Neil Armstrong was the first man to walk on the moon and a prime example of American exceptionalism. He blasts Obama for his recent cuts to the Space program. I agree with Armstrong and feel this is suicidal on America’s part and here’s a historical perspective on it.
In the early 1400′s China was the most advanced nation on Earth. Between 1405-1430, several Chinese Emperors appointed Court Eunuch Zheng He to command the most advanced fleet ever seen at the time on voyage expeditions. The goal of these missions was to establish Chinese control over Asian trade routes. The Fleets traveled to South East Asia, India, Sri Lanka, the Persian Gulf, Red Sea and Africa. Many nations soon came under Chinese influence and recognized Ming China as overlords. In 1430 Zheng died on his 7th and final voyage. At his death, China was at its peak and had the voyages continued, China would have discovered Europe and the Americas. Instead, short sighted Chinese rulers scrapped the fleets, thus opening up the Seas to the Latin European powers of Spain and Portugal. This would lead to Western global domination for the next 500 years. Now the west, with America as its head, is ceding space to others with the decision of Barack Hussein Obama to give up manned space missions.
The first man to walk on the moon blasted President Barack Obama’s decision to cancel NASA’s back-to-the-moon program on Tuesday, saying that the move is “devastating” to America’s space effort.
Apollo 11 commander Neil Armstrong’s open letter was also signed by Apollo 17 commander Eugene Cernan, the last man to walk on the moon; and Apollo 13 commander Jim Lovell, who is marking the 40th anniversary of his famous lunar non-landing this week.
The letter was released to NBC News just two days in advance of Obama’s trip to NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida for a space policy summit. Obama is expected to flesh out his vision for the space agency’s future during his speech at the summit.
Read the rest: First moonwalker blasts Obama’s space plan
Ironically, China is stepping up its space missions and is aiming to put a man on the moon. History is now in full circle as the Chinese are filling the space vacated by the West. We are ceding the high ground to other powers and this is suicidal. Many technologies have resulted from the Space Program and this is one area the government needs to be involved in. Neil Armstrong is right to call Obama out on this.
FYI: Muslims claim Neil Armstrong was Islamic and took the shahada after hearing the adzam [adhaan or azaanezan- "call to prayer"] on the moon. He has denied it, but this doesn’t stop Islamic propagandists from making this ridiculous claim.
Update: Barack Hussein Obama is set to unveil a new Space plan where the US will rely on the Russians and private companies for future space missions. The one area where government should be involved in, Obama is outsourcing. This is suicidal and a danger to American national security.
Tags: Neil Armstrong, Zheng He
Don’t the muzz believe Neil Armstrong is one of them? lol.
@ vagabond trader:
Yes I mentioned it as well.
zero is trying to destroy every program and founding principe that made this country great.
He thinks our exceptionalism makes other countries feel bad abt. themselves
Look how he is knocking us down anyway he can.
BTW, personal income for Americans has decline 3.2% in the short time zero has been in office.
Under Pres. Bush in the same time period, it went up 12%. ( I heard that on Rush yesterday )
So the truth comes out. Neil Armstrong is a racist in addition to being a misogynist.
That whole mark one up for the patriarchy thing he did when he jumped off of the LEM ladder has always bothered me to the core and I have been suspicious of his motivation ever since.
Don’t trust white men with buzzcuts, they all mean to harm everything!
/Media Benjamin mode
So how much Malox does the average USSS agent on the POTUS protective detail consume a week to keep their stomachs down while around the usurper.
It is funny. When it would help Americans (like SSI, for instance) the Democrats are against privitizing. Some things are too important to let the little people take care of on their own. But when it comes to things that help make this nation great, endevors where the whole of the people need to contribute, and projects that are to big for the private sector to undertake, the Democrats favor privitizing. Or, more accurately, outsourcing to other
economiescountries who will then reap the first benefits of any new technology or resource.Do I have to say it again? we can tell whose side these freaks are on. There is really no debate about it anymore. And it isn’t the side of the angels.
Neil Armstrong, Jim Lovell, and Gene Cernan have just become Enemies of the State.
@ Rodan:
lol sorry,so ridiculous. Good for Armstrong and he usually doesn’t have much to say. He’d better watch out for those death panels tho.
Ludwig said that I’m anti-science, so I’m going to have to agree with Obama on this one.
Racists!!!!!!
The funding is being redirect towards muslim outreach. (last I heard)
It is racist to suggest our space program is more important that muslim outreach.
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Or is it simply jizya by another name?
Rodan: I have no problem with private companies going into space. It’s the Russians I have the problem with.
OT: Did you know that my teachers in grade school suggested I become ans astronaut?
They said I only took up space in their classrooms.
SpaceJesus declined comment.
@ citizen_q:
Jizya by any other name is still sticky and disgusting. You wouldn’t want to get any on you…
Looks like the kool aid is wearing off:
From the WashingtonPost:
citizen_q wrote:
Zero slashed the 100 billion dollar budget for returning to the moon. He thinks it is more important for NASA to shift from space exploration to muzz outreach and diplomacy.
He is fcking insane. Sarkozy is right.
Only a madman would do the outrageous things zero is doing.
There is too much reverential bowing and scraping to these barbaric scum. They have NOTHING to offer NASA. It is absurd. NASA may as well be reaching out to the head shrinking cannibals of Borneo.
@ Urban Infidel:
Don’t they understand that any tool can be ignored when it does not suit your current purpose?
@ Macker:
I have no problems with Private Companies. However, we should not rely on them for our Space program. Their motive is profit and would sell out to the highest bidder. We need a Space Program that focuses on the national Intesrst. Only a governmnet space program can focus on national interests. What is a Chinese company buts a privare company we rely on? We could be hostage to the Chinese. This would be like announcing we will rely on our National Defense on Corporate armies. No thanks.
@ chickadee:
BBL, but here is a supporting link. There were many when I did a google search
@ Rodan:
Give Obama a chance! In his second term, he’ll disband our professional military in favor of foreign mercenary troops from the Middle East. level the playing field between us and the Jihadists. What could possibly go wrong?
Iron Fist wrote:
My first thought was to giggle at the absurdity of this and then . . . . I said, uh oh.
Macker wrote:
I’ll second that. Whilst NASA has achieved great things, for the last 30 years or so the dead hand of the state has held back advancement in space. The combination of various space treaties, the way that NASA is beholden to government requirements and budgeting (not to mention bureaucracy), on top of the fact that it was only recently that they even permitted the private development of spacecraft, has prevented any serious private exploration and exploitation of space.
The shuttle is a beautiful craft, but in real terms it’s a complete failure. The design was completely scuppered by demands the US military placed on it for roles that it has never, every been used for and probably never would have been. It was built as an experimental craft and was originally envisioned as being cycled out of use in just ten or fifteen years for a newer generation of craft that were meant to improve on the technology.
If NASA had been free to develop the craft without government interference forcing the design to wear too many hats then it’s likely it would have been operating at a fraction of the cost. The US could have been well on it’s way to Mars by now.
@ Rodan:
The way I see it, you’d have a space equivalent of the military and private companies filling in everywhere else. The military would be acting in the national interest and protecting private assets in space, performing all those tasks that a military should. The private companies would be mining the moon and delivering pizza.
Sorry to go off topic so early, but this is now the norm in the MSM.
Bobby Jindals main fund raiser and Boyfriend attacked by Anacharist mob after Fund Raising dinner
Where’s the racist innuendo now Chuck??
@ archonix:
Space should also be part of defense. Not just satallite reconnaissance, but anti-sat and orbital weapons platforms. You know the Chinese are thinking along those lines. Our foolish whimsey to “demilitarize” space is going to leave a glaring hole in our defenses that someday an enemy could exploit.
Read somewhere recently, yesterday I think, that the cost per astronaut with the space shuttle was in the neighbourhood of 65 million dollars per launch. There’s a lot wrong with the NASA model. Space travel should have been put into private hands a long time ago.
AND this gives a better explanation of what happened in New Orleans
Iron Fist wrote:
You know the left will go apeshit over that!
@ Iron Fist:
Absolutely. Unfortunately the soviet union pushed for that in order to prevent the US getting a foothold. You can bet Russia still has weapons up there.
I’m sure Obama is getting good advice from General DeMilla-Terizone.
snork wrote:
H8TR! lol
archonix wrote:
The very concept of a reusable spacecraft was based more on the aesthetic notions of politicians than the realities of engineering. It never made any practical sense, and probably never will. If you recall, they original concept was to be launched to 40,000 ft or so on the back of a 747. That made the politicians all orgasmic, but it didn’t pencil out, either from an economic standpoint, or more importantly from an energy standpoint.
This is what happens when you make this a government program -- they start micromanaging the engineering from congress. Political f***wadery is also why the Challenger disaster happened. They were trying to use Gaia friendly O-rings to save the ozone.
I could go on, but I think the point is clear. If you wan technical innovation, you’re not going to get it with politicians and trial lawyers and NGOs making the basic engineering decisions.
Iron Fist wrote:
That is the main purpose of it, IMO. And I consider it an obligation of the federal government, not an option.
The feds are bankrupting us with all of their non-Constitutional programs. In the meantime, they are neglecting their Constitutionally specified duties.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
D. Milli Vanilli?
wolfie wrote:
I thought the main purpose of space was to provide a place to unfold an Earth-sized windshield sunscreen to stop the march of global warming.
Oh, snort…
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
The purpose of space. You’re getting way too heavy for me. You need to go to the comic book blog for that kind of deep philosophy.
@ snork:
That’s true. Until we have a reliable engine that can deliver the thrust of an Atlas V and be small enough to fit in something the size of a B2 and be fuel-efficient enough to reach orbit, an efficient re-usable craft is just a pipedream.
Somewhat related: Orbiter (a free spaceflight simulator) has a fantasy spacecraft of about those specs built in. It’s fun to fly. In fact Orbiter as a whole is quite fun.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Do Not Back Down.
Fight Back Take Your County Back.
Your not alone.
http://www.arizoniarepublic.com
Republicans in Az. Senate and House pass hard illegal bill, OK’s all police to ID illegals.
The R Gov. is on the hot seat now.
McCain will be on a hot seat if it becomes law.
Call the Gov. of Az. office and request she sign the law.
Never Forget.
http://www.blowoutcongress.com
@ archonix:
OK I see what you mean. But we can’t be wholly reliant on them.
on AZ
oops
http://www.azcentral.com/@ taxfreekiller:
@ snork:
YES!
“If not when, now!”
@ taxfreekiller:
tired today…
http://www.arizonarepublic.com
snork wrote:
Under the Universal Therapy Act, “space” exists to be given away. Everyone has had someone at some time tell them to “back off—give me space.” Well, space is so vast that even with burgeoning populations around the globe, there is enough so that everyone can give everyone space. Space is a human right under the Therapy Act.
@ taxfreekiller:
This could get interesting.
She’d better sign.
@ archonix:
But the basic problem isn’t with the craft; it’s with the fuel. It takes about (IIRC) about 10 lb of fuel and oxygen to lift one pound of craft plus payload into space. If the earth were just a little bit larger, it would be impossible to escape with chemical thrust. You need to save every gram of weight, and the way to do that is to shed pieces as you go. In theory you could used jet propulsion up to maybe 80,000 ft, but in the big picture, that’s nothing. That’s a small part of the first stage.
There are other problems as well, but the craft that can take off from a runway and go into space isn’t going to happen until they develop some sort of nuclear-powered propulsion. Again, politics rears its dysfunctional head.
snork wrote:
I didn’t know Bill Clinton was involved in this.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Spatial justice!
wolfie wrote:
No justice, no space!
There are at least 100 Congressional Districts that are in our grasp in Nov.2010.
Act Now, make a plan,do not depend on the Republicn leader ship to do the job. Make it your job America.
If it is not a two party evil money cult, for sure it is the two of them having a party….! At our expense, either way, we end it now.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Spacejustice?
@ snork:
Yeah I knew about the fuel, I just didn’t articulate it very well.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
OT- Mr. Wolf is reading Invisible Man right now, or I should say re-reading it, since he read it in college many, many moons ago. Turns out I missed at least 2/3 of the music allusions. (Mr. W. knows a lot about jazz. I know virtually nothing about it.)
@ Rodan:
OB: (office business)
I’ve have a thread in cue. Please review and set.
Thank you.
Greetings from Beantown -- I’ve been busy so missed this. Sarah Palin is in town -- it’s a Tea Party.
wolfie wrote:
There are a lot of them, starting of course with the quotation of the Louis Armstrong side of “What Did I Do to Be So Black and Blue?”
But the scene where the narrator buys two yams from the street vendor is a reference to the dance “The Yam” (Astaire and Rogers version is on YouTube); the name “Rinehart” is referenced in the Basie/Rushing song “Harvard Blues”; the dances Ballin’ the Jack and the Eagle Rock are referenced towards the end.
A few other things: the Brotherhood leader “Brother Jack” is…Br’er Jack, Jack the Rabbit, the trickster of black folklore. The references to Huck and Jim, and to “Club Calamus,” in the scene where the contents of the “recommendation” letter is revealed, are indications that the character is homosexual.
taxfreekiller wrote:
Yup.
My district is safely held by a conservative, honest Republican who will run unopposed. But Mr. Wolf and I are fixing to interfere as best we can in a couple of nearby districts that are held by sleazeball, Obamacare-voting Democrats. They must go.
The new Az. illegal bill .
http://www.azleg.gov/legtex/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070h.pdf
One from House one from Senate, they are working out a few diff. then on the Gov. for signing.
Put it to your local state house or state senate guys. push, push, push….
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Double plus +1!
not enough sleep.
http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070h.pdf@ taxfreekiller:
@ wolfie:
…oh, and by the way, the apartment house where the Brotherhood leaders foregather is called “the Chthonian,” which is a reference to their being denizens of the netherworld.
@ WrathofG-d:
You are up to bat next.
Sorry for OT but this kills me:
link
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I’ll bet you have caught even more of these references than Mr. Wolf!
Incidentally, when he told me about the Yam, I thought he was pulling my leg. (That’s his hobby, making up silly stories I’ll believe…or even better, telling me silly stories that I won’t believe but that turn out to be true.)
I certainly noticed the Calamus reference and had to assume the hint was fully intentional.
@ Rodan:
muchas gracias amigo!
That’s one small mind for a president
One giant leap in our national debt
wolfie wrote:
The Yam.
@ Guggi:
Wow so they want more money for Tin Pot dictators!
@ daughter of patriots:
You going to see here?
@ Urban Infidel:
How long before Progressives claim Space Travel is a Right?
Let’s send Obama on a one way trip to Uranus. And the Muslims too
Rodan wrote:
Yup, for “big returns for the world as a whole” !
They really, really believe we are stupid.
@ Guggi:
Well it’s big returns for St. Tropez and Marbella!
@ Doppelganger:
Whose anus?
Obamunism
OT:
Some Brits are more honest about their desire to destroy Israel than others.
UK “Watchdog” Group Bans Israeli Ad Showing The Temple Mount (Western Wall) claiming it “misleads” The Viewer Into Thinking It Is In Israel.
Tea Party Movement Mirrors a Deeply Divided America
US President Barack Obama came to power promising to unite the nation. Now he has divided it even more than his predecessor George W. Bush. The burgeoning conservative Tea Party movement is calling for Obama to be removed from office.
The auditorium in Tulsa, Oklahoma is silent for a moment, as the Walkers, a happy couple in their mid-50s, walk onto the stage. They manage an electrical store in the area, and they say that after being married for decades, they still love each other just as much as they did on the first day. They are here to demonstrate that love to the audience — with a passionate kiss.
It’s meant to be an homage to the old, forgotten America, the land of high-school sweethearts and beauty queens, where honesty, decency and loyalty still meant something. A land where the promise of the American dream — that anyone could make it to the top — still reigned supreme. There are 5,000 people — ordinary people — in the audience, including Democrats, Republicans and independents.
Snip
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
@ Guggi:
as you will see in the next Thread, he isn’t doing too good of a job of uniting the World either. (even worse than Bush)
@ Doppelganger:
Sending the Muslims to Uranus is actually not a bad idea!
citizen_q wrote:
All anus that’s fit to print.
WrathofG-d wrote:
bbbbut Bush was a go-it-alone cowboy???
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
WOW.
Rodan wrote:
They are already in space.
UPDATE: Lou Dobbs will be headlining the NYC Tea Party tomorrow.
Rodan wrote:
I think it’s over -- began at 10AM, there was talk in the office we’d be missing it…lovely day for it.
@ Rodan:
That is what I meant above when I crossed out “economies” in favor of countries. It is both, really. But America will still be footing the bill for all the R&D necessary to develop the space program no matter where it is located. It i s just that American workers and businesses will no longer benefit from that money being spent. Instead it will go overseas. And that is fully intentional.
@ WrathofG-d:
I read it, he’s pissing off allies and our enemies don’t respect him. He’s like a mischievous child pissing everyone off and thinks its cute. Hell he’s pissing Americans off as well!
@ Iron Fist:
That is the plan!
WrathofG-d wrote:
Feh!
Its crap like that, that has we wavering between schadenfreude for Briton’s long history of antisemitism, and sympathy for an ally at their travails.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Hey! Who mentioned the NY Slimes?
Rodan,
I am somewhat comforted by the fact that the Zero won’t be President forever. The stunting of NASA’s achievement will only last until January 2013. One of the many problems with the Zero is that he is truly a narcissist. He is operating fully under the delusion that he was elected emporer.
@ Hotair.
@ citizen_q:
It is things like this over the years that has moved me away from being a “two-state” (actual 3) solution advocate to one who wouldn’t mind if they went back to Jordan.
As most here know, the more Israel gives the more demands are made on her. They have given Gaza, and offered Judea & Samaria, so now the message changes to Jerusalem, and then to take Jews rights to the Tempe Mount. It never ends.
Separation for peace!
WrathofG-d wrote:
I am of the same mind.
I am wondering if the coming global and regional problems that zero seems to be fanning might be an opportunity in that regard.
Israel should do what it needs to do for survival, safety and peace for its citizens, and everyone will be to busy saving there own collective keysters, or weak to do any more than cluck at the UN>
This would make an excellent sign for the Tea Party:
@ Flyovercountry:
He really wishes he was one of those 3rd World dictators he grew up admiring.
@ Urban Infidel:
He will get them riled up!
@ citizen_q:
I’m not going to smear all Brits. It’s the Progressives who are the issue.
@ WrathofG-d:
They’re trying to take over Arizona now, too?
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@ Macker:
Gene Cernan does not like Obama. He supported McCain. He was on talk radio saying Obama was a socialist and would reduce the space program. The USA needs to remain the leader of the High Frontier. If we keep the High Ground then we can control the low lands. If China captures it then we’re lost.
Looks like we will all be going to sleep by the light of a Communist Chinese Moon.
lobo91 wrote:
The Tempe Mount is the home of the holiest site in Arizona football…ASU Sun Devil Stadium.