It is not illegal to be a moron in this country.
by Bunk X ( 249 Comments › )
Filed under Health Care, Healthcare, Humor, Open thread, Socialism at March 21st, 2010 - 8:30 pm
This is your brain:

This is your Brain on Congress:

Any Questions?

“Congratulations, Mr. President. You’ve just fucked over the insurance industry and the American people at the same time. Brilliant.”
[This is an open thread.]
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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
Don’t get mad. Get even.
No, but it should be made very, very painful.
yet we may soon have mental health care to deal with it.
bbiab, must go and work the fields (healthcare funded, no less) to find the stoopid tree from which these fruits fell, and then burn them.
“The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it’s limitations”-Einstein
Morons running our nation is dangerous.
It would be nice if we had an American President that had as much hostility toward Ahmadinejad as he has toward insurance companies.
Good night folks. Tomorrow is a new day (and a work day, so gotta get ready for bed)…
As this is an open thread….
Our “The Feasts of St. Joseph” thread still has cooties, and I can’t for the life of me find out why.
I keep looking everytime I get a sober few minutes. Um, at the moment I am not looking!
Anyway, it is my pet project for the next few days, so admins I respectfully ask you to not do anything to it.
Thanks! (Burrrrp… hic….)
Mostly true
I can only bide my time until the Nov. midterms. I think the MSM’s heads will do a “scanners”. It’ll make 1994 look tame.
“We proved this government of the people, and by the people, still works for the people.”
Well, at least the 35% who wanted this…
Is that a new plug on Bidens forehead or just a fly.
Wow. Wait for that tax bill to arrive after this kicks in!
I just wish the insurance companies hadn’t decided to back this crap in the name of short term profits, instead of looking at the long term damage to their industry.
@ Sean Galt:
Ivan, Juan and Ian also work.
@ song_and_dance_man:
It’s a mark!
good night fellow doomed ones.
@ Possum:
The threads are taking a long time to refresh today.
Possum wrote:
Maybe it just needs a few asprin.
A drunk wakes up the next morning and he’s sober.
A stupid politician wakes up the next morning and he’s still stupid.
We can only hope Americans will see through this sham done on the first day of the week during the Easter and Passover commemorations.
I have never seen B. Hussein so smug since he was elected.
@ BenZacharia:
I used to be just “Sean” at another place in a friendlier time…
220 communist pig scumbags need to lose their jobs dome November
Stupac, you first. SELLOUT SLIMEBAG
Mars wrote:
Even corporate citizens are capable of treason.
@ Possum:
Just a guess: that thread has a lot of youtubes. IE may choke on a lot for some reason.
I seriously doubt b. Hussein’s benediction of ‘God bless America’.
Geraldo’s really grasping at straws in his effort to make Obama into something other than a Chicago thug.
“I’ve got a million questions about how it’s going to be paid for.”
Hey, here’s a thought: Maybe you should have brought those questions up BEFORE they passed the fucking bill, you dumbass.
Sean Galt wrote:
Hello, I’m from the IRS: I’ll need everyone to put all their money in the bag before leaving this site.
Thanks!
Be back next year.
Geraldo, you really are a moron
I just read some dumbass claiming this changed millions of peoples lives. I guess my mother going to jail because she can’t afford healthcare, makes too much to get public assistance, and her boss is not required to offer healthcare due to small number of employees; this does qualify as change.
Plus I guess I’m headed to jail too. I have VA medical, but can only get sick during office hours M-F. So since I can’t get public assistance, and am unemployed, means that as soon as I try to get medical help, I go to jail too.
Change you can believe in.
I’m no conspiracy theorist but then again maybe I’m just stupid.
I am just sick. Did any R vote yea?
They’ve forgotten Scott Brown
we need to remind them
song_and_dance_man wrote:
He’s smug because he has pleased his puppet masters.
Fox needs to rid themselves of Geraldo Revolver. I think he has a hard on right now.
@ Mars:
It’s certainly going to change the lives of the employees of all those health insurance companies that are going to be forced out of business.
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Unless he specifically states “the G-d of Abe, Ike and Jake” I will assume he is invoking Stan aka allah/Molech/Ashtoreth/et al.
@ newsjunkie_ky:
Not a one.
@ lobo91:
Geraldo really is spinning.
Never in the History of America has a bigger dumbfuck served as Speaker of the House
newsjunkie_ky wrote:
Hey {newsjunkie_ky), I feel sick too. I just can’t believe this is happening.
Now’s the time for us to come out swinging.
@ chickadee:
His masters are unknown, but I would surmise the groupthink slaves of the god of this world.
Maybe he is a satanist. They do exist.
Rodan wrote:
The world is run by C students. This country is no exception.
Illegal? Actually, moronism seems to be a growth industry.
Did anyone hear the Democrat Congrescritters this evening? Morons, the lot of them, but well paid.
Hollywood. Need I elaborate?
Michael Moore is not only a moron, but a slovenly unkempt one, but quite wealthy.
Morons ran GM and Chrysler into the ground, and were paid $Hunreds of Millions for their services.
In the financial industry, morons made large loans to people with no money, for homes they could not afford (encouraged by the aforementioned Congressional morons) and made a tidy sum for their services as well.
Being unemployed, I think that exhibiting some moronic traits may well be to my advantage. I’m not looking for anything major, perhaps just “Asst. Moron” at some smaller company. I’m willing to learn, but it seems they always want experience. I’m sure if I could get an interview, I could supress my intellect and give some moronic answers.
Is there yet a book out called “Moronism for Dummies”?
Doppelganger wrote:
And she pulled it off anyway.
wrote:
Ain’t no cooties there, except for a lotta embedded videos. Quit looking at it and it’ll go away.
BenZacharia
Unless he specifically states “the G-d of Abe, Ike and Jake” I will assume he is invoking Stan aka allah/Molech/Ashtoreth/et al.
He is not the protectorate of the righteous for sure. Your mention of the creatures that require obeisance to the idols of the Ishmael inclined is quite appropriate.
chickadee wrote:
{chickadd} I think we need a group hug. I am now officially afraid of my government.
@ MacDuff:
Yeah, I don’t get it. When I fuck up royally, I get fired.
@ MacDuff:
I’m right there with you.
newsjunkie_ky wrote:
You see how bad I feel? I can’t even do a simple task. {chickadee}
@ newsjunkie_ky:
I got scared when they said the IRS was going to start “enforcing”.
newsjunkie_ky wrote:
None on any vote other than the earlier procedural votes. And that was just one.
Why the hell are they talking about that stupid executive order Obama agreed to sign?
It has almost as much meaning as all those states that passed laws pretending to ban Obamacare.
In other words, zero.
It is not illegal to be a moron in this country.
True and sometimes you can even become the VP of the United States of America!
Democrats to America: Drop dead
The creepiest administration ever. Someone recently said “Obama is the first post-American President.
Have no fear my compatriots. As the brave John Paul Jones once said, “I have not yet begun to fight!”
Everyone recall their history. It took several months before we won our first battle after Pearl Harbor – keep the faith. However, the Japanese Admiral Yamamoto was much brighter than our inane lackey for President.
“I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.”
Now, convince your family and friends to get off their collective asses, get involved, make their voices heard, and break the will of the Democratic party. If 50MM strong tell them to kiss our collective ass, it doesn’t matter what they pass.
This is the beginning of the end for liberalism and we will look over the charred remains of liberals when this is through.
WTF happened to Walter?
75 Walter L. Newton Sun, Mar 21, 2010 8:15:07pm replyquote
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re: #62 wlewisiii
One can pray for that to be the way it works out. Single payer is what we really need.
William
Total nationalized health care is what we need. No private medical business what so ever. All government employees and everyone, from street person to the President get the exact same considerations for health care. That’s the only fair and equalizing way to do it. If every man is created equal, then it should be equal.
@ FishOrCutBait:
Yeah, that’s worked really well in the UK…
This vote is a relief actually, I’m glad it’s over. Maybe now I can get a good nights sleep and my blood pressure will return to normal.
@ FishOrCutBait:
Walter L. Newton is a stooge and a punk who will say or do anything to keep his posting rights on an obscure blog. A real man of character.
@ MrPaulRevere:
I’ll get a good night’s sleep after I get a job.
Which is probably significantly less likely to happen now.
lobo91 wrote:
Yes, I recall. Late 40s, and you’ve gotten nary a nibble, right? There’s something very wrong in this country. Not only the unemployment rate, but what I percieve as age discrimination.
@ FishOrCutBait:
Yeah, that’s the ticket, we all get Congress’ health care plan./
Now all we need is for Soros to go ahead with his plan to crash the derivatives market and it will be lights out and no chance of return to freedom by human endeavor.
Nytol
@ newsjunkie_ky:
The dems who foisted this travesty on us know it is not going to work. They see what is going on with medicaid and medicare. How are all the pitfalls, graft, mismanagement and incompetence in those small programs going to magically disappear and the new massive entitlement health care system for 300 million people is then going to run smoothly and effectively and save money. roflmao.
And we are supposed to trust these grifters? Who have fcked every social program they have sold us.
They are going to continue to suck more and more from us and leave us with Health care not worth having.
It never was abt. Health care. It was always abt. power and redistribution of wealth. And the fcking grifter-n-chief freely admitted it. fck the idiots who just smiled and voted for him anyway.
@ MacDuff:
Yup. Whenever things do start to turn around, people like us are going to be the last ones hired.
The 20-somethings who have no experience are much cheaper.
@ lobo91:
Or, they are afraid that your experience will put you in their chair soon after they hire you.
Wow. This from Megan McArdle?
Having employers provide health care means that they face sharply higher costs for hiring those over 40.
Just like minimum wage discriminates against the young and experienced, employer provided health care discriminates against the old.
Every government employment regulation has the effect of reducing employment for someone.
lobo91 wrote:
I’ve been there before and moved into another field. The pay cut hurts, but there is always the challenge of learning in a whole new industry.
That is new to the experience.
@ lobo91:
Just turning 40 next month, three years without a job of quality. And this is after having just received my degree in 07.
@ MrPaulRevere:
LGFoosballs A blog that use to play on a 100 yard field to a blog played on an enclosed 3X5 table.
That’s now, it won’t be long before we long for good ole days of those tiny amounts.
@ BenZacharia:
Can we return to the good old days of Carter?
mjazz wrote:
Right!!! Drinks are on me!
Regards,
Ted Kennedy
@ chickadee:
I can hear it now. Some future Tranzi Prog will offer a Health Care Lock Box once the entitlement nears insolvency.
@ lobo91:
Then again they appreciated the fact that I showed up everyday and not hungover and did have experience.
One dude didn’t show up and didn’t even bother calling in and still managed to keep his job. Back in the day that meant instant firing.
@ FishOrCutBait:
It used to be the Super Bowl of blogs, now its the foosball table of blogs.
@ song_and_dance_man:
Nah…they’ll just lie about the numbers, the way they just had the CBO lie about this crap.
We didn’t have this problem when I worked for the NM legislature. We had the equivalent of the CBO that would provide cost estimates of bills, but unlike the CBO, they were actually independent. They based their calculations on reality, and actual economic projections.
Someone last night had a good comment about the way CBO does things: “If they’re told to include a pot of gold guarded by a unicorn in their calculatios, that’ what they do. Doesn’t mean it’s gonna happen, though.”
@ FishOrCutBait:
Fact check your ass is a long lost cause there nowadays. Foster is now the ass checker. Be prepared to be violated if you must show it.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
Racist site…they only play with little white balls now!
It’s a punch in the gut because you really want to believe there are some responsible adults running this nation. At least enough dems who will have the balls to stand up to a full on anti-American radical commie like zero. It is so disappointing to know that they are all sell out weaklings. They have sided with the enemy . . . . the president of this county.
*Warning: Language*
Hey no stalking now. Just send inkblot over.
song_and_dance_man wrote:
LOL Proof and links no longer necessary. Garbage in…garbage out!
mjazz wrote:
Pam Geller and Robert Spencer have a book coming out with that title.
@ lobo91:
That sounds like a snork comment.
So, the trillion ducat estimated must be faulty. That is bad news.
All of us are very upset and depressed today so I think you will all give me a pass on saying this…. somehow during WWII having murdered 6 million Jews, somehow george soros escaped that fate… too bad for Jews and pretty much the entire planet that that one lousy evil fuck survived! It really seems from all I have read over the years that none of what happened today would have without the hand of soros. If hell exists, i hope he has special treatment there, in the worst of ways. sorry for being so ugly.
snork wrote:
@ WrathofG-d:
aladam, it’s always reduced to language, alladammit.
“0″(pronounced zero) is no moron. He’s a lying, conniving back-room, commie-socialist with no love for America.
I do not wish him well.
Fuck him and his paid for Congress and Senate.
10 years of taxes to support 6 years of spending comes out even. Wait till it goes to 10 years of taxing and spending, betcha they’ll be shocked, shocked I tells ya when it doesn’t work.
I’m logging off. I am so pissed off that I need to find a distraction from all this bullshit brought about by the LIAR in the Democratic Party.
God save America!
If anyone is interested in who voted for this piece of shit bill I can post all 219 aye votes. Oh and the one republican vote CAO (R-LA) I will have to do it in 3 or 4 blocks I hope, if I can not you can go to oprncongress.org and get them.
sorry opencongress.org
Ayes: 220 (Democrat: 219; Republican: 1) Nays: 215 (Democrat: 39; Republican: 176) Abstained: 0 (Democrat: 0; Republican: 0)Required percentage of ‘Aye’ votes: 1/2 (50%)Percentage of ‘aye’ votes: 50%Result: Passed
Having to hear pelosi and obama’s voice from this moment on literally makes me feel ill. Burn in hell mutha fukas.
So that I don’t have to visit that honeypot called LGF, what does Icarus have for health care, besides a ticking time bomb of an ginormous ass that his heart is forced to pump with blood? Can you imagine the strain? No wonder is head is starved for oxygen.
Is Chuck an Bomba parasite living off another man’s pocketbook? I’ll bet he’s a frickin leech.
Clean up in the White House.
@ Conservative Democrat:
Mainly interested in ‘our friends’ the blue dog dems.
@ song_and_dance_man:
Faulty? It’s outright fraud.
For starters, they intentionally left the “doc fix” out of the calculations, even though that was the price of getting the AMA to sign on. That’s somewhere between $300 and $500 billion right there.
So much for the $100 billion in “savings” for the first decade.
And the part about how it’s going to save $1 trillion in the second decade? There’s no way in hell they can accurately project medical costs that far out. Half the drugs and procedures they’ll be using then don’t even exist today.
If you want a good laugh, look up the projections they used to sell Medicaid back in 1965. They were off by a factor of 100.
it has just begun. Nothing would make me more happy if nancy and bambi are in jail by the end of the year. It’s not okay for me to really say what I hope for so its jail for public record.
@ Conservative Democrat:
Nope. Cao voted for the rule this morning, but voted against the bill. 100% no from the R’s.
We’ve got exactly one Democrat for representative in my reddest of red states and he gave Bomba the one finger salute.
Afraid my state who voted 2 to 1 against Zero can’t do much more to help with a vote.
WOW Opencongress.org just crashed from traffic, sorry I will try again later.
@ snork:
according to Opencongress.org (which has just went down) he is in the AYE catagorie…Just writin what I see (well did see)
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Yep, been there, done that. Got a job, with a massive pay cut, that required 14 hour days (including air travel back and forth). The schedule required masssive amounts of caffeine (when Starbucks clerks look at you funny for ordering a large coffee, with 3 shots of espresso, you know you’ve reached the limit). The result was a stroke and resulting seizures. I worked my way back, but still take a plethora of meds (anti-seisure drugs, pain meds for headaches, tranquilizer to keep my hands from shaking and panic attacks).
I had to walk away or face another stroke. Employers sense my age and, even though i’ve made it clear that my health insurance is taken care of through my wife’s job, I’ve received not even a nibble and now, at 57, a nibble would be a miracle. Unemplyment in my state is 10.7% and even Obama’s people are saying it’s going to hover arount 9% for the balance of the year. This health care fiasco will only make things worse.
SS Disability? I’d probably not be deemd eligible. Now if I was a single, unemployed female, popping out babies for more checks, no problem.
Screw this system that punishes a productive life and rewards an unproductive one.
@ MacDuff:
Can I get an amen?
you betcha!
Re-posting because I am really pissed:
I want something. After years of paying taxes and paying insurance premiums, being a good citizen, believing in self-sufficiency, taking care of myself and my family, I want something.
I could not participate in the “cash for clunkers” because my 1997 Saturn’s gas mileage was too high, while others were trading in there 12 mpg trucks for 3500-4500 dollar credits on new vehicles.
I want something for me and my wife. If I have to lie I want something. We make too much for assistance and too little for comfort.Now we have to pay for health care for others. I want the government off my back and allow me to provide for myself. So help me, I will take advantage of any socialist programs available if that is what is necessary to survive.I’m tired of being governments bitch.
I’m telling you guys and gals, Bongo just handed us a gift to boot a bunch of sorry asses down the pike if we don’t despair. People are now involved which is something the Conservative/Libertarian party hasn’t had in a long time.
We’ll play the leftist game now of tying up the courts, litigation, and states “deeming” what we think appropriate if we stick together. Let this POS ride the wave for a week, and in about six months will wipe that smirk off Bongo’s face with a collective punch to the jaw, breaking it hopefully.
See…
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2010/03/fire-pelosi-what-we-won-tonight.html
The left has declared war on us. It is not possible they can win.
We out number them, we are smarter than them and we have the righteous cause of freedom on our side.
I can sense the indignation and outrage welling up in the people of America.
We will NOT put up with this. We will never accept the tyranny of kings and dictators.
Haven’t logged checked in in weeks, but just wanted to drop by and add my voice to those who are pretty chapped about this.
Talked to a family member tonight who is a small business owner (the ones supposedly who send Obama 40,000 letters a day) and this bill will hurt him in many ways, not the least of which is higher taxes.
I suppose the silver lining is that the Dems have succeeded in infuriating a majority of voters who won’t forget this anytime soon.
@ BatGuano:
I can understand that, but the fight is not yet over, many things can happen…we will see.
I for one intend to resist this law, I will not get insurance and I will fight the “fine” in court as unconstutional. my new saying is this:
I will rather die a free man, than to suffer socialism or tyranny.
@ BatGuano:
I’m right there with you. We pay through the nose for insurance and medical expenses, but at least we have our freedom to choose. For now.
Well, I’m going to go watch tonight’s episode of The Pacific, and go to bed.
Maybe that will cheer me up.
@ Bunk X:
Yeah there is a cootie, and yeah it is connected to the embedded thingy, and yeah if you disable shockwave that page is OK.
When I have time I will try to narrow it down to which video.
Buuuurrrp!
President Bomba will become the LGF of politics: scorned, mocked, ridiculed, and hated when we’re through with him.
And BatGuano, it probably doesn’t mean a damn thing to you, but I admire honesty, self-sufficiency and commitment from a person regardless of your wealth. There is no monetary value worth giving those up. There’s too few of you anymore.
Don’t change on account of a few scumbags. Without folks like you and your family, then I would give up hope.
@ chickadee:
I’m with you on that.We can not put up with this anymore.
Good night
bless all you patriots who love this country
It’s just a minor skirmish that has awakened us. And now we’ll haul out the big guns.
Conservative Democrat wrote:
I agree!
@ blueiris:
Freedom. For now.That is the way it is.
@ Goodbye_Natalie:
I’m still here, clinging to my values.
@ chickadee:
Goodnight, Chickadee.
As much as I would love to stick around tonight, I must retire….MANY things to do tommorow..
good night all!
@ Conservative Democrat:
Goodnight, Conservative Democrat.
Now let it work. Mischief, thou art afoot,
Take thou what course thou wilt!
In a nutshell…………
http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/RAPH6969/IAN.jpg
It’s interesting (and downright sick) that Zero is using the “victory” word when it comes to his defeat of the American people and democracy in the U.S. by the Dems passing this monstrous and unpopular legislation.
He refuses to use the word “victory” as a goal when it comes to fighting against enemies who murder our civilians and kill our soldiers.
This is no accident.
His only goal when it comes to “victory” is seeking it against the United States of America.
Have a great week all and remember you are only beaten if you give up.
@ Eliana:
Eliana, we know what he is.
@ MrPaulRevere:
I give up. That means I’m beaten.
Mars wrote:
If her boss were required, he’d probably have to lay her off anyway because of the enormous cost.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
True that.
BatGuano wrote:
I hear ya.
I’m seriously considering closing down the business and letting someone else pay my way for a while.
Nilla wrote:
If you can, do so. We are stretched to the limit. My wife and I are seriously looking into taking advantage of any government programs available.
BatGuano wrote:
I cut my tax liability down by about 10K in the last year in response to Obama’s election. Let’s see if I can zero it out for next year.
Nilla wrote:
BTW, guess which way the stock market’s gonna go tomorrow.
Welcome to Socialism, folks. No more employees either, as businesses are gonna continue laying off big time. New workers will be on a contract basis, per job/project, with no job security.
I CAN’T WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER.
song_and_dance_man wrote:
He is thanking Allah tonight. Good.
Good night, all.Good luck Nilla!
@ Bunk X:
It’s probably going to take a fucking dive!
President Obummer: Allah you are health insurance are belong to the government now.
Just thought I’d stop by to see how you guys were takin’ the news.
Haven’t been online much lately. Lost my Dad a few weeks back.
Couldn’t even remember my password or email I used to register back when it was LGF2.0.
It’s just me though, Owl. And because of what the tyrant king and pelosi the traitor did tonight( along with the other socialists) I’m mad as hell.
I am gonna trie to post all the Aye votes, last time I tried the site was overloaded. You can go to: Opencongress.org
Ayes: 220 (Democrat: 219; Republican: 1)
Macker wrote:
NFS
@ Conservative Democrat:
Who was the one republican bastard?
November 07, 2009 Roll call number 887 in the House Question On Passage: H R 3962 Affordable Health Care for America Act Ayes:
220 (Democrat: 219; Republican: 1)
Nays: 215 (Democrat: 39; Republican: 176)
0bstained: 0 (Democrat: 0; Republican: 0)
Required percentage of ‘Aye’ votes: 1/2 (50%)Percentage of ‘aye’ votes: 50%Result: Passed Republicans Voting ‘Aye’
Name Voted
Rep. Anh Cao [R, LA-2] Aye
That is all the aye votes listed….one republican, one lousy asshole to make it “bipartisan” Bull shit…I wonder what he got? Hope it enought to leave the country and move to china.
@ Bunk X:
Yeah, I think we really need to know which scumbag voted for it, this way it cannot be denied later on. Or becomming lost before the upcomming elections.
Conservative Democrat wrote:
It’s already a matter of public record, and it won’t be lost. I’m kinda pissed right now, so don’t take it personally.
These may be the only “democrats that my be able to argue they did not vote…againg to try to save their asses.
Democrats Voting ‘Nay’
Name Voted
Rep. John Adler [D, NJ-3] Nay
Rep. Jason Altmire [D, PA-4] Nay
Rep. Brian Baird [D, WA-3] Nay
Rep. John Barrow [D, GA-12] Nay
Rep. John Boccieri [D, OH-16] Nay
Rep. Dan Boren [D, OK-2] Nay
Rep. Frederick Boucher [D, VA-9] Nay
Rep. Allen Boyd [D, FL-2] Nay
Rep. Bobby Bright [D, AL-2] Nay
Rep. Ben Chandler [D, KY-6] Nay
Rep. Travis Childers [D, MS-1] Nay
Rep. Lincoln Davis [D, TN-4] Nay
Rep. Artur Davis [D, AL-7] Nay
Rep. Thomas Edwards [D, TX-17] Nay
Rep. Barton Gordon [D, TN-6] Nay
Rep. Parker Griffith [D, AL-5] Nay
Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin [D, SD-0] Nay
Rep. Tim Holden [D, PA-17] Nay
Rep. Larry Kissell [D, NC-8] Nay
Rep. Suzanne Kosmas [D, FL-24] Nay
Rep. Frank Kratovil [D, MD-1] Nay
Rep. Dennis Kucinich [D, OH-10] Nay
Rep. Betsy Markey [D, CO-4] Nay
Rep. James Marshall [D, GA-8] Nay
Rep. Eric Massa [D, NY-29] Nay
Rep. Jim Matheson [D, UT-2] Nay
Rep. Mike McIntyre [D, NC-7] Nay
Rep. Michael McMahon [D, NY-13] Nay
Rep. Charles Melancon [D, LA-3] Nay
Rep. Walter Minnick [D, ID-1] Nay
Rep. Scott Murphy [D, NY-20] Nay
Rep. Glenn Nye [D, VA-2] Nay
Rep. Collin Peterson [D, MN-7] Nay
Rep. Mike Ross [D, AR-4] Nay
Rep. Heath Shuler [D, NC-11] Nay
Rep. Ike Skelton [D, MO-4] Nay
Rep. John Tanner [D, TN-8] Nay
Rep. Gene Taylor [D, MS-4] Nay
Rep. Harry Teague [D, NM-2] Nay
@ Conservative Democrat:
I’ll leave those up. Thanks.
coo the reference is : Opencongress.org
do what you want, use it in any manner deemed fit!
@ Conservative Democrat:
Didn’t mean to get all humpy and stuff. Maybe things will be better tomorrow, and there will be a silver bullet fired from the forehead of an unnamed unicorn.
Hell I seen it and just broke out my JW red and a Montecristo!
and actually cried, for the first time in my life I actually cried for the fate of our Nation.
Donated to the RNCC.
Well, how bad could it be? In Denmark I only paid 49.5% income tax at minimum wage for the doctor I could never see. Fair deal, right? With the VAT, sin taxes and everything else I coulda lived outside the home in the ass-end of the Copenhagen Metropolitan area if I had 4 or 5 jobs. This’ll really help the little guy.
Good morning, y’all.
Good morning Goddess & all here.
@ RIX:
{RIX}
I lurk but never post much. But today I can honestly say that for the first time, I’m horrified by my gov’t. I’ve been perplexed by them. I’ve been angry at them, But until last night, never horrified. The Founding Fathers must be spinning in their graves at 100,000 RPM.
@ Haephestus:
{Haephestus}
The truth shall set us free. We have the advantage of KNOWING what damage this will do, so we will act instead of just waiting and seeing.
@ Haephestus:
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
Thomas Jefferson
RIX wrote:
We saw tyranny in our gov’t for the first time since Lincoln. I thought I’d never live to see it. Hopefully, when the details of this become public, people will revolt. I’m becoming more and more convinced that, if this continues, there will be open conflict in this country within my lifetime. This is the sort of thing that set off the Revolutionary and Civil Wars.
The coup d’etat is now in full swing.
Our government has made it clear now that we are
mere chattels.
They will plunder the middle class & redistribute the wealth.
Next up, Comprehensive Immigration Reform.
159. conservative democrat
and actually cried, for the first time in my life I actually cried for the fate of our Nation.
When you stop crying, try voting for the other party.
Just an idea.
Good morning fellow patriots!
Please do not fall for those Ds who voted Nay,clear them out. They were given permission to vote by Pelousy.Another cynical contemptuous gesture to the American people in order to keep those seats.
Bloodied but not bowed, I must get ready for my Visigoths.
They’re more civilized than the Democrats…
@ goddessoftheclassroom:
{goddess}
Without a doubt!
Mornin’ ya’all
Good morning Trader. Of course you’re right.
The Dems that voted no had permisssion.
Stupak should be ashamed, he actually attacked “The Stupak Amendment.”
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
for your penance you must say 100 declarations, 100 article I sect 8′s, Contemplate on the federalist papers, and claim exempt.
@ RIX:
Morning RIX.
A pox on them all.
A coincidence that the largest abortion mill in the USA is opening this spring?
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/local/100118-group-protest-planned-parenthood-facility
RIX wrote:
excommunication if the bishops would stick to their guns
goddessoftheclassroom wrote:
Good morning beautiful…
vagabond trader wrote:
An abortion mill you say. Didn’t they recently elect an openly gay mayor?
The Dear Leader likes abortions.
If the baby happens to be born alive, he wants the error
corrected.
RIX wrote:
Yup, wouldn’t want to punish anyone with a baby ya know…
As I have droned before,this has very little to do with healthcare. It is massive fraud perpetrated on the middle class in order to subsidize the so called “disenfranchised”, grab their vote, retain power and control.
@ doriangrey:
Morning Dorian.
Horse hockey. If you’ll think back, this same house passed a bill of attainder last year.
So, I see the worthless swine got their USSR v2.0… Two words for them: Moscow 1993…
And may the Botox Bitch rot alive.
Hellcare isn’t the only issue angering Americans.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/03/voter_backlash_beyond_obamacar.html
An exercise in logic.
Premise of Declaration of Idependence.
Governments are instituted among men to secure G-d given rights.
The Constitution is the codification of that.
teh 0 and many others declare that abortion is a right.
Which god says that is a right?
Molech, among others.
Which G-d says it isn’t?
The G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Therefore which god to they follow?
No googling for the answer.
PrincessNatasha wrote:
When she finds herself in hell, she will be screaming… but I dont belong here… And Satan himself will rake his claws across her face and scream at her OH YES YOU DO… REMEMBER WHAT YOU DID TO AMERICA…
hey folks let me ask you a question.Why would these braindeads equate this Trojan horse to the civil rights bill? I think I know.This is all about black people. How could it be interpreted any different.
Everything about Obama has become a racist thing. Reminds me of OJ.He could have cut the throats of the judge on camera and they would let him off. Racism..it conquers all. If I said anymore I’m sure I would be arrested.
vagabond trader wrote:
And you are absolutely right… Well, looks like I get my wish to fight commies post-Cold War after all… Like I droned on and on before, I did not leave a communist hellhole just to have it imposed on me here. I have nowhere to run. It’s roll over and die or fight and have a chance at life.
doriangrey wrote:
I wish I had your faith.
If I hear that ******** Muslim voice one more time I might shoot the gd t.v.
@ Grimcargo:
We thought the very same thing Grim.Once in a while the Ds have to renew their bond with their modern day plantation dwellers by tossing out a little cake.They don’t actually care about them,just need the vote.The soft bigotry of leftists in full view. See my #182.
@ BenZacharia:
If only they were something as straight-forward as Satanists… These mutants believe The State is a deity and they are its High Priests, while all productive individuals are just fodder. You know, I forgot who it was, but they objected to me calling tyrants and supporters of tyranny “non-human”… I still stick to my opinion. No one who wants that much power and control over others’ lives deserves the title of a human being. It is an evil, mutated, parasitic life form and should be treated as such.
PrincessNatasha wrote:
In this world Justice may be a flighty and passing thing, but to the Almighty God, it is no small matter to be debated or quibbled upon by lawyers. The Almighty god cannot be bought off with bribes, he cannot be outmaneuvered by crafty lawyers or caught up on fine or obscure points of law the meanings of which are questionable or debatable.
Sorry Dorian, nice thought though.
The adversary is not in charge of the abode of the enemies of Ha’Shem. Misery loves company, they are isolated and without any contact whatsoever. That was their choice. Now you know the true meaning of Pro-Choice.
Someone exercised their first amendment right
http://www.breitbart.tv/house-member-appears-to-yell-baby-killer-at-stupak/
vagabond trader wrote:
amen
173. BenZ.
Hey bud. Need to run. Chat later.
Get it now America.
No where to hide, no place to put your head in the sand now.
Join the local death, tax and spend cult, or fight for freedom.
They now give you no choice.
http://www.blowoutcongress.com
Stupak first.
Peloi no. two.
Good Morning pipples…///did something happen yesterday?
They print/manufacture money/debt. They can manufacture votes just as readily and display they have the immorality to do it.
mawskrat wrote:
Heh… I’d say a communist revolution happened. Why won’t that rotten corpse stay in the shit-can of history where it belongs is anyone’s guess…
Anyone wringing their hands over the supposed racist slurs and assault during tea party protests. You decide if this guy is credible.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/John_Lewis_invoking_George_Wallace_says_McCain_and_Palin_playing_with_fire.html
My Democrat Congressman was “undecided” on his vote as late as Saturday.
I never for a minute believed that he was undecided & he did vote for it yesterday.
We are a Republican District & this guy is gone.
@ RIX:
Thought I read Kucinich voted No. If true, this is proof that Ds were given the go ahead to vote the bill down for show. Get rid of all Ds just to be sure.
He was scheduled to be honored at the Susan B Anthony Pro Life Gala
this coming Wednesday.
Maybe Obama will have him over to the White House to watch the NCAA
Championship Game.
@ RIX:
and drink a beer or five. Astonishing how cheaply this immoral political slut was purchased.
I don’t think that he did. That flight on Air Force One & his wife being able to work on some project with Michelle turned him.
His only objection was that it is not “Single Payer”
mornin folks
have some coffee.
time to roll up your sleeves, spit on your hands, and prepare to fight.
day by day
@ RIX:
Naw, he already deleted Stupak from his phone directory while noting in his diary to mention Stupak as a used-up useful tool in his second edition memoirs.
A Canadian gets it and understands. As well what he says on why a Canadian follows American politics so closely is one of the reasons why I do so.
I had never heard of Stupak before this debate. The guy is a complete
fraud.
Even the Obama mob has to see him as a traitor.
Winston Churchill
“Never give in,NEVER give in,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER!
@ RIX:
No matter,those Ds who voted no are still the enemy and not to be trusted.
Well he did kick Grannie to the curb, so blowing off Stupak would be nothing. But he still might let him come over to keep running for
beer.
Trader, I agree with that. The Dems that voted no had permission to.
If their votes were needed they would have been in lockstep.
Stupak comes out of this as the poster boy for betrayal.
He has just destroyed his own reputation.
@ PaladinPhil:
Good essay.Obowma is loathe to pursue victory against our enemies,but declares it against the American people.
OT comedy relief:
Tiger Woods says in his most recent interview: “I tried many time to stop (fucking hot women) but I couldn’t, it was horrible.”
That would make a great T-shirt.
@ vagabond trader:
You have to understand. It is all in who he considers the Enemy.
Theme music for our country going down the old shitter
This is why you lost… listen to yourselves:
“I can hear it now. Some future Tranzi Prog…”
“…stand up to a full on anti-American radical commie like zero.”
“He’s a lying, conniving back-room, commie-socialist with no love for America.”
“Welcome to Socialism, folks.”
Only in 2010 America can handing the insurance companies 30 million new customers, without price controls or a public option, be described as Socialist.
This is why you lost. For some crazy reason, the Republicans, who actually had a bunch of valid concerns about the bill decided to leave the PR work to the most extreme fringes of politics. The fringe where name calling and fear mongering replace discourse and compromise.
Rather than seek consensus and work on specific health care policy (something all admit is desperately needed) the Republicans decided to go with the scorched Earth theory. By stopping Obama here it was hoped that he would be rendered a lame duck after a little more than a year in office, unable to legislate and opening the door for a mid-term Republican sweep.
Ooops. Hey, going all in takes balls and nobody disputes your courage but it might have turned out differently if rather than being obstructionist the Republicans had tried the negotiation route. The Dems did this during the debate over the first Bush tax cuts and it turned out okay. Believe me, we didn’t like them any more than you like this. Yet, somehow the country survived.
So, what now? Are you going to act as real patriots work within the bounds of the law and the ballot box to help make America the place you feel it should be or go back to ranting on the radio, waving signs around and looking under the bed for commies.
I was really fascinated that Pelosi claimed that this Bill will promote the entreprenurial spirit, because you can change jobs & not lose coverage.
Um, entrepreneurs do not go to new employers, they start businesses.
RIX wrote:
How would she know?
@ RIX:
Yea, as the lady was ranting against the tea partiers in NO she was saying we all need jobs, thus missing the point. We need more people creating jobs.
The Dow and all other futures are down? Hum. I wonder why?
@ fultonchain:
the R’s did try to work with the Dems and they said “FUCK YOU,WE WON!”
so don’t try to peddle that bullshit here, we know better
.
That is disingenuous. You know or should know that Repblicans were largely locked out of the negotiations. In at least one case the door was literally locked.
You are just giving Dem talking points.
@ rain of lead:
He does use a lot of words doesn’t he? Likes to hear itself type while worshipping its on intellect.
Today I am ordering my State of origin and heritage’s flag to fly during the counter attack against the Demcong. I will not fly the flag of The United Socialist States of Alinsky until the Republic is restored.
I will be under the colors of The Commonwealth of Virginia.
Sic Semper Tyrannis
The encyclopedia is a compilation of things that Pelosi does not know.
@ RIX:
Yep, two words, Paul Ryan.
The gimmee, gimmee types will never see that.
They think that the gubmint should take care of them & the people
actually footing the bill should shut up.
There will be a day of reckoning. Vote these bums out.
Ryan & Erik Cantor are rising stars.
@ fultonchain:
I’m glad you feel that way. I want the Republicans in the Senate to filibuster everything that comes down the pike from now until November. This Senate and Congress has shown themselves to be unfit to make law (did you miss Alcee Hastings saying that there are no rules when the Democrats want to get things done? It is not over the top to call that authoritarian, maybe even totalitarian). Let the next Congress deal with anything that needs to be dealt with.
There is anger in the country today. Anger like I have never seen before. More anger than there was in 1994, when we threw the Democrats out for the first time in 40 years. We have to keep that anger alive, and keep it focused until November. We can’t win the war abroad until we win the one at home. The Progressives intend to make Khrushchev’s prophecy come true, and destroy us from within. We can’t let that happen.
@ Iron Fist:
Damn straight!
RIX wrote:
She was thinking of all the people who can now leave their sixty hours of day jobs to work part time and persue carrers in marketing their fingerpaintings at Fisherman’s Warf
@ fultonchain:
Do tell.Who will be paying for those of the “30 million”(a bs figure) who have no visible means of support and why should my working family be compelled to do so when we have a tough enough time paying for our own needs.Subsidizing the children and adult “children” of strangers is not my job.People like you,always looking for freebies off someone elses back,then having the stones to call those who resist selfish. Disingenuous to say the least.
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/K/k/1/socialism_explained.jpg
and this
http://www.weaselzippers.net/.a/6a00e008c6b4e5883401310fc84151970c-pi
Take it to Kos.
@ fultonchain:
lol,only have to look at 1600 and Capitol Hill.
Protest/dissent is patriotic. ‘member?
@ vagabond trader:
Don’t worry, be Happy! The government will take all that excess money you have so that you don’t need to worry about it anymore. Instead of wondering which college you will send your children to, which Lexus to buy (I like the convertables), or where to vacation, you can worry about where the next meal’s gruel will come from. Progress!
what thiFor too many years, America has been attacked quietly – the serpent waiting patiently for his prey, striking only periodically. Starting primarily with the New Deal, incremental socialism as President Reagan famously observed, has been slowly eating away at the great American fabric of individual self-reliance, personal responsibility and limited government… Government program by government program, inch-by-inch, career politician-by-career politician… Democrat AND Republican. For decades, you have been losing your God-given and hard-fought birthright of freedom as surely as the vote that slapped you in the face yesterday.
But now… now, you know. Your enemy is clear. And the enemy has made clear their intentions – and that is the complete re-making of America.
Your enemy now is any Democrat – for it is a Party blinded by false notions of compassion, willing to trade liberty for self promotion and so devoid of a soul that innocent life is but a trivial instrument to barter. It is a Party lacking character and it is a Party that simply does not believe in the America of our founding.
But your enemy also is any Republican who is complicit in expanding government at the expense of liberty… Any Republican who would join hands with evil and continue to walk the road of denial, telling you he is fighting for America while he negotiates away her very foundation… And, specifically, any Republican who will not state clearly and succinctly that he will fight each and every day to repeal, de-fund, and otherwise eviscerate the healthcare bill.
And your enemy is the bill itself. For, if we do not repeal this bill, we will have nothing left. We will have forsaken all those who have bled to hand down to us this, the greatest nation the world has ever known – and we will have made a mockery of God’s blessing on this nation.
The time has come to say, “no more.” Not my country. Not on my watch. I will not stand by and let my nation be sold into the chains of tyranny in the false name of compassion. The opening words of the Declaration of Independence were nothing short of magnificent – charting a new course for humanity and laying the foundation for a new world. But, the actual force of the document were not the first words – rather they were the last:
s guy says
…
Second to the top tax bracket here last year here Fulton Chain. The difference in what I pay on a sliding tax scale and a flat tax at all income levels would pay for a year at a privete uni. It is taken from me under threat of violence by my government and give to other humans that I have no fealty to, and are less than animals in their exercise of self control and industry.
Social Justice I suppose?
@ fultonchain:
What an uninfomed view you have. The Democrats never wanted Republican input on this bill and actively eschewed it; how can you possibly blame Republicans for being “obstructionist” when they weren’t even allowed in the negotiation rooms?
Republicans were forced to go outside and make their case directly to the American people and, in that forum they won. Alas, it was the Democrats that disregarded not only the Republicans, but The People.
Yours is the old opinion that “they’re all at fault” when, in this case, the fault lies solely at the feet of the Democrats who actively rejected any sort of bipartisanship.
@ MacDuff:
Hopefully the GOP learned the directly to the people method is the right method going forward.
@ MacDuff:
Wonder when they’ll blame Booooosh. Oh wait…..
RIX wrote:
Actually, most of my talking points came from David Frum. Last I checked he wasn’t exactly known for parroting the Dem line.
fultonchain wrote:
BULL ******SHIT!
@ Mars:
Heh. Turning 41 this year. We could even have a meeting. Earned my MA in 2008, after years of working towards it. What happens upon graduation, but I took a celebratory canoe trip-of-a-lifetime, then returned in time for the economy to circle the drain.