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The Consequence Management Response Force

by savage ( 189 Comments › )
Filed under Elections 2010, Military, Politics at April 17th, 2010 - 6:00 pm

The Consequence Management Response Force, otherwise known as the First Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry, is a unit that is being trained at Fort Stewart GA. This unit consists of 80,000 members. The mission of the CMRF is to assist with the breakdown of civil authority in the case of a CBRNE (chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive) event.

But there is something else going on…

According to Pat Dollard, a talk show host in his area said he was in contact with a member of the military who stated that “the armed forces have been alerted to the strong possibility that civil unrest may occur in the United States this summer, prior to the midterm elections of 2010.”

Keep this phrase in mind, ok?

civil unrest may occur in the United States this summer, prior to the midterm elections of 2010.

Barack Obama and the Democrats are well aware that most citizens have had it up to here with the Chicago-style strategy of government and the wholesale hijacking of just about everything that makes this Republic what it is. Key industries. Banks. The medical industry. Automobiles. On and on it goes. Ignorance of the Constitution. Rule by decree. Burying the American people in a pile of debt the size of the Himalayas that will not be paid for at least 3 to 4 generations from my vantage point.

I’m sure many of us out here are wondering where the tipping point will finally be reached. I’m honestly surprised nothing has happened yet. Having said that, Obama and his fellow travelers are itching for some type of ‘incident’ that will allow him to implement martial law and suspend the Constitution including elections until such time he and Holder and Pelosi and Reid determine that it is all clear.

And the CMRF seems to be the tool to carry this out.

Anyone think this can’t happen here? Well, I bring to you ‘The Bonus Army’.

Here are some links that might open up a lot of eyeballs… hat tip to rayra for these links.

April 14, 2010 – survivalistboards – ‘Consequence Management Response Force’

April 13, 2010 – Examiner – ‘Special army unit ready to be deployed on American soil just before Nov. elections (Update)’

March 16, 2009 – DVIDS – ‘Task Force Med Earns Consequence Management Response Force Certification’

December 1, 2008 – Washington Post – ‘Pentagon to Detail Troops to Bolster Domestic Security’

October 3, 2008 – CNN – Army combat unit to deploy within U.S.

October 1, 2008 – AF.mil - U.S. Northern Command gains dedicated response force

September 30, 2008 – ArmyTimes – Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1′

September 24, 2008 – Shakesville blog – ‘America 2.0; The Consequence Management Response Force’

September 15, 2008 – Army.mil – ‘Consequence Management Response Force to join Army Northern Command’

What can happen before November no one can say with absolute certainty. I am not trying to scare the living shit out of everyone. But we all must be vigilant.

savage

UPDATE:

possible typo on number of troops in CMRF. Seems to be about 800, not 80000. Got the info from a trusted source…

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  1. Doppelganger
    1 | April 17, 2010 6:02 pm

    Is the next 1776 coming?


  2. mjazz
    2 | April 17, 2010 6:08 pm

    BTW, can you tell us how many guns you own?


  3. 3 | April 17, 2010 6:09 pm

    Well, I already knew this government declared war on the citizens. That just makes it official. My only hope is that these soldiers remember their Oath, especially the part where they swore to protect the Constitution, not the dictator.


  4. 4 | April 17, 2010 6:10 pm

    So Zero is bugging out to NC the same week there is a 2A march in DC.

    Perhaps the COINTELPRO shot heard round the world is being teed up.

    /Alex Jones Mode


  5. 5 | April 17, 2010 6:13 pm

    I’ve been saying that the Democrats are acting like they’ll never have to face the voters again. Maybe that is the plan.


  6. Sheepdogess
    6 | April 17, 2010 6:13 pm

    I smell a MC.


  7. 7 | April 17, 2010 6:14 pm

    @ mjazz:

    I don’t own any guns. Don’t even know anybody who owns any guns…


  8. vagabond trader
    8 | April 17, 2010 6:16 pm

    Very disturbing.


  9. 9 | April 17, 2010 6:16 pm

    @ Sheepdogess:

    what’s an MC?


  10. Sheepdogess
    10 | April 17, 2010 6:16 pm

    So who exactly is responsible for my blue faced, yellow horned cyclops pic?


  11. Sheepdogess
    11 | April 17, 2010 6:16 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Me too.


  12. m
    12 | April 17, 2010 6:18 pm

    Kick ass post Savage. The dark horse…

    ~:)


  13. 13 | April 17, 2010 6:18 pm

    @ Sheepdogess:

    WordPress is.


  14. coldwarrior
    14 | April 17, 2010 6:19 pm

    First Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry, is a unit that is being trained at Fort Stewart GA. This unit consists of 80,000 members.

    bullshit number,

    is this a typo? seriously.


  15. 15 | April 17, 2010 6:19 pm

    @ m:

    Thanks


  16. m
    16 | April 17, 2010 6:19 pm

    @ Sheepdogess:

    lol! It’s cute!

    /you can change it to anything you want at gravatar.com – just sign up with the same email address you use here and there ya go!


  17. Sheepdogess
    17 | April 17, 2010 6:19 pm

    @ savage:

    Maybe our best hope.


  18. m
    18 | April 17, 2010 6:20 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    How many were there?


  19. 19 | April 17, 2010 6:20 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Well, that info comes from the Dollard site


  20. Sheepdogess
    20 | April 17, 2010 6:20 pm

    @ m:

    I’ll keep it. It certainly is interesting.


  21. mjazz
    21 | April 17, 2010 6:21 pm

    Help Wanted – People of all ages to act as agitators in this summer’s upcoming production. No experience necessary.


  22. m
    22 | April 17, 2010 6:21 pm

    8/80/800/8000/


  23. m
    23 | April 17, 2010 6:22 pm

    @ Sheepdogess:

    Definitely unique! ~:D


  24. coldwarrior
    24 | April 17, 2010 6:23 pm

    @ m:
    @ savage:

    dudes!

    80k? a brigade combat team with all support units may get to 4k on the VERY high end.


  25. 25 | April 17, 2010 6:25 pm

    coldwarrior @ 14:

    That’s what I’m thinking a brigade has no where near that many soldiers.


  26. coldwarrior
    26 | April 17, 2010 6:25 pm

    army source for these teams


  27. 27 | April 17, 2010 6:26 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    All I can share is the info I am given. I’m not an Army person (I was in the AF) so I really am not the expert at this.


  28. Sheepdogess
    28 | April 17, 2010 6:27 pm

    It really is nice to see all the old familiar “faces”. I love you guys/gals.


  29. coldwarrior
    29 | April 17, 2010 6:27 pm

    Beltfed wrote:

    coldwarrior @ 14:
    That’s what I’m thinking a brigade has no where near that many soldiers.

    80k is almost 6 divisions!


  30. m
    30 | April 17, 2010 6:27 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    k! lol

    /like I’d know that! oh shit. hey, don’t tell my cousin k. he’d stay on about that forEVAH, lol.


  31. song_and_dance_man
    31 | April 17, 2010 6:27 pm

    The 80k from Dollard just might be a typo.


  32. 32 | April 17, 2010 6:28 pm

    This is the quote of the ages in regards to the entire picture.

    The authoritarians are deliberately contriving the predicate incident by deliberate placing two honest actors in juxtaposition. It will be entirely ‘real’ yet produce their desired result / excuse, all the same.

    Just as ammonia and chlorine bleach are both effective and useful cleaning solutions, when you mix the two you get deadly chlorine gas.

    The manipulation, the falsehood, the man behind the wizard curtain, is in bringing these two otherwise honest actors onto the same stage at the same time. Put them in close agitated proximity andthenBLAMMO.

    PRovoke, prod, outrage, steal Americans futures, livelihoods and options, have them march en masse during a ‘long hot summer’, then throw in a military unit whose every training and recent experience is suppressing urban unrest and there can be only one result. And the result is the goal, for the Obamunists. They (specifically in their persons) didn’t create this tool. Their ideological Fellow Travelers in authoritarianism, working within the FEMA bureaucracy called for it. But now here’s this shiny new cudgel waiting close to hand for the Marxists from Chicago. THEY WILL USE IT. They will not hesitate to use it. ‘they won’. And they’re all about the letter of the rules when it suits them. Screw the honest intent of the regs, they only care what they can get away with. Federal troops on Federal Property, bust some heads.

    I give rayra the credit for that comment. He was in the USMC so he has cred.


  33. song_and_dance_man
    33 | April 17, 2010 6:29 pm

    When are you guys gonna do the blogradio thing again?


  34. 34 | April 17, 2010 6:30 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    ASAP, I liked that, it was fun.


  35. waldensianspirit
    35 | April 17, 2010 6:30 pm

    What do the States have to say about such scenarios?


  36. 36 | April 17, 2010 6:30 pm

    Here’s an endorsement Obama is doubtless proud of:

    Gadhafi urges support for ‘wise’ and ‘peaceful’ Obama
    By Agence France Presse (AFP)

    Saturday, April 17, 2010

    SIRTE, Libya: Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi has urged global support for the “peaceful” policies of “wise” US President Barack Obama in his pursuit of a world without nuclear weapons.

    “I appeal to everyone to give Obama time and to support his policies, as long as his program remains peaceful,” Gadhafi told a gathering late Thursday in a huge tent erected in the desert near the eastern coastal city of Sirte.

    YOu know you are doing a kick-ass job of protecting American intrests when the Dictator of Libya praises your efforts. We are so fucked.


  37. 37 | April 17, 2010 6:31 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    There will be news on it very soon!


  38. coldwarrior
    38 | April 17, 2010 6:31 pm

    real quick…there are about 10 active infantry divisions in the army and 8 in the reserves/guard…

    the 80k would be almost half of all total infantry…to get the number in a nice, clear picture


  39. vagabond trader
    39 | April 17, 2010 6:32 pm

    WaPo and the usual libral suspects didn’t like this since it was initiated by Booooosh.If Wee Weed pursues this I’m sure they’ll grow to love it.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/30/AR2008113002217.html


  40. 40 | April 17, 2010 6:32 pm

    @ Sheepdogess:

    {Sheepdogess}

    :-)


  41. coldwarrior
    41 | April 17, 2010 6:32 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    What do the States have to say about such scenarios?

    U.S. Army North is the Army component of U.S. Northern Command,” said Vogler, “and we’re charged with coordinating the federal military response in the land domain for domestic operations or disasters, to include CBRNE.”

    Vogler said that the response force is a scalable, dedicated force that is prepared to reinforce state and local responders when they request federal assistance. The force’s alignment under U.S. NORTHCOM shortens the line of command to increase readiness and responsiveness.

    from the article i linked to earlier


  42. citizen_q
    42 | April 17, 2010 6:32 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ mjazz:
    I don’t own any guns. Don’t even know anybody who owns any guns…

    All my guns fell overboard in a tragic boating accident on the Cheasepeke.

    Good evening all!


  43. 43 | April 17, 2010 6:33 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Gadhafi knows a 3rd Worlder when he sees on!


  44. 44 | April 17, 2010 6:33 pm

    Thats’s more than four divisions. As big as the tail is of our modern army, I don’t believe there are 80k dismounted trigger pullers in the whole force.

    Now would they use civil affairs and psyops as force mutilpliers whith local LE, sure. They could make a few examples hoping to bow all heads.

    Some say the Hutaree op was to regain the loyalty of LE and break the back of the Oath Keepers by driving a wedge between the current professionals and the civil prep minded.


  45. vagabond trader
    45 | April 17, 2010 6:33 pm

    @ Sheepdogess:

    :D :D


  46. 46 | April 17, 2010 6:33 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I’ll make a clarification….hang tight


  47. waldensianspirit
    47 | April 17, 2010 6:34 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Yea, but what States are authorizing this? Or will some now have to put legislation in place stopping it?


  48. coldwarrior
    48 | April 17, 2010 6:34 pm

    do the states have the capability to handle chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear events?

    no…


  49. lobo91
    49 | April 17, 2010 6:35 pm

    Don’t forget to look out for black helicopters overhead.

    Sorry, but this story is way overblown, out of context, and full of errors.

    80,000 troops…not even remotely within the realm of possibility.


  50. coldwarrior
    50 | April 17, 2010 6:35 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    is prepared to reinforce state and local responders when they request federal assistance.

    if the states ask, they can get help.


  51. 51 | April 17, 2010 6:36 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I updated it with a clarification.


  52. waldensianspirit
    52 | April 17, 2010 6:37 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Well then some States are safer than others


  53. 53 | April 17, 2010 6:37 pm

    Well, I’m off to play some cards. TTYL


  54. coldwarrior
    54 | April 17, 2010 6:37 pm

    sorry all, i’m not going down this rabbit hole, it looks like the black helicopters and fema camps that were the hot conspiracy topic under clinton.


  55. coldwarrior
    55 | April 17, 2010 6:38 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Well then some States are safer than others

    what are you trying to get at, i’m very confused.


  56. lobo91
    56 | April 17, 2010 6:39 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    do the states have the capability to handle chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear events?

    no…

    Actually, the first responders for such events do belong to the states.

    They’re called Civil Support Teams, and they’re composed of Title 32 AGR soldiers. I believe every state has at least one, now.


  57. coldwarrior
    57 | April 17, 2010 6:39 pm

    savage wrote:

    Well, I’m off to play some cards. TTYL

    good luck!


  58. 58 | April 17, 2010 6:40 pm

    I was too busy making money in the nineties, was it really that crazy with the conspiracy kooks.


  59. coldwarrior
    59 | April 17, 2010 6:40 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    do the states have the capability to handle chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear events?
    no…
    Actually, the first responders for such events do belong to the states.
    They’re called Civil Support Teams, and they’re composed of Title 32 AGR soldiers. I believe every state has at least one, now.

    thx for clarification.


  60. lobo91
    60 | April 17, 2010 6:40 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    sorry all, i’m not going down this rabbit hole, it looks like the black helicopters and fema camps that were the hot conspiracy topic under clinton.

    Does sound awfully familiar, doesn’t it?


  61. waldensianspirit
    61 | April 17, 2010 6:40 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    How much power does Obama have to move forward? Especially if quite a few States aren’t having it?


  62. coldwarrior
    62 | April 17, 2010 6:40 pm

    Scott Madsen wrote:

    I was too busy making money in the nineties, was it really that crazy with the conspiracy kooks.

    you missed some CLASSICS!


  63. mtc
    63 | April 17, 2010 6:40 pm

    It sounds scary but could be innocuous. Let’s hope so.


  64. citizen_q
    64 | April 17, 2010 6:41 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    I’ve been saying that the Democrats are acting like they’ll never have to face the voters again. Maybe that is the plan.

    I have been wondering the same thing. It would explain their supreme arrogance.


  65. lobo91
    65 | April 17, 2010 6:41 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I trained some of the first people to be assigned to those teams, several years ago.


  66. coldwarrior
    66 | April 17, 2010 6:41 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    How much power does Obama have to move forward? Especially if quite a few States aren’t having it?

    this prolly has very little to do with 0…this looks like stuff from W and the post 9/11 security plan


  67. coldwarrior
    67 | April 17, 2010 6:43 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I trained some of the first people to be assigned to those teams, several years ago.

    good stuff there, when was the plan for this put into action?


  68. coldwarrior
    68 | April 17, 2010 6:43 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    sorry all, i’m not going down this rabbit hole, it looks like the black helicopters and fema camps that were the hot conspiracy topic under clinton.
    Does sound awfully familiar, doesn’t it?

    here we go again!


  69. vagabond trader
    69 | April 17, 2010 6:43 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    See link in #39. Fake but accurate./


  70. snowcrash
    70 | April 17, 2010 6:43 pm

    Aren’t the Natnl Guard and urban riot police forces ready for any kind of event? Gotta go with coldwarrior on this one, more than a whiff of FEMA camps and black helo’s in this post.


  71. lobo91
    71 | April 17, 2010 6:43 pm

    @ Scott Madsen:

    I was too busy making money in the nineties, was it really that crazy with the conspiracy kooks.

    Yes, it was, but the internet was still pretty new then.

    The nuts spread their ideas via books and videotapes in those days.

    Google “clinton mena arkansas” some time…


  72. mfhorn
    72 | April 17, 2010 6:44 pm

    As little respect as I have for Obama, and while I agree that he’s a perfect example of the thugocracy of Chicago politics, I don’t believe there’s going to be a ‘manufactured’ crisis, enabling him to suspend elections, any more than I believed it when the left said the same thing about Bush.


  73. lobo91
    73 | April 17, 2010 6:45 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    this prolly has very little to do with 0…this looks like stuff from W and the post 9/11 security plan

    It is.

    The C-CMRF first stood up in 2008.


  74. waldensianspirit
    74 | April 17, 2010 6:45 pm

    The army confirmed during the nineties; there are no black helicopters….just dark…dark…dark….green ones.


  75. vagabond trader
    75 | April 17, 2010 6:46 pm

    Its not the military that concerns me.


  76. 76 | April 17, 2010 6:46 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Yeah this is a stretch, I agree.


  77. deleted
    77 | April 17, 2010 6:46 pm

    I always wondered, in fact, what would the protocol be if DC got vaporized, say, during a presidential speech to both houses of Congress. I imagine power would devolve to the several states and special elections would need to be called, a temporary capital set up, and so forth. And a lot of gummint checks wouldn’t get issued. It would certainly throw everything into a cocked hat as they say.

    Of course if Fort Stewart gets hit, there goes your Consequence Management Team America or whatever it is.


  78. coldwarrior
    78 | April 17, 2010 6:47 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    See link in #39. Fake but accurate./

    perfect! nice link.


  79. vagabond trader
    79 | April 17, 2010 6:47 pm

    @ mfhorn:

    Besides, why should he suspend elections when he can buy and or steal them?


  80. lobo91
    80 | April 17, 2010 6:47 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    The only black helicopters I’ve seen belong to Customs. They’re shiny black Black Hawks, with gold stripes.

    Kinda pretty, actually.


  81. vagabond trader
    81 | April 17, 2010 6:48 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    It was one of savages links topside. :D


  82. coldwarrior
    82 | April 17, 2010 6:49 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    The army confirmed during the nineties; there are no black helicopters….just dark…dark…dark….green ones.

    the new paint made the loons go ’round the twist’!


  83. mjazz
    83 | April 17, 2010 6:49 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Shouldn’t it have been dude/dudette?


  84. vagabond trader
    84 | April 17, 2010 6:50 pm

    @ mjazz:

    Last time I checked. :-)


  85. lobo91
    85 | April 17, 2010 6:51 pm

    @ deleted:

    I always wondered, in fact, what would the protocol be if DC got vaporized, say, during a presidential speech to both houses of Congress.

    That’s why you’ll never see every member of the Cabinet at such an event. There’s always 1 secretary who’s designated to be the “continuity of government” person, and who’s sent out of town someplace.

    That person would become president if DC got wiped out. The states would have to appoint or have special elections to replace their members of Congress.


  86. vagabond trader
    86 | April 17, 2010 6:52 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Gad, just when you think big gov can’t get any scarier. Cass Sunstein as potus. Yikes!


  87. mfhorn
    87 | April 17, 2010 6:53 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    Or have his opponents thrown off the ballot on a technicality?


  88. snork
    88 | April 17, 2010 6:54 pm

    savage wrote:

    Just as ammonia and chlorine bleach are both effective and useful cleaning solutions, when you mix the two you get deadly chlorine gas.

    Not exactly, but…


  89. lobo91
    89 | April 17, 2010 6:54 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    Sunnstein isn’t a member of the Cabinet. He’s one of those czars.

    It’s usually someone nobody’s ever heard of, like the Agriculture secretary. That way people don’t notice their absence when they watch the speech on TV.


  90. 90 | April 17, 2010 6:55 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    I’ve been saying that the Democrats are acting like they’ll never have to face the voters again. Maybe that is the plan.

    Right on IF. Billy boy Clinton has set the stage. Will there be armed military at voting places? To make sure dems win…If that happens Bill clinton might be right.


  91. coldwarrior
    91 | April 17, 2010 6:57 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ waldensianspirit:
    The only black helicopters I’ve seen belong to Customs. They’re shiny black Black Hawks, with gold stripes.
    Kinda pretty, actually.

    that sounds like a nice paint job.


  92. 92 | April 17, 2010 6:57 pm

    The people at the tea parties are not exactly what Barrick Obama needs to worry about.


  93. waldensianspirit
    93 | April 17, 2010 6:58 pm

    @ lobo91:
    @ coldwarrior:
    The military folks do have senses of humor. I searched but there are too many other hits. I remember an army spokesperson came out and said that with a straight face.


  94. 94 | April 17, 2010 6:58 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Yes I read that.


  95. 95 | April 17, 2010 6:58 pm

    @ mfhorn:

    I wouldn’t think it would be a manufactured event hatched out of the basement of the WH, but if cascading events presented the opportunity these people would milk it for all it was worth by nudging things their way.

    What the hell have they been doing legislatively for the last couple of generations but engineering society. If they think that November will be a new awakening against what they have constructed, they will be desperate. No Reichstags, just more and more asseration of extra constitutional authority until something breaks in their favor.

    We have our first real true believers in power, when have any of them ever played by the rules and walked away from the table without pulling a gun when the cards went against their gamble.

    I don’t know if this makes me a Dachshund going to ground behind Alice, but so be it.


  96. coldwarrior
    96 | April 17, 2010 6:59 pm

    mjazz wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Shouldn’t it have been dude/dudette?

    i was using the trans-gender, inclusive, plural version of the vernacular.

    :)


  97. snork
    97 | April 17, 2010 7:00 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    sorry all, i’m not going down this rabbit hole, it looks like the black helicopters and fema camps that were the hot conspiracy topic under clinton.

    And the concentration camps that Bush was building in North Carolina?


  98. snork
    98 | April 17, 2010 7:01 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    sorry all, i’m not going down this rabbit hole

    Not an iceweasel?


  99. coldwarrior
    99 | April 17, 2010 7:01 pm

    @ Scott Madsen:

    there is no reason not to be very attentive and questioning and focused of what fedgov is up to at all times…


  100. lobo91
    100 | April 17, 2010 7:02 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    here we go again!

    I’ve seen posts on this topic on other blogs, and I was really hoping it wouldn’t show up here.

    This stuff is being blown way out of proportion, and taken out of context.

    All they did was look at what’s happened in past disaster situations, and how they end up having to scramble to yank some unit out of whatever training they’re doing and send them with whatever equipment they happen to have to go help. Then someone decided that maybe we should designate a unit to be on call for this kind of support, and give them appropriate training and equipment to use.

    This is about as sinister as the fact that every town in America has a fire department. Doesn’t mean they’re planning to burn down your house to give themselves something to do.


  101. snork
    101 | April 17, 2010 7:03 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    The army confirmed during the nineties; there are no black helicopters….just dark…dark…dark….green ones.

    See? RACISM!!!


  102. citizen_q
    102 | April 17, 2010 7:03 pm

    Grimcargo wrote:

    The people at the tea parties are not exactly what Barrick Obama needs to worry about.

    No, but the over the top deamonization of them sure looks like they are being set-up to be the boogie man for something.


  103. 103 | April 17, 2010 7:04 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    here we go again!
    I’ve seen posts on this topic on other blogs, and I was really hoping it wouldn’t show up here.
    This stuff is being blown way out of proportion, and taken out of context.
    All they did was look at what’s happened in past disaster situations, and how they end up having to scramble to yank some unit out of whatever training they’re doing and send them with whatever equipment they happen to have to go help. Then someone decided that maybe we should designate a unit to be on call for this kind of support, and give them appropriate training and equipment to use.
    This is about as sinister as the fact that every town in America has a fire department. Doesn’t mean they’re planning to burn down your house to give themselves something to do.

    But that’s what happens when the President proves to be a sneaky pos.There’s no faith in anything.


  104. lobo91
    104 | April 17, 2010 7:06 pm

    @ Scott Madsen:

    I wouldn’t think it would be a manufactured event hatched out of the basement of the WH, but if cascading events presented the opportunity these people would milk it for all it was worth by nudging things their way.

    Oh, I have no doubt that they’d do that. This administration’s motto is “never let a crisis go to waste,” after all.

    But I don’t think they’re planning to cart us all off to concentration camps, however.

    If I’m wrong, I’ll be the first to admit it. Of course, I’ll probably be in one of those camps with you guys…


  105. snowcrash
    105 | April 17, 2010 7:07 pm

    @ lobo91:
    At least we aren’t lapping it up like there is no tomorrow. Savage posted it and then bailed out. LOL


  106. coldwarrior
    106 | April 17, 2010 7:08 pm

    snork wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    sorry all, i’m not going down this rabbit hole
    Not an iceweasel?

    *shivers with loathing*


  107. coldwarrior
    107 | April 17, 2010 7:08 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    here we go again!
    I’ve seen posts on this topic on other blogs, and I was really hoping it wouldn’t show up here.
    This stuff is being blown way out of proportion, and taken out of context.
    All they did was look at what’s happened in past disaster situations, and how they end up having to scramble to yank some unit out of whatever training they’re doing and send them with whatever equipment they happen to have to go help. Then someone decided that maybe we should designate a unit to be on call for this kind of support, and give them appropriate training and equipment to use.
    This is about as sinister as the fact that every town in America has a fire department. Doesn’t mean they’re planning to burn down your house to give themselves something to do.

    bingo!


  108. lobo91
    108 | April 17, 2010 7:09 pm

    snowcrash wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    At least we aren’t lapping it up like there is no tomorrow. Savage posted it and then bailed out. LOL

    So I noticed.

    I just got home from Ft Carson to see this. Spent the day running the “Humvee on a spit” for our unit.

    Lots of fun. For me.


  109. coldwarrior
    109 | April 17, 2010 7:09 pm

    snork wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    The army confirmed during the nineties; there are no black helicopters….just dark…dark…dark….green ones.
    See? RACISM!!!

    :lol:


  110. snowcrash
    110 | April 17, 2010 7:12 pm

    @ lobo91:
    What is running a Humvee on a spit? I know Humvee’s are but the rest of it is ??


  111. vagabond trader
    111 | April 17, 2010 7:12 pm

    @ lobo91:

    This is about as sinister as the fact that every town in America has a fire department. Doesn’t mean they’re planning to burn down your house to give themselves something to do.

    Could tell you some stories about firefighters. :mrgreen:


  112. lobo91
    112 | April 17, 2010 7:12 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I’m pretty sure the on-call units have changed by now, by the way.

    This isn’t a permanent assignment. It rotates among units that are back at their home station for 12 months at a time.

    I think they tag one Brigade Combat Team, one Aviation Brigade, and one Medical Brigade for each rotation.


  113. coldwarrior
    113 | April 17, 2010 7:14 pm

    @ lobo91:

    that seems about right, throw some extra commo and transport in for good measure…


  114. lobo91
    114 | April 17, 2010 7:14 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    Could tell you some stories about firefighters

    Yeah, I’m sure. I know that there are firefighters who are arsonists, but it’s not part of the job description.


  115. vagabond trader
    115 | April 17, 2010 7:16 pm

    @ lobo91:

    There was a volunteer company in my husbands city that they wouldn’t call for backup. Too many members had been involved in playing with matches.


  116. lobo91
    116 | April 17, 2010 7:17 pm

    snowcrash wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    What is running a Humvee on a spit? I know Humvee’s are but the rest of it is ??

    Officially, it’s called the HMMWV Egress Assistance Trainer.

    Here’s a video that shows it:


  117. song_and_dance_man
    117 | April 17, 2010 7:17 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Yeah, I’m sure. I know that there are firefighters who are arsonists, but it’s not part of the job description.

    True story. When I was living in Victorville, CA (high desert 60 north of LA) the Fire Captain was arrested. His crime? He would take hallucinogenics then set fires to watch them.


  118. coldwarrior
    118 | April 17, 2010 7:19 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    Yeah, I’m sure. I know that there are firefighters who are arsonists, but it’s not part of the job description.

    True story. When I was living in Victorville, CA (high desert 60 north of LA) the Fire Captain was arrested. His crime? He would take hallucinogenics then set fires to watch them.

    that’s a pretty dangerous trip toy.


  119. lobo91
    119 | April 17, 2010 7:22 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    If I lived in Victorville, I might be tempted to do that…

    I was stationed at Ft Irwin for a year.


  120. song_and_dance_man
    120 | April 17, 2010 7:22 pm

    @ lobo91:

    That’s interesting, but wouldn’t it make more sense to have the trainer on two axis gimbals since the Hummer would not only rock from side to side but also back to front as it goes up and down hills?


  121. vagabond trader
    121 | April 17, 2010 7:23 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    Its a psych-sexual thing,usually males. Arson is one of the most heinous and difficult crimes to prove. There was an infamous arson case in Cali involving a serial killer who was a fire inspector. Forgot his name,hes doing life.


  122. citizen_q
    122 | April 17, 2010 7:25 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Wow! That is an E-ticket ride!


  123. vagabond trader
    123 | April 17, 2010 7:26 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Were you the spitter or the spittee?


  124. lobo91
    124 | April 17, 2010 7:26 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    It’s not meant to be a driving simulator. It’s just to practice getting out of one if it overturns.

    Not as easy as you might think, especially when you’re wearing all that gear. Quite a few people died in Iraq because they weren’t able to escape from overturned vehicles. Hence the requirement for the training.


  125. snowcrash
    125 | April 17, 2010 7:27 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Hilarious, (but important training) bet you did have fun.


  126. lobo91
    126 | April 17, 2010 7:28 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    I was running it. I spent a day at Ft Carson a couple weeks ago learning how it works, and riding it myself.

    Nobody threw up today, so that was good…


  127. lobo91
    127 | April 17, 2010 7:29 pm

    @ snowcrash:

    It’s even more fun if you turn off the lights.


  128. coldwarrior
    128 | April 17, 2010 7:29 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ snowcrash:
    It’s even more fun if you turn off the lights.

    and what isnt?

    :lol:


  129. song_and_dance_man
    129 | April 17, 2010 7:30 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    There was an inmate that we were detaining that told me before he got arrested he was a firefighter. Later I looked up his crime. Arson.

    I make it a practice to check the charges of our detainees for safety reasons. The ones with assault on Peace Officers or PO’s are the ones I want to ID a dangerous.


  130. 130 | April 17, 2010 7:30 pm

    @ lobo91:
    ha! some of those guys were having way too much fun! i’ll ask my nephews if they’ve done “humvee on a spit training” yet! lol they are marines.


  131. lobo91
    131 | April 17, 2010 7:31 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    @ snowcrash:
    It’s even more fun if you turn off the lights.
    and what isnt?

    I only have vague memories of anything like that…


  132. song_and_dance_man
    132 | April 17, 2010 7:31 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Ah. I didn’t watch the whole thing, but now it makes sense because they left the box upside down.


  133. snork
    133 | April 17, 2010 7:31 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    True story. When I was living in Victorville, CA (high desert 60 north of LA) the Fire Captain was arrested. His crime? He would take hallucinogenics then set fires to watch them.

    California. Land of Teh Johnson. Coincidence?


  134. Sheepdogess
    134 | April 17, 2010 7:34 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    I have a glue gun and a caulk gun. Do they count?


  135. vagabond trader
    135 | April 17, 2010 7:34 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Yuh,that is a barf inducing ride. :evil:


  136. song_and_dance_man
    136 | April 17, 2010 7:34 pm

    snork wrote:

    California. Land of Teh Johnson. Coincidence?

    As the old joke goes – Los Angeles is like a bowl of cereal. Nuts, fruits and flakes.


  137. snork
    137 | April 17, 2010 7:34 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Arson is one of the most heinous and difficult crimes to prove.

    For anyone with reasonable intelligence. For the dodos who get caught, it’s easy to prove. Pouring gasoline all over the side of the building leaves a signature.
    A reasonably clever electrician could set one up that even Chuck Johnson, Race Detective could never figure out.


  138. lobo91
    138 | April 17, 2010 7:35 pm

    @ Kirly:

    I would imagine that they have. It’s mandatory in the Army. The Marines use the same vehicles, so I’m sure they do it too.

    It didn’t become a problem until they started adding all that armor and a big protected turret to them. The basic HMMWV is damn near impossible to roll, under normal conditions.

    I spent some time teaching drivers training to new privates, in both HMMWVs and the old M-151 jeeps. I hated riding in a jeep with a student driver. We rolled them all the time.


  139. song_and_dance_man
    139 | April 17, 2010 7:36 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    ha! some of those guys were having way too much fun!

    Yeah- Did you hear the one guy say, ‘I want my mommy.’


  140. m
    140 | April 17, 2010 7:36 pm

    @ snowcrash:

    I did! But shoot – I was just tripping that Savage had an actual post and not a video, lol ~:D


  141. lobo91
    141 | April 17, 2010 7:38 pm

    @ snork:

    For anyone with reasonable intelligence. For the dodos who get caught, it’s easy to prove.

    Of course, that’s true of most crimes, even murder. Unless you leave fingerprints or DNA, if you kill a truly random person on the street someplace, you’ll probably never get caught (unless you talk about it).


  142. coldwarrior
    142 | April 17, 2010 7:39 pm

    Santorum assails Obama at Westmoreland County Tea Party
    Saturday, April 17, 2010
    Bill Schackner, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

    Saying President Barack Obama has “assaulted the soul of America,” former U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum urged a Tea Party rally in Westmoreland County today to be a force in this fall’s election.

    “The future of our country is at stake,” he said.

    Mr. Santorum was among a handful of speakers who addressed a crowd of about 2,500 people, many on lawn chairs, who gathered on the runway at Greensburg-Jeannette Regional Airport. The event was organized by the Southwest Pennsylvania Tea Party.

    The former senator said there’s more at stake than too much government and too much spending. President Obama is out to change what Americans aspire to, said Mr. Santorum, whose introduction was greated by some people chanting “2012,” urging him to run for president then.

    He drew an analogy to the greatest generation and how they were reluctantly drawn into World War Ii

    “Now it’s a different kind of war. Instead of Japanese dropping a bomb on Pearl Harbor, Barack Obama has assaulted the soul of America,” he said, “and it’s our watch.”

    Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10107/1051337-455.stm#ixzz0lP69xOaB


  143. 143 | April 17, 2010 7:39 pm

    @ snowcrash:

    I think he’s embarrassed!

    :lol:


  144. lobo91
    144 | April 17, 2010 7:40 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    There are microphones and cameras inside, so you can see and hear what’s going on, and tell if someone gets hurt.


  145. song_and_dance_man
    145 | April 17, 2010 7:42 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ snowcrash:
    I think he’s embarrassed!

    I don’t know about that. savage embarrassed sounds like an oxymoron.

    ;-)


  146. 146 | April 17, 2010 7:42 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    President Obama is out to change what Americans aspire to, said Mr. Santorum, whose introduction was greated by some people chanting “2012,” urging him to run for president then.

    I think Santorum would be a disaster. Obama would relish a fight with him.


  147. vagabond trader
    147 | April 17, 2010 7:42 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I want my Mom, lol. :lol:


  148. song_and_dance_man
    148 | April 17, 2010 7:43 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Do most of the guys/gals pass the test?


  149. coldwarrior
    149 | April 17, 2010 7:43 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    President Obama is out to change what Americans aspire to, said Mr. Santorum, whose introduction was greated by some people chanting “2012,” urging him to run for president then.
    I think Santorum would be a disaster. Obama would relish a fight with him.

    he isnt going to run…but i do like his words.


  150. vagabond trader
    150 | April 17, 2010 7:44 pm

    Unreal. The WH press corpse is aggrieved but they continue to fellate Obowma.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0410/35944.html


  151. Sheepdogess
    151 | April 17, 2010 7:47 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    He/they know what Obama is. What I don’t understand is why he/they just won’t just say it…Obama’s a communist. The folks need to hear it… repeatedly. They don’t understand. It needs to be said… over and over and over again.


  152. lobo91
    152 | April 17, 2010 7:49 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    It’s not really a pass/fail thing. There’s no set time you have to do it in or anything.

    You just have to do it.

    They’re getting ready to start using one for the MRAP vehicles, too. They have the same problems.

    So do Strykers, but you’re basically just screwed if you’re standing in the hatch on one of those and it rolls, unless you manage to pull yourself inside. Several people have drowned when they ended up upside down in canals or rivers in Iraq.


  153. song_and_dance_man
    153 | April 17, 2010 7:50 pm

    Sheepdogess wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    He/they know what Obama is. What I don’t understand is why he/they just won’t just say it…Obama’s a communist. The folks need to hear it… repeatedly. They don’t understand. It needs to be said… over and over and over again.

    His own side knows what he is, but they suppress the truth. But not all.


  154. 154 | April 17, 2010 7:52 pm

    I wasn’t in PA for Santorum’s term. I like the fact that he upsets the right people (don’t google his name). He would never work a a Presidential candidate, too many frothing leftists dopes who would arise in all of their don’t tell me what to do with my body fury and sway the soft middle by aligning against his declared faith and beliefs’

    Now replacing Steele after the midterms with him or someone with his passion is another question entirely.


  155. citizen_q
    155 | April 17, 2010 7:53 pm

    Sheepdogess wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    He/they know what Obama is. What I don’t understand is why he/they just won’t just say it…Obama’s a communist. The folks need to hear it… repeatedly. They don’t understand. It needs to be said… over and over and over again.

    Apparently the truth is the first thing one must sacrifice to become a successful journalist, rapidly followed by one’s spine and objectivity.


  156. 156 | April 17, 2010 7:58 pm

    The Left was famous for spinning conspiracy theories like this during the GWB years, and a lot were spawned during Clinton’s terms, so this may be of little consequence.

    But given the stated ideals and agenda of Barry, Pelosi, and Reid this can’t be dismissed as moonbeams out of hand.


  157. 157 | April 17, 2010 7:58 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    The lines are drawing up. Things are more polarized now than they were in 1994, or at least they seem to be to me.


  158. 158 | April 17, 2010 8:01 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    The lines are drawing up. Things are more polarized now than they were in 1994, or at least they seem to be to me.

    What I have read about the climate prior to the Civil War we seem to be replaying the heightened tensions these days, if things are not even worse than then.


  159. vagabond trader
    159 | April 17, 2010 8:02 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Hell yeah. These are flat out nanny state total control freaks.As we’ve said before, if enough Americans are snagged into the dependency web we may never get untangled. It is crucial for us to win but unfortunately I’m not feeling that sentiment from many R “leaders.”


  160. 160 | April 17, 2010 8:03 pm

    Add on the appearance that OathKeepers has stepped back from standing up for principles, things look mighty dicey.


  161. Sheepdogess
    161 | April 17, 2010 8:03 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    I belive when the folks hear the words “socialism” it is almost always coupled with the words “European socialism”, i.e. France and Britain, but in reality what Obama is about is “Soviet style” communism. Billy Ayers style communism, KATWCBRE.


  162. coldwarrior
    162 | April 17, 2010 8:06 pm

    @ Scott Madsen:

    he pissed off the establishment gop


  163. Empire1
    163 | April 17, 2010 8:06 pm

    Kind of off topic, but it just struck me, and I wanna catch IF if possible.

    Hey, Iron Fist — are you still around? I’ve got a thread idea for you that I, at least, would love to see.


  164. coldwarrior
    164 | April 17, 2010 8:07 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    The lines are drawing up. Things are more polarized now than they were in 1994, or at least they seem to be to me.

    this is going to be one hell of a ride!


  165. song_and_dance_man
    165 | April 17, 2010 8:08 pm

    @ Sheepdogess:

    And I think you are right about that.


  166. vagabond trader
    166 | April 17, 2010 8:08 pm

    @ Sheepdogess:

    I’ve always called him a commie because that is what he grew up with by his own admission.


  167. Sheepdogess
    167 | April 17, 2010 8:08 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    If these “Journalists” had to get a job outside of “Journalism”, they would be unemployable, not even capable of collecting trash. I guess one does one one must do to survive. When the SHTF I wouldn’t want to be them, for any amount of money or “prestige”.


  168. vagabond trader
    168 | April 17, 2010 8:09 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    They’ve gone soft?


  169. 169 | April 17, 2010 8:10 pm

    @ Empire1:

    Hey, I’m here. What do you want to see?


  170. Sheepdogess
    170 | April 17, 2010 8:10 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    Linky?


  171. rain of lead
    171 | April 17, 2010 8:10 pm

    well this looks to be a soon dead thread but anyhoo, have ya’ll seen zombies report from the tea party in s.f.?
    twas funny as hell

    Crashing the Crashers: Tea Party Infiltrators Outmaneuvered in S.F.


  172. Sheepdogess
    172 | April 17, 2010 8:11 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    Their families were probably threatened.


  173. 173 | April 17, 2010 8:12 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    @ Scott Madsen:

    He should lead the RNC.


  174. vagabond trader
    174 | April 17, 2010 8:13 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    Man these lefturds are even dumber than previously believed.The absolute dregs and embarassingly irrelevant.


  175. snork
    175 | April 17, 2010 8:13 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:

    The lines are drawing up. Things are more polarized now than they were in 1994, or at least they seem to be to me.

    Things are more polarized than 1968. Does this mean we’re about to get Nixon’s ghost?


  176. Empire1
    176 | April 17, 2010 8:16 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Empire1:
    Hey, I’m here. What do you want to see?

    I’d like for all us oldpharts to be able to take advantage of your martial arts expertise for self-defense, if you have any suggestions to offer. For instance, I carry a purse, and may have to use a cane in the not too distant future. Both are weapons-capable, but thre have to be more efficient ways to use them than as a bludgeon or weak ball-bat. I’m sure you could provide some good advice, if you have the time.


  177. Sheepdogess
    177 | April 17, 2010 8:17 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    Great stuff and thank you Zombie.


  178. rain of lead
    178 | April 17, 2010 8:20 pm

    @ Empire1:

    hey fist! second that!
    also what would be a good form of self defense training be for a young
    (8yr) girl to start learning


  179. rain of lead
    179 | April 17, 2010 8:22 pm

    @ Sheepdogess:

    welcome sheepdogess
    who were you at the other place if ya don’t mind me askin
    if ya don’t want to say that’s cool


  180. 180 | April 17, 2010 8:22 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    That’s why people need to get in locally at the district level.

    I have been invited to the local COC lead County Republican meetings. They are primarily concerned with the election of Township Supers and local money issues. This is where the seed bed exists for delegates though.

    The only way I would participate is to walk into the monthly meeting with a dozen or more other RINO hunters and start bending ears towards larger issues. It is something I am considering taking a lead on with a Tea Party family on mt street.


  181. 181 | April 17, 2010 8:23 pm

    Sheepdogess wrote:

    Linky?

    Ask, and YE shalt receive:

    Oath Keepers withdraws from Restore the Constitution Open Carry Rally


  182. vagabond trader
    182 | April 17, 2010 8:28 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    So they’re going into the teachable moment business. Swell.//


  183. 183 | April 17, 2010 8:40 pm

    Sheepdogess wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    If these “Journalists” had to get a job outside of “Journalism”, they would be unemployable, not even capable of collecting trash. I guess one does one one must do to survive. When the SHTF I wouldn’t want to be them, for any amount of money or “prestige”.

    I recall a report of a now homeless former NYslimes propagandist.


  184. Sheepdogess
    184 | April 17, 2010 8:57 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    Thank you.


  185. Sheepdogess
    185 | April 17, 2010 8:58 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    LGF – Sheepdogess


  186. 186 | April 17, 2010 9:01 pm

    @ Empire1:

    A cane is an excellent weapon. It can be used quite effectively to do about anything that you would use a stick for, and that is way more than as a weak ball bat (a ball bat isn’t as good a weapon as you might think, because it is unbalanced). The problem is, there isn’t much I can do over the internet to teach you the uses of it. Some things you have to see, and other things you have to feel to understand. A cane is one of the most effective non-”weapon” weapons you can carry. A couple of others I can recommend are a small flashlight and a pen. This is the flashlight I have for that purpose. I paid about $80 for mine at a gun show. The E2D LED Defender is a little smaller, but it is also more expensive. Other companies than surefire make similar tools. You can use these like you would a kobutan, to strike to vulnerable areas such as the eyes, throat, and groin.

    Another weapon that I have advocated for ages is the humble pen. This is especially good for women. Stick the pen in a rapist’s body wall, heel-palm smash it to drive it deep, then run. He’ll be too busy digging the pen out of his guts to chase you down. What is cool is that the pen body is slick, and there is a tightening of the muscle when it is traumatized, so they will have a lot of trouble pulling this thing out of their intestines. This can kill them if they don’t seek medical attention. Cool, cool, cool. Dead is good :mrgreen: All this is with just an ordinary pen, but there has appeared on the market a number of “pens” that are specifically made to be weapons. I haven’t had the oppertunity to inspect all of them, but I like the looks of the Benchmade 1100 series. They are pricey, but you can find other manufacturers who offer similar products for more reasonable prices. These are weapons in pen form. You’ll get away with carrying a flashlight or a pen, but these I am not so sure of, especially if you commit mayhem on some poor unfortunate crack head who was trying to do his job as a crack head and relieve you of his wallet. In some jurisdictions crack heads are a protected species, so you have to use caution.

    I’d love to be able to give a seminar on improvised weapons, but it is kind of hard to do over the internet. My best advice would be to ask around at local karate schools, and see if someone could give you pointers. If you belong to a church group or other organization, you might could get a seminar at no cost just for the asking. It is advertisement for the school and information for you.


  187. 188 | April 17, 2010 9:13 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    At that age, you can’t teach them real martial arts. What you can do is introduce them to martial arts concepts, the very basics, and provide a fun environment for them to get good excercize in. Almost any style is good for this (you probably want to stay away from filipino martial arts for kids. I highly recommend them for adults, though). The thing to look for in a karate instructor for kids is pretty much what you would look for in a tennis coach or anything else. That said, I watched a kid grow up in karate at my dojo. He started when he was four and by the time he was old enough to start learning real karate he had the maturity and self-dicipline to teach pretty much everything in our arsenal. Most kids aren’t going to do that. They’ll train 3-6 months and then be on to the next thing. Finding a school that they enjoy learning from is mor eimportant at that age than finding the school with the deadliest technique.


  188. 189 | April 18, 2010 2:20 am

    I take news like this with a grain of salt, but given the fact that in only a year Obama has managed to stick his hands into and dismantle many pieces of our country that were built while he was probably experimenting with illegal substance earlier in his life. It makes a sane person step back and start to wonder about these news stories that seem far out.

    When BO was elected we already were told the order in which he’d deconstruct the country and so far he has stayed the course as it were. Let’s face it, Obama is closer to Hussein than Barry from what we’ve seen just a year in, it’s a new shock to the system almost every day, so news like this that I wish I could completely write off, and probably immediately would under the previous presidents, I have a hard time under Obama.


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