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The Ed Sullivan Show – Rock Stars

by Speranza ( 168 Comments › )
Filed under Golden Age of Television, Open thread at April 10th, 2010 - 9:00 pm

The Mamas and the Papas “Monday, Monday” -- April 9, 1966

Manfred Mann  “Do Wah Diddy” -- 1964

Steppenwolf  “Born to be Wild

Roy Orbison “Oh Pretty Woman” -- July 4, 1965

Petula Clark “Downtown” -  March 14, 1965

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  1. 1 | April 10, 2010 9:03 pm

    hi kids


  2. snork
    2 | April 10, 2010 9:04 pm

    Hippies. Hippies everywhere…


  3. 3 | April 10, 2010 9:07 pm

    Obama bumper stickers everywhere I look here in Seattle.


  4. Calo
    4 | April 10, 2010 9:14 pm

    @ savage:

    Savage, in response to you yesterday. Are the docks really “that empty” in the Port of LA? As a gift shop owner, I seriously question the numbers that retail sales are up as the MSM reported yesterday. I know I am curbing buying new inventory. I see customer count and average transaction $’s down. People are going “minimal” now.


  5. snork
    5 | April 10, 2010 9:16 pm

    savage wrote:

    Obama bumper stickers everywhere I look here in Seattle.

    That’s different from LA?


  6. Calo
    6 | April 10, 2010 9:16 pm

    oops – transaction


  7. 7 | April 10, 2010 9:16 pm

    @ Calo:

    Not sure about the ports, but I can tell you for a fact that the volume of rail freight is off by 45 to 60 percent from this time last year.


  8. 8 | April 10, 2010 9:17 pm

    @ snork:

    Most of the ‘O’ stickers down in LA got peeled off a while ago.


  9. snork
    9 | April 10, 2010 9:19 pm

    BTW, Savage. If it gets to you too much, tune in AM 770 or 570. 770 is the bigger one with Rush and Savage so on, but 570 has some pretty good local talent.


  10. lobo91
    10 | April 10, 2010 9:20 pm

    @ savage:

    Obama bumper stickers everywhere I look here in Seattle.

    Sounds like a good reason not to live there.


  11. 11 | April 10, 2010 9:21 pm

    @ snork:

    Well, I’ll be leaving Monday afternoon but I will check out those stations.


  12. 12 | April 10, 2010 9:22 pm

    @ Calo:

    I just fixed that for you


  13. snork
    13 | April 10, 2010 9:23 pm

    @ Calo:
    Something else I’ve noticed. I can watch the ships coming and going to and from the Port of Tacoma, and the container shipping from Asia is way down. Oddly, the car ships are not down by as much, but I know KIA’s packing new cars into leased parking space all over the port. That can’t go on forever.

    And several ships are at anchor long term.


  14. Calo
    14 | April 10, 2010 9:23 pm

    @ savage:
    Thanks


  15. Buckeye Abroad
    15 | April 10, 2010 9:26 pm

    @Speranza

    The Mamas and the Papas “Monday, Monday” — April 9, 1966

    “Monday, Monday… can’t get f*cked that day.”

    I used to like them until I heard the rest.


  16. 16 | April 10, 2010 9:35 pm

    Something a little different from a better time


  17. 17 | April 10, 2010 9:38 pm

    @ PaladinPhil:

    Now that is very nice!


  18. Buckeye Abroad
    18 | April 10, 2010 9:39 pm

    #16 PaladinPhil

    Thank you! I haven’t heard so much brass falling on my ears since Desert Storm. Nice link.


  19. 19 | April 10, 2010 9:40 pm

    Swing is the thing. Nothing like going to a swing dance and watching the people tear up the dance floor. Tried it a few times, it’s fun.


  20. huckfunn
    20 | April 10, 2010 9:42 pm

    Byrds Mr. Tam

    The Byrds Hey Mr. Tamburine Man


  21. 21 | April 10, 2010 9:42 pm

    Something for you, Phil


  22. 22 | April 10, 2010 9:44 pm


  23. 23 | April 10, 2010 9:46 pm

    @ savage:

    Thanks, it’s good to revisit classics.


  24. 24 | April 10, 2010 9:50 pm

    @ PaladinPhil:

    I’ve always liked stuff like this also, even me being a metalhead, go figger…


  25. 25 | April 10, 2010 9:51 pm

    Didn’t Ed Sullivan introduce America to the Beatles?


  26. 26 | April 10, 2010 9:53 pm

    @ Rodan:

    He did so, February of 1964


  27. 27 | April 10, 2010 9:58 pm

    @ Rodan:
    In 1964 my older brother brought home the albums “Meet the Beatles” and “Introducing the Beatles”. So for me it wasn’t Ed………..


  28. NoThreat2U
    28 | April 10, 2010 9:59 pm

    @ savage:
    Loved the Gerst Haus (sp?) The food was awesome! Thanks for the suggestion ;)


  29. Speranza
    29 | April 10, 2010 10:01 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Didn’t Ed Sullivan introduce America to the Beatles?

    yes he did in Feb. 1964


  30. Speranza
    30 | April 10, 2010 10:03 pm

    Man the threads today have been DEAD!!!


  31. NoThreat2U
    31 | April 10, 2010 10:04 pm

    @ Speranza:
    I think I killed it. So many on here are usually on at the ungodly hours between 3 & 5 AM I notice. lol


  32. 32 | April 10, 2010 10:05 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Man the threads today have been DEAD!!!

    Did you say “DEAD”?

    httpv://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=grateful+dead+touch+of+grey&aq=1


  33. NoThreat2U
    33 | April 10, 2010 10:05 pm

    Well, goodnite and I hope savage sees my thank you message :)


  34. 34 | April 10, 2010 10:06 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Man the threads today have been DEAD!!!

    Uh, did you say “DEAD”?


  35. 35 | April 10, 2010 10:07 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    Well, goodnite and I hope savage sees my thank you message

    Goodnight!


  36. huckfunn
    36 | April 10, 2010 10:08 pm


    The Young Rascals Good Lovin’


  37. 37 | April 10, 2010 10:10 pm


  38. 38 | April 10, 2010 10:10 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    Didn’t Ed Sullivan introduce America to the Beatles?
    yes he did in Feb. 1964


  39. 39 | April 10, 2010 10:11 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    Did you have the wienerschnitzel?


  40. 40 | April 10, 2010 10:13 pm

    savage @ 26:

    Watched it with the whole family as we did every Ed show.

    The old man says, “if I catch any of you with hair like that you’ll be bald for the rest of your lives” four boys. lol


  41. 41 | April 10, 2010 10:16 pm

    NEW ORLEANS — Mitt Romney won the straw poll at the Southern Republican Leadership conference here Saturday in a victory that will be taken as a sign of the former Massachusetts governor’s strength as a 2012 presidential candidate

    .

    Good luck with that. I’d sooner vote fer Lyndon LaDouche.


  42. lobo91
    43 | April 10, 2010 10:21 pm

    @ BenZacharia:

    Those things are absolutely meaningless.

    Ron Paul came in second.


  43. huckfunn
    44 | April 10, 2010 10:23 pm

    @ Beltfed:
    I think every 13-16 year old boy in the US made some attempt at playing that drum solo on his desk at school at least once.


  44. 45 | April 10, 2010 10:23 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ BenZacharia:
    Those things are absolutely meaningless.
    Ron Paul came in second.

    That’s why their called “straw”…..


  45. 46 | April 10, 2010 10:25 pm

    @ IslandLibertarian:

    Ok so was that before they were on the Sullivan Show?


  46. 47 | April 10, 2010 10:26 pm

    @ BenZacharia:

    I’m going to Nuclear on Romney during the primaries. He’s a Progressive like Obama. he’s a fake and a fraud.


  47. 48 | April 10, 2010 10:28 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    @ Beltfed:
    I think every 13-16 year old boy in the US made some attempt at playing that drum solo on his desk at school at least once.

    My first set of drumsticks were the little cardboard tube from wire coathangers :D


  48. lobo91
    49 | April 10, 2010 10:28 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    I think every 13-16 year old boy in the US made some attempt at playing that drum solo on his desk at school at least once.

    Supposedly, that solo was how the Van Halen boys decided which of them would play the drums. Alex played it better. The rest is history.


  49. Speranza
    50 | April 10, 2010 10:28 pm

    Not a fan of U2′s politics but this is a great song


  50. Speranza
    51 | April 10, 2010 10:30 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    I’m going to Nuclear on Romney during the primaries. He’s a Progressive like Obama. he’s a fake and a fraud.

    Idiot Republicans still hooked on the concept of “next in line” for their candidates. What’s the matter – Bob Dole is not interested in another run?


  51. 52 | April 10, 2010 10:30 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ IslandLibertarian:
    Ok so was that before they were on the Sullivan Show?

    Ed Sullivn was their first American debut. They were selling albums before that.


  52. huckfunn
    53 | April 10, 2010 10:31 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    @ lobo91:
    Those were the days. I just tried it again and Mrs. Funn told me to knock it off.


  53. Speranza
    54 | April 10, 2010 10:31 pm

    @ Speranza:
    or how about Kay Baily Hutchison and Jeb Bush or maybe Richard Lugar?


  54. 55 | April 10, 2010 10:33 pm

    I think we need a fresh conservative blood transfusion.


  55. huckfunn
    56 | April 10, 2010 10:36 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    or how about Kay Baily Hutchison and Jeb Bush or maybe Richard Lugar?

    Yuck! The one that really gives me the willies is Ron Paul. He was my congressman until they re-gerrymandered several years back. Now I’m stuck with Lloyd Doggett, friend of the hippie.


  56. Eliana
    57 | April 10, 2010 10:36 pm

    Straw polls are definitely meaningless.

    Liberals cling desperately to the results of GOP straw polls because they need to know in advance who they’re supposed to be trashing to the ends of the Earth.

    They can’t function without a direct target for their bile.

    They’ve been spraying most of it at Sarah Palin lately since Bush isn’t around anymore, but they really wanted a solid commitment from the GOP on January 21, 2009 about who the next official GOP candidate will be so that they could get as much of a head start on their sliming as possible.

    The libs won’t get any sleep at all until they know the identity of their next GOP target.

    Nasty little devils, aren’t they.


  57. Speranza
    58 | April 10, 2010 10:38 pm

    @ Eliana:

    Libs love to pick the Republican candidates. They picked McCain and the inbred GOP primary voters selected him as their torch bearer. Great move!


  58. Speranza
    59 | April 10, 2010 10:40 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Yuck! The one that really gives me the willies is Ron Paul. He was my congressman until they re-gerrymandered several years back. Now I’m stuck with Lloyd Doggett, friend of the hippie

    Ron Paul is a freak. AS for Hutchison – Bush – someone who posts here actually suggested that as a ticket (Jeb for POTUS and KBH for VP). I almost vomited.


  59. 60 | April 10, 2010 10:41 pm

    Watts/West ’12

    Aguy can dream can’t he?


  60. Eliana
    61 | April 10, 2010 10:42 pm

    @ Speranza:

    The best candidates (Fred Thompson, Rudy Giuliani) didn’t run hard enough. Then the second tier candidates split the conservative vote.

    McCain ended up being the recipient of these two problems.

    We didn’t want him but we were stuck with him.

    The GOP has to get a lot more involved in this process ahead of time in 2012 so they we don’t end up with another accidental candidate.


  61. Speranza
    62 | April 10, 2010 10:42 pm

    Romney though would’ve been a much better candidate then McCain (but then I would’ve been a much better candidate then the Cranky Old Flatulent Bastard).


  62. Speranza
    63 | April 10, 2010 10:44 pm

    Eliana wrote:

    The best candidates (Fred Thompson, Rudy Giuliani) didn’t run hard enough. Then the second tier candidates split the conservative vote.

    McCain ended up being the recipient of these two problems.

    We didn’t want him but we were stuck with him.

    The GOP has to get a lot more involved in this process ahead of time in 2012 so they we don’t end up with another accidental candidate.

    Quite concur amiga! Thompson and Rudy acted as if they were guaranteed the nomination. Both would’ve fought Obama a hell of a lot better then McCain did. Certainly Rudy would’ve but he got terrible advice about putting it all into Florida.


  63. snork
    64 | April 10, 2010 10:45 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Idiot Republicans still hooked on the concept of “next in line” for their candidates. What’s the matter – Bob Dole is not interested in another run?

    The only way to put an end to this insiderism is to show up at the caucuses and turn out for the primaries (and some states, line mine, have both).


  64. 65 | April 10, 2010 10:45 pm

    @ BenZacharia:

    No, Allen West should have top billing.


  65. Speranza
    66 | April 10, 2010 10:45 pm

    BenZacharia wrote:

    Watts/West ‘12
    Aguy can dream can’t he?

    What has JC Watts done lately to deserve the nomination?


  66. Speranza
    67 | April 10, 2010 10:46 pm

    @ BenZacharia:
    Why not Micahel Steele then?


  67. Speranza
    68 | April 10, 2010 10:47 pm

    snork wrote:

    The only way to put an end to this insiderism is to show up at the caucuses and turn out for the primaries (and some states, line mine, have both).

    The next person who suggest Gingrich is going to get a punch in the mouth from me.


  68. snork
    69 | April 10, 2010 10:48 pm

    BenZacharia wrote:

    Watts/West ‘12

    Aguy can dream can’t he?

    Cantor/West. That one has a little more head splody potential.


  69. Eliana
    70 | April 10, 2010 10:49 pm

    Ok, here’s some cool news from Israel:

    IDF order will enable mass deportation from West Bank

    A new military order aimed at preventing infiltration will come into force this week, enabling the deportation of tens of thousands of Palestinians from the West Bank, or their indictment on charges carrying prison terms of up to seven years.

    When the order comes into effect, tens of thousands of Palestinians will automatically become criminal offenders liable to be severely punished.

    Given the security authorities’ actions over the past decade, the first Palestinians likely to be targeted under the new rules will be those whose ID cards bear home addresses in the Gaza Strip – people born in Gaza and their West Bank-born children – or those born in the West Bank or abroad who for various reasons lost their residency status. Also likely to be targeted are foreign-born spouses of Palestinians.

    Until now, Israeli civil courts have occasionally prevented the expulsion of these three groups from the West Bank. The new order, however, puts them under the sole jurisdiction of Israeli military courts.

    The new order defines anyone who enters the West Bank illegally as an infiltrator, as well as “a person who is present in the area and does not lawfully hold a permit.” The order takes the original 1969 definition of infiltrator to the extreme, as the term originally applied only to those illegally staying in Israel after having passed through countries then classified as enemy states – Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon and Syria.

    The order’s language is both general and ambiguous, stipulating that the term infiltrator will also be applied to Palestinian residents of Jerusalem, citizens of countries with which Israel has friendly ties (such as the United States) and Israeli citizens, whether Arab or Jewish. All this depends on the judgment of Israel Defense Forces commanders in the field.

    The new guidelines are expected to clamp down on protests in the West Bank.


  70. Speranza
    71 | April 10, 2010 10:49 pm

    @ snork:
    Nominating a ticket of Watts and West smacks of trying to one up the Democrats in racial pandering.


  71. 72 | April 10, 2010 10:49 pm

    savage wrote:

    @ BenZacharia:
    No, Allen West should have top billing.

    Watts has a proven track record.


  72. lobo91
    73 | April 10, 2010 10:50 pm

    Getting rid of the open primaries would help, too.


  73. 74 | April 10, 2010 10:50 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Steele? You gotta be kidding me. Fucking ballless RINO cocksucker. That mofo can kiss my ass, stupid son of a bitch.


  74. Speranza
    75 | April 10, 2010 10:50 pm

    @ Eliana:
    Just finish the damned security fence. It is criminal that it still is not finished.


  75. Speranza
    76 | April 10, 2010 10:51 pm

    savage wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Steele? You gotta be kidding me. Fucking ballless RINO cocksucker. That mofo can kiss my ass, stupid son of a bitch.

    Geezus Louizas I as being sarcastic and pointing out that Watts and West smacks of racial pandering.


  76. Speranza
    77 | April 10, 2010 10:52 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Getting rid of the open primaries would help, too.

    Quite concur!


  77. 78 | April 10, 2010 10:52 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ BenZacharia:
    Why not Micahel Steele then?

    I don’t do ‘affirmative action’ politicians.


  78. Speranza
    79 | April 10, 2010 10:53 pm

    BenZacharia wrote:

    Watts has a proven track record.

    A proven track record of what exactly? and if he were white wold you be touting him?


  79. Eliana
    80 | April 10, 2010 10:53 pm

    The anti-Jews will go nuts, but it’s about time Israel started kicking out the illegal aliens from Judea and Samaria!

    Sometimes, this means kicking out leftwing Jews who are living there illegally while protesting every single week against Israel’s security fence.

    Kick ‘em out!

    Israel did kick out one Jewish guy who was working for the English language version of some Arab newspaper. He was living illegally in Judea among the Arabs and he went to Israel’s airport to go somewhere else (expecting to return to Israel in a few days).

    He was doing all this without any sort of extended visa or citizenship in Israel, so Israel threw the guy out and told him not to come back. He and his leftist friends squawked about it but I think he’s still out of the country.


  80. Speranza
    81 | April 10, 2010 10:54 pm

    BenZacharia wrote:

    I don’t do ‘affirmative action’ politicians.

    Well WAtts (who left congress many years ago), and West who has not even been elected to congress – what would you call them?


  81. 82 | April 10, 2010 10:56 pm

    huckfunn @ 53:

    lol. My mom’s wooden spoon was better, she would whack us on the hands when we played wipe out on the dinner table.


  82. 83 | April 10, 2010 10:56 pm

    @ Speranza:

    …Watts and West smacks of racial pandering.

    And McCain/Palin wasn’t racist, agist and sexist pandering?


  83. 84 | April 10, 2010 10:56 pm

    All JC Watts fucking did was play football in college, not a damn thing else.

    West scared the living crap out of a terrorist and kept our guys from getting killed in an ambush.

    I want WARRIORS in office, not a bunch of pansies.


  84. Speranza
    85 | April 10, 2010 10:57 pm

    I mean if we are going to go for pandering as the Democrats do we can nominate Condoleeza Rice. (She still would get only 2% of the Black vote).


  85. 86 | April 10, 2010 10:57 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Time for you to take your racial insinuations and shove them up your ass.


  86. Speranza
    87 | April 10, 2010 10:58 pm

    @ savage:
    Watts (a good guy by the way) has no business being on the top ticket. West has not even been elected to congress yet.


  87. Speranza
    88 | April 10, 2010 10:58 pm

    BenZacharia wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Time for you to take your racial insinuations and shove them up your ass.

    Fuck you


  88. Eliana
    89 | April 10, 2010 10:59 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Just finish the damned security fence. It is criminal that it still is not finished.

    Yup — finish the security fence AND kick out the illegal aliens!


  89. 90 | April 10, 2010 10:59 pm

    @ PaladinPhil:
    OMG! that is my favorite song of all time!


  90. wolfie
    91 | April 10, 2010 10:59 pm

    I’ll take “Good Lovin’” ….with “Dream Lover” on the side.
    And a mojito.

    Unfortunately, I have no fresh mint, so I’ll have …
    a) a mediocre daiquiri
    b) a good Cuba Libre
    c) rum and orange juice
    d) Ron Paul

    (LOL! I just realized when I typed Ron Paul that ron=rum in Spanish!)
    :lol:


  91. lobo91
    92 | April 10, 2010 11:00 pm

    I say we nominate my Sheltie, then. She’s black on top, white underneath, and has some tan on her nose, so she’s got all the major pandering categories covered.


  92. 93 | April 10, 2010 11:00 pm

    @ Speranza:

    I’m sure Watts has a good heart, but we need fresh blood in office, not career politicians. Watts is just another in a long line of careerists.


  93. Bumr50
    94 | April 10, 2010 11:01 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Get a load of this headline.

    Mexican illegal arrested in Murrysville carjacking attempt fond of U.S. life

    Illegal immigrant Noe Tovar Baltazar knows that you can go home again.

    His problem seems to be staying there.

    At 23, he has been caught twice illegally entering the United States and voluntarily returned to Mexico, according to Murrysville police, who recently charged him with attempting to hijack a car outside a shopping center.


  94. lobo91
    95 | April 10, 2010 11:02 pm

    @ Eliana:

    Yup — finish the security fence AND kick out the illegal aliens!

    After the Israelis get done doing that, can we do the same?


  95. Speranza
    96 | April 10, 2010 11:03 pm

    savage wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I’m sure Watts has a good heart, but we need fresh blood in office, not career politicians. Watts is just another in a long line of careerists.

    I agree. Get people in there who would know what they are doing. Don’t act like Democrats. Watts might have had a future had he stayed n congress an d built up an impressive legislative record, West if elected might have a great future too but he needs to get some experience.


  96. Overlook
    97 | April 10, 2010 11:03 pm

    From Drudge – UK election too close to call.
    It really does look like there will have to be a realignment of Tories into conservatives and “wets”. I think the same thing will have to happen here. The Republicans will split along the libertarians v. compassionates.
    Sad to say, that the governing coalitions can do a lot of damage before the conservative/libertarian parties are able to take power.


  97. Speranza
    98 | April 10, 2010 11:04 pm

    @ Bumr50:
    according to Geraldo Rivera all they are doing here is looking for a better life. yeah that must be it.


  98. Speranza
    99 | April 10, 2010 11:05 pm

    @ Overlook:
    Problem is that the Tories under David Cameron remind me of compassionate conservatives here in America.


  99. Overlook
    100 | April 10, 2010 11:06 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ Overlook:
    Problem is that the Tories under David Cameron remind me of compassionate conservatives here in America.

    Far, far worse. Cameron is an Alinskyite. Openly. See Melanie Phillips.


  100. snork
    101 | April 10, 2010 11:07 pm

    savage wrote:

    All JC Watts fucking did was play football in college, not a damn thing else.

    West scared the living crap out of a terrorist and kept our guys from getting killed in an ambush.

    I want WARRIORS in office, not a bunch of pansies.

    Ding.


  101. 102 | April 10, 2010 11:07 pm

    @ Speranza:

    If Jerry was able to find Al Capones gold in that vault, I’d think better of the idiot…


  102. lobo91
    103 | April 10, 2010 11:07 pm

    @ Speranza:

    according to Geraldo Rivera all they are doing here is looking for a better life. yeah that must be it.

    Certainly explains the carjacking…


  103. Speranza
    104 | April 10, 2010 11:08 pm

    @ snork:

    Don’t get me wrong J.C. Watts is a good guy but there is nothing at all about him that suggests he is presidential material.


  104. Speranza
    105 | April 10, 2010 11:09 pm

    savage wrote:

    If Jerry was able to find Al Capones gold in that vault, I’d think better of the idiot…

    He looks like 1970′s porn star Harry Reems.


  105. Speranza
    106 | April 10, 2010 11:10 pm

    Overlook wrote:

    Far, far worse. Cameron is an Alinskyite. Openly. See Melanie Phillips.

    and William Hague their “shadow Foreign Secretary” is a bit of an Israel basher himself.


  106. Overlook
    107 | April 10, 2010 11:11 pm

    John Bolton would be the best president. But he is “unelectable”.
    Which tells you something about the schizophrenic nature of American democracy.


  107. huckfunn
    108 | April 10, 2010 11:11 pm

    savage wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    If Jerry was able to find Al Capones gold in that vault, I’d think better of the idiot…

    I’ve detested Horrendo ever since. All he came up with was an empty wine bottle. Shameless, shallow showboater.


  108. Eliana
    109 | April 10, 2010 11:12 pm

    Did The Blogmocracy suddenly join the Eastern Daylight Savings Time zone recently?

    This blog has been on Pacific time until recently, right?


  109. Overlook
    110 | April 10, 2010 11:12 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Only UKIP may be Israel friendly – but UKIP is hiding its light under a bushel in an undisclosed location.


  110. Speranza
    111 | April 10, 2010 11:12 pm

    Overlook wrote:

    John Bolton would be the best president. But he is “unelectable”.
    Which tells you something about the schizophrenic nature of American democracy

    I love John Bolton. Actually he would be better served as Sec. of State.


  111. 112 | April 10, 2010 11:14 pm

    BALLS

    NO BALLS

    Take your pick, you all know where I stand. hehhe


  112. Speranza
    113 | April 10, 2010 11:14 pm

    Eliana wrote:

    Did The Blogmocracy suddenly join the Eastern Daylight Savings Time zone recently?
    This blog has been on Pacific time until recently, right?

    Yes to all of those questions.


  113. Overlook
    114 | April 10, 2010 11:14 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Every Sec of State has been corrupted by Foggy Bottom. As Prez he could over-ride the arseholes.


  114. Eliana
    115 | April 10, 2010 11:14 pm

    @ Speranza:

    I love John Bolton. Actually he would be better served as Sec. of State.

    Absolutely!

    He would be the most kick a$$ Secretary of State we’ve ever had, as far as I know.

    I would love it if he got this job!!


  115. snork
    116 | April 10, 2010 11:14 pm

    @ Speranza:
    More to Savage’s point, West exudes something sorely lacking in GOP candidates: leadership. He knows what he’s all about, he knows what we’re all about, and knows what to do to get there from here. He quite possibly is the closest thing to Reagan that we’ve seen yet. You know, strong horse, and all that.


  116. Eliana
    117 | April 10, 2010 11:15 pm

    @ Overlook:

    Every Sec of State has been corrupted by Foggy Bottom. As Prez he could over-ride the arseholes.

    As Secretary of State, John Bolton could clean up Foggy Bottom once and for all.


  117. Speranza
    118 | April 10, 2010 11:15 pm

    @ savage:
    If we are going to lose (God forbid) let’s at least lose fighting, not like the way McCain rolled over and played dead. For all her shortcomings at least Sarah Heath Palin wanted to fight.


  118. Overlook
    119 | April 10, 2010 11:16 pm

    @ snork:

    Did you mention a strong horse? Obama has not fallen for the false choice between strong horse and weak horse. He is a Smart Horse: Mr Ed.


  119. Speranza
    120 | April 10, 2010 11:17 pm

    Eliana wrote:

    As Secretary of State, John Bolton could clean up Foggy Bottom once and for all

    I do not think that Bolton would’ve gone native the way Condi Rice so shamelessly did.


  120. Speranza
    121 | April 10, 2010 11:17 pm

    @ Overlook:
    he is a horses ass and so are all the fools he appointed to high office.


  121. lobo91
    122 | April 10, 2010 11:18 pm

    @ Eliana:

    As Secretary of State, John Bolton could clean up Foggy Bottom once and for all.

    There would probably be mass resignations at State if he took over.

    Which sounds good to me…


  122. lobo91
    123 | April 10, 2010 11:19 pm

    @ Overlook:

    Did you mention a strong horse? Obama has not fallen for the false choice between strong horse and weak horse. He is a Smart Horse: Mr Ed.

    He’s one of those coin-operated horses they used to have out in front of the grocery store when we were kids…


  123. wolfie
    124 | April 10, 2010 11:19 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    according to Geraldo Rivera all they are doing here is looking for a better life.

    Why does he think that is relevant? What part of ILLEGAL doesn’t he understand? I don’t care if they’re joining the Boy Scouts and knitting blankets for the poor.


  124. Overlook
    125 | April 10, 2010 11:19 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Eliana wrote:
    As Secretary of State, John Bolton could clean up Foggy Bottom once and for all
    I do not think that Bolton would’ve gone native the way Condi Rice so shamelessly did.

    I have never liked Condi Rice since she “identified” with Palestinians because she was black. Her Russian expertise did not get us very far – or not far enough to prevent Mr. Ed from taking us back to square one.


  125. Speranza
    126 | April 10, 2010 11:20 pm

    @ lobo91:
    The mass resignations could not come quick enough. Most would probably go to work for Saudi Arabia and other Arab oil producing nations.


  126. Eliana
    127 | April 10, 2010 11:21 pm

    @ lobo91:

    As Secretary of State, John Bolton could clean up Foggy Bottom once and for all.

    There would probably be mass resignations at State if he took over.

    Which sounds good to me…

    Sounds good to me, too.

    It would save Bolton time and it would save taxpayers the expenses of firing them.


  127. Speranza
    128 | April 10, 2010 11:21 pm

    Overlook wrote:

    I have never liked Condi Rice since she “identified” with Palestinians because she was black. Her Russian expertise did not get us very far – or not far enough to prevent Mr. Ed from taking us back to square one.

    She was singularly unimpressive as sec. of State. Not one of Bush’s better appointments. There is a reason why she as referred to as Clueless Condi.


  128. Speranza
    129 | April 10, 2010 11:23 pm

    wolfie wrote:

    Why does he think that is relevant? What part of ILLEGAL doesn’t he understand? I don’t care if they’re joining the Boy Scouts and knitting blankets for the poor.

    Geraldo Rivera wants to turn America into a majority Spanish speaking country.


  129. Overlook
    130 | April 10, 2010 11:23 pm

    @ Speranza:

    I am sick of female Secretaries.


  130. Eliana
    131 | April 10, 2010 11:24 pm

    @ Speranza:

    The mass resignations could not come quick enough. Most would probably go to work for Saudi Arabia and other Arab oil producing nations.

    They should be made to sign a non-disclosure agreement that also says that they can’t be employed by other countries until they’ve been out of the State Department for 25 years.


  131. Overlook
    132 | April 10, 2010 11:25 pm

    @ Eliana:

    And they lose the vote.


  132. Eliana
    133 | April 10, 2010 11:26 pm

    @ Overlook:

    Agreed!


  133. wolfie
    134 | April 10, 2010 11:27 pm

    Eliana wrote:

    They should be made to sign a non-disclosure agreement that also says that they can’t be employed by other countries until they’ve been out of the State Department for 25 years.

    Oh, let ‘em go to Riyadh. Just don’t let them come back.


  134. Overlook
    135 | April 10, 2010 11:28 pm

    @ Eliana:

    But going back to the new policy in Arab illegals. Is this preparation for the declaration/imposition of Palestine in 2011?


  135. Speranza
    136 | April 10, 2010 11:29 pm

    Eliana wrote:

    They should be made to sign a non-disclosure agreement that also says that they can’t be employed by other countries until they’ve been out of the State Department for 25 years.

    Someone has been pressing for a law to make it illegal to work for a a country that you worked in as a diplomat.


  136. Speranza
    137 | April 10, 2010 11:31 pm

    Overlook wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I am sick of female Secretaries.

    Hillary certainly has been doing a shitty job as Sec of State. I wish Netanyahu had told her to piss off on the phone when she subjugated him to a 45 minute brow beating as if she was Naomi Campbell and he was her house cleaner.


  137. Eliana
    138 | April 10, 2010 11:32 pm

    @ Overlook:

    But going back to the new policy in Arab illegals. Is this preparation for the declaration/imposition of Palestine in 2011?

    Well, if the “Palestinians” declare their state unilaterally in 2011, I think Israel will annex Judea and Samaria (and possibly even Gaza) in response.

    So this could be preparation for Israel annexing Judea and Samaria so that the illegal aliens will be gone ahead of time.

    Also, Israel has been telling the “Palestinians” that if they plan to make a unilateral move towards statehood, Israel will make some unilateral moves of her own (such as dissolving the Oslo Accords which would end a HECK of a lot of Israeli cooperation that’s been going on with the “Palestinian Authority”).

    If they declare statehood, they’re going to be claiming areas where 500,000 Jews live and saying that these Jews are trespassing or whatever.

    Israel can dissolve the Oslo Accords and kick Fatah out of the country.

    We’ll see.


  138. chickadee
    139 | April 10, 2010 11:33 pm

    General Petraeus/ Col. Allen West


  139. Eliana
    140 | April 10, 2010 11:34 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Someone has been pressing for a law to make it illegal to work for a a country that you worked in as a diplomat.

    We need this law.

    What these people are doing amounts to treason.


  140. Eliana
    141 | April 10, 2010 11:36 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Hillary certainly has been doing a shitty job as Sec of State. I wish Netanyahu had told her to piss off on the phone when she subjugated him to a 45 minute brow beating as if she was Naomi Campbell and he was her house cleaner.

    Then she bragged about it to the world with her statement that putting “pressure” on Israel was paying off.

    A friend of mine told me that Netanyahu should have ended the 45 minute conversation by asking, “Yes, but what does your husband think?” :-)

    Hillary would have rocketed to the moon without a space ship.


  141. lobo91
    142 | April 10, 2010 11:37 pm

    @ chickadee:

    General Petraeus/ Col. Allen West

    Petraeus won’t run in 2012.

    Maybe sometime after, though.


  142. Overlook
    143 | April 10, 2010 11:37 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Albright. Rice. Clinton.

    One trots after Kim Jong Il, begging him to come back to the table. Smart.
    One sympathises with the suffering of terrorists. Smarter.
    One is willing to see Iran get the bomb, re-sets Russia to take back the USSR, and watches while China lends us the money to buy the rope they will sell us to hang ourselves. Smartest.


  143. Bill Jenkins
    144 | April 10, 2010 11:40 pm

    @ Overlook:

    Maybe a basketball signed by Lebron this time will get him back to the table.


  144. Speranza
    145 | April 10, 2010 11:43 pm

    @ Overlook:
    Albright ran after Arafat after the master terrorist made like he was walking out of a meeting.


  145. lobo91
    146 | April 10, 2010 11:43 pm

    @ Bill Jenkins:

    Maybe a basketball signed by Lebron this time will get him back to the table.

    The only way I’m interested in seeing Kim “come to the table” is if Joe Pesci’s there to slam his face into a few times, then stab him with a pen.


  146. Speranza
    147 | April 10, 2010 11:44 pm

    Eliana wrote:

    A friend of mine told me that Netanyahu should have ended the 45 minute conversation by asking, “Yes, but what does your husband think?

    or he should have said “Would you like fires with that order?”


  147. lobo91
    148 | April 10, 2010 11:44 pm

    @ lobo91:

    That should have been “slam his face into it a few times”


  148. Speranza
    149 | April 10, 2010 11:45 pm

    PIMF – fries with that order


  149. Speranza
    150 | April 10, 2010 11:45 pm

    Bill Jenkins wrote:

    @ Overlook:
    Maybe a basketball signed by Lebron this time will get him back to the table.

    and throw in Kobe’s signature as well.


  150. Speranza
    151 | April 10, 2010 11:49 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    General Petraeus/ Col. Allen West

    Victor Davis Hanson for UN Ambassador.


  151. Overlook
    152 | April 10, 2010 11:49 pm

    @ Eliana:

    There will be something like 20000 American trained and supplied Palestinian “security” personnel by next year.

    Egypt has been sold the combat helicopters that America refused to sell to Israel.

    America stands back while Iran arms Syria.

    The nuclear conference will embolden Egypt and Jordan in what I see as preparations by them to suspend the peace agreements. Turkey is on the verge of suspending trade agreements with Israel.

    America is actively working with Israel’s enemies to force Israel to capitulate.


  152. snork
    153 | April 10, 2010 11:50 pm

    Overlook wrote:

    Albright. Rice. Clinton.

    And Powell was any better?


  153. lobo91
    154 | April 10, 2010 11:50 pm

    I hereby nominate Joe Pesci to be Secretary of State if he’ll do this to Kim:


  154. Overlook
    155 | April 10, 2010 11:51 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ Overlook:
    Albright ran after Arafat after the master terrorist made like he was walking out of a meeting.

    You’re right. I knew it was some disgusting murderous despot.


  155. Overlook
    156 | April 10, 2010 11:53 pm

    snork wrote:

    Overlook wrote:
    Albright. Rice. Clinton.
    And Powell was any better?

    Cannot name a single Secretary of State – male or female – that I have admired.


  156. lobo91
    157 | April 10, 2010 11:57 pm

    @ Overlook:

    Cannot name a single Secretary of State – male or female – that I have admired.

    Thomas Jefferson?


  157. snork
    158 | April 11, 2010 12:02 am

    @ lobo91:
    Kinda went downhill from there, dinnit?


  158. Eliana
    159 | April 11, 2010 12:02 am

    @ Overlook:

    America is actively working with Israel’s enemies to force Israel to capitulate.

    Yes, this is exactly what Zero is trying to do.

    However, Egypt’s Mubarak (Hosni) was quoted as saying in 2001 that “war with Israel is a trap.”

    Egypt has been down this road where they thought they couldn’t lose. They lost.

    Zero is asking Israel to commit national suicide.

    All-out war would be preferable to voluntary national suicide.

    Zero simply doesn’t know this (or else he doesn’t care).


  159. lobo91
    160 | April 11, 2010 12:07 am

    @ snork:

    Kinda went downhill from there, dinnit?

    I still think Joe Pesci could turn things around.


  160. Calo
    161 | April 11, 2010 12:54 am

    I need a link to a Che thread on this site please


  161. Calo
    162 | April 11, 2010 1:07 am

    My 15 year old child thinks that Che is a “Revolutionary” hero – and ignores his murders. I would like to “smack” him with a link.. please.


  162. m
    164 | April 11, 2010 1:21 am

    @ Calo:

    Oh – then:

    http://www.therealcuba.com/MurderedbyChe.htm


  163. m
    165 | April 11, 2010 1:31 am

    http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1535

    or:

    *i’d watch it for bias first* – haven’t watched that whole thing.


  164. The Osprey
    166 | April 11, 2010 4:05 am

    Calo wrote:

    My 15 year old child thinks that Che is a “Revolutionary” hero – and ignores his murders. I would like to “smack” him with a link.. please.

    Smack him upside the head with Humberto Fontova’s book “Exposing The Real Che”.


  165. The Osprey
    167 | April 11, 2010 4:08 am

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    Something a little different from a better time

    I’ll raise you one…


  166. The Osprey
    168 | April 11, 2010 4:10 am

    And one more…


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