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Obama – Dick Nixon without Checkers

by snork ( 250 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Democratic Party, Politics at March 13th, 2010 - 7:30 am

Update: just to clarify, in response to a comment, in this headline, “Checkers” refers not just to Nixon’s dog, but is a metaphor for his humanity.

Jennifer Rubin’s article at Commentary, Trying to Reinvent Obama, starts out quoting Dee Dee Meyers, who seems to have identified a (gasp!!!) flaw in the messiah. She finds him “calm,” “cool,” and “self-possessed.”

But while eschewing emotion — and its companion, vulnerability — Obama should be careful not to sacrifice empathy, the “I feel your pain” connection that sustained [Bill] Clinton. This connection is the shorthand people use to measure their leaders’ intentions. If people believe you’re on their side, they will trust your decisions. Too often, Obama leaves the impression that he stands alone — and likes it that way. Clinton was fond of saying, “We’re all going up or down together.” Obama must make sure that people know that he needs their help as much as they need his.

But a Baghwan messiah has to be dispassionate. He wouldn’t be “cool” if he were human. This is the box they created for themselves when they created the political version of Max Headroom. Max is cool, because he’s not real.

See the similarity? Max is the likable one with a personality.

We’ve had a series of detached performances — Fort Hood and  the Christmas Day bombing — in which he was weirdly unemotional. A snippy showing at the health-care summit. And an attack on the Supreme Court. Indeed, he seems most engaged when he’s attacking his opponents, as he refers to the growing number of those who disagree with him.

Obsessed with enemies, eh?

Myers gives campaign-style advice in consultant-speak (”reconnect his biography to his agenda”):

Obama also needs to remind people that things weren’t always easy for him. The campaign introduced the country to a man whose life story was both unusual — a Kenyan father and a Kansan mother, a childhood spent in Hawaii and Indonesia — and broadly shared: a single mom who worked hard and sacrificed for her children and a family that faced difficult times but never lost its faith in the future.

Aside from the fact that his mom didn’t sacrifice diddly, and ran off and dumped him with gramma, this is compelling exactly how?

But that all seems beside the point, oddly inappropriate for the presidency as opposed to the campaign. (There really is a difference between the two.) Something more fundamental is going on here: Obama seems not to respect his fellow citizens — the uninformed rubes who crashed the health-care town halls — nor care what they think. All his energy now is devoted to disregarding their strong aversion to his idea of health-care reform and forcing through a vote on something the public doesn’t want. It’s hard to bond with the American people, which is what Myers is suggesting, when your agenda conveys disdain for their concerns.

Jenny’s on to something. Even Nixon maintained that there was a “silent majority”. Obama isn’t even pretending popular support any more. He’s basically saying that he knows best, and the public just needs to be educated. That’s unprecedented.

Myers gets closer to the nub of the problem as she concludes:

Obama maintains a reservoir of goodwill. Even people who don’t approve of the job he’s doing like him personally. Most think he understands their problems and cares about people like them. In other words, people want to have a beer with him. They’re just not sure he wants to have a beer with them.

Translation: Obama is a dick.

Now looking back, some American presidents are more admirable than others, and some are more personable than others, and some knew how to carry themselves better than others. When we look back over the past 50 years, only one even comes close to being as peevish as Obama, and that’s Dick Nixon. But Nixon, peevish as he may have been, at least didn’t try to be a Vulcan. In fact, he had a kind of personable peevishness. His famous “Checkers” speech is heralded as political genius:

One other thing I probably should tell you, because if I don’t they’ll probably be saying this about me, too. We did get something, a gift, after the election. A man down in Texas heard Pat on the radio mention the fact that our two youngsters would like to have a dog. And believe it or not, the day before we left on this campaign trip we got a message from Union Station in Baltimore, saying they had a package for us. We went down to get it. You know what it was? It was a little cocker spaniel dog, in a crate that he had sent all the way from Texas, black and white, spotted, and our little girl Tricia, the six year old, named it Checkers. And you know, the kids, like all kids, love the dog, and I just want to say this, right now, that regardless of what they say about it, we’re gonna keep it.

The Obamas tried the dog thing, just like the Clintons did. Somehow, it rings hollow. But back to the Nixon speech:

I say that a man who, like Mr. Stevenson, has pooh-poohed and ridiculed the Communist threat in the United States — he said that they are phantoms among ourselves. He has accused us that have attempted to expose the Communists, of looking for Communists in the Bureau of Fisheries and Wildlife. I say that a man who says that isn’t qualified to be President of the United States. And I say that the only man who can lead us in this fight to rid the Government of both those who are Communists and those who have corrupted this Government is Eisenhower, because Eisenhower, you can be sure, recognizes the problem, and he knows how to deal with it.

That was then; this is now.

But just let me say this last word. Regardless of what happens, I’m going to continue this fight. I’m going to campaign up and down in America until we drive the crooks and the Communists and those that defend them out of Washington. And remember folks, Eisenhower is a great man, believe me. He’s a great man. And a vote for Eisenhower is a vote for what’s good for America.

And that, in a nutshell, is why Obama can never lower himself, as Meyers intimated, to having a beer with us. Nixon loved his country. Obama doesn’t. And his numbers are dropping like a rock for a number or reasons, but the biggest one is the intangible sense that so may of us are getting that he not only doesn’t love this country; he actually hates the country, and all of her citizens.

The essential difference is that peevish as he may have been, Nixon was a human and a patriot, and his dog showed that. This is something that Barack Obama can’t fake. He’s never had to pretend to love his country at any time in his past, and now, a few years short of 50, he can’t.

He’s got Nixon’s peevishness, but not his soul. That’s why he could never give an emotional speech about a dog. He just doesn’t have it in him.

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  1. Nevergiveup
    1 | March 13, 2010 07:41

    Actually I have to protest this headline. Richard Nixon loved America. Whatever his faults and his mistakes, he served in the Military and he loved this country. And when it really counted in 1973 he stood tall for Israel. He told the Military Transport Command to load up every plane we had with whatever Israel needed in the 73 War. Please don’t use his name in the same sentence as this commie bastard. Please!


  2. snork
    2 | March 13, 2010 07:42

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Read the whole thing. That’s exactly the bottom line.


  3. Nevergiveup
    3 | March 13, 2010 07:43

    snork wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Read the whole thing. That’s exactly the bottom line.

    I know, but still that top headline?


  4. vagabond trader
    4 | March 13, 2010 07:44

    Never thought I’d say anything like it it but Obowma you’re no Dick Nixon.


  5. snork
    5 | March 13, 2010 07:44

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Checkers is a metaphor. Not just the dog, but the humanity of the man.


  6. Doppelganger
    6 | March 13, 2010 07:44

    Nixon never wore Mom jeans


  7. Nevergiveup
    8 | March 13, 2010 07:47

    Words that should never be used in the same sentence: Nixon and Obama, Obama and courage, Obama and accomplishments, Obama and Law Professor, Obama and Israel ( unless the words “sell out” are in it), Obama and America, Obama and Honor, Obama and…..


  8. Doppelganger
    9 | March 13, 2010 07:48

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Words that should never be used in the same sentence: Nixon and Obama, Obama and courage, Obama and accomplishments, Obama and Law Professor, Obama and Israel ( unless the words “sell out” are in it), Obama and America, Obama and Honor, Obama and…..

    Obama and second term


  9. snork
    10 | March 13, 2010 07:48

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Never thought I’d say anything like it it but Obowma you’re no Dick Nixon.

    No, he has to work at even being the first half of that.


  10. 11 | March 13, 2010 07:48

    Doppelganger wrote:

    Nixon never wore Mom jeans

    or threw a ball like a little bitty girl (yman)


  11. spidly
    12 | March 13, 2010 07:49

    @ Nevergiveup:
    how about 0bama and Putz, 0bama and Jihadi, 0bama and Ideologue…


  12. snork
    13 | March 13, 2010 07:49

    Grimcargo wrote:

    Doppelganger wrote:
    Nixon never wore Mom jeans

    or threw a ball like a little bitty girl (yman)

    Or ate arugula.


  13. vagabond trader
    14 | March 13, 2010 07:50

    @ Nevergiveup:

    We have this series, Israel Land of Miracles or something like that. Anyway one episode discusses how Nixon decided to assist Israel in the 73 war.His mother was religous and had impressed on her son that the “chosen people” must be respected and if he ever had the opportunity to help them he must.That sob Kissinger advised against aide but Nixon recalled his mothers words. Don’t know how true it is.


  14. Nevergiveup
    15 | March 13, 2010 07:51

    Doppelganger wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Words that should never be used in the same sentence: Nixon and Obama, Obama and courage, Obama and accomplishments, Obama and Law Professor, Obama and Israel ( unless the words “sell out” are in it), Obama and America, Obama and Honor, Obama and…..

    Obama and second term

    OOh great one


  15. spidly
    16 | March 13, 2010 07:51

    just remove “Nixon” from the headline.


  16. Nevergiveup
    17 | March 13, 2010 07:51

    spidly wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    how about 0bama and Putz, 0bama and Jihadi, 0bama and Ideologue…

    Those are words that SHOULD be used together


  17. vagabond trader
    18 | March 13, 2010 07:52

    @ Doppelganger:

    Obama and second term

    Winner.


  18. Nevergiveup
    19 | March 13, 2010 07:52

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    We have this series, Israel Land of Miracles or something like that. Anyway one episode discusses how Nixon decided to assist Israel in the 73 war.His mother was religous and had impressed on her son that the “chosen people” must be respected and if he ever had the opportunity to help them he must.That sob Kissinger advised against aide but Nixon recalled his mothers words. Don’t know how true it is.

    I’m not so sure Kissinger advised against?


  19. The Osprey
    20 | March 13, 2010 07:54

    I heard Alexander Haig had a lot to do with aid to Israel during the YK War. He supposedly was the one who pushed to have all our available wire guided anti-tank missiles (a new weapon at the time) sent to Israel and a cadre of Israeli officers and non-coms secretly brought to Fort Benning to learn how to use them.


  20. snork
    21 | March 13, 2010 07:57

    Not that it really matters, but Nixon was full of contradictions. He was caught making antisemitic remarks, but he hired Henry Kissinger, and came to Israel’s aid. His foreign policy was brilliant; his domestic policy was horrible. His personal peevishness got him in the end, but he loved his country and would have died for it.

    It used to be simply assumed that presidents loved their country; Democrat or Republican. There is a very short list of presidents who have given reason to question their patriotism. Wilson is the first, but I also had to wonder a few times about Carter and Clinton. There was never any doubt about Truman or JFK or LBJ. This isn’t about ideology, it’s about which team you’re playing for.

    Obama takes this to the next level. Country means absolutely nothing to him, and never did. His loyalty is to his machine.


  21. vagabond trader
    22 | March 13, 2010 07:57

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Maybe I am not recalling who it was but someone close to Nixon wanted to let Israel swing for a while.


  22. snork
    23 | March 13, 2010 07:59

    spidly wrote:

    just remove “Nixon” from the headline.

    But then I’d have to switch “Checkers” and “Dick” around.


  23. Nevergiveup
    24 | March 13, 2010 07:59

    The Osprey wrote:

    I heard Alexander Haig had a lot to do with aid to Israel during the YK War. He supposedly was the one who pushed to have all our available wire guided anti-tank missiles (a new weapon at the time) sent to Israel and a cadre of Israeli officers and non-coms secretly brought to Fort Benning to learn how to use them.

    I would not be surprised. We lost a real hero in Haig


  24. snork
    25 | March 13, 2010 08:00

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Maybe I am not recalling who it was but someone close to Nixon wanted to let Israel swing for a while.

    Baker?


  25. Nevergiveup
    26 | March 13, 2010 08:00

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Maybe I am not recalling who it was but someone close to Nixon wanted to let Israel swing for a while.

    Pretty sure it was not Kissinger.


  26. vagabond trader
    27 | March 13, 2010 08:03

    @ snork:

    Theres a likely candidate.The account may be in a book we recently read about the 73 war.Have to ask the old man,he knows way more about this stuff.


  27. spidly
    28 | March 13, 2010 08:03

    0bama and presidential
    0bama and democracy
    0bama and @ snork:

    “HIS” machine, not the Chicago machine, which might get him into trouble…. he narcissism might lead him into forgetting for whom he works.


  28. spidly
    29 | March 13, 2010 08:04

    his
    pimf


  29. Speranza
    30 | March 13, 2010 08:04

    Richard E. Nixon was no conservative.


  30. vapig
    31 | March 13, 2010 08:04

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    vagabond trader wrote:
    @ Nevergiveup:
    We have this series, Israel Land of Miracles or something like that. Anyway one episode discusses how Nixon decided to assist Israel in the 73 war.His mother was religous and had impressed on her son that the “chosen people” must be respected and if he ever had the opportunity to help them he must.That sob Kissinger advised against aide but Nixon recalled his mothers words. Don’t know how true it is.
    I’m not so sure Kissinger advised against?

    From what I recall Kissinger seemed to do everything in his power to chop the legs out from under Israel.


  31. Beltfed
    32 | March 13, 2010 08:05

    The Obamas tried the dog thing, just like the Clintons did. Somehow, it rings hollow. But back to the Nixon speech:

    I wouldn’t be surprised that ol’ Bo is unceremoniously left behind when the Obamas are kicked out of the white house.


  32. 33 | March 13, 2010 08:05

    Detached is right!

    Oblabla was emotional once. It was while talking about the Palestinians at the Cairo speech. That’s about all that reaaly registers with him.


  33. 34 | March 13, 2010 08:06

    Speranza wrote:

    Richard E. Nixon was no conservative.

    I think it is Richard M. Nixon. :)


  34. The Osprey
    35 | March 13, 2010 08:07


  35. Nevergiveup
    36 | March 13, 2010 08:07

    vapig wrote:

    From what I recall Kissinger seemed to do everything in his power to chop the legs out from under Israel.

    I don’t content he was Israel’s best friend. Far from it, but not sure that characterization is correct. Kissinger was an opportunist. He could usually be counted on to do what was in Kissingers best interest


  36. Speranza
    37 | March 13, 2010 08:07

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    I think it is Richard M. Nixon.

    I was imitating Archie Bunker. Where were you in the 1970′s!


  37. snork
    38 | March 13, 2010 08:08

    Beltfed wrote:

    I wouldn’t be surprised that ol’ Bo is unceremoniously left behind when the Obamas are kicked out of the white house.

    The Palins could always use another hunting dog.


  38. Nevergiveup
    39 | March 13, 2010 08:08

    Speranza wrote:

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    I think it is Richard M. Nixon.

    I was imitating Archie Bunker. Where were you in the 1970’s!

    High like everyone else


  39. Beltfed
    40 | March 13, 2010 08:08

    Nevergiveup @ 1:

    He told the Military Transport Command to load up every plane we had with whatever Israel needed in the 73 War. Please don’t use his name in the same sentence as this commie bastard. Please!

    A friend of mine who was in the merchant marine fleet at that time told me that his ship and a few others were ordered to load up with weapons and sail for Israel asp.


  40. Speranza
    41 | March 13, 2010 08:09

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    vapig wrote:
    From what I recall Kissinger seemed to do everything in his power to chop the legs out from under Israel.
    I don’t content he was Israel’s best friend. Far from it, but not sure that characterization is correct. Kissinger was an opportunist. He could usually be counted on to do what was in Kissingers best interest

    Actually George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan were Israel’s best friends. The most hostile POTUS’s were Dwight Eisenhower, Jimmy Carter, George H.W. Bush and Barack Obama.


  41. Speranza
    42 | March 13, 2010 08:09

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    High like everyone else

    She was too young.


  42. vapig
    43 | March 13, 2010 08:10

    Speranza wrote:

    Richard E Milhous. Nixon was no conservative.

    Worse thing he ever did IMHO was to leave us with the EPA. Although, at the time (Lake Erie dead, acid rain, Indians crying with litter strewn oround their feet) it probably seemed like a sane idea.


  43. Macker
    44 | March 13, 2010 08:10

    Doppelganger wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Words that should never be used in the same sentence: Nixon and Obama, Obama and courage, Obama and accomplishments, Obama and Law Professor, Obama and Israel ( unless the words “sell out” are in it), Obama and America, Obama and Honor, Obama and…..

    Obama and second term

    I’ll do that one better: Оба́ма and first term.


  44. Speranza
    45 | March 13, 2010 08:11

    @ vapig:
    Nixon was the last of the New Deal presidents.


  45. Macker
    46 | March 13, 2010 08:11

    @ Nevergiveup:

    And thank God he could never be President.


  46. Beltfed
    47 | March 13, 2010 08:13

    snork @ 38:

    The Palins could always use another hunting dog.

    Perfect, lol


  47. mfhorn
    48 | March 13, 2010 08:13

    It’s kind of funny. Clinton was driven SO much by the polls while Obama doesn’t give a rats ass about polls, it’s all about ramming what’s “best for us” down our throats because HE knows best, and we’re just a bunch of gun totin’ fools who don’t recognize his brilliance.

    Back during the first Clinton campaign, Rush commented on a someone at one of the ‘town hall’ debates who said something along the lines of ‘what would you as, symbolically, the father, do for us’. Obama’s taken that liberal desire for a ‘father figure’ to take care of them to a whole new level. Unfortunately, we’re seeing it in other places too, though, with the NY assemblyman who wants to BAN the use of salt in restaurant cooking. It’s tragic that the concept of ‘personal responsibility’ has gone out the window.


  48. snork
    49 | March 13, 2010 08:13

    @ vapig:
    Despite all of that, the EPA was a reasonably stable and straight agency as federal agencies go until this bunch got their mitts on it. Now, it’s so political, it’s going to have to be taken out back and shot.


  49. Nevergiveup
    50 | March 13, 2010 08:13

    Beltfed wrote:

    Nevergiveup @ 1:

    He told the Military Transport Command to load up every plane we had with whatever Israel needed in the 73 War. Please don’t use his name in the same sentence as this commie bastard. Please!

    A friend of mine who was in the merchant marine fleet at that time told me that his ship and a few others were ordered to load up with weapons and sail for Israel asp.

    Yup. I know Nixon made more than his share of Anti-semetic things, but when the chips were down, really down, and it mattered Nixon stood tall and helped Israel in one it’s most desperate hours. Nobody should ever forget that.


  50. 51 | March 13, 2010 08:13

    @ Speranza:

    I was imitating Archie Bunker. Where were you in the 1970’s!

    There’s no way I’d remember that and I used to watch the show.

    Where was I? I was going to a Catholic all-girl HS in Queens!


  51. vapig
    52 | March 13, 2010 08:13

    Beltfed wrote:

    Nevergiveup @ 1:
    He told the Military Transport Command to load up every plane we had with whatever Israel needed in the 73 War. Please don’t use his name in the same sentence as this commie bastard. Please!
    A friend of mine who was in the merchant marine fleet at that time told me that his ship and a few others were ordered to load up with weapons and sail for Israel asp.

    I was a kid when he was in power, but I remember just recently listening to him speak on what Israel should be doing to insure peace and if I’d had a loaded gun I might have shot my tv. Dude infuriated me!

    However, just now hearing that he’s been taken to the hospital for stomach pains, so I don’t want to potentially be dancing on his grave. He’s 85.


  52. spidly
    53 | March 13, 2010 08:14

    @ Speranza:
    0bama is the first of the raw deal presidents


  53. 54 | March 13, 2010 08:14

    @ snork:

    The Palins could always use another hunting dog.

    I don’t think that poodle would last very long in Alaska.


  54. vagabond trader
    55 | March 13, 2010 08:15

    @ vapig:

    Hi vapig! You would like this series. Lots of “unexplained” occurences in modern Israel. Like the soldiers who were trapped in a mine field and suddenly a huge gust of wind blew over it revealing where every single mine was.


  55. vapig
    56 | March 13, 2010 08:16

    Macker wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    And thank God he could never be President.

    I remember my classmates all thought he should be prez. Considering how prog we all were that should tell you everything you need to know about the man. Libs loved him!


  56. vagabond trader
    57 | March 13, 2010 08:17

    @ Nevergiveup:

    :D :D


  57. Speranza
    58 | March 13, 2010 08:17

    Nixon said when people were complaining that all the transport planes (filled with weapons) were being flown to Israel were going to enrage the Arabs – “They will be just as angry if we sent 50 planes as if we sent 10, so send 50″.


  58. snork
    59 | March 13, 2010 08:17

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    @ snork:
    The Palins could always use another hunting dog.
    I don’t think that poodle would last very long in Alaska.

    It’s a lab. Labs live to chase birds.


  59. Speranza
    60 | March 13, 2010 08:18

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Got a music thread pending which I hope will be put up tonight.


  60. vapig
    61 | March 13, 2010 08:18

    mfhorn wrote:

    It’s kind of funny. Clinton was driven SO much by the polls while Obama doesn’t give a rats ass about polls, it’s all about ramming what’s “best for us” down our throats because HE knows best, and we’re just a bunch of gun totin’ fools who don’t recognize his brilliance.
    Back during the first Clinton campaign, Rush commented on a someone at one of the ‘town hall’ debates who said something along the lines of ‘what would you as, symbolically, the father, do for us’. Obama’s taken that liberal desire for a ‘father figure’ to take care of them to a whole new level. Unfortunately, we’re seeing it in other places too, though, with the NY assemblyman who wants to BAN the use of salt in restaurant cooking. It’s tragic that the concept of ‘personal responsibility’ has gone out the window.

    Dumbest idea ever! Our bodies are made up of salt. We need salt to live! There was also a time when salt was worth more than gold!


  61. Speranza
    62 | March 13, 2010 08:19

    vapig wrote:

    Macker wrote:
    @ Nevergiveup:
    And thank God he could never be President.
    I remember my classmates all thought he should be prez. Considering how prog we all were that should tell you everything you need to know about the man. Libs loved him!

    Outside of Reagan, I do not know of any POTUS we had since Nixon who Kissinger would have been worse then.


  62. vagabond trader
    63 | March 13, 2010 08:19

    @ Speranza:

    Oh goodie. I’m by my lonesome tonite and will tune in.


  63. vapig
    64 | March 13, 2010 08:19

    snork wrote:

    @ vapig:
    Despite all of that, the EPA was a reasonably stable and straight agency as federal agencies go until this bunch got their mitts on it. Now, it’s so political, it’s going to have to be taken out back and shot.

    LOL! I’d even be satisfied with ripping our their teeth and claws by defunding them.


  64. snork
    65 | March 13, 2010 08:19

    Speranza wrote:

    Nixon said when people were complaining that all the transport planes (filled with weapons) were being flown to Israel were going to enrage the Arabs – “They will be just as angry if we sent 50 planes as if we sent 10, so send 50″.

    That shows a lot of insight into the Arabs.


  65. spidly
    66 | March 13, 2010 08:20

    @ mfhorn:

    pony tail guy


  66. Speranza
    67 | March 13, 2010 08:20

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Where was I? I was going to a Catholic all-girl HS in Queens!

    Ya got my sympaties.

    Archie Bunker to Methead “Listen buddy boy, let me tell you one thing abut Richard E. Nixon. At least he knows how to keep Pat in line”.


  67. vapig
    68 | March 13, 2010 08:21

    spidly wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    0bama is the first of the raw deal presidents

    That should be made into a bumper sticker!


  68. taxfreekiller
    69 | March 13, 2010 08:21

    “Dark skined,,, “golden calf”.


  69. Beltfed
    70 | March 13, 2010 08:21

    snork @ 59:

    It’s a lab. Labs live to chase birds

    A Portuguese water dog.


  70. vapig
    71 | March 13, 2010 08:22

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ vapig:
    Hi vapig! You would like this series. Lots of “unexplained” occurences in modern Israel. Like the soldiers who were trapped in a mine field and suddenly a huge gust of wind blew over it revealing where every single mine was.

    Really?!!? Cool! You’ll have to send me the name of it.


  71. vagabond trader
    72 | March 13, 2010 08:23

    @ Speranza:

    Loved Archie,lol.


  72. Speranza
    73 | March 13, 2010 08:23

    snork wrote:

    That shows a lot of insight into the Arabs.

    Quite concur! Do what you think is right, stand your ground, and what can they do about it?


  73. 74 | March 13, 2010 08:23

    @ Beltfed:
    Looks like a Poodle to me.


  74. spidly
    75 | March 13, 2010 08:23

    vapig wrote:

    ver! Our bodies are made up of salt. We need salt to live! There was also a time when salt was worth more than gold!

    if tea party people go and make their own salt will they be Ghandi-esqe or terrorist nazis?


  75. vapig
    76 | March 13, 2010 08:24

    @ vagabond trader:

    Oh, and Morning, {{VT}}! Even though it’s almost afternoon.

    Is it raining a miserable up where you are today? I have to go out inot it and I keep puttiong it off. I could’ve already been back by now!


  76. Speranza
    77 | March 13, 2010 08:24

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Loved Archie,lol.

    One of the great TV characters of all time. Uber liberal Norman Lear thought the audience would be laughing at him, instead the audience was laughing with him.


  77. 78 | March 13, 2010 08:25

    @ spidly:

    if tea party people go and make their own salt will they be Ghandi-esqe or terrorist nazis?

    The SALT Party? Sodium Allied Libertarian Terrorists.


  78. snork
    79 | March 13, 2010 08:25

    @ Beltfed:
    I was thinking of the Clintons. But don’t go thinking those dogs can’t hunt. The real problem with that kind of dog in Alaska is that they have no undercoat, and despite the long hair, can’t handle cold weather.


  79. Nevergiveup
    80 | March 13, 2010 08:26

    Speranza wrote:

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Loved Archie,lol.

    One of the great TV characters of all time. Uber liberal Norman Lear thought the audience would be laughing at him, instead the audience was laughing with him.

    Because the way Carrol O’Conner played him, he had such empathy. The meathead was the annoying one.


  80. Speranza
    81 | March 13, 2010 08:27

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    The meathead was the annoying one.

    Gloria annoyed the crap out of me.


  81. vagabond trader
    82 | March 13, 2010 08:27

    @ vapig:

    Will do.Just looked in the “library” and couldn’t find it. Will ask the librarian when he calls. :-)


  82. mfhorn
    83 | March 13, 2010 08:28

    A proposed ‘Pay to play’ tax could bring even MORE government control


  83. vapig
    84 | March 13, 2010 08:28

    spidly wrote:

    vapig wrote:
    ver! Our bodies are made up of salt. We need salt to live! There was also a time when salt was worth more than gold!
    if tea party people go and make their own salt will they be Ghandi-esqe or terrorist nazis?

    Ah, let me guess – OH, I know! B!!!


  84. The Osprey
    85 | March 13, 2010 08:28

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    We have this series, Israel Land of Miracles or something like that. Anyway one episode discusses how Nixon decided to assist Israel in the 73 war.His mother was religous and had impressed on her son that the “chosen people” must be respected and if he ever had the opportunity to help them he must.That sob Kissinger advised against aide but Nixon recalled his mothers words. Don’t know how true it is.

    That sounds a lot like the account in John Loftus’s “The Secret War Against The Jews” which examines conspiracies AGAINST the Jewish people from WWI to the present. According to Loftus, Kissinger was trying to woo a lot of Arab countries away from the Soviets and felt that another overwhelming Israeli victory like ’67, only accomplished with American weapons, would forever damage our relationships with the Arabs. Haig, on the other hand, being a military man, understood the gravity of the situation far better than Kissinger did, that the new mobile SAM batteries the Soviets had provided Egypt and Syria had neutralized Israel’s air superiority. With no air cover, Israel’s armor was hopelessly outnumbered. So it was at that point that Haig, who at that time was White House Chief of Staff, used his military connections to get the Israelis the TOW and make sure their people were trained in how to use it. The TOW proved to be a devastating surprise to the Egyptians and Syrians.


  85. snork
    86 | March 13, 2010 08:29

    spidly wrote:

    if tea party people go and make their own salt will they be Ghandi-esqe or terrorist nazis?

    It’s not that hard to make your own salt.

    1. Go get a few buckets of sea water.
    2. Let them dry out.

    And don’t let the salt warden catch you harvesting sea water without a license.


  86. RIX
    87 | March 13, 2010 08:29

    Beltfed wrote:

    snork @ 59:
    It’s a lab. Labs live to chase birds
    A Portuguese water dog.

    Water Dogs are great family pets. They crave the human touch & I don’t belive that Bo, the Obama dog is feeling the love from Michelle.


  87. vapig
    88 | March 13, 2010 08:29

    Speranza wrote:

    vagabond trader wrote:
    @ Speranza:
    Loved Archie,lol.
    One of the great TV characters of all time. Uber liberal Norman Lear thought the audience would be laughing at him, instead the audience was laughing with him.

    All in the Family was fondue night at my house when I was a kid. We all thought meathead was an ass and Archie was the one will all his marbles! My dad loved him!


  88. snork
    89 | March 13, 2010 08:31

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Because the way Carrol O’Conner played him, he had such empathy. The meathead was the annoying one.

    I have to give Lear credit. He did show Meathead to be a sanctimonious blowhard. I particularly liked the one where he kept treating George Jefferson’s kid as a black object, rather than a person.


  89. spidly
    90 | March 13, 2010 08:31

    snork wrote:

    spidly wrote:

    It’s not that hard to make your own salt.

    1. Go get a few buckets of sea water.
    2. Let them dry out.

    And don’t let the salt warden catch you harvesting sea water without a license.

    It might qualify as attempted murder if you serve your home-made salt to others


  90. vapig
    91 | March 13, 2010 08:32

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    vagabond trader wrote:
    @ Speranza:
    Loved Archie,lol.
    One of the great TV characters of all time. Uber liberal Norman Lear thought the audience would be laughing at him, instead the audience was laughing with him.
    Because the way Carrol O’Conner played him, he had such empathy. The meathead was the annoying one.

    The thing is, Rob Reiner is meathead! Everything he touches has an uber liberal message about it. His shows are unwatchable and he’s switched to kiddie shows so he can indoctrinate the next generation of malcontents!


  91. mfhorn
    92 | March 13, 2010 08:32

    @ snork:

    Things haven’t changed much in the last 30+ years, have they? The left still treats minorities like little children.


  92. 93 | March 13, 2010 08:32

    Speranza wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:
    The meathead was the annoying one.
    Gloria annoyed the crap out of me.

    That show should be revisited and updated. It would take place in San Francisco and the Archie character instead would be a raving lunatic liberal like Olbermann and the daughter a patriotic Tea Party’er. OH the laughs would ensue!


  93. FishFearMe
    94 | March 13, 2010 08:33

    Checkers was some sort of Spaniel, right? Considering who lives in the White House, what is Bo, a pit bull?


  94. 95 | March 13, 2010 08:33

    @ vapig:

    The thing is, Rob Reiner is meathead! Everything he touches has an uber liberal message about it. His shows are unwatchable and he’s switched to kiddie shows so he can indoctrinate the next generation of malcontents!

    Carroll O’Connor was a big lib too.


  95. snork
    96 | March 13, 2010 08:34

    @ vapig:
    Rob Reiner just shows why second-generation is usually mediocre. Dad was hilarious. Junior is…well…a meathead.


  96. RIX
    97 | March 13, 2010 08:35

    @ snork:
    I have to give Lear credit. He did show Meathead to be a sanctimonious blowhard.

    Rob Reiner did a good job playong an ungrateful, sactimonious jerk.
    He lived off of Archie, but found everything about him distasteful & beneath him.


  97. 98 | March 13, 2010 08:36

    FishFearMe wrote:

    Checkers was some sort of Spaniel, right? Considering who lives in the White House, what is Bo, a pit bull?

    Oh heavens no. This is a non-aggressive WH. No animals with teeth, balls or pointed ears allowed.


  98. Nevergiveup
    99 | March 13, 2010 08:36

    Precise details of what transpired in Washington during the first week of the Yom Kippur War, launched by Egypt and Syria on October 6, 1973, are hard to come by, in no small measure owing to conflicting accounts given by Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and Secretary of Defense James Schlesinger regarding their respective roles.

    What is clear, from the preponderance of information provided by those directly involved in the unfolding events, is that President Richard Nixon — overriding inter-administration objections and bureaucratic inertia — implemented a breathtaking transfer of arms, code-named Operation Nickel Grass, that over a four-week period involved hundreds of jumbo U.S. military aircraft delivering more than 22,000 tons of armaments.

    This was accomplished, noted Walter J. Boyne in an article in the December 1998 issue of Air Force Magazine, while “Washington was in the throes of not only post-Vietnam moralizing on Capitol Hill but also the agony of Watergate. . . . Four days into the war, Washington was blindsided again by another political disaster — the forced resignation of Vice President Spiro Agnew.”

    “Both Kissinger and Nixon wanted to do [the airlift],” said former CIA deputy director Vernon Walters, “but Nixon gave it the greater sense of urgency. He said, ‘You get the stuff to Israel. Now. Now.’”

    Boyne, in his book The Two O’Clock War, described a high-level White House meeting on October 9:

    As preoccupied as he was with Watergate, Nixon came straight to the point, announcing that Israel must not lose the war. He ordered that the deliveries of supplies, including aircraft, be sped up and that Israel be told that it could freely expend all of its consumables — ammunition, spare parts, fuel, and so forth — in the certain knowledge that these would be completely replenished by the United States without any delay.

    White House Chief of Staff Alexander Haig concurred:

    As soon as the scope and pattern of Israeli battle losses emerged, Nixon ordered that all destroyed equipment be made up out of U.S. stockpiles, using the very best weapons America possessed. . . . Whatever it takes, he told Kissinger . . . save Israel.

    “It was Nixon who did it,” recalled Nixon’s acting special counsel, Leonard Garment. “I was there. As [bureaucratic bickering between the State and Defense departments] was going back and forth, Nixon said, this is insane. . . . He just ordered Kissinger, “Get your ass out of here and tell those people to move.”

    When Schlesinger initially wanted to send just three transports to Israel because he feared anything more would alarm the Arabs and the Soviets, Nixon snapped: “We are going to get blamed just as much for three as for 300. . . . Get them in the air, now.”

    Haig, in his memoir Inner Circles, wrote that Nixon, frustrated with the initial delays in implementing the airlift and aware that the Soviets had begun airlifting supplies to Egypt and Syria, summoned Kissinger and Schlesinger to the Oval Office on October 12 and “banished all excuses.”

    The president asked Kissinger for a precise accounting of Israel’s military needs, and Kissinger proceeded to read aloud from an itemized list.

    “Double it,” Nixon ordered. “Now get the hell out of here and get the job done.”

    Later, informed of yet another delay — this one because of disagreements in the Pentagon over the type of planes to be used for the airlift — an incensed Nixon shouted at Kissinger, “[Expletive] it, use every one we have. Tell them to send everything that can fly.”

    Nixon acted despite threats of reprisal by Arab oil producers — indeed, the day after Nixon asked Congress for an emergency appropriation of $2.2 billion for Israel, Saudi Arabia’s King Faisal announced an embargo of oil to the U.S. — not to mention Europe’s overwhelming opposition to aiding Israel.

    Some revisionists have taken to claiming Nixon’s actions on behalf of Israel were prompted by Golda Meir, who supposedly threatened to go public with all manner of juicy political and personal information she had on the president. Another commonly cited blackmail scenario, popularized by the play Golda’s Balcony, has Meir putting the squeeze on Nixon by threatening to use nuclear weapons.

    But Mordechai Gazit, who at the time of the Yom Kippur War was director general of the Israeli Foreign Ministry and the Prime Minister’s Office, told authors Gerald Strober and Deborah Hart Strober in Nixon: An Oral History of His Presidency: “The airlift was decided not because we asked for it. Our relations with the United States were not at a point where we could have asked for an airlift; this was beyond our imagination.”

    As for Meir herself, to the end of her life she referred to Nixon as “my president” and told a group of Jewish leaders in Washington shortly after the war: “For generations to come, all will be told of the miracle of the immense planes from the United States bringing in the materiel that meant life to our people.”


  99. snork
    100 | March 13, 2010 08:37

    mfhorn wrote:

    @ snork:
    Things haven’t changed much in the last 30+ years, have they? The left still treats minorities like little children.

    The difference is, these days, Lear would have been tarred and feathered for pointing it out. These days, he’d be considered by the upper west side crowd to be a right-winger for occasionally pointing out meathead’s hypocrisy and banality.


  100. spidly
    101 | March 13, 2010 08:38

    RIX wrote:

    Rob Reiner did a good job playong an ungrateful, sactimonious jerk.
    He lived off of Archie, but found everything about him distasteful & beneath him.

    Typical Boomer, now living off Archie’s grandkids


  101. vagabond trader
    102 | March 13, 2010 08:38

    @ The Osprey:

    Sounds like an interesting book,just scanned some of the reviews on Amazon, thought I was on teh Daily Kos.:-) The husband loves Israeli history,thanks for the info!


  102. snork
    103 | March 13, 2010 08:39

    RIX wrote:

    Rob Reiner did a good job playong an ungrateful, sactimonious jerk.
    He lived off of Archie, but found everything about him distasteful & beneath him.

    Exactly. The liberal elite mentality encapsulated.


  103. 104 | March 13, 2010 08:39

    @ RIX:

    “All in the Family” writer Mickey Ross leaves Yiddish Center $3 million
    Yiddish has a brand new bag—- of cash—thanks to the late comedy writer Mickey Ross who surprised The National Yiddish Book Center in Amherst, MA with a $3 million donation from his estate.

    And that’s not all: the writer/producer of hit sitcoms “All in the Family,” “The Jeffersons” and “Three’s Company” also bequeathed 25-percent of his residual rights to “All in the Family” and other shows to the Yiddish Center, amounting to the largest gift the center had ever received.

    The center’s founder and president, Aaron J. Lansky said he never knew Ross and doesn’t believe he ever visited the center, though Ross had a history of supporting Yiddish causes.

    Lansky first learned of the gift last summer, though he didn’t know of the amount until he received the check.

    “The donation couldn’t possibly be more timely,” he said, noting that the center has spent 30 years rescuing and cataloging Yiddish literature from around the world. “Now we can move to the next step in our work of opening up these treasures and shifting to education and young people.”


  104. snork
    105 | March 13, 2010 08:40

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Oh heavens no. This is a non-aggressive WH. No animals with teeth, balls or pointed ears allowed.

    Never met a pit bull bitch, have you? I could see one and Michelle having a deep mutual understanding.


  105. vagabond trader
    106 | March 13, 2010 08:40

    @ Speranza:

    She was the real dingbat.


  106. vapig
    107 | March 13, 2010 08:41

    @ FishFearMe:

    Love your moniker and avatar. Did you happen to see this?


  107. Nevergiveup
    108 | March 13, 2010 08:41

    Archie was everything Liberals hate. He served his country, He went to work, He bought a house, He paid his mortgage, He got married and had a kid, He voted, and he loved his country right or wrong.


  108. mjazz
    109 | March 13, 2010 08:43

    Yisrael Hayom purports that a Palestinian might say: “And here is our new square. We named it after the most praised hero in the history of our people, the legendary freedom fighter who opposed the occupation and was killed while carrying out her duty, the holy martyr Dalal Mughrabi, may God have mercy. What did she do? Oh, she kidnapped a bus together with her comrades and murdered 37 Israelis, and 70 more were wounded. Children? Women? Of course. They are all soldiers in the army of occupation; they were all children of death. They were always like that. And what about the peace talks? Don’t worry, the Jews are dying to speak with us, it doesn’t matter what we do. What do they do there? Speak. We complain about the Israelis, request more easing of restrictions and more funds, and then we issue a statement to the press that the Israelis are obdurate and not willing to compromise. A lot of those in the media think that. Those Jews, they have an ancient custom: To blame themselves no matter what.’” The author then quotes a Palestinian director who once produced a play in which Dalal Mughrabi was the central figure, “‘Dalal is a symbol of Palestine. We see Dalal as belonging to the Palestinian conscience.’ Penetrating words. That is the Palestinian conscience, and any nonsense on peace talks and agreements and cooperation and the rest of the political spittle are just foam on the surface of our bloody history.”


  109. snork
    110 | March 13, 2010 08:43

    @ vapig:
    Both of you will appreciate the thread coming up @ 6 EST/3 PST.


  110. Doppelganger
    111 | March 13, 2010 08:43

    Today they would portray Archie Bunker as a fool. A racist fool.

    AnAnd Mike Stivik would be a sophisticated progressive. His patronizing tone for Lionel Jefferson would be welcomed in this new progressive world!
    And Lionel would be wearing a bow tie


  111. Speranza
    112 | March 13, 2010 08:43

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    That show should be revisited and updated. It would take place in San Francisco and the Archie character instead would be a raving lunatic liberal like Olbermann and the daughter a patriotic Tea Party’er. OH the laughs would ensue!

    Olbermann is the perfect example of what a true leftie ideologue is all about.


  112. Beltfed
    113 | March 13, 2010 08:44

    snork @ 79:

    The original Portuguese Water Dogs (Cão da Agua) were bred to serve on cod fishing vessels they were trained to rescue fishermen that fell over board.

    The Portuguese Cod Fishing Fleet that fished off the Grand banks and up in the Davis straits always carried at least one of the Portuguese Water Dogs.
    Even to this day a Portuguese Water Dog is carried aboard the Creoula a restored Cod fishing schooner.

    The local fishermen also carried these dogs aboard their coastal fishing boats. A long standing tradition that lives to this day.


  113. vagabond trader
    114 | March 13, 2010 08:45

    @ Urban Infidel:

    How wonderful!


  114. Speranza
    115 | March 13, 2010 08:46

    @ Urban Infidel:
    O’Connor was a huge lib, however he gave Archie a lot of humanity.
    Rob Reiner as thinking of runnign for Governor of California. Why bother, Arnold is pretty much a lib himself.


  115. snork
    116 | March 13, 2010 08:46

    Doppelganger wrote:

    And Lionel would be wearing a bow tie

    And an Obama button.


  116. Macker
    117 | March 13, 2010 08:46

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Speranza wrote:

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Loved Archie,lol.

    One of the great TV characters of all time. Uber liberal Norman Lear thought the audience would be laughing at him, instead the audience was laughing with him.

    Because the way Carrol O’Conner played him, he had such empathy. The meathead was the annoying one.

    And he still is today.


  117. RIX
    118 | March 13, 2010 08:46

    @ snork:
    Exactly. The liberal elite mentality encapsulated

    Meat Head felt entitled & that precluded gratitude.
    He showed his true self several years after he graduated by divorcing Gloria.
    Am I over analyzing a sitcom?


  118. Nevergiveup
    119 | March 13, 2010 08:47

    RIX wrote:

    @ snork:
    Exactly. The liberal elite mentality encapsulated

    Meat Head felt entitled & that precluded gratitude.
    He showed his true self several years after he graduated by divorcing Gloria.
    Am I over analyzing a sitcom?

    For a sober person- yes


  119. snork
    120 | March 13, 2010 08:48

    Speranza wrote:

    Rob Reiner as thinking of runnign for Governor of California.

    Question is, can he out-meathead Jerry Brown?


  120. vagabond trader
    121 | March 13, 2010 08:49

    @ snork:

    Gad, what a choice!

    “Didn’t need no welfare state,everybody pulled his weight….”


  121. Nevergiveup
    122 | March 13, 2010 08:49

    snork wrote:

    Speranza wrote:

    Rob Reiner as thinking of runnign for Governor of California.

    Question is, can he out-meathead Jerry Brown?

    neither of them have any hair left


  122. Speranza
    123 | March 13, 2010 08:50

    snork wrote:

    Question is, can he out-meathead Jerry Brown?

    Former Governor Moonbeam is more sensible.


  123. Nevergiveup
    124 | March 13, 2010 08:50

    All in the Family


  124. Speranza
    125 | March 13, 2010 08:50

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    neither of them have any hair left

    Reiner wore a rug during the All in the Family years.


  125. Doppelganger
    126 | March 13, 2010 08:51

    Obama couldn’t carry Nixon’s water dog


  126. snork
    127 | March 13, 2010 08:51

    RIX wrote:

    Meat Head felt entitled & that precluded gratitude.
    He showed his true self several years after he graduated by divorcing Gloria.
    Am I over analyzing a sitcom?

    Except I think it does reflect larger social trends. The meatheads of the world, who use their women and then discard them, will also call Buzzsawmonkey you a misogynist for disagreeing with their use of women.


  127. RIX
    128 | March 13, 2010 08:52

    @ Beltfed:
    After their defeat in the Roman/Galic War, the Gale refuged down the Iberian Penninsula & discovered Water Dogs.
    They were impressed by their ability to learn, friendliness & their working dog abilities.
    They took the dogs with them to Ireland , where they are bred to this day.


  128. Nevergiveup
    129 | March 13, 2010 08:52

    Doppelganger wrote:

    Obama couldn’t carry Nixon’s water dog

    Obama couldn’t carry Nixon’s Dog’s urine


  129. snork
    130 | March 13, 2010 08:53

    Speranza wrote:

    Former Governor Moonbeam is more sensible.

    Fuldkommen Gak!!!!!11


  130. FishFearMe
    131 | March 13, 2010 08:53

    @ vapig:
    Thanks,vapig, for the nice words and the link. If the stuff in that story even APPROACHES becoming reality, I’ll change my nic to “EnviroWeeniesFearMeOrShould”. :)


  131. Beltfed
  132. Speranza
    133 | March 13, 2010 08:54

    They gave “Gloria” a spion off called “Gloria” which lasted all of 3 episodes. She and Joey move upstate and she becomes an assistant to a veternarian.

    All in the Family gave us these spinoffs
    1. Maude
    2. Good Times
    3. The Jeffersons
    4. Archie Bunker’s Place
    5. Gloria
    Archie Bunker’s Place was not bad, however it was a bit of a stretch to imagine Archie running a business. Also that great niece of his “Stephanie” served no purpose/


  133. Nevergiveup
    134 | March 13, 2010 08:56

    Speranza wrote:

    Also that great niece of his “Stephanie” served no purpose/

    I thought stephanie moved to Alaska, changed her name, married a stud, and went into politics?


  134. snork
    135 | March 13, 2010 08:56

    @ Beltfed:
    They do it in Baja, too. In the ’90s, the chlorine/caustic plant I was working at was paying $22/ton delivered. Sometimes solar power does pencil out.


  135. 136 | March 13, 2010 08:57

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Urban Infidel:
    How wonderful!

    I know. It brings a tear to my eye. How beautiful.


  136. Speranza
    137 | March 13, 2010 08:57

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    I thought stephanie moved to Alaska, changed her name, married a stud, and went into politics?

    Now that is funny. The actress was Danielle Brisbois. She was a cute kid on All in the Family but an awkward looking young adolescent on Archie Bunker’s Place.


  137. snork
    138 | March 13, 2010 08:59

    Norman Lear was also behind Sanford and Son, which was politically incorrect back then:


  138. 139 | March 13, 2010 08:59

    @ Speranza:

    They gave “Gloria” a spion off called “Gloria” which lasted all of 3 episodes. She and Joey move upstate and she becomes an assistant to a veternarian.

    They should have had Gloria move in upstate with Rosie O’Donnell and Rachel Maddow and start freegan collective.


  139. FishFearMe
    140 | March 13, 2010 09:02

    @ snork:
    One of the greatest scenes ever. Tarzan movie….bwahahahahahaha


  140. chickadee
    141 | March 13, 2010 09:02

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Archie was everything Liberals hate. He served his country, He went to work, He bought a house, He paid his mortgage, He got married and had a kid, He voted, and he loved his country right or wrong.

    Without citizens like this, the left would have no one to steal from. These people are the ones who keep America going. And the left has the nerve to look down on us. I fcking hate them.


  141. Nevergiveup
    142 | March 13, 2010 09:02

    snork wrote:

    Norman Lear was also behind Sanford and Son, which was politically incorrect back then:

    Funny thing is ( and that was funny ) they could NOT do that today? And you call that progress?


  142. 143 | March 13, 2010 09:03

    @ Speranza:

    O’Connor was a huge lib, however he gave Archie a lot of humanity.

    True. He did. He was the show.


  143. snork
    144 | March 13, 2010 09:04

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Funny thing is ( and that was funny ) they could NOT do that today? And you call that progress?

    I don’t. They do. And these same people drape themselves in the First Amendment when it comes to art that offends Christians. But not Muslims.

    I don’t get it.


  144. chickadee
    145 | March 13, 2010 09:05

    Beltfed wrote:

    snork @ 79:

    The original Portuguese Water Dogs (Cão da Agua) were bred to serve on cod fishing vessels they were trained to rescue fishermen that fell over board.

    The Portuguese Cod Fishing Fleet that fished off the Grand banks and up in the Davis straits always carried at least one of the Portuguese Water Dogs.
    Even to this day a Portuguese Water Dog is carried aboard the Creoula a restored Cod fishing schooner.

    The local fishermen also carried these dogs aboard their coastal fishing boats. A long standing tradition that lives to this day.

    I love Portuguese Water Dogs. My friend has one. It’s adorable.


  145. mawskrat
    146 | March 13, 2010 09:05

    Beltfed wrote:

    snork @ 86:
    Salt Evaporating ponds in Portugal.

    watched a show on salt mining under the great lakes.
    trust me I’m no engineer but is that a wise thing to do.lol


  146. vapig
    147 | March 13, 2010 09:06

    Must go out and brave the slop! Sigh – my fault. This could’ve been done hours ago!


  147. Nevergiveup
    148 | March 13, 2010 09:06

    snork wrote:

    I don’t get it.

    Sure ya do


  148. snork
    149 | March 13, 2010 09:07

    mawskrat wrote:

    watched a show on salt mining under the great lakes.
    trust me I’m no engineer but is that a wise thing to do.lol

    Not when you can do it from seawater for under $100/ton. But sea salt has a lot of calcium and magnesium, and may not be suitable for some uses.


  149. RIX
    150 | March 13, 2010 09:07

    @ chickadee:
    I love Portuguese Water Dogs. My friend has one. It’s adorable.

    We have our second right now. They are very smart & very loyal.


  150. Nevergiveup
    151 | March 13, 2010 09:08

    EOUL, South Korea — Henry Kissinger, the former United States secretary of state, was hospitalized here because of stomach pains on Saturday. But his condition has quickly improved, said a spokesman for Yonsei University’s Severance Hospital in Seoul.

    “There is nothing serious about his condition,” Lee Seong-man, the hospital spokesman, said during a telephone interview. “His condition is continuing to improve, and in a case like this, we expect him to leave hospital tomorrow.”

    Mr. Kissinger, 86, was brought to the hospital on Saturday morning for abdominal pains, Mr. Lee said. The spokesman said that he had no further details on Mr. Kissinger’s condition.

    Mr. Kissinger arrived in Seoul on Wednesday and the next day delivered a speech at the Asan Institute for Policy Studies, a private think tank. On Friday, he met South Korea President Lee Myung-bak and was reportedly scheduled to leave Seoul on Saturday.

    What do they eat in South Korea?????


  151. snork
    152 | March 13, 2010 09:09

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    What do they eat in South Korea?????

    What don’t they eat?


  152. vagabond trader
    153 | March 13, 2010 09:10

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Bow wow.


  153. Beltfed
    154 | March 13, 2010 09:10

    RIX @ 128:

    They took the dogs with them to Ireland , where they are bred to this day.

    That I didn’t know, learn something everyday.

    Here’s the web site of a Brother Marine and Nam vet that breeds water dogs


  154. Bordm
    155 | March 13, 2010 09:13

    @ vapig:

    Worse thing he ever did IMHO was to leave us with the EPA. Although, at the time (Lake Erie dead, acid rain, Indians crying with litter strewn oround their feet) it probably seemed like a sane idea.

    Iron Eyes Cody was born Espera DeCorti, the son of two first-generation immigrants from Italy. In 1924 he moved to California, changed his name – already shortened from “DeCorti” to “Corti” – to Cody, and started working as an actor, presenting himself as a Native American.
    He was the man who played the Indian that sheds a single tear for a blighted American environment in “Keep America Beautiful” ads that ran from 1971 into the 1980s.


  155. snork
    156 | March 13, 2010 09:14


  156. Doppelganger
    157 | March 13, 2010 09:14

    @ Nevergiveup:

    you’ll never see a stray cat.

    that’s all I’ll say


  157. 159 | March 13, 2010 09:19

    @ vagabond trader:

    Irish police have released three of the seven people arrested on Tuesday in connection with an alleged plot to murder a Swedish cartoonist over a drawing depicting the Prophet Mohammad with the body of a dog.

    It’s like a headline from The Onion, only horribly, horribly real.


  158. Nevergiveup
    160 | March 13, 2010 09:20

    It was every businessperson’s nightmare.

    Arriving at Harv’s Metro Car Wash in midtown Wednesday afternoon were two dark-suited IRS agents demanding payment of delinquent taxes. “They were deadly serious, very aggressive, very condescending,” says Harv’s owner, Aaron Zeff.

    The really odd part of this: The letter that was hand-delivered to Zeff’s on-site manager showed the amount of money owed to the feds was … 4 cents.

    Inexplicably, penalties and taxes accruing on the debt – stemming from the 2006 tax year – were listed as $202.31, leaving Harv’s with an obligation of $202.35.

    Zeff, who also owns local parking lots and is the president of the Midtown Business Association, finds the situation a bit comical.

    “It’s hilarious,” he says, “that two people hopped in a car and came down here for just 4 cents. I think (the IRS) may have a problem with priorities.”

    Now he’s trying to figure out how penalties and interest could climb so high on such a small debt. He says he’s never been told he owes any taxes or that he’s ever incurred any late-payment penalties in the four years he’s owned Harv’s.

    In fact, he provided us with an Oct. 22, 2009, letter from the IRS that states Harv’s “has filed all required returns and addressed any balances due.”

    IRS spokesman Jesse Weller isn’t commenting “due to privacy and disclosure laws.”

    Zeff says he’s as offended as much as anything else by what he considers rude behavior by the IRS guys. While at Harv’s, he sniffs, “they didn’t even get a car wash.”


  159. 161 | March 13, 2010 09:20

    Did I miss the prayer list post? or do i just not know what day it’s usually posted?


  160. mawskrat
    162 | March 13, 2010 09:22

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Bow wow.

    bow wow wow


  161. RIX
    163 | March 13, 2010 09:22

    Beltfed wrote:

    RIX @ 128:
    They took the dogs with them to Ireland , where they are bred to this day.
    That I didn’t know, learn something everyday.
    Here’s the web site of a Brother Marine and Nam vet that breeds water dogs

    Your buddy must be having fun breeding them. Water dog breeders are a very ehical group. I have never heard of a puppy mill with them & I do hope that continues.
    Ours is a male & he has a lot of white markings like a Border Collie & people ask if he is a Sheep Dog, but he is most definitely a Water Dog


  162. vagabond trader
  163. mfhorn
    165 | March 13, 2010 09:24

    @ vagabond trader:

    And if either of the cartoonists defended themselves with ‘deadly force’, they’d be arrested & jailed.

    It’s probably a good thing I’ve got NO artistic talent. The prophet Mo as a stick figure just doesn’t have the same impact.


  164. Beltfed
    166 | March 13, 2010 09:25

    mawskrat @ 146:

    I saw that show. One cave in and the lakes empty, lol


  165. mfhorn
    167 | March 13, 2010 09:26

    @ vagabond trader:

    An Obama crapper would be racist.


  166. snork
    168 | March 13, 2010 09:26

    @ Kirly:
    At’s tomorrow.


  167. Doppelganger
    169 | March 13, 2010 09:26

    vagabond trader wrote:

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20100313/tts-uk-ireland-cartoonist-ca02f96.html
    Swell.

    but the creationists are the greatest threat to the world!

    /


  168. vagabond trader
    170 | March 13, 2010 09:27

    @ Nevergiveup:

    The scariest part is the IRS will have authority over he11care compliance.


  169. 171 | March 13, 2010 09:28

    @ vagabond trader:
    these people are despicable! we should take stickers with obamas dumb face on them and paste them in urinals and toilets. how fast would it be called racism? i hope these people spend eternity in hell.


  170. mfhorn
    172 | March 13, 2010 09:29

    @ Nevergiveup:

    I’d suggest paying the whole thing in $1′s, but it’d just hack the feds off and guarantee an audit.


  171. snork
    173 | March 13, 2010 09:29

    We’re talking about dogs, so this (@BVoAF) must be about us:

    White Dog (Art Becomes Reality)

    Weird | Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:47:19 pm PST

    Wow, the things you learn by looking at #tcot (Top Conservatives On Twitter).

    Did you know there’s a whole genre of YouTube videos dedicated to showing dogs who hate President Obama?

    Dog hates Obama.

    Check out the related videos.

    Apparently, this kind of thing is highly amusing to the modern conservative.

    And this racist insanity is not new.


  172. 174 | March 13, 2010 09:29

    snork wrote:

    @ Kirly:
    At’s tomorrow.

    thanks snork! :-)

    i have an important addition to request and didn’t want to miss my opportunity.


  173. snork
    175 | March 13, 2010 09:31

    Yeesh:

    204 Cato the Elder Fri, Mar 12, 2010 7:57:23pm

    Frogs and trogs live happily in bogs.
    Dogs and progs prefer to play on blogs.
    Frogs hop happily around,
    While trogs in their caves hunker huffily down.
    Progs and dogs see things as rosy,
    And want all of us to be just as cozy.


  174. mfhorn
    176 | March 13, 2010 09:31

    @ snork:

    How the h-ll is a dog peeing on Obama’s picture, or whatever the videos are showing, racist?

    Must be because it’s anything other than blind worship of the man.


  175. mfhorn
    177 | March 13, 2010 09:32

    @ snork:

    Frogs? Isn’t that offensive to the French?


  176. snork
    178 | March 13, 2010 09:32

    451 iceweasel Fri, Mar 12, 2010 9:04:53pm

    Small personal note here: FUCK YOOOU, exchange rate!

    /that is all.

    Don’t like the Zero dollar?


  177. Nevergiveup
    179 | March 13, 2010 09:33

    mfhorn wrote:

    @ snork:

    Frogs? Isn’t that offensive to the French?

    Nah, another man sleeping with wife of the French President might be offensive…oh wait…sorry, their fine with that apparently? Never mind.


  178. Doppelganger
    180 | March 13, 2010 09:34

    snork wrote:

    451 iceweasel Fri, Mar 12, 2010 9:04:53pm
    Small personal note here: FUCK YOOOU, exchange rate!
    /that is all.
    Don’t like the Zero dollar?

    classy lady

    /


  179. Poteen
    181 | March 13, 2010 09:35

    @ Beltfed:

    They took the dogs with them to Ireland , where they are bred to this day.

    Looks like they went by way of France.//

    OT Anybody with a sock know if Mandy changed her avatar?


  180. snork
    182 | March 13, 2010 09:36

    @ Doppelganger:
    Cursing the exchange rate. Brilliant.

    George Soros, she ain’t.


  181. gulfloafer
    183 | March 13, 2010 09:36

    @ snork:
    Damn, I can’t believe I missed the swamp-bash open thread last night. What’s up with Mandy’s avatar?


  182. snork
    184 | March 13, 2010 09:38

    gulfloafer wrote:

    What’s up with Mandy’s avatar?

    Jimmah’s objecting, and – shocker – KKKilgore’s standing up for Mandy.


  183. Beltfed
    185 | March 13, 2010 09:39

    RIX @ 163:

    Your buddy must be having fun breeding them. Water dog breeders are a very ehical group

    He is proud, last reunion he had two of his dogs with him, beautiful dogs.

    When news that the zero had decided on the water dog he got swamped with phone calls from TV and Newspapers for interviews. He was speechless.

    Chuck Teasley C 1/26 on News 10


  184. snork
    186 | March 13, 2010 09:40

    OT – can someone give Glenn Reynolds a decent haircut? Please?


  185. gulfloafer
    187 | March 13, 2010 09:42

    snork wrote:

    gulfloafer wrote:
    What’s up with Mandy’s avatar?
    Jimmah’s objecting, and – shocker – KKKilgore’s standing up for Mandy.

    LMAO! And so it begins; lines are being drawn in the sand. All socks on deck!


  186. Doppelganger
    188 | March 13, 2010 09:43

    Mandy is a fool to stay there. they don’t like her. she doesn’t fit in.

    she is I’m sure sick of compromising her core beliefs.

    LEAVE AND BE FREE MANDY!


  187. mfhorn
    189 | March 13, 2010 09:43

    @ Poteen:

    Was that the one of Calvin peeing on some Arabic-looking script? It was up when I posted last night.


  188. Beltfed
    190 | March 13, 2010 09:45

    Poteen @ 181:
    Nope, still hanging on, lol


  189. Poteen
    191 | March 13, 2010 09:46

    mfhorn wrote:

    @ Poteen:
    Was that the one of Calvin peeing on some Arabic-looking script? It was up when I posted last night.

    Yea. Mandy Cato and Weazy are back this AM with no mention of the avatar issue. I can’t see the avatars so I don’t know if she caved.


  190. Doppelganger
    192 | March 13, 2010 09:46

    She should change her avatar to Piss Christ.

    see what happens. They’d applaud her for embracing diversity of thought


  191. Poteen
    193 | March 13, 2010 09:47

    Beltfed wrote:

    Poteen @ 181:
    Nope, still hanging on, lol

    Atta girl!


  192. vagabond trader
    194 | March 13, 2010 09:47

    @ Kirly:

    @ mfhorn:

    The mind of a libral.

    The story comments are pretty good.


  193. Poteen
    195 | March 13, 2010 09:49

    Check the picture!http://michellemalkin.com/


  194. vagabond trader
    196 | March 13, 2010 09:50

    @ Doppelganger:

    Don’t really care either way,it might be humiliating for her to ask for sanctuary elsewhere.Maybe a friend with her addy ought to intervene.


  195. Doppelganger
    197 | March 13, 2010 09:52

    @ vagabond trader:

    so she should flounce and start over with a clean slate. I think it’s more humiliating to stick around and take shit for sticking by your core beliefs.
    She hasn’t left 1.0
    1.0 left her ( and lots of people)

    difdifference is, the people who refused to bend and change who they were to please that douchebag with a pony tail, got the Hell out of there


  196. RIX
    198 | March 13, 2010 09:52

    @ Beltfed:
    I was very unhappy that the Obamas chose a Water Dog. My fear is that they will become very popular & new breeders wiil pop up & open puppie mills.
    As it stands now the breeders are very careful & ethical.
    They even scrreen prospective owners very carefully.’


  197. gulfloafer
    199 | March 13, 2010 09:54

    Doppelganger wrote:

    Mandy is a fool to stay there. they don’t like her. she doesn’t fit in.
    she is I’m sure sick of compromising her core beliefs.
    LEAVE AND BE FREE MANDY!

    She sure does everything she can to try and fit in at that hell hole. When selrahC is finished toying with her she’ll meet the same fate as the other sychophants. As far as her “core beliefs” go, I’d really like to know what those are?


  198. snork
    200 | March 13, 2010 09:55

    @ vagabond trader:
    I think KKKilgore sees Mandy as his buffer. Once she’s gone, he might become the weasel’s next meal.

    The place is like Survivor.


  199. vagabond trader
    201 | March 13, 2010 09:56

    @ snork:

    It could get rather Byzantine, esp when the muzz contigent arrive.


  200. Doppelganger
    202 | March 13, 2010 09:56

    @ gulfloafer:

    as best as I could tell ( and from recollection as I don’t visit that shithole anymore for over 6 months ) she was a quasi-conservative.

    certainly was a big Rudy supporter, and anybody who referred to Obama as FCBBHO had their head screwed on right.

    so she’s caved in lots to remain. that’s her business. I find it sad and pathetic.

    she should flounce. tell iceweasel where she can stick it, and leave with a shred of self respect intact


  201. snork
  202. RIX
    204 | March 13, 2010 09:56

    @ Doppelganger:
    so she should flounce and start over with a clean slate. I think it’s more humiliating to stick around and take shit for sticking by your core beliefs.

    Mandy is putting up a hell of a fight over there.
    I must say that I am impressed. How does she avoid being banned?


  203. snork
    205 | March 13, 2010 09:57

    vagabond trader wrote:

    It could get rather Byzantine, esp when the muzz contigent arrive.

    Why would they waste their time at that place?


  204. snork
    206 | March 13, 2010 09:58

    RIX wrote:

    Mandy is putting up a hell of a fight over there.
    I must say that I am impressed. How does she avoid being banned?

    Chunkles can’t resist a woman who talks dirty.


  205. vagabond trader
    207 | March 13, 2010 09:59

    @ Doppelganger:

    Yeah, we Americans are a forgiving lot. Or maybe she really enjoys the notariety. Who the he11 knows,anyone with brain waves should have left by 6 months ago. Those who stayed have “issues.”


  206. mfhorn
    208 | March 13, 2010 09:59

    @ RIX:

    Good for them. My wife’s a huge fan of Golden Retrievers, and I like those and the Westies. I hate seeing ANY breed turned into fodder for puppy mills though. Every cat or dog I’ve owned has come from a shelter or was adopted from being a stray.


  207. vagabond trader
    209 | March 13, 2010 10:00

    @ snork:

    The joint is evolving ? Have to keep the diversity train going.Bleeeech.


  208. gulfloafer
    210 | March 13, 2010 10:01

    snork wrote:

    @ vagabond trader:
    I think KKKilgore sees Mandy as his buffer. Once she’s gone, he might become the weasel’s next meal.
    The place is like Survivor.

    It is! They’re probably getting college grant money to run a psych experiment on intertubes correlation analysis. CW hit it square, the place is a nut house.


  209. Poteen
    211 | March 13, 2010 10:01

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Doppelganger:
    Don’t really care either way,it might be humiliating for her to ask for sanctuary elsewhere.Maybe a friend with her addy ought to intervene.

    Explain that the options are being a psychotic, right wing, guns and God addicted internet stalker militiawoman or a Progressive, Pudgy, Ponytailed Plucker’s pecker sucker.////


  210. mfhorn
    212 | March 13, 2010 10:02

    AG Holder Didn’t Reveal All


  211. vagabond trader
    213 | March 13, 2010 10:02

    @ mfhorn:

    Ours have all been orphans and throw aways.I would try a specific breed rescue if a pure bred was wanted. Like RIX says, bet there will be a lot of homeless water dogs due to the Obama pet. Sad “unintended consequence.”


  212. vagabond trader
    214 | March 13, 2010 10:03

    @ Poteen:

    Oh lol, tee hee chortle guffaw. :lol: :lol: :lol:


  213. gulfloafer
    215 | March 13, 2010 10:05

    @ Doppelganger:
    “she should flounce. tell iceweasel where she can stick it, and leave with a shred of self respect intact”

    I agree. But I doubt she has her “coming to Jesus” moment anytime soon. She’s too vested and the Stockholm is strong in that one.


  214. RIX
    216 | March 13, 2010 10:06

    529 Charles
    Sat, Mar 13, 2010 9:58:37am replyquote 3downupreport

    So far today I’ve received three hate mails about Hillary Clinton’s statement on Israeli settlement building

    .

    The creeping anti-Israel conversion of CJ continues.
    He’ll be even more into it when Jimmahs new BFF Muslim pals arrive.


  215. vagabond trader
    217 | March 13, 2010 10:07

    @ gulfloafer:

    Stockholm and the cultish features of the place.


  216. Poteen
    218 | March 13, 2010 10:08

    @ RIX:
    He’ll finally ‘belong’ somewhere.

    bbl


  217. vagabond trader
    219 | March 13, 2010 10:10

    @ RIX:

    Oh my, let me guess, Israel is on the precipice of being tossed out of paradise by the blogtator and his fruit and water un-matahari amour?


  218. gulfloafer
    220 | March 13, 2010 10:13

    @ vagabond trader:
    Those who stayed have “issues.”

    That’s putting it mildly vagabond. It’s my opinion that anyone who would stay there and compromise their principals, assuming they’ve got any, lack any semblance of self-respect.


  219. RIX
    221 | March 13, 2010 10:14

    @ mfhorn:
    Good for them. My wife’s a huge fan of Golden Retrievers

    Retrievers are great dogs, but you have to be careful.
    We had one years ago & it turned out that the breeder was running a puppy mill.
    There were problems with the entire litter.


  220. Beltfed
    222 | March 13, 2010 10:14

    RIX @ 198:

    My fear is that they will become very popular & new breeders wiil pop up & open puppie mills.
    As it stands now the breeders are very careful & ethical.
    They even scrreen prospective owners very carefully.’

    You’re right, my buddy Chuck said that he has received numerous calls from people who want to buy the water dogs as first time pets, he refuses to sell to any of them.

    He’s very picky of who gets one of his dogs.


  221. gulfloafer
    223 | March 13, 2010 10:14

    RIX wrote:

    529 Charles
    Sat, Mar 13, 2010 9:58:37am replyquote 3downupreport
    So far today I’ve received three hate mails about Hillary Clinton’s statement on Israeli settlement building
    .
    The creeping anti-Israel conversion of CJ continues.
    He’ll be even more into it when Jimmahs new BFF Muslim pals arrive.

    Oh Charles! I’m so sorry …
    -Sharmuta


  222. RIX
    224 | March 13, 2010 10:14

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Oh my, let me guess, Israel is on the precipice of being tossed out of paradise by the blogtator and his fruit and water un-matahari amour?

    I would make book on it.


  223. snork
    225 | March 13, 2010 10:15

    @ RIX:
    Why would people, angry at Clinton, send “hate mail” to Chunkles?

    Capital B Capital S.


  224. RIX
    226 | March 13, 2010 10:16

    @ gulfloafer:
    Cj just gets worse & worse. Where is the bottom?


  225. snork
    227 | March 13, 2010 10:17

    @ vagabond trader:
    Several of us have been predicting that for months. The ship turns slowly, but she turns definitely.


  226. RIX
    228 | March 13, 2010 10:18
    snork wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Why would people, angry at Clinton, send “hate mail” to Chunkles?
    Capital B Capital S.

    Just speculating , but Chuck must have jumped on board the Israeli bashing over new construction in Jeruslem.
    Earlier he was claiming that he is getting death threats over Mandys avatar


  227. snork
    229 | March 13, 2010 10:19

    Beltfed wrote:

    You’re right, my buddy Chuck said that he has received numerous calls from people who want to buy the water dogs as first time pets, and fruit, he refuses to sell to any of them.

    I thought you got the stick.


  228. gulfloafer
    230 | March 13, 2010 10:21

    Now that Sharmuta is gone, is there anybody over there who really cares about his hate mail? Earth to selrahC; you run a blog, you simple jackass, of course there’s going to be people who don’t agree with you on issues. Why do you feel the need to let the entire world know about it every damn day?

    What a self-absorbed buffoon.


  229. snork
    231 | March 13, 2010 10:25

    @ gulfloafer:
    I’m not buying that all of it’s real. Some, probably. All, no.


  230. gulfloafer
    232 | March 13, 2010 10:25

    RIX wrote:

    @ gulfloafer:
    Cj just gets worse & worse. Where is the bottom?

    He’s in uncharted intertubes territory. A real trail-blazer in treachery and deceit.


  231. RIX
    233 | March 13, 2010 10:25

    @ Beltfed:
    You’re right, my buddy Chuck said that he has received numerous calls from people who want to buy the water dogs as first time pets, he refuses to sell to any of them.

    He’s very picky of who gets one of his dogs.

    They are very reputable as a group. We got our second Water Dog , because we got our first from a friend of the breeder, who vouched for us.
    She calls all of the time & is very interested in all of her dogs.
    We’re beyond it, but for people with small children these dogs are a great choice.


  232. gulfloafer
    234 | March 13, 2010 10:28

    snork wrote:

    @ gulfloafer:
    I’m not buying that all of it’s real. Some, probably. All, no.

    Most of it is taken out of context and some is no doubt outright fabricated.


  233. Beltfed
    235 | March 13, 2010 10:30

    snork @ 227:

    The ship turns slowly, but she turns definitely.

    Like the aircraft carrier he mention on the Dangerous Minds interview. lol


  234. RIX
    236 | March 13, 2010 10:31
    544 Charles
    Sat, Mar 13, 2010 10:02:28am replyquote 6downupreport

    re: #538 NJDhockeyfan

    Why did they send you hate mail? Hillary made the statements, not you.

    Here’s one:

    Moment of truth, bitch. Now we’ll see just how far left you have sunk. Israel makes unilateral concessions, the Palestinians respond by murdering Jews, and your hero Obama identifies Israel as being the impediment to peace. Live down to expectations, just ignore it, and focus on the diabolical Creationists. So, were you always a fraud, or has there been some severe head trauma that corrupted you?

    Interesting


  235. gulfloafer
    237 | March 13, 2010 10:32

    RIX wrote:

    544 Charles
    Sat, Mar 13, 2010 10:02:28am replyquote 6downupreport
    re: #538 NJDhockeyfan
    Why did they send you hate mail? Hillary made the statements, not you.
    Here’s one:
    Moment of truth, bitch. Now we’ll see just how far left you have sunk. Israel makes unilateral concessions, the Palestinians respond by murdering Jews, and your hero Obama identifies Israel as being the impediment to peace. Live down to expectations, just ignore it, and focus on the diabolical Creationists. So, were you always a fraud, or has there been some severe head trauma that corrupted you?
    Interesting

    KKKigore sent him that one.


  236. FishFearMe
    238 | March 13, 2010 10:39

    I mentioned this in the “LGF Asylum” thread, but I wanted to share it again. I was “stealth-banned” from The Sewer. The only thing that bothers me about it is that I lost my lucrative LGF Twinkie Concession.


  237. snork
    239 | March 13, 2010 10:40

    @ RIX:
    Obviously it’s because Chunkles has the power to control Hillary. Verily, he has the power to control Obama. That’s why this “person” is mad at Chunkles over this.

    It helps if you put on your psychosis helmet first.


  238. snork
    240 | March 13, 2010 10:42

    @ FishFearMe:
    Just a heads up, since you’re a fish type. Fishing thread @ 6 EST/3 PST.


  239. Beltfed
    241 | March 13, 2010 10:45

    snork @ 229:

    I thought you got the stick.

    My buddy Chuck, a Marine Grunt, not some limp wristed wimp from a gated community in Culver City.

    Chuckie Huskie can wave his “stick” all he wants, like the tooth fairies, it don’t mean jack.

    My kind of “sticks”


  240. Doppelganger
    242 | March 13, 2010 10:50

    gulfloafer wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    529 Charles
    Sat, Mar 13, 2010 9:58:37am replyquote 3downupreport
    So far today I’ve received sent myself three hate mails about Hillary Clinton’s statement on Israeli settlement building

    fixed


  241. FishFearMe
    243 | March 13, 2010 10:50

    @ snork:

    I await it with “baited” breath.
    /Buzz off :)


  242. Doppelganger
    244 | March 13, 2010 10:51

    Chuck Cyber Shaheed Johnson

    Like muhchausen syndrome, he sends his own hate mail. Self inflicted martyrdom!


  243. vagabond trader
    245 | March 13, 2010 10:51

    Scott Brown delivers a nicely crafted rebuttal of Husseins weekly lecture.

    http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/


  244. RIX
    246 | March 13, 2010 10:52

    @ Doppelganger:

    Yup, that’s what I think.


  245. vagabond trader
    247 | March 13, 2010 10:52

    @ Doppelganger:

    You’ve hit on something there. Like the way you think.


  246. Beltfed
    248 | March 13, 2010 10:55

    RIX @ 236:

    Calling Cj a bitch is hate mail, WOW


  247. RIX
    249 | March 13, 2010 10:55

    @ snork:
    Obviou

    it’s because Chunkles has the power to control Hillary

    Husky has delusions of granduer,


  248. RIX
    250 | March 13, 2010 10:57

    Beltfed wrote:

    RIX @ 236:
    Calling Cj a bitch is hate mail, WOW

    He prefers beyotch, it has street cred.


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