SO today, coldwarrior and mrs coldwarrior are doing some bbq…
‘puti’ didnt get the memo this morning and she thought we were going to the country club instead.
So, here is the setup, and the meat, on the left is full brisket and on the right is a pork shoulder for pulled pork, these were taken at the start of the day. Both are rubbed with wonderful spices.
the firebox with a large chunka cherry. we are yankees so we use cherry and maple to smoke our bbq sometimes. apple also works very nicely. And of course we will use the classic mesquite and pecan sometimes. today its cherry and apple with a spicy rub to balance the sweeter smoke.
After about 6 hours of the good smoke, i place foil under the cuts to prevent too much drying out. They get basted with their own juices and maybe sprayed with a pure maple syrup/water mix to keep them moist for the next 8-10 hours of cooking. Never exceed 225F, and always have drinks at the ready!
We use Sweet Baby Rays BBQ sauce, i cant make it any better than his, nor do i doctor it up, so i dont bother anymore. It works great with the rub.
The brisket will be used for lunch meat (kinda like pastrami), in texas jailhouse chili, and for dinner. The pulled pork will be frozen for later as sandwiches or as an ingredient. $45 worth of meat will go a very long way.
Tags: BBQ, Open thread
I’m eating Chinese BBQ ribs!
Also your daughter is adorable!
@ Rodan:
thanks!
we wont get into the bbq until about 8 or 9 tonight….low and slow cooking.
That is one of the cutest kids I have ever seen.
@ coldwarrior:
Your daughter definitely is on the Russian side of things!
This place has the BEST ribs anywhere in the US.
http://www.clembbq.com/
and the baked beans kick ass!
@ savage:
thanks.
Too ugly out today for a barbeque. What the heck were you thinking? lol Cute shortie you got there
I’m looking forward to being able to use my deck.
It snowed yesterday, and we have 30 mph winds today.
The Rockies game last night was even postponed.
Snow?? ICK!
NoThreat2U wrote:
its 70 out there, and its always dry under the roof.
i will bbq in snowstorms as well, it makes no difference to me.
Just looks so gloomy. It is just not a good day all around I guess. Enjoy your bbq
NoThreat2U wrote:
Yup. I was thinking about planting some stuff this weekend, but I guess that’ll have to wait a few more weeks.
@ coldwarrior:
I’ve done that, too. I usually cook Thanksgiving turkeys with the rotisserie, and I made a stuffed pork roast for Christmas on the grill. It was snowing for that one.
coldwarrior
10 | April 24, 2010 16:1
Hmmm, we’re having tacos tonight. Now I wish that I was grilling.
Let me add my voice to the others, your daughter is a little
sweetheart.
Teach her that boys are scum & when it’s time for a boyfriend you’ll get her one.
lobo91 wrote:
we do that here. the more snow, the better the bbq
@ RIX:
Yeah, boys are smelly. lol
RIX wrote:
she’s grounded till she’s 30
@ coldwarrior:
Not old enough lol
@ lobo91:
I did a Fried Turkey one year! It was really good!
coldwarrior wrote:
Hahahahahahahaha…
Cutie ‘puti will wind daddy round her little finger
and daddy will melt like ice in the sun 
@ NoThreat2U:
Exactly
@ Guggi:
too late!
my neighborhood smells great, i was just down the block…mmmmmmm.
@coldwarrior
You need to invite us all over for a
meatmeet up!Your daughter is a cutie!
PS- Thanks for the email. I will repsond shortly.
Excellent! My daughter went on her first actual date as a high school sophomore to Homecoming.
We had the kids & parents over for pictures & I was out on the deck with
some fathers smoking cigars.
As they were leaving I called the boy out to the deck & said “Listen son, I am having a weird day. I have been hearing copters all day & I’m having Agent Orange induced flashbacks. Have my daughter home on time & unwrinkled”
Worked perfectly.
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
you bet.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
@ Guggi:
Are BBQ’s Popular in the part of Europe you guys are at? I’ve been to Spain and Italy and they do alot of BBQ’s there. I was curious about Central Europe?
@ RIX:
Good one +1
Coldwarrior, you are living right.
and you are blessed with a beautiful child
@ RIX:
@25 coldwarrior
My daughter looks similiar to yours, but she takes after mom as well.
You still kind of spook me with our similiar pasts. No offence.
Any admin –
Would it be acceptable to mention my blog here? Only once, I promise — I don’t want to be a blog-pimp, but I would like to let folks know it’s out there.
Hey coldwarrior, Sweet Baby Rays is good but have you tried any of Stubbs marinades or sauces? They are out of Austin TX and may not be in all markets, but woohoo, they are really good. The label looks like brown paper and has a black man on it. He must be Mr. Stubbs.
@ Empire1:
Yes put it out there. we will add you to our blogroll.
@ Doppelganger:
i see you have a guest post tomorrow.
@ snowcrash:
I use Cajun seasoning, works pretty good!
@ snowcrash:
we are JUST starting to see stubbs around here and i have had it in the south, excellent qualtiy, very good stuff.
Rodan wrote:
that’s what i was going to say
@26 Rodan
Are BBQ’s Popular in the part of Europe you guys are at? I’ve been to Spain and Italy and they do alot of BBQ’s there. I was curious about Central Europe?
BBQ is big in Germany (we had a warm day today and you could smell the smoke in my neighborhood), but I still think the best in Europe is Spain. They simply do it right. Eastern Europe… not so much from what I have seen.
by far the best thing I’ve ever eaten, BBQ or not.
Brisket. On white bread. . The best sauce of all time. .
and a shiner bock. Pickles on the side.
city market, Luling Texas ( about 10 miles south of I-10 ) about 30 miles East of San antonio heading towards Houston
you leave smelling like pit smoke
@ Rodan:
Yeah, I had to move to the South to learn about Tony C’s Creole seasoning. Folks here use it in everything from deviled eggs to part of a dry rub. It is good.
coldwarrior wrote:
Another photographic trek into the black hole of Detroit
@ Doppelganger:
i already made homemade white bread for the brisket.
good stuff there.
@ snowcrash:
we have had tony’s c’s stuff up here for a while. funny tho, in the early 90′s we had to have zatarain’s products ups’ed up here.
Rodan wrote:
Thank you very much! There’s not a lot to it as yet, but I’m determined to keep it reasonably active. Everyone’s welcome at the Dragon’s Den, but for the usual reasons, you have to be registered to comment.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
Ah Ok so in Germany it’s Sausages they BBQ alot?
In Spain from what I remember it was Sausages (Chorizos) and Pork (Pernil).
Although Spain may have the edge on BBQ, Germany, Switzerland And Austria have the best Chocolate! I really love Swiss White Chocolate.
I like Bone Sucking sauce for over counter sauce.
It makes me furious to read the labels on the jars of BBQ sauce. Most of them are 90% high fructose corn syrup. Bone Suckin is actual sauce, not sugar
@ coldwarrior:
Thank you, too!
coldwarrior wrote:
I love the Air Force commisaries (we have 2 here, with the Academy and Peterson AFB). They carry tons of regional (and international) food items that you can’t get in regular stores.
@ Doppelganger:
Brisket is way more common in my part of Texas, maybe because beef ribs aren’t as good as pork. You got the white bread, (Mrs. Bairds), and pickles and onions part right. Sometimes they leave the loaf of bread on the table and give you the piled up brisket on a plate. This is not N Y brisket or the canadian smoked meat stuff. This is all wood smoked beef. Yum. LOL.
this is making me hungry
44. Empire 1
“Dragon’s Den” – interesting choice for a name of a blog. Reminds me of “Dragon” magazine from the 80′s. Were you involved with RPGs at one time?
Rodan wrote:
Yep, but not in winter.
At some places/areas where I live BBQ’s are restricted because of the smoke. But people really enjoy BBQ’s. (It’s funny: even people who are strong anti-American import all the US-traditions
like: BBQ, Halloween, Santa Claus (they even write ‘Xmas’ instad of Christmas) or Valentines Day etc.)
snowcrash wrote:
thats what is smoking now, a full texas brisket…18 hours of low and slow for that slab
Some of the best BBQ that I have ever had was at Sticky Fingers in
Charleston, SC. Great Ribs & Wings.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
Oh and they BBQ Chicken alot in Spain as well. Something the Colombians improved upon.
@ snowcrash:
Some of the best brisket I’ve had was from a place that was in the back of a gas station in Alexandria, LA, of all places. I wouldn’t have even gone in there, but a bunch of locals all talked about it.
Actually, that was about the only good thing about Alexandria, now that I think about it…
@ Doppelganger:
Look forward to your pictures tomorrow. The last set were excellent. You and Paladin Phil really make husky blogger look devoid of talent.
@ RIX:
Anything BBQ place here in the South is good.
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
Indeed I was! It was some time ago, when Mr. Empire was stationed at Ramstein (remember when Carter “downsized” the Presidential aircraft fleet?). I was one of the DMs at our weekly sessions at the rec center.
The blog is named in honor of one of our dogs, though — Dragon, a lab-husky mix whose “den” was the bedroom I used as an office in the house we rented before this one.
@ Rodan:
If you bbq or grill chicken outside I must recomment Stubbs chicken marinade. It is citrus and herbs and all kinds of good stuff like brown sugar and ginger and garlic. Anyway, make boring chicken breads taste delish. Everyone always asks what I use. I lie and tell them Wishbone Italian salad dressing. LOL
That seems to be true.
The greatest thing that I’ve ever seen on a menu was at Red, Hot & Blue in Jackson, MS.
On top it said, “Eadawhichyoufingas.”
@ snowcrash:
we must have some secrets!
@ snowcrash:
I will take you up on your advise!
@45 Rodan
Ah Ok so in Germany it’s Sausages they BBQ alot?
In Spain from what I remember it was Sausages (Chorizos) and Pork (Pernil).
True, but they import alot of Argentian steaks and seafood. If I lived in Spain I would easily pack on another 50lb.
Although Spain may have the edge on BBQ, Germany, Switzerland And Austria have the best Chocolate! I really love Swiss White Chocolate.
Swiss chocolate is the best. Germany has over 600 breweries, so there is always a selction to choose from, but I have been drifting towards the Czech beers lately.
Yes, I admit it. I am a beer snob.
well my son is off to prom and then after prom.
they keep em busy these days, no time to get in to
trouble.
why do you call smoking meat bbq, there is such a difference, bbq is meat cooked over an open flame smoking is a completely different thing
@ Buckeye Abroad:
Vintage 3 – the world’s most exclusive beer points towards the future
@ mawskrat:
My son is going to his senior prom tonight too! Pretty darned expensive evening it is too! LOL.
justin case wrote:
bbq is not the same as smoking meat.
@ snowcrash:
yeh it is!
@ justin case:
I think BBQ is like “grilling” over a flame and smoked is done in a smoker, low and slow, but many folks call it all BBQ.
any of you good ‘ol boys get up to Detroit, try yourself some of the best BBQ in America. No kidding.
I’ve eaten all over the South ( well the part that matters, Texas ) KC, and Carolina.
This guy is selling some love here
http://slowsbarbq.com/
and they have killer beers on tap.
the perfect place to stop after exploring the ruins of Detroit since it’s right down in the thick of it
@59 Empire 1
It was some time ago, when Mr. Empire was stationed at Ramstein (remember when Carter “downsized” the Presidential aircraft fleet?). I was one of the DMs at our weekly sessions at the rec center.
Ramstein. Haven’t been there for quite awhile. I was a kid during the Carter regime though.
You won’t believe this, but I know a group of expats (UK, American, Australian) and some Germans around Frankfurt who get together and play the AD&D thing. These guys are professionals.. some married with kids. I simply don’t have the time for it, but as a teenager it was a blast.
Everybody have a great evening.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
i just came back from my local bar and i saw people go thru so much food it’s incredible, i dont know where they put it. plate after plate of squid and patatas bravas and pan oli oli and every other high calorie food you can think of, i just have a chicken breast with chips and i am bloated.
lobo91 wrote:
simple food, made with passion, good smoke and time. These are the great finds in life.
@ mawskrat:
Maws, $85 a ticket and it is not including dinner. The menu is for heavy hors’d and dessert buffet. WTF? They are going out to dinner before and they got a stretch Hummer limo for 8 couples. Some really big groups got something called a “party bus”. LOL When I went, my date had to borrow the family sedan for the evening.
smoking meat is using smoke to cure the meat (like a ham)
bbq, int he american sense is using low temp, 225F to slowly cook the meat while adding smoke for flavor
like that…i think.
justin case wrote:
you didnt get the hollow leg upgrade?
thermometer grill pit guage
cold smoke…cures meat
@ Buckeye Abroad:
Actually, I don’t have any trouble believing it at all! Our group was all adults, mostly AF types (which meant no real campaign games, because players were constantly getting sent TDY or PCS), but we had loads of fun!
@ coldwarrior:
i swear i saw an 8 stone girl put away more food than a 17 stone hairy bloke with the munchies could ever do, wow.
@ justin case:
Spaniards love to eat! But I’m sure you know this from living there!
@ coldwarrior:
Exactly.
Unless you’re from California. They call anything cooked outdoors “barbecued.”
justin case wrote:
dual-hollow legs!
lol! good thread
@ lobo91:
i defer to the texans and carolinans…and kc mo.
@ Rodan:
yes it’s a couple of neat anis with water and then endless tapas followed by a main course and then ice cream.
i couldent eat half the amount of a poco chica.
coldwarrior wrote:
I just assume that whatever they do in California is wrong.
Simpler that way.
speaking of BBQ
Look at this statement from this article
Brainwashing. I’m speechless. Who teaches their children such disrespect for the police? If this punk gets stopped it’s probably because he looks like a punk
#67 Guggi
I love Guiness, but never had a taste for Carlsberg.
Ich habe letze Woche im Spiegelgelesen, daß die Deutschen weniger Bier trinken.
I would say its true due to the changing ethnic demographic, but that will never be brought in the media.
coldwarrior wrote:
Regional variations. Here, what we call BBQ, you would call grilling. The indirect heat-via-smoke thing is very uncommon. In fact I’ve never seen it done, and to the unaccustomed eye it would look like smoking.
We had a bbq grill (for clarity) last week for my birthday. That was fun. The day prior spent laying a new temporary patio, less so. The reasons why are long and not particularly interesting but a pretty good example of of just how my family works.
@ archonix:
see the second photo, the fire/smoke comes from the smaller box ont eh right of the grill. the meat is in the larger part.
internal temp of the cooking/smoking chamber is 225F+/- a few degrees
lobo91 wrote:
I’m sure cj smoked some meat in his day.
//jus sayin
Doppelganger wrote:
someone needs to wash his parent’s mouth out with soap.
New Post on Diary of Deadalus. Hoosier Hoops claims most abortions are rich white women and that the GOP uses abortion as a code word for racism against blacks.
Well he lies and I debunked him!
Hoosier Hoops plays the race card on abortion
@ lobo91:
Yeah, but they come up with good recipes for avocado’s in all kinds of salads.
@ mawskrat:
I could have done without that image, thank you.
@ Doppelganger:
That’s so bull crap he’s being fed. Also if he’s a citizen or legal resident, why worry! This is aimed at Illegals.
Alguno Hispanos son tonto.
@ coldwarrior:
now i would call that smoking meat, i think any meat that can be cooked over an open flame and then eaten there and then is to my mind bbq, anything else that takes many hours to soak up a flavour is smoked, kippers are smoked not bbq.
@ coldwarrior:
I’d bet it was teachers.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
Possible but I think people take also more care of themselves. It’s also a health issue and it has been going on for quite some time now (nearly two decades). (Eine Menge Türken trinken Alkohol und sie machen die Mehrheit der Muslime in Deutschland aus. Selbst in der Türkei wird viel Alkohol getrunken, vor allem Schnaps.)
@ coldwarrior:
Yeah, I can see. I wouldn’t be able to wait that long for meat that was cooking. in my family the practice is to start marinading meat about two days before the day, which has the same tenderising effect as the smoke in your doodad, with the added benefit of not having to look after it all day. Cos we’re lazy.
@ Rodan:
Hoops isn’t the sharpest tool in that shed. I remember he wrote a long post about something? totally forgettable. OMG, the errors. LOL
75. justin case
i just came back from my local bar and i saw people go thru so much food it’s incredible, i dont know where they put it. plate after plate of squid and patatas bravas and pan oli oli and every other high calorie food you can think of, i just have a chicken breast with chips and i am bloated
Where in Spain are you? I spent alot of time in Madrid and Barcelona on business in the past. The food was great and I could never understand the opening times of restaraunts. They wouldn’t open until 2100 and then you would eat, and eat, and drink. The places would be packed with families until midnight… and the kids had to get up and go to school in the morning. I never understood it.
@ mawskrat:
indeed i hear he smokes a mean pork sword.
@ Rodan:
I love the assumption that cops are just going to go around demanding that any hispanic-looking people they see show them ID.
That might work in Vermont, but I don’t think it would be too effective in Arizona, unless they plan to hire thousands of extra cops. That’s all they’d have time to do.
http://www.citizensforaconstitutionalrepublic.com/waller5-8-06.html#top
Try that on for size.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
i am in valencia and as you say the kids are there till the early hours, they eat dinner here about ten and they really go for it, lol.
archonix wrote:
your looking at it the wrong way….it gives you more time to drink
@ mawskrat:
Well, when you put it that way…
anybody remember nam grunt, he was mr bbq, like every day he had a rack of ribs in the old smoker.
i used to think can you get bbq overload syndrom.
@ lobo91:
If I’m stopped for something I have to show ID. Why should anyone else get out of it? Crazy.
@ m:
Because some people are more equal than others.
@ justin case:
He is over at Ace of Spades, still posts what he is eating and it is a lot of grilled/bbq meat and all the fixins. LOL
m wrote:
I was carded a whiles back for smokes..hell I’m 52 with silver hair.lol
@ Buckeye Abroad:
Oh yeah they eat late in Spain. Lots of wine also!
@ archonix:
hell man, an 18 hour bbq is the ultimate in lazy…you just have to check it every hour or so and you can drink booze while doing it!
@ m:
because it’s not pc, and it’s against their human rights,
in england we used to have stop and search because it was well known that young black men carry knives and wont hesitate to use them.
but then the powers that be decided that it’s racist and now we have a stabbing epidemic going on but it’s better a few people are killed each week than we are racist.
justin case wrote:
I wouldn’t!
tll you what, forget all that smoke malarky, nothing beats a decent charcoal grill when it’s bucketing down on an april sunday afternoon. My best memories are of BBQs at my aunt and uncle’s place that required a gazebo to be hastily erected the moment those clouds came rolling in. Doesn’t happen any more, they divorced and she’s somewhere in Spain now. Malaga I think.
coldwarrior wrote:
that’s why even men who can’t even boil water all own backyard grills!
what a great concept: Getting drunk in the sunshine. Fresh air. More beers, fire, smoke and meat.
Good times
@ m:
Which is all they’re going to do in Arizona. Right now, cops in Phoenix and Tucson aren’t allowed to check someone’s immigration status when they pull them over or arrest them for something else, because they have “sanctuary” policies.
Giving illegals a literal get out of jail free card is ridiculous.
@ snowcrash:
yeah i see lots of his posts, over there, he is still fighting that war.
Doppelganger wrote:
indeed.
@103 Guggi
Possible but I think people take also more care of themselves. It’s also a health issue and it has been going on for quite some time now (nearly two decades).
Das ist Wahr.
(Eine Menge Türken trinken Alkohol und sie machen die Mehrheit der Muslime in Deutschland aus. Selbst in der Türkei wird viel Alkohol getrunken, vor allem Schnaps.)
Auch Wahr. Türken sind die Mehrheit von Immigraten in Hessen. Kömisch aber ich habe gerade ein gebrauchtes Auto von an Iraner gekauft. Er hat mir erzählt, er vertraut keine Türken oder Iraqer. Er hat Iran in 1980 verlassen. Strange days indeed.
@ lobo91:
Giving illegals a literal get out of jail free card is ridiculous.
Well hell, maybe I should tell the local PD my son is hispanic. They don’t call him Chico just for the hell of it. Well, actually they do…but if I can use this to my benefit……
HELP, HE’S BEING OPPRESSED!!!!!!!
carnes a la brasa mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm drool
justin case wrote:
That sounds a lot like what General Casey said regarding Ft. Hood. jihadi Hasan murdered 14 people but what is important is that “diversity” in the military NOT become a casualty.
For me, nothing beats a nicely marbled rib eye with mesquite chips thrown on the bbq plate.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
Evenin’, warm here, and thunder storms tonite.
@ Rodan:
HH is wrong as usual. Abortion mills(I won’t dignify them by calling them clinics) are located mostly in poor neighborhoods. After all, Planned Parenthood was founded by a racist.
song_and_dance_man wrote:
oh yeah….we grill really, really good steaks once every two weeks.
love it
chickadee wrote:
I really hope we’re rid of Casey next spring. April will be 4 years since he was fired from his post at MNF-I and promoted into the Chief of Staff position.
@110 justin case
i am in valencia
Great place! I spent New Years Eve there in 2007 in a nice hotel with lots of food and drink. Pleasant town with a big aquarium.
@ chickadee:
exactly i am sure that the elites have a figure for the amount of lives that can be lost each year in terrorism before the facarde of diversity is under threat. my estimate is 300 per year.
@ mtc:
I have the stats in Daedalus.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
would be nice if they spoke spanish.
@ coldwarrior:
We have bbq steak once a week, and it’s almost always rib eye. I made a huge batch of taquitos the other night using a slow cooked cut of tri-tip. I froze a few batches for later meals. Man, were those good. It was the first time I used a really good cut to make them.
@118 Rodan
Oh yeah they eat late in Spain. Lots of wine also!
I know. I love the place… even have family in Madrid, but I would get fat and die sooner if I ever lived there.
lobo91 wrote:
I literally felt sick to my stomach when I heard that crazy b.s. It is very chilling to realize how dangerous the p.c. insanity has become. Fourteen murdered and the blather is abt. “diversity.”
BBL, off to take some prom pix! My son looks very nice in a tuxedo.
Caption this photo
131 BenZ
Evenin’, warm here, and thunder storms tonite.
How are you? How is the misses?
I always loved the thunder storms at home. I wish I was there.
a bit of social observation.
There is a ‘Everybody draw Mohammad day” page on facebook.
now, if you create a page called ” I light my own farts” ” or “I like Brussel Sprouts” you get thousands of fans.
but this group has 27 fans.
kind of telling, no?
Hey everyone. Bad bad day here and supposed to be worst. Some of the worst lightening I have seen. Tornadoes and all that stuff.Thought I drop off this piece before I disappear again.
‘In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American…There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag… We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language.. And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.’
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
@ Doppelganger:
Where is that I have a pic for them.
@ Grimcargo:
just search Everybody draw mohammad day on facebook.
I hit “like” It was up to 30 people.
I’d love to see a million members of this group
PS: It’s May 20th
@ Doppelganger:
Thanks I did and I found it. I left my comment on one of the pages but I don’t have face book and resisted facebook forever dang it. I will try to send in my drawing. hahahah…I think the more pics those ghouls see the more they know they are up against a wall.
Pecan yes, Mesquite NOOOOO! unless you don’t know how to smoke right or your food taste bad otherwise, LOL! Sorry just my personal opinion. Mesquite for me makes everything taste like crap.
Apple, Cherry, Pecan, Maple, Hickory, Oak, Alder. Those are good smoke woods…
I also detest tinfoil when smoking, I understand the need and don’t deny the results. But damn it, that’s not proper BBQ. Of course my electric smoker is also not proper BBQ, but you can’t deny the results and I don’t use tinfoil…… Except for a hat!
@ bar:
I mostly use mesquite when I bbq. No smoking- just using the chips at cook time to give it a camping trip taste. I also use hickory and apple.
@ song_and_dance_man:
Yeah, I agree. A very short time over mesquite can do fine. But to long of a time gives a very bitter taste in my opinion.
For grilling (short time) “mesquite” I have used.
@ bar:
Damn, that should be “too long” not “to long”.
PIMF except when its not!