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18 April 1942 – The Doolittle Raid

by Bunk X ( 95 Comments › )
Filed under History, Military, World War II at April 18th, 2010 - 5:30 pm

December 31, 2009 — Jonna Doolittle Hoppes speaks about her Grandfather, General Jimmy Doolittle from her new book “Calculated Risk” and the importance of recording history for future generations at the Historic Flight Foundation’s “B-25 Grumpy Welcome Reception”. This clip includes original film footage of the crews on the historic “Doolittle Raid” of WWII, which proved to the US and the Japanese Empire that America could and would strike back.

There’s obviously more to the story than we’re able to present here. The anniversary of the Doolittle Raid deserves recognition, as it was not only unimaginably dangerous and ballsy, but very necessary to send a message to Japan, as well as to the American public. It was created, orchestrated and accomplished in a little over 4 months after the unwarranted attack on Pearl Harbor.

Military Magazine recently published a first person account of a pilot who volunteered for the mission without knowing what it was. The mission wasn’t revealed until the modified bombers had been loaded onto the U.S.S. Hornet and the Hornet was at sea. Of the pilots who volunteered, all were given opportunities to decide for themselves whether they wanted to go on, without reprimand or dishonor, and not one of them sat down.

www.milmag.com doesn’t have the story on line yet, but it’s a must read.

[Crossposted here.]

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95 Responses to “18 April 1942 – The Doolittle Raid”
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  1. 1 | April 18, 2010 5:51 pm

    Very interesting.


  2. coldwarrior
    2 | April 18, 2010 5:55 pm

    balls, pure balls.


  3. bar
    3 | April 18, 2010 5:57 pm

    The Doolittle raid is great history.
    Also on this day in 1943 one year after the Doolittle raid, “Operation Peacock” was a success. The Japanese code had been broken. A Mitsubishi bomber carrying Admiral Yamamoto was intercepted by 16 P-38′s – sending Yamamoto to his death.


  4. 4 | April 18, 2010 5:58 pm

    @ bar:

    That was huge.


  5. coldwarrior
    5 | April 18, 2010 5:58 pm

    so its two very important events in the pacific theater today in history!


  6. bar
    6 | April 18, 2010 5:59 pm

    @ Rodan:
    It took a lot of balls, like the Doolittle raid.


  7. bar
    7 | April 18, 2010 6:01 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Funny, April 18, 1943 was a Sunday…..
    Now I feel like shooting some Japs down.
    /


  8. Speranza
    8 | April 18, 2010 6:17 pm

    Several pilots crash landed in Japanese occupied China and were executed as “war criminals” in Japan by the Tojo clique.


  9. 9 | April 18, 2010 6:18 pm

    Col. Doolittle received the Medal of Honor for his leadership of the raid.


  10. 10 | April 18, 2010 6:19 pm


  11. Speranza
    11 | April 18, 2010 6:23 pm

    Only around 16 tons of bombs were dropped on Tokyo that day – a pittance compared to what would be dropped a couple of years later – however it was a tremendous morale boost for the American public.


  12. Speranza
    12 | April 18, 2010 6:25 pm

    I guess you culd call the killing of Admiral Yamamoto a “targeted Assassination” – now the question is “Was it proportionate to the original provocation”? /sarcasm.


  13. 13 | April 18, 2010 6:27 pm

    bar wrote:

    The Doolittle raid is great history.
    Also on this day in 1943 one year after the Doolittle raid, “Operation Peacock” was a success. The Japanese code had been broken. A Mitsubishi bomber carrying Admiral Yamamoto was intercepted by 16 P-38’s – sending Yamamoto to his death.

    There is a fascinating (but difficult) book called “The Code Breakers” by David Kahn. Contains not only the history of cryptology but the results throughout history. The deciphering of the Japanese “Purple” codes is fascinating. There is an excellent abridged version that omits some of the tedium of the mathematics involved, yet retains enough detail for a basic understanding of the operations. Had we not broken the Japanese codes, Midway would likely have been lost and the outcome of the war in the Pacific would have been very different.


  14. 14 | April 18, 2010 6:28 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Only around 16 tons of bombs were dropped on Tokyo that day – a pittance compared to what would be dropped a couple of years later – however it was a tremendous morale boost for the American public.

    AND, just as important, the Emperor lost face.


  15. RIX
    15 | April 18, 2010 6:29 pm

    Speranza
    11 | April 18, 2010 18:23
    however it was a tremendous morale boos for the American public

    .
    And that was the main point. The American people were shocked that U.S Territory could be penetrated & the Pacific Fleet could be so rocked.
    Even though militarily it was not that significant, psychologically it was huge.


  16. snork
    16 | April 18, 2010 6:34 pm

    Speaking of Doolittle…

    I have a theory for why the congress and POTUS are going full blast against what the polls are telling them the public wants. It’s become received wisdom among the chattering class that the people are angry at the “do nothing” congress. This is just one of these elite legends that feed off of themselves. Frankly, I’d love to limit congress to two weeks a year, and require them to go home to their home offices for the other 50. And that doesn’t mean vacation, that means keeping office hours, so they can take appointments from constituents.

    But they’ve managed to convince themselves that we’re all upset that they weren’t doing anything, and from there, it’s easy to make the leap that once you get past some temporary head winds, the public will love you for “doing something”.

    How many times have you heard the MSM moaning about the “do nothing congress”? Now how many times have you heard real, actual people complaining about it?

    I think they really honestly expect that they’re going to get love for this rape. They believe it, because that’s the received wisdom that’s been rattling around the beltway for decades. They think we’re upset at the “do nothing congress”. I wish we had a “do nothing congress”.


  17. huckfunn
    17 | April 18, 2010 6:39 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    I guess you culd call the killing of Admiral Yamamoto a “targeted Assassination” – now the question is “Was it proportionate to the original provocation”? /sarcasm.

    Last week there was a segment of World at War that showed various Japanese propaganda newsreels from the war years. One of the newsreels was of Yamamoto’s state funeral. There was a horse drawn caisson which was carrying a little shinto styled box. I guess they never found his carcass.

    Also in history on this date in 1775 Paul Revere & William Dawes warn “British are coming!” and in 1783 fighting ceases in the American Revolution, eight years to the day since it began. How ’bout them apples!


  18. RIX
    18 | April 18, 2010 6:43 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    Last week there was a segment of World at War that showed various Japanese propaganda newsreels from the war years

    Is PBS showing it again?


  19. 19 | April 18, 2010 6:47 pm

    @ Bunk X:

    It sent a message to the Japs that their homeland wasn’t safe.


  20. huckfunn
    20 | April 18, 2010 6:48 pm

    @ RIX:
    I’ve been getting on either the History Channel or the Military Channel. I can’t remember which.


  21. 21 | April 18, 2010 6:48 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    didn’t know that.


  22. RIX
    22 | April 18, 2010 6:49 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Bunk X:
    It sent a message to the Japs that their homeland wasn’t safe.
    </blockquote

    >

    It did , but they still had the Emperor as a deity.
    MacArthur made him disavow his divinity.


  23. RIX
    23 | April 18, 2010 6:51 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    @ RIX:
    I’ve been getting on either the History Channel or the Military Channel. I can’t remember which.

    Thank you, I’m going to look for it. It is a great series.


  24. huckfunn
    24 | April 18, 2010 6:54 pm

    @ RIX:
    @ Rodan:
    Here it is. The Military Channel


  25. song_and_dance_man
    25 | April 18, 2010 7:02 pm

    What I find surprising is most of the 16 Bombers crashed in China.


  26. RIX
    26 | April 18, 2010 7:03 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    Thanks again


  27. Guggi
    27 | April 18, 2010 7:06 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    What I find surprising is most of the 16 Bombers crashed in China.

    And that the Soviets interned one crew who landed in their territory for more than one year and up to 250,000 Chinese were killed by Japanese retaliatory measures.


  28. 28 | April 18, 2010 7:07 pm

    @ snork:

    I think we’d be better off if there was one house of congress that did nothing but repeal laws. Instead of “do-nothing”, undo.


  29. huckfunn
    29 | April 18, 2010 7:11 pm

    @ RIX:
    You’re welcome. The Military Channel has also been doing a series on WWI which is the period of history that really fascinates me the most. I’ve always known that at the end of the war, the Kaiser abdicated to Holland, but I was unaware of the circumstances. Yesterday’s segment showed that as both the eastern and western fronts collapsed in 1918, revolution hit the streets in Berlin. The Kaiser ordered the army to fire on the people and was told by the general staff “we don’t work for you any more”. That’s when he fleux de coupe.


  30. 30 | April 18, 2010 7:12 pm

    RIX wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:
    @ RIX:
    I’ve been getting on either the History Channel or the Military Channel. I can’t remember which.

    Thank you, I’m going to look for it. It is a great series.

    The series was released on DVD with some very good extras. 11 DVDs, worth the price.


  31. RIX
    31 | April 18, 2010 7:15 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    I think that you’ll find this interesting. I was at a coffee last week where kevin McCarthy , Congressman from CA & Republican Congressional
    Campaign Chairman spoke.
    In the Q&A he said that if they retake the House , the plan is to defund ObamaCare.


  32. RIX
    32 | April 18, 2010 7:17 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans
    30 | April 18, 2010 19:12
    The series was released on DVD with some very good extras. 11 DVDs, worth the price

    .

    I do think that I will pick it up. Can you get it through Blockbuster?


  33. Truck Monkey
    33 | April 18, 2010 7:17 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    What I find surprising is most of the 16 Bombers crashed in China.

    They crashed in China as opposed to crashing in the Pacific. Better chance at survival.


  34. 34 | April 18, 2010 7:19 pm

    @ RIX:

    Good. Starve the monster before it eats us…


  35. 35 | April 18, 2010 7:21 pm

    @ RIX #31:

    …and when Obama vetoes that, they should defund Air Force 1, and make him fly commercial.


  36. 36 | April 18, 2010 7:21 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ snork:
    I think we’d be better off if there was one house of congress that did nothing but repeal laws. Instead of “do-nothing”, undo.

    One of the stated original intents of the separation of powers, coupled with the hardships of governing, was to make it difficult to pass legislation.

    Now we have an entrenched political class that the antipodes of the constitutional ideals.


  37. song_and_dance_man
    37 | April 18, 2010 7:22 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Yeah, I was reading the same Wiki page linked in the post. The interned in Russia escaped through Iran, and John Birch (yep the one whose name is now on the Society) assisted the soldiers in China.


  38. 38 | April 18, 2010 7:23 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    WWI is very fascinating.


  39. RIX
    39 | April 18, 2010 7:23 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Good. Starve the monster before it eats us…

    He also said the all of the AG suits based on the Tenth Amendment have legs. That would knock down the mandatory provsion , but they still need to defund the thing


  40. 40 | April 18, 2010 7:24 pm

    Truck Monkey wrote:

    They crashed in China as opposed to crashing in the Pacific. Better chance at survival.

    The Hornet was spotted by a Japanese patrol boat – they had to launch several hundred miles further out then planned. They didn’t have enough fuel to reach allied-held Chinese soil.


  41. Doppelganger
    41 | April 18, 2010 7:25 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    balls, pure balls.

    balls that I cannot even fathom.

    and 18 and 19 year old Americans over in Iraq and Afghanistan are displaying this degree of balls on a daily basis.

    God Bless our amazing Brave Military. I am in awe of them each and every day


  42. RIX
    42 | April 18, 2010 7:26 pm

    song_and_dance_man
    37 | April 18, 2010 19:22
    John Birch (yep the one whose name is now on the Society) assisted the soldiers in China.

    And Francisco Franco gave refuge to European Jews.


  43. 43 | April 18, 2010 7:26 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    WWI is very fascinating.

    Train wrecks usually are – and that was an EPIC train wreck. Bloody too.


  44. Doppelganger
    44 | April 18, 2010 7:26 pm

    thank you Admins for showcasing these American Heros.
    I don’t visit the swamp but no doubt they are showcasing boiling frogs today.

    they’ve forgotten who gave them their freedom


  45. huckfunn
    45 | April 18, 2010 7:27 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    WWI is very fascinating.

    Just the fact the Kings of England, Germany and Russia were first cousins is a good start.


  46. song_and_dance_man
    46 | April 18, 2010 7:28 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Francisco Franco

    Amazing stuff.


  47. 47 | April 18, 2010 7:29 pm

    @ PSGInfinity:

    Both sides were bad.


  48. 48 | April 18, 2010 7:30 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ huckfunn:
    WWI is very fascinating.

    Just the fact the Kings of England, Germany and Russia were first cousins is a good start.

    Anyone else noticed the similar among of inbreeding among our current political class?


  49. Guggi
    49 | April 18, 2010 7:30 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    Yeah, I was reading the same Wiki page linked in the post. The interned in Russia escaped through Iran, and John Birch (yep the one whose name is now on the Society) assisted the soldiers in China.

    And how do you call people who kill up to 250,000 Chinese (mostly civilians) to find a handful enemies ?


  50. RIX
    50 | April 18, 2010 7:30 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    Francisco Franco
    Amazing stuff.

    Yeah it is . Time for dinner, have a good evening all.


  51. 51 | April 18, 2010 7:31 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ PSGInfinity:
    Both sides were bad.

    All three major fronts, too…


  52. song_and_dance_man
    52 | April 18, 2010 7:31 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    I think that you’ll find this interesting. I was at a coffee last week where kevin McCarthy , Congressman from CA & Republican Congressional
    Campaign Chairman spoke.
    In the Q&A he said that if they retake the House , the plan is to defund ObamaCare.

    If the (R)’s retake Congress, they better not squander the opportunity as they did under W. It was that very thing that turned me against Bush and his stupid Compassionate Conservatism.


  53. Doppelganger
    53 | April 18, 2010 7:31 pm

    PSGInfinity wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:
    Rodan wrote:
    @ huckfunn:
    WWI is very fascinating.
    Just the fact the Kings of England, Germany and Russia were first cousins is a good start.
    Anyone else noticed the similar among of inbreeding among our current political class?

    just Carville


  54. 54 | April 18, 2010 7:32 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    And how do you call people who kill up to 250,000 Chinese (mostly civilians) to find a handful enemies ?

    Some of the worst monsters to ever walk this earth?


  55. goddessoftheclassroom
    55 | April 18, 2010 7:33 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    And they or their fathers all walked in Queen Victoria’s funeral procession.


  56. 56 | April 18, 2010 7:33 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    It was that very thing that turned me against Bush and his stupid Compassionate Conservatism.

    AKA Progressive Republicanism.


  57. song_and_dance_man
    57 | April 18, 2010 7:35 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    And how do you call people who kill up to 250,000 Chinese (mostly civilians) to find a handful enemies ?

    As bad as the Islamists. They were my first experience, from learning about WWII, of suicide missions.


  58. coldwarrior
    58 | April 18, 2010 7:36 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    WWI is very fascinating.

    i find the ww1 period to be more intriguing than ww2…if i had to be a ‘scholar’ on one OR the other, i would choose to study the first war period


  59. 59 | April 18, 2010 7:36 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    It was that very thing that turned me against Bush and his stupid Compassionate Conservatism.
    AKA Progressive Republicanism.

    Democrat Lite. Less Socialism, Same Crappy Taste.


  60. huckfunn
    60 | April 18, 2010 7:37 pm

    PSGInfinity wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:
    Rodan wrote:
    @ huckfunn:
    WWI is very fascinating.
    Just the fact the Kings of England, Germany and Russia were first cousins is a good start.

    Anyone else noticed the similar among of inbreeding among our current political class?

    I’ve always wondered about how Dennis Rodman and Hillary Rodman Clinton are related. //:grin:


  61. 61 | April 18, 2010 7:38 pm

    Doppelganger wrote:

    just Carville

    How about Harry Reid? Pelosi’s from “Bahlmer”(Baltimore) fer cryin out loud! And Slick Willie? And, …


  62. song_and_dance_man
    62 | April 18, 2010 7:39 pm

    @ Rodan:

    And I know you agree with me on this, because we’ve talked about it extensively. That is the very reason the (R)’s were voted out. They abandoned the base and pushed the asinine Progressive Lite agenda.

    And people are gonna be doubly pissed if they are voted back in and continue with their, as you say, Progressive Republicanism.


  63. 63 | April 18, 2010 7:40 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    I’ve always wondered about how Dennis Rodman and Hillary Rodman Clinton are related. //:grin:

    Remember, we still don’t know what planet(s) they came from. Dennis could be the larval form of the Hillary, for example…


  64. huckfunn
    64 | April 18, 2010 7:41 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ huckfunn:
    WWI is very fascinating.

    i find the ww1 period to be more intriguing than ww2…if i had to be a ’scholar’ on one OR the other, i would choose to study the first war period

    Exactly my view. There are several good novels based on that period and I’ll let you know. BTW, it looks like you and the crew pulled an allnighter last night. Anything but fumes left in that Tito’s jug?


  65. 65 | April 18, 2010 7:41 pm

    Gotta do some housewoik; BBL…


  66. song_and_dance_man
    66 | April 18, 2010 7:42 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    I’ve always wondered about how Dennis Rodman and Hillary Rodman Clinton are related. //:grin:

    They can both talk in an Ebonic style?

    /


  67. coldwarrior
    67 | April 18, 2010 7:42 pm

    Doppelganger wrote:

    thank you Admins for showcasing these American Heros.
    I don’t visit the swamp but no doubt they are showcasing boiling frogs today.
    they’ve forgotten who gave them their freedom

    thank the writers, we just turn the knobs…


  68. coldwarrior
    68 | April 18, 2010 7:46 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Rodan wrote:
    @ huckfunn:
    WWI is very fascinating.
    i find the ww1 period to be more intriguing than ww2…if i had to be a ’scholar’ on one OR the other, i would choose to study the first war period

    Exactly my view. There are several good novels based on that period and I’ll let you know. BTW, it looks like you and the crew pulled an allnighter last night. Anything but fumes left in that Tito’s jug?

    i was on luksosowa polish vodka…my latin friend was hittin the tito’s!

    many brain cells were massacred last night.


  69. RickZ
    69 | April 18, 2010 7:47 pm

    The tragedy of the Doolittle Raid was having Awec Bawdwin play the Lt. Col. in Bay’s abomination, Pearl Harbor.


  70. coldwarrior
    70 | April 18, 2010 7:49 pm

    penguins winning 2-1! hooorayy!


  71. huckfunn
    71 | April 18, 2010 7:50 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    many brain cells were massacred last night.

    I’m continually thankful that God gave us so many spares.


  72. song_and_dance_man
    72 | April 18, 2010 7:50 pm

    RickZ wrote:

    The tragedy of the Doolittle Raid was having Awec Bawdwin play the Lt. Col. in Bay’s abomination, Pearl Harbor.

    In the first vid, Doolittles granddaughter explains how she was given a copy of that script and they initially portrayed him as a foul mouth idiot. She contacted Disney and learned that a dead person cannot be libeled and that the writers knew hardly anything about what they were writing about.


  73. huckfunn
    73 | April 18, 2010 7:52 pm

    My assistance servitude is required in the kitchen. Back after supper.


  74. 74 | April 18, 2010 7:54 pm

    Great post. I love military history. Hope we can do more of these here.


  75. bar
    75 | April 18, 2010 7:55 pm

    I like WWII better from an aviation standpoint, better aircraft that just kept getting better. And the other advanced German weapons, technology just “exploded” during that period.

    The Pacific war saw the very first Aircraft carriers battle each other, the first time in history naval war ships fought each other when they couldn’t even see each other, hundreds of miles apart.

    Jet aircraft, sweptwing aircraft, rocket aircraft, ballistic missiles, radar, radio guidance, radio guidance with a camera (first smart bomb which was really a cruise missile V1- buzz bomb), the proximity fuse (we invented) and so many advances came from that era.


  76. buzzsawmonkey
    76 | April 18, 2010 7:58 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    She contacted Disney and learned that a dead person cannot be libeled and that the writers knew hardly anything about what they were writing about.

    While a dead person cannot be defamed, California’s right of privacy/right of publicity law gives protection to a persona for 70 years after a person’s death; the heirs of the 3 Stooges successfully sued in California to prevent distribution of T-shirts carrying a drawing of the Stooges which they had not authorized.

    Going up against Disney’s legal department is a formidable task, but it might have been possible to use the California surviving right of privacy/publicity against them.


  77. coldwarrior
    77 | April 18, 2010 7:58 pm

    if i havent already, i recommend this book:

    at dawn we slept

    goldstein was one of my instructors at grad school, he ended up with all of pranger’s notes from the pacific theater…volumes of material.


  78. 78 | April 18, 2010 8:02 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I still feel like crap and I prayed to the Porcelain God a few times today.


  79. goddessoftheclassroom
    79 | April 18, 2010 8:02 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    WOOT!


  80. coldwarrior
    80 | April 18, 2010 8:05 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I still feel like crap and I prayed to the Porcelain God a few times today.

    nothing like a little alcohol poisoning to get your mind right!

    water, electrolytes, complex carbs and some aspirin…


  81. song_and_dance_man
    81 | April 18, 2010 8:05 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    That makes sense since they used his persona in the movie. I guess that’s why Disney felt compelled to send the family a copy of the script. And Disney did rewrite his part, but not totally to their satisfaction.


  82. RickZ
    82 | April 18, 2010 8:05 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Edwin P. Hoyt wrote some pretty good history books, including some on WWII Japan.


  83. coldwarrior
    83 | April 18, 2010 8:06 pm

    goddessoftheclassroom wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    WOOT!

    woot x2!


  84. song_and_dance_man
    84 | April 18, 2010 8:06 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I still feel like crap and I prayed to the Porcelain God a few times today.

    Too close to idol worship. I like to say I drove the porcelain bus.


  85. coldwarrior
    85 | April 18, 2010 8:07 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I still feel like crap and I prayed to the Porcelain God a few times today.

    i am having a bombay saphire gin and tonicw/lime …TO EMPIRE!


  86. coldwarrior
    86 | April 18, 2010 8:10 pm

    RickZ wrote:

    Edwin P. Hoyt

    i have his book on yamamoto


  87. Eliana
    87 | April 18, 2010 8:19 pm

    Hillary Clinton is a LIAR!!!

    “Since my first visit to Israel nearly thirty years ago, I have returned many times and made many friends. And I have shared your pride in seeing the desert bloom, the economy thrive and your country flourish. I have a deep personal commitment to Israel. And so does President Obama. Our nation will not waver in protecting Israel’s security and promoting Israel’s future,” she said.

    Clinton congratulates Israel: We’ll help shoulder your burdens

    Clinton and Obama have made it clear that they are Israel’s enemies. They lie through their teeth every time they claim support.

    75% of the U.S. House and the U.S. Senate have signed letters to Hillary Clinton asking her to knock off her bad attitude against Israel. They know she’s lying when she claims a commitment to Israel, too.


  88. RickZ
    88 | April 18, 2010 8:22 pm

    @ Eliana:

    Hillary and ☭bie have a commitment to Israel, a commitment to Isreal’s destruction.


  89. song_and_dance_man
    89 | April 18, 2010 8:23 pm

    @ Eliana:

    It may be that, when she says the B. Hussein admin will not waver in protecting Israel’s security and promoting it’s future, it is code for a two state solution and therein, in her mind, lies the guarantee. Giving Israel protection and a future by getting the Pali’s what they want.


  90. Eliana
    90 | April 18, 2010 8:24 pm

    @ RickZ:

    Hillary and ☭bie have a commitment to Israel, a commitment to Isreal’s destruction.

    Yes, they do.


  91. 91 | April 18, 2010 8:28 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Rodan– Saw those Latin Kings videos you put up earlier. You gonna do a post about your experiences with them?


  92. 92 | April 18, 2010 8:29 pm

    @ Bunk X:

    Maybe I don ‘t want to glorify them either. I was drunk and was just posting stuff.


  93. 93 | April 18, 2010 8:31 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    And I know you agree with me on this, because we’ve talked about it extensively. That is the very reason the (R)’s were voted out. They abandoned the base and pushed the asinine Progressive Lite agenda.
    And people are gonna be doubly pissed if they are voted back in and continue with their, as you say, Progressive Republicanism.

    IMO the downslide started with Bush the Elder’s “Read My Lips” speech, and his reneging on the promise.


  94. mtc
    94 | April 18, 2010 9:47 pm

    @ Doppelganger:
    They’re talking about the tea parties again instead of important things.


  95. texasam7
    95 | April 19, 2010 7:23 am

    @ RickZ:
    Damn, you beat me to it! :)


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