now says he did have consenual comtact with the 20 year old girl but not intercourse? Right before she slipped and hit her head? OK?

    I don’t know how anyone with the prospects that Ben has ends up in situations like he does. What is it, two assault charges he’s still battling? Kiss any major endorsements goodbye.


  159. vapig
    159 | March 12, 2010 08:22

    Daedalus wrote:

    @ gulfloafer:
    Icarus is a bad bad boy!

    :mrgreen:


  160. 160 | March 12, 2010 08:25

    @ PrincessNatasha:

    Hey it’s Rodan! This name makes fun of Icarus’s! Daedalus is the father of Icarus! Just like I’m a Jazz Man’s daddy!

    :-)


  161. vapig
    161 | March 12, 2010 08:25

    loppyd wrote:

    @ snork:
    And you call yourself Irish?
    It’s a source of shame for the family.

    You just made me LOL at work!!!


  162. vapig
    162 | March 12, 2010 08:34

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ WrathofG-d:
    their Presbyterians. They’ve moved beyond the “Bible” nonsense into a more Leftist reasoned, post-Christian kind of “Christianity”.

    My Pastor hs been into Revelations lately so my church has been. eating, drinking and making merry – as tomorrow we die!”

    Seriously, at least I know who the Whore of Babylon is now….


  163. mjazz
    164 | March 12, 2010 08:40

    Iron Fist wrote:

    It’s in all the schools — green is good, kind, and moral.
    The same people who freak out if you teach kids that not having sex is one way to ensure that you don’t get pregnant because it is “teaching morality” (it also happens to be true, but don’t let facts get in your way) apparently don’t mind teaching morality as long as it is the Right (by which I mean Left) morality. Funny, ain’t it?

    Teach the kids to give up their computer games, computers, and cars for a green world and see how that flies.


  164. mjazz
    165 | March 12, 2010 08:41

    @ vapig:
    Who is the whore of Babylon?


  165. vapig
    166 | March 12, 2010 08:43

    mjazz wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:
    It’s in all the schools — green is good, kind, and moral.
    The same people who freak out if you teach kids that not having sex is one way to ensure that you don’t get pregnant because it is “teaching morality” (it also happens to be true, but don’t let facts get in your way) apparently don’t mind teaching morality as long as it is the Right (by which I mean Left) morality. Funny, ain’t it?
    Teach the kids to give up their computer games, computers, and cars for a green world and see how that flies.

    That’s so 90′s. Take their phones: no tweeting, texting, camera phones, etc. They’d grab up the pichforks and torched before you could text: WTF???


  166. vapig
    167 | March 12, 2010 08:45

    mjazz wrote:

    @ vapig:
    Who is the whore of Babylon?

    The whole world. Nobody is innocent – everybody has partaken. It’s our whole infrastructure, commerce – everything. The culmination of all our forward human advancement that has led us to the modern world that we live in today.


  167. PrincessNatasha
    168 | March 12, 2010 08:47

    Daedalus wrote:

    @ PrincessNatasha:
    Hey it’s Rodan! This name makes fun of Icarus’s! Daedalus is the father of Icarus! Just like I’m a Jazz Man’s daddy!

    LOL… “Who’z yer DADDY!!!”


  168. PrincessNatasha
    169 | March 12, 2010 08:49

    vapig wrote:

    Seriously, at least I know who the Whore of Babylon is now….

    It’s ME!!!!! LOL


  169. snork
    170 | March 12, 2010 08:53

    vapig wrote:

    mjazz wrote:
    @ vapig:
    Who is the whore of Babylon?
    The whole world. Nobody is innocent – everybody has partaken. It’s our whole infrastructure, commerce – everything. The culmination of all our forward human advancement that has led us to the modern world that we live in today.

    And that’s ON TOPIC. There’s one of the roots of this green stuff: the idea that modern capitalism and industry is somehow evil on its face.

    Western civilization has this autoimmune disease. It hates its own achievements.


  170. snork
    171 | March 12, 2010 08:54

    PrincessNatasha wrote:

    vapig wrote:
    Seriously, at least I know who the Whore of Babylon is now….
    It’s ME!!!!! LOL

    No, you’re from Magog.


  171. vapig
    172 | March 12, 2010 08:54

    PrincessNatasha wrote:

    vapig wrote:
    Seriously, at least I know who the Whore of Babylon is now….
    It’s ME!!!!! LOL

    :smile: STOP THAT!!!


  172. vapig
    173 | March 12, 2010 08:55

    snork wrote:

    PrincessNatasha wrote:
    vapig wrote:
    Seriously, at least I know who the Whore of Babylon is now….
    It’s ME!!!!! LOL
    No, you’re from Magog.

    Ohhhhh! Ezekiel 38-39 are a comin!!!


  173. buzzsawmonkey
    174 | March 12, 2010 08:55

    The Unicorn
    —apologies to Shel Silverstein and the Irish Rovers

    A long time ago, when Johnson was lean,
    He had a lot of posters on a site called “Green”
    The foibles of the day they would discuss with scorn
    And none of them believed in silly unicorns.

    There were some believing Christians, atheists too
    Some gun nuts and some poets, and a mix of Jews
    Conservatives and liberals, but sure as you’re born
    Not one of them believed in silly unicorns.

    Then Johnson found a weasel with fur soft and warm
    Who said, “Let me come in and play, too–what could be the harm?”
    He forgot that rabid animals will scratch and bite
    And it went for everyone in sight.

    It started biting believing Christians, atheists too
    Some gun nuts and some poets, and a mix of Jews
    Conservatives and liberals, but it said, “For fear of horns,
    One thing that I will never bite is unicorns.”

    Johnson started eating Cheetos, potato chips too,
    And as his waist expanded, paranoia grew—
    He started seeing enemies, his mind grew sick
    And he got himself a banning stick.

    He started banning believing Christians, atheists too
    Some gun nuts and some poets, and a mix of Jews
    Conservatives and liberals, and one fine morn
    He even started to believe in unicorns.

    One who goes seeking enemies is quite a dope
    ‘Cause quickly you’re a-sliding down a slippery slope
    Johnson decided he’d make his site globally warm
    For anyone who won’t believe in unicorns.

    So the believing Christians, atheists too
    Some gun nuts and some poets, and a mix of Jews
    Conservatives and liberals decided, best be gone
    Rather than be forced to believe in unicorns.

    Johnson stands the solid emperor of his own site
    And the weasel capers ’round his feet both day and night
    The folks who’ve turned their backs on him view him with scorn
    And he’s butthurt ’cause he’s sitting on a unicorn.

    Yes, the believing Christians, atheists too
    Some gun nuts and some poets, and a mix of Jews
    Conservatives and liberals are all ignorin’
    The idiot who now believes in unicorns.


  174. vapig
    175 | March 12, 2010 09:00

    snork wrote:

    vapig wrote:
    mjazz wrote:
    @ vapig:
    Who is the whore of Babylon?
    The whole world. Nobody is innocent – everybody has partaken. It’s our whole infrastructure, commerce – everything. The culmination of all our forward human advancement that has led us to the modern world that we live in today.

    And that’s ON TOPIC. There’s one of the roots of this green stuff: the idea that modern capitalism and industry is somehow evil on its face.
    Western civilization has this autoimmune disease. It hates its own achievements.

    As I’ve said before, everything goes back to God for me. In the beginning God told us to go forth and be fruitful – to cultivate the Earth. To me these commie greens are on the payroll of the devil – whether they know it or not they are doing his bidding. Because what they want is for mindkind to suffer by destroying our standard of living.


  175. snork
    176 | March 12, 2010 09:02

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    And he’s butthurt ’cause he’s sitting on a unicorn.

    But some guys like it so far up their tailpipes you can see the exhaust valves.


  176. 177 | March 12, 2010 09:04

    The cartoon at this link – http://abstrusegoose.com/215 – kinda works for this thread, for me anyway.


  177. mjazz
    178 | March 12, 2010 09:04

    I like the AA speakers who start out- I grew up in a large Irish family in South Boston and of course there was no drinking…


  178. The Osprey
    179 | March 12, 2010 09:04

    WrathofG-d wrote:

    OT:

    What they hey man….don’t these people read the Bible?

    An unholy campaign: Presbyterian Church elders are poised to defame Israel

    Referencing a Jonathan Winters routine about Robin Hood from the 60′s, we need Friar Tuck to knock a few Presbyterians in the water.


  179. vapig
    180 | March 12, 2010 09:06

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    The Unicorn
    —apologies to Shel Silverstein and the Irish Rovers
    A long time ago, when Johnson was lean,
    He had a lot of posters on a site called “Green”
    The foibles of the day they would discuss with scorn
    And none of them believed in silly unicorns.
    There were some believing Christians, atheists too
    Some gun nuts and some poets, and a mix of Jews
    Conservatives and liberals, but sure as you’re born
    Not one of them believed in silly unicorns.
    Then Johnson found a weasel with fur soft and warm
    Who said, “Let me come in and play, too–what could be the harm?”
    He forgot that rabid animals will scratch and bite
    And it went for everyone in sight.
    It started biting believing Christians, atheists too
    Some gun nuts and some poets, and a mix of Jews
    Conservatives and liberals, but it said, “For fear of horns,
    One thing that I will never bite is unicorns.”
    Johnson started eating Cheetos, potato chips too,
    And as his waist expanded, paranoia grew—
    He started seeing enemies, his mind grew sick
    And he got himself a banning stick.
    He started banning believing Christians, atheists too
    Some gun nuts and some poets, and a mix of Jews
    Conservatives and liberals, and one fine morn
    He even started to believe in unicorns.
    One who goes seeking enemies is quite a dope
    ‘Cause quickly you’re a-sliding down a slippery slope
    Johnson decided he’d make his site globally warm
    For anyone who won’t believe in unicorns.
    So the believing Christians, atheists too
    Some gun nuts and some poets, and a mix of Jews
    Conservatives and liberals decided, best be gone
    Rather than be forced to believe in unicorns.
    Johnson stands the solid emperor of his own site
    And the weasel capers ’round his feet both day and night
    The folks who’ve turned their backs on him view him with scorn
    And he’s butthurt ’cause he’s sitting on a unicorn.
    Yes, the believing Christians, atheists too
    Some gun nuts and some poets, and a mix of Jews
    Conservatives and liberals are all ignorin’
    The idiot who now believes in unicorns.

    One of your best yet! And you wonder why you’re on his hit list?

    Personally, I think he’s more annoyed with himself for getting rid of the one rare talent he could boast on his site. Now he’s trying to discredit you in the hopes that nobody will remember how witty and brilliant you are.

    Too late!


  180. mjazz
    181 | March 12, 2010 09:07

    @ vapig:
    Yet, like Al Gore, they will be the ruling elite.
    The rest of us will be serfs.


  181. The Osprey
    182 | March 12, 2010 09:08

    mjazz wrote:

    @ vapig:
    Yet, like Al Gore, they will be the ruling elite.
    The rest of us will be serfs.

    The Osprey don’t serf.


  182. vapig
    183 | March 12, 2010 09:08

    mjazz wrote:

    @ vapig:
    Yet, like Al Gore, they will be the ruling elite.
    The rest of us will be serfs.

    Yea – it’s not exactly gonna turn out that way, if you know what I mean!


  183. mjazz
    184 | March 12, 2010 09:09

    @ WrathofG-d:
    They’ve been doing that a while now.


  184. snork
    185 | March 12, 2010 09:11

    The Osprey wrote:

    The Osprey don’t serf.

    They don’t even surf. They dive. I can’t think of any other birds that dive but don’t float.


  185. mjazz
    186 | March 12, 2010 09:13

    I wonder if the Presbyterians have any holdings in companies that do business with, say, China? (Is Tibet “occupied territory”)


  186. snowcrash
    187 | March 12, 2010 09:14

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Bravo, Buzz. You should post that at boingboing comments.


  187. snowcrash
    188 | March 12, 2010 09:15

    @ mjazz:
    MJazz are you from Southie?


  188. garycooper
    189 | March 12, 2010 09:16

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    That’s classic, Buzz. :)

    I’m a Silverstein-fan, and an Irish Rovers-fan.


  189. mjazz
    190 | March 12, 2010 09:17

    @ vapig:
    Talk about Last Day scenarios- what would happen if all the major highways were bombed or somehow all shipping to metropolitan areas ceased? They’d have enough food for a month or two, then they’d be eating pets, each other.. “My kingdom for a steak!”


  190. mjazz
    191 | March 12, 2010 09:18

    @ snowcrash:
    No, RI.


  191. mjazz
    192 | March 12, 2010 09:20

    @ snork:
    There were birds near me that used to spend most of their time underwater with just their head and necks out. The first time I saw one I looked quick and thought it was a snake. I thought they were cormorants.


  192. mjazz
    193 | March 12, 2010 09:23

    FUCK gravatar ☮


  193. chickadee
    194 | March 12, 2010 10:11

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    It’s been a heckuva week but this story seems to sum it all up.

    Democrats take classes to learn how not to sound soft on terror.
    Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.) attended one of Harman’s sessions when he was running for office in 2008. Now the president of the Democratic freshman class, he helped lead a session for other Democrats late last month. He said his party has to “avoid the trap of looking soft and weak” and that “there are strong adverbs, adjectives and verbs as opposed to weak.”

    One example he offered: “I’m going to fight for American interests abroad” as opposed to “I’m going to defend American values.”

    Courage isn’t something you can learn from taking a new age lib class.
    We have to get rid of these losers. These are the idiots who lost too much lunch money to bullies in grade school. They are hopeless.


  194. PrincessNatasha
    195 | March 12, 2010 10:57

    vapig wrote:

    Ohhhhh! Ezekiel 38-39 are a comin!!!

    Actually going to get my Bible to see what it is… (Hope I do not get zapped by a lightning bolt in the process)


  195. huckfunn
    196 | March 12, 2010 17:03

    huckfunn wrote:

    Gotta go, folks. I have some sad business to attend to. My dear, sweet 13 year old black lab can no longer get up on her feet and we have an appointment with the vet.
    Later

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    @ African Moondog:
    @ vagabond trader:
    @ Urban Infidel:
    @ gulfloafer:
    @ KGB:
    Thanks to all for your thoughts, prayers and kind words. We went to the vet and Pippie has returned home with us. The doc gave her a prescription that contains anti-inflamatories, pain killers and steroids for her severe arthritis. I think that she also may have had a stroke. We are day-to-day from here on out. Thanks again.


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