On Friday 19 March 2010, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi invoked a prayer to St. Joseph for help in passing the Health Care debacle. Not being Catholic, I couldn’t remember who he was the patron saint of besides children’s aspirin, so I decided to check Wikipuddlia.
Here’s the entry for St. Joseph:
Further down, under Sainthood, we find this:
Here’s the pertinent paragraph enlarged.
Now click on that image. It’s on Wikipedia, so it’s got to be true… heh. My initial reaction was that some wag edited the Wiki for fun, BUT WAIT! IT’S TRUE!
From The Washington Times:
Seeking to shore up support for her embattled health bill, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi today announced it was the feast of Saint Joseph the Worker, adding “We pray to Saint Joseph to benefit the workers of America which is what our health bill would do.”
Problem is, March 19 is indeed the feast day of Saint Joseph, foster-father of Jesus. But the actual feast of St. Joseph the Worker (same man, two ways of commemorating him) comes in six weeks. Set for May 1, it was introduced by Pope Pius XII in 1955 to counteract May Day, the high holiday for communist and socialist workers.
So, Wikipedia is right, Nancy blew it twice in one fell swoop, and Joe Biden’s disease is contagious.
[Crossposted here.]
Update 3:42PM: This doesn’t look good.
[Source for Odds of Healthcare Passage as of 20 March 2010 here.]
Tags: Catholic Church, Catholicism, Communism, faux pas, Feast, idiocy, Nancy Pelosi, St. Joseph
As a good Catholic can we assume that she is pro-life?
its shit like this that convinced me to leave the catholic church years ago and join the orthodox.
If I were a Roman Catholic, I’d be laughing in her face. But I’m not, so I’ll laugh in her face even more!
This post shoulda gone up yesterday, as it’s old news today. But look at the line on the gambling odds at the bottom. That’s scary.
@ Macker:
dude, i left 15 years ago and never looked back.
educated catholic, et cetera.
Bunk X wrote:
writers need to put the date that they want posts put up.
we need better communication
Intrade has about the same figures.
Crap.
She blew it more than twice.
Catholics don’t “pray to saints.”
But then, I don’t think she was ever much of a Catholic.
@ coldwarrior:
No worries. I was gonna jump my post that went up yesterday, but it had already been posted. It’s still relevant, as I updated it earlier.
Bunk X wrote:
like i said…we need better communications
coldwarrior @ 6:
Solution ??
Just kidding.
mfhorn wrote:
Same source as the image I posted.
@ coldwarrior:
Looks like a troll to me.
Bunk X wrote:
killed, link bot shit
Well, I’m off to bed.
Another early morning playing Army tomorrow.
‘Night, everyone.
@ Bunk X:
It’ll be interesting to see how this survives court challenges.
I think the KS legislature killed a bill that would have pulled us out of ObamaCare.
lobo91 wrote:
make them all do push ups until they vomit!
@ coldwarrior:
Fucker probably lifted the whole post, too.
Bunk X wrote:
i’m looking to see what that was
it links back to tacky racoons….oddly enough
coldwarrior @ 9:
Who/what is that, it pops up every other night.
@ coldwarrior:
LOL. It was only a pingback from my site.
Meanwhile, I rediscovered this. It should be the anti-nationalization of the insurance industry fight song:
Beltfed wrote:
its a track back kinda reference thing…it links bunkx post here to his blog over there, when used, it trips our security
@ lobo91:
If Catholics don’t pray to saints then why do I see all those thanks for prayers answered in the paper?
@ Bunk X:
like i said on 23
mjazz wrote:
the saints are to be asked to intercede on behalf of the prayer for the prayee.
@ coldwarrior:
=)
coldwarrior wrote:
Like this?
@ Bunk X:
I usually save yours for the overnights. What you can do is let me know and I’ll replace the older thread with the new or leave the old up an hour and since it’s ur thread, u can step on it
Bunk X wrote:
man, i hate going down into the basement like that. there are some spooky things down there
snork wrote:
I I I I I I I I I I I I und zu weiter
i cant stand listening to the totus
Maybe Nancy can pray to this.
The Whole Universe is Crazy
– and the ‘science’ behind it.
Space, Matheson both voting no
Space? Must. Resist. Joke.
mjazz wrote:
the cassini stuff gave me a headache
coldwarrior @ 23:
Time to lay out more claymores.
snork wrote:
yeah, but those bishops just love the $$$$$$$ from the dems….fucking hypocrites.
Beltfed wrote:
well, the claymores are a bit much!
maybe a few guys with interlocking fields of fire with some 60′s….
@ Rodan:
The timing was off. By the time I finished editing, the earlier post was already up, and I saw no reason to change the lineup. It’s all good. Hot Air picked up on the thread independently, even though I scooped ‘em yesterday. BFD.
coldwarrior wrote:
Beltfed wrote:
I’d have been killed by friendly fire.
coldwarrior @ 38:
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
If it ain’t belfed, it ain’t sh*t
Beltfed wrote:
there is no song or voice as pretty as a 60
@ Bunk X:
m and rodan usually wont let me go down into the guts of the starship blogmocracy…i am no scotty.
A bit of arrogant candor….
@ Bunk X:
ahhh….the soothing dulcet tones of the ramones!
@ MacDuff:
thats just sick.
time for some gerry and the boys
Bunk X @ 41:
Stay outside the free fire zone and you’ll be fine.
But if fired upon from friendlies, fire right back over their heads and cuss like hell.
Beltfed wrote:
spoken like a true 60 gunner
coldwarrior wrote:
If they unlock the door, don’t go down there. It smells funky, and little dark shapes scamper around the rafters and snarl at you from the corners. Really. Don’t go.
Warren Zevon -- Roland The Headless Thompson Gunner
Bunk X wrote:
and it smells funny, all of those switches and dials…hell, rodan has them all in some sort of half spanish portuguese slang labels…i cant tell on from off!
I’d like to testify before Congress and, if I did, I’d like to use this speech (From “Johnny Dangerously”)
coldwarrior @ 43:
A fine Lady in need of sensual stroking.
MacDuff wrote:
FARGIN ICEHOLES!!!
classic
Beltfed wrote:
hahahaha! nice!
there is a pic of my dad in 65, in country, with him no shirt and a bayonet in his teeth that would go perfectly with your portrait!
for sunday!
G’night everybody; sleep doth beckon me…….
MacDuff wrote:
verily, upon him, as if treaded by elfs…
MacDuffb @ 54:
Lol, “Patriotic Citizens… like me”.
more lyle lovett….
@ Bunk X:
That song sure isn’t available on iTunes. You have earned a Hat Tip!
@ coldwarrior:
A volcano has erupted in southern Iceland. The eruption occurred around 11:30 p.m. Saturday beneath the Eyjafjallajokull glacier, the fifth largest glacier in Iceland. The last time the volcano erupted was in the 1820s. Climate change.
MacDuff @ 54:
Reminds me of “patriot” Lucky Luciano.
His help was sought in providing Mafia assistance to counter possible Axis infiltration on U.S. waterfronts, during Operation Avalanche, and his connections in Italy and Sicily were tapped to furnish intelligence and ensure an easy passage for U.S. forces involved in the Italian Campaign. Albert Anastasia, who controlled the docks, promised that no dockworker strikes would arise. Both during and after the war, the U.S. military and intelligence agencies reputedly also used Luciano’s Mafia connections to root out communist influence in labor groups and local governments. In return for his cooperation, Luciano was permitted to run his crime empire unhindered from his jail cell.
@ MacDuff:
“Did you know your last name was an adverb?”
Rodan wrote:
like i said…aint my gig! i know enough to just about wreck the joint
rodan, i want you to check this out:
@ Beltfed:
Perhaps that’s one reason why I enjoy fighting Communists in Mafia Wars!
coldwarrior @ 57:
Post that pic, I would love to see it.
Here’s one of our Corpsman, Doc Ferguson “Nightingale”.
Pray for our country tonight, fellow blogmocrats. Prayer is our last stand.
@ Beltfed:
who better to secure the docks than the mob.
Beltfed wrote:
i WILL scan it and get it to you. you’ll love it
Macker wrote:
Heh. Thanx for the hat tip. Email me and I’ll send you a clean .zip file.
@ coldwarrior:
Someone had a great slideshow of pics of the Rhodesian bush war set to “Roland” a while back.
Friggin youtube bastards removed it…copyright infringement or something. Wish I’d saved it.
Beltfed wrote:
what were your years and who with
My FB friend, Anna Marie Barone, keeps posting the most hopeful news…..keeps saying Fox isn’t truthful in what it says…..and other places, too……….this is her latest, posted just a couple of minutes ago”
The Osprey wrote:
love it. its funny, on my way out of the army i got an offer from the kenyan game police to go work them to hunt poachers. they were hiring us military snipers at a good tax free rate to go out with the kenyan game police and stop the rhino poaching with force.
pgh’s own donnie iris! yinz!
@ Bunk X:
Check the comment in your blog!
@ mjazz:
Billions will die! BILLIONS…
coldwarrior @ 74:
Great.
And one for a Saturday night. By the late Sam Cook.
Beltfed wrote:
i’ll get with ya, use yours, and do a post. you vietnam guys keep getting shorted
Macker wrote:
Got it. Comin’ atcha.
another year
livefreeor die wrote:
Very true. Even cynics, agnostics and atheists should say a prayer for all the little kids who will inherit this nightmare.
@ Beltfed:
oh yeah….i can sing it from memory…
@ Iron Fist:
Yeah wait until all that ice melts./
How do you embed a Youtube video here?
A friend of mine told me something rather depressing. He’s in his 60s, very conservative attorney guy.
He said the government is the government. Good cop bad cop. Party doesn’t matter. THe end game is the government wants more and more control and all the bickering and showboating is fake.
I hope he’s wrong this time because he is a lot smarter than me and knows a lot of Louisiana politicians.
Jehu wrote:
lol
http(v)
teacake wrote:
louisiana politics aint the rest of our politics.
LA is a festered swamp. the reat of the 49 aint as bad, almost, but not quite
keep your chin up.
i went upstairs, kissed my wife, thought about this song
@ Jehu:
Just put the url for the YouTube video in the text box without anything additional except the letter “v” after the http.
httpv://www.youtube.com/whatever……
Use PIMF! to check it out before you hit the submit button.
Thanks Eliana
@ coldwarrior:
Just remember that the world is run by C students.
coldwarrior wrote:
so difficult, (for us all)
But hey, I just found out some rock n roll trivia that I didn’t know until tonight. Joey Ramone of the Ramones, real name was Jerrery Hyman… LOL a Jewish boy. lol
Saw a Ramone’s documentary earlier tonight.
Bunk X wrote:
well yeah, where the hell do you think the entire profession of ‘human resources’ came from,
THOSE WHO CANNOT PRODUCE!
The documentary didn’t mention that. Ran a search on the Ramones and found that out just now.
teacake wrote:
nice!
i saw the ramones 7 or 8 times….loved it
UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has declared that Israeli settlements in the West Bank are illegal.
UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has declared that Israeli settlements in the West Bank are illegal.
“The Secretary-General, meeting with Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad during a tour of the West Bank this weekend said: “The world has condemned Israel’s settlement expansion plans in East Jerusalem. Let us be clear, all settlement activity is illegal anywhere in occupied territory and this must stop.” http://www.albuquerquenews.net/story/614462 A chill wind is blowing for Israel
@ coldwarrior:
So sad how far down this nation has slumped. Everything had to be fair, the bar was lowered and we are paying for fairness so dearly.
coldwarrior wrote:
Cool! I only saw them once.
teacake wrote:
the pendulum swings, and is equal….there will be a move away from this crap.
coldwarrior @ 78:
’67 ’68 with Delta 26th Marines.
Our regiment the 26th Marines made history, Jan to Mar ’68, first time all three battalions were together in one place since Iwo Jima.
teacake wrote:
the only band i saw more than the ramones was the grateful dead.
get your head around that
Ma Sands @ 79:
Foxnews has it
NO 215
YES 216
???????
@ MrPaulRevere:
Ya know MPR, lately I do get the feeling Israel really is toast. Beside that the world is against Israel, bullies Israel like no other nation, the pallie arab population is encroaching in a way that will make things very difficult for Israel to survive the next 20 years. Unless there really is God, and divine intervention, Israel is on the way out. I just don’t see how its possible for her to survive this ganging up on.
this is a local band with some national exposure. everyone, listen to the tune.
@ Jehu:
Whack fol the derrio
That’s the worst version of that song I’ve ever heard!
Nice choice!
@ coldwarrior:
LOL! Never saw GD! LOL maybe I was a bit too young to like them much? First time I heard about them I think I was 13, late 60s. Heard the name grateful dead and I thought… wtf? lol
From a Happier Time, Once upon a time in America
Beltfed wrote:
nice!
dad was macv, grandad was part of attache for a year in saigon in 53!
mjazz @ 91:
Great white water rafting.
coldwarrior wrote:
There has to be otherwise this country is fucked for good. Ever see the movie Idiotcracy? oh lord!
I dedicate this to the betrayers of America…hear me Obama bots?
teacake wrote:
yours truly saw the dead 10 times…along with the accouterments
@ teacake:
First off, G-d really does exist.
Second, Israel was in a far more dangerous position in 1948, 1956, 1967 and in 1973. Yet Israel is still here.
@ Jehu:
NICE!
@ teacake:
I think God is going to intervene.
@ teacake:
The world is getting crazier by the day. I have a world of admiration for Mr. Netanyahu, he must have had the patience of Job to listen to the bizarre rants of Joe Biden.
@ teacake:
You mean Jeffrey Hyman. (Johnny Ramone was a Republican!) “End of the Century” is an excellent documentary of The Ramones, and the history of punk rock in general. The Sex Pistols ruined it all.
the alarm, one of my favs
@ Eliana:
Eliana, I hope you are correct on both accounts. But it seems to me even in 73 hating Israel wasn’t so cool and trendy like it is now.
Even though I’m a Jewish gal, 100% pro Israel, etc… I’ve just never been totally convinced God exists. I would love to have that assurance. But, at 4 years old, something my mother said made me doubt it.
teacake wrote:
the pendulum is also vicious. on the back swing it will take the left.
watch the carnage.
We need this right now as the destroyer stalks our land.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
he has the patience of any politician.
@ Bunk X:
THe look on that guys face when he said they were all trouble. LOL Priceless.
Check this out…
Report: Saudi Arabia Seeks Strike on Iran
this song puts a tear in my eye. really.
the alarm, spirit of 76
@ Eliana:
That is right! And ultimately the judgment of the world comes because of how they relate to Israel, the ONLY nation in history to come back into existence, the only dead language to come back into existence truly the most remarkable events in history. World beware!
mjazz wrote:
I pray this is to be! Things haven’t been this shaky for Jews since wwII and first time for America with this low life and his creepy crew. We need a miracle!
coldwarrior @ 118:
We have many from MACV in our Veterans Association.
@ Beltfed:
Yeah….she has other sources that show Fox has been “wrong” all along, and she has proposed that it may be somewhat of an attempt to encourage whosomever….she keeps putting up these posts, has been, for these past couple of days…..
Here’s another good piece that just came my way a few minutes ago –it’s by no2liberals….. : )
http://urbangrounds.com/2010/03/the-congressional-black-caucus-screams-racism-i-call-bs/
Beltfed wrote:
he is active in several. the agent orange is killing his feet and shins tho
@ Eliana:
Very very interesting. Saudi arabia is pretty darn close to Israel geographically and Iranians aren’t arab. wow
@ Eliana:
A lot of folks who are uniformed think the ‘Muslim world’ is some sort of unified behemoth. Quite to the contrary, anyone who is well read on the subject knows the Sunni’s of SA despise the Shia regime in Iran with a passion. I said two years ago the Saudi’s would grant airspace and most likely in air-refueling to the IAF in the event of an attack on Iran.
@ teacake:
Don’t leave us hanging, what did your Mom say?
@ teacake:
If you want to believe in G-d, there is an audio series in MP3 format on Aish.com in the MP3 section called “Jewish Philosophy” with 25 lectures that can reassure you if you want to believe.
These are arguments from Maimonides around 800 years ago and they still stand.
Best wishes.
@ coldwarrior:
tears.
@ Ma Sands:
huh? kill the bill is racist? okay, i’m confused.
hi kids
@ teacake:
Off the top of my head I would say it meant denying medical care to poor blacks.
@ savage:
whaddup, boss
@ MrPaulRevere:
Iran has been bragging that it will “export” its religious revolution outside of Iran. The Arab nations are Iran’s first targets.
The Arab world was run by Turkey for 400 years. The last thing in the world the Arab world wants now is to be run by Iranian Shiites.
teacake wrote:
PBS aired it a week after I bought the DVD. Even if you don’t like the style, it’s a great documentary.
mjazz wrote:
Not exactly what she said, more of a comment to a 4 year old. LOL I drew a picture and all the sudden I said, oh! look mommy, I drew a picture of God and she said, honey, no one knows what God looks like. In my 4 year old mind I thought, oh… no tooth fairy, no Easter bunny (?) no God.
Every since that day, which I remember very well, I never could wrap my mind around the existence of God.
@ Ma Sands:
The CBC was marching in order to provoke a reaction for the cameras, Typical leftist agitprop tactics. @ teacake:
They said “kill” in the presence of a black person, ergo they are genocidal racists (CJ logic).
@ coldwarrior:
just popped in for a bit. Been busy with tons of errands and whatnot.
Bunk X wrote:
HUH?
I love documentary’s about the Ramones. Saw one tonight that they filmed themselves on tour in Europe mostly. Hilarious.
@ MrPaulRevere:
oh… but of course!savage wrote:
its that whatnot that will get you in trouble.
teacake wrote:
a human cannot wrap its mind around the existence of god.
a human can wrap its mind around the existence of a nice roux
see
mjazz wrote:
oh, got it
@ teacake:
lol
coldwarrior wrote:
ha ha
teacake wrote:
i thought i would put it in norla terms…
coldwarrior, take a look at this site and tell me what you think…
I want one!
http://www.barrett.net/firearms/model82a1
@ savage:
call me on the cell…
@ Eliana:
I really despise the Saudi government, aside from the Israeli’s there are no ‘good guys’ in the region, but one must prioritize threats and Iran is at the top of the list.
@ teacake:
Why try so high? Do you find any beauty in creation? A mountain meadow surrounded by snowy mountains, the smell of the pine forest? A mother’s love for her newborn? The beauty of a spiral galaxy majestically spinning in space? Yes there is evil, but it is our job as His sons to stand strong against evil. He has allowed for a time a world where evil seems to prevail, it is not so in the rest of the universe only here, because God is giving birth to sons with his nature through this fire.
This is truly the answer to the Holocaust of the Jews, the death of any of the righteous, though a temporary agony, once released from this body our spirits are perfected by the act, or many acts of seeing evil and resisting evil. Even this what is happening in America right now, it is not what it seems, the liberals think they are winning a new order, so did the Nazis at one time. But Israel was birthed and Nazis ceased to exist.
@ savage:
feeding and care for the barret 50….$$$
savage wrote:
I might be the only one here who doesn’t own any guns or the such. I’m still looking for a moisturizer that really helps where it counts. lol
MrPaulRevere wrote:
use their own ‘thy enemy of my enemy is my friend’ philosophy against them
@ savage:
I saw one of those at a gun show a while back, it had a muzzle brake the size of my fist.
coldwarrior @ 140:
I hope he has put in a claim with the VA, lots of our guys have problems resulting from AO, anything from Peripheral neuropathy skin rashes and a host of other ailments.
The VA has just added several other ailments related to AO including some heart problems, can’t remember the medical terms at the moment.
If he has any medical problems he should put in a claim with the VA, whether or not it’s AO or Vietnam related
Almost as good as a Barrett
@ coldwarrior:
The grand chess game. Hopefully wise people are moving the pieces.
@ Jehu:
To be honest J, there are some Jewish people I’ve known who are just very miserable in a way that other people aren’t and it makes me very embarrassed to be Jewish and makes me understand why people don’t like Jews.
My life hasn’t been all so great. Never had a boyfriend who was crazy about me and the love of my life ended up turning on me. Never had children… so, I guess its difficult to believe in much of anything.
Little bit tipsy so forgive my giving too much information.
teacake wrote:
“Ramones Raw” is the other DVD I have. I think Marky Ramone released it after the deaths of Joey, Johnny and DeeDee.
@ teacake:
Everything physical in this world has an origin – trees from seeds, seeds from earlier trees, earlier trees from earlier seeds, etc.
Everything goes all the way back to the Big Bang. Time and space are part of the physical universe that started with the Big Bang. So what came before the Big Bang? Even if you believe that other universes and other Big Bangs came before the Big Bang that we know about — what came before those universes?
It’s easy to think, “Oh, the physical world is just here.”
However, we know from physics that there is a conservation of energy and matter such that they don’t just show up out of nowhere.
The only possible way that a physical universe could be created is that it was done by Someone who isn’t a physical part of the physical world Himself. He’s not limited by time or space or anything in the physical world. He’s not limited by anything physical or time-related at all.
So the history of the universe looks like some kind of spread sheet to Him (where He sees it all at once).
No wonder we don’t know what G-d looks like.
We’re in the physical world where there are physical things.
A Being not limited by the physical world can’t be seen by physical means (such as human eyes).
@ Bunk X:
I think that’s the one I saw tonight for the 2nd time. The dive I go to puts on a movie just about every night.
savage @ 154:
The errands are not too bad but watch out for them whatnots. lol
@ Eliana:
That’s part of the problem Eliana. I think children think about things that you forget about later on… or at least the hugeness it feels like when you’re young. I would think the most common question that children have is, well, who made God? Where did “he” come from, what existed before him?
WIth or without God, its a confusing thing to wonder. No one has that answer.
@ teacake:
Talk to an Orthodox Rabbi.
They have the best training in the entire world when it comes to psychology.
If there is a Chabad House in your area, go visit them. They are the sweetest people in the entire world. Honestly.
@ Eliana:
Thanks for the lead Eliana. Not sure if there is one in New Orleans, but no doubt there is.
@ teacake:
The answer is: No one made G-d.
G-d isn’t limited by the fact that “everything has an origin in the physical world” because G-d isn’t in the physical world. Only a Being UNBOUND by the physical world could create the physical world.
@ teacake:
When people ask that I always answer that God created time.
@ teacake:
Chabad is EVERYWHERE! It’s their mission to be everywhere.
Tulane University has Chabad.
@ Eliana:
ps, I’ll only admit to this this one time. I’m 56! lol Seems a bit of time has gone by to suddenly feel differently, really feel, believe its so. Always been agnostic, I think. I don’t say God doesn’t exist, just never had the feeling its possible. But wish I had that feeling so many people have.
@ mjazz:
Eistein said that if you could put the universe in a suitcase, space and time would be in the suitcase too. They’re an inseparable part of the universe.
@ Jehu:
You have excellent taste in movies, thanks.
Eliana wrote:
Cool, thanks!
@ teacake:
You are part of the Jewish family.
Chabad would love to see you.
Please give them a chance.
Passover is coming up — an incredibly fun time to be Jewish!!
Eliana wrote:
I used to wonder about that in a way back as a little girl… how big was the universe? I’d try to imagine infinity and it would be inside of a box, but then there was always something beyond the box and I had to give up. lol The bigbang never made sense to me. And as I’ve got older, my brain just isn’t as fresh as it used to be.
I have no problem admitting I have the worst style of writing at this blog. oh well. I do enjoy reading everyone’s posts.
@ Eliana:
I’ll look them up tonight on line.
@ Eliana:
I’ve read that if the earth was 20 miles closer or 20 miles further away from the sun, life would not have been possible. The perfect placement of the earth is no accident.
What’s with the Chinese? They are pretty stupid for being smart.
@ teacake:
Teapack — it’s always fun to see you here!!
Chabad has a big organization in New Orleans overall, apparently. So they aren’t just at Tulane. There’s a website at Chabad New Orleans dot com.
Passover Seder dinner is a blast (and it’s held two nights in a row in America)!!
The story of Exodus is told, complete with plagues and all (and some dinners have little toy plastic frogs on the dinner table as a reminder). Incredibly cute!
@ teacake:
You write very well actually, I thought I was the worst writer.
@ teacake:
Yay!!
MrPaulRevere wrote:
There’s a physicist (kaukio) who said everything is lined up perfectly for life on earth – the temp, the gasses, even Jupiter’s exact placement – a few other things more that I wish I remembered at the moment.
Eliana wrote:
And the suitcase would be encompassed within itself, as it would be part of the universe as well. A Klein Bottle.
@ teacake:
I am a Christian and owe everything to the Jews. And to be a Jew will be an eternal honor because to them “were entrusted the oracles of God.” The suffering of the Jews reflects the suffering of God over sin, hatred and the evil of the fallen human nature. I too did not have much love, I had no kids, but married well into my fifties a woman from the Ukraine that has also suffered much. She has two fine sons that are now my sons.
For the most part people that have led solitary lives, or never fit in, it is because the hand of God is upon them…they will never fit into this present scheme. Look at the people that have all these human fulfillment’s, think of Hollywood, yet they are empty, empty people, they cannot find enough drugs, or sex, or self-congratulation to fill the void. Nobody, but nobody finds God without suffering, not fake suffering, but real, sometimes a lifetime of suffering.
The fact that you are even troubled about your thinking of God is evidence that He is there, it is His presence that troubles you, but God is not a spiritual thug, you must invite Him to you, His is the still small voice. Imagine all the power to create universes, yet He is also the most gentle of beings in relating to others. In some way God is almost shy and that makes Him hard to find sometimes.
@ MrPaulRevere:
What I’ve read is that the universe itself wouldn’t exist if the Big Bang (“Let there be light”) wasn’t exactly as powerful as it needed to be.
It’s like trying to thread a needle at a million miles per hour a million miles away or something. Just unbelievably precise in what was needed to make the universe work as well as it does.
@ MrPaulRevere:
Thanks! But I never would have thought that at all! I really struggle making sentences make sense and over use way too many words. lol
Eliana, will look them up now.
@ teacake:
I don’t believe it’s all an accident of science, just ‘sayin.
teacake wrote:
http://www.chabadneworleans.com/
thanks I just might give them a visit. Not too far from where I live.
@ teacake:
Great!!
Ask them about the Seder dinners coming up during Passover!
They are so much fun!!!
MrPaulRevere wrote:
i do catch the drift. But, if someone really felt that He existed, wouldn’t a person not feel totally alone in the world or that their life was all for nothing?
Eliana wrote:
@ Eliana:
I’ll do that tomorrow or Monday, I promise! I’m not obama.
@ teacake:
Chabad’s mission is to be everywhere (all over the world) for Jews.
They are incredibly friendly and sweet too!
Totally off topic but this thread has got Cooties big time!
95% CPU… 263,268K Mem Usage.
@ Eliana:
Things are to precise to have happened by chance.
@ teacake:
Glad to hear it, teacake!
{{teacake}}
@ Possum:
How’s pink doing?
@ Eliana:
okay… i’ll let you know later then. off to bed. thanks all!
@ teacake:
I tend to make my points very bluntly, I don’t believe in using 30 words to express a point one can make in 15, but that’s just me. I enjoy people who can paint pictures with words.
@ Rodan:
Actually I think he may have to get his ass in here!
Teacake
Look for a community Seder, cost $20-30.
@ MrPaulRevere:
mine feel like spaghetti. lol night!
@ teacake:
Thanks, teacake!
Take care!
@ BenZacharia:
please don’t confuse me now. lol isn’t that chabad?
really leaving now.
sweet dreams everyone
@ Beltfed:
he has
teacake wrote:
sweet dreams
The power of God revealed: At what is called the big bang, all matter and energy existed in a space about the size of an atom. It then began to expand faster than the speed of light. At some point in this initial beginning the universe had cooled enough for atoms to form from this pure violent energy, yet for every billion and one atoms formed, there was one billion atoms of anti-matter, these two kinds of matter collided and annihilated each other, the left over residue, one billionth of what we started with now forms all the galaxies and stars and planets, and us.
This paints a picture taken from Genesis where God says, “Let there be light,” and yet the power of God is so great that God had to take back almost all of that energy to produce a universe that would produce stars, and planets and us. Never underestimate God, or his power…it is total and incomprehensible to our finite minds.
@ Possum:
yep… something in this thread is really making IE8 work hard.
Possum wrote:
really?
Well, this was a good conversation, better than anything I participated in at the swamp.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
And here’s where we are in that huge Universe God created!
@ Jehu:
I read this recently in the Jerusalem Post:
The truth about suffering
teacake wrote:
The Seder, meaning ‘order’, is the name given to the Passover feast. Some congregations will have a community Seder, you just have to buy a ticket. See what their dress code is, it varies.
@ Possum:
You still use IE?
ok…this thread has cooties!
lets all migrate to the new threat…gime a minute:
@ Possum:
It may be all the embedded Youtube videos?
Rodan wrote:
What are the odds? Gotta be at least 10 to 1.
Jehu wrote:
it isnt….new thread up top
@ Possum:
Too many videos? Maybe have people link to them instead of embedding.
coldwarrior wrote:
You seeing it too?… In Firefox it has less cooties, but still is way over the CPU it should be.
mjazz wrote:
BLASPHEMY!
coldwarrior @ 220:
Great.
move it up troopies….
@ Jehu:
Morning Jehu, somehow I didn’t see your reply post to me last night. thank you
Aren’t most people “workers”? Or is she referring to a special sort of workers. Union workers? Illegal alien workers? Blue collar workers? Vote for them workers? No Tea Partyers need apply?
One people under God? Who needs that crap–Buraq Hussein Obama