Lil’ Kim ain’t playin!
by m ( 152 Comments › )
Filed under North Korea, Politics at March 18th, 2010 - 2:00 pm
From the “Democratic Peoples’ Republic of Korea” we have this:
North Korean official executed for ruining country’s financial affairs
A leading North Korean financial expert has been dragged before a firing squad and shot dead for ruining the country’s financial affairs.
Mr Pak Nam Ki was responsible for revaluing the communist regime’s currency last November, but his attempts to curb inflation caused nationwide misery – and leader Kim Jong Ill was not amused.
It is understood the execution is an attempt to contain civil unrest.
Read the rest here: North Korean official executed for ruining country’s financial affairs
Look out Geithner. You better hope this doesn’t give “teh won” any ideas.
NK’s soccer coach might wanna hide out for awhile as well.
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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
Poteen’s first firsty.
Seriously we should think about that. Might make them pay more attn.
He keeps this up he will be very ronery.
Summary execution for failure of governance. Film at 11.
Is that a joke, the whole freaking country is in ruins.
@ Poteen:
I wouldn’t be surprised if someone raised an eyebrow on hearing this and said… huh… is this possible?
/only half joking
Truck Monkey wrote:
Nah, short blond N. Korean hookers will still work.
As long as there’s no apartment building, there’s no reason for the US to condemn any internal act in N.Korea.
Poteen wrote:
Heh.
OT- Guys these are the Dems that need to go. They sold out by voting on the Slaughter Amendment so they don’t have to vote for the bill.
Jason Altmire, Pennsylvania.
John Barrow, Georgia.
John Boccieri, Ohio.
Allen Boyd, Florida.
Leonard Boswell, Iowa.
Steve Driehaus, Ohio.
Joe Donnelly, Indiana.
Brad Ellsworth, Indiana.
Baron Hill, Indiana.
Marcy Kaptur, Ohio.
Dan Maffei, New York.
Jim Marshall, Georgia.
Jim Matheson, Utah.
Michael McMahon, New York.
Betsy Markey, Colorado.
Patrick Murphy, Pennsylvania.
Earl Pomeroy, North Dakota.
Nick Rahall, West Virginia.
Joe Sestak, Pennsylvania.
Carol Shea Porter, New Hampshire.
Ike Skelton, Missouri.
Zach Space, Ohio.
John Spratt, South Carolina.
Charlie Wilson, Ohio.
@ m:
Hello there!
Overlook wrote:
Wonder what happened to the architect who designed that 93-story hotel with no elevators?
Today Cankles stood next to Sergie Lavrov and smiled as Sergei said it’s full steam ahead on the Iranian nuke plant, but when the Israelis want to build an appartment building or two cankles gets the lamp throwing arm warmed up. At this point it might be better to be considered an enemy of the US than an ally (consider Israel, Great Britain, Poland).
@ Rodan:
I don’t think that’s exactly what went down. Stay tuned.
Truck Monkey wrote:
Maybe Bibi needs to hire Bill as a Cankles consultant.
First Hans Blix, now this guy. Don’t f#&* with Lil’ Kim!
snork wrote:
I do believe that he has moved on to other cigar holders.
Revalued the currency? And concerned about inflation following? I’d be interested to know the basket of goods by which they measure inflation.
Kim’s gourmet packages from France ?
Not totally off topic.
I have a cousin named Kim and she has never killed anyone.
NTTAWWT
/
m wrote:
I’m not. These guys are so into polls and perception and not into performance that I think an ‘Idol’ knockoff is in order. Politicians get voted to the next show based on their performance. Failures go to the ‘Survivor” knockoff, where the trials are usually fatal.
The ad revenue would dwarf the Super Bowl.
@ Rodan:
When before the judge of history, they’ll plead nolo contendere.
Overlook wrote:
……or perhaps the Alford plea.
Certainly the UN will have harsh words about that
@ Rodan:
You can find the updates and roll call at Michelle Malkins site. Altmire will be toast. This I vow.
Is that Kim’s version of the bus?
Report: Israel to offer ‘don’t ask don’t tell’ on East Jerusalem builds
By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent
Israel will not cancel the newly approved East Jerusalem construction project, but will postpone its execution to facilitate peace talks with the Palestinian Authority, a Washington Post report citing Israel’s U.S. envoy said on Thursday.
Senior Post reporter Jackson Diehl, said that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is expected to tell the Obama administration that he both cannot revoke the Ramat Shlomo expansion plan both for legal reasons and as a result of wide public support in continued building in Jerusalem.
However, according to Diehl’s report based on a briefing from Israel’s ambassador to the United States Michael Oren, Netanyahu will respond by offering Israel’s “assurances that the new neighborhood will not be constructed anytime soon; it is, in fact, two or three years from groundbreaking.”
“Coupled to that would be an Israeli pledge to avoid publicizing further construction decisions in Jerusalem. The result would not be a freeze, but something like a ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy for settlements,” Diehl added.
teacake wrote:
Why? It’s not like the North Koreans are Jews!
@ Nevergiveup:
I know you disagree but tying the building of homes in completely Israeli towns (just because it upsets the U.S. and the New Nazis) to a “peace process” grants legitimacy to the claim that they actually have anything to do with peace, and grants the U.S. the ability to micromanage Israel’s internal affairs.
This is folly!
On Topic:
Well, at least NK isn’t building apartments.
@ Nevergiveup:
As way of example, my argument is bolstered by the fact that the U.S. and Israel are discussing apartment building instead of things like this:
PLO TV Indoctrinates Children That Israel Doesn’t & Never Existed.
WrathofG-d wrote:
And all the people that have been providing jobs, medical attention, prisoner releases, etc… figments of their demonic imagination.
WrathofG-d wrote:
N0, I don’t disagree nor have I ever. My only point all along was that announcing the permits when Biden was there was stupid. And Israel’s position to return to the “don’t tell, don’t ask, don’t announce” policy is exactly what I said all along!
Mean While Back At The Ranch With No Fences.
aka “open borders”
La Raza
Progressives
Blue Dog with teeth
Loons from Lunar Landers “kinsinitch” etal
Baby Killers for Calif re-election money
Well the 9 legged mudsa is eating 4 of its own legs now
La Raza says, Do not Vote for this Senate deal,, not good for illegals.
Chomp,, Chomp,,,Chomp go the chumps.
You go Obama wipe them into a total freenzie,,,, your the best thing we have to un-elect the looney lot of them.
@ WrathofG-d:
They say the stupidest things. lol But I guess with this proper environment, they can say what they want. They know that no country has Israel’s back anymore. I weep for that nation. Truly I do.
wip@ taxfreekiller:
@ WrathofG-d:
Remember just after all the Jews in the Gaza area packed up and left the asshole pallies where griping and whining about how there were no more jobs or doctors? LOL They got part of their state, voted in hamas and things are worse for them than ever.
WTF?
@ teacake:
since you bring up the 2005 expulsion (and World cheered ethnic cleansing), it should be stated again how silent the world was about the Muslims burning down synagogues.
teacake wrote:
Because the Palestinians never miss a chance to miss a chance
@ teacake:
Good article here about Gaza:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1209965-1,00.html
@ WrathofG-d:
The Palestinians are a cancer within the Iraeli body politic, and continuing to pursue the fantasy of “negotiations” is more than folly; it’s national suicide.
@ Nevergiveup:
What have they missed? I know the line, and its a cute one…but seriously what have they missed?
They started with the demand at worst for all of Israel, and at best for all of post 1967 Israel, and after years of “missing the opportunity” they are still be offered all of post 1967 Israel, and still demanding all of Israel.
So again, what have they missed? It is really time for all of us Pro-Israel types to get off the old false assumptions.
Good grief, another good look at what happened when the Jews left Gaza:
http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/ExodusFromGaza.html
With pic. The Jews were forced out and in came the Palis with weapons. Nice people. /
@ NoThreat2U:
That is a good article!
@ teacake:
I vaugely remember them leaving Gaza. To my own shame, I didn’t pay much attention back then. I just googled and this is what I found. These animals are relentless.
Hey did lil Kim used to be a woman? I think he went to mexico for a sex change.Same place chuckie went. Now look at him.Looks like he’s been riding high speed in the back of a pick up truck.
WrathofG-d wrote:
1) if they had taken Rabin up on his offers of “self Rule” , they’d probably have a State Today
2) if they had accepted Barak’s offfer at Camp David, they’d have a State Now.
3) If they hadn’t responded to Israel’s peace offers after the 67 War, They’d probably have a State Now.
4) Only Jordan and Egypt ever said “Yes” and they got what they wanted and then pretty much ignored their obligations. So I stand by what i said. I didn’t say it would be good for Israel, just that the Palestinians always so no and them suffer for it.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Well of course! Destroy the greenhouses to have another way to smuggle weapons. Who the hell needs to grow food?
@ teacake:
They really are mentally defective. That may sound harsh but come on! Years and years and years of indoctrination to hate isn’t gonna go away any time soon. So sad. Someone who knows more about this than I do should make a list. I want to see a list of what the barbaric donkey-men have been given on a silver platter, and then I want to see what they have done with it.
@ NoThreat2U:
There are lists at various sites – pages and pages – lists of thousands of attacks and various crap.
NoThreat2U wrote:
palestinian children’s tv (which was funded in part by the US) had a lot to do with it, beside the family upbringing.
Anyone post this today? I am sending it to my libtard mother who wouldn’t listen to anything I had to say pre-election about the personal history and intentions of Lil’ Douche. I haven’t spoke to her about politics since that day in August 2008. I am about to start rubbing her nose in it deep and hard, and this will be a good start.
Monday, March 15, 2010
“I won”
In the end everything we ever needed to know about Obama could have been gleaned from his two word reply to a Republican Senator who objected to Obama’s disastrous economic stimulus plan. “I Won.” And of course Obama won the battle and lost the war. The economic stimulus plan passed but was widely considered unpopular and a failure. It played a big part in the public perception of a wasteful government tossing around money with no real results. But Obama is still wedded to the “win”.
Now as his Democrats prepare to try to illegally ram through an even more unpopular health care bill, achieving a “win” by any means necessary, Obama still doesn’t understand that there’s no victory for him here. Only different flavors of defeat.
When Obama proclaimed “I Won”, he did not mean that he represented a democratic public consensus. He meant that he personally won. It was not about what the people wanted. It was about his own victory by any means necessary. Hardly surprising from the man who began his political career by betraying and destroying his own mentor, climbed into the United States Senate over two sex scandals that were a product of his opposition research, and reached the White House through voter fraud, illegal campaign donations and an owned media corps.
Obama has never succeeded because he represented the public consensus. He got ahead by subverting the consensus. By making sure there was no other choice. By stacking the ballot boxes, using his lawyers to bar his opponents from running and smearing them using Axelrod’s underhanded media connections so that they would be forced to drop out. Obama kept on winning. Democracy kept on losing. Each win for Obama was another loss for fair and honest elections. And each time Obama won, it was not because the public decided he was the better man, but because the sheer array of dirty tricks, fraud and media propaganda insured that no choices would be allowed.
That is the way Obama ran his campaigns. That is the way he is now running Washington D.C. Slaughtercare is just the latest and far from the last of his dirty tricks. And if it succeeds, once again democracy will lose and Obama will win. But by disregarding the people as a mass of sheep who can be tricked, lied to or intimidated into voting for him– Obama is really playing the tyrant’s game. His “I Won” is not substantially any different from Hugo Chavez’s “I Won” or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s “I Won”. Like his fellow Marxist tyrants in Latin America, Obama counts getting his way as a win. But in reality, like every crook, each of his wins brings him one step closer to his ultimate downfall.
Because you can only get away with it for so long, and each escalation in dirty tricks and illegal actions produces an equal and opposite reaction from the opposition, leaving Obama with a choice between losing at the ballot box, or escalating into a power struggle that will take place outside the ballot box altogether. Slaughtercare demonstrates that Obama will push to get his way, stepping entirely outside the law, just so he can take home another win. But all he is really doing is creating a precedent that will force him to either up the ante or back down. And there are only so many times he can up the ante without making a full transition to Chavezism, thereby moving the power struggle outside the realm of the ballot box entirely, and into that of naked force.
Health Care was Obama’s chance to show that he was capable of listening to the people and backing down when the public strongly opposed one of his plans. Instead he decided to score a win by any means he could. Slaughtercare puts Obama on the road to Chavezism. And he will have a great deal of trouble leaving that road, particularly once his congressional majority begins to drastically shrink in the midterm elections. Obama has shown that one congressional setback and the law will not prevent him from forcing his way in anyway. After the midterm elections, the Republicans will neither forget not forgive, and Obama has clearly shown that he will not bow to the public will. And thus Obama’s “I Won” takes him on an undemocratic course and into very dangerous territory indeed.
Obama’s supporters may pretend that his “I Won” referred to the Republicans. In reality it refers to the American people. Slaughtercare counts as his coup against the people who wanted a more bipartisan congress, and rather than listen to them, Obama instead decided to get his win anyway. Like much of the left, Obama has the attitude of a petulant child who would rather overturn the game board, than concede, learn from his mistakes, and play a better game. Slaughtercare does overturn the game board, but the board is the United States Congress. And there are only so many times he can overturn that board without overturning the board that is the United States of America as well.
For Obama, the United States and its political institutions are nothing more than pawns in another con, in a long series of cons, that a lonely boy used to fit in and succeed among his classmates. For him there is no “Us”, only the “I” of himself, and the “Them” of everyone else. And so Obama can play the game, but he places no values on the rules or the integrity of the institutions he is playing with. To dedicated chess players, each piece is part of a game that unlocks a higher level of reasoning and understanding. To an angry boy throwing a tantrum, they are only pieces of plastic, and there is no reason not to move a rook diagonally, or a bishop horizontally. Whatever gets the pieces to the end of the board. Whatever lets him claim, “I Won.”
Despite the three elected offices he has held, Barack Hussein Obama has never seen himself as a subset of the rules. He has seen the rules as a subset of himself. From Machiavelli to Alinsky, the common denominator is that the rules are only a means to an end. And the easiest way to win is to exploit and change the rules. But never to fall for the belief that the rules have any value in and of themselves.
So to the left, an election is only valuable as a means to an end, such as enacting a health care bill. But it is only valuable as the shortest and most effective means to reaching that end. If a general strike or a series of bombings or a boycott are more reliably and rapidly effective at producing those same results, then they become the preferred method. Because to the left, political institutions and democracy exist only as vehicles for their own agenda.
And the best sort of champions for that agenda are men who are capable of wearing a thousand masks, without any commitment to them. Men who do not believe in the roles they play. Who only believe in themselves. In their own greatness. In their own will to power. In other words, tyrants. Because the shortest distance between the belief and the end, is the tyrant. For the tyrant embodies the ideal of the left, its unchecked progressivism directed by the superior minds of those who are unafraid to do whatever it takes to the goal. Men to whom government is a means, not an end.
When Obama said, “I Won”. He did not mean that he had won the responsibility to direct the public and political consensus within the framework of the United States Constitution. He meant that he had won the power to do as he pleased. The last year has been Obama wielding the power to do as he pleases. And now even as the public is robbing him of his compliant congress, Obama is still determined to wield power as he pleases. And as a result, Barack Hussein Obama’s fight is not with the Republican party. It is with the American people. Every victory for Obama is a defeat for the American people. Every victory for the American people is a defeat for Obama.
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/
@ Nevergiveup:
They don’t want a state, and when they decide to…they will still get 100% of what they are demanding.
IE: They haven’t missed anything.
@ teacake:
I’m gonna have to start digging. I want facts to shove in people’s faces. Yes, I am nasty like that
@ Scott Madsen:
Dude, you called your Mom a libtard? lol lol
WrathofG-d wrote:
They want a platform to arm and destroy Israel from and if they had agreed to self rule leading to a State, they’d be there already. So I think they have missed quite a bit- Thank G-D
@ teacake:
You know, it reminds me of what often happens here (though without the bombings and wanton killing); people come into a perfectly nice neighborhood, trash it, then complain that they’re “being expected to live in this shithole”. I’ve seen that happen in neighborhoods in my city.
As for the Palis, they’ve been conditioned to believe that they can get what they want with violence, and they always want more and more and more. As long as they’re appeased, and even excused for their actions we will get more of the same barbarity that we have seen in the past.
The fantasy of “peace with the Palestinians” is a dangerous one.
@ NoThreat2U:
This is the cover of the 1970 Time Magazine.
Enough said!
@ NoThreat2U:
She’s a Suburu driving, community church soup line working, FDR worshipping, fully pscho-anylized and libererated from the patriachy, inside the beltway former GI contracts administrator libtard.
@ WrathofG-d:
I have seen that cover numerous times in recent years.
@ Scott Madsen:
I can imagine holidays at her house. lol lol
OT and a drive-by but of interest to Rodan and coldwarrior. From the Bosnia feed of Telegraph UK:
Radovan Karadzic: war against ‘Islamist goals’ of Muslims was ‘just’
BBIAB.
From ACE:
FoxNews Says Count Is 214-217
@ NoThreat2U:
Indeed, I sit down and break bread with three or four other Jane Goodall looking ‘couples’.
My brother calls it, “going to hang with the Bone Diggers.
@ Miss Trixie:
Great article. Thanks for posting it
@ Scott Madsen:
LOL Remember, you can pick your friends, but you can’t pick your family.
Miss Trixie wrote:
Hmmm. That sounds vaguely familar. The sad part about Bosnia was that the Serbs were portrayed as “Nazis” when they were only trying to fight the wave of Islamists.
The Serbs were constantly being accused of “ethnic cleansing”
People saw that as synonomous with genocide.
It isn’t it referred to mass deportation.
I have no idea if the charge is actually true, but I would prefer to
be removed rather than eliminated.
MacDuff wrote:
No doubt everyone involved in the “peace” process is fully aware that it is impossible. The parties involved continue the farce only to fuck with Israel and pilfer money from the rest of the hand-wringing world.
RIX wrote:
I’ve hesitated to get involved in this, but there were mass graves found that were attributed to Serb’s killing Muslims. I do not deny that there were also atrocities committed by the Muslims against both Serbs and Croates also.
Yeah I agree with that & I was a little squeamish about mentioning
the charge of “ethnic cleansing”, because it ain’t pretty.
There were atrocities on both sides, but we did take sides.
That always threw me for a loop.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Quite a few links at this page
Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs
RIX wrote:
Yeah, but 2 wrongs don’t make a right.
This comments made CNN International here in Eurabia tonight.
US President Barack Obama harbors anti-Semitism and the American Jews who voted for him are not pro-Israel, Dr. Hagi Ben-Artzi, the outspoken brother-in-law of Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, said on Wednesday. …
“Unfortunately, there is an anti-Semitic president in America,” he said. “As a politician who ran for president, he had to hide it, but from time to time, it bursts out from inside. It’s creating a difficult situation for Israel, but we won’t even consider giving up on our deep interests.” …
“For 20 years he sat with the preacher Jeremiah Wright, who is anti-Semitic, anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli,” Ben-Artzi said. “When an anti-Semitic president comes to power in America, it is our test, and we must say: ‘We will not give up. …
EireIsrael go bra.@ teacake:
I saved the link to read further.
Thanks
@ Nevergiveup:
One thing to note: mass graves do not automatically equal atrocity. They show that a large number of people were killed and buried in the same hole. They don’t say how or why. You can find mass graves near pretty much any major battlefield. We tend to think atrocity because we are used to military fields of rows of white crosses, but that is pretty culture specific. I don’t think you see the same thing for, say, the Germans who were killed in WWII. The winners get a hero’s grave, the losers all go in the same hole. It’s been that way since Gilgamesh and Enkidu went to war.
@ Nevergiveup:
Nobody thinks it made it right. What was the alternative? Complain to the UN? Sit back and take it? Sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire. The moes would have gotten that message if the international community backed the Serb opposition.
True
@ Iron Fist:
@ NoThreat2U:
The mass graves at Srebrenica leave little doubt as to what transpired. There is no excuse for what transpired there.
@ Nevergiveup:
Well then it looks like the muslims found an opponent that was as ruthless as they were. BTW are there any muslims on trial for war crimes? Didn’t think so.
NoThreat2U wrote:
that has nothing to do with the fact that a horrible crime was committed at Srebrenica.
Nevergiveup:
They were Islamic fighters and the Serbs took no prisoners. They did nothing different than what the Muzzies did.
@ Nevergiveup:
And there were no horrible crimes perpetrated by the other side in a different location? This cannot be a one sided thing. I love how the world goes crazy when a shitload of moes are killed. When other groups are slaughtered where is the outrage? Please tell me. I am not saying it is a nice thing that happened, then again, they had their own tactics used against them.
Rodan wrote:
Sorry I don’t believe that is what happened in Srebrenica.
@ Nevergiveup:
Those weren’t civilians but Islamic fighters. They were killing Serb civilians and got what they had coming.
I feel no pity for what happened in Srbenica.
In WW2, 750, Serbs were killed by the Muzzies and Nazis. People don’t forget.
NoThreat2U wrote:
I am not now or have ever defended the “other side”. But wrong is wrong. Period.
The Pale Hippie Bicyclist of the Apocalypse is whinging about Pam Geller again…
Rodan wrote:
Well we will have to disagree. I do not believe that.
@ Nevergiveup:
That is what happened, they were Fighters and got killed. Was it brutal, yes but that’s the only language they understand.
2 Million Christians were killed in the Sudan and no one did nothing and 50,000 in Lebanon
My heart doesn’t bleed for Muzzies.
@ Nevergiveup:
Fair enough!
@ Nevergiveup:
Do you really know what happened in Srebrenica? I don’t. I know that the people who are claiming atrocity cannot be trusted. Clinton, the UN, and the KLA are not reliable witnesses. I work with a guy who is a Serb Christian. I haven’t asked him, but would he be considered a reliable witness (he would have been a kid, then, anyway)? Certainly he’d be more reliable than Clinton, the UN, and the KLA. I don’t know what happened there, but honestly, neither do you unless you have some other source of information than the rest of us.
Rodan wrote:
I am not for one second defending any Muslim atrocity and there are many of them. But i do not believe the people murdered at Srebrenica was fighters killed in action.
Nevergiveup wrote:
222-203. http://michellemalkin.com/
@ Nevergiveup:
Wrong is wrong. But what do you do? Talk to the other side and explain to them that what they are doing is wrong? They would chop your head off. What was the alternative for Serbia?
@ The Osprey:
She owns his brain! The un-Mata Hari one might have reason to be jealous…
NoThreat2U wrote:
You can pick your ass, and claim you didn’t vote for him later.
Iron Fist wrote:
From everything I have read, I think the evidence is overwhelming that these people did NOT die in combat.
Anyone on this? It seems kind of ominous.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/63032
@ Nevergiveup:
Like you said we will just have to agree to disagree!
NoThreat2U wrote:
I am sorry I will NEVER condone the mass murder of thousands.
@ Rodan:
Well d’uh…they’re only Christians! Don’t you know that they are as low on the Respectability Ladder as the Jews thesedays? Get with the program.
vagabond trader wrote:
And that surprises you how? When the shark smells blood?
@ NoThreat2U:
Yeah 6,00 Jihadis get killed it genocide! 2 Million Christians in the Sudan and 50,000 in Lebanon die it’s just a civil war.
Muslims are the master race, you didn’t know that!
@ Nevergiveup:
I am not condoning it. But realize, you and I weren’t there living through it. Our families were not decimated because of it. Those in the thick of the matter had a decision to make. Did they make the right one? Obviously no because everyone came to the rescue of the muslims. They would have been completely wiped out if they had not fought back.
@ Nevergiveup:
This is how you do a budget!
New Jersey Governor Proposes Deep Spending Cuts
Good going Jersey!
@ Rodan:
Like hell they are! Yeah, where is the outrage at the Christian slaughters????? **crickets**
@ Nevergiveup:
Rule by decree. This is the way the Republic falls. If we don’t turn them out in November, we may not have the chance to do so in 2012.
@ NoThreat2U:
The only reason the world gave a shit about Srbenica is because of Arab propaganda and the Leftist as always going along with it. Also since these where White Muslims it became important.
2 Million Black Christians in the Sudan die no one cares.
It definitely was racial.
I think that the conflict spun out of control & atrocities took place on both sides.
What I could never undrerstand though is, what was the rationale for intervening on the side of the Muslims,
I am in no way condoning bad conduct by either party, but why side with the Muslims?
@ Iron Fist:
I have a post on that in an hour and a half.
@ Rodan:
A million Tutsie at the hands of the Hutu, as well. Of course there was a racial component.
@ NoThreat2U:
Your Avitar has the picture of 2 US Soldiers in Uniform. You think our Military would ever act like that? You think my Military would ever condone that? Under any circumstances? I don’t.
@ RIX:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/17/nyregion/17budget.html
They demonized the Serbs. Arab propaganda and their Leftist cohorts made a big deal of the conflict. Remember these are White Muslims so it was a good propaganda coup for the Imperialists. No one cared about dead Black Christians.
81 nevergiveup
Sorry I don’t believe that is what happened in Srebrenica.
I have an acquintance who did some time in the former Yugoslavia with the Bundeswehr in the mid 90′s. His patrol found a house with 3 (christian) babies roasted in an oven.
I would be more concerned with what is not being told than having to hear about Srebrenica (yet again).
NSFW! *graphic*
Serbs killed by muslims. And who is facing charges for this?? No one? Oh that’s interesting.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.savekosovo.org/articleimages/nasilje-24.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.savekosovo.org/default.asp%3Fp%3D3%26leader%3D0%26sp%3D49&usg=__FKH0WVln9S2nrZxtNOXUqyBTLi4=&h=500&w=358&sz=64&hl=en&start=16&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=ekpHtJLtbGXCdM:&tbnh=130&tbnw=93&prev=/images%3Fq%3DSerbians%2Bkilled%2Bby%2Bmuslims%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us%26tbs%3Disch:1
Don’t know why the link is so big.
@ Iron Fist:
You don;’t see the Muzzies wanting another round with the Serbs! I wonder why?
@ RIX:
I have no idea why we sided with the Muslims. But that is no excuse what so ever for what went on on both sides.
@ Rodan:
I agree completely. Oh shit! Does that make me a genocide supporter as per Charles Johnson?? LMAO*** Oh well.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
Its ok for Christians to be killed. Muslims are special they are the Masters!
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@ NoThreat2U:
I really don’t care what the Serbs did. It’s payback for what the Muslims did to them over the years.
Payback is a bitch!
@ Buckeye Abroad:
Then your missing the point. 2 wrongs don’t make a right and the scale of the deaths at Srebrenica was unprecedented in Europe since WW2.
Damn, this is from my own link:
http://www.savekosovo.org/default.asp?p=3&leader=0&sp=498
@ Rodan:
Payback is a bitch!
Aint it though
Read my second link. Very interesting.
@ Nevergiveup:
And was a negligible thing compared to Rwanda no matter what happened. Even you betray the reason we got involved: “in Europe”.
Iron Fist wrote:
Were have I EVER condoned any Muslim atrocity or shown even any Sympathy for them??? And what have I betrayed??
@ Iron Fist:
Let’s not forget the 2 Million black Christians in the Sudan.
I guess 6,000 White Muslims are worth more than 2 Million Blacks Christians.
@ Rodan:
I just could never figure out the reasoning in supporting the Muslims.
There was bad conduct on both sides, why support the Muslim side rather than staying out of it?
This was a blood feud that went all the way back to the early Muslim invasion.
More that that though, it went to World War II when the Muslims supported the Nazis , some even were SS troops, while the Serbs were
our allies.
@ RIX:
The same reason Obama is throwing Israel under the bus. To please the Dar AL Islam.
As I recall, Clinton needed a distraction.
BHO does dig the Ummah though.
@ RIX:
It seems like the only time the US is sticking their noses somewhere is when it is benefitting the muslims. I wonder why that is?
@ Nevergiveup:
I didn’t say you condoned anything. But you do betray (or evince, perhaps that is a poor choice of words) the reason there was a difference between Rwanda and Serbia. It is in Europe. The people dying were white. They also happened to be Mohammedan in Srebrinica. I’m not sure how much that played into things, but Clinton had to hacve some reason for picking the side he did. As you’ve acknowledged (is that better?), there were atrocities on all sides in the Balkan War.
Nevergiveup wrote:
You know, there was a time that I would have totally agreed. The utter barbarity that continues at the hands of Muslims, worldwide, gives me pause. No, I don’t condone genocide, but I have to wonder what the situation on the ground was at the time in Bosnia. Barbarism tends to beget barbarism, particularly when one side is hell-bent on imposing their beliefs on the other by whatever means necessary.
We destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, killing innocent men, women and children, simply in the interest of “convincing” a reluctant, and vicious enemy to surrender. We did so in the interest of self protection. We firebombed Dresden for the same reason. Putting civilians “off limits” is a pretty recent development in war.
While I’m not excusing anything the Serbs did, one must also consider the single mindedness and ruthlessness of the enemy they faced. I certainly don’t think that the parallel that was drawn beyween them and the Nazis was even close to accurate.
@ MacDuff:
You put that better than I could have. I tend to be angry. lol I am like the female Rodan? OMG!!!!!!
I think Iran’s days are numbered, and I am talking 2 weeks total…
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/world-news/final-destination-iran-1.1013151
Iron Fist wrote:
I was simply responding to a person who mentioned “His patrol found a house with 3 (christian) babies roasted in an oven.” and said 2 wrongs don’t make a right and that Srebrenica was the worst mass murder in Europe since WW2. Period. I never condoned any Muslim atrocity. I wasn’t ignoring Rwanda. It wasn’t on topic. And I never ventured any opinion why we intervened on the Muslim side in any way what so ever.
@ savage:
Obama ain’t got the balls to do it. If he did, we don’t need to ship the bombs to Diego Garcia. A B-2 can do the job from Kansas.
@ Iron Fist:
just reporting the facts….
@ savage:
Are we sure those arent the bunker busters that were just diverted from Israel??
@ MacDuff:
Sorry I don’t buy that reasoning.
@ savage:
Nothing is happening. If anything Obama would bomb Israel before he bombs Iran. He loves Iran!
Iron Fist wrote:
I don’t think he has the balls either. And curiously that story was pulled from many online Papers yesterday after it first appeared.
@ MacDuff:
You don’t see the Muzzies wanting to pick a fight with the Serbs again! But they sure as hell love fighting America, UK or Israel.
I wonder why?
@ Nevergiveup:
I read it was just a routine munitions transfer.
@ NoThreat2U:
Very good reasoning!
@ NoThreat2U:
To my knowledge, those were under contract.
That’s all I know for now.
Rodan wrote:
Well that hardly sounds routine. I am not sure what that was about. Maybe just to make Obama look like he was manning up, but he’d never pull the trigger.
@ Nevergiveup:
Negotiations ploy to show the force is not off the table.
That probably is what it could be.
Nevergiveup wrote:
Well, I gues that we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
Rodan wrote:
They’re content with the fact that they fight by different rules and use our concept of “civilization” to they’re advantage.
MacDuff wrote:
1) Dropping the Atomic Bomb was a Strategic Decision that probably saved lives on both sides by ending the War without an invasion of mainland Japan.
2) The Nazis initiated the bombing of civilian cities with out regard to civilian casualties. It is hardly fair to blame the Allies for doing it better.
3) And once again, just because the Muslim are regressive animals with out a soul is no reason to lower ourselves to their level. I can assure you our Military would NEVER commit any such atrocities under any circumstances today.
@ savage
My quatloos say it’ll never happen.
The continual output of socialism and communism is human misery. No one person can manage an economic system. The way to success is to leverage the invisible hand of capitalism while governments decide what the common goods are that need some protection from capitalism.
A strong middle class is needed. Where Obama and Kim go wrong is that they want to move people into an uneducated poorer class where the elite can make the decisions unrestricted by common sense.
@ 129 MacDuff: Unfortunately violence is King in today’s media. Media drives public opinion, Public opinion drives policy.
It’s an untenable position to accept, condone, or welcome violence in ones enemy with a watered down reply from namby pamby policy wonks.
We shouldn’t play American Indian to the Muslim cowboy. If you have power use it and hold it.
@ Nevergiveup:
1) I agree, totally.
2) I never blamed the allies, in fact I never alluded to blame.
My mention of these two instances were merely to illustrate that in war, difficult and bitter decisions are made. The bombings of Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Dresden were totally justified, even in view of the loss of innocent life.
3) In fact, American military personnel are currently under the charge in the wanton killing and raping of innocent Iraqi civilians. Even in our military, there are rogues, and they should be dealt with accordingly.
Again, I am in no way JUSTIFYING GENOCIDE, on any scale, by any party. All I was saying was that, in retrospect, we all pick sides. My point was that, as I said, “barbarity leads to barbarity” and, given what I have seen of Muslim “asymmetrical” warfare and their abject disregard for human life, I can understand (not justify) the Serbian “in kind” response.
It’s more complex than “two wrongs don’t make a right”.
It’s getting late here, so forgive me if I retire from this thread…
MacDuff wrote:
Those are individual acts not the organized killing of 8,000 people in one spot at one time. Big difference.