Saturday afternoon in the blogsphere…and an open thread with vids! There will be more to come from the EDL as the situation in UK develops.
Our EDL friends have sent us some videos from the London demonstration March 5th, so get a beverage of your choice , and enjoy some first hand looks at the March to support Geert Wilders:
EDL says: “Thanks for everything you have done for us mate we really have taken off like never before. Just thought id send you some of my favorites…..
Am i an Nazi? You’re not singing any more!
A lovely lady i met at the demo……
Sit down shut up!…
V is for victory….
Nazi scum off our streets…..
Communist UAF outside parliament…..
Again thanks to everyone.”
And Thank You, EDL…we are with you.
The March’s after actions report.
UPDATE, from EDL:
► Hot LinksAs many of you already know, the EDL has growing gay support comprised of people who are, like the rest of us, proud of our culture and heritage, but also especially concerned about the particularly virulent hatred that the Islamists reserve for gays. Islamic preachers have been filmed here in Britain calling for the execution of homosexuals, yet have faced little of the public outrage that is instead directed towards those who highlight the danger of this intolerance. We only expect our homosexual support to grow, based on the fact that the institutional left seems to be abandoning support for gay rights in the never-ending quest to appease their Islamist allies.
It has long been clear that the left has abandoned the Jews, whose rights they previously fought for, in order to secure support among Europe’s growing and increasingly-radicalised Muslim population, in which anti-Semitism is regrettably mainstream. This was driven home most strikingly when it was revealed that Jews who sought shelter in Sweden after the Second World War are now fleeing again, this time from Islamic attacks aided and abetted by the leftist government.
It now seems that, just like with the Jews, the left is unwilling to confront the fact that the main threat to the rights and freedoms of homosexual Britons comes from the Islamists and the blatantly and violently homophobic Sharia law that they promote. A gay EDL supporter and long-time member of the RMT transport union was threatened with expulsion from his union after writing his Regional Secretary to ask why the RMT played such a role in organising the pro-Islamisation and anti-free speech protests that greeted Geert Wilders’s visit to London and the EDL’s march in support. As the EDL member—who has now resigned in disgust from the RMT—put it:
“The EDL is an organisation opposed to the Islamification of Britain and further introduction of Sharia Law. As a gay man I feel very threatened by certain aspects of Sharia Law, and that’s why I fully support the efforts of the EDL.”
In the letter to the Regional Secretary, he also shared his bewilderment over how on earth he could be called a ‘Nazi’ and a “fascist,” as he was on Friday the 5th by people waving the RMT flag, for standing up with fellow Englishmen of all colours and from all walks of life against the far-right Sharia law that threatens his ability to live without fear as a gay man with equal rights.
As the left alienates more and more of their traditional support by making more and more concessions to the intolerance and hatred of the Islamists, they will find that when their Islamist allies eventually turn on them—as in the famous poem—no one will be left to speak up for them.
Tags: EDL, English Defense League
Big up the EDL!!!
hey knuckles, how are you?
Robert Spencer has an article up about a Pakistani ex-muslim who is a part of the EDL. Might want to check it out.
Good to see our American Friends getting first hand knowledge of situations as they arise in Britannia! Good work guys!
from jihad watch…
@ coldwarrior:
Doing great, CW. Thanks for putting up this post!
@ PJS:
there will be more in the future…i would have posted this earlier but i had super busy week…even now i am on eye in here and one eye on the work.
Whoa, hard to tell who is who, till the camera turns and the counter demos are holding up that big red flag with the hammer and sickle.
That clarifies things.
i’ll be in and out on this thread, there is some stuff i MUST get done.
Bless you boys! Give ‘em Hell!
I hope you’re not having to work on a Saturday, mate!
Thanks for putting up that link CW. I was reading along while eating dinner. lol
@ Knuckles:
Hes working on his golf swing.
@ Knuckles:
@ vagabond trader:
all work and no play makes cw a dull boy.
i’m studying….big exams coming up.
Anyone else having problems loading the page?
@ coldwarrior:
If you don’t mind me asking, what are you studying?
@ vagabond trader:
the server is awfully slow…it as if we are getting many page view requests at the same time…
This is what the world needs. An open confrontation with Islam on the medieval nature of that religion. What’s missing is the pushback. The pushback needs to be instigated at every level of society so that people come to realize the unhealthy nature of islam.
Some of the vids here have repeated url’s. The one with the lady is the same in the link below it.
thanks for the support guys
no surrender
@ huckfunn:
RN….doing a massive mid-life career change, from MS in econ/former job in management to medical in 18 months…FUN!
@ coldwarrior:
This is good.
What is going on in Ireland?
The Jewish lady with the Cockney accent, love her.
vagabond trader wrote:
Yes – earlier. Not so much now.
Love the videos – I’m glad to see the EDL getting positive press!
English Defence League homepage…for yinz to look at.
@ coldwarrior:
Good on you. I myself have considered nursing but not sure Ican do the physical part. I like to think I am smart enough to do it though. Good luck!
ujac wrote:
right now, you are the frontline against this muzzie garbage, so you get the ‘atta boyz’!
@ coldwarrior:
Cool. I had muchos fellowships with the RN’s a week ago today. Got me a shiny new Endeavor Zotarolimus-Eluting Coronary Stent plugged into my chest. Rode the ambulance to Seton Medical in Austin on Saturday and was posting goofing stuff on the Blogmeister Sunday evening. Good luck!
@ coldwarrior:
Where are you studying? Sewickley?
@ coldwarrior:
Nice.No surrender!
This is great! Stand up for the blond buffant! Love it!
@ NoThreat2U:
its not that bad, after you get past the first whiff of C-diff.
BLECH!
@ 25 coldwarrior: Bookmarked it.
For the critics who try and shut organizations like this down for various evil reasons. What do they have as an alternative? Or if they have nothing , then just what is their motive?
@ huckfunn:
Rotten US healthcare.
Just heard yank-jihadi tried to escape the paki’s and killed a guard there. Hope to read his obit soon!
Thanks for the support.
No surrender!
@ NoThreat2U:
nope, i’m at the campus past the b.v. mall with the large dome…again.
i was there as a freshman right out of the army in 92!
coldwarrior wrote:
Yes! No surrender!
orangecrush wrote:
maybe some of the EDL here now can answer this?
@ coldwarrior:
There is only one thing on this earth that makes me gag…and actually hurl. That is when someone hocks a lugey. That is so disgusting. lol Many people know not to do that in my presence. See, just typing about it is making me gag. lol lol
@ vagabond trader:
That was an amazing process. To feel so bad one day and then brand new the next. I used to always marvel at the fact that Dick Cheney would report to the hospital on one day following a cardiac event and he’d be walking out the door the next day waving with his usual smirk. Glad I got this done pre-hellcare.
@ coldwarrior:
Memories. The worst was this guy with end stage liver failure secondary to etoh abuse.Whats that horrid stuff we fed him to absorb ammonia and send it out bottomside. Gaaaaah!Oh yeah, he was on a waterbed.
EDL, kick some serious ass over there! We are with you.
/if I only had enough cash for a plane ticket to London.
@ vapig:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/6911925.html
this guy ? A very rotten egg. Yemen.
@ huckfunn:
Sure is, the Obot Panel would be offering you a pill depending on your age and whatever other spurious criteria.
Glad you’re doing well!
@ ujac:
@ Steve Infidel:
On the next video I want to see some blue painted faces, kilts and battle axes.
BBIAB
@ NoThreat2U:
You would not like suctioning a trach. Just sayin’
@ vagabond trader:
lactulose
OT/FYI
new dedicated Prayer List update email:
prayerlist2.0@gmail.com
@ 46 huckfunn: That would actually be a good marketing strategy start wearing Avatar blue. Take and hold the peaceful but willing to defend meme.
vagabond trader wrote:
Thanks, VB. In the movie “Logans’s Run” everyone went to “Renewal” at age 30. In reality the got blasted into vapor.
orangecrush wrote:
I was thinking more like Braveheart Blue with lots of blood.
jimash wrote:
Yep! That’s the guy. Fox got it wrong – they said Pakistan.
huckfunn wrote:
Yeah – but you those boys were fighting the English, right? We are allies of these English!
@ vapig:
Exactly! English, Scots and Welsh united against the koranimals.
@ huckfunn:
Oh yeah, I’m waaaay past that freshness date.
@ huckfunn:
Northern Irish too.
@ vapig:
A lot of this current trash traces to Yemen, and well known villains.
Apparently these weak-willed people pick up the I${@m online. Bad juju.
@ huckfunn:
wales
scotland
@ coldwarrior:
Thats the stuff,still using it? Brutal.
@ goddessoftheclassroom:
What a great idea,thanks goddess!
@ coldwarrior:
You have three identical links in your vid-link list.
A lovely lady i met at the demo……/Sit down shut up!…/V is for victory…. going all to the same vid.
vagabond trader wrote:
very, how shall i put it…olfactorally stimulating…
@ Guggi:
i know…i gotta edit.
@ coldwarrior:
Not sure I could take all that stimuli anymore and believe me there was plenty on a CA unit.
@ coldwarrior:
Fantastic! Glad to see that the movement is going nationwide.
It was an excellent day and the Met were spot on, this is gonna run people, the truth will out.
The EDL are Nazis ?…. Where are they then, was that him holding the big pink triangle, maybe it was the black bloke or the Jewish lady, or perhaps the white guy shouting “Nazi scum of our streets” ??
Nope, the EDL are people that say…
…”Militant Islam in the UK ?…..Sorry mate we’ve had enough….seriously enough !!”
And mean it… and if you mean it too you can join in.
@ wonderdog:
Best wishes,you guys are the firewall.
HEADS UP….
POST UPDATED, and new material to read…please check it out
OFF TOPIC: Оба́ма Akbar!
Gotta go get some things done. Remember to “spring forward” your clocks.
Later
@ coldwarrior:
Sharia? Far Right? BULL-SHIT!
They have nothing as an alternative and what’s worse is they do not want one.
All nations in Europe are facing the same horrendous threat, their is a programme of eradication of homogenous national identities going on throughout Europe. All the countries of Europe are being destabilised in this way. This isn’t quite ethnic cleansing but it is national identity cleansing so we all end up sucking milk from the big fat corrupt cow of the EU !! The UK and England in particular are being targeted first and hardest as we are the population with the most obvious and vocal dislike of the EU.
@ coldwarrior:
@ huckfunn:
Oh is that tonite ? Crap.
It is raining torrentially, and we are springing leaks top and bottom. Very disturbing leaks in places previously reconstructed to stop leaks. But it is really coming down.
I’m convinced. Keep up the good work mates.
Cheers chap….@ vagabond trader:
@ wonderdog:
i always thought the EU was a horrible fit for the UK.
thanks for the insight.
vagabond trader wrote:
Maybe you can find her a dentist ?
@ savage:
Join the EDL forum mate, you’ll find the lads are all cool and you will probably get invited over.
@ Macker:
it is a clunky sentence in that article.
Can’t believe I spelt “there” wrong,
Spinning too many plates as I write….
vagabond trader wrote:
Tell it lady.
orangecrush wrote:
I wouldn’t ask to strong for the motive of the EDL. And I wouldn’t ask to strong most of the EDL-protesters what the protest was all about
They would marsch for everything if their president of the club would tell them to do so.
wonderdog wrote:
Hey wonderdog,
Keep up the pressure on these 7th century barbarians. You Brits are an inspiration. And your courage greatly admired.
NoThreat2U wrote:
try being a plumber some time.lol
Guggi wrote:
That’s coming our way if the Death Care bill is passed. Dentists will become gov’t workers eventually too.
it’s all very well supporting gay rights but they are going to be the thing that destroys the catholic church under the banner of their human rights being violated.
they have already done it to the catholic adoption agency, the marriage thing is next.
@ Guggi:
Maybe you can get some of those Berlitz or Rosetta Stone tapes. It might help with your English.
a couple of old benders will say they want to get married in church and they will be turned down, and then they will take their case to the court of human rights, and then the shit will hit the fan.
i’m proud of guggi, she made it 70+ posts without going negative on EDL!
OT– Tell Kirly someone lost a sock named OldManC at 1:33PM. Next to go might be gegenkritic. And just for fun, there was this:
Now back to our regularly scheduled program.
Wait until the government gets hold of the Catholic hospitals under ObamaCare.
They will compel Catholic hospiale to perform abortions or force them out of business while citeing provisions of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
At least I believe that.
@ justin case:
does the papal see have to listen to the court? probably not, i would think.
@ Guggi:
typical rubbish, with friends like you in europe we certainly don’t need enemys.
RIX wrote:
thats a much bigger worry than some gays suing.
ok…bbl yinz hep catz!
dinner time!
mawskrat wrote:
In a sewage treatment plant. The guy who goes down in the hole.
snork wrote:
Talking about LGF again, are ya?
coldwarrior wrote:
I’m proud of you – afore a scoccer hater – now supporting the most fanatically and violently soccer fans. Don’t expect the Europeans to support them.
I used to (long time back) run the maintenance dept. at a large Health and Racquet club.
Cured me of much squeam.
You don’t want to know what random people do in Jacuzzis and Saunas.
RIX wrote:
They’re itching to do that now. That’ll shut down a good chunk of the private healthcare system. Maybe they’ll reopen on the Mexican border.
@ vagabond trader:
Sounds gross. I know what that is and probably wouldn’t do well with it. lol
If I may be so bold as to suggest a front page post, this article is dynamite, and the video therein is devastating: http://reason.com/blog/2010/03/12/david-brooks-obama-is-still-th
Hiya guys and gals hope you are all well over the pond?
I was wondering do any of you know a really good lawyer?
Looks like the press over here are cooking something up…..
MacDuff wrote:
Chunkles wouldn’t fit, and you wouldn’t be able to get the harness on him, anyway.
@ mawskrat:
I have! The main drain under the basement floor was clogged somewhere so I had to put on a glove and ram my hand down it. EEEWWWWW i was the only one whose hand fit in there. I had bruises up my arm from shoving it in there. lol
@ Mike Hughes:
Debbie Schlussel
@ MrPaulRevere:
Barack Obama & the DC School Voucher Program:
The Catholic church has currently enough problems with their pedophiles and the violence in their schools and boarding schools.
.
It’s a very realistic worry.I spend time around hospitals inclding Catholic networks. They are not going to perform abortions & if they get shut down, that is a very serious problem.
@ Guggi:
In a match between the Mohammedans and English Soccer Hooligans, I’ll take the English Soccer Hooligans every time!
Guggi wrote:
FTFY
Macker wrote:
Hell yes!
justin case wrote:
Hey Justin, the Catholic Church has done its utmost to destroy itself for a long time. It has nothing to say against Islam. The only Christians who are doing anything in this regard are the Evangelicals. Meantime, Christians all over the Muslim world are being butchered.
It is certainly good news that gays are becoming supporters of the EDL. With a broad-based coalition, the EDL is far less likely to be called fascists, or to really be fascists. We can have a lot of disagreements among ourselves, but we can all agree that Islam must be rolled back.
.
There is a shortage of medical providers now. If the Catholic hospitals are shut down many areas will be seriously underserved.
Guggi wrote:
Focus. Focus.
@ NoThreat2U:
It is,just have to get yourself in the right frame.Not so sure I could do it today, been 20 years.
@ sk (skzion):
Rather see gays supporting EDL than Queers for Palestine.
@ vagabond trader:
You bet.
@ vagabond trader:
I have spent the last 21 years raising my kids. Still am to a degree. lol Now that they are grown and I don’t have grandchildren, I need someone to take care of. Seriously considering nursing. My family won’t let me join the Peace Corp.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
Zero has been trying to shut down the voucher school program since he got into office. Zero does NOT want young people educated. He wants them indoctrinated. This is shameful. This is the way libs think.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Abuse Scandal in Germany Edges Closer to Pope
A widening child sexual abuse inquiry in Europe has landed at the doorstep of Pope Benedict XVI, as a senior church official acknowledged Friday that a German archdiocese made “serious mistakes” in handling an abuse case while the pope served as its archbishop.
Snip
@ Guggi:
The Church doesn’t have a problem with pedophiles. It has a problem with gay chickenhawks who were allowed to become priests.
I can count on one hand the number of stories I’ve read about priests molesting young girls, which is the usual pattern for pedophiles. It’s almost always early teen boys.
But gays are a protected class in the media today, so they have to lie about it.
@ sk (skzion):
yep cant argue with that.
Doppelganger wrote:
Have you a link or a contact number for her please?
And is she good with British law?
And speaking of same-sex “marriage”: Bert (Who is EVIL) and Ernie come out in support
@ Guggi:
And this happens no where else? Focus is right. You should be more concerned about the barbarians in your midst. Obviously the Church is looking into this and will handle it accordingly.
Guggi wrote:
Hi Icarus!
@ Guggi:
From your link:
As I was saying…
Macker wrote:
That’s who I’ll bet on too. Why coddle the head choppers? Enough of P.C. nonsense.
Child Abuse Scandal Reaches Catholic Church, Pope
It often starts as a voice in the wilderness, but can swell into an entire nation’s demand for truth. From Ireland to Germany, Europe’s many victims of child abuse in the Roman Catholic church are finally breaking social taboos and confronting the clergy to face its demons.
Ireland was the first in Europe to confront the church’s worldwide custom of shielding pedophile priests from the law and public scandal. Now that legacy of suppressed childhood horror is being confronted in other parts of the Continent — nowhere more poignantly than in Germany, the homeland of Pope Benedict XVI.
The recent spread of claims into the Netherlands, Austria and Italy has analysts and churchmen wondering how deep the scandal runs, which nation will be touched next, and whether a tide of lawsuits will force European dioceses to declare bankruptcy like join their American cousins.
Snip
@ chickadee:
It’s a disgrace, and a slap in the face to the African American community. Obama cynically takes them for granted.
@ Guggi:
you are on the wrong blog mate, hard core leftys like you should be over in the swamp, you anti christian bastard.
Mike Hughes wrote:
e-mail her from her blog
http://www.debbieschlussel.com
she stands up for what’s right. maybe she has contacts in Britain
@ NoThreat2U:
Nursing is an excellent choice,esp now and the pay is good. They work you though, make no mistake.There are lots of choices. Anyway it is recession proof,I joined the ranks during the end of the Carter horror.
You should check it out. If you have the energy and support of family,there are grants available.Clairol used to have a nice one for mature women.
That’s correct, almost invariably the victims are post-pubecent.
I had a neighbor who dropped out of the Seminary & talked often about the gay clubs & get togethers in the Seminary & how he was discriminated against.
It is an arrested development & gay problem & I am Catholic.
@ Doppelganger:
What about Pam Geller,Atlasshrugs,she knows lots of folks and supports EDL.
Guggi wrote:
Two can play that game.
@ NoThreat2U:
My editing skills blow. lol
snork wrote:
I didn’t start it but I’ll remember your advise next time you go OT befor the thread reaches #100.
Thank you for your advise, master.
@ vagabond trader:
another good choice. I didn’t know Pam was an atty. Pam is a patriot though
@ Guggi:
are you a muslim convert by any chance.
@ Doppelganger:
Don’t think Pam is an attorney but she ran the first EDL story and we know how she has been harassed about supporting “Eurofascists.”//
@ RIX:
I am, too (at least nominally).
The MSM has been allowed to get away with this lie for years. Words have meaning. The word “pedophile,” to a reader of the NY Times, means a middle-aged man who’s fondling elementary school-aged girls. They know damn well that’s not what’s happening in those cases, and they do nothing to correct the impression.
NoThreat2U wrote:
As they did for decades ?
@ Guggi:
I has been broken wide open now. They will handle it appropriately.
NoThreat2U wrote:
This is childish and you make the Pope a liar.
@ Guggi:
It’s a fair criticism. Every time the EDL comes up you start flinging veiled or open accusations of nazism at them, without any merit, then try and derail the conversation to a bunch of anti-christian and anti-western lefty talking points. Just who’s side are you on?
@ lobo91:
Could not agree with that more. A psychlogist from Notre Dame who happens to be a priest explained it that way. He said that it was a gay issue & that the priests that were involved had arrested sexual development.
In his opinion it had to do with early entry into Seminary.
Lots of good priests, but this issue has tro be taken on very
strong.
@ Guggi:
All I am saying is that the same thing may be said against many institutions. Bigot.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Because they are forced to it.
This actually presents an interesting parallel to the Hasan Nidal case, to some extent.
Just like the Army, the Catholic Church is a hierarchical and highly bureaucratized organization. This makes it easy to solve personnel problems by transferring people.
Just as there’s a shortage of psychiatrists in the Army, there’s a shortage of priests worldwide. In both cases, the organization is reluctant to get rid of people it sees as valuable resources in short supply, so it overlooks their behavior.
And Muslims in America, like gays, are a vocal minority who love to scream discrimination when you call them on their inappropriate behavior.
@ archonix:
It’s people like him that give you Euros a bad name. That is why there is so much animosity between us.
@ Guggi:
So. As long as it is taken care of. It is the destination that matters here, not the journey.
Don’t get me wrong, I have a strong affinity for the UK, Ireland, England and Europe in general (France has always been a bit problematic for me, but I’m working on it). They are definitely being Islamicized from within and, as Wonderdog alluded a while back, the vaunted EU is more of a help than a hinderance to that unfortunate process.
What concerns me is that the more the Islamicization progresses, the more radical the counter-process will have to be. I applaud the EDL in their attempt to preserve mother England.
Alas, I think that Mark Steyn may well be correct that plummeting birth rates among Europeans, combined with skyrcketing birth rates among the Mohammadens may well seal their fate.
As an aside, what I have never understood is why any American would want to emulate any part of the European political system, social system, health care system, welfare system or any other system that they have, particularly their taxation system. It seems to me that many of these systems have made them particularly ripe for the picking and have been major contributors to their current woes.
Instead of emulating them, maybe we should see their predicament as a cautionary tale.
@ RIX:
That, and an increasingly limited pool of candidates for the priesthood.
To some extent, they’re forced to take what they can get, and hope for the best.
Guggi wrote:
Evidently some do. Unless you think they’re all American plants, lol.
Hey Guggi, there’s a just released Director’s cut of Mr. Holland’s Opus.
Why don’t you do us all a big favor and go watch a movie.
@ MacDuff:
These are the same people who think the only problem with Communism is that it’s “never been properly done.”
lobo91 wrote:
A very astute point!
lobo91 wrote:
Gotta disagree with that one. Gay does not equal- piddles little boys. Pedophile does. They might have a problem with gay pedophiles as opposed to straight pedophiles but gay does not equal pedophile.
Doppelganger wrote:
@ m:
We’ve always had a reputation on the continent as drunken swearing bar brawlers. The goddams, they used to call us. The insults are the same, the only thing that changed is the precise wording.
@ Guggi:
yeah just keep telling your self there is no god but allah and mohammed is his messenger.
@ m:
I never said “gay equals pedophile.”
And these aren’t, for the most part, “little boys.”
They’re in their early teens.
Importance of the internet in catching jihadis.You’re welcome,ungrateful sobs.
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/201518.php
archonix wrote:
1) No one in Europe with one brain cell left will side with hooligans.
2) Smaller clubs like those which side with the EDL are still undercut with neo-Nazis.
3) I didn’t start to bring the Catholic church in this conversation.
4) Show me one posting before this thread where I lumped together the EDL and “anti-Christian” points.
5) Since when is it anti-Christian to mention that the Catholic church has currently enough problems with pedophiles and brutal violence in their schools and boarding schools ? Punishing the bearer of the message ? Is this all you are able to respond ?
Guggi wrote:
It is interesting that the Catholic church will address it’s problems but the muzz savages keep on fcking that chicken. . . . or goat, as the case may be.
They have made no attempt to reform their barbaric practices. From honor killings, head choppings, FGM, killing gays, marrying 6 year olds, bagging their women from head to toe and insisting on bringing this b.s. to the civilized world.
When these assholes are marching in the streets of Europe, I want them met by fierce and able men.
Congratulations English Defense League. America is proud of you.
At least those of us who know what is going on.
@ MacDuff:
This country was founded upon the premise that we did NOT want to emulate England/Europe, even though we dabbled in socialism early on. The power of capitalism turned a handful of colonies into the wealthiest and most powerful country in history in a relatively short amount of time. The folks who promote reversing that amazing success are either envious or ignorant of basic economic principles. Trimming the tall poppies doesn’t go over well here.
@ chickadee:
The reason the Muslims have made no attempt to reform those practices is that they don’t see them as needing reform.
They believe we are the ones who need reform, for not doing things their way.
1) Boohoo
2) Proof please
3) You did start throwing around pointless and unnecessary accusations
4) No
5) Whilst you may have some points in this instance, you have demonstrated many times your willingness to toss any European movement aimed at defending native culture against the Islamic threat under the proverbial bus. Your claims that nazism is rife in the EDL have been proven false time and time again yet you persist in attempting to spread them. You are simply a bigot. In fact you seem to be showing a tendency towards racism, in that you appear to be actively seeking to harm my people with your accusations.
I see what’s going on. Somebody is pissed off about the EDL thread, and can’t argue about the EDL, so picks a fight with the Catholics.
@ lobo91:
Unless they are molesting consenting adults they’re pedophiles that messed with kids. The comment read like gays are in and the gays messed with kids, sorry if I misunderstood.
My best friend is gay and he’d join a mob against anyone that messed with kids.
wait a second. wasn’t there a Christian preacher in Australia who was prosecuted for pointing out what the Bible actually says about homosexuality? so, why are these imams getting a free pass? again?
lobo91 wrote:
And that is exactly why making nice with these animals won’t work.
@ snork:
Bingo.
@ lobo91:
All I can say is that I went to Catholic schools for 12 years, and I have 9 cousins who did as well. Not one of us ever got so much as a hint that this sort of thing existed. That’s not a defense; it’s just my experience.
Are there pedophiles in the Catholic Preisthood? I think there have been too many absolute admissions to deny that. I do not think that it is as widespread as some would lead us to believe. Yes, the Church has handled these cases badly; they should have been investigated and the perps turned over to the authorities.
That said, I also think that pedophilia is by no means and “epidemic” in the Catholic Church and painting with too broad a brush tars innocent and decent people unfairly.
@ snork:
Spot on.
We shouldn’t feed Trolls.
@ Guggi:
you are as false as the anti semite that claims to be anti zionism.
you hate catholics and christans.
you are either a raving atheist or are smoking islamic pole.
Guggi sounds like the typical internetjihadi
you see on every forum in europe an US using
TAQIYYA to demonize every islam critic and try to
steer the dicussion away from the relevant points about islamic hate.
There are always a few jihadi’s that look like they adopt a forum to put a spin on every islam discussion and hide the thruth about the satanic nature of islam.
If you know what to look for you weed them out.
We must stimulate others to find out about
TAQIYYA and use it against these ff-ing muzzels.
Start finding out about
TAQIYYA here and share with everybody
http://www.ci-ce-ct.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=2
Some here are obviously unable to figure out who brought in the Catholic church in this thread.
Koranimals are the problem, not gays or Catholics.
Guggi wrote:
When the muzz force you into a burqa , you will be crying for brave men to protect you.
Your P.C. pure hearted appeasers will be useless.
@ m:
My point was that the term pedophile has a specific meaning in the minds of the average American. You know that as well as I do (and as well as the editors at most of our media outlets do).
The victims of classic pedophiles are girls under the age of about 10. That’s the mental picture people get when they hear that word.
They don’t think of men having sex with 14 year old boys, which is closer to the reality of most of these cases.
Yes, the predators in both instances have psychological problems, but it’s not the same condition.
oh fuck this thread, i must away to bed quickly afore i make a fool of my self.
snork wrote:
Exactly thats the use of
TAQIYYA.
http://www.ci-ce-ct.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=2
@ Guggi:
GAZE
@ MacDuff:
I agree 100%.
@ typtypo:
with you on that. this is a classic case.
vagabond trader wrote:
“koranimals” lol. that’s a good one.
And you are exactly right, everywhere they are, they cause the trouble.
They can’t get along and don;t want to, and we are supposed to be understanding of this evil dangerous cult.
archonix wrote:
Yeah, that’s my thought too.
As to the worry that any given pro-English group in England is going to descend into racism, antiSemitism and general obnoxitude, I share it. I opposed the BNP for similar reasons. As I recall what we were all hoping for, in the UK, was a group which was serious about opposing Islam but without the opportunists, Jew-haters and fascists. Obviously the BNP is not that group.
The EDL might not be that group either, but it is a step in that direction.
The EDL probably DO have a few NF and BNP sympathisers in their ranks (although I suspect it’ll be easier to find Hamas sympathisers in a Liberal Democratic Party caucus). The good news is, if the BNP louts are having to march alongside Sikhs, Hindus, Jews and gays then there’s a chance that they’ll wise up. Either that or the organisers of the EDL will eject the louts, and a good deal faster than the LDP will eject Islamists.
The EDL is young yet, and we’ll see what happens. But I will repeat this much: if not the EDL, then what sort of pro-English group would you support?
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
Perfect. That’s your level. Stick to it.
@ Guggi:
That’s lame. I’m weary of you as well as your hopelessly inane “points”.
BuhBye!
@ chickadee:
You know I live in the semi sticks,not much contact with them. A bunch took over my favorite gas stop,got such intense bad vibes from the creeps,so surly,you could feel the hate.Never went back there after 12 years.Thank goodness Stop and Shop put in another gas station nearby.
@ lobo91:
I have known too many gay men who were inapprotriately interested in teenage boys, to dismiss the point so lightly. Too many.
On the other hand, While I am not a big “gay rights” guy, they DO have the right not to be strung up summarily and i think we can all agree to that.
@ jimash:
It seems to be a more general human trait than just a homosexual one. The urge to seek out younger mates increases the likelihood of a man producing more offspring. If they’re gay, that tendency to seek out youth will be transferred onto the object of their sexual desire. The problem is when the urge misfires and they see prepubescent children or immature teens as desirable mates.
@ Zimriel:
EDL-BNP
Chris Renton: A BNP activist from Weston-super-Mare, Renton helped set up the EDL website. When his political links to the BNP emerged the EDL publicly distanced itself from him but he remains an important player behind the scenes. He attended the recent Birmingham protest. His brother is also involved.
Davy Cooling: A 26-year-old known Luton football hooligan who now lives in Daventry, Cooling originates from Northern Ireland. He is a BNP member and registered his interest in attending the BNP’s Red, White and Blue festival in August. Cooling administers the Luton EDL Facebook page.
Jeff Marsh: A 44-year-old convicted football hooligan from Barry, South Wales, Marsh is a Cardiff supporter and has been jailed three times for violence, including a two-year sentence for stabbing two Manchester United fans. He claims to have a degree in criminal justice and has written a book on Welsh hooliganism. He set up the English and Welsh Defence League but appears to be less influential in the current EDL. He attended the protest in Birmingham.
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This are the people you are siding with. Good luck.
@ jimash:
That’s a specific thing. “Twinkies”- young boys- still pedophelia. But I would have to see some kind of study proving it’s more than in the heterosexual population before I would believe it.
Actually- in the general population:
So heterosexual pedophelia is more prevelant.
Maybe because the men have more access to boys than the girls in the church is why statistically there have been more cases of the young boy thing in this particular instance. I dunno.
I just think it’s too broad of a brush to say gays are the reason for that scandal. Gay pedophiles, yes. Just regular gay men – I personally don’t believe it.
@ m:
Wuzzup?
Lancaster Unity: Nazi Protestors are definitely EDL
The EDL Welsh division – the Welsh Defence League – was founded by convicted knife criminal and Cardiff City hooligan Jeff Marsh (who was jailed for stabbing 2 Manchester United fans and recently banned from football grounds for 5 years). Jeff Marsh helps organise EDL protests through a hooligan group called Casuals United. When the EDL and WDL marched together in Swansea on 17 Oct 2009, they chanted “BNP BNP BNP”, gave Nazi salutes and burned an Anti-Nazi flag. So, realising the EDL’s credibility as an allegedly non-racist group was totally blown, the EDL pretended their Swansea march had been “hijacked” by infiltrators from the Nazi group Combat 18. However (in an act of awesome political stupidity) on 7 March 2010 Casuals United published a photo on their own blog of the WDL which proves that the Nazis who’d protested in Swansea definitely were members of the WDL (see video)… talk about an own flippin’ goal! Since then Jeff Marsh published a video of the EDL chanting “BNP BNP BNP” in Stoke (1) and EDL co-founder Paul Ray admitted that BNP activist Chris Renton is now (quote) “de-facto Commander of the EDL” (2)
EDL members chanting BNP, BNP
@ Guggi:
Over the last cope of years a lot of people joined the BNP because it was the only party talking about the issues of immigration, islamism and the EU in a political landscape where such things were dismissed as “little englander” racism. Pointing out that someone is a BNP member doesn’t mean much, except that they supported a political party that actually addressed these issues.
If they are really so racist, why are they actively seeking – and getting – the membership of people of all races?
@ Speranza:
Hey Speranza!
@ archonix:
I have to say I am uncomfortable with my own opinions on these matters, and do not want to smear gay people.
But several of you have made good points about the psycho-sexual origins of these behaviors which do exist.
And I have met lots of very nice, even holy priests.
And the Church is far more concerned about it than the mooslimb world is about their cultural sexual predilections.
And Kudos to the EDL for having open membership.
Somebody has to stand up.
If they are legendary tough guys with some bad behavior in their pasts, so be it.
I’m no angel either.
@ jimash:
Pure as the driven snow would be a lonely protest indeed! lol!
@ m:
I’m waiting for Guggi to claim that their membership are political cover for their racism.
m wrote:
1 out of 3 girls has been molested? Approximately 3 out of 20 boys? I call b.s. on those statistics… unless the definition of “molested” has been redefined.
Mike Hughes wrote:
Mike,
There is an American writer named Rachel Ehrenfeld who was sued in British court for libel by a Saudi a few years back. You might try getting in touch with her. She would probably have a lawyer reference who is familiar with media and libel laws in Britain.
She is director of this organization: http://www.acdemocracy.org
quick drive by….
the muzz ‘promised’ that 1000 muzzies would show for the geert wilders march…not one showed up. their dhimmi friends on the left did the protest for them.
muzzz are cowards.
and, really, who do you want in a street march where there might be violence, some toughs with a few questionable backgrounds, or someone with a pure background that has great credentials?
bbl…
@ coldwarrior:
Heh, useful dhimmis.
@ Bunk X:
I was going to mention that; you beat me to it. I think a few people will be banned today.
@ Bunk X:
Could be who actually reports. Boys getting molesting seems to have more of a stigma still – even though it’s not their fault.
Either that or the hetero ped’s are just more active. Molesting more in quantity per pedophile.
?@ coldwarrior:
Or the were intelligent enough not to give them attention since this is exactly what the EDL wants ?
Do you see the EDL as your personal proxy to fight with Muslims
archonix wrote:
So you would join “stormfront” because they are against immigration ?
A lot of Italian Jews joined Mussolini. Not the brightest decision they could make.
m wrote:
I think the source is suspect, i.e., litigation attorneys specializing in molestation cases. False accusations abound in that field.
Guggi wrote:
or, and more likely, the muzz were yet again all talk and no action when confronted.
not a proxy, just an extension and continuation of past actions.
@ m:
More opportunity. Most molestation is by an immediate family member or close relative rather than by a stranger. With a family member the distorted trust relationship between the molester and his victim usually makes it very hard for the victim to come escape or prevent the attack occuring, and makes it hard for others to realise anything is wrong, whereas when a stranger makes an attack it’s usually noticed very quickly, leading to the attacker being dealt with before he can do too much damage.
With priests you have a confluence of circumstances that create a trust relationship even more powerful than that found in a family. One thing that this has raised is the issue of celibacy in the roman church, which I believe leads to many of the problems. Not only that but by my understanding it isn’t even scripturally sound to enforce this sort of celibacy.
Guggi wrote:
That was cold.
@ Guggi:
Every time a legitimate reaction to Islam has popped up in this country you’ve dropped on it like a fucking comet. You dismiss my people as mere hooligans and thugs, you criticise any attempt we make to stand up for ourselves. If I were a betting man I’d lay pretty good odds that you simply don’t like us.
@ RIX:
I’ve read on some of the Catholic blogs that if they’re forced to perform abortions, they will close. That’s 600+ hospitals. Under canon law, the Church can’t resell the hospitals to someone else because that would be material cooperation with evil. These hospitals deal alot with the poor.
@ Bunk X:
It was also historically ignorant. Mussolini sided with Hitler in the war, but he refused to take part in the slaughter of Jews and took great pains to protect Italian Jews. He was a fascist but he wasn’t a nazi.
@ Bunk X:
Oh! I had heard around similar numbers, and when other sites quoted similar numbers from the Department of Justice I just went with the one that put it in simplest terms.
Child Molestation Statistics
Girls 3-4 out of 10
Boys 1/6
Or this one:
1 in 4 girls is sexually abused before the age of 18. (96)
1 in 6 boys is sexually abused before the age of 18. (96)
1 in 5 children are solicited sexually while on the internet. (30, 87)
Another one that goes with the 1 in 4 for girls and 1 in 6 for boys.
Bad news all around.
@ archonix:
Yeah, that’s what I think. But you put it better. ~:)
@ archonix:
I liken it to talking about American biker gangs. There are some bad ones, but if they’re taking your side, why bitch about it? lol!
@ coldwarrior:
You’ve just destroyed your main point against the “Muzz”. If they are only braggarts then why should we fear them ?
Guggi wrote:
fear them?
i dont fear them, i dont think anyone here fears them.
I think the EDL means well but I think we should be careful and make sure that no one in the EDL holds racist views. I’m sure most don’t but they should make sure to expel anyone who does. BTW, I’ve heard they do accept people of differing races. I hope that they can get rid of sharia law in Britain.
archonix wrote:
Mussolini invented fascism, i.e., private ownership with government dictating control of operations. He was a small time tin pot gas bag who thought he’d win favor by joining with the nazis. He chose wrong.
@ Guggi:
Different action and different reaction.
If all they wanted to do was talk junk about how tough they are it would be one thing. This is something totally different.
Islamists are braggarts, but they also want to take over even if by less confrontational means (out breeding, bleeding the social services bankrupt, all kinds of fun stuff).
And it’s not fear it’s – “islam, fuck you”.
@ Bunk X:
@ m:
This time you said it better than I could!
@ mtc:
How is that even possible without the thought police? Replace it with any group, there will be some asses amongst them.
:}
archonix wrote:
Anti-Semitic legislation started 1937.
‘Mussolini: I’ll build an island and put all the Jews there’
Italian dictator Benito Mussolini was a rabid anti-Semite who called Adolf Hitler “a big romantic” and despised the pope, a new book of his mistress Claretta Petacci’s diaries revealed, AFP reported on Monday.
The Corriere della Sera daily reportedly published extracts of the book “Secret Mussolini,” taken from diaries written between 1932 and 1938, on Monday two days before it hits Italian book shops.
While on a boating trip on August 4, 1938, Mussolini talked about the German dictator’s new anti-Semitic laws with his mistress, saying “I’ve been racist since 1921,” according to AFP.
“I don’t know how they can think that I’m imitating Hitler, he wasn’t born yet…” he was quoted as saying. “We must give Italians a feeling of race so that they don’t create half-castes, so that they don’t spoil what is beautiful about us.”
Two months later, on October 11, Mussolini is again at sea with Petacci, when he was quoted as saying: “Those bloody Jews, they should be destroyed … I’ll build an island and put them all there… They don’t even have any gratitude, recognition, not even a letter of thanks… They say we need them, their money, their help.”
Snip
@ m:
Second generation Muslim immigrants don’t have more children than parents of their host country.
@ The Osprey:
Cheers mate thats very helpful. Getting pissed off with msm over here the “embellishments” of truth are astounding.
We have just released a Leadership statement…….
http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=163:news-of-the-world-article&catid=42:feature-stories&Itemid=56
@ coldwarrior:
So, what is this all about ?
@ Guggi:
there’s only one article under the tag mussolini holocaust on that link…and its a book from the diary of his mistress…i’m gonna need some more references about this italian-run murdering of all of its jews.
Mike Hughes wrote:
time to lawyer up!
coldwarrior wrote:
You could start with the anti-Jewish legislation, couldn’t you ?
Don’t put words in my mouth. I didn’t write anything about “this italian-run murdering of all of its jews.” Please, do me the favor and read carefully before you answer.
I wrote:
Play fair.
Guggi wrote:
maybe you need to answer this one.
@ coldwarrior:
Looking into it mate we need options. All be it on a budget.
How are you keeping then?
Guggi wrote:
After you, my dear.
Guggi wrote:
sure, i’ll now play college prof…
its a book from the diary of his mistress…i’m gonna need some more references, preferably first hand accounts that can be corroborated, maybe actual death totals of italian jews that were murdered by the regime.
Mike Hughes wrote:
i’m good, golf season started (snow melted) so i was at CC friday, very relaxing!
howzit with you?
Mike Hughes wrote:
got any lawyers that will do some pro bono work to make a name for themselves?
@ archonix:
Guggi have you had a look at the link i provided yet?
I would appreciate you impartial feedback
@ coldwarrior:
Excuse my ignorance mate but what is “pro bono” work?
coldwarrior wrote:
Apparently you fight Islam and Muslims not Islamists and with this you are in the contradiction to the EDL which is – in its own words – only fighting “Islamists”.
So what is this all about ?
Mike Hughes wrote:
it means for free.
lawyers do it here when they have a nice case that will bring attention to their practice.
some lawyers also do hourly pro bono as charity, mor or less.
m wrote:
Your first link has this quote with no source:
The second link lists 96 references, many referring to duplicate authors, and without direct links to any legitimate source for the statistics.
Your third link quotes the studies of others, and implies that the statistics were gleaned from world wide surveys as the word “pandemic” is prominent.
I’m not butting heads with you on this, and I abhor those who promote and perpetrate pedophilia, as some in the middle east and third world countries do.
I dispute the percentages posted without backup. Do not forget that there are many instances of false accusation as well. I know of several, but I also know no one who claims to have been molested as a child.
http://www.vrmag.org/issue11/ITALY_AND_THE_HOLOCAUST.html
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/Rome.html
@ coldwarrior:
Never met a lawyer that will work for nothing over here mate. If you want justice then you have to pay for it, usually anyway.
Mike Hughes wrote:
that’s unfortunate.
what about getting a price and see if your lads can pull together to hire someone?
@ Mike Hughes:
Maybe you could try with these guys ?
http://www.conservativelawyers.com/research.htm
@ Bunk X:
I’m not arguing the statistics but those are the numbers regularly out there. I have never conducted an actual study myself.
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@ coldwarrior:
Im all good thanks mate sorry for the late reply. I did try posting more last night, you must have had a bug in the system as nothing i posted would stick
@ jimash:
Thanks mate we will be looking into all the links provided. We appreciate your help
http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=165:undercover-policeman-reveals-how-he-infiltrated-uks-violent-activists&catid=42:feature-stories&Itemid=56
This is a story of an undercover police agent who infiltrated lefty anarchists with the Trotskyist ideology.
UAF, Antifa, SWP etc etc etc
Im sure you get my drift! Same shit different smells!
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