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It is not illegal to be a moron in this country.

by Bunk X ( 249 Comments › )
Filed under Health Care, Healthcare, Humor, Open thread, Socialism at March 21st, 2010 - 8:30 pm

This is your brain:

This is your Brain on Congress:

Any Questions?


“Congratulations, Mr. President. You’ve just fucked over the insurance industry and the American people at the same time. Brilliant.”

[This is an open thread.]

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249 Responses to “It is not illegal to be a moron in this country.”
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  1. MrPaulRevere
    1 | March 21, 2010 20:31

    Don’t get mad. Get even.


  2. snork
    2 | March 21, 2010 20:33

    It is not illegal to be a moron in this country.

    No, but it should be made very, very painful.


  3. song_and_dance_man
    3 | March 21, 2010 20:40

    It is not illegal to be a moron in this country.

    yet we may soon have mental health care to deal with it.

    bbiab, must go and work the fields (healthcare funded, no less) to find the stoopid tree from which these fruits fell, and then burn them.


  4. 4 | March 21, 2010 20:40

    “The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it’s limitations”-Einstein


  5. 5 | March 21, 2010 20:41

    Morons running our nation is dangerous.


  6. MrPaulRevere
    6 | March 21, 2010 20:41

    It would be nice if we had an American President that had as much hostility toward Ahmadinejad as he has toward insurance companies.


  7. savages_girl
    7 | March 21, 2010 20:41

    Good night folks. Tomorrow is a new day (and a work day, so gotta get ready for bed)…


  8. Possum
    8 | March 21, 2010 20:43

    As this is an open thread….

    Our “The Feasts of St. Joseph” thread still has cooties, and I can’t for the life of me find out why.

    I keep looking everytime I get a sober few minutes. Um, at the moment I am not looking!

    Anyway, it is my pet project for the next few days, so admins I respectfully ask you to not do anything to it.

    Thanks! (Burrrrp… hic….)

    :)


  9. 9 | March 21, 2010 20:45

    Mostly true

    Stupidity cannot be cured with money, or through education, or by legislation. Stupidity is not a sin, the victim can’t help being stupid. But stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death, there is no appeal, and execution is carried out automatically and without pity.


  10. Sean Galt
    10 | March 21, 2010 20:47

    I can only bide my time until the Nov. midterms. I think the MSM’s heads will do a “scanners”. It’ll make 1994 look tame.


  11. lobo91
    11 | March 21, 2010 20:49

    “We proved this government of the people, and by the people, still works for the people.”

    Well, at least the 35% who wanted this…


  12. song_and_dance_man
    12 | March 21, 2010 20:49

    Is that a new plug on Bidens forehead or just a fly.


  13. Sean Galt
    13 | March 21, 2010 20:50

    Wow. Wait for that tax bill to arrive after this kicks in!


  14. 14 | March 21, 2010 20:50

    I just wish the insurance companies hadn’t decided to back this crap in the name of short term profits, instead of looking at the long term damage to their industry.


  15. 15 | March 21, 2010 20:50

    @ Sean Galt:

    Ivan, Juan and Ian also work.


  16. 16 | March 21, 2010 20:51

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    It’s a mark!


  17. 17 | March 21, 2010 20:52

    good night fellow doomed ones.


  18. mjazz
    18 | March 21, 2010 20:53

    @ Possum:
    The threads are taking a long time to refresh today.


  19. The Osprey
    19 | March 21, 2010 20:53

    Possum wrote:

    As this is an open thread….

    Our “The Feasts of St. Joseph” thread still has cooties, and I can’t for the life of me find out why.

    Maybe it just needs a few asprin.


  20. Beltfed
    20 | March 21, 2010 20:53

    A drunk wakes up the next morning and he’s sober.
    A stupid politician wakes up the next morning and he’s still stupid.


  21. song_and_dance_man
    21 | March 21, 2010 20:53

    We can only hope Americans will see through this sham done on the first day of the week during the Easter and Passover commemorations.

    I have never seen B. Hussein so smug since he was elected.


  22. Sean Galt
    22 | March 21, 2010 20:54

    @ BenZacharia:
    I used to be just “Sean” at another place in a friendlier time…


  23. Doppelganger
    23 | March 21, 2010 20:54

    220 communist pig scumbags need to lose their jobs dome November

    Stupac, you first. SELLOUT SLIMEBAG


  24. 24 | March 21, 2010 20:55

    Mars wrote:

    I just wish the insurance companies hadn’t decided to back this crap in the name of short term profits, instead of looking at the long term damage to their industry.

    Even corporate citizens are capable of treason.


  25. snork
    25 | March 21, 2010 20:55

    @ Possum:
    Just a guess: that thread has a lot of youtubes. IE may choke on a lot for some reason.


  26. song_and_dance_man
    26 | March 21, 2010 20:56

    I seriously doubt b. Hussein’s benediction of ‘God bless America’.


  27. lobo91
    27 | March 21, 2010 20:57

    Geraldo’s really grasping at straws in his effort to make Obama into something other than a Chicago thug.


  28. lobo91
    28 | March 21, 2010 20:58

    “I’ve got a million questions about how it’s going to be paid for.”

    Hey, here’s a thought: Maybe you should have brought those questions up BEFORE they passed the fucking bill, you dumbass.


  29. Et Norsk Troll
    29 | March 21, 2010 20:58

    Sean Galt wrote:

    Wow. Wait for that tax bill to arrive after this kicks in!

    Hello, I’m from the IRS: I’ll need everyone to put all their money in the bag before leaving this site.

    Thanks!

    Be back next year.


  30. Doppelganger
    30 | March 21, 2010 20:59

    Geraldo, you really are a moron


  31. 31 | March 21, 2010 21:00

    I just read some dumbass claiming this changed millions of peoples lives. I guess my mother going to jail because she can’t afford healthcare, makes too much to get public assistance, and her boss is not required to offer healthcare due to small number of employees; this does qualify as change.
    Plus I guess I’m headed to jail too. I have VA medical, but can only get sick during office hours M-F. So since I can’t get public assistance, and am unemployed, means that as soon as I try to get medical help, I go to jail too.

    Change you can believe in.


  32. mjazz
    32 | March 21, 2010 21:00

    I’m no conspiracy theorist but then again maybe I’m just stupid.


  33. newsjunkie_ky
    33 | March 21, 2010 21:01

    I am just sick. Did any R vote yea?


  34. Doppelganger
    34 | March 21, 2010 21:01

    They’ve forgotten Scott Brown

    we need to remind them


  35. chickadee
    35 | March 21, 2010 21:01

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    We can only hope Americans will see through this sham done on the first day of the week during the Easter and Passover commemorations.

    I have never seen B. Hussein so smug since he was elected.

    He’s smug because he has pleased his puppet masters.


  36. song_and_dance_man
    36 | March 21, 2010 21:02

    Fox needs to rid themselves of Geraldo Revolver. I think he has a hard on right now.


  37. lobo91
    37 | March 21, 2010 21:02

    @ Mars:

    I just read some dumbass claiming this changed millions of peoples lives.

    It’s certainly going to change the lives of the employees of all those health insurance companies that are going to be forced out of business.


  38. 38 | March 21, 2010 21:02

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    I seriously doubt b. Hussein’s benediction of ‘God bless America’.

    Unless he specifically states “the G-d of Abe, Ike and Jake” I will assume he is invoking Stan aka allah/Molech/Ashtoreth/et al.


  39. lobo91
    39 | March 21, 2010 21:03

    @ newsjunkie_ky:

    I am just sick. Did any R vote yea?

    Not a one.


  40. 40 | March 21, 2010 21:05

    @ lobo91:

    Geraldo really is spinning.


  41. Doppelganger
    41 | March 21, 2010 21:05

    Never in the History of America has a bigger dumbfuck served as Speaker of the House


  42. chickadee
    42 | March 21, 2010 21:05

    newsjunkie_ky wrote:

    I am just sick. Did any R vote yea?

    Hey {newsjunkie_ky), I feel sick too. I just can’t believe this is happening.
    Now’s the time for us to come out swinging.


  43. song_and_dance_man
    43 | March 21, 2010 21:10

    @ chickadee:

    His masters are unknown, but I would surmise the groupthink slaves of the god of this world.


  44. mjazz
    44 | March 21, 2010 21:13

    Maybe he is a satanist. They do exist.


  45. 45 | March 21, 2010 21:14

    Rodan wrote:

    Morons running our nation is dangerous.

    The world is run by C students. This country is no exception.


  46. 46 | March 21, 2010 21:15

    It is not illegal to be a moron in this country.

    Illegal? Actually, moronism seems to be a growth industry.

    Did anyone hear the Democrat Congrescritters this evening? Morons, the lot of them, but well paid.

    Hollywood. Need I elaborate?

    Michael Moore is not only a moron, but a slovenly unkempt one, but quite wealthy.

    Morons ran GM and Chrysler into the ground, and were paid $Hunreds of Millions for their services.

    In the financial industry, morons made large loans to people with no money, for homes they could not afford (encouraged by the aforementioned Congressional morons) and made a tidy sum for their services as well.

    Being unemployed, I think that exhibiting some moronic traits may well be to my advantage. I’m not looking for anything major, perhaps just “Asst. Moron” at some smaller company. I’m willing to learn, but it seems they always want experience. I’m sure if I could get an interview, I could supress my intellect and give some moronic answers.

    Is there yet a book out called “Moronism for Dummies”?


  47. snork
    47 | March 21, 2010 21:16

    Doppelganger wrote:

    Never in the History of America has a bigger dumbfuck served as Speaker of the House

    And she pulled it off anyway.


  48. 48 | March 21, 2010 21:16


    Possum

    wrote:

    As this is an open thread….
    Our “The Feasts of St. Joseph” thread still has cooties, and I can’t for the life of me find out why.
    I keep looking everytime I get a sober few minutes. Um, at the moment I am not looking!
    Anyway, it is my pet project for the next few days, so admins I respectfully ask you to not do anything to it.
    Thanks! (Burrrrp… hic….)

    Ain’t no cooties there, except for a lotta embedded videos. Quit looking at it and it’ll go away.


  49. song_and_dance_man
    49 | March 21, 2010 21:17

    BenZacharia
    Unless he specifically states “the G-d of Abe, Ike and Jake” I will assume he is invoking Stan aka allah/Molech/Ashtoreth/et al.

    He is not the protectorate of the righteous for sure. Your mention of the creatures that require obeisance to the idols of the Ishmael inclined is quite appropriate.


  50. newsjunkie_ky
    50 | March 21, 2010 21:17

    chickadee wrote:

    newsjunkie_ky wrote:
    I am just sick. Did any R vote yea?
    Hey {newsjunkie_ky), I feel sick too. I just can’t believe this is happening.
    Now’s the time for us to come out swinging.

    {chickadd} I think we need a group hug. I am now officially afraid of my government.


  51. mjazz
    51 | March 21, 2010 21:18

    @ MacDuff:

    Morons ran GM and Chrysler into the ground, and were paid $Hunreds of Millions for their services.

    In the financial industry, morons made large loans to people with no money, for homes they could not afford (encouraged by the aforementioned Congressional morons) and made a tidy sum for their services as well.

    Yeah, I don’t get it. When I fuck up royally, I get fired.


  52. lobo91
    52 | March 21, 2010 21:18

    @ MacDuff:

    Being unemployed, I think that exhibiting some moronic traits may well be to my advantage. I’m not looking for anything major, perhaps just “Asst. Moron” at some smaller company. I’m willing to learn, but it seems they always want experience. I’m sure if I could get an interview, I could supress my intellect and give some moronic answers.

    I’m right there with you.


  53. newsjunkie_ky
    53 | March 21, 2010 21:19

    newsjunkie_ky wrote:

    chickadee wrote:
    newsjunkie_ky wrote:
    I am just sick. Did any R vote yea?
    Hey {newsjunkie_ky), I feel sick too. I just can’t believe this is happening.
    Now’s the time for us to come out swinging.
    {chickadd} I think we need a group hug. I am now officially afraid of my government.

    You see how bad I feel? I can’t even do a simple task. {chickadee}


  54. mjazz
    54 | March 21, 2010 21:19

    @ newsjunkie_ky:
    I got scared when they said the IRS was going to start “enforcing”.


  55. song_and_dance_man
    55 | March 21, 2010 21:19

    newsjunkie_ky wrote:

    I am just sick. Did any R vote yea?

    None on any vote other than the earlier procedural votes. And that was just one.


  56. lobo91
    56 | March 21, 2010 21:20

    Why the hell are they talking about that stupid executive order Obama agreed to sign?

    It has almost as much meaning as all those states that passed laws pretending to ban Obamacare.

    In other words, zero.


  57. FishOrCutBait
    57 | March 21, 2010 21:21

    It is not illegal to be a moron in this country.

    True and sometimes you can even become the VP of the United States of America!


  58. snork
    58 | March 21, 2010 21:22

    Democrats to America: Drop dead


  59. mjazz
    59 | March 21, 2010 21:23

    The creepiest administration ever. Someone recently said “Obama is the first post-American President.


  60. Goodbye_Natalie
    60 | March 21, 2010 21:24

    Have no fear my compatriots. As the brave John Paul Jones once said, “I have not yet begun to fight!”

    Everyone recall their history. It took several months before we won our first battle after Pearl Harbor – keep the faith. However, the Japanese Admiral Yamamoto was much brighter than our inane lackey for President.

    “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.”

    Now, convince your family and friends to get off their collective asses, get involved, make their voices heard, and break the will of the Democratic party. If 50MM strong tell them to kiss our collective ass, it doesn’t matter what they pass.

    This is the beginning of the end for liberalism and we will look over the charred remains of liberals when this is through.


  61. FishOrCutBait
    61 | March 21, 2010 21:25

    WTF happened to Walter?

    75 Walter L. Newton Sun, Mar 21, 2010 8:15:07pm replyquote

    * 1
    * down
    * up
    * report

    re: #62 wlewisiii

    One can pray for that to be the way it works out. Single payer is what we really need.

    William

    Total nationalized health care is what we need. No private medical business what so ever. All government employees and everyone, from street person to the President get the exact same considerations for health care. That’s the only fair and equalizing way to do it. If every man is created equal, then it should be equal.


  62. lobo91
    62 | March 21, 2010 21:28

    @ FishOrCutBait:

    Yeah, that’s worked really well in the UK…


  63. MrPaulRevere
    63 | March 21, 2010 21:29

    This vote is a relief actually, I’m glad it’s over. Maybe now I can get a good nights sleep and my blood pressure will return to normal.


  64. MrPaulRevere
    64 | March 21, 2010 21:30

    @ FishOrCutBait:
    Walter L. Newton is a stooge and a punk who will say or do anything to keep his posting rights on an obscure blog. A real man of character.


  65. lobo91
    65 | March 21, 2010 21:30

    @ MrPaulRevere:

    This vote is a relief actually, I’m glad it’s over. Maybe now I can get a good nights sleep and my blood pressure will return to normal.

    I’ll get a good night’s sleep after I get a job.

    Which is probably significantly less likely to happen now.


  66. 66 | March 21, 2010 21:31

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    Being unemployed, I think that exhibiting some moronic traits may well be to my advantage. I’m not looking for anything major, perhaps just “Asst. Moron” at some smaller company. I’m willing to learn, but it seems they always want experience. I’m sure if I could get an interview, I could supress my intellect and give some moronic answers.
    I’m right there with you.

    Yes, I recall. Late 40s, and you’ve gotten nary a nibble, right? There’s something very wrong in this country. Not only the unemployment rate, but what I percieve as age discrimination.


  67. mjazz
    67 | March 21, 2010 21:33

    @ FishOrCutBait:
    Yeah, that’s the ticket, we all get Congress’ health care plan./


  68. 68 | March 21, 2010 21:33

    Now all we need is for Soros to go ahead with his plan to crash the derivatives market and it will be lights out and no chance of return to freedom by human endeavor.

    Nytol


  69. chickadee
    69 | March 21, 2010 21:34

    @ newsjunkie_ky:
    The dems who foisted this travesty on us know it is not going to work. They see what is going on with medicaid and medicare. How are all the pitfalls, graft, mismanagement and incompetence in those small programs going to magically disappear and the new massive entitlement health care system for 300 million people is then going to run smoothly and effectively and save money. roflmao.
    And we are supposed to trust these grifters? Who have fcked every social program they have sold us.

    They are going to continue to suck more and more from us and leave us with Health care not worth having.
    It never was abt. Health care. It was always abt. power and redistribution of wealth. And the fcking grifter-n-chief freely admitted it. fck the idiots who just smiled and voted for him anyway.


  70. lobo91
    70 | March 21, 2010 21:34

    @ MacDuff:

    Yes, I recall. Late 40s, and you’ve gotten nary a nibble, right? There’s something very wrong in this country. Not only the unemployment rate, but what I percieve as age discrimination.

    Yup. Whenever things do start to turn around, people like us are going to be the last ones hired.

    The 20-somethings who have no experience are much cheaper.


  71. Calo
    71 | March 21, 2010 21:36

    @ lobo91:

    Or, they are afraid that your experience will put you in their chair soon after they hire you.


  72. snork
    72 | March 21, 2010 21:36

    Wow. This from Megan McArdle?

    If you don’t find that terrifying, let me suggest that you are a Democrat who has not yet contemplated what Republicans might do under similar circumstances. Farewell, social security! Au revoir, Medicare! The reason entitlements are hard to repeal is that the Republicans care about getting re-elected. If they didn’t–if they were willing to undertake this sort of suicide mission–then the legislative lock-in you’re counting on wouldn’t exist.

    Oh, wait–suddenly it doesn’t seem quite fair that Republicans could just ignore the will of their constituents that way, does it? Yet I guarantee you that there are a lot of GOP members out there tonight who think that they should get at least one free “Screw You” vote to balance out what the Democrats just did.

    If the GOP takes the legislative innovations of the Democrats and decides to use them, please don’t complain that it’s not fair. Someone could get seriously hurt, laughing that hard.

    But I hope they don’t. What I hope is that the Democrats take a beating at the ballot boxand rethink their contempt for those mouth-breathing illiterates in the electorate. I hope Obama gets his wish to be a one-term president who passed health care. Not because I think I will like his opponent–I very much doubt that I will support much of anything Obama’s opponent says. But because politicians shouldn’t feel that the best route to electoral success is to lie to the voters, and then ignore them.


  73. Chip Designer
    73 | March 21, 2010 21:36

    Having employers provide health care means that they face sharply higher costs for hiring those over 40.

    Just like minimum wage discriminates against the young and experienced, employer provided health care discriminates against the old.

    Every government employment regulation has the effect of reducing employment for someone.


  74. song_and_dance_man
    74 | March 21, 2010 21:38

    lobo91 wrote:

    I’ll get a good night’s sleep after I get a job.
    Which is probably significantly less likely to happen now.

    I’ve been there before and moved into another field. The pay cut hurts, but there is always the challenge of learning in a whole new industry.
    That is new to the experience.


  75. 75 | March 21, 2010 21:38

    @ lobo91:
    Just turning 40 next month, three years without a job of quality. And this is after having just received my degree in 07.


  76. FishOrCutBait
    76 | March 21, 2010 21:38

    @ MrPaulRevere:

    LGFoosballs A blog that use to play on a 100 yard field to a blog played on an enclosed 3X5 table.


  77. 77 | March 21, 2010 21:39

    “…the United States government and its agencies have, by far, the largest pile-up of interest-bearing debts ($15.6 trillion), the largest accumulation of unsecured obligations (over $60 trillion), the largest yearly deficit ($1.6 trillion), and the greatest indebtedness to the rest of the world ($4.8 trillion).” – Martin D. Weiss

    That’s now, it won’t be long before we long for good ole days of those tiny amounts.


  78. snork
    78 | March 21, 2010 21:40

    @ BenZacharia:
    Can we return to the good old days of Carter?


  79. FishOrCutBait
    79 | March 21, 2010 21:42

    mjazz wrote:

    @ FishOrCutBait:
    Yeah, that’s the ticket, we all get Congress’ health care plan./

    Right!!! Drinks are on me!

    Regards,
    Ted Kennedy


  80. song_and_dance_man
    80 | March 21, 2010 21:43

    @ chickadee:

    I can hear it now. Some future Tranzi Prog will offer a Health Care Lock Box once the entitlement nears insolvency.


  81. mjazz
    81 | March 21, 2010 21:43

    @ lobo91:
    Then again they appreciated the fact that I showed up everyday and not hungover and did have experience.
    One dude didn’t show up and didn’t even bother calling in and still managed to keep his job. Back in the day that meant instant firing.


  82. MrPaulRevere
    82 | March 21, 2010 21:44

    @ FishOrCutBait:
    It used to be the Super Bowl of blogs, now its the foosball table of blogs.


  83. lobo91
    83 | March 21, 2010 21:48

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    Nah…they’ll just lie about the numbers, the way they just had the CBO lie about this crap.

    We didn’t have this problem when I worked for the NM legislature. We had the equivalent of the CBO that would provide cost estimates of bills, but unlike the CBO, they were actually independent. They based their calculations on reality, and actual economic projections.

    Someone last night had a good comment about the way CBO does things: “If they’re told to include a pot of gold guarded by a unicorn in their calculatios, that’ what they do. Doesn’t mean it’s gonna happen, though.”


  84. song_and_dance_man
    84 | March 21, 2010 21:48

    @ FishOrCutBait:

    Fact check your ass is a long lost cause there nowadays. Foster is now the ass checker. Be prepared to be violated if you must show it.


  85. FishOrCutBait
    85 | March 21, 2010 21:49

    MrPaulRevere wrote:

    @ FishOrCutBait:
    It used to be the Super Bowl of blogs, now its the foosball table of blogs.

    Racist site…they only play with little white balls now!


  86. chickadee
    86 | March 21, 2010 21:49

    It’s a punch in the gut because you really want to believe there are some responsible adults running this nation. At least enough dems who will have the balls to stand up to a full on anti-American radical commie like zero. It is so disappointing to know that they are all sell out weaklings. They have sided with the enemy . . . . the president of this county.


  87. 87 | March 21, 2010 21:50

    *Warning: Language*


  88. mjazz
    88 | March 21, 2010 21:50
    Thanos
    Sun, Mar 21, 2010 8:02:12pm

    Meanwhile at #TCOT they are going berserk

    Killgore Trout
    Sun, Mar 21, 2010 8:03:19pm

    re: #4 Thanos

    “So this is how liberty dies. To thunderous applause.” -Sen. Padme Amidala

    They’re quoting Star Wars. Heh.

    Hey no stalking now. Just send inkblot over.


  89. FishOrCutBait
    89 | March 21, 2010 21:52

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    @ FishOrCutBait:
    Fact check your ass is a long lost cause there nowadays. Foster is now the ass checker. Be prepared to be violated if you must show it.

    LOL Proof and links no longer necessary. Garbage in…garbage out!


  90. The Osprey
    90 | March 21, 2010 21:54

    mjazz wrote:

    The creepiest administration ever. Someone recently said “Obama is the first post-American President.

    Pam Geller and Robert Spencer have a book coming out with that title.


  91. song_and_dance_man
    91 | March 21, 2010 21:54

    @ lobo91:

    That sounds like a snork comment.

    So, the trillion ducat estimated must be faulty. That is bad news.


  92. 92 | March 21, 2010 21:55

    All of us are very upset and depressed today so I think you will all give me a pass on saying this…. somehow during WWII having murdered 6 million Jews, somehow george soros escaped that fate… too bad for Jews and pretty much the entire planet that that one lousy evil fuck survived! It really seems from all I have read over the years that none of what happened today would have without the hand of soros. If hell exists, i hope he has special treatment there, in the worst of ways. sorry for being so ugly.


  93. The Osprey
    93 | March 21, 2010 21:55

    snork wrote:

    @ BenZacharia:
    Can we return to the good old days of Carter?


  94. song_and_dance_man
    94 | March 21, 2010 21:56

    @ WrathofG-d:

    aladam, it’s always reduced to language, alladammit.


  95. 95 | March 21, 2010 21:56

    “0″(pronounced zero) is no moron. He’s a lying, conniving back-room, commie-socialist with no love for America.
    I do not wish him well.
    Fuck him and his paid for Congress and Senate.


  96. 96 | March 21, 2010 21:58

    10 years of taxes to support 6 years of spending comes out even. Wait till it goes to 10 years of taxing and spending, betcha they’ll be shocked, shocked I tells ya when it doesn’t work.


  97. 97 | March 21, 2010 21:59

    I’m logging off. I am so pissed off that I need to find a distraction from all this bullshit brought about by the LIAR in the Democratic Party.

    God save America!


  98. Conservative Democrat
    98 | March 21, 2010 22:00

    If anyone is interested in who voted for this piece of shit bill I can post all 219 aye votes. Oh and the one republican vote CAO (R-LA) I will have to do it in 3 or 4 blocks I hope, if I can not you can go to oprncongress.org and get them.


  99. Conservative Democrat
    99 | March 21, 2010 22:00

    sorry opencongress.org


  100. Conservative Democrat
    100 | March 21, 2010 22:01

    Ayes: 220 (Democrat: 219; Republican: 1) Nays: 215 (Democrat: 39; Republican: 176) Abstained: 0 (Democrat: 0; Republican: 0)Required percentage of ‘Aye’ votes: 1/2 (50%)Percentage of ‘aye’ votes: 50%Result: Passed


  101. 101 | March 21, 2010 22:01

    Having to hear pelosi and obama’s voice from this moment on literally makes me feel ill. Burn in hell mutha fukas.


  102. Goodbye_Natalie
    102 | March 21, 2010 22:02

    So that I don’t have to visit that honeypot called LGF, what does Icarus have for health care, besides a ticking time bomb of an ginormous ass that his heart is forced to pump with blood? Can you imagine the strain? No wonder is head is starved for oxygen.

    Is Chuck an Bomba parasite living off another man’s pocketbook? I’ll bet he’s a frickin leech.


  103. song_and_dance_man
    103 | March 21, 2010 22:03

    Clean up in the White House.


  104. 104 | March 21, 2010 22:04

    @ Conservative Democrat:

    Mainly interested in ‘our friends’ the blue dog dems.


  105. lobo91
    105 | March 21, 2010 22:04

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    So, the trillion ducat estimated must be faulty. That is bad news.

    Faulty? It’s outright fraud.

    For starters, they intentionally left the “doc fix” out of the calculations, even though that was the price of getting the AMA to sign on. That’s somewhere between $300 and $500 billion right there.

    So much for the $100 billion in “savings” for the first decade.

    And the part about how it’s going to save $1 trillion in the second decade? There’s no way in hell they can accurately project medical costs that far out. Half the drugs and procedures they’ll be using then don’t even exist today.

    If you want a good laugh, look up the projections they used to sell Medicaid back in 1965. They were off by a factor of 100.


  106. 106 | March 21, 2010 22:05

    it has just begun. Nothing would make me more happy if nancy and bambi are in jail by the end of the year. It’s not okay for me to really say what I hope for so its jail for public record.


  107. snork
    107 | March 21, 2010 22:05

    @ Conservative Democrat:
    Nope. Cao voted for the rule this morning, but voted against the bill. 100% no from the R’s.


  108. Goodbye_Natalie
    108 | March 21, 2010 22:06

    We’ve got exactly one Democrat for representative in my reddest of red states and he gave Bomba the one finger salute.

    Afraid my state who voted 2 to 1 against Zero can’t do much more to help with a vote.


  109. Conservative Democrat
    109 | March 21, 2010 22:06

    WOW Opencongress.org just crashed from traffic, sorry I will try again later.


  110. Conservative Democrat
    110 | March 21, 2010 22:08

    @ snork:
    according to Opencongress.org (which has just went down) he is in the AYE catagorie…Just writin what I see (well did see)


  111. 111 | March 21, 2010 22:09

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    I’ll get a good night’s sleep after I get a job.
    Which is probably significantly less likely to happen now.
    I’ve been there before and moved into another field. The pay cut hurts, but there is always the challenge of learning in a whole new industry.
    That is new to the experience.

    Yep, been there, done that. Got a job, with a massive pay cut, that required 14 hour days (including air travel back and forth). The schedule required masssive amounts of caffeine (when Starbucks clerks look at you funny for ordering a large coffee, with 3 shots of espresso, you know you’ve reached the limit). The result was a stroke and resulting seizures. I worked my way back, but still take a plethora of meds (anti-seisure drugs, pain meds for headaches, tranquilizer to keep my hands from shaking and panic attacks).

    I had to walk away or face another stroke. Employers sense my age and, even though i’ve made it clear that my health insurance is taken care of through my wife’s job, I’ve received not even a nibble and now, at 57, a nibble would be a miracle. Unemplyment in my state is 10.7% and even Obama’s people are saying it’s going to hover arount 9% for the balance of the year. This health care fiasco will only make things worse.

    SS Disability? I’d probably not be deemd eligible. Now if I was a single, unemployed female, popping out babies for more checks, no problem.

    Screw this system that punishes a productive life and rewards an unproductive one.


  112. MrPaulRevere
    112 | March 21, 2010 22:12

    @ MacDuff:

    Screw this system that punishes a productive life and rewards an unproductive one.

    Can I get an amen?


  113. Conservative Democrat
    113 | March 21, 2010 22:14

    you betcha! :)


  114. BatGuano
    114 | March 21, 2010 22:14

    Re-posting because I am really pissed:

    I want something. After years of paying taxes and paying insurance premiums, being a good citizen, believing in self-sufficiency, taking care of myself and my family, I want something.
    I could not participate in the “cash for clunkers” because my 1997 Saturn’s gas mileage was too high, while others were trading in there 12 mpg trucks for 3500-4500 dollar credits on new vehicles.

    I want something for me and my wife. If I have to lie I want something. We make too much for assistance and too little for comfort.Now we have to pay for health care for others. I want the government off my back and allow me to provide for myself. So help me, I will take advantage of any socialist programs available if that is what is necessary to survive.I’m tired of being governments bitch.


  115. Goodbye_Natalie
    115 | March 21, 2010 22:15

    I’m telling you guys and gals, Bongo just handed us a gift to boot a bunch of sorry asses down the pike if we don’t despair. People are now involved which is something the Conservative/Libertarian party hasn’t had in a long time.

    We’ll play the leftist game now of tying up the courts, litigation, and states “deeming” what we think appropriate if we stick together. Let this POS ride the wave for a week, and in about six months will wipe that smirk off Bongo’s face with a collective punch to the jaw, breaking it hopefully.

    See…

    http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2010/03/fire-pelosi-what-we-won-tonight.html


  116. chickadee
    116 | March 21, 2010 22:16

    The left has declared war on us. It is not possible they can win.
    We out number them, we are smarter than them and we have the righteous cause of freedom on our side.

    I can sense the indignation and outrage welling up in the people of America.
    We will NOT put up with this. We will never accept the tyranny of kings and dictators.


  117. blueiris
    117 | March 21, 2010 22:16

    Haven’t logged checked in in weeks, but just wanted to drop by and add my voice to those who are pretty chapped about this.
    Talked to a family member tonight who is a small business owner (the ones supposedly who send Obama 40,000 letters a day) and this bill will hurt him in many ways, not the least of which is higher taxes.
    I suppose the silver lining is that the Dems have succeeded in infuriating a majority of voters who won’t forget this anytime soon.


  118. Conservative Democrat
    118 | March 21, 2010 22:18

    @ BatGuano:
    I can understand that, but the fight is not yet over, many things can happen…we will see.

    I for one intend to resist this law, I will not get insurance and I will fight the “fine” in court as unconstutional. my new saying is this:

    I will rather die a free man, than to suffer socialism or tyranny.


  119. blueiris
    119 | March 21, 2010 22:19

    @ BatGuano:

    We make too much for assistance and too little for comfort.Now we have to pay for health care for others.

    I’m right there with you. We pay through the nose for insurance and medical expenses, but at least we have our freedom to choose. For now.


  120. lobo91
    120 | March 21, 2010 22:21

    Well, I’m going to go watch tonight’s episode of The Pacific, and go to bed.

    Maybe that will cheer me up.


  121. Possum
    121 | March 21, 2010 22:21

    @ Bunk X:

    Ain’t no cooties there, except for a lotta embedded videos. Quit looking at it and it’ll go away.

    Yeah there is a cootie, and yeah it is connected to the embedded thingy, and yeah if you disable shockwave that page is OK.

    When I have time I will try to narrow it down to which video.

    Buuuurrrp!


  122. Goodbye_Natalie
    122 | March 21, 2010 22:21

    President Bomba will become the LGF of politics: scorned, mocked, ridiculed, and hated when we’re through with him.

    And BatGuano, it probably doesn’t mean a damn thing to you, but I admire honesty, self-sufficiency and commitment from a person regardless of your wealth. There is no monetary value worth giving those up. There’s too few of you anymore.

    Don’t change on account of a few scumbags. Without folks like you and your family, then I would give up hope.


  123. BatGuano
    123 | March 21, 2010 22:29

    @ chickadee:
    I’m with you on that.We can not put up with this anymore.


  124. chickadee
    124 | March 21, 2010 22:31

    Good night
    bless all you patriots who love this country
    It’s just a minor skirmish that has awakened us. And now we’ll haul out the big guns.


  125. BatGuano
    125 | March 21, 2010 22:32

    Conservative Democrat wrote:

    I will rather die a free man, than to suffer socialism or tyranny.

    I agree!


  126. BatGuano
    126 | March 21, 2010 22:35

    @ blueiris:
    Freedom. For now.That is the way it is.


  127. BatGuano
    127 | March 21, 2010 22:41

    @ Goodbye_Natalie:
    I’m still here, clinging to my values.


  128. BatGuano
    128 | March 21, 2010 22:42

    @ chickadee:
    Goodnight, Chickadee.


  129. Conservative Democrat
    129 | March 21, 2010 22:44

    As much as I would love to stick around tonight, I must retire….MANY things to do tommorow..
    good night all!


  130. BatGuano
    130 | March 21, 2010 22:46

    @ Conservative Democrat:
    Goodnight, Conservative Democrat.


  131. BatGuano
    131 | March 21, 2010 22:49

    Now let it work. Mischief, thou art afoot,
    Take thou what course thou wilt!


  132. Rides A Pale Horse
    132 | March 21, 2010 22:59

    In a nutshell…………

    http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/RAPH6969/IAN.jpg


  133. Eliana
    133 | March 21, 2010 23:04

    It’s interesting (and downright sick) that Zero is using the “victory” word when it comes to his defeat of the American people and democracy in the U.S. by the Dems passing this monstrous and unpopular legislation.

    He refuses to use the word “victory” as a goal when it comes to fighting against enemies who murder our civilians and kill our soldiers.

    This is no accident.

    His only goal when it comes to “victory” is seeking it against the United States of America.


  134. MrPaulRevere
    134 | March 21, 2010 23:09

    Have a great week all and remember you are only beaten if you give up.


  135. BatGuano
    135 | March 21, 2010 23:11

    @ Eliana:
    Eliana, we know what he is.


  136. BatGuano
    136 | March 21, 2010 23:14

    @ MrPaulRevere:
    I give up. That means I’m beaten.


  137. Nilla
    137 | March 21, 2010 23:18

    Mars wrote:

    her boss is not required to offer healthcare due to small number of employees; this does qualify as change.

    If her boss were required, he’d probably have to lay her off anyway because of the enormous cost.


  138. 138 | March 21, 2010 23:18

    MrPaulRevere wrote:

    Have a great week all and remember you are only beaten if you give up.

    True that.


  139. Nilla
    139 | March 21, 2010 23:20

    BatGuano wrote:

    I’m tired of being governments bitch.

    I hear ya.

    I’m seriously considering closing down the business and letting someone else pay my way for a while.


  140. BatGuano
    140 | March 21, 2010 23:26

    Nilla wrote:

    I’m seriously considering closing down the business and letting someone else pay my way for a while.

    If you can, do so. We are stretched to the limit. My wife and I are seriously looking into taking advantage of any government programs available.


  141. Nilla
    141 | March 21, 2010 23:31

    BatGuano wrote:

    If you can, do so. We are stretched to the limit. My wife and I are seriously looking into taking advantage of any government programs available.

    I cut my tax liability down by about 10K in the last year in response to Obama’s election. Let’s see if I can zero it out for next year.


  142. 142 | March 21, 2010 23:33

    Nilla wrote:

    BatGuano wrote:
    I’m tired of being governments bitch.

    I hear ya.
    I’m seriously considering closing down the business and letting someone else pay my way for a while.

    BTW, guess which way the stock market’s gonna go tomorrow.

    Welcome to Socialism, folks. No more employees either, as businesses are gonna continue laying off big time. New workers will be on a contract basis, per job/project, with no job security.

    I CAN’T WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER.


  143. Macker
    143 | March 21, 2010 23:35

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    I seriously doubt b. Hussein’s benediction of ‘God bless America’.

    He is thanking Allah tonight. Good.


  144. BatGuano
    144 | March 21, 2010 23:35

    Good night, all.Good luck Nilla!


  145. Macker
    145 | March 21, 2010 23:35

    @ Bunk X:

    It’s probably going to take a fucking dive!


  146. bar
    146 | March 21, 2010 23:48

    President Obummer: Allah you are health insurance are belong to the government now.


  147. Owl
    147 | March 22, 2010 00:01

    Just thought I’d stop by to see how you guys were takin’ the news.

    Haven’t been online much lately. Lost my Dad a few weeks back.

    Couldn’t even remember my password or email I used to register back when it was LGF2.0.

    It’s just me though, Owl. And because of what the tyrant king and pelosi the traitor did tonight( along with the other socialists) I’m mad as hell.


  148. Conservative Democrat
    148 | March 22, 2010 00:09

    I am gonna trie to post all the Aye votes, last time I tried the site was overloaded. You can go to: Opencongress.org

    Ayes: 220 (Democrat: 219; Republican: 1)


  149. 149 | March 22, 2010 00:14

    Macker wrote:

    @ Bunk X:
    It’s probably going to take a fucking dive!

    NFS


  150. 150 | March 22, 2010 00:16

    @ Conservative Democrat:
    Who was the one republican bastard?


  151. Conservative Democrat
    151 | March 22, 2010 00:29

    November 07, 2009 Roll call number 887 in the House Question On Passage: H R 3962 Affordable Health Care for America Act Ayes:
    220 (Democrat: 219; Republican: 1)
    Nays: 215 (Democrat: 39; Republican: 176)
    0bstained: 0 (Democrat: 0; Republican: 0)
    Required percentage of ‘Aye’ votes: 1/2 (50%)Percentage of ‘aye’ votes: 50%Result: Passed Republicans Voting ‘Aye’
    Name Voted
    Rep. Anh Cao [R, LA-2] Aye


  152. Conservative Democrat
    152 | March 22, 2010 00:32

    That is all the aye votes listed….one republican, one lousy asshole to make it “bipartisan” Bull shit…I wonder what he got? Hope it enought to leave the country and move to china.


  153. Conservative Democrat
    153 | March 22, 2010 00:35

    @ Bunk X:

    Yeah, I think we really need to know which scumbag voted for it, this way it cannot be denied later on. Or becomming lost before the upcomming elections.


  154. 154 | March 22, 2010 00:38

    Conservative Democrat wrote:

    @ Bunk X:
    Yeah, I think we really need to know which scumbag voted for it, this way it cannot be denied later on. Or becomming lost before the upcomming elections.

    It’s already a matter of public record, and it won’t be lost. I’m kinda pissed right now, so don’t take it personally.


  155. Conservative Democrat
    155 | March 22, 2010 00:39

    These may be the only “democrats that my be able to argue they did not vote…againg to try to save their asses.

    Democrats Voting ‘Nay’

    Name Voted
    Rep. John Adler [D, NJ-3] Nay
    Rep. Jason Altmire [D, PA-4] Nay
    Rep. Brian Baird [D, WA-3] Nay
    Rep. John Barrow [D, GA-12] Nay
    Rep. John Boccieri [D, OH-16] Nay
    Rep. Dan Boren [D, OK-2] Nay
    Rep. Frederick Boucher [D, VA-9] Nay
    Rep. Allen Boyd [D, FL-2] Nay
    Rep. Bobby Bright [D, AL-2] Nay
    Rep. Ben Chandler [D, KY-6] Nay
    Rep. Travis Childers [D, MS-1] Nay
    Rep. Lincoln Davis [D, TN-4] Nay
    Rep. Artur Davis [D, AL-7] Nay
    Rep. Thomas Edwards [D, TX-17] Nay
    Rep. Barton Gordon [D, TN-6] Nay
    Rep. Parker Griffith [D, AL-5] Nay
    Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin [D, SD-0] Nay
    Rep. Tim Holden [D, PA-17] Nay
    Rep. Larry Kissell [D, NC-8] Nay
    Rep. Suzanne Kosmas [D, FL-24] Nay
    Rep. Frank Kratovil [D, MD-1] Nay
    Rep. Dennis Kucinich [D, OH-10] Nay
    Rep. Betsy Markey [D, CO-4] Nay
    Rep. James Marshall [D, GA-8] Nay
    Rep. Eric Massa [D, NY-29] Nay
    Rep. Jim Matheson [D, UT-2] Nay
    Rep. Mike McIntyre [D, NC-7] Nay
    Rep. Michael McMahon [D, NY-13] Nay
    Rep. Charles Melancon [D, LA-3] Nay
    Rep. Walter Minnick [D, ID-1] Nay
    Rep. Scott Murphy [D, NY-20] Nay
    Rep. Glenn Nye [D, VA-2] Nay
    Rep. Collin Peterson [D, MN-7] Nay
    Rep. Mike Ross [D, AR-4] Nay
    Rep. Heath Shuler [D, NC-11] Nay
    Rep. Ike Skelton [D, MO-4] Nay
    Rep. John Tanner [D, TN-8] Nay
    Rep. Gene Taylor [D, MS-4] Nay
    Rep. Harry Teague [D, NM-2] Nay


  156. 156 | March 22, 2010 00:41

    @ Conservative Democrat:
    I’ll leave those up. Thanks.


  157. Conservative Democrat
    157 | March 22, 2010 00:43

    coo the reference is : Opencongress.org
    do what you want, use it in any manner deemed fit!
    :)


  158. 158 | March 22, 2010 00:49

    @ Conservative Democrat:
    Didn’t mean to get all humpy and stuff. Maybe things will be better tomorrow, and there will be a silver bullet fired from the forehead of an unnamed unicorn. ;)


  159. Conservative Democrat
    159 | March 22, 2010 00:52

    Hell I seen it and just broke out my JW red and a Montecristo!
    and actually cried, for the first time in my life I actually cried for the fate of our Nation.


  160. spidly
    160 | March 22, 2010 02:45

    Donated to the RNCC.

    Well, how bad could it be? In Denmark I only paid 49.5% income tax at minimum wage for the doctor I could never see. Fair deal, right? With the VAT, sin taxes and everything else I coulda lived outside the home in the ass-end of the Copenhagen Metropolitan area if I had 4 or 5 jobs. This’ll really help the little guy.


  161. goddessoftheclassroom
    161 | March 22, 2010 03:00

    Good morning, y’all.


  162. RIX
    162 | March 22, 2010 03:03

    Good morning Goddess & all here.


  163. goddessoftheclassroom
    163 | March 22, 2010 03:09

    @ RIX:
    {RIX}


  164. Haephestus
    164 | March 22, 2010 03:13

    I lurk but never post much. But today I can honestly say that for the first time, I’m horrified by my gov’t. I’ve been perplexed by them. I’ve been angry at them, But until last night, never horrified. The Founding Fathers must be spinning in their graves at 100,000 RPM.


  165. goddessoftheclassroom
    165 | March 22, 2010 03:19

    @ Haephestus:
    {Haephestus}

    The truth shall set us free. We have the advantage of KNOWING what damage this will do, so we will act instead of just waiting and seeing.


  166. RIX
    166 | March 22, 2010 03:22

    @ Haephestus:
    When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
    Thomas Jefferson


  167. Haephestus
    167 | March 22, 2010 03:27

    RIX wrote:

    @ Haephestus:
    When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
    Thomas Jefferson

    We saw tyranny in our gov’t for the first time since Lincoln. I thought I’d never live to see it. Hopefully, when the details of this become public, people will revolt. I’m becoming more and more convinced that, if this continues, there will be open conflict in this country within my lifetime. This is the sort of thing that set off the Revolutionary and Civil Wars.


  168. RIX
    168 | March 22, 2010 03:33

    @ Haephestus:
    This is the sort of thing that set off the Revolutionary and Civil Wars.

    The coup d’etat is now in full swing.
    Our government has made it clear now that we are
    mere chattels.
    They will plunder the middle class & redistribute the wealth.
    Next up, Comprehensive Immigration Reform.


  169. Buckeye Abroad
    169 | March 22, 2010 03:34

    159. conservative democrat

    and actually cried, for the first time in my life I actually cried for the fate of our Nation.

    When you stop crying, try voting for the other party.

    Just an idea.


  170. vagabond trader
    170 | March 22, 2010 03:39

    Good morning fellow patriots!

    Please do not fall for those Ds who voted Nay,clear them out. They were given permission to vote by Pelousy.Another cynical contemptuous gesture to the American people in order to keep those seats.


  171. goddessoftheclassroom
    171 | March 22, 2010 03:40

    Bloodied but not bowed, I must get ready for my Visigoths.

    They’re more civilized than the Democrats…


  172. vagabond trader
    172 | March 22, 2010 03:41

    @ goddessoftheclassroom:

    They’re more civilized than the Democrats…

    {goddess}

    Without a doubt!


  173. 173 | March 22, 2010 03:43

    Mornin’ ya’all


  174. RIX
    174 | March 22, 2010 03:45
    @ vagabond trader:
    Please do not fall for those Ds who voted Nay,clear them out.

    Good morning Trader. Of course you’re right.
    The Dems that voted no had permisssion.
    Stupak should be ashamed, he actually attacked “The Stupak Amendment.”


  175. spidly
    175 | March 22, 2010 03:46

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    When you stop crying, try voting for the other party.

    Just an idea.

    for your penance you must say 100 declarations, 100 article I sect 8′s, Contemplate on the federalist papers, and claim exempt.


  176. vagabond trader
    176 | March 22, 2010 03:48

    @ RIX:

    Morning RIX.

    A pox on them all.

    A coincidence that the largest abortion mill in the USA is opening this spring?

    http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/local/100118-group-protest-planned-parenthood-facility


  177. spidly
    177 | March 22, 2010 03:48

    RIX wrote:

    Stupak should be ashamed, he actually attacked “The Stupak Amendment.”

    excommunication if the bishops would stick to their guns


  178. 178 | March 22, 2010 03:48

    goddessoftheclassroom wrote:

    Good morning, y’all.

    Good morning beautiful…


  179. Macker
    179 | March 22, 2010 03:50

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ RIX:

    Morning RIX.

    A pox on them all.

    A coincidence that the largest abortion mill in the USA is opening this spring?

    http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/local/100118-group-protest-planned-parenthood-facility

    An abortion mill you say. Didn’t they recently elect an openly gay mayor?


  180. RIX
    180 | March 22, 2010 03:50

    @ vagabond trader:
    A coincidence that the largest abortion mill in the USA is opening this spring?

    The Dear Leader likes abortions.
    If the baby happens to be born alive, he wants the error
    corrected.


  181. 181 | March 22, 2010 03:53

    RIX wrote:

    @ vagabond trader:
    A coincidence that the largest abortion mill in the USA is opening this spring?
    The Dear Leader likes abortions.
    If the baby happens to be born alive, he wants the error
    corrected.

    Yup, wouldn’t want to punish anyone with a baby ya know…


  182. vagabond trader
    182 | March 22, 2010 03:53

    As I have droned before,this has very little to do with healthcare. It is massive fraud perpetrated on the middle class in order to subsidize the so called “disenfranchised”, grab their vote, retain power and control.


  183. RIX
    183 | March 22, 2010 03:54

    @ doriangrey:
    Morning Dorian.


  184. Mike C.
    184 | March 22, 2010 03:54

    We saw tyranny in our gov’t for the first time since Lincoln.

    Horse hockey. If you’ll think back, this same house passed a bill of attainder last year.


  185. PrincessNatasha
    185 | March 22, 2010 03:55

    So, I see the worthless swine got their USSR v2.0… Two words for them: Moscow 1993…
    And may the Botox Bitch rot alive.


  186. vagabond trader
    186 | March 22, 2010 03:58

    Hellcare isn’t the only issue angering Americans.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/03/voter_backlash_beyond_obamacar.html


  187. 187 | March 22, 2010 03:59

    An exercise in logic.

    Premise of Declaration of Idependence.
    Governments are instituted among men to secure G-d given rights.
    The Constitution is the codification of that.
    teh 0 and many others declare that abortion is a right.
    Which god says that is a right?
    Molech, among others.
    Which G-d says it isn’t?
    The G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
    Therefore which god to they follow?

    No googling for the answer.


  188. 188 | March 22, 2010 04:01

    PrincessNatasha wrote:

    So, I see the worthless swine got their USSR v2.0… Two words for them: Moscow 1993…
    And may the Botox Bitch rot alive.

    When she finds herself in hell, she will be screaming… but I dont belong here… And Satan himself will rake his claws across her face and scream at her OH YES YOU DO… REMEMBER WHAT YOU DID TO AMERICA…


  189. 189 | March 22, 2010 04:02

    hey folks let me ask you a question.Why would these braindeads equate this Trojan horse to the civil rights bill? I think I know.This is all about black people. How could it be interpreted any different.
    Everything about Obama has become a racist thing. Reminds me of OJ.He could have cut the throats of the judge on camera and they would let him off. Racism..it conquers all. If I said anymore I’m sure I would be arrested.


  190. PrincessNatasha
    190 | March 22, 2010 04:02

    vagabond trader wrote:

    As I have droned before,this has very little to do with healthcare. It is massive fraud perpetrated on the middle class in order to subsidize the so called “disenfranchised”, grab their vote, retain power and control.

    And you are absolutely right… Well, looks like I get my wish to fight commies post-Cold War after all… Like I droned on and on before, I did not leave a communist hellhole just to have it imposed on me here. I have nowhere to run. It’s roll over and die or fight and have a chance at life.


  191. PrincessNatasha
    191 | March 22, 2010 04:03

    doriangrey wrote:

    When she finds herself in hell, she will be screaming… but I dont belong here… And Satan himself will rake his claws across her face and scream at her OH YES YOU DO… REMEMBER WHAT YOU DID TO AMERICA…

    I wish I had your faith.


  192. 192 | March 22, 2010 04:06

    If I hear that ******** Muslim voice one more time I might shoot the gd t.v.


  193. vagabond trader
    193 | March 22, 2010 04:09

    @ Grimcargo:

    We thought the very same thing Grim.Once in a while the Ds have to renew their bond with their modern day plantation dwellers by tossing out a little cake.They don’t actually care about them,just need the vote.The soft bigotry of leftists in full view. See my #182.


  194. PrincessNatasha
    194 | March 22, 2010 04:10

    @ BenZacharia:
    If only they were something as straight-forward as Satanists… These mutants believe The State is a deity and they are its High Priests, while all productive individuals are just fodder. You know, I forgot who it was, but they objected to me calling tyrants and supporters of tyranny “non-human”… I still stick to my opinion. No one who wants that much power and control over others’ lives deserves the title of a human being. It is an evil, mutated, parasitic life form and should be treated as such.


  195. 195 | March 22, 2010 04:12

    PrincessNatasha wrote:

    I wish I had your faith.

    In this world Justice may be a flighty and passing thing, but to the Almighty God, it is no small matter to be debated or quibbled upon by lawyers. The Almighty god cannot be bought off with bribes, he cannot be outmaneuvered by crafty lawyers or caught up on fine or obscure points of law the meanings of which are questionable or debatable.


  196. 196 | March 22, 2010 04:13

    Sorry Dorian, nice thought though.

    The adversary is not in charge of the abode of the enemies of Ha’Shem. Misery loves company, they are isolated and without any contact whatsoever. That was their choice. Now you know the true meaning of Pro-Choice.


  197. vagabond trader
    197 | March 22, 2010 04:14

    Someone exercised their first amendment right

    http://www.breitbart.tv/house-member-appears-to-yell-baby-killer-at-stupak/


  198. 198 | March 22, 2010 04:21

    vagabond trader wrote:

    As I have droned before,this has very little to do with healthcare. It is massive fraud perpetrated on the middle class in order to subsidize the so called “disenfranchised”, grab their vote, retain power and control.

    amen


  199. Buckeye Abroad
    199 | March 22, 2010 04:24

    173. BenZ.

    Hey bud. Need to run. Chat later.


  200. taxfreekiller
    200 | March 22, 2010 04:31

    Get it now America.

    No where to hide, no place to put your head in the sand now.

    Join the local death, tax and spend cult, or fight for freedom.

    They now give you no choice.

    http://www.blowoutcongress.com

    Stupak first.
    Peloi no. two.


  201. mawskrat
    201 | March 22, 2010 04:55

    Good Morning pipples…///did something happen yesterday?


  202. waldensianspirit
    202 | March 22, 2010 04:59

    They print/manufacture money/debt. They can manufacture votes just as readily and display they have the immorality to do it.


  203. PrincessNatasha
    203 | March 22, 2010 05:11

    mawskrat wrote:

    Good Morning pipples…///did something happen yesterday?

    Heh… I’d say a communist revolution happened. Why won’t that rotten corpse stay in the shit-can of history where it belongs is anyone’s guess…


  204. vagabond trader
    204 | March 22, 2010 05:13

    Anyone wringing their hands over the supposed racist slurs and assault during tea party protests. You decide if this guy is credible.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/John_Lewis_invoking_George_Wallace_says_McCain_and_Palin_playing_with_fire.html


  205. RIX
    205 | March 22, 2010 05:20

    My Democrat Congressman was “undecided” on his vote as late as Saturday.
    I never for a minute believed that he was undecided & he did vote for it yesterday.
    We are a Republican District & this guy is gone.


  206. vagabond trader
    206 | March 22, 2010 05:25

    @ RIX:

    Thought I read Kucinich voted No. If true, this is proof that Ds were given the go ahead to vote the bill down for show. Get rid of all Ds just to be sure.


  207. RIX
    207 | March 22, 2010 05:27

    Consequences: Stupak stripped of “Defender of Life” award
    By Michelle Malkin • March 21, 2010 09:23 PM

    He was scheduled to be honored at the Susan B Anthony Pro Life Gala
    this coming Wednesday.
    Maybe Obama will have him over to the White House to watch the NCAA
    Championship Game.


  208. vagabond trader
    208 | March 22, 2010 05:32

    @ RIX:

    and drink a beer or five. Astonishing how cheaply this immoral political slut was purchased.


  209. RIX
    209 | March 22, 2010 05:33

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Thought I read Kucinich voted No. If true, this is proof that Ds were given the go ahead to vote the bill down for show. Get rid of all Ds just to be sure.

    I don’t think that he did. That flight on Air Force One & his wife being able to work on some project with Michelle turned him.
    His only objection was that it is not “Single Payer”


  210. rain of lead
    210 | March 22, 2010 05:33

    mornin folks
    have some coffee.
    time to roll up your sleeves, spit on your hands, and prepare to fight.

    day by day


  211. waldensianspirit
    211 | March 22, 2010 05:34

    @ RIX:
    Naw, he already deleted Stupak from his phone directory while noting in his diary to mention Stupak as a used-up useful tool in his second edition memoirs.


  212. 212 | March 22, 2010 05:34

    A Canadian gets it and understands. As well what he says on why a Canadian follows American politics so closely is one of the reasons why I do so.


  213. RIX
    213 | March 22, 2010 05:36

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ RIX:
    and drink a beer or five. Astonishing how cheaply this immoral political slut was purchased.

    I had never heard of Stupak before this debate. The guy is a complete
    fraud.
    Even the Obama mob has to see him as a traitor.


  214. rain of lead
    214 | March 22, 2010 05:36

    Winston Churchill

    “Never give in,NEVER give in,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER!


  215. vagabond trader
    215 | March 22, 2010 05:38

    @ RIX:

    No matter,those Ds who voted no are still the enemy and not to be trusted.


  216. RIX
    216 | March 22, 2010 05:41
    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Naw, he already deleted Stupak from his phone directory while noting in his diary to mention Stupak as a used-up useful tool in his second edition memoirs.

    Well he did kick Grannie to the curb, so blowing off Stupak would be nothing. But he still might let him come over to keep running for
    beer.


  217. RIX
    217 | March 22, 2010 05:44

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ RIX:
    No matter,those Ds who voted no are still the enemy and not to be trusted.

    Trader, I agree with that. The Dems that voted no had permission to.
    If their votes were needed they would have been in lockstep.
    Stupak comes out of this as the poster boy for betrayal.
    He has just destroyed his own reputation.


  218. vagabond trader
    218 | March 22, 2010 05:44

    @ PaladinPhil:

    Good essay.Obowma is loathe to pursue victory against our enemies,but declares it against the American people.


  219. Moemo
    219 | March 22, 2010 05:46

    OT comedy relief:

    Tiger Woods says in his most recent interview: “I tried many time to stop (fucking hot women) but I couldn’t, it was horrible.”

    That would make a great T-shirt.


  220. 220 | March 22, 2010 05:51

    @ vagabond trader:

    You have to understand. It is all in who he considers the Enemy.


  221. fultonchain
    222 | March 22, 2010 05:54

    This is why you lost… listen to yourselves:

    “I can hear it now. Some future Tranzi Prog…”

    “…stand up to a full on anti-American radical commie like zero.”

    “He’s a lying, conniving back-room, commie-socialist with no love for America.”

    “Welcome to Socialism, folks.”

    Only in 2010 America can handing the insurance companies 30 million new customers, without price controls or a public option, be described as Socialist.

    This is why you lost. For some crazy reason, the Republicans, who actually had a bunch of valid concerns about the bill decided to leave the PR work to the most extreme fringes of politics. The fringe where name calling and fear mongering replace discourse and compromise.

    Rather than seek consensus and work on specific health care policy (something all admit is desperately needed) the Republicans decided to go with the scorched Earth theory. By stopping Obama here it was hoped that he would be rendered a lame duck after a little more than a year in office, unable to legislate and opening the door for a mid-term Republican sweep.

    Ooops. Hey, going all in takes balls and nobody disputes your courage but it might have turned out differently if rather than being obstructionist the Republicans had tried the negotiation route. The Dems did this during the debate over the first Bush tax cuts and it turned out okay. Believe me, we didn’t like them any more than you like this. Yet, somehow the country survived.

    So, what now? Are you going to act as real patriots work within the bounds of the law and the ballot box to help make America the place you feel it should be or go back to ranting on the radio, waving signs around and looking under the bed for commies.


  222. RIX
    223 | March 22, 2010 05:57

    I was really fascinated that Pelosi claimed that this Bill will promote the entreprenurial spirit, because you can change jobs & not lose coverage.
    Um, entrepreneurs do not go to new employers, they start businesses.


  223. Nevergiveup
    224 | March 22, 2010 05:59

    RIX wrote:

    I was really fascinated that Pelosi claimed that this Bill will promote the entreprenurial spirit, because you can change jobs & not lose coverage.
    Um, entrepreneurs do not go to new employers, they start businesses.

    How would she know?


  224. waldensianspirit
    225 | March 22, 2010 06:00

    @ RIX:
    Yea, as the lady was ranting against the tea partiers in NO she was saying we all need jobs, thus missing the point. We need more people creating jobs.


  225. Nevergiveup
    226 | March 22, 2010 06:01

    The Dow and all other futures are down? Hum. I wonder why?


  226. rain of lead
    227 | March 22, 2010 06:01

    @ fultonchain:

    the R’s did try to work with the Dems and they said “FUCK YOU,WE WON!”
    so don’t try to peddle that bullshit here, we know better


  227. RIX
    228 | March 22, 2010 06:03

    @ fultonchain:
    Ooops. Hey, going all in takes balls and nobody disputes your courage but it might have turned out differently if rather than being obstructionist the Republicans had tried the negotiation route

    .

    That is disingenuous. You know or should know that Repblicans were largely locked out of the negotiations. In at least one case the door was literally locked.
    You are just giving Dem talking points.


  228. waldensianspirit
    229 | March 22, 2010 06:03

    @ rain of lead:
    He does use a lot of words doesn’t he? Likes to hear itself type while worshipping its on intellect.


  229. 230 | March 22, 2010 06:04

    Today I am ordering my State of origin and heritage’s flag to fly during the counter attack against the Demcong. I will not fly the flag of The United Socialist States of Alinsky until the Republic is restored.
    I will be under the colors of The Commonwealth of Virginia.

    Sic Semper Tyrannis


  230. RIX
    231 | March 22, 2010 06:05

    @ Nevergiveup:
    How would she know?

    The encyclopedia is a compilation of things that Pelosi does not know.


  231. waldensianspirit
    232 | March 22, 2010 06:05

    @ RIX:
    Yep, two words, Paul Ryan.


  232. RIX
    233 | March 22, 2010 06:09

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Yea, as the lady was ranting against the tea partiers in NO she was saying we all need jobs, thus missing the point. We need more people creating jobs.

    The gimmee, gimmee types will never see that.
    They think that the gubmint should take care of them & the people
    actually footing the bill should shut up.
    There will be a day of reckoning. Vote these bums out.


  233. RIX
    234 | March 22, 2010 06:10

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Yep, two words, Paul Ryan.

    Ryan & Erik Cantor are rising stars.


  234. 235 | March 22, 2010 06:14

    @ fultonchain:

    I’m glad you feel that way. I want the Republicans in the Senate to filibuster everything that comes down the pike from now until November. This Senate and Congress has shown themselves to be unfit to make law (did you miss Alcee Hastings saying that there are no rules when the Democrats want to get things done? It is not over the top to call that authoritarian, maybe even totalitarian). Let the next Congress deal with anything that needs to be dealt with.


  235. 236 | March 22, 2010 06:18

    There is anger in the country today. Anger like I have never seen before. More anger than there was in 1994, when we threw the Democrats out for the first time in 40 years. We have to keep that anger alive, and keep it focused until November. We can’t win the war abroad until we win the one at home. The Progressives intend to make Khrushchev’s prophecy come true, and destroy us from within. We can’t let that happen.


  236. rain of lead
    237 | March 22, 2010 06:20

    @ Iron Fist:

    Damn straight!


  237. 238 | March 22, 2010 06:22

    RIX wrote:

    I was really fascinated that Pelosi claimed that this Bill will promote the entreprenurial spirit, because you can change jobs & not lose coverage.
    Um, entrepreneurs do not go to new employers, they start businesses.

    She was thinking of all the people who can now leave their sixty hours of day jobs to work part time and persue carrers in marketing their fingerpaintings at Fisherman’s Warf


  238. vagabond trader
    239 | March 22, 2010 06:27

    @ fultonchain:

    Only in 2010 America can handing the insurance companies 30 million new customers, without price controls or a public option, be described as Socialist.

    Do tell.Who will be paying for those of the “30 million”(a bs figure) who have no visible means of support and why should my working family be compelled to do so when we have a tough enough time paying for our own needs.Subsidizing the children and adult “children” of strangers is not my job.People like you,always looking for freebies off someone elses back,then having the stones to call those who resist selfish. Disingenuous to say the least.

    http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/K/k/1/socialism_explained.jpg

    and this

    http://www.weaselzippers.net/.a/6a00e008c6b4e5883401310fc84151970c-pi

    Take it to Kos.


  239. vagabond trader
    240 | March 22, 2010 06:31

    @ fultonchain:

    looking under the bed for commies.

    lol,only have to look at 1600 and Capitol Hill.

    Protest/dissent is patriotic. ‘member?


  240. 241 | March 22, 2010 06:32

    @ vagabond trader:

    Don’t worry, be Happy! The government will take all that excess money you have so that you don’t need to worry about it anymore. Instead of wondering which college you will send your children to, which Lexus to buy (I like the convertables), or where to vacation, you can worry about where the next meal’s gruel will come from. Progress!


  241. rain of lead
    242 | March 22, 2010 06:36

    what thiFor too many years, America has been attacked quietly – the serpent waiting patiently for his prey, striking only periodically. Starting primarily with the New Deal, incremental socialism as President Reagan famously observed, has been slowly eating away at the great American fabric of individual self-reliance, personal responsibility and limited government… Government program by government program, inch-by-inch, career politician-by-career politician… Democrat AND Republican. For decades, you have been losing your God-given and hard-fought birthright of freedom as surely as the vote that slapped you in the face yesterday.

    But now… now, you know. Your enemy is clear. And the enemy has made clear their intentions – and that is the complete re-making of America.

    Your enemy now is any Democrat – for it is a Party blinded by false notions of compassion, willing to trade liberty for self promotion and so devoid of a soul that innocent life is but a trivial instrument to barter. It is a Party lacking character and it is a Party that simply does not believe in the America of our founding.

    But your enemy also is any Republican who is complicit in expanding government at the expense of liberty… Any Republican who would join hands with evil and continue to walk the road of denial, telling you he is fighting for America while he negotiates away her very foundation… And, specifically, any Republican who will not state clearly and succinctly that he will fight each and every day to repeal, de-fund, and otherwise eviscerate the healthcare bill.

    And your enemy is the bill itself. For, if we do not repeal this bill, we will have nothing left. We will have forsaken all those who have bled to hand down to us this, the greatest nation the world has ever known – and we will have made a mockery of God’s blessing on this nation.

    The time has come to say, “no more.” Not my country. Not on my watch. I will not stand by and let my nation be sold into the chains of tyranny in the false name of compassion. The opening words of the Declaration of Independence were nothing short of magnificent – charting a new course for humanity and laying the foundation for a new world. But, the actual force of the document were not the first words – rather they were the last:
    s guy says


  242. 243 | March 22, 2010 06:39

    Second to the top tax bracket here last year here Fulton Chain. The difference in what I pay on a sliding tax scale and a flat tax at all income levels would pay for a year at a privete uni. It is taken from me under threat of violence by my government and give to other humans that I have no fealty to, and are less than animals in their exercise of self control and industry.

    Social Justice I suppose?


  243. 244 | March 22, 2010 06:40

    @ fultonchain:

    What an uninfomed view you have. The Democrats never wanted Republican input on this bill and actively eschewed it; how can you possibly blame Republicans for being “obstructionist” when they weren’t even allowed in the negotiation rooms?

    Republicans were forced to go outside and make their case directly to the American people and, in that forum they won. Alas, it was the Democrats that disregarded not only the Republicans, but The People.

    Yours is the old opinion that “they’re all at fault” when, in this case, the fault lies solely at the feet of the Democrats who actively rejected any sort of bipartisanship.


  244. waldensianspirit
    245 | March 22, 2010 07:11

    @ MacDuff:
    Hopefully the GOP learned the directly to the people method is the right method going forward.


  245. vagabond trader
    246 | March 22, 2010 07:13

    @ MacDuff:

    Wonder when they’ll blame Booooosh. Oh wait…..


  246. fultonchain
    247 | March 22, 2010 07:24

    RIX wrote:

    You are just giving Dem talking points.

    Actually, most of my talking points came from David Frum. Last I checked he wasn’t exactly known for parroting the Dem line.


  247. 248 | March 22, 2010 08:09

    fultonchain wrote:

    This is why you lost… listen to yourselves:
    “I can hear it now. Some future Tranzi Prog…”
    “…stand up to a full on anti-American radical commie like zero.”
    “He’s a lying, conniving back-room, commie-socialist with no love for America.”
    “Welcome to Socialism, folks.”
    Only in 2010 America can handing the insurance companies 30 million new customers, without price controls or a public option, be described as Socialist.
    This is why you lost. For some crazy reason, the Republicans, who actually had a bunch of valid concerns about the bill decided to leave the PR work to the most extreme fringes of politics. The fringe where name calling and fear mongering replace discourse and compromise.
    Rather than seek consensus and work on specific health care policy (something all admit is desperately needed) the Republicans decided to go with the scorched Earth theory. By stopping Obama here it was hoped that he would be rendered a lame duck after a little more than a year in office, unable to legislate and opening the door for a mid-term Republican sweep.
    Ooops. Hey, going all in takes balls and nobody disputes your courage but it might have turned out differently if rather than being obstructionist the Republicans had tried the negotiation route. The Dems did this during the debate over the first Bush tax cuts and it turned out okay. Believe me, we didn’t like them any more than you like this. Yet, somehow the country survived.
    So, what now? Are you going to act as real patriots work within the bounds of the law and the ballot box to help make America the place you feel it should be or go back to ranting on the radio, waving signs around and looking under the bed for commies.

    BULL ******SHIT!


  248. Canoe Convoy
    249 | March 22, 2010 08:17

    @ Mars:

    Heh. Turning 41 this year. We could even have a meeting. Earned my MA in 2008, after years of working towards it. What happens upon graduation, but I took a celebratory canoe trip-of-a-lifetime, then returned in time for the economy to circle the drain.


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