After their recent imposition of a Eugenics based health care reform against the will of the American people, the Progressives are now planning on revisiting Cap-N-Trade. Nevermind the fact that there is no Global Warming and in fact temperatures are cooling, the Left is going after this bill anyway. Assisted by Progressive Republican quisling Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Marxist traitor John Kerry (D-MA) is leading the charge in the Senate. The bill is nothing more than a power grab by the government to impose controls over the economy. This is another step in the Left’s goal of a Neo-Fedual society controlled by Elites.
After a hard-fought victory on health care reform, President Barack Obama’s allies in Congress are setting their sights on climate change — but some on both sides are already crying foul.
Environmentalists hope Obama will seize on new political momentum to push forward climate legislation, though some observers question whether he would seek another divisive vote as November congressional elections approach.
Senator John Kerry, who has spearheaded climate legislation, said that White House officials can now “pour their energy and attention” into the issue after Sunday’s down-to-the-wire vote on expanding health care coverage.
Read the rest: After health, Obama allies zero in on climate
This bill is the ultimate example of how Progressives really believe they are God-like divine beings. Do they really think they can control the weather? Apparently. That is the logic behind the bill, that they can control the climate! This is just another example of the narcissism of the Totalitarian Progressives and their agenda of control.
Update:I am not giving the phony Independent Joe Lieberman (I-CT) a pass here. He’s a Progressive Neo-Wilsonian so he implied also in this post as well. My focus was on the 2 main Culprits, Traitor Kerry and Quisling Lindsey.
(Update Hat Tip: Vagabond Trader)
Tags: Cap-N-Trade, Climate Change, Lindsey Graham
When pigs fly.
Hell, if you can’t beat em, join em. Make this the most expensive, taxing, painful, damaging fucking bill ever thought possible. Hike up gasoline taxes, stop all domestic drilling, shut down the coal power plants today, we are sick of electricity. Make outdoor grilling and lawn mowing illegal. We want clean air damn it. Anything else to tack on to this monstrosity? Just go for it. Cmon, we can beat Obama to the destruction of this country. Can’t we?
Basically, the healthcare bill was rammed through to prove to the Democrats they could do it. Now that they have absorbed “Yes, we can!”, expect them to ram—or maybe Rahm—through a whole raft of disgusting legislation. “Climate change,” amnesty for illegals, the works; they’ve still got 9 months until the new Congress takes office in which to birth an unrecognizable America.
Thomas Sowell says today the Republicans are not guaranteed of taking back either chamber of congress.
we are so doomed. there is no stopping these bastards right now. not until the next Congress is sat and only if we have a majority in at least one of the HoR or the Senate.
kansas wrote:
he’s right, of course. there are no guarantees. 40% of the population still like what these despots are doing.
@ Kirly:
The worst part is that they have a traitor like Ms. Lindsey working for them.
Conservatives in both houses need to man-up, RIGHT THE FUCK NOW!
Tell the traitorous bastards, NOTHING ELSE IS GOING TO GET DONE HERE EVER. WE ARE NOT WORKING WITH YOU EVER AGAIN!
Conservatives in both houses need to stay out of the debates and start hitting the media and their districts 24/7.
NO MORE FUCKING POLITICS AS USUAL!
THIS IS A CIVIL WAR AND A REVOLUTION!
QUIT PLAYING PATTY CAKES!
FUCK YOU ALL, STRONG LETTER TO FOLLOW!
Kirly wrote:
Heck only 42% of Israelis notice that Obama is pro Arab. And I also note that while Harry Reid is unpopular, 50% said they didn’t know enough to form an opinion. I bet that 50% shows up at the polls.
kansas wrote:
Of course they’re not. First, you’ve got to have a viable organization; next, you’ve got to have viable candidates; then, people have to be willing to vote for someone new. Lots of people hate “Congress” but love their guy—even though he’s part of the problem.
Certainly in my part of the world there is virtually no viable Republican party, and when they do manage to field a candidate he is usually a clown. Not to mention that the local electorate is moonbatty as hell, but still there is nobody articulating any alternative for people to even consider; the Republicans have just given up.
Can the Republicans pull it together in enough districts in six months to take things back? Questionable.
kansas wrote:
I understand your frustration. Crash the system so bad that people have to wake up. The more painful and abrupt Zero makes, it the angrier citizens will get. Why let him do it one piece at a time so we tolerate the heat until we boil.
Of course they are enjoying the momentum. They want to kick us when we are down. We just suffered a defeat so why no go for the whole enchilada. THAT is why we cannot EVER give up. We may be losing battles but we MUST win the WAR!
Ulululululululululululululululululu!
We already see signs of Obama calling renewable energy industry a job creator. It is being billed as a new industrial revolution. Put it together with a new currency -- carbon units -- and you have the economy of madness: a huge misallocation, a squandering, of resources from the real economy to a cargo cult. We shall be another Easter Island. Come to think of it, those enormous heads looks like Obama.
“Progressive” means regressive -- the usual socialist inversion of meaning.
@ BenZacharia:
Exactly, Quislings like Ms. Lindsey need to stop being Compassionate and start being Conservative.
@ BenZacharia:
amen…the gloves are off and the American people are behind them!
Rodan wrote:
don’t forget the mccainiac.
This is a goo dthread for this piece by Mark Steyn. It is on the decline of empires, and is a really good (if a touch long) read. Will Americans embrace the decline of our civilization? We are about to find out.
Taking the rest of the day off to work in the yard. Remember, higher taxes, no domestic drilling, freebies for everyone.
And then there is the delightful propaganda move to characterize any political opposition to Obama is “racist”. Tea Parties are racist. Israel is racist. When will Obama realize that Iran is racist?
And then there is the delightful propaganda move to characterize any political opposition to Obama as “racist”. Tea Parties are racist. Israel is racist. When will Obama realize that Iran is racist?
Even some Democrats smell something fishy with stimulus funds designated for green…
“I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.”
Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto
Bring it on. I can’t imagine a better topic with which to castrate them with. If you think Ocare was unpopular, just wait.
Apparently the lawsuit was filed
http://dscriber.com/plugins/content/external_links/frameset.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmyfloridalegal.com%2Fwebfiles.nsf%2FWF%2FMRAY-83TKWB%2F%24file%2FHealthCareReformLawsuit.pdf
@ Overlook:
yes, the similarity in appearance is there but his ego is far too big to fit in one of those.
@ snork:
But Snork, popularity is not important in a democracy run by Democrats.
apparently the lawsuit was filed
@ Overlook:
You’re not racist if you’re on the left or hate Israel…which, is a distinction without a difference these days.
Overlook wrote:
fify
I’ve tried twice to post the link, but wouldn’t work. The lawsuit was apparently filed right after the signing.
notice obama did not sign or mention the EO?
Biden drops the f-bomb at the signing.
newsjunkie_ky wrote:
Or the recon bill. Both are down the memory hole, never to be heard from again.
@ Kirly:
FIFY!
Looks like the ink is drying on the first lawsuit against the Feds, signed in Pensacola, FL a few minutes ago:
I fear that passage of the hell-care bill has set a terrible precedent for how the demoncrats will be able to push through any Orwellian bill to have the ulterior motive of solidifying their hold on power, and keep the American people under their thumb.
Can it truly be 1938 and 1984 at the same time?
What about ‘jobs’…?
When will they be ‘pouring their energy and attention’ into getting people back to work?
*Hello??!?*
*Is this thing on?*
daughter of patriots wrote:
They’re mixing apples an oranges. The law in Virginia that forbids requiring insurance won’t go anywhere because of the supremacy clause, but this suit is something else entirely.
The media is astonishingly stupid.
OT:
AOL states that today, Gas prices are at an all time high….then although Obama has made the budget deficit approx 300x worse since he got into office….blames it ALL on Bush.
@ citizen_q:
This is their changes to create a Totalitarian system.
@ snork:
Yes, we already wasted a bunch of time yesterday arguing past each other about this. Let’s not do it again.
The lawsuits arguing that they don’t have Constitutional authority to impose such a mandate are fine. States passing laws or amendments to their own constitutions trying to bar the feds from doing so are pointless.
Look how Zero is trying to infantilize adult children and keep them dependent on their parents.
They can be kept on Insurance policies until they are 27 years old. This is crippling young people and keeping them hooked on the dole mentality. Looking to the gov’t and their parents long after it is appropriate.
@ WrathofG-d:
Oy.
No mention of banning domestic production.
@ Et Norsk Troll:
They don’t want to put people back to work. 10% unemployment is good for a Socialist Nation, doncha know…
biden f-bomb at signing
snork wrote:
Good point. At least with Obamacare, they could make (empty) promises to The People. “Climate Change” is quite a nebulous and unproven theory and no one is being adversely effected, and no one will really benefit from this legislation -- they will only pay, and pay dearly.
newsjunkie_ky wrote:
Classy.
Ann Coulter forever causing liberal panties to get in a bunch….
@ chickadee:
Who needs parents when we have Big Brother?
@ newsjunkie_ky:
How classy! Fuck Biden, anyway. He was only hired as VP to discourage would-be assassins from targeting Obama…
@ chickadee:
The Healthcare idea infantilizes the entire nation.
@ lobo91:
And the AP just confused the two. And these “journalists” actually get paid for this slop?
@ MacDuff:
I’d have to disagree with that notion.
Congress never passes any significant legislation that nobody benefits from. The trick is to figure out who the beneficiary is.
In this instance, it’s those who have invested heavily in phony “green energy” technologies, carbon permit trading, etc.
@ snork:
That just highlights one of the big problems with the majority of today’s journalists: They majored in journalism, rather than something substantive.
If you don’t actually know anything about the topic you’re writing about, it’s pretty hard to tell when someone’s selling you a bill of goods.
Iron Fist wrote:
Well, of course it is; bring down the standard of living enough and people become amazingly “receptive”.
@ daughter of patriots:
From your quote…
look at that. the legal experts are saying it doesn’t have a chance because Federal laws trump state laws but the suit says the Federal Government has not been granted the right to do this in the Constitution. That is what’s wrong with this country. The sheeple have no idea what their Constitution says or means. And that, of course, is thanks to the progressive communists who have destroyed our educational system. There are no more Civics classes.
lobo91 wrote:
Well, I guess I was thinking about “The People”. Silly me, I forgot for a moment that we no longer count.
@ Kirly:
I’m guessing that whatever “legal experts” they talked to said nothing of the sort, and the idiot who wrote the story confused the two issues.
newsjunkie_ky wrote:
F’ HIM!
@ MacDuff:
Very little that comes out of Congress is intended to benefit “the people” anymore.
It’s usually just a coincidence when it does so.
citizen_q wrote:
so true. the nanny state has destroyed the normal familial relationships. look at france where the young all went on vacation that hot summer and FIFTEEN THOUSAND elderly died from the heat. look at this country (USA) where the elderly are often just abandoned and never even visited by their adult children and grandchildren. it’s disgusting.
@ bar:
I kind of feel bad about this, but that was hilllllarrrrriiiiioooouuuusss!
I think above all else, I just enjoyed the rare unapologetic attitude of it all. They only have as much power over us as we allow them.
@ chickadee:
Its also meant to grab their vote.Parents and “children.” I mean why is this particular bit sooo damned important, but not immediately outlawing the pre existing condition barrier for adults. After all the poor schlubs who were denied coverage he shamelessly paraded at the phony he11care pep rallies, you’d think.They still have to wait years for coverage.
BenZacharia wrote:
Amen. Why isn’t Boehner out there saying, “Remember, we told you nothing else would get done this year if you push health care through.”
No wussing out this time guys.
@ newsjunkie_ky:
13 Plantiff’s….hmmm….where have we seen that before?
lobo91 wrote:
i’m not so sure. their legal experts might just be as stupid as the idiot who wrote that story.
lobo91 wrote:
Kinda like Zero is a Constitutional Scholar and can’t even quote a passage from the document…
@ Iron Fist:
Keep em down,dependent and pliant. Check.
Kirly wrote:
One need look that far. Black families were literally destryed by the welfare state here in this country.
MacDuff wrote:
Better
No legal expert here but there must be other illegalities in this 2400 pile of sheet. How about unequal treatment.Arbitrary goodies for some,nothing for others.
@ MacDuff:
Destroying the traditional family has long been one of the key goals of progressives.
@ SciFiGuy:
exactly!
@ MacDuff:
true. the abortionists are quite happy about that too. racists.
Rodan,please do not give Joe Lieberman a pass on this climate nonsense. Hes part of the cabal, just as he was with he11care.
@ Kirly:
I do remember that. Appalling.
In the eugenic society built upon the “right” of health care, the elderly will be an unjustifiable expense.
Make no mistake, that is not what I want, quite the opposite I mention it to express my horror, but that is what we have to look forward to in the utopia our leaders want for us.
@ Scott Madsen:
You and I are part of the Original 13. Do wwe still have that spirit in us? I like to think YES!
@ WrathofG-d:
I enjoy her wit and how she can say something that at first sounds outlandish and gets the liberal into emotional overdrive. Then she smacks them down with some facts in explaining her position, which makes the liberal appear even more unhinged.
The best comedy…
@ lobo91:
Algore and George Soros.
@ Kirly:
Check out my and RIX’s dialog above. They didn’t even get what they were talking about correct. I agree that there’s a pretty strong legal consensus that the Virginia law against requiring insurance is unconstitutional. But that wasn’t what the article was about.
IOW, it’s even worse that you think.
@ vagabond trader:
I’m not giving him a pass. He’s a Democrat, my focus was on Lindsey Graham and John Kerry. Lieberman is a minor figure here. I’m not fan of his either.
Kirly wrote:
You’re in fine form today.
@ NoThreat2U:
Sic Semper Tyrannis
In order to avoid paying for any hellcare, I denounce my American natural born citizenship and declare myself an illegal alien, here illegally.
Rodan wrote:
With carbon chits trading for a penny on the dollar, it’s a no-lose proposition for those losers holding them. This may just be a Hail Mary coming from them.
@ Scott Madsen:
Maybe the Original 13 need to start a movement al a Tea Parties?
hi kids…
@ bar:
There is a lesson there to all Conservatives and the U.S. in general. The Muslim girl was trying to shame Ann, but Ann wasn’t having any of it. Ann knew her position, could back it up, but above all else wasn’t going to be made to feel bad about it. This took all the arrows out of the Muslim girls quiver. She couldn’t shame Ann because Ann wouldn’t allow herself to be shamed for holding an opinion backed up by facts.
The U.S. needs to learn this lesson and stop granting others power over us constantly as we do when we are continuously apologizing, and defending things that don’t need to be apologized for and defended. (like Abu Gharib)
bar wrote:
Me Snork of Trashcanistan. You give me stuff. Now.
I’ve figured out what “race” to put down on the Census form: Weeda.
As in, “Weeda people of the United States.”
@ savage:
Hello there, the Leftist BS continues.
citizen_q wrote:
understood and i agree with you.
@ Rodan:
Rodan,from the enemy camp:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/donnie-fowler/the-details-of-the-energy_b_504701.html
@ snork:
yeah, i saw that after i commented.
@ NoThreat2U:
Aren’t we the ‘State of Independence’?
@ WrathofG-d:
The times I’ve argued with Muzzies I throw their genocide in their faces. It stuns them and they justify them. I then say well the Serbs were justified at Srbenica and the Lebanese Christians at Sabra and Shatilla. You should see ther faces when I do that.
I love arguing with Muzzies, they are so simple! It’s alsmot like arguing with a 8 year old.
@ Kirly:
Abortionists, crack dealers, pimps…See! The Great Society was a Jobs Creation Act! Look at all the jobs created…
@ vagabond trader:
IOW, farmers get an exemption. The rest of us get urine.
@ Bumr50:
Not quite sure…let me google…..
Heh, we have our own force here with you and I and Scott and Goddess and Coldwarrior. lol
It’s worse than we thought.
At Annual Convention, Chemists Warm to Cold Fusion
Short version: they smell government money. Cold fusion is still crackpottery. But it’s about to become well-funded green crackpotery, unless Chu puts his foot down (and whatever else you may say about Chu, he at least knows this much).
@ snork:
That sob,love the word
CT has one of the highest utility rates in the country as it is.
Thats funny,was just going to cut and paste the same quote.
Kirly wrote:
I got yer Obama Easter Island Head right here…
@ Rodan:
You ought to come out here and see all the bums and neer-do-wells all hooting and hollering about how they get free health care. It’s already started. There is a hospital a few blocks from my house and there is already a line snaking around the building.
PA State motto: Virtue, Liberty and Independence.
Lotsa interesting facts at wiki.
@ The Osprey:
bwaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha!!!!
We are the Keysonte State. I can’t believe I forgot that.
savage wrote:
what??? get a picture of that!
@ Kirly:
I’m gonna head over there in a little bit.
@ snork:
Pretty much all “green energy technology” is crackpottery, when you come down to it. None of it’s economically feasible, and some of it’s not even viable as an energy source (corn-based ethanol come to mind).
Of course, none of that actually matters. All that matters is what the Dems want to pay for with what’s left of our money.
Rush just played a clip of some dumb fck named Carlo saying now that hell care has passed “It’s going to be like Christmas, It’s going to be great, no more worries.”
@ savage:
great! take your video camera and ask them what they are lined up for.
Now Big Tobacco is in on it.
@ chickadee:
A lump of coal in your stocking, bucko….
Meet DeCarlo Flythe: Having insurance ‘going to be like Christmas’
It’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas
Everywhere you go
No more will you have to beg
When the doctors cut off your leg
‘Cause to the government the bill will go
It’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas
Take a number and wait
Because half of the doctors quit
Are you bleeding? Yes, we see it
But we’ve a full plate
A shiny set of store teeth and some pills for relief
Are the wish of Mabel and Mae
If you’re not feeling spry and need an MRI
Then come back in a month of Sundays
And we might have to drop you if you don’t mend your unhealthy ways
It’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas
Since Obamacare passed the House
Because people forgot, of course
That you need to look every gift horse
Carefully in the mouth
@ The Osprey:
We have one of those in cast concrete, its a garden decoration. Think I’ll plop it out front and dress it up this summer for the amusement of the neighborhood.
@ Kirly:
I’ll see what I can do. It’s across the street from the cop shop so maybe I can get some pics of a few well deserved beatings. LOL
@ snork:
I love this sentence out of that article:
In other words, it’s a nice theory, but it doesn’t actually, well, work.
Minor detail. Just give them a few billion dollars, and I’m sure it’ll all be fine.
@ savage:
People were predicting this. But for real…wow! I hope another moocher sound bite comes out of this.
Like the free gas and mortgage and the Obama money out of his stash ones.
Wha we need is some welfare queen on tape clamoring for free Dilaudid out of Zero’s stash!
Hope!
Sales of existing homes fell for a third straight month in February, pushing sales down to the lowest level since last July. There is concern the fragile housing rebound is faltering, making it harder for the overall economy to recover.
@ chickadee:
Just like the 2 women lined up for obama money, or the one from during the presidential campaign who thought the big 0 would take care of her mortgage and other debts.
It would be hilarious to put together a video montage of all these pathetic individuals with a little Max-Headroom stuttering for effect.
Well back from the wars
@ savage:
There is a hospital a few blocks from my house and there is already a line snaking around the building.
Are you serious? Hey Take pictures of that and post it for tonight!
lobo91 wrote:
When they’re doing green shit, they’re not “Big Tobacco”. They’re “green jobs”.
Rodan wrote:
Is that lady who thinks Obama is going to pay her mortgage and gas bill in line?
@ Nevergiveup:
Where’s this line located?
I could use someone to pay my mortgage…
Dang program ate my post, and won’t let me try again.
Pfui on technology.
I am more optimistic I believe the dimwits are toast come Nov. I believe the tea party is basically what those people are at home thinking; ‘YEAH WHAT THEY SAID’
Thirteen State Attorney Generals filed a federal lawsuit today alleging that the federal health care and insurance bill passed by Congress over the weekend, and signed into law by President Barack Obama this afternoon, is unconstitutional.
The heart of the multi-state lawsuit contends that the new federal health care law far exceeds federal legal authority under Article I and the Tenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
The states also contend that the health care reform law imposes an illegal tax penalty against a state’s citizens and legal residents who do not have qualifying health care coverage, a provision that they maintain constitutes an unlawful direct tax that violates Article I, sections 2 and 9 of the U.S. Constitution.
You can read the State Attorney Generals’ lawsuit challenging the new national health insurance law here:
http://blogs.findlaw.com/courtside/2010/03/healthcare-lawsuit-by-state-ags-attacks-health-insurance-law.html?DCMP=ESPcons_breakingdocs
I hope everyone sees the pattern that I’ve been trying to illustrate with these examples: everybody’s going to get on this “green energy” bandwagon, and start slurping up the government slop. Just like Jimmy Carter’s “alternative energy” boondoggle forty-some years ago. Only worse.
We sure got a lot of alternative energy sources out of all of that Carter-era research, dint we?
@ Nevergiveup:
three Jews,four opinions,or however the saying goes.
@ vagabond trader:
And matzoh balls and seltzer all over the place.
What Nancy said: According to high ranking Politburo member Nancy Pelosi these protesters are, “church-going rednecks attending the town hall meetings, and I’ve got to say they make me want to puke” President Obama is trying to make their lives better, and all they want to do is ask questions. Well, I’ve got your answers right here (grabbing her crotch), you filthy, mutant Nazi racists from Hell.”
Let’s hope this *******passes by a mirror and drops dead.
snork wrote:
Here is the chart showing the option ARMs and Alt-A resets which begin in earnest this month then cascade for the next eighteen.
The commercials start too and are a bigger pool. 07/08 was the warm up and most here know that.
What’s in your basement will be the new “what’s in your wallet”
@ NoThreat2U:
Pretty sure Rendell changed it.
Ah. It is our State Tourism “Slogan”.
vagabond trader wrote:
Yeah well I got a few sayings but I’ve calmed down some so that will do I guess.
forgot the chart
http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2007/10/imf-mortgage-reset-chart.html
@ snork:
Cardigan sweaters?
@ Kirly:
The following is by a Conservative
Limiting an Overreaching Federal Government:
Is State Nullification the Solution?
A Constitutional Analysis
by David Barton
@ Scott Madsen:
Dilaudid? shit, man, I want some percocets! Or Demerol. Demerol…yum!
@ Scott Madsen:
Doesn’t mention anything about what happens to the millions with underwater mortgages.They aren’t able to refi are they?
@ lobo91:
I stood in the line three years ago with my wife (gf at the time) and was told I didn’t qualify b/c I didn’t have any kids and made “too much money” ($28,000 combined yearly with me in school)
snork wrote:
A frames and Geodesics dot the Blue Ridge from Harpers ferry to Stone Mountain, a testament to the proto-religion.
@ Scott Madsen:
Damn, not good. I just want my house to sell. Everything can collapse and we can play Road Warrior, but after my house sells…
My people came here in 1633. My family is family of SARs and DARs. They fought and died for Liberty, they fought and died to make all men free. My fore-bearers hanged their share of traitors. Should I do less?
I gotta run over and see if the hordes are still there.
Wish me luck.
@ Bumr50:
I will be so happy to see Rendell gone. Maybe this side of the state can get some goodies. We have numerous nickname according to wiki..The Quaker State is another one. If Speedy Rendell had his way the state would be called Philadelphia.
@ vagabond trader:
I believe so if you qualify for conventional, or reset fixed on the existing. But how many people out their gambled and have just been waiting for the ax to drop since the bubble stopped stewing in 06/07. A lot of swell people may be out sleeping in Land Rovers and Audis among their lessers in parking lots across the land. I hope most are Zerobots.
@ Iron Fist:
I hope so too bro.
I just hope I can get away from the city fast enough with most of the goodies when I need too. They can burn the house, its insured, Whatever the fuck that will mean in Oceania
bar wrote:
I think that’s cheating … but let us know if it works!
We had a good run, but I think the best course, if republicans don’t win big AND work to repeal everything the Dems have done, are doing, and will do, within the next two elections, is a dissolution of the republic.
It’s the only way there will be anywhere, no matter how small, that respects individual liberty and personal responsibility on this planet.
@ Nikis Knight:
I’m afraid I agree with you. Did you read the Steyn article I linked earlier? He says more or less the sam ething. He says that America will break apart if we try to become a bigger version of Sweeden. I reluctantly think that would be for the best, but it still serves the Proggys’ purposes. They want America destroyed. If, say, the Old South survives as a remanent for a while, that’ll be OK. They’ll come for them soon enough. I’d expect some nasty border wars if that happens.
@ Iron Fist:
Ditto.
I have been in a funk since Sunday night. In my head, I’ve been playing the future scenarios out. None of them look good. None at all. we will reach a tipping point.
I am totally dismayed by what has happened. Furthermore, I have myself wondering if we now gotten to the point where 4,5,6 decades of leftism has finally paid off for those bastards because we have a public that is so far removed from the concept of their own freedom that they are not willing to fight for it?
I have been a bear since this went down.
@ Scott Madsen:
Around here,almost exclusively Obots. Fuggem,they are the reason we cannot sell our house,which we paid a fair price for and actually saved up to purchase.My sympathy reservoir is pretty dry right now.
savage wrote:
OH HELL YEAH! hahaha! Go Savage!
I’m betting they already know how to say cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese!
@ Iron Fist:
Yes, read Steyn this morning.
I don’t know if this is the kind of thing we say, but I’m getting more sympathetic to the crazy types. This nonsense is way, way worse than tax on tea and high tariffs. I think the only way to control gov’t growth is to make people worry that they might not get long lives with which to enjoy those cushy, for-life gov’t jobs.
At least, with today’s Americans. This is what happens when a few generations let someone else raise thier children, I think. We have our American values replaced by those who control schools & media.
newsjunkie_ky wrote:
Virginia filed hers, too!
Here’s my view. If I see the circulation of the New York Times, the L.A. Times, the San Francisco Chronicle start to improve, and if MSDNC sees an upward trend in their ratings, and talk radio and Fox News start falling, I’ll worry about the Dems holding on.
By November, some of the first effects of this outrageous bill will start to be felt, and people who believed they were suddenly getting fully paid for health care are going to realize that it was all a joke -- get the $$$$ first and then you can all get to see a doctor -- in 2014. My guess is people aren’t going to be as enthralled with all this come November. Also, as it stands now, let’s see which employers start saying “hey, it’s cheaper to pay the fine than pay for your insurance policies, and since jobs aren’t so plentiful that you’ll leave me to go to another company, I think I’ll cut your health plans loose. And since insurers MUST insure you for pre-existing conditions, well, I know you won’t mind paying $4500 for yourself next year. Oh, and if you’re looking for that raise that Zero promised you from the “3000% reduction” in my premium, your search is over. It’s in my pocket.
Et Norsk Troll wrote:
who needs to work. everything is paid for. Is that a nickle in your pocket -- give it up.
I have seen this crapoloa coming since early in the clinton term. Back then it drove me crazy and it seemed nobody was paying attention. Thats why I love this blog, I agree with most everything everyone says.
If the commercial realestate balloon bursts, we will really be in a world of hurt. I feel it will take a really bad economy at least 2 years to put most freedom loving Americans in the proper mood to stop all this progressive nonsense. I would feel better if I owned a few military type assault rifles, but luckily in a pinch I have the knowledge base to get one anyway.
I am trying to get my 18 yr old daughter to join the Army. For 2 main reasons. 1) college money. 2) training in how to kill people and survive if the shit actually hits the fan.
We are not there yet, but we are well on our way. If CapN trade passes, things will get very bad very quickly.
It really makes me sick to my stomach. 11 yrs service in the Infantry, permanent spinal cord combat realted disability, 2 yrs with the State of CA EPA, and I have no faith whatsoever in any governments ability to fix any of this. They will only make things worse, and the USA will be history, just as the proggies want. I got shot at by commies during my tours of the Korean DMZ, now those same idiots are ruining and running my country. They are supported by the most corrupt bunch of scum sucking losers imaginable. Boy it REALLY PISSES ME OFF. I can’t wait till most of America is as pissed off as I am. This could get messy.
Trevor
What role does Chris Renton play in the EDL?
Kirly wrote:
and insurance rates wont change until january 2011.
Since the constitution is INTERPRETED by the Justices, it would be poetic justice if a 5 to 4 ruling declared this bill or portions of it unconstitutional. This could all go back to Obama’s pointless goading and ego stroking at the State of the Union. Don’t tell me this stuff does not get personal. If that happens watch the Left explode, twice thwarted by the Supreme Court (Florida) that they constantly try to pack to make end runs around the Constitution. So right now they are preening and gloating about this great win, specifically against the will of the people. This will not turn out like any of them think. It looks very peculiarly like a setup by God to trap the arrogant, by their arrogance.