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Duke University to Free Speech: Flux You

by snork ( 151 Comments › )
Filed under Abortion, Censorship, Political Correctness at March 30th, 2010 - 2:00 pm

FIRE, the organization founded to defend free speech on college campuses, reports: Duke Keeps Pro-Life Group Out of Women’s Center During ‘Week for Life’. It seems that some free speech is freer than other free speech:

Duke University’s Women’s Center has canceled an event about motherhood because the sponsor was engaging in pro-life expression elsewhere on campus. A Women’s Center representative told Duke Students for Life (DSFL) that “we have a problem” and an ideological “conflict” with the event, which was supposedly canceled to protect Duke women from encountering the event during the group’s “traumatizing” pro-life “Week for Life.” The group’s president has turned to the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) for help.

“Duke appears to have an unwritten but officially enforced stance regarding abortion that has resulted in pro-life groups being shut out of the Women’s Center,” said FIRE Vice President Robert Shibley. “This treatment is a deeply hypocritical violation of the Women’s Center’s promise that it ‘welcomes discordant viewpoints from varied experiences.’”

Indeed. The women’s center mission statement says:

The Women’s Center strives to inculcate feminist attributes and goals in every aspect of its programs and administration. To say that our work is “feminist” is to acknowledge that gender is a central lens through which we conduct inquiry and develop practices and policies—critically considering what it means to be sexed, raced, and historically and culturally situated and proposing alternatives to traditionally male models of leadership, thought and practice. We ascribe to a broadly defined, fluctuating and inclusive feminist ideology that welcomes discordant viewpoints from varied experiences.

Fluctuating? Fluctuating??? In other words, it’s one thing one week and another thing next week. Leaving aside the obvious jokes about a woman’s prerogative to change her mind, they’ve officially crossed over into Alice-in-Wonderland territory. “Inclusive” means…well, it fluctuates. And so does “discordant viewpoint”. It means what they say it means today, and it also means what they say it means tomorrow. They’re just not necessarily the same thing.

Flux ‘em.

UPDATE: Duke recinded this decision earlier today:

Victory for Free Speech at Duke: Pro-Life Group’s Rights Restored

DURHAM, N.C., March 30, 2010—Duke University has reversed a decision by its Women’s Center that prohibited the Duke Students for Life (DSFL) student group from holding a discussion on student motherhood at a Women’s Center venue during the group’s “Week for Life” event. The group’s president turned to the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) for help. Only hours after FIRE exposed Duke’s decision to public scrutiny yesterday, Women’s Center Director Ada Gregory wrote to the group to say that “mistakes were certainly made that should not have occurred” and that she had “taken steps to ensure that such an incident will not happen again.”

Bad press spooked them?

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151 Responses to “Duke University to Free Speech: Flux You”
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  1. 1 | March 30, 2010 2:03 pm

    Duke is a perfect example of what’s wrong with higher education; it is reeducation redefined, with the express purpose of creating the “new man”.


  2. mtc
    2 | March 30, 2010 2:06 pm

    Abortion is evil. Duke ruined the lives of 4 students because of a false rape charge levied against them. No one should pay any attention to Duke.


  3. 3 | March 30, 2010 2:06 pm

    “We ascribe to a broadly defined, fluctuating and inclusive feminist ideology that welcomes discordant viewpoints from varied experiences.”

    Translattion: we have no moral or ethical center, let the fre-for-all begin!


  4. NoThreat2U
    4 | March 30, 2010 2:11 pm

    By discordant viewpoints they probably mean which abortion method being used. Pigs. And I don’t claim them as “sisters”.


  5. Nevergiveup
    5 | March 30, 2010 2:15 pm

    Typical liberal mind think. I guess i will not be rooting for Duke in the final 4


  6. snork
    6 | March 30, 2010 2:23 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Typical liberal mind think.

    Helen Smith has an interesting piece on that. She (a PhD psychologist) thinks that they have a cognitive deficit. There’s something missing that makes them unable to not be pricks.


  7. 7 | March 30, 2010 2:30 pm

    I need Duke University’s Woman’s Center like a fish needs a bicycle.


  8. vagabond trader
    8 | March 30, 2010 2:35 pm

    We welcome diverse opinions so long as they all agree with ours.


  9. vagabond trader
    9 | March 30, 2010 2:37 pm

    OT: Connecticut is experiencing our worst flooding since the 1950s.


  10. wolfie
    10 | March 30, 2010 2:48 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    We welcome diverse opinions so long as they all agree with ours.

    Yep! That’s what “diversity” means!
    And war is peace and slavery is freedom.


  11. Nevergiveup
    11 | March 30, 2010 2:50 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    OT: Connecticut is experiencing our worst flooding since the 1950s.

    It’s a tad wet down here in NJ also


  12. vagabond trader
    12 | March 30, 2010 2:53 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Groton and Mystic are getting hammered,friends down there had to evacuate. We’re on high ground but man, never saw the yard this swamped. Hopefully it’ll stay out of the basement.


  13. snork
    13 | March 30, 2010 2:55 pm

    @ vagabond trader:
    It’s global weirding.


  14. wolfie
    14 | March 30, 2010 2:58 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    I guess i will not be rooting for Duke in the final 4

    I will, but I don’t confuse the academic side of the institution with the athletic one. In any case, my observation is that academics usually dislike the athletic department, and the more leftwing the academic is, the more they hate it. They especially detest football or any big-time, successful program.

    You can bet that the same feminazis responsible for un-diversity at the Women’s Center wouldn’t be caught dead cheering at a men’s basketball game.


  15. Nevergiveup
    15 | March 30, 2010 2:58 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Groton and Mystic are getting hammered,friends down there had to evacuate. We’re on high ground but man, never saw the yard this swamped. Hopefully it’ll stay out of the basement.

    Well, it’s only a hunch, but I think the subs float?


  16. vagabond trader
    16 | March 30, 2010 2:59 pm

    @ snork:

    Hope his estate on Long Island is weirded too then.


  17. Nevergiveup
    17 | March 30, 2010 2:59 pm

    wolfie wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    I guess i will not be rooting for Duke in the final 4

    I will, but I don’t confuse the academic side of the institution with the athletic one. In any case, my observation is that academics usually dislike the athletic department, and the more leftwing the academic is, the more they hate it. They especially detest football or any big-time, successful program.

    You can bet that the same feminazis responsible for un-diversity at the Women’s Center wouldn’t be caught dead cheering at a men’s basketball game.

    OK, good point. I’m back to rooting for Duke.


  18. snork
    18 | March 30, 2010 3:02 pm

    See update.


  19. Guggi
    19 | March 30, 2010 3:03 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ snork:
    Hope his estate on Long Island is weirded too then.

    Has anyone the carbon footprint of his estate ?


  20. NoThreat2U
    20 | March 30, 2010 3:03 pm

    @ wolfie:
    can bet that the same feminazis responsible for un-diversity at the Women’s Center wouldn’t be caught dead cheering at a men’s basketball game.

    Those are the ugly chicks with mustaches. Some people call them dykes. lol


  21. snork
    21 | March 30, 2010 3:04 pm

    wolfie wrote:

    In any case, my observation is that academics usually dislike the athletic department, and the more leftwing the academic is, the more they hate it.

    I’m sure that played into the decision to cancel the Lacrosse season when those guys were falsely accused by that nut case. They were just looking for an excuse.


  22. Nevergiveup
    22 | March 30, 2010 3:04 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    Those are the ugly chicks with mustaches. Some people call them dykes. lol

    In many Arab countries, they call them wives?


  23. vagabond trader
    23 | March 30, 2010 3:05 pm

    Forget the boring intellectual drivel, this is the great equalizer:

    http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/feel-good-story-more-women-buying-firearms


  24. 24 | March 30, 2010 3:06 pm

    @ snork:

    Good. I just wish the Same thing happened at the University of Ottawa before Ann Coulters talk was cancelled.

    /the left up here in our institutes of higher learning is beyond entrenched…


  25. vagabond trader
    25 | March 30, 2010 3:07 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Probably a bigger number than our budget deficit. :-)


  26. snork
    26 | March 30, 2010 3:08 pm

    @ PaladinPhil:
    If I had to speculate, I’d say that some large donors weren’t pleased at the news. As a private institution, they don’t have to grant free speech to anyone. But they do have to beg for money.


  27. RIX
    27 | March 30, 2010 3:10 pm

    If you read Tom Wolfes ” I am Chslotte Simmons” Duke was his template & it was not flattering.
    But I do like C oach K


  28. lobo91
    28 | March 30, 2010 3:10 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Well, it’s only a hunch, but I think the subs float?

    It’s sort of optional for them.


  29. vagabond trader
    29 | March 30, 2010 3:10 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    In many Arab countries, they call them wives?

    You mean these?

    http://69.5.3.73/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/3-camels.jpg


  30. Nevergiveup
    30 | March 30, 2010 3:11 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Well, it’s only a hunch, but I think the subs float?

    It’s sort of optional for them.

    Not below a certain depth it isn’t


  31. lobo91
    31 | March 30, 2010 3:12 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    I sure saw plenty of women at the gun show this weekend.


  32. Nevergiveup
    32 | March 30, 2010 3:12 pm

    RIX wrote:

    If you read Tom Wolfes ” I am Chslotte Simmons” Duke was his template & it was not flattering.
    But I do like C oach K

    Yeah but he was kinda quite through that whole lacrosse thing. That bothered me alittle


  33. vagabond trader
    33 | March 30, 2010 3:13 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Gee,cannot imagine why. :mrgreen:


  34. lobo91
    34 | March 30, 2010 3:13 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    If it rains that much in CT, they have bigger things to worry about.


  35. Nevergiveup
    35 | March 30, 2010 3:13 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    In many Arab countries, they call them wives?

    You mean these?

    http://69.5.3.73/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/3-camels.jpg

    No those are considered property. Oh wait this is a Muslim country ha- so are wives. Never mind


  36. wolfie
    36 | March 30, 2010 3:14 pm

    snork wrote:

    I’m sure that played into the decision to cancel the Lacrosse season when those guys were falsely accused by that nut case.

    I’ll bet they got multiple tingles up their hairy legs. The sheer thrill of shutting an athletic program down!


  37. RIX
    37 | March 30, 2010 3:14 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    I got dibs on the cute one!


  38. Nevergiveup
    38 | March 30, 2010 3:14 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ vagabond trader:

    I sure saw plenty of women at the gun show this weekend.

    But those were American Women. Pistol Packing Mammas


  39. lobo91
    39 | March 30, 2010 3:15 pm

    I remember reading the most idiotic study a few years ago done by some professor at Duke about violence against women in the military.

    The conclusion was that the best way to protect women in the military from violence was to fully integrate them into combat units.

    Think about that for awhile…


  40. vagabond trader
    40 | March 30, 2010 3:17 pm

    @ RIX:

    RIX, they are all cute and finalists at the Saud “Beautiful Camel Contest” held annually.


  41. snork
    41 | March 30, 2010 3:17 pm

    Women need guns to cook the bacon.


  42. wolfie
    42 | March 30, 2010 3:17 pm

    snork wrote:

    See update.

    FIRE wins again! God bless them.


  43. 43 | March 30, 2010 3:18 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Muslims, where camels are worth more then the women.


  44. Nevergiveup
    44 | March 30, 2010 3:18 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    If it rains that much in CT, they have bigger things to worry about.

    Yeah like Dental Readiness?


  45. vagabond trader
    45 | March 30, 2010 3:18 pm

    @ snork:

    LOL! It’ll do in a pinch.


  46. RIX
    46 | March 30, 2010 3:20 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Yeah but he was kinda quite through that whole lacrosse thing. That bothered me alittle

    I recall that & I didn’t like it either.
    I remember how quickly the LaCrosse players were condmned by the media & their own faculty. There was a lot of bias against them because they come from “priveleged ” backgrouds & the accuser was a poor black girl.
    It was reverse discrimination & I doubted that they were guilty from the jump. The facts didn’t add up.


  47. 47 | March 30, 2010 3:20 pm

    OT- Just picked up this book.

    Europe’s Ghost: Tolerance, Jihadism, and the Crisis in the West (Hardcover)

    The Author is Michael Radu and there’s a forward by Robert Spencer.


  48. 48 | March 30, 2010 3:21 pm

    @ lobo91:
    *blink* *blink*

    /*POP*


  49. wolfie
    49 | March 30, 2010 3:21 pm

    @ snork:

    :lol:
    Ooooooh! Crispy!


  50. RIX
    50 | March 30, 2010 3:22 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ RIX:
    RIX, they are all cute and finalists at the Saud “Beautiful Camel Contest” held annually.

    Oh, don’t get me wrong. I’d date any of the three , but that one!
    Yeah Baby!


  51. lobo91
    51 | March 30, 2010 3:23 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Yeah like Dental Readiness?

    You could have spent the day with me, at a train-the-trainer course for using a HMMWV rollover simulator.

    Trust me…running it’s more fun than being inside.

    I’m going to feel it tomorrow…


  52. RIX
    52 | March 30, 2010 3:24 pm

    @ Rodan:
    My wife just got back from Rome where she was visting our daughter, last night.
    She said that Rome is really a city of cotrasts & fascinating.
    She did tell me that they just Loooooove Barack Obama over there.


  53. lobo91
    53 | March 30, 2010 3:26 pm

    @ RIX:

    Did she offer to send him to them?


  54. Guggi
    54 | March 30, 2010 3:26 pm

    Alleged CIA victim sentenced over mayor attack

    A German man whose claims he was kidnapped and tortured by CIA agents reached top political levels was sentenced to two years in prison on Tuesday for attacking the mayor of his home town.

    A state court in the Bavarian city of Memmingen convicted Khaled el-Masri, 46, of bodily harm for the attack last September on Neu-Ulm Mayor Gerold Noerenberg, who suffered a broken finger and an eye injury.

    Snip


  55. RIX
    55 | March 30, 2010 3:26 pm

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Muslims, where camels are worth more then the women.

    The Ummah, where men are men, women are trash & goats are nervous.


  56. Nevergiveup
    56 | March 30, 2010 3:26 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Yeah like Dental Readiness?

    You could have spent the day with me, at a train-the-trainer course for using a HMMWV rollover simulator.

    Trust me…running it’s more fun than being inside.

    I’m going to feel it tomorrow…

    I just wrote my orders to go down to Parris Island this summer. looking forward to being with my Marine cousins. While i was looking for the Dental Clinic I found this:


    As mentioned above, recruits receive a dental exam and, when needed, some dental treatment during recruit training. In some cases that dental treatment includes having wisdom teeth pulled. Upon hearing this, one recruit mom was shocked and expressed her feeling that this practice is barbaric. See the response “from under the campaign cover” below:

    If your son is lucky, they’ll pull his wisdom teeth. Every recruit is evaluated on a case by case basis. Pulling them after they hit the operating forces is too late; he should be learning how to kill the enemy and not taking rest days for dental surgery. Recruits get plenty of medication and time off after getting their wisdom teeth pulled. Their “agony” is kept to a minimum in recruit training, since learning to deal with hardship, pain, and loss is something they’ll never experience in combat. Don’t worry though… if he doesn’t get his wisdom teeth pulled I’ll make sure the Drill Instructors give him extra attention when other recruits do.

    My point is this: Relax. Your son’s wisdom teeth (you know, the teeth that humans developed as an answer to our ancestor’s early diet of coarse, rough food, but no longer have an evolutionary need for) are in the capable hands of U.S. Navy medicine. The most barbaric thing the Navy practices is a 12 cup coffee maker in a 15 man shop.

    He’ll be fine. It’s time to take off the training wheels.

    -United States Marine and Series Gunnery Sergeant, 2009


  57. 57 | March 30, 2010 3:27 pm

    @ RIX:

    Tranzis love fellow tranzis. They know their own.


  58. RIX
    58 | March 30, 2010 3:29 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Did she offer to send him to them?

    Actually she did. Apparently he is all over the local media, print & TV. They apparently like that he is taking us down a peg.
    In other words , he is destroying this country & they approve.


  59. 59 | March 30, 2010 3:30 pm

    @ RIX:

    But a beautiful camel is prized over any harem…


  60. Nevergiveup
    60 | March 30, 2010 3:30 pm

    I hope you all saw this???

    ARTICLECOMMENTS (116)Updated March 30, 2010
    Marine’s Father Will Not Pay Court-Ordered Funeral Protesters’ Fees
    FOXNews.com
    The father of a Marine killed in Iraq whose funeral was picketed by anti-gay protesters told Fox News he will defy a court order and not pay the protesters’ appeal costs.

    PRINTEMAILSHARE RECOMMEND (0)
    The father of a Marine killed in Iraq whose funeral was picketed by anti-gay protesters told Fox News he will defy a court order and not pay the protesters’ appeal costs.

    Albert Snyder, of York, Pa., told Fox News he does not intend to pay $16,510 to Fred Phelps, the leader of Kansas’ Westboro Baptist Church, which held protests at Marine Lance Cpl. Matthew Snyder’s funeral in 2006.

    “I don’t think I’m going to be writing a check until I hear from the Supreme Court,” Snyder told Fox News on Tuesday. “I’m not about to pay them anything.”

    The Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit ordered Snyder on Friday to pay Phelps. A two-page decision supplied by his attorneys offered no details on how the court came to its decision.

    The decision adds “insult to injury,” said Sean Summers, one of Snyder’s attorneys.

    The Judge should be hung by his balls


  61. RIX
    61 | March 30, 2010 3:31 pm

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Tranzis love fellow tranzis. They know their own.

    That’s apparenntly the gist, “Why can’t you just be like us?”


  62. 62 | March 30, 2010 3:32 pm

    @ Guggi:

    The should turn him over to my tender mercies for a few days. When I’m done, he’ll kiss the hand of the CIA interrogator who “tortured” him.


  63. Nevergiveup
    63 | March 30, 2010 3:32 pm

    Breaking News ON DRUDGE

    EXCLUSIVE: Iran Nuclear Scientist Defects to U.S. In CIA ‘Intelligence Coup’
    Shahram Amiri Disappeared Last June in Saudi Arabia, Reportedly Now Resettled in the United States

    Post a Comment By MATTHEW COLE
    March 30, 2010
    PrintRSSFONT SIZE:SHARE:EmailTwitterFacebookMore
    An award-winning Iranian nuclear scientist, who disappeared last year under mysterious circumstances, has defected to the CIA and been resettled in the United States, according to people briefed on the operation by intelligence officials.

    Too bad we will not do anything with the intel but bitch and moan


  64. spidly
    64 | March 30, 2010 3:33 pm

    Seen that the Big CJ spotted a neo-nazi flag at tea party


  65. snork
    65 | March 30, 2010 3:33 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ RIX:
    But a beautiful camel is prized over any harem…

    Yeah. Try drinking the harem’s piss mixed with their milk.


  66. 66 | March 30, 2010 3:33 pm

    @ PaladinPhil:

    Yup the American New left, The 3rd World Liberation Movements, The Euro-Socialists and the ChiComs are all Progressive based movements. They all have the same goals.


  67. lobo91
    67 | March 30, 2010 3:34 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    LOL

    Still not as much fun as the Humvee on a Spit, though.


  68. 68 | March 30, 2010 3:35 pm

    @ snork:

    I ain’t that kinky, but I would try the better ones out two or three at a time…

    :evil: :twisted: :evil:


  69. RIX
    69 | March 30, 2010 3:35 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    The Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit ordered Snyder on Friday to pay Phelps. A two-page decision supplied by his attorneys offered no details on how the court came to its decision

    .

    I hope that this father is not held in contempt.

    Why didn’t the judge just order the guy to pay war reparations to the savages who killed his son?


  70. 70 | March 30, 2010 3:36 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    The Iron Fist rendition. They give them over to you for a few days. I think that’s a fair payback for the evil these Imperialists have done.


  71. 71 | March 30, 2010 3:36 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Mohammedans have four wives and don’t know what to do with one of them…


  72. Nevergiveup
    72 | March 30, 2010 3:37 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    The Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit ordered Snyder on Friday to pay Phelps. A two-page decision supplied by his attorneys offered no details on how the court came to its decision

    .

    I hope that this father is not held in contempt.

    Why didn’t the judge just order the guy to pay war reparations to the savages who killed his son?

    The cock sucker of a Judge can rule against the Dad if he wants, that is his perogative, but to charge him court costs was way outa line. What a bastard.


  73. 73 | March 30, 2010 3:37 pm

    @ RIX:

    Dane geld. Once you’ve given the geld, you never get rid of the Dane. That doesn’t work in translation though. Dane -- geld! will take care of the Dane quite nicely…


  74. lobo91
    74 | March 30, 2010 3:38 pm

    @ RIX:

    I was stationed in Italy for 15 months.

    Trust me…we don’t want to be on their level.

    We couldn’t even drink the water in our building, because of the E. Coli contamination.


  75. RIX
    75 | March 30, 2010 3:38 pm

    snork wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:
    @ RIX:
    But a beautiful camel is prized over any harem…
    Yeah. Try drinking

    the harem’s piss mixed with their milk.

    Isn’t one of the Haddiths that you can have sex with a she Camel, but you may not drink the milk?
    Keep saying, “it is just another culture.”


  76. 76 | March 30, 2010 3:38 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    but to charge him court costs was way outa line.

    It’s injury to insult.


  77. snork
    77 | March 30, 2010 3:38 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    I think it was a panel of judges. And probably not all of them have balls.


  78. 78 | March 30, 2010 3:39 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    I wonder if some money went to the Judge or if he just hates the military? I’m betting on the latter, because you couldn’t buy his behavior with anything the Phelps Phreaks can afford.


  79. RIX
    80 | March 30, 2010 3:43 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ RIX:
    I was stationed in Italy for 15 months.
    Trust me…we don’t want to be on their level.
    We couldn’t even drink the water in our building, because of the E. Coli contamination.

    My daughter & her roommates got complaints that they shower too much.
    Italians like lots of Euros apparently aren’t fanatics about personal hygene.
    I geuss they smoke everywhere & dogs are not neutered, so thy just boink all of the time.
    On the other hand Palm Sunday Mass at the Vatican was apparently other worldly.


  80. 81 | March 30, 2010 3:44 pm

    Damn, this is good news:

    EXCLUSIVE: Iran Nuclear Scientist Defects to U.S. In CIA ‘Intelligence Coup’

    Shahram Amiri Disappeared Last June in Saudi Arabia, Reportedly Now Resettled in the United States

    Post a Comment By MATTHEW COLE
    March 30, 2010

    An award-winning Iranian nuclear scientist, who disappeared last year under mysterious circumstances, has defected to the CIA and been resettled in the United States, according to people briefed on the operation by intelligence officials.

    I hope Obama doesn’t send him back as a “goodwill” gesture…


  81. Guggi
    82 | March 30, 2010 3:45 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    The should turn him over to my tender mercies for a few days. When I’m done, he’ll kiss the hand of the CIA interrogator who “tortured” him.

    More about El-Masri

    Interesting that to be a terrorist fits the status for “refugee”

    A report on March 2, 2006, suggested that El-Masri may have been a leader of a radical, Lebanese group ideologically affiliated with the Muslim brotherhood called “el-Tawhid” in the early 1980s, which fought Alawites in Tripoli during the Lebanese Civil War.[5] The description of the group fits the Islamic Unification Movement, also known simply as “Tawhid”.[17][18][19] German reports assert that El-Masri himself reported his being a member of “El-Tawhid” or “Al-Tawhid” when he applied to Germany for refugee status, in 1985.

    Snip

    Arson incident and other legal troubles

    Snip


  82. RIX
    83 | March 30, 2010 3:45 pm

    @ shadowman:
    Once again , Johnson has made an ass out of himself.


  83. snork
    84 | March 30, 2010 3:45 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Phelps is a lawyer. If he could convince a moonbat judge that this is a way to spank a patriot, I can see how that could happen. But his lawyer was remiss in not playing the same game and mentioning the homophobia angle.

    Way too little information. We’ll know more as the facts actually come out.


  84. spidly
    85 | March 30, 2010 3:45 pm

    @ shadowman:

    if you squint it really looks like odin’s cross


  85. snork
    86 | March 30, 2010 3:46 pm

    @ shadowman:
    Someone here (Bunk?) debunked that in real time. That’s old news @ the Blogmocracy.


  86. Nevergiveup
    87 | March 30, 2010 3:46 pm

    Gee Juan Williams is a jerk


  87. lobo91
    88 | March 30, 2010 3:46 pm

    @ RIX:

    All true.

    And they’re bad drivers.

    Really bad.

    As in, the only worse ones I’ve seen were in the Middle East.


  88. vagabond trader
    89 | March 30, 2010 3:47 pm

    During the holiest week in Christianity the Obamas have decided they will not be joining a new church due to security concerns.WTF?


  89. goddessoftheclassroom
    90 | March 30, 2010 3:47 pm

    Quick OT, but I know of you have followed my personal soap opera…

    My divorce is final, and all is very well. Thank you all for your prayers and encouragement.

    Got to run--take care.


  90. Nevergiveup
    91 | March 30, 2010 3:47 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    During the holiest week in Christianity the Obamas have decided they will not be joining a new church due to security concerns.WTF?

    Ha?


  91. lobo91
    92 | March 30, 2010 3:48 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Gee Juan Williams is a jerk

    You just noticed?


  92. RIX
    93 | March 30, 2010 3:49 pm

    spidly wrote:

    @ shadowman:
    if you squint it really looks like odin’s cross

    I can see Glenn Becks face , if I view it sideways.


  93. lobo91
    94 | March 30, 2010 3:49 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    His own, or the church’s?


  94. vagabond trader
    95 | March 30, 2010 3:49 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    FOX reported it a little while ago. They are not going to join a new church because of security issues. Date nights on the town are still planned.OK. I made up the last bit.


  95. 96 | March 30, 2010 3:50 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    I hope Obama doesn’t send him back as a “goodwill” gesture…

    *shudder* Probably is thinking about it as an overture.


  96. RIX
    97 | March 30, 2010 3:50 pm

    @ goddessoftheclassroom:
    Congratulations!


  97. 98 | March 30, 2010 3:51 pm


  98. vagabond trader
    99 | March 30, 2010 3:51 pm

    @ goddessoftheclassroom:

    Now you are free to get on with your own life. :D


  99. Nevergiveup
    100 | March 30, 2010 3:51 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Gee Juan Williams is a jerk

    You just noticed?

    I’m just continually amazed just how stupid


  100. lobo91
    101 | March 30, 2010 3:52 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    I suppose the potential for lightning strikes could be considered a “security concern.”


  101. RIX
    102 | March 30, 2010 3:52 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ RIX:
    All true.
    And they’re bad drivers.
    Really bad.
    As in, the only worse ones I’ve seen were in the Middle East.

    And yet they look down on us.


  102. shadowman
    103 | March 30, 2010 3:52 pm

    @ snork:

    Missed it first time round,see that the comment is a couple of days old.

    Didn’t mean to rub salt into old wounds. :-)


  103. lobo91
    104 | March 30, 2010 3:53 pm

    @ RIX:

    And yet they look down on us.

    They’re a lot like Muslims in that regard.

    “Look at all the great things we gave to the world.”

    Okay…name some from the past 500 years or so…


  104. RIX
    105 | March 30, 2010 3:54 pm

    Everybody have a good evening


  105. lobo91
    106 | March 30, 2010 3:54 pm

    @ RIX:

    You too.


  106. snork
    107 | March 30, 2010 3:55 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    During the holiest week in Christianity the Obamas have decided they will not be joining a new church due to security concerns.WTF?

    He just had his Seder. What’s he need a church for?


  107. Nevergiveup
    108 | March 30, 2010 3:55 pm

    DURHAM, N.C. — A federal judge is dismissing a lawsuit filed after the son of former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani was dismissed from the Duke University golf team.
    U.S. District Judge William Osteen Jr. said in an order Tuesday that the offers used to lure Andrew Giuliani to the school did not constitute an enforceable contract. A magistrate judge had also recommended dismissal of the case last year.
    Giuliani had argued that a former golf coach had promised him an opportunity to compete and a right to access Duke’s athletic facilities. He alleged that Duke’s golf coach manufactured accusations against him to justify kicking him off the team in 2008, when he was a junior.
    An attorney for Giuliani didn’t immediately return a call seeking comment

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/judge_rejects_golf_lawsuit_filed_oT5OyQQlx0YshHk5Hq40jM#ixzz0jhfeFPZp

    Good the kid is a punk


  108. vagabond trader
    109 | March 30, 2010 3:56 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Apparently they attend services at Camp David because they don’t want to disrupt a public church. Because they are so considerate.


  109. snork
    110 | March 30, 2010 3:57 pm

    @ Kirly:
    Brainboy?


  110. vagabond trader
    111 | March 30, 2010 3:57 pm

    @ snork:

    It was a halal of a good time I hear.


  111. snork
    112 | March 30, 2010 3:59 pm

    @ shadowman:
    There’s no good way to search this blog, unfortunately. That’s something that could use improvement. If something just popped up in the threads like that, there’s no way to find it short of going through the threads one-by-one.


  112. snork
    113 | March 30, 2010 3:59 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    It was a halal of a good time I hear.

    Oy. Buzzsaw rubbing off on you?


  113. 114 | March 30, 2010 4:01 pm

    snork wrote:

    @ Kirly:
    Brainboy?

    heh. might as well be. grrrrrrr!


  114. snork
    115 | March 30, 2010 4:01 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Dad’s a lawyer, and he didn’t get it in writing? Ummm…


  115. vagabond trader
    116 | March 30, 2010 4:01 pm

    @ snork:

    Hes on Pesach break,someone has to pick up a little slack. :-)


  116. 117 | March 30, 2010 4:01 pm

    @ snork:

    He inspires us all with his razor wit.


  117. 118 | March 30, 2010 4:02 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Apparently they attend services at Camp David because they don’t want to disrupt a public church. Because they are so considerate.

    Back door Imam? :)


  118. 119 | March 30, 2010 4:03 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Naw, Juan is a dick. True jerks might take offense…


  119. snowcrash
    120 | March 30, 2010 4:03 pm

    @ shadowman:
    Dude, our vagabond trader got the hattip! Way to go vagabond!


  120. 121 | March 30, 2010 4:03 pm

    Dan Quayles son, Ben, is running for Congress in the district I live in. Congressman John Shadegg is retiring. wow.

    and i’m still about to kick somebody’s ass too.


  121. 122 | March 30, 2010 4:04 pm

    @ shadowman:

    He needs to stick to programming and Jazz Music. Flag viewing is not his strength.


  122. Mike C.
    123 | March 30, 2010 4:04 pm

    Pardon me for intruding, and I apologize if somebody else has already caught this, but I thought folk here might be interested. Seems our good buddy Chaz has been caught jumping up and down on his own crank in golf spikes again…

    http://www.grouchyconservativepundits.com/index.php?topic=13235.0;topicseen

    Heh.


  123. 124 | March 30, 2010 4:06 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    The Guilianis are Yankee Rednecks. What do you expect?


  124. Mike C.
    125 | March 30, 2010 4:06 pm

    Ah -- too late, I see.

    Oh well -- nothing ventured, nothin gained…


  125. snork
    126 | March 30, 2010 4:07 pm

    @ Mike C.:
    Login required?


  126. 127 | March 30, 2010 4:07 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    I wouldn’t go that far. I think that he’s not a religous man at all. He only went to Wrights church for networking purposes only. After all, most people there fit his ideology.


  127. snork
    128 | March 30, 2010 4:08 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    He needs to stick to programming and Jazz Music. Flag viewing is not his strength.

    But a photographic genius needs to have an eye for detail…


  128. wolfie
    129 | March 30, 2010 4:09 pm

    @ shadowman:

    It was worth a repost for those of us who missed it earlier….like me! :lol:


  129. 130 | March 30, 2010 4:10 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    It would inconvienience the worshippers to have to bang their head on the floor Mohammedan-style. Bet he and Sasquatch break out the headscarves for the girls if he is re-elected.


  130. Nevergiveup
    131 | March 30, 2010 4:10 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    The Guilianis are Yankee Rednecks. What do you expect?

    Is “Yankee Redneck” an insult?


  131. shadowman
    132 | March 30, 2010 4:10 pm

    @ snowcrash:

    http://minx.cc/?post=300047 ;-)


  132. 133 | March 30, 2010 4:10 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    Dan Quayles son, Ben, is running for Congress in the district I live in. Congressman John Shadegg is retiring. wow.

    and i’m still about to kick somebody’s ass too.

    Dan Quayle was an unneccecarily maligned figure, and I’ve always seen him as a causualty of the Left’s viciousness.

    I ask you; who is/was a better VP, Quayle or Biden?


  133. vagabond trader
    134 | March 30, 2010 4:10 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    :lol: Wasn’t that an old Doors tune?


  134. snork
    135 | March 30, 2010 4:10 pm

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    I wouldn’t go that far. I think that he’s not a religous man at all. He only went to Wrights church for networking purposes only. After all, most people there fit his ideology.

    Arguably, there was no religion there. But it makes a great cover.


  135. 136 | March 30, 2010 4:12 pm

    snork wrote:

    But a photographic genius needs to have an eye for detail…

    We are talking about the same guy right? :lol:


  136. vagabond trader
    137 | March 30, 2010 4:13 pm

    @ snowcrash:

    Can’t figure out why Zip gave me the tip. Someone else went swamp diving and found it the other day. We were just laughing about it here. :-)

    Weasel Zippers is a great breaking story blog btw!


  137. 138 | March 30, 2010 4:13 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    Wasn’t that an old Doors tune?

    Only if you equate “man’ and “Imam”. :)


  138. vagabond trader
    139 | March 30, 2010 4:14 pm

    @ snork:

    Arguably, there was no religion there. But it makes a great cover.

    Hussein is a militant atheist. I’d bet the farm on it.


  139. 140 | March 30, 2010 4:15 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    More of a description, although I guarantee you no one from the South with a Redneck label would be considered for the Presidency. I didn’t call them White Trash, but I did say “Yankee” which means about the same thing…


  140. Mike C.
    141 | March 30, 2010 4:16 pm

    snork wrote:

    @ Mike C.:
    Login required?

    Oops -- forgot about that. Here’s the original…

    http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2010/03/charles-johnson-fairly-sure-the-tennesee-state-flag-is-neonazi-logo.html


  141. 142 | March 30, 2010 4:17 pm

    @ snork:
    No, there’s a religion there, it just has nothing whatsoever to do with God.


  142. 143 | March 30, 2010 4:17 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Kirly wrote:

    Dan Quayles son, Ben, is running for Congress in the district I live in. Congressman John Shadegg is retiring. wow.
    and i’m still about to kick somebody’s ass too.

    Dan Quayle was an unneccecarily maligned figure, and I’ve always seen him as a causualty of the Left’s viciousness.
    I ask you; who is/was a better VP, Quayle or Biden?

    i agree with you that Dan Quayle was viciously attacked and maligned. the media never bothered to report that he was reading the school que cards and didn’t want to make a scene so he just read it as is.
    biden is a dumbass and should have his ass whooped.


  143. snork
    144 | March 30, 2010 4:20 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Hussein is a militant atheist. I’d bet the farm on it.

    Bingo. He may have sympathies for muslims as a group, and fond recollections of his childhood in the madrassa, but I don’t think he believes anything but Marxism.


  144. 145 | March 30, 2010 4:21 pm

    @ Kirly:

    Biden is one heartbeat away from the Presidency. Remember that the next time you hear a Leftist dis Sarah Palin.


  145. snork
    146 | March 30, 2010 4:25 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Look at the positive side. He can’t sign anything with his finger up his nose.


  146. lobo91
    147 | March 30, 2010 4:27 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Dan Quayle was an unneccecarily maligned figure, and I’ve always seen him as a causualty of the Left’s viciousness.

    I got to meet Dan and Marilyn Quayle at a fundraiser a few years ago.

    They’re both very nice, and he is certainly not the idiot he was made out to be by the MSM.


  147. 148 | March 30, 2010 4:33 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Kirly:
    Biden is one heartbeat away from the Presidency. Remember that the next time you hear a Leftist dis Sarah Palin.

    i never forget it. nightmares every damn night. but, at least he’s so stupid he’d do less harm the the won.
    there are just so many asses out there that need to be whooped right now.


  148. snork
    149 | March 30, 2010 4:34 pm

    @ lobo91:
    I think that may have been a turning point that a lot of us missed. It was shortly after the successful painting of Quayle as a stooge that they went after Bork with an ice pick, followed by what they did to Thomas. And then in 2000, Bush was both an idiot and an evil genius. Quayle was the beta-test. Seemed to work. That’s why they jumped on Palin within literally minutes of her announcement. The machinery was up to speed and ready to engage.


  149. lobo91
    150 | March 30, 2010 4:37 pm

    I’m nominating my Sheltie for VP.

    She’s smarter than Biden, and, unlike him, house broken.

    She’s old enough, if you count in dog years, and I have papers proving she was born in the US.


  150. lobo91
    151 | March 30, 2010 4:38 pm

    @ snork:

    I would go back earlier than that, to Ford.


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