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From the Department of “There You Go Again.”

by Bunk X ( 227 Comments › )
Filed under Democratic Party, Free Speech, Patriotism, Political Correctness, Politics, Progressives, Racism, Republican Party, Second Amendment, Socialism at March 16th, 2010 - 7:30 pm

Once again, when liberals run out of logical points to attack conservatives, they attempt to smear the entire G.O.P.  as racists without a shred of evidence, while ignoring the evil racist history of the Democrat Party itself.

Without a shred of evidence, they manufacture racism, promote it, and attempt to paste it onto the platform of the one Party that eliminated slavery, promoted and passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and fought against racial discrimination.

The following is a speech that should be reviewed and republished every few years.  While the Democrats were mocking Charleton Heston for his support of the 2nd Amendment, his leadership in the National Rifle Association, and his diagnosis with early Alzheimer’s [did you get that? The Dems actually made fun of a person with an incurable debilitating disorder?] Charleton Heston gave the Keynote Address at the Free Congress Foundation’s 20th Anniversary Gala function thirteen years ago.

Charlton Heston’s Keynote Address at the Free Congress Foundation’s 20th Anniversary Gala

December 20, 1997

What an honor it is to address the Free Congress Foundation. At a glance “Free” reads as a verb rather than an adjective. “Free Congress.” Not a bad directive for Mr. Clinton. Anyway…

I like it when the party of Lincoln honors our free heritage. This nation has been blessed by the minds and mettle of many good people, and indeed Abe was among the best. A man of great moral character, a trait often lacking among our leaders. This is disturbing, but not without remedy. One good election can correct such ills.

Above all, I hope those of us gathered here tonight have more in common with Mr. Lincoln than just party affiliation. Better that we grasp a common vision than simply wear the cloak. Even our President pretends to be a conservative when it suits him. We must be more than that.

I know… it’s not easy. Imagine being point man for the National Rifle Association, preserving the right to keep and bear arms. I ran for office, I was elected, and now I serve… as a moving target for pundits who’ve called me everything from “ridiculous” and “duped” to a “brain-injured, senile and crazy old man.”

Maybe that comes with the territory. But as I have stood in the crosshairs of those who aim at Second Amendment freedom, I have realized that guns are not the only issue, and I am not the only target. It is much, much bigger than that – which is what I want to talk to you about today.

I have come to realize that a cultural war is raging across our land… storming our values, assaulting our freedoms, killing our self-confidence in who we are and what we believe.

How many of you own a gun? A show of hands maybe? How many own two or more guns? Thank you. I wonder – how many of you own guns but chose not to raise your hand? How many of you considered revealing your conviction about a constitutional right, but then thought better of it?

Then you are a victim of the cultural war. You are a casualty of the cultural warfare being waged against traditional American freedom of beliefs and ideas. Now maybe you don’t care one way or the other about owning a gun. But I could’ve asked for a show of hands of Pentecostal Christians, or pro-lifers, or right-to-workers, or Promise Keepers, or school voucher-ers, and the result would be the same. What if the same question were asked at your PTA meeting? Would you raise your hand if Dan Rather were in the back of the room with a film crew?

See? You have been assaulted and robbed of the courage of your convictions. Your pride in who you are and what you believe, has been ridiculed, ransacked and plundered. It may be a war without bullets or bloodshed, but with just as much liberty lost. You and your country are less free.

And you are not inconsequential people! You in this room, whom many would say are among the most powerful people on earth, you are shamed into silence! Because you choose to own guns – affirmed by no less than the Bill of Rights. But you embrace a view at odds with the cultural warlords. If that is the outcome of cultural war, and you are victims, I can only ask the gravely obvious question: What’ll become of the right itself? Or other rights not deemed acceptable by the thought police? What other truth in your heart will you disavow with your hand?

I remember when European Jews feared to admit their faith. The Nazis forced them to wear yellow stars as identity badges. It worked. So – what color star will the pin on gun owners’ chests? How will the self-styled elite tag us? There may not be a Gestapo officer on every street corner, but the influence on our culture is just as pervasive.

Now, I am not really here to talk about the Second Amendment of the NRA, but the gun issue clearly brings into focus the warfare that’s going on.

Rank-and-file Americans wake up every morning, increasingly bewildered and confused at why their views make them lesser citizens. After enough
breakfast-table TV hyping tattooed sex-slaves on the next Rikki Lake, enough gun-glutted movies and tabloid shows, enough revisionist history books and prime-time ridicule of religion, enough of the TV anchor who cocks her head, clucks her tongue and sighs about guns causing crime and finally the message gets through: Heaven help the God-fearing, law-abiding, Caucasian, middle class, Protestant, or-even worse- admitted heterosexual, gun-owning or-even worse-NRA-card-carrying, average working stiff, or-even worse-male working stiff, because not only don’t you count, you’re a downright obstacle to social progress. Your tax dollars may be just as delightfully green as you hand them over, but your voice deserves a lower decibel level, your opinion is less enlightened, your media access is insignificant. And frankly, mister, you need to wake up, wise up and learn a little something about your new America… and until you do, would you mind shutting up?

That’s why you didn’t raise your hand. That’s how cultural war works. And you are losing.

That’s what happens when a generation of media, educators, entertainers and politicians, led by a willing president, decide the America they were born into isn’t good enough any more. So they contrive to change it through the cultural warfare of class distinction. Ask the Romans if powerful nations have ever fallen as a result of cultural division. There are ruins around the world that were once the smug centers of small-minded, arrogant elitism. It appears that rather than evaporate in the flash of a split atom, we may succumb to a divided culture.

Although my years are long, I was not on hand to help pen the Bill of Rights. And popular assumptions aside, the same goes for the Ten Commandments. Yet as an American and as a man who believes in God’s almighty presence, I treasure both.

The Constitution was handed down to guide us by a bunch of wise old dead white guys who invented our country. Now some flinch when I say that. Why? It’s true… they were white guys. So were most of the guys that died in Lincoln’s name opposing slavery in the 1860s. So why should I be ashamed of white guys? Why is “Hispanic pride” or “black pride” a good thing, while “white pride” conjures shaved heads and white hoods? Why was the Million Man March on Washington celebrated as progress, while the Promise Keepers March on Washington was greeted with suspicion and ridicule? I’ll tell you why: Cultural warfare.

Now, Chuck Heston can get away with saying I’m proud of those wise old dead white guys because Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan know I fought in their cultural war. I was one of the first white soldiers in the civil rights movement, long before it was fashionable. In 1963 I marched on Washington with Dr. Martin Luther King to uphold the Bill of Rights. As vice-president of the NRA I am doing the same thing.

But you don’t see many other Hollywood luminaries speaking out on this, do you? It’s not because there aren’t any. It’s because they can’t afford the heat. They dare not speak up for fear of CNN or the IRS or SAG or ATF or NBC or even W-J-C. It saps the strength of our country when the personal price is simply too high to stand up for what you believe in. Today, speaking with the courage of your conviction can be so costly, the price of principle can be so high, that legislators won’t lead and citizens can’t follow, and so there is no army to fight back. That’s cultural warfare.

For instance: It’s plain that our Constitution guarantees law-abiding citizens the right to own a firearm. But if I stand up and say so, why is the media assault on me such a slashing, sinister brand of derision filled with hate?

Because Bill Clinton’s cultural warriors want a penitent cleansing of firearms, as if millions of lawful gun owners should genuflect in shame and seek absolution by surrendering their guns. That’s what is now literally underway in England and Australia. Lines of submissive citizens, threatened with imprisonment, are bitterly surrendering family heirlooms, guns that won their freedom, to the blast furnace. If that fact does not unsettle you, then you are already anesthetized, a ready victim of the cultural war.

You know that I stand first in line in defense for free speech. But those who speak against the perverted and profane should be given as much due as those who profit by it. You also know I welcome cultural diversity. But those who choose to live on the fringe should not tear apart the seams that secure the fabric of our society.

I’ve earned a fine and rewarding living in the motion picture industry, yet increasingly I find myself embarrassed by the dearth of conscience that drives the world’s most influential art form. And I am an example of what a lonely undertaking it can be.

Nobody opposed the obscene rapper Ice-T until I stood at Time-Warner’s stockholders meeting and was ridiculed by its president for wanting to take the floor to read Ice-T’s lyrics. Since I held several hundred shares of stock he had no choice. Though the media were barred, I read those lyrics to a stunned audience of average American people… shocked at lyrics that advocating killing cops, sexually abusing women, and raping the nieces of our Vice-President. The good guys won that time: Time-Warner fired Ice-T.

The gay and lesbian movement is another good example. Many homosexuals are hugely talented artists and executives… also dear friends. I don’t despise their lifestyle, though I don’t share it. As long as gay and lesbian Americans are as productive, law-abiding and private as the rest of us, I think America owes them absolute tolerance. It’s the right thing to do.

On the other hand, I find my blood pressure rising when Clinton’s cultural
shock troops participate in gay-rights fundraisers but boycott gun-rights
fundraisers… and then claim it’s time to place homosexual men in tents
with Boy Scouts, and suggest that sperm donor babies born into lesbian
relationships are somehow better served and more loved.

Such demands have nothing to do with equality. They’re about the currency of cultural war – money and votes – and the Clinton camp will let anyone in the tent if there’s a donkey on the hat, a check in the mail or some yen in the fortune cookie.

Mainstream America is counting on you to draw your sword and fight for them. These people have precious little time and resources to battle misguided Cinderella attitudes, the fringe propaganda of the homosexual coalition, the feminists who preach that it is a divine duty for women to hate men, blacks who raise a militant fist with one hand while they seek preference with the other, and all the New-Age apologists for juvenile crime, who see roving gangs as a means of youthful expression, sex as a means of adolescent merchandising, violence as a form of entertainment for impressionable minds, and gun bans as a means to Lord-knows-what. We have reached that point in time when our national social policy originates on Oprah. I say it’s time to pull the plug.

Americans should not have to go to war every morning for their values. They already go to war for their families. They fight to hold down a job, raise responsible kids, make their payments, keep gas in the car, put food on the table and clothes on their backs, and still save a little to live their final days in dignity. They prefer the America they built – where you could pray without feeling naïve, love without being kinky, sing without profanity, be white without feeling guilty, own a gun without shame, and raise your hand without apology. They are the critical masses who find themselves under siege and long for you to get some guts, stand on principle and lead them to victory in this cultural war.

Now if this all sounds a little Mosaic, the punchline of my sermon is as
elementary as the Golden Rule: In a cultural war, triumph belongs to those who arm themselves with pride in who they are and then do the right thing. Not the most expedient thing, not what’ll sell, not the politically correct thing, but the right thing.

And you know what? Everybody already knows what the right thing is. You and I and President Clinton, even Ice-T, we all know. It’s easy. You say wait a minute, you take a long look in the mirror, then into the eyes of your kids or grandkids, and you’ll know what’s right.

Don’t run for cover when the cultural cannons roar. Remember who you are and what you believe, and then raise you hand, stand up, and speak out. Don’t be shamed or startled into lockstep conformity by seemingly powerful people. The maintenance of a free nation is a long, slow, steady process. And it’s in your hands.

Yes, we can have rules and still have rebels – that’s democracy. But as
leaders you must do as Lincoln would do, confronted with the stench of
cultural war: Do what’s right. As Mr. Lincoln said, “With firmness in the
right, as God gives us to see the right, let us finish the work we are in…
and then we shall save our country.”

Defeat the criminals and their apologists, oust the biased and bigoted,
endure the undisciplined and unprincipled, but disavow the self-appointed
social engineers whose relentless arrogance fuels this vicious war against
so much we hold so dear. Do not yield, do not divide, do not call truce. Be fair, but fight back.

It’s the same blueprint our founding fathers left to guide us. Our enemies
see it as the senile prattle of an archaic society. I still honor it as the
United States Constitution, and that timeless document we call the Bill of
Rights.

Freedom is our fortune and honor is our saving grace.
Thank you.

—Charlton Heston

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227 Responses to “From the Department of “There You Go Again.””
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  1. 1 | March 16, 2010 19:37

    Get your stinkin paws off me, you damn dirty ape!


  2. 2 | March 16, 2010 19:40

    @ savage:

    Ha ha ha, one of the funniest scenes.


  3. 3 | March 16, 2010 19:42

    If you’ve never run across this speech before, you’re missing out on one of the best no-nonsense commentaries I’ve heard in decades. It’s a definite must read from thirteen years ago.


  4. coldwarrior
    4 | March 16, 2010 19:45

    ITS MADE OF PEOPLE!!!! PEEEEEPELLLLLL!!!!!


  5. coldwarrior
    5 | March 16, 2010 19:45

    @ Bunk X:

    am very familiar with it, excellence in oratory.


  6. rain of lead
    6 | March 16, 2010 19:45

    with the way things are going, this might be more true


  7. coldwarrior
    7 | March 16, 2010 19:49

    @ Bunk X:

    i believe it was republished in national review, back in the day.


  8. 8 | March 16, 2010 19:50

    Charleton Heston was one of the finest Americans that ever came out of Hollywood; how he sttod the liberalism is testement to his self-control. RIP, Chuck.

    Here are some pics of his basement. Way cool.


  9. 9 | March 16, 2010 19:51

    @ rain of lead:

    You never know.


  10. huckfunn
    10 | March 16, 2010 19:51

    What would Mr. Heston think about this? Obama Orders Army NOT to Fly Flag in Haiti


  11. chickadee
    11 | March 16, 2010 19:54

    huckfunn wrote:

    What would Mr. Heston think about this? Obama Orders Army NOT to Fly Flag in Haiti

    I guess Ayers is looking for some to stomp on.


  12. 12 | March 16, 2010 19:54

    @ huckfunn:

    OK the Haitians want us to take them over. Obama wants us to fly our flag. Anyone see a problem?


  13. chickadee
    13 | March 16, 2010 19:55

    Beautiful speech.


  14. 15 | March 16, 2010 19:58

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Bunk X:
    i believe it was republished in national review, back in the day.

    I don’t recall where I got it from, coulda been NR. I’ve kept it on file for years.


  15. 16 | March 16, 2010 20:03

    huckfunn wrote:

    What would Mr. Heston think about this? Obama Orders Army NOT to Fly Flag in Haiti

    He’d wrap his “cold, dead fingers” around Obama neck and give him a lesson on Americanism.


  16. huckfunn
    17 | March 16, 2010 20:03

    MacDuff wrote:

    Charleton Heston was one of the finest Americans that ever came out of Hollywood; how he sttod the liberalism is testement to his self-control. RIP, Chuck.
    Here are some pics of his basement. Way cool.

    WOW! I could do some serious good with 1 B.A.R. He’s got 8 on 1 wall!


  17. 18 | March 16, 2010 20:04

    Bunk X wrote:

    If you’ve never run across this speech before, you’re missing out on one of the best no-nonsense commentaries I’ve heard in decades. It’s a definite must read from thirteen years ago.

    Is there a video of that speech available anywhere?


  18. 19 | March 16, 2010 20:06

    @ huckfunn:

    Fuck!


  19. m
    20 | March 16, 2010 20:09

    @ savage:

    It’s ridiculous.

    Never mind that all the other nations have their flags proudly flying above their military relief installations in Haiti. Even Croatia has its coat of arms flying outside its base. Yet not the U.S. Army. No U.S. flag flies anywhere despite the fact that we are far and away the largest force and have supplied the most relief supplies and money to the earthquake recovery effort.

    That man hates America.


  20. 21 | March 16, 2010 20:10

    @ m:

    This is more confirmation of Obama’s 3rd World mentality.


  21. wolfie
    22 | March 16, 2010 20:13

    @ Bunk X:

    Great speech! Just great!


  22. huckfunn
    23 | March 16, 2010 20:15

    savage wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    Fuck!

    Oooohhhh, yeah!


  23. Ripley450
    24 | March 16, 2010 20:16

    Love Chuck Heston, the only man to currently grace my ‘fridge twice with his pic and kind notes.


  24. 25 | March 16, 2010 20:17

    MacDuff wrote:

    Bunk X wrote:
    If you’ve never run across this speech before, you’re missing out on one of the best no-nonsense commentaries I’ve heard in decades. It’s a definite must read from thirteen years ago.

    Is there a video of that speech available anywhere?

    I looked for it, but couldn’t find it. There are some other classics out there, though.


  25. 26 | March 16, 2010 20:20

    wolfie wrote:

    @ Bunk X:
    Great speech! Just great!

    Yeah, and it pisses me off a little that some folks jump to “Planet of the Apes” crap and think that Mr. Heston had an arsenal in his basement because of a stoopid email that circulated in 2008.


  26. m
    27 | March 16, 2010 20:20

    @ Rodan:

    He is such a prick.


  27. 28 | March 16, 2010 20:20

    @ m:

    I want that fuck handcuffed and perpwalked straight out of the White House directly to the goddamn docket. Then a life sentence in ADX Florence so I never have to see his mug ANYWHERE.


  28. Xeon
    29 | March 16, 2010 20:23

    @ savage:

    Or hear his voice, ugh!


  29. waldensianspirit
    30 | March 16, 2010 20:29

    @ MacDuff:
    The place absolutely shines!


  30. Ripley450
    31 | March 16, 2010 20:29

    avatar check, new hatchling

    fuck lgf, gave them a ration many times. wish I kept them


  31. 32 | March 16, 2010 20:29

    @ savage:

    Mr Hussein is a dangerous man. He’s our Mussolini/Mugabe/Chavez figure.


  32. 33 | March 16, 2010 20:32

    @ Ripley450:

    Full Launch ahead!

    Welcome aboard, it’s an honor 2 see you!


  33. wolfie
    34 | March 16, 2010 20:34

    @ Ripley450:

    Welcome! Good to see you! :D


  34. Ripley450
    35 | March 16, 2010 20:34

    TY – Where’s my trident II avatar? let’s try again

    oh and fuck Al Gore, twoofers and chemtrail nuts

    just so you know where I’m coming from


  35. 36 | March 16, 2010 20:35

    @ Ripley450:

    Welcome!


  36. 37 | March 16, 2010 20:38

    @ Ripley450:

    I see your avatar. Log off and log again.


  37. Buckeye Abroad
    38 | March 16, 2010 20:38

    Heaven help the God-fearing, law-abiding, Caucasian, middle class, Protestant, or-even worse- admitted heterosexual, gun-owning or-even worse-NRA-card-carrying, average working stiff, or-even worse-male working stiff, because not only don’t you count, you’re a downright obstacle to social progress.

    Hence the second part of my nic. Abroad.


  38. wolfie
    39 | March 16, 2010 20:40

    Rodan wrote:

    This is more confirmation of Obama’s 3rd World mentality

    He’s just thinking of his buddies, Hugo and Evo, who claimed we were out to conquer Haiti! He cares about their opinions. Ours? Not.


  39. song_and_dance_man
    40 | March 16, 2010 20:40

    Very good speech.


  40. MrPaulRevere
    41 | March 16, 2010 20:41

    @ MacDuff:
    Now THAT is cool, whoever’s basement it is.


  41. snork
    42 | March 16, 2010 20:42

    The genius of the swamp:

    1474 SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Mar 16, 2010 8:17:53pm

    re: #1470 WindUpBird

    You play as a GIRL in your twee fighting games! :D

    That just shows his extreme straightness. Straight guys all want to be women so they can have more boobs to play with.

    Yyyyyeah.


  42. song_and_dance_man
    43 | March 16, 2010 20:42

    @ MacDuff:

    Now those are some killer guns. I wonder if he shot them all.


  43. Ripley450
    44 | March 16, 2010 20:43

    Forgot to mention libtards, moonbats, Kos Kids, and anyone named Jeanine or Rosie


  44. snork
    45 | March 16, 2010 20:45

    High School is in session:

    1487 Dork_Fuklin Tue, Mar 16, 2010 8:21:50pm

    re: #1485 windsagio

    dude, I woudln’t want to speculate on what’s caused it but your tone and attitude in general has become far more toxic over the last few weeks

    .

    How so? I’m asking honestly, and I promise not to downding you.


  45. PrincessNatasha
    46 | March 16, 2010 20:46

    m wrote:

    That man parasite hates America.

    Sorry, just couldn’t resist.


  46. 47 | March 16, 2010 20:46

    Ripley450 wrote:

    avatar check, new hatchling
    fuck lgf, gave them a ration many times. wish I kept them

    We don’t have hatchlings here. You are a sentient human.


  47. 48 | March 16, 2010 20:48

    @ PrincessNatasha:

    @ wolfie:

    He wants acceptance from his 3rd World buddies. He’s one of them.


  48. 49 | March 16, 2010 20:48

    MrPaulRevere wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    Now THAT is cool, whoever’s basement it is.

    I posted the snopes link upthread. Here it is again, unmasked.
    http://www.snopes.com/photos/architecture/gunvault.asp


  49. huckfunn
    50 | March 16, 2010 20:49

    From the weird department. Army drops bayonets, busts abs in training revamp.
    I went thru basic in Fort Polk in 1972 and never saw a bayonet and never had any bayonet training. Now here’s the weird part of that article:

    “Most of these soldiers have never been in a fistfight or any kind of a physical confrontation. They are stunned when they get smacked in the face,” said Capt. Scott Sewell, overseeing almost 190 trainees in their third week of training. “We are trying to get them to act, to think like warriors.”


  50. m
    51 | March 16, 2010 20:49

    @ PrincessNatasha:

    Thanks. Fitting.


  51. MrPaulRevere
    52 | March 16, 2010 20:53

    @ Bunk X:
    I saw, thanks for the link, I’m a stickler for accuracy too.


  52. m
    53 | March 16, 2010 20:53

    Ok, I fess up. It’s my basement.


  53. 54 | March 16, 2010 20:56

    MrPaulRevere wrote:

    @ Bunk X:
    I saw, thanks for the link, I’m a stickler for accuracy too.

    I’m in a pissy mood tonight. Where the fuck is Walter.


  54. 55 | March 16, 2010 20:57

    m wrote:

    Ok, I fess up. It’s my basement.

    But it’s my stash. Help yourself.


  55. MrPaulRevere
    56 | March 16, 2010 20:58

    @ Bunk X:

    I’m in a pissy mood tonight. Where the fuck is Walter.

    He’s staring at the ceiling, trying to figure out what he believes in.


  56. snork
    57 | March 16, 2010 20:59

    m wrote:

    Ok, I fess up. It’s my basement.

    Nope. It’s one of my mancaves. The good stuff is in #3.


  57. snork
    58 | March 16, 2010 21:00

    Bunk X wrote:

    I’m in a pissy mood tonight. Where the fuck is Walter.

    Dunno, but Jimwhistle is at the WWTP.


  58. MrPaulRevere
    59 | March 16, 2010 21:03

    Related to nothing in particular, I was listening to local (Kansas City) talk radio today and several callers were hinting at rebellion, using very careful language of course. One caller said he was in the military and a lot of them are “talking”. The natives are very restless indeed.


  59. m
    60 | March 16, 2010 21:05

    @ snork:

    You might be right. I don’t see my Earnhardt poster.

    Carry on!
    ;-)


  60. m
    61 | March 16, 2010 21:06

    @ snork:

    I’m askeered to ask.


  61. Ma Sands
    62 | March 16, 2010 21:06

    Okay, so’s I can be on topic, first here is a video of Charlton Heston that one of my FB friends posted the other day….. : )

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrnOFMk8NPM


    Then, here’s something pretty neat –the sweet Christian lady, Pat Anderson, who is running for MN State Auditor, has, in the Iditerod, her younger brother……3 have come across in finish line already, in Nome, and her brother is due in next…..he’ll arrive in just about an hour, and she has just posted this link to the Nome webcam which is trained on the finish line! : )

    http://www.discoverak.com/nome_webcam.htm


  62. MrPaulRevere
    63 | March 16, 2010 21:06

    Is this a flounce, or a semi-flounce? I report, you decide: Northpaw3/16/2010 8:46:52 pm PDT

    * -3
    * down
    * up
    * report

    Well, sigh, I checked in here after a long hiatus, and sure enough it’s gag-worthy. I’m a very scientific person but being an AGW skeptic is pretty much where I’ve been for the last 20+ years. Why? Because the proof isn’t there, but the politics sure are. Anyway, I liked this blog once. Oh, one more thing. Anyone who is convinced that the planet is warming catastrophically is wrong, and not just wrong, but so wrong that they have nothing to offer me intellectually. It’s really just that simple. Hey, slag me now, whatever.


  63. m
    64 | March 16, 2010 21:08

    @ MrPaulRevere:

    In Charles’ retelling it will be a “death threat”.


  64. snork
    65 | March 16, 2010 21:10

    m wrote:

    @ MrPaulRevere:
    In Charles’ retelling it will be a “death threat”.

    He did say the place was gag-worthy.


  65. 66 | March 16, 2010 21:11

    @ snork:

    It’s one of my mancaves.

    Sheesh! Spoken like a metrosexual. Hope yer cave is well stocked with wine spritzers and panty liners.

    /


  66. MrPaulRevere
    67 | March 16, 2010 21:11

    Thanks for the Heston video Ma Sands. Wisdom for the ages.


  67. 68 | March 16, 2010 21:11

    @ MrPaulRevere:

    That comment doesn’t even exist, I checked.


  68. waldensianspirit
    69 | March 16, 2010 21:11

    @ m:
    Wonder if he’ll write “unfuckingbelievable!” as for me.


  69. MrPaulRevere
    70 | March 16, 2010 21:13

    @ savage:
    It may have been deleted already: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/showc/8202197


  70. Possum
    71 | March 16, 2010 21:14

    @ savage:

    It is on the “Flogging the Scientists” thread post 105


  71. 72 | March 16, 2010 21:15

    @ MrPaulRevere:

    Ok, I found it. :)


  72. Beltfed
    73 | March 16, 2010 21:15

    huckfunn @ 50:

    .Marine Corps still trains with bayonet and hand to hand combat, It’s basic training for every Marine.


  73. Macker
    74 | March 16, 2010 21:18

    Now here’s a guy I miss. Charlton Heston.


  74. MrPaulRevere
    75 | March 16, 2010 21:20

    The government media complex, good work if you can find it:George Stephanopoulos’ $6.3 Million Georgetown Mansion Under Contract (PHOTOS) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/16/george-stephanopoulos-63_n_501680.html


  75. Overlook
    76 | March 16, 2010 21:23

    @ Macker:

    A
    r
    e

    y
    o
    u

    u
    n
    w
    e
    l
    l


  76. 77 | March 16, 2010 21:24

    Broad-band bombing out tonite.

    TTFN


  77. MrPaulRevere
    78 | March 16, 2010 21:24

    Ever read Thomas Friedman, the New York Times Red China loving columnist? Check out his house http://raynoreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/friedmanshouse.jpg


  78. Rides A Pale Horse
    79 | March 16, 2010 21:24

    Just my opinion but the following excerpt from a speech Mr. Heston made in February 1997 is one of the most important statements ever made regarding the Second Amendment:

    “I say that the Second Amendment is, in order of importance, the first amendment.” “It is America’s First Freedom, the one right that protects all the others.” “Among freedom of speech, of the press, of religion, of assembly, of redress of grievances, it is the first among equals.” “It alone offers the absolute capacity to live without fear.” “The right to keep and bear arms is the one right that allows ‘rights’ to exist at all.”

    “Either you believe that, or you don’t, and you must decide.”


  79. waldensianspirit
    80 | March 16, 2010 21:24

    This is Al Gore on his next reincarnation cycle. He’s getting plenty of practice this time around.


  80. 81 | March 16, 2010 21:26

    @ Ma Sands:
    Excellent links.


  81. Beltfed
    82 | March 16, 2010 21:26

    MrPaulRevere @ 70:

    Still there,

    Karma: 193

    Northpaw

    Registered since: Feb 23, 2005 at 6:32 pm
    No. of comments posted: 483
    No. of links posted: 0


  82. snork
    83 | March 16, 2010 21:27

    @ savage:
    That comes right on the heels of this:

    104 ludwigvanquixote Tue, Mar 16, 2010 5:17:13pm

    Sometimes, trying to refrain from an “I told you so” is very, very difficult. Please forgive me for pointing a few things out and having some pride.

    Starting almost a year ago, I was called all manner of names for saying that the best science I knew predicts a sea level rise in the two meter range by the end of the century.

    I was called alarmist.

    I was called shrieking.

    I had my credentials questioned as a standard tactic.

    I had pearl clutching non-scientists who knew nothing of the field, boldly pronouncing that I could not possibly be a scientist for saying such “chicken little” things.

    And yet, what is it that the actual papers, that I draw my information from, say?

    Right now the consensus is seal level rises in the 2 meter range by the end of the century. Important thought – what does a six foot rise do to some place like NY and what does that do to America?

    If I am telling you science that you haven’t heard it is because I am an actual scientist who keeps up with the field. It takes a few months to even a year for things to filter through the MSM.

    It is also important to note the rank hypocrisy of the other side. The IPCC and the Sidall paper (with their low ball estimates, one for political reasons and the other for honest error) were held up as evidence that “it could not possibly be that bad” and taken as the word of G-d despite all of the other data and science that was pointed out.

    Right? I couldn’t possibly be a scientist because of this?

    And it is even more interesting to note that the deniers, who used to hold Sidall and the low ball predictions up as some sort of evidence for their side, now see the retraction of Sidall as evidence that the science is wrong. Nope, Sidall’s paper was brought in line with the rest of the evidence. Things are much worse than it says. That is evidence that AGW is worse and not better. So it is interesting that the paper that these folks championed as questioning AGW, getting retracted suddenly becomes just some paper that was retracted (as if they were not trumpeting it as proof a few months ago) suddenly become by dint of retraction more “evidence” for their unreasoning side.

    So a paper that seems to question AGW by being lowball is evidence until it is retracted as wrong – and then the retraction itself makes all of science wrong.

    Either there’s more than one Ludwig, or he’s a lying sack of shit (or both). He said 200 feet. Not six feet, 200. Tiny difference. Also, the IPCC said 7 to 23 inches. 23 inches isn’t 6 feet. So how is this “consensus”?

    ‘Cuz the story it is a-changing…


  83. Sylvester T Cat
    84 | March 16, 2010 21:28

    @ Ripley450:
    Welcome!
    Fine avatar!


  84. Overlook
    85 | March 16, 2010 21:31

    @ snork:

    But how can he say “I told you so” about predictions? Even corrected predictions?


  85. Overlook
    86 | March 16, 2010 21:33

    @ Overlook:

    It should be: “I will have told you so.”
    Or, after the event: “Burble burble blub blub.”


  86. waldensianspirit
    87 | March 16, 2010 21:33

    @ Overlook:
    Because he is ludwigvanquixote the Chicken Little


  87. Ma Sands
    88 | March 16, 2010 21:33

    A plea:

    Got an e-mail today, from Keith Ellison. He’s holding a phone town hall, on Thursday of this week.

    Anyone here know anyone in his district who would be willing to take him on?

    I myself, though in his district, haven’t that kind of expertise…..nor hope that it could help anything….. ):

    Health Care Reform Telephone Town Hall
    Thursday, March 18th from 7-8 PM

    From: Congressman Keith Ellison
    Subject: Health Care Reform Telephone Town Hall – Thursday at 7 PM

    Dear Neighbor:

    You may have heard that Congress is on the verge of passing historic reforms to fix our broken health care system. The House and Senate have both passed bills that will lower costs, protect people who have insurance, and provide coverage for the millions who don’t. The next step is to get these basic reforms signed into law and build on that progress. As your Representative, I want to hear from you before Congress votes on health care reform legislation in the coming days.

    I want to invite you to join me for a conversation about the health care reform legislation. I will hold a Telephone Town Hall on Thursday, March 18th from 7 to 8 PM. I will share a summary of what’s in the legislation and answer whatever questions you may have. I am here to listen to you, so make your voice heard and join the call.

    Please click here to sign up to participate in the Telephone Town Hall.

    http://ellison.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=434:sign-up-for-our-health-care-telephone-town-hall-this-thursday&catid=36:keiths-blog&Itemid=44&utm_source=DialogMail&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fellison.house.gov%2findex.php%3foption%3dcom_content%26view%3darticle%26id%3d434%3asign-up-for-our-health-care-telephone-town-hall-this-thursday%26catid%3d36%3akeiths-blog%26Itemid%3d44&utm_content=mhsands%40gmail.com&utm_campaign=Health+Care+Reform+Telephone+Town+Hall+-+Thursday+at+7+PM


  88. MrPaulRevere
    89 | March 16, 2010 21:36

    @ Beltfed:
    And the stooge brigade shows up behind him, just as he predicted.


  89. MrPaulRevere
    90 | March 16, 2010 21:37

    @ Ma Sands:
    A ‘telephone town hall’. How courageous.


  90. Beltfed
    91 | March 16, 2010 21:47

    snork @ 83:

    Right now the consensus is seal level rises in the 2 meter range by the end of the century.

    Kind of high for a seal to rise. lol


  91. 92 | March 16, 2010 21:48

    @ snork:

    Right now the consensus is seal level rises in the 2 meter range by the end of the century.

    Seal levels are rising. Okay, that’s a typo but it’s funny. Chuck is on vacation, but before he left, he smacked Walter with eggs.

    2 Charles3/12/2010 2:50:41 pm PST

    * 16
    * down
    * up
    * report

    This is for you, Walter.

    Please note that I said over and over that it was a mistake to make assumptions about this code. Now you have egg on your face, because the code was NEVER USED to produce actual temperature reconstructions — it was for purposes of calibration.

    This is what happens when you fall for the bullshit. Whoever assembled this collection of emails and code carefully designed it to trick gullible people, and you fell for it.

    Then, several posts later, prostrate and wagging his tail, Ludwank licks his master’s paw:

    1 LudwigVanQuixote3/13/2010 6:13:40 pm PST

    * 12
    * down
    * up
    * report

    Charles thank you so much! Lol, this is perfectly timed with the last thread comments!


  92. 93 | March 16, 2010 21:50

    Overlook wrote:

    @ Overlook:
    It should be: “I will have told you so.”
    Or, after the event: “Burble burble blub blub.”

    I think that’s the soundtrack to Titanic II.


  93. Beltfed
    94 | March 16, 2010 21:50

    Bunk X @ 92:

    Then, several posts later, prostrate and wagging his tail, Ludwank licks his master’s paw:

    Are you sure about that. lol


  94. The Osprey
    95 | March 16, 2010 21:51

    Tamar Yonah from Israel National Radio has Heston’s voice as Moses on the intro to her podcast

    “THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD OF ISRAEL…LET MY PEOPLE GO!”

    I need to watch the 10 Commandments again. It’s been years since I’ve seen it.


  95. snork
    96 | March 16, 2010 21:57

    @ Bunk X:
    Does either dweeb know what a calibration is?


  96. snork
    97 | March 16, 2010 21:57

    @ Bunk X:
    Oh, and 16 and 12 updings respectively. Yeesh.


  97. 98 | March 16, 2010 21:58

    Beltfed wrote:

    Bunk X @ 92:
    Then, several posts later, prostrate and wagging his tail, Ludwank licks his master’s paw:
    Are you sure about that. lol

    I was being polite. Happy subservient puppies who want to play do so by putting their heads down and their wagging tails in the air.


  98. snork
    99 | March 16, 2010 21:58

    Beltfed wrote:

    Bunk X @ 92:
    Then, several posts later, prostrate and wagging his tail, Ludwank licks his master’s paw:

    Are you sure about that. lol

    Sniffs his butt?


  99. pat
    100 | March 16, 2010 21:59

    @ Bunk X:
    What a bunch of nonsense. let me tell you what CJ is saying. The alterations in the code, which are alterations in the actual thermometer readings, merely are directed at the calibrations of the instruments measuring the temperature, rather than the temperature. The difference is nonexistent down-stream. Insanity!!Pure insanity. I cannot describe how insane this is. It is like saying that it is not raining outside because I have an umbrella.


  100. snork
    101 | March 16, 2010 22:01

    @ pat:
    I think the word he was fishing for is homogenization.


  101. 102 | March 16, 2010 22:02

    snork wrote:

    Sniffs his butt?

    LGF2010.


  102. buzzsawmonkey
    103 | March 16, 2010 22:03

    Not a single physicist of my father’s generation/acquaintance—from Fermi, Teller, and Feynman on down—would have fallen for the arrogant stupidity of “man-made global warming.”

    Not a single one.


  103. Bluebird
    104 | March 16, 2010 22:04

    @ pat:

    And that, Pat, is why you were stealth banned. I remember your posts there – you were dangerous to his new belief system. I’m glad you’re here. :)


  104. pat
    105 | March 16, 2010 22:05

    CJ ought to homogenize his life. After his wife took the house, van, furniture, the Gibson and left him with the bike, he should have got a clue. Instead he pretends he likes to bike.


  105. 106 | March 16, 2010 22:05

    snork wrote:

    @ Bunk X:
    Does either dweeb know what a calibration is?

    What is the sound of one clam humping?


  106. Macker
    107 | March 16, 2010 22:05

    @ Overlook:

    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, Over?

    NEWS! The Mrs. went to the Tea Party in Scottsdale this afternoon. Here are her photos!


  107. Bluebird
    108 | March 16, 2010 22:06

    @ pat:

    Well, he’s not fooling anyone!! LOL!!


  108. snork
    109 | March 16, 2010 22:08

    And FWIW, Chunkles is completely full of shite. Harry’s “very artificial correction” comment, in it’s entirety, is:

    ***** APPLIES A VERY ARTIFICIAL CORRECTION FOR DECLINE*********

    The “decline” has everything to do with reconstructions and nothing to do with “calibration”, whatever that’s supposed to be.


  109. snork
    110 | March 16, 2010 22:10

    @ Bunk X:
    Sniffing order?


  110. pat
    111 | March 16, 2010 22:11

    @ Bluebird:
    I hope not. I do note that comments there are down to 20 commenters or so, as I can determine from checking into here on occasion. He is spouting dangerous crap. Delusional. I think that he believes that ObamaCare means that he gets the Van and Gibson back.


  111. MrPaulRevere
    112 | March 16, 2010 22:11

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    BSM, I read your posts earlier today on why the Jewish community trends toward the Democratic party. Some of it I knew already, but as usual I learned something new, the historical context of it all in particular.


  112. snork
    113 | March 16, 2010 22:12

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Not a single physicist of my father’s generation/acquaintance—from Fermi, Teller, and Feynman on down—would have fallen for the arrogant stupidity of “man-made global warming.”
    Not a single one.

    Feynman in particular would be horrified. His “cargo cult” speech at Caltech in 1964 should be re-read every few months. It’s that good, and you’d swear he was talking about this bunch.


  113. 114 | March 16, 2010 22:12

    snork wrote:

    @ Bunk X:
    Oh, and 16 and 12 updings respectively. Yeesh.

    If you add the digits 1+6 and 1+2, and add the sum of 16+12 you get 38. Divide that by the two houses of congress and you get BAM! 19! It’s the number of the Farrakhan as was discussed the other night.


  114. MrPaulRevere
    115 | March 16, 2010 22:15

    @ Macker:
    My personal favorite: http://mackers-world.com/index.php/gallery/image_full/692/


  115. snork
    116 | March 16, 2010 22:15

    Bunk X wrote:

    snork wrote:
    @ Bunk X:
    Does either dweeb know what a calibration is?

    What is the sound of one clam humping?

    Oh, I see. A calibration is a Californian party. Break out the water and fruit!

    ~~~Cal-a-brate good times. Come on!~~~


  116. pat
    117 | March 16, 2010 22:15

    In honor of a nonexistent, but wishfully desired, Muslim Holiday, I will soon serve roast pork, with an onion, shitake mushroom and Marsala sauce. My kitchen will be declared the 432nd most sacred spot in Islam. Right after the Univ of Minnesota Foot Bath.


  117. Sylvester T Cat
    118 | March 16, 2010 22:17

    @ Macker:
    Great photos!


  118. 119 | March 16, 2010 22:17

    @ Macker:
    Saw you pissed off the newest addition to the Blogmocracy blogroll today. TEST!


  119. 120 | March 16, 2010 22:20

    snork wrote:

    @ Bunk X:
    Sniffing order?

    Hard to tell as the major commenters any more are all bitches.


  120. Bluebird
    121 | March 16, 2010 22:21

    @ pat:

    Oh, he’s fooling all those idiots with his bizarre interpretation of reality. I meant about the bike riding – maybe if he pretends to like riding the bike a little more, he can shed some of the flab.


  121. 122 | March 16, 2010 22:23

    @ MrPaulRevere:
    I’ve wondered the same thing, axed W-O-G the same. Got a link to Buzz’ take?


  122. snork
    123 | March 16, 2010 22:24

    Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest

    Josh Gerstein over at Politico sent Threat Level his piece underscoring once again President Barack Obama is not the civil-liberties knight in shining armor many were expecting.

    Gerstein posts a televised interview of Obama and John Walsh of America’s Most Wanted. The nation’s chief executive extols the virtues of mandatory DNA testing of Americans upon arrest, even absent charges or a conviction. Obama said, “It’s the right thing to do” to “tighten the grip around folks” who commit crime.

    Hey constitutional scholar: you haven’t committed a crime until you’ve been charged and convicted.


  123. MrPaulRevere
    124 | March 16, 2010 22:24

    @ Bunk X:
    Hang on…


  124. 125 | March 16, 2010 22:27

    snork wrote:

    Bunk X wrote:
    snork wrote:

    Oh, I see. A calibration is a Californian party. Break out the water and fruit!
    ~~~Cal-a-brate good times. Come on!~~~

    Outta line, dude. We had a housewarming party with a couple of bangers and their cholas making sure the vietnamese didn’t steal the keg. Really.


  125. Beltfed
    127 | March 16, 2010 22:29

    Bunk X @ 98:
    snork @ 99:

    And no friendly belly rub in return.


  126. 128 | March 16, 2010 22:31

    pat wrote:

    In honor of a nonexistent, but wishfully desired, Muslim Holiday, I will soon serve roast pork, with an onion, shitake mushroom and Marsala sauce. My kitchen will be declared the 432nd most sacred spot in Islam. Right after the Univ of Minnesota Foot Bath.

    On St. Pat’s day?! Blasphemy.


  127. garycooper
    129 | March 16, 2010 22:34

    @ Bunk X:

    Charles is Ludwig.
    Ludwig is Charles.


  128. garycooper
    130 | March 16, 2010 22:37

    Bunk X wrote:

    snork wrote:
    @ Bunk X:
    Does either dweeb know what a calibration is?
    What is the sound of one clam humping?

    “Squish-squish-squish”


  129. Beltfed
    131 | March 16, 2010 22:39

    And now some late entertaining from The Roxy Lounge, Houston TX.

    Live Pole Dancing.

    Clean.


  130. 132 | March 16, 2010 22:39

    “We have reached that point in time when our national social policy originates on Oprah. I say it’s time to pull the plug.”

    Why is my country listening to Moore and Penn and Hanks and Sarandon and Whoopie and Gerafallo. Shit for brains, all of them.


  131. Da_Beerfreak
    133 | March 16, 2010 22:40

    @ garycooper:
    Both are Climate Troofers. :mrgreen:


  132. Macker
    134 | March 16, 2010 22:40

    Bunk X wrote:

    @ Macker:
    Saw you pissed off the newest addition to the Blogmocracy blogroll today. TEST!

    Why, because I mention I missed Charlton Heston?


  133. buzzsawmonkey
    135 | March 16, 2010 22:42

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Both are Climate Troofers.

    A Troofer Twofer!


  134. Da_Beerfreak
    136 | March 16, 2010 22:45

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Darn! I wish I had thought of that! “Troofer Twofer” :lol:


  135. 137 | March 16, 2010 22:47

    MrPaulRevere wrote:

    @ Bunk X:
    http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2010/03/16/we-the-people-2/#comment-302872

    Thanks. It still doesn’t answer the question for me, though. On the eve of St. Patrick’s day, there were many other groups of people that emigrated to America in the early years of this country’s history, and even more recently,who were every bit as oppressed as the Jewish people, and I honestly don’t understand the middle eastern concept of taking umbrage forever.


  136. Beltfed
    138 | March 16, 2010 22:49

    garycooper ! 130:

    “Squish-squish-squish”

    That’s clam clapping noise, lol


  137. pat
    139 | March 16, 2010 22:49

    @ Bunk X:
    They are primitive pigs.


  138. 140 | March 16, 2010 22:51

    @ Macker:
    =)


  139. 141 | March 16, 2010 22:52

    pat wrote:

    @ Bunk X:
    They are primitive pigs.

    ???


  140. pat
    142 | March 16, 2010 22:55

    @ Bunk X:
    The concept of taking umbrage forever. It is because they have nothing else other than fake pride, crime, and pillage. Muslims are to religion what nails are to tires.


  141. Beltfed
    143 | March 16, 2010 22:59

    Macker @ 134:

    Poking Irish Rose with your Sheleighly ?

    Macker
    March 16, 2010 at 4:50 am | #19
    Reply | Quote

    Test.

    Wild Irish Rose
    March 16, 2010 at 1:12 pm | #20
    Reply | Quote

    Test all you like, you’re still spam.


  142. 144 | March 16, 2010 23:07

    pat wrote:

    @ Bunk X:
    The concept of taking umbrage forever. It is because they have nothing else other than fake pride, crime, and pillage. Muslims are to religion what nails are to tires.

    Not all muslims practice the never-ending chip on the shoulder mentality, and neither do Jews, Irish, Scots, Armenians, Blacks, Germans, Italians, Greeks nor American Indians.

    It seems to me that the folks whose ancestry is tied more to tribal/clan loyalty tend to take minor affronts to be an attack on the entire nationality, religion, race, or tribe, rather than to accept and deal with minor insults and transgressions as what they are.


  143. Macker
    145 | March 16, 2010 23:12

    @ Beltfed:

    See, it finally had the nads to post something I wrote to it.


  144. 146 | March 16, 2010 23:16

    Macker wrote:

    @ Beltfed:
    See, it finally had the nads to post something I wrote to it.

    TEST! LOL!


  145. Beltfed
    147 | March 16, 2010 23:17

    Macker @ 145:

    She was busy with “sweetie”.


  146. Macker
    148 | March 16, 2010 23:32

    Оба́ма: The Great Reneger!


  147. Overlook
    149 | March 16, 2010 23:42

    @ Macker:

    I noticed that your avatar was sideways. Made a typographical joke.
    Charlton Heston is a hero.
    As a general rule, I am never pissed off.


  148. 150 | March 16, 2010 23:53

    @ Macker:

    HA HA HA! Reneger! Sounds like N_____!
    And sung in good ol’ boy CW style!

    /no too cool………..


  149. 151 | March 16, 2010 23:54

    Overlook wrote:

    As a general rule, I am never pissed off.

    Being pissed off happens, but it’s transient for most folks.


  150. 152 | March 17, 2010 00:21

    Happy St. Patrick’s Day!


  151. 153 | March 17, 2010 00:35

    @ MacDuff:

    That is the dream. The only thing to add are edged weapons…


  152. BatGuano
    154 | March 17, 2010 01:42

    Happy St. Patrick’s Day (and my late Dad’s birthday)!


  153. mjazz
    155 | March 17, 2010 02:05

    US Mobilizing For War With Iran
    The United States is shipping hundreds of ‘bunker-buster’ bombs from California to the island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean. Included in the cargo are 195 smart, guided, Blu-110 bombs and 192 2000lb Blu-117 bombs.
    Would that be proportionate though/


  154. mawskrat
    156 | March 17, 2010 02:41

    @ mjazz:

    works for me


  155. BatGuano
    157 | March 17, 2010 02:42

    mjazz wrote:
    Would that be proportionate though/

    I would hope it would would be wholly disproportionate.


  156. goddessoftheclassroom
    158 | March 17, 2010 02:56

    Good morning, y’all. Happy St. Patrick’s Day!


  157. BatGuano
    159 | March 17, 2010 02:57

    @ goddessoftheclassroom:

    Good morning, Goddess!


  158. goddessoftheclassroom
    160 | March 17, 2010 03:00

    @ BatGuano:
    {Bat Guano}

    Our school’s swimming and diving team is in the State finals today, so we’re supposed to wear school colors–which are not green.


  159. BatGuano
    161 | March 17, 2010 03:03

    @ goddessoftheclassroom:

    I wish good luck to your team. My school colors were green and gold.


  160. RIX
    162 | March 17, 2010 03:14

    Good morning everybody & Happy St. Patricks Day!


  161. goddessoftheclassroom
    163 | March 17, 2010 03:15

    @ RIX:
    {RIX}


  162. BatGuano
    164 | March 17, 2010 03:15

    @ RIX:

    Yo, Rix. Happy St. Patrick’s day!


  163. RIX
    165 | March 17, 2010 03:21

    @ goddessoftheclassroom:
    @ BatGuano:
    Yo, Rix. Happy St. Patrick’s day!

    How is everybody this morning?


  164. 166 | March 17, 2010 03:22

    goddessoftheclassroom wrote:

    @ RIX:
    {RIX}

    Good morning beautiful… And good morning RIX…


  165. BatGuano
    167 | March 17, 2010 03:27

    @ RIX:

    I’m doing fine. I’ve worked six consecutive days but now I have two days off.I’m also a little concerned that we have a Marxist president who is ashamed of the American flag. But that’s just me. How you?


  166. RIX
    168 | March 17, 2010 03:29

    Monday I had an opportunity to get the answer to one of lifes eternal questions.
    I was driving South on Interstate 65 toward Indianapolis.
    It is a good stretch of road , but not much to see, so you start to contemplate your navel etc.
    At about Wolcott Ind I saw a small critter walking on the right sholder. I got closer & realised that it was a chicken , a future KFC bucket walking on the highway! I swerved to miss him as did the driver behind me.
    I blew it! I could have pulled over , ran back & asked , “Chicken, why are you crossing the road”
    story.


  167. 169 | March 17, 2010 03:30

    BatGuano wrote:

    I’m also a little concerned that we have a Marxist president who is ashamed of the American flag. But that’s just me. How you?

    Yea, that aint just you…


  168. 170 | March 17, 2010 03:31

    RIX wrote:

    I blew it! I could have pulled over , ran back

    And got a free dinner…


  169. RIX
    171 | March 17, 2010 03:33
    BatGuano wrote:

    @ RIX:
    I’m doing fine. I’ve worked six consecutive days but now I have two days off.I’m also a little concerned that we have a Marxist president who is ashamed of the American flag. But that’s just me. How you?

    I’m good & glad that you finally have some time off.
    I have concluded the same thing about BHO, he is a Marxist.
    This is not out of some hatred for him(although, I don’t like him) it is just impossible now
    to avoid.


  170. RIX
    172 | March 17, 2010 03:36

    @ doriangrey:
    And got a free dinner…

    And, mighty tasty. It was just really bizzare to see a chicken walking along a major Interstate.
    Oh & good morning Dorian.


  171. goddessoftheclassroom
    173 | March 17, 2010 03:37

    @ BatGuano:

    Another possibility, just as shameful: they’re AFRAID to fly the American flag in case it becomes a target.


  172. goddessoftheclassroom
    174 | March 17, 2010 03:37

    @ doriangrey:
    {doriangrey}!


  173. BatGuano
    175 | March 17, 2010 03:38

    @ RIX:
    You could have also asked ,”which came first, the chicken or the egg”.


  174. goddessoftheclassroom
    176 | March 17, 2010 03:40

    Got to get ready for the Visigoths…have a great day, y’all!


  175. 177 | March 17, 2010 03:40

    RIX wrote:

    BatGuano wrote:
    @ RIX:
    I’m doing fine. I’ve worked six consecutive days but now I have two days off.I’m also a little concerned that we have a Marxist president who is ashamed of the American flag. But that’s just me. How you?

    I’m good & glad that you finally have some time off.
    I have concluded the same thing about BHO, he is a Marxist.
    This is not out of some hatred for him(although, I don’t like him) it is just impossible now
    to avoid.

    Marxists like Obama always view themselves as more human, more intelligent, more compassionate than the rest of us, and because of that they are always more than willing to use deceit and force to make those of us who are less human, less intelligent and less compassionate do those things which they believe are in everyone’s best interests.


  176. bluliner10
    178 | March 17, 2010 03:45

    Happy St Patrick’s day back there, time for me to drink some beers…get ready for the movers tomorrow…


  177. RIX
    179 | March 17, 2010 03:46

    @ doriangrey:
    Marxists like Obama always view themselves as more human, more intelligent, more compassionate than the rest of us

    Yup, that’s a historical fact & they don’t mind mass murder either.
    Eugenics seems to be part & parcel as well.


  178. BatGuano
    180 | March 17, 2010 03:47

    @ RIX:
    Rix, it saddens me to say he marxist. But that is where his actions point.


  179. RIX
    181 | March 17, 2010 03:47

    BatGuano wrote:

    @ RIX:
    You could have also asked ,”which came first, the chicken or the egg”.

    Lol, that’s pretty good.


  180. BatGuano
    182 | March 17, 2010 03:48

    @ goddessoftheclassroom:
    I agree.


  181. RIX
    183 | March 17, 2010 03:51
    BatGuano wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Rix, it saddens me to say he marxist. But that is where his actions point.

    Yeah I feel the same way, I would prefer to think that he is not.
    The evidnce though says that he is. Even in one of his memoirs he says that he has gravitated toward Marxists.
    We do seek a comfort level with our associations.


  182. 184 | March 17, 2010 03:52

    BatGuano wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Rix, it saddens me to say he marxist. But that is where his actions point.

    His father, his mother and his grandparents were all hardcore Marxists, the apple as they say does not fall far from the tree, his actions sadly prove that truism…


  183. BatGuano
    185 | March 17, 2010 03:52

    @ goddessoftheclassroom:
    Bye, Goddess! Never underestimate the Visigoths.


  184. RIX
    186 | March 17, 2010 03:57

    @ doriangrey:
    His father, his mother and his grandparents were all hardcore Marxists, the apple as they say does not fall far from the tree, his actions sadly prove that truism…

    Grandpa was a lay about bum. One of his good pals was hard core Commie Frank Marshall Davis, who he introduced into Baracks life.


  185. 187 | March 17, 2010 03:57

    This is for Macker:

    I miss him, too.


  186. 188 | March 17, 2010 03:59

    RIX wrote:

    BatGuano wrote:
    @ RIX:
    Rix, it saddens me to say he marxist. But that is where his actions point.

    Yeah I feel the same way, I would prefer to think that he is not.
    The evidnce though says that he is. Even in one of his memoirs he says that he has gravitated toward Marxists.
    We do seek a comfort level with our associations.

    The Fifth Column Media, formerly known as the Mainstream Media, willfully and knowingly deceived the American public with regards to Obama’s political Ideology, they knew he was a Marxist and they intentionally mislead the public about it.

    They (the Fifth Column Media) are Marxists and they saw an opportunity to stage a bloodless Marxist coup, they like all Marxists believe that “We the People” are not intelligent enough to be trusted to make the right decisions, so they lied to us to get their political agenda passed.


  187. BatGuano
    189 | March 17, 2010 03:59

    Rix, Dorian: @ RIX:
    “It’s going to be a bumpy night”.


  188. RIX
    190 | March 17, 2010 04:00

    Just a sidenote. Last year the Obamas had the White House fountain water dyed green for St. Pats.
    Paddy O’Bama?


  189. BatGuano
    191 | March 17, 2010 04:01

    @ doriangrey:
    I hope the MSM catches on. Not holding my breath.


  190. RIX
    192 | March 17, 2010 04:03

    @ doriangrey:
    They (the Fifth Column Media) are Marxists and they saw an opportunity to stage a bloodless Marxist coup, they like all Marxists believe that “We the People” are not intelligent enough to be trusted to make the right decisions, so they lied to us to get their political agenda passed

    When you hear these people interviewed, they just drip disdain for
    average Americans. They think that we are rubes & knuckle draggers.


  191. 193 | March 17, 2010 04:04

    BatGuano wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I hope the MSM catches on. Not holding my breath.

    They dont have to catch on, they knew all along, they believe that they are more intelligent, better educated and more compassionate than us of the unwashed masses. What they are is power hungry fascist control freaks.


  192. BatGuano
    194 | March 17, 2010 04:08

    doriangrey wrote:

    They dont have to catch on, they knew all along,

    You’re right. They are complicit.


  193. 195 | March 17, 2010 04:14

    RIX wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    They (the Fifth Column Media) are Marxists and they saw an opportunity to stage a bloodless Marxist coup, they like all Marxists believe that “We the People” are not intelligent enough to be trusted to make the right decisions, so they lied to us to get their political agenda passed
    When you hear these people interviewed, they just drip disdain for
    average Americans. They think that we are rubes & knuckle draggers.

    Exactly, we shouldn’t be trusted to make decisions with regard to what is in our best interests because our best interests are not the best interests of society as a whole.

    In their opinion society as a whole is more important than the individuals which compromise society itself. What they fail to grasp is that without individuals their is no society as a whole.

    They cling desperately to the false notion that as long as they abide by the rules of society that they will never fall victim to the draconian measure which they advocate to control the behavior of those individuals which make up society.

    The problem is, the more power you give any governing body to enact and enforce laws to force individuals to conform to society the more impossible it becomes for any individual to abide by those laws, and sooner or later everyone falls afoul of those laws.


  194. 196 | March 17, 2010 04:22

    BatGuano wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    They dont have to catch on, they knew all along,
    You’re right. They are complicit.

    I wish that they were only complicit, they were co-conspirators, they committed treason and sedition against the United States of America and the US Constitution. They like Barack Obama believe that the US Constitution is nothing but a dusty old document that needs at the very least to be updated and re-written but preferably to be scrapped altogether.

    Quite honestly I pray that a very serious day of reckoning comes to them and that they are held responsible for what they have done.


  195. BatGuano
    197 | March 17, 2010 04:22

    @ doriangrey:
    Fuckin’ A Bubba, well told.


  196. 198 | March 17, 2010 04:23

    OK later folks, time to head off to the salt mines, have a happy and safe St Patrick’s day everyone… :)


  197. vagabond trader
    199 | March 17, 2010 04:24

    Good morning everyone.

    Thank you Mr Heston,a pity nothing has changed. He didn’t like Clinton, can you imagine his reaction to the present occupant of 1600.


  198. BatGuano
    200 | March 17, 2010 04:28

    doriangrey wrote:

    Quite honestly I pray that a very serious day of reckoning comes to them and that they are held responsible for what they have done.

    It will happen. The American people are not as stupid as the dims think.
    2010 elections will be pivotal.


  199. BatGuano
    201 | March 17, 2010 04:30

    @ doriangrey:
    Bye, Dorian.


  200. vagabond trader
    202 | March 17, 2010 04:32

    @ RIX:

    LOL.

    RIX,you probably have read this. Funny,this side of the family probably experienced more oppression than his African branch.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/12/AR2007051201551.html


  201. BatGuano
    203 | March 17, 2010 04:35

    Good night, all.


  202. RIX
    204 | March 17, 2010 04:39

    @ doriangrey:
    In their opinion society as a whole is more important than the individuals which compromise society itself. What they fail to grasp is that without individuals their is no society as a whole

    .

    Exactly, it is a collectivist mentality with no respect for the individual.


  203. RIX
    205 | March 17, 2010 04:42

    @ vagabond trader:

    Good morning Trader. Sure, he’s Irish. Yeah that’s the ticket/


  204. Bumr50
    206 | March 17, 2010 04:43

    Wow. I Get the flu for a couple of days and the country turns into Botswana.


  205. vagabond trader
    207 | March 17, 2010 04:43

    @ RIX:

    When things get desperate enough he’ll be making a pilgrimage to Moneygall. :mrgreen:


  206. RIX
    208 | March 17, 2010 04:49

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ RIX:
    When things get desperate enough he’ll be making a pilgrimage to Moneygall.

    Count on it. Naybe he’s a kennedy!


  207. RIX
    209 | March 17, 2010 04:50

    See ya later.


  208. vagabond trader
    210 | March 17, 2010 05:16

    Bet there was more agonizing over this than debating he11care.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34464.html


  209. Nevergiveup
    211 | March 17, 2010 05:21

    With his wavy bouffant and medallion necklaces, the Rev. Al Sharpton famously confronted government officials on behalf of black Americans. Now he has found a new role: telling black leaders to quiet their criticisms and give the government a chance.

    President Barack Obama has turned to Sharpton in recent weeks to answer increasingly public criticism in the black community over his economic policy.

    First Wright, now Sharpton. If you judge a man by his friends, well there it is.


  210. RIX
    212 | March 17, 2010 05:25

    @ Nevergiveup:
    With his wavy bouffant and medallion necklaces, the Rev. Al Sharpton famously confronted government officials on behalf of black Americans. Now he has found a new role: telling black leaders to quiet their criticisms and give the government a chance.

    Not only does Sharpton race whore all over the place & astroturf issues , he is also a hypocrite.
    Can you imagine him asking to give President Bush a chance?


  211. rain of lead
    213 | March 17, 2010 05:49

    mornin folks


  212. rain of lead
    214 | March 17, 2010 05:52

    todays day by day

    http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/


  213. RIX
    215 | March 17, 2010 05:53

    I was just doing a little dumpster diving & look whai I found.

    224 JSHos

    Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:58:49am replyquote 0downupreport

    re: #193 iceweasel

    Wow — you are SUCH a nasty piece of work! I’ve lurked on and off at this site for a long time, and have watched the changes unfold. I imagine that Mandy is thankful to see (for a change) a poster who seems to agree with her political beliefs. Surely she must feel a bit like an island these days. For you to jump down her throat and attempt to start something with her when she wasn’t addressing you, drudging up this war you have with her unprovoked is so obnoxious (and so typical of you).

    I realize this is none of my business, but I guess I’ve seen you do this so often that this was one time too many. I’ve said my piece. I’ll leave you to it.

    Mandy, I know you can fight your own battles, sorry for interfering.

    A butt hurt, bite me, bad crazy smack down of the Weasel


  214. chickadee
    216 | March 17, 2010 05:58

    Happy St. Paddy’s Day

    I love Charleton Heston. There is a vacuum in Hollywood for guys like this. If anyone had the balls to step up, we could see a new trend in leading men. There sure aren’t any now. Most people do not respect the cowardly p.c. morons who bash America and smile, expecting a pat on the head. Just look how their movies flop.
    And Zero refusing to fly the American flag in Haiti, he is leading the charge in parroting sasquatch’s “America is a down right mean country,” meme.
    Most citizens do NOT appreciate Zero constantly showing disrespect for this country.
    It will be his undoing.


  215. rain of lead
    217 | March 17, 2010 06:01

    hey folks
    a local radio guy has a great idea
    have you tried to call your congressman’s office and got a busy signal?
    call your LOCAL democrat (county and state) office, let them know
    that the bs in washington will affect them as well.

    they will get through and say hey you guys are KILLING our party

    make some calls


  216. vagabond trader
    218 | March 17, 2010 06:02

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Whoa,when potus feels the need to use Sharpton as a buffer in the “community” things must be pretty sour.Oh well, reap what you sow.


  217. RIX
    219 | March 17, 2010 06:02
    @ chickadee:
    And Zero refusing to fly the American flag in Haiti, he is leading the charge in parroting sasquatch’s “America is a down right mean country,” meme

    Tells you all that you need to know. As if more was needed.


  218. vagabond trader
    220 | March 17, 2010 06:03

    @ chickadee:

    {chickadee} Top o’the mornin’ to ya! :D


  219. chickadee
    221 | March 17, 2010 06:08

    RIX wrote:

    I was just doing a little dumpster diving & look whai I found.

    224 JSHos

    Wed, Mar 17, 2010 4:58:49am replyquote 0downupreport

    re: #193 iceweasel

    Wow — you are SUCH a nasty piece of work! I’ve lurked on and off at this site for a long time, and have watched the changes unfold. I imagine that Mandy is thankful to see (for a change) a poster who seems to agree with her political beliefs. Surely she must feel a bit like an island these days. For you to jump down her throat and attempt to start something with her when she wasn’t addressing you, drudging up this war you have with her unprovoked is so obnoxious (and so typical of you).

    I realize this is none of my business, but I guess I’ve seen you do this so often that this was one time too many. I’ve said my piece. I’ll leave you to it.

    Mandy, I know you can fight your own battles, sorry for interfering.

    A butt hurt, bite me, bad crazy smack down of the Weasel

    Icehole is the kind of out of control vile scrunt, that even lefty people who might agree with the bile she spews, do not like her, do not trust her and would love to see her gone. In real life this kind of disruptive, nasty, know nothing would be shunned and banished. She is going to be shocked when cluck realizes she is a detriment to his blog, and quietly gets rid of her. Look for champagne corks to pop over there when that happens. She is despised by everyone at the cesspool. She is just too much of a fcking monster.


  220. rain of lead
    222 | March 17, 2010 06:09

    wow
    this is gonna leave a mark

    Exclusive: Study shows ObamaCare will destroy as many as 700,000 jobs by 2019

    Pelosi said it was a jobs bill, just not a GOOD jobs bill


  221. vagabond trader
    223 | March 17, 2010 06:15

    @ rain of lead:

    Did it mention how many lives this pos is going to impact? I heard a minion on FOX singing the praises of the bill. Ooooooo,did you know it’ll allow you to keep your adult “children” on your insurance and you cannot be turned down for insurance if you have a pre existing condition.Yeah,sound reasons to take over the entire system/


  222. chickadee
    224 | March 17, 2010 06:17

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ chickadee:

    {chickadee} Top o’the mornin’ to ya!

    Hey {VT}, and a fine morning it it.
    Are you wearing green? I’ve picked out a pretty green sweater to wear today.


  223. vagabond trader
    225 | March 17, 2010 06:23

    @ chickadee:

    Thanks for reminding me,must attach something green to the ensemble. Would my pretty jade green art deco pendant count? :-)


  224. 226 | March 17, 2010 06:24

    @ RIX:
    And another poster will be tossed on the “ash heap of history”.

    Good morning everyone.


  225. chickadee
    227 | March 17, 2010 06:27

    @ vagabond trader:
    Certainly. It’s the thought that counts.
    :)


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