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Healthcare- in 90 seconds
by m ( 218 Comments › )Filed under Elections 2010, Healthcare, Politics, Progressives at March 21st, 2010 - 9:09 am
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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
This is already obsolete. They’re not going to do Slaughter. Err, not the “Slaughter rule”, anyway.
@ snork:
Yea, it was Democrat who stopped it. http://www.rollcall.com/news/44441-1.html?CMP=OTC-RSS ht. hotair.
He wants the sure thing so it can’t be challenged until better people get elected.
@ snork:
Yeah that part is. But this is how they went about it.
And your taxes still go up, grams still loses her current medicare plan, your bosses taxes still go up and he takes it out on you, some guy in a marble building in a blue suit will tell you you have to buy approved health insurance, all while we run up debt to do it.
m wrote:
And this is just the first slice of baloney.
Kirly
The Declaration grants us this right also.
*SEE ABOVE POSTING
Sorry wrong thread, now where did I put that thing?
@ snork:
And they STILL argue that this isn’t a government takeover of health care. It boggles the mind.
m wrote:
The left has spent 40 years miseducating young minds in the classroom to not look at things like that.
We need to reclaim the schools and deprogram students. They deserve a proper education. It is vital that they understand history and government. And how important the Constitution is.
m wrote:
Untying this knot (if it makes it past the SCOTUS) is going to be a bear, but I think it can be done.
BenZacharia wrote:
wrong thread but just as applicable here.
@ snork:
only if it’s done quickly – ie, before the govt option gets into full swing. once you have a significant portion of the population on the dole, there’s no getting them off. case(s) in point, social security and medicare.
Democratic defector: Vote no quickly or get treated ‘like a piñata’
This ain’t gunna be pretty.
8. chickadee
We need to reclaim the schools and deprogram students. They deserve a proper education.
Life after school tends to wake them up, but for a large portion of the population its already to late. Once you have a generation or two hooked on govt. crack, you are not going to ween them off despite reality or consequences as the fear of the unknown will keep them in big brothers basement forever (while they suck the rest dry). All the while the demogogues keep their fear in the fore front with the “right wing boogey man going to take your benefits” tripe.
Like Ayn Rand once stated, “you’de be surprized how many people would trade free speech for free dentures.”
I just heard the vote won’t happen until 6:00 or 8:00 p.m. this evening.
They will be debating all afternoon.
My take on how we got here: 52% of our fellow citizens are uninformed fools who actually believe dependency on government is a good thing
@ Buckeye Abroad:
that slaughter beyotch must have read that too.
Kirly wrote:
Correct. And I’d love to go into a 21-gun rant here, but let’s just say that the fact that this is happening is just as much the fault of the GOP as the donkeys. Reagan talked about reforming insurance and did nothing. They’ve had 30 years anyway, in which to change tax law and create a more rational system of incentives based on the concept of catastrophic insurance coupled with MSAs. But it was never a priority.
The last chance to make this rational will be to introduce legislation that undoes this monstrosity in stages while at the same time incentivising catastrophic insurance/MSAs. If they don’t, the donkeys are going to be back, and next time, it’ll be worse.
live stream staking out the dem caucus.
live stream staking out the rep caucus
Kirly wrote:
Is dental in this bill? Does anybody on earth know what’s in this bill?
@ Kirly:
lol.
The fact these deemonrats are willing to use such inappropriate parliamentary devices to push hateful bills through says it all for me. Statist commies.
Hope and change Chicago style!
Buying Votes With Water.
It’s the new “transparency”.
Leftist scum had better not open their yaws around me for the next,oh,20 years or so.
I think not only health care but package delivery and education need to be turned over to the private sector. The private sector small and large businesses need to be turned loose on a host of services and technologies. The government should rather be focused on encouraging industries such as the semiconductor one to return to the States.
@ snork:
right, i don’t know! i was just referring to her idiotic, and quite likely fictitious, story about the poor woman who had to wear her dead sisters dentures.
Is this article for real or invented?
Sarah Palin admits as a child their family used to go to Canada for health care
vagabond trader wrote:
Yeah, my fuse is pretty short too. I have no patience for these reckless morons.
16. Kirly
that slaughter beyotch must have read that too.
Doubt if they would comprehend as one would need morals to understand that mass bondage is a bad thing. Too bad they didn’t read Hayek either. Power is the objective, duping gullable people with charity is the means.
It’s not socialism!
@ bar:
So much for Gaia.
Kirly wrote:
Possessive: dead sister’s dentures. That would make a good nic.
@ snork:
sistah choppahs
@ snork:
….not to mention a great name for a rock band.
vagabond trader wrote:
That sounds more like a video game character.
@ teacake:
Its real.
But the MSM suffers from Palin derangement syndrom so they forgot to check the facts.
Canada didnt have government healthcare back when her family went there for healthcare which was in the early 60′s IIRC. Canada didnt get government healthcare until the early 70′s.
@ vagabond trader:
@ snork:
@ Poteen:
@ Buckeye Abroad:
@ teacake:
@ waldensianspirit:
@ Kirly:
@ bar:
@ m:
@ BenZacharia:
This is all about Eugenics. This is the means through the Progressives will create their new society. Their new man or master race they have been wanting to do for over 150 since Marx called for the elimination of inferior races and people. This is what their whole agenda of control is based on.
@ MacDuff:
Thou shalt not covet thy dead sisters dentures.
@ bar:
??? So why “sneak” into Canada?
@ snork:
The bill is 2400 words long. That is like the entire Lord of the Rings plus War and Peace. It is ungodly huge, and then it is written in the arcane language of High Legalese. Nobody really knows exactly what is in it or how much it will cost, but the Democrats simply don’t care. It is a sufficient vehicle for their power grab, and everything else in it is incidental.
Iron Fist wrote:
@ Rodan:
Cannot disagree Rodan. Having worked in the medical field I am well aware of how fragile human life is and how easily vulnerable folks can be manipulated by “authority.”
Obama opposed passage of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act in Illinois. He was the only Senator in oppostion & even NARAL supported it.
It Lets you know what an evil sumbitch he is.
@ Rodan:
Our children will fight political battles against the governing class, much as we have, until all men have the equality of no future.
Our grandchildren will fight the next civil war.
‘NostraPoteen’
snork wrote:
No, silly, didn’t you hear Pelosi? We have to pass it to see what’s in it.
@ snork:
Yeah, kinda like the old pac man but with clacking dentures
@ Poteen:
Could come sooner.
@ bar:
If memory serves me correctly, her family lived in Skagway for a while before finally moving to Wasilla. There’s only one road into Skagway, and it goes into Canada. You have to drive about 400 miles through two provinces to get to Haines, AK, which is about 30 miles away.
So yes, I can imagine that. The nearest cities of any size are Whitehorse by road or Juneau by ferry.
Idiots have no way of imagining a different way of living. What small-minded twits.
@ Iron Fist:
Yea, it is like receiving a software protocol full of contradictions from someone who never writes code and didn’t provide any examples or pseudo-code illustrations.
The implementation can go to hell real quick.
vagabond trader wrote:
Very and solemnly true.
vagabond trader wrote:
I was thinking something more ambitious. Imagine Scary Harrys and Nutty Nancys dropping down from the ceiling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV1dmYhdRig
@ Iron Fist:
Exactly.
Completed the census form today, answered “Irrelevant” to all of the race questions.
@ snork:
Flapping big chattering poorly fitted dentures.
Probably not, this is “Healthcare” reform.
But I’ll bet that visits to New Age Shamans are covered as well
as counseling by Reverend Wright.
@ Rodan:
After mapping the human genome the uber-rich will be able to have designer babies.
or the anti-private sector bill.
vagabond trader wrote:
That’s the least of the scary about Nancy and Harry. And then in the final room of the game you have to defeat the Obtuse Obama by finding the Rahm behind the curtain.
From what I could stand reading, many entitlements for minorities, minority business owners, womens and child health BS,tons of wasteful feel good bullsheet, just like the porkulus.
snork wrote:
thanks for the correction. and you’re right! that woudl be a good nic!
@ teacake:
Her quote:
And from Hot Air:
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/03/08/new-palin-scandal-she-supports-canadian-socialized-medicine-or-something/
@ snork:
Rahm wearing environmentally sensitive frilly tutu and tights.
@ Kirly:
Thank you! Added to the thread.
@ Kirly:
This COOUuuld get ugly;-)
@ Rodan:
Hi, Rodan,
check your email.
@ Kirly:
They don’t care if dental is in there. They just spew crap and hope it sticks.
mjazz wrote:
What they haven’t mentioned is they need to work out the genome thermodynamics next.
teacake wrote:
teacake, you need to not believe everything you read especially about the Palin family. the media hates her and will say anything to make her look bad. there was no sneaking involved.
@ Rodan:
Could come a lot sooner. If they continue on this path, I expect the economy to collapse within the next 15 years. It’ll take some time to bring it down just because even in a recession the American economy is a mighty economic engine. But this parasite that they are grafting on to it will suck it dry and leave it a dessicated husk.
@ RIX:
Aborted babies are routinely born alive.
80 percent of graduates in France wish to work for the government. Freedom ist just a word.
They got something on Stupak Dug till the got it. ht. hotair
vagabond trader wrote:
Upding for that! The sad truth is that too many (really ALL) Congressional “bills” are no more than Trojan Horses for crap that has nothing to do with the “bill” itself. Case in point; my local perspective on the “Porkulus Bill” of which you speak.
It’s bait and switch and it’s been going on for far too long.
POLITICO Breaking News:
House Democrats have picked up critical health reform “yes” votes from a group of anti-abortion lawmakers, including Michigan Rep. Bart Stupak, according to senior Democratic aides. Democrats believe a breakthrough with Stupak’s group – based on the promise of an executive order to be issued by President Barack Obama reinforcing a ban on federal funding for abortion – will help give them the 216-vote majority needed to pass reform on Sunday.
——————————————————————————-
DEMOCRATS ASKING FOR DEFEAT
By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN
Published on DickMorris.com on March 21, 2010
The Democratic Party’s decision to deform our health care system in the name of reforming it amounts to a suicide pact. With America decrying the legislation by 60-40 margins, the legislators lined up and dutifully drank the Kool-Aid.
A few traitors who had previously passed themselves off as opponents of the legislation in the November vote turned their coats and revealed their true convictions by switching and voting no. These Congresspeople – who, at the moment, include Murphy (NY), Kosmas (Fla), Boyd (Fla), Kucinich (Ohio), Boccieri (Ohio), Nye (Va), and Markey (Col) – have made themselves special targets for our political wrath. They have painted targets on their backs with their cowardice in November and perfidy in March.
The anger of the voters at this total disregard of public opinion will power Republican candidates throughout the nation and will impel one of the greatest reversals of Congressional alignment in history.
But the aftershock of this political earthquake is yet to come. It will be upon us in the fall when Congress must decide whether to proceed with the Medicare cuts (particularly to cut in doctors’ reimbursement rates) or to postpone or cancel them and add the cost to the federal deficit.
Either they will make a shambles of Medicare or a mockery of their pretense of fiscal responsibility. The cuts would force broad swaths of the medical community – physicians and institutions – to refuse to treat Medicare patients. Their cancellation of postponement would swell the deficit and underscore the cynicism with which President Obama characterized the plan as a great deficit reduction measure.
This vote transforms the political landscape in a way that we have not seen in our lifetimes and the results will be cataclysmic for the Democratic Party. One hopes that the deals that the various members cut with the leadership to sell their votes included generous retirement packages. They’re going to need them!
vagabond trader wrote:
And you finally win when you call Rahm a humbug, which causes him to disappear into a cloud of smoke.
@ waldensianspirit:
“We want our designer babies and we want them… NOW!”
vagabond trader wrote:
Read: ACORN under its new brand.
that live stream of the reps
they just said that illegals will not have to pay the taxes but will get the healthcare because there is nothing in the bill to verify citizenship.
and amnesty is next.
This just in:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZGJiZjNiZjNlY2I4MjUxOTljMjEwNDZjMmQxNjAxYjQ=&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
and the Dem live stream now has some old white guy blathering on…. crowing… history… blah blah blah. health care for the American people. and now the hag herself.
vagabond trader wrote:
Dead on.
They’ve sucked the money out of the stock market,heavy industry, banking and now medicine is in the crosshairs. What’s next?
Better question….. whats’s left?
They have destroyed the will to work of many, now the ability to find work for many more and still politicians and people don’t get it. It’s not about ‘health care’, ‘racial equality’ or any ‘common good’.
It’s about the power inherent in spending other peoples money.
The goose is dead, there are no eggs left and they still want to make omelets.
Kirly wrote:
…..and they will be sooooo grateful to the Democrats.
pelosi crowing about using the same treasured Dingle family gavel (how the hell did they GET it??) to slam / rahm down the new health care nightmare.
Wheres a righteous lightning bolt or three when you need em?
@ vagabond trader:
IOW, keep giving me more stuff.
And now for something totally different:
Multi-millionaire Kwiksave founder gives away his £400m fortune to fulfil his promise to God
Born in North Wales to a Jewish Iraqi refugee father and an Irish Catholic mother, the young Mr Gubay cut his entrepreneurial teeth selling sweets.
@ vagabond trader:
Good Lord, if Stupak goes, it’s done. God help us.
@ Poteen:
Well said. Age old slavery, pure and simple.
@ Kirly:
Some of my lefty facebook people have that article posted to show what a hypocrite she is, lol and to prove it more, they post an article about her grandson having socialized medical care… somehow because the sleaze bag father who isn’t even married to Palin’s daughter is a smear on her and all republicans.
These leaps and bounds of “logic” makes my head spin.
It’s a beautiful day in West Texas. Is there something going on?
Iceland: volcano erupts, 500 people evacuated
Volcano Erupts Under Eyjafjallajökull
A volcanic eruption has just begun under the Eyjafjallajökull glacier. This has been verified by local authorities in neighbouring Hvolsvöllur. Vísir reports that farms in the Fljótshlíð area and by Markarhlíð are already being evacuated. Locals in the area have confirmed that they are viewing flames and a steady stream of lava from the glacier.
Eyjafjallajökull is an active central volcano. There is reportedly no recorded history of catastrophic eruptions in the area. The volcano last erupted 189 years ago and apparently caused a lot of ash fall in the area. Although speculation on the subject is pretty much useless (especially since your loving team of Grapevine reporters isn’t really comprised of geologists or anything, although we scored pretty well in the subject in high school), folks are saying that besides the ash fall the greatest danger lies in glacier bursts or runs stemming from all that hot hot heat melting the glacier. There might be a bunch of water flooding the area pretty soon.
Snip
@ Poteen:
Really. Money doesn’t just disappear into thin air. All that money lost in the retirement accounts had to go somewhere.
@ teacake:
teacake, you might wish to re-evaluate these friends.
@ Guggi:
damn that global warming
@ Guggi:
Here in the USA we have our very own volcano ready to blow.
mjazz wrote:
Money that is invested in equity is given to a business in the form of capital. The person who owns the equity owns a share of the business, and the value of the equity is based on the businesses’ ability to turn a profit, a portion of which it distributes in the form of a distribution. This ability to operate profitably is the major factor in the context of the value of a share of equity. When a business performs poorly, the value of the equity diminishes. So, at one point the equity can be worth more or less. Until it is made liquid, it only has a market value, not an actual value. That is determined when you sell it.
@ Guggi:
Not to sound unsympathetic, but I don’t give a fuck about that right now. There are more pressing issues, ya know?
Damn! I wonder if they have pictures of him & Iceweasel in bed.
You know, the beastiality thing.
Kirly wrote:
Is it 5 O’clock somewhere yet? I need a drink.
@ spidly:
and cow farts are involved without a doubt./
@ Calo:
About that in London. Think I’ll join you!
@ Calo:
The 5 PM rule has been lifted. Call it the MacDuff Ammendment.
@ Kirly:
It’s the keep your ears and eyes open about what the dark side is up to. lol They all live in Seattle. One of the main reasons I moved away from Seattle was how trendy left it had become. Terminally left.
vagabond trader wrote:
Unloaded and safely locked away,,,,, for now.
vagabond trader wrote:
If successful it will be your ruin as a free society.
You see, a long time ago the Icelanders made a pact with abominable snowman…
*the*
@ RIX:
You’re welcome. Even though I saw it before, seeing that video again still breaks me up inside.
MacDuff wrote:
I know and I’m with you.
MacDuff wrote:
+1 I really like that amendment
@ Guggi:
Au contraire. We won’t be rolling over like citizens of the EU have. Americans love a good fight and we’re armed with the Constitution.
@ imploder:
Say I loan you $1000 to, say, sell donuts, and you tell me you should be able give me back $1200. Well, you did a lousy job and can only give me back $600. That $400 went somewhere.
@ Poteen:
@ Poteen:
They are going to dismember the goose and cook it. THeir goal is the elimination of the golden eggs. Too many people aren’t sufficiently poor for the Democrats interests. They are simply trying to rectify that.
@ MacDuff:
Hungover?
@ mjazz:
Around these parts, most likely into a slot machine at one of the Indian casinos.
The DC elite mistake themselves as royalty and us as their subjects.
“Freedom dies a little bit today” – Rep. Marsha Blackburn, Tennessee, on the floor of Congress today
I’m proud of that lady. I have and will continue to support her.
The housing market is a great indicator of what happens when the government tries to “fix” the free market. All they did was cause housing prices to far outpace wages and they caused a ton of minorities to lose the very home the government was “helping them” get.
The very same thing will now happen with our private health insurance industry.
Thanks Obama, you bastard!
It’s shocking & incredibly sad.
Jill Stanek really got maligned for blowing the whitsle.
I remember back in the day, that Weasel thing screeching that the story was debunked. Her proof? Chuck said so.
As a kid, I was in that hospital on occasion, for stitches & broken bones, that kind of thing.
As an adult it creeped me out when I found out what they have become.
mjazz wrote:
Someone ate $400 worth of inventory? Did you give those donuts to CJ to sell?
@ vagabond trader:
They are buying back their land with our money.
@ teacake:
and yet you continue to have these idiots invade your mind. you post a few comments like that (“is this real???”) and you’ve been here for some time. you’ve had many responses to those inquiries reminding you of the lies of the left. you’re fully equipped to fight this fight. use your brain! you already know the answers! you can take ‘em!
@ grambo:
We have some terrific conservative woman in our corner,plus I’m hearing a bunch more of both genders are lining up to run in November. We need them!
@ vagabond trader:
You know the economy is bad when the casinos start laying off.
@ Iron Fist:
Its that economic justice thingy… the plan appears to make us all down to the level of those who demand “justice” – the assholes don’t realize their situation is just going to get worse, but as long as everyone else now suffers, they will be happy.
vagabond trader wrote:
You are fortunate, we don’t have a constitution. Only a treaty for a constitution which no one understands.
vagabond trader wrote:
But the ammo (the SCOTUS) is pretty wet.
MacDuff wrote:
//get a grip man
@ mjazz:
We’d gladly sell them ours for fair market value.
mjazz wrote:
Not yet.
@ Iron Fist:
This is the continuation of the war on the middle class that started under LBJ’s Great Society Program.
Today they will inflict serious damage & they are not done.
The 2010 elections need to be a crusade.
@ Guggi:
That is a pity.I Have the Declaration of Independence and Constitution in front of me. Its all in an easy to understand booklet, a mere 42 pages long. Too bad the fools we elect haven’t read it.
RIX wrote:
you are absolutely right. they ARE indeed attempting to implement the rest of FDRs list of rights. and they are succeeding.
you’re also right that 2010 needs to be a crusade. and i do not flinch from using that word.
@ teacake:
Teacake, it’s all a matter of geography and the practicalities of transportation. Palin’s family lived in Skagway, Alaska. The town is a seaport, and the terminus of the White Pass and Yukon railway, which was built to access the Klondike goldfields. Whitehorse is on the rail line.
Skagway had no hospital at the time; maybe it still hasn’t. So residents needing hospital care had to choose between taking a boat or plane to Juneau, or taking the train to Whitehorse. If severe weather was happening, the boat or plane trip could be difficult or impossible, but the train nearly always got through.
Canada’s Medicare system was enacted in the early ’60s, IIRC, but it does not cover non-residents. So Palin’s family would have paid cash on the barrelhead for such treatment as they got.
It’s a complete non-issue. The leftards are trying to paint Sarah Palin as a hypocrite for benefiting from Canada’s socialized medicine while opposing it for all Americans, but that is a complete lie.
Ironically, here in Canada, Premier Danny Williams of Newfoundland is being painted as a hypocrite (accurately, IMHO) for having traveled to the USA to have stents installed in his arteries, instead of going onto a waiting list to have the procedure in Canada.
@ Kirly:
I’m not stupid, but I’m not a super intellect either. The article was based on fact as was told here, but certain things altered and I really didn’t know where to find the source…. which I was smart enough to know, that people here could lead to that.
From December, but apropos.
@ Calo:
Lol! Well, he did have a successful blog and all…
FNC showing the dems walking over to make their vote. smiling like idiotic sheep being led to the slaughter.
@ teacake:
hustled not sneaked, no passport maybe? or hustle as in made in haste.
BTW no gummint HC in ’60s
Unless I’m mistaken, The Journal was just approved.
How does this relate to the HCB?
Anyone know?
@ Alberta Oil Peon:
thank you for the info
teacake wrote:
don’t sell yourself short. you’re smart enough to be here! you can take ‘em!
@ BenZacharia:
I’m wondering if I dare post these things to their comments? Thing is I really don’t like confrontations and the illogical come backs they attack with.
@ Guggi:
Where do you live?
mjazz wrote:
They’ve taken money for social security, medicare, unemployment, work comp. ad infinitum. Supposedly into trust or insurance accounts. Instead it’s spent buying ‘vote by dependency’ political support.
We the people, as a group, have been stupid. We elect based on promises and popularity rather than performance and fidelity. Same as the Romans and Greeks. That is our future. At this point, necessary change is unlikely.
‘WE’ deserve what we have.
mjazz wrote:
I think most of have wondered the same thing, and asked a couple times with no reply.
@ Alberta Oil Peon:
You can just die waiting.
Kirly wrote:
Sheep, or malevolent wolves?
Canada Health Act 1984
I despise that man hungry hag Maureen Dowd.
MacDuff wrote:
idiotic sheep led by a few malevolent wolves.
@ teacake:
Delete them and save yourself the aggravation? Jerks like that are unworthy of your attention and if they are not tied to you by blood or deed,why put yourself through it?
@ snork:
I would say where there is no free market the black market takes over to meet demands, which is even more injurious to the moral character.
40 mph wind from North
snow
32 F
Old cows and new calves all in the southwest fence oorners balwing their lungs out for hay and cotton seed cake.
Better get in the old 1980 4 wheel and drag ass out in this cold ass shit and feed them.
Could be I’ll switch to Democrat if the commie’s would just cover the health care of my old cows.
The uber dangerous Wal-Mart pager has been arrested, 16 year old ass. In other news, Black Panthers who intimidated voters still free. HT Eric ‘The Red’ Holder
Live from the house floor right now. ryan.
@ BenZacharia:
Heh,I feel so much safer now./
omg! slaughter on the floor right now. the speaker called her “young lady from new york”. that old hag??!!!
she had the nerve to say “let’s stop wasting time of parliamentary loop holes”!!!!! she’s the queen beyotch of the parliamentary loop hole. hypocrit.
@ taxfreekiller:
Poor ole moo moos.
BenZacharia wrote:
See what he was charged with? “Bias intimidation”? How does one intimidate a bias?
Kirly wrote:
Compared to the speaker…
ryan is kicker slaughter around the floor of the HoR with facts and figures.
btw, this is also live on C-Span weekend. ch2 on my cable.
@ Kirly:
Had my hopes up for a minute.
Yeah, the term is loaded & that’s why I used it.
We need to go all Crusade on em & then get rid of
that mob in the White House in 2012.
@ BenZacharia:
LOL
ryan said the CBO told him that middle class taxes would go up to 63% and that on businesses would be 88% by the time his 5, 6, and 8 year old children were tax payers.
@ Kirly:
Live live? Watching now but so hard to know.
Just to break the tension, here’s what Americans do:
snork wrote:
If he’s beaten or killed by New Black Panthers, will it be a hate crime?
BenZacharia wrote:
That just set off the alarm bell at the funny farm.
Poteen wrote:
That comes under “social justice”.
rep. patrick kennedy invoking dead ted kennedy.
does this idiot even have in indoor voice?
mjazz wrote:
When I was a teenager, we lived in Europe and the black market thrived. My dad, who worked for a major American company, use to pay employees in clothes and furniture purchases to get them to work overtime as the tax rates were so punitive. I also had a friend (not an American) who loved to “game the system” by working for three months and then go on unemployment for 9 months and go on traveling sprees. Mind you, I was a teen at the time, but it still left a bad taste in my mouth for socialism.
Kirly wrote:
And I’m supposed to care exactly why?
@ RIX:
I agree. This bill tells us everything we need to know about President Obama and his core beliefs. That being said, despite what we may feel about this bill, it is equally despicable and wrong for the demonstrators outside the Capitol to call Congresspeople racist names. I hope it didn’t really happen but we should make sure not to sink to Obama’s level.
@ teacake:
yes, the live stream at FNC is just a few seconds out of sync with what is noted as LIVE on cspan.
Kirly wrote:
I’ve been watching Ryan; he’s been a major point man on this issue and has been fighting the good fight.
snork wrote:
no, you’re not. i was just reporting it. and that he’s a moron who thinks screaming gets his point across somehow.
Um, Hoops let me help ya. You made less money! There was no Obama tax cut.
Snork
If he’s beaten or killed by New Black Panthers, will it be a hate crime?
No, it will have been for his own good, and an accident to boot.
Eric
vagabond trader wrote:
LOL, ‘man hungry hag’
Kirly wrote:
Seriously, didn’t he appoint himself the patron pol of the mentally ill?
Oh cmon. I bet $50 bucks right now that any racist name callers are plants by the DNC.
I hear you. If it actually hyappened & it sure may have, there is no
excuse. Not only is it just wrong, it’s used to tar the entire movement.
RIX wrote:
I think you just discovered the next donkey talking point. Reduced hours and unemployment reduces taxes paid, ergo “the Obama tax cut”.
@ Kirly:
Goebbels taught that one to Hitler. It worked till Eisenhower spoke a little louder.
FOX live stream keeps freezing. darn
never mind, cspan works better
Did he mention that Teddy quit drinking?
Kirly wrote:
The whole thing is an outrage. All these bastards know full well that gov’t will NOT give us adequate Health Care. It will not happen. Gov’t has failed at every entitlement program they have promised.
How stupid the voters are to expect anything but trouble from these charlatans. Higher taxes, less freedom, more restrictions, more intrusion. . . . nothing good for the hapless people waiting on the couch.
rep chaka fattah (real person and name) just invoked “this easter season”. pig.
I could see it. “You pay less in taxes & have more leisure.”
@ chickadee:
that’s the problem. stupid voters. uninformed voters. apathetic population allows these statist pigs to take their G-d given rights to self determination.
they are recording the vote on the rule right now. by electronic device. too bad that’s not a roll call vote. bastards.
@ Kirly:
my bad. this is a vote on “Will The House Now Consider The Resolution”. something rep ryan was doing.
RIX wrote:
Ya know, I’ll pay less taxes this year than last because I’m unemployed at 57 in a state where the unemployment rate is 10.7%.
Yeah, Obama is a friggin genius. Is there some sort of CO leak over there that’s killing their brain cells, or is it just a side effect of the willful and regular sniffing of Charles’ farts?
kansas wrote:
I would say that’s likely. Especially seeing that there’s no video/audio of the “incident”. You don’t think the tea parties are crawling with SEIU spies?
RIX wrote:
Funemployment! They already thought of that.
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Her claim to fame is that she did Peter Jennings.
Ok , so he got drunk. I can just see him waiting for Dowd to fall asleep, so that he could tip toe out.
Yeah baby, underemployment is fun!
@ RIX:
Wait til his taxes double, but he’ll have the honor of paying for the healthcare of his feckless 1.0 fellow losers.
RIX wrote:
You know, the stupidity never ceases to amaze me. $38.00 per month? Seriously? What a visionary.
Meanwhile, here in Philadelphia, a bastion of lefty intellect, they are looking to add a 2 cent tax to every ounce of sugary soda. 12 ounce can, another 24 cents. A 64 liter bottle? $1.28. Hell, how many bottles do you think people will buy when the cost of a 2 liter more than doubles in price?
The sheer eagerness for the kool-aid being ingested over there knows no bounds. I have no idea of what a hoosier’s annual income would be, but I am pretty sure once Obama plans to eliminate the Bush tax cuts in 2011, he can kiss that $38.00 goodbye. Did he also forget, Obama mentioned he was agnostic towards his claim of not passing a tax increase on that $250,000 mark either?
The pseudo-intellectual, kumbaya Obama circle-jerk is bereft of anything resembling grade school economics over there.
“Well all I know is I have this extra $38.00 dollars per month now that I did not have before, and life is great”
Oh, your electric bill went up? Oh, your gas bill went up? Oh, you fuel bill went up? Oh, we are sending our children into financial indentured servitude as far as the eye can see, in order to score political points, put more people on the public dole, and chase business away from this country?
It blows my fucking mind.
vagabond trader wrote:
Aren’t you assuming something about his potential?
@ Formercorpsman:
3.8 trillion updings.
@ RIX:
Gaaaaaaaaah! Drink indeed!
@ Formercorpsman:
These are the same people, who for the longest time claimed to be fiscal conservatives, who had a problem with the social aspect of of conservatism.
Good lord, the common sense has evaporated. It might be called the Huffington Post, but they sure as hell are huffing on something.
I’m thinking of the Bugs Bunny cartoon, “A feather in his Hare” with the Indian.
Hoosier: Tax cuts? How do you makum tax cuts wit da biggest budget eveh?
LGF: Well you see Hoosier Hoops, it is patriotic to pay more taxes….
@ Formercorpsman:
Servile useful idiots.
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re: #232 eclectic infidel
While I wait for the page to load, thought I’d mention that I received an email from a friend who claims that Obama Administration is orchestrating an arms embargo against Israel. Has anyone heard about this?
Yes. We talked about it here a couple nights ago. Basically, it appears that some website made something up, or misinterpreted a JINSA report.
There is no embargo.
One last thing. Obviously, I have now made the mistake of reading over there, and my brain just hurts now. Since there is one way to answer stupidity, here goes: (It is futile, I know)
As someone who feels they support Israel, (hell, it is in your nic) you need to open your eyes as to the degrading situation of diplomatic ties between the United States, and Israel.
Open your damn eyes, and recognize that we just excoriated Israel for building apartments. Yes, apartments. That dastardly act of defiance, thumbing her nose to the world, her agreement to the United Nations, and every other act against humanity. How dare they build more housing? Bastards.
Yet, we ask for unclenched fists, all the while Iran is in violation of her agreement to the IAEA, as well as the United Nations.
In 2008, we agreed to allow Israel to purchase some serious munitions, obviously on the heels of the Lebanon war, this threat was front and center.
Well, they are going to protect Diego Garcia now. What will be the excuse when we deny them the ability to fly over Iraqi air space?
The facts are right in front of you, yet you refuse to acknowledge them. you refuse. We are tying Israel’s hands. The administration is solely responsible.
We got tough with them over some fucking apartments. You would think a covert nuclear weapons program would at least draw the same ire.
I guess not.
@ Formercorpsman:
My portion should have been:
One last thing. Obviously, I have now made the mistake of reading over there, and my brain just hurts now. Since there is one way to answer stupidity, here goes: (It is futile, I know)
As someone who feels they support Israel, (hell, it is in your nic) you need to open your eyes as to the degrading situation of diplomatic ties between the United States, and Israel.
Open your damn eyes, and recognize that we just excoriated Israel for building apartments. Yes, apartments. That dastardly act of defiance, thumbing her nose to the world, her agreement to the United Nations, and every other act against humanity. How dare they build more housing? Bastards.
Yet, we ask for unclenched fists, all the while Iran is in violation of her agreement to the IAEA, as well as the United Nations.
In 2008, we agreed to allow Israel to purchase some serious munitions, obviously on the heels of the Lebanon war, this threat was front and center.
Well, they are going to protect Diego Garcia now. What will be the excuse when we deny them the ability to fly over Iraqi air space?
The facts are right in front of you, yet you refuse to acknowledge them. you refuse. We are tying Israel’s hands. The administration is solely responsible.
We got tough with them over some fucking apartments. You would think a covert nuclear weapons program would at least draw the same ire.
I guess not.
Rodan wrote:
looooooooooooooooooooooooool
spacejesus wrote:
you’re a sick freak laughing at the murder of millions.
@ Kirly:
@ spacejesus:
Shut up, Space Jesus and good for you, Kirly! Does Charles know you’re posting here? I hope he finds out so that you land in Kirly’s book of the banned. That would be sweet revenge for your uncaring attitude, spacejesus.
Kirly wrote:
and you are brain damaged for thinking health care reform is intended to be some kind of holocaust.
@ spacejesus:
The only ‘reform’ is that the federal government becomes the ‘insurance company’. With the failures at social security and medicare, you are stupid to think the gov’t can run anything to do with health care or insurance.
@ spacejesus:
No, you are a moron. What you, and your ilk absolutely refuse to acknowledge are the more than uncomfortable relationships between those with ability to usurp Constitutional rights via an underhanded legislative process, anathema to the very people who placed their lives on the line for our Republic, and those who megalomania run the course.
Just because folks like Holdren, claim to distance themselves from their dire warning of cataclysmic prediction, only to be answered with far cataclysmic solutions, does not make the argument off the mark.
Go ahead, forget the past. The past would love that.
@ space cadet:
You are right, there is no monetary incentive for the government to deny medical care to old sick folks who are a big drain on the welfare system and are no longer “productive” as in paying taxes type of citizens.
And that’s why all countries that have socialized medicine also have “right to die” laws, cause there is no monetary incentive in doing that, its about dignity or something.
And those liquor and cigarette taxes known as a sin tax, they are there just for shits and giggles. Cause again there is no monetary incentive in discouraging such behaviors.
It must suck to be quite as dumb as space cadet. But then ignorance is bliss.