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Emanuel – “we might have made a mistake treating Israel like garbage”

by Speranza ( 123 Comments › )
Filed under Anti-semitism, Democratic Party, Israel, Politics at May 17th, 2010 - 9:00 am

I guess Rahmbo and Obambi took for granted the docile, predictable, Jewish vote when they decided to treat Netanyahu like a Mafia turncoat on the witness stand. All it did was show what a small minded, petty, ignorant man we have in the White House – who treats friends like enemies and enemies like friends- and rallied support for Netanyahu both in Israel and America.  I hope that friends of Israel, both Jewish and non Jewish, are not deceived by the “charm” offensive. You did not “screw up” the message Ramhbo – your message was already “screwed up”.

by Herb Keinon

The Obama administration has “screwed up the messaging” about its support for Israel over the past 14 months, and it will take “more than one month to make up for 14 months,” White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel said on Thursday to a group of rabbis called together for a meeting in the White House.

“During the elections there were doubts about President Obama’s support for Israel, and now they have resurfaced,” Emanuel said, according to one of those who participated in the meeting. “But concerning policy, we have done everything that we can that is in Israel’s security – and long-range interests. Watch what the administration does.”

Dennis Ross, who runs the administration’s Iran policy, tried to allay fears during the meeting that by calling for a nuclear-free Middle East, US policy regarding Israel’s alleged nuclear capabilities was changing.

Since 1995, Ross explained, the administration’s policy, supported by Israel, was to push for a nuclear-free Middle East in conjunction with comprehensive peace. Emanuel, according to a participant in the meeting, said, “We understand Israel’s full layer of deterrence.”

These comments came during the second of two White House meetings with a carefully selected slate of 15 rabbis from across the US representing the Orthodox, Reform and Conservative streams. The first meeting took place on April 20, shortly after Obama was widely perceived to have treated Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu shabbily during their last White House meeting.

In addition to Emanuel and Ross, the other administration officials in the meetings were Dan Shapiro, the deputy national security adviser who supervises policy for Israel and its neighbors; Susan Sher, the chief White House liaison to the Jewish community; and Danielle Borin, associate director of the White House Office of Public Engagement and special assistant to Vice President Joe Biden.

Ross opened Thursday’s meeting, saying he hoped that the rabbis “had seen the manifestations of the change” of the administration’s tone since they met the first time a month ago.

He quoted Defense Minister Ehud Barak, who last week in Washington declared that regarding defense and security, the relationship between Israel and the US had never been stronger.

Ross said the US was providing Israel with everything it needed “in a tough neighborhood,” integrating Israel into America’s “military architecture,” especially in the missile defense sphere. Both he and Shapiro were meeting Israeli officials on a weekly basis, either in Jerusalem or Washington, regarding defense issues, Ross added.

Read the rest: Emanuel to Rabbis: ‘US screwed up’

Colonel Ralph Peters weighs in on a related topic

‘It’s those damned Jews.” That’s the muffled message I hear when, pretending to represent our national interest, voices call for the abandonment of Israel.

We’ve heard it from agenda-driven scholars who write that our alliance with Israel is responsible for our problems in the Middle East. More worrisome still, I’ve begun to hear it from a minority of military officers, as well as from Washington types.

This latest, and sadly lasting, bout of moral cancer can be dated back to 2006 and the publication of an article that had sought a home for years, “The Israeli Lobby And US Foreign Policy,” by professors John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt.

The book’s assault on Israel was welcomed by figures including President Jimmy Carter’s national-security adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski – a hoary Israel detractor. With their Ivy League credentials, Mearsheimer and Walt made anti-Israeli diatribes (semi-)respectable. Their effect has been lasting.

OK, let’s get one thing straight: There is no evidence that if Israel disappeared tomorrow, the Middle East would suddenly blossom into a pro-American model of justice, hard work and progress.

Nor is there any evidence that anti-American terrorism would slacken. In al Qaeda’s list of complaints, Israel barely makes the top dozen. A US turn away from Israel would only encourage and empower terrorists, convincing them of our cowardice and folly.

The grotesquely failed societies of the Middle East desperately need Israel and the US to blame for their self-wrought problems. Neither Washington nor Tel Aviv and Jerusalem are responsible for the Arab world’s pervasive corruption, stagnation, oppression of women and lack of creativity or a work ethic.

Neither the US nor Israel is to blame for the unprecedented squandering of wealth by Arab oil powers, for their failure to invest in human capital or productive infrastructure, for the absence of democracy and respect for human rights, or for the region’s mockery of the rule of law.

Given the vast homemade tragedy of the greater Middle East, it’s inevitable that Israel’s hated for its shining success amid the local squalor. Likewise, the US is hated for our might — and the seductiveness of our civilization.

But if that explains why Arabs, Persians and others would relish, but not reward, our abandonment of Israel, it doesn’t explain the American voices repeating Arab propaganda about devious Jews controlling our foreign policy.

I divide the dump-Israel movement’s leaders and fellow travelers into four groups:

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  1. Nevergiveup
    1 | May 17, 2010 9:05 am

    Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!


  2. 2 | May 17, 2010 9:16 am

    Ya think?


  3. Nevergiveup
    3 | May 17, 2010 9:17 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!

    Well not me you understand. I knew what he, they, were all the time.


  4. RIX
    4 | May 17, 2010 9:18 am

    Let me see, Obama had a Muslim father & step-father, he took adavanced Islam studies in Indonesia (Koran). Hmmm, he traveled to the Ummah with his roommate from Columbia, he consorted with radical Islamists.
    Oh yeah & he joined a faux Christian Church headed by an anti-Semitic
    minister that used to belong to the Nation of Islam & he wrote that he would stand with Muslims if the political winds blew bad.
    I just can’t tell if he has Islamic sympathies./


  5. 5 | May 17, 2010 9:19 am

    They didn’t “screw up the message”. They were very clear. For once in their misbegotten lives they showed the world their unvarnished truth – they despise Israel. Obama himself is a not-too-well closeted anti-Semite. He may not parade around the Lincoln Bedroom in a Waffen SS uniform for shits and giggles, but if there were a Second Holocaust he wouldn’t shed a tear. And he certainly wouldn’t raise a hand to stop it from happening.


  6. spinmore
    6 | May 17, 2010 9:35 am

    Paraphrase Chris Christie:

    ‘When you’re not really sure where someone stands on an issue . . . there’s a reason for it . . . they’re gonna F*cK U’


  7. Speranza
    7 | May 17, 2010 9:36 am

    IT is always amateur hour at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.


  8. Speranza
    8 | May 17, 2010 9:37 am

    Btw Col. Peters makes the usual mistake of referring to Israel’s government as Tel Aviv – that’s like referring to America’s government as New York City.


  9. 9 | May 17, 2010 9:43 am

    OT- Over the weekend, Fultonchain made a point that Obama had “repealed more gun control laws than BUsh” (or something like it; I don’ thave time to go find the exact quote). Carolina Girl demanded a link, and none was forthcoming, but Ithink I know what he was talking about. Nothing has been repealed, exactly, but the Congress did pass laws, which Obama signed, to allow people to carry guns in National Parks and take unloaded weapons in baggage on Amtrack trains. These are small victories for gun rights, but victories nonetheless. They are a contrast between when the Republicans were in power and they did nothing but allow the “Assault Weapons” ban to expire (why do you think I am always harping on the Republicans to start leading on gun rights).

    It is an interesting fact, but I think I can deflate some of Fultonchain’s “gotcha” triumphalism: Obama signed the laws because they passed by 67 and 68 votes in the Senate respectively. Obama signed the laws not because he isn’t a rabid gun–grabber, but because he didn’t want to be the first President to get a veto overridden in, God, decades. IIRC Neither Clinton nor Bush ever had that happen. With all his other failures and the near-failure of ObamaCare, all he needed was that kind of rebuke from the legislature.

    It does point out that we are winning this issue. The Courts have moved towards a more liberal (small “l”) interpretation of the Second Amendment, public opinion is solidly on our side, States have been becomming more assertive in this area, and the wheels of the Legislature are moving, albeit slowly. If the Republicans would lead, we could put this issue into the history books along with Prohibition.


  10. spinmore
    10 | May 17, 2010 9:46 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    Yea! . . what I.F. said


  11. 11 | May 17, 2010 9:48 am

    I was thinking that having Mitchel as the go to guy for Israel was a very clear message from the start. But thinking about it even more, what progressive, liberal in this admin could be really fair and level headed toward Israel? Hilary’s true colors came out too.

    They can try to back peddle now, like that nasty fat muz chick, but its not going to work unless there is an actual change in the new policy.


  12. 12 | May 17, 2010 9:50 am

    Obama’s treatment of Israel is not a mistake, it’s intentional. It fits in with his Tranzi 3rd World Liberation Ideology.


  13. vagabond trader
    13 | May 17, 2010 9:53 am

    Israel won’t fall for it,American Jews will.


  14. 14 | May 17, 2010 9:53 am

    I had a horrible dream last night that UN workers were running rampant all over, tackling people down and forcing several injections into us.

    When your own government acts in such a way that you end up with nightmares about them, all I can say is I’ve never had dreams like that before.


  15. vagabond trader
    15 | May 17, 2010 9:56 am

    @ teacake:

    I had a horrible dream last night that UN workers were running rampant all over

    Don’t worry teacake,the UN pussies only run rampant in third world crappers or on helpless women and children. We aren’t there yet.


  16. spinmore
    16 | May 17, 2010 9:58 am

    teacake wrote:

    I had a horrible dream last night that UN workers were running rampant all over, tackling people down and forcing several injections into us.
    When your own government acts in such a way that you end up with nightmares about them, all I can say is I’ve never had dreams like that before.

    T/C . . U reminded me of a visit to the pediatrician’s years back (kids are now 15/17/and 20) where the form asked if there were any guns in the house)?? Didn’t ask about diet – swimming pools – or 5gal. buckets though . . go figure(?) these people are Nuts!


  17. vagabond trader
    17 | May 17, 2010 10:02 am

    @ Speranza:

    Btw Col. Peters makes the usual mistake of referring to Israel’s government as Tel Aviv – that’s like referring to America’s government as New York City

    Shows how deep the pc crowd has infiltrated our daily speech when someone as smart as Peters defers to their narrative.Someone should correct him.


  18. Bob in Breckenridge
    18 | May 17, 2010 10:02 am

    Nothing to worry about, people. The Palestinian Authority has the answer to the problem-

    PA to Israelis: Go Back to Europe
    As Palestinian Authority officials agree to indirect “proximity” peace talks with Israel, PA television sends a different message. A broadcast that was repeated twice last week called on Israelis to “return” to Europe and Ethiopia, so that PA Arabs can “return” to Israeli cities such as Akko (Acre), Haifa and Jerusalem.

    The speaker suggested that Israelis go to “your original homeland,” listing Ukraine, Poland, Germany, Russia and Ethiopia as possible options. He did not mention the many countries in the Arab world from which Jews fled to Israel, such as Syria, Egypt, or Iraq.

    PA TV is owned and controlled by the Palestinian Authority.

    Besides portraying Israeli Jews – most of whom were born in Israel – as foreigners, the broadcast also backs the “right of return.” The PA, along with much of the Arab world, demands that Israel allow millions of Arabs born abroad to “return” to the Israeli cities from which their grandparents or great grandparents fled during the War of Independence in 1948.

    The broadcast was picked up and translated by Palestinian Media Watch, which noted that this is far from the first time the PA has broadcast material portraying Israelis as foreigners who “stole” the land. In February, a PA children’s program told Israeli Arab children that they are “part of occupied Palestine.”

    In a recent interview with OpEdNews reporter Joan Brunwasser, PMW director Itamar Marcus warned that the incitement in PA media is more indicative of the PA’s intentions than its statements given to the foreign press. “We feel that if there is to be peace, it has to start with children,” Marcus said. “Therefore, what children are being taught in schools and what they are learning from music videos and children’s media are a better indicator of the real beliefs and goals of the leaders, and will also determine if we have peace in the next generation.”

    Bob in Breckenridge to the PA (And all moo-slimes, for that matter)- FOAD, you filthy goatfuckers!


  19. 19 | May 17, 2010 10:03 am

    @ spinmore:
    The gov has been ushering in the progressive bullshit little by little over the generations. They are just more out in the open now, considering the little “hatchlings” are now old enough to be helpful tools. I was also wondering if perhaps teachers for all those years could have been hypnotized with the propaganda somehow at the union meetings? Nothing is too strange to think possible these days. Since the 70s, teachers in the public school system are basically union folk that dispense union agendas.


  20. Speranza
    20 | May 17, 2010 10:04 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Shows how deep the pc crowd has infiltrated our daily speech when someone as smart as Peters defers to their narrative.Someone should correct him.

    They (not Peters) usually say “Tel Aviv” with such contempt. Almost as if they want to say “Miami Beach”.


  21. vagabond trader
    21 | May 17, 2010 10:05 am

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    No doubt this is pretty much how the administration views Israel.


  22. 22 | May 17, 2010 10:07 am

    Bob in Breckenridge wrote:

    Go Back to Europe

    Funny that nothing in the Old Testament mentions Europe. And what’s the difference now since Europe is being taken over by them?

    BTW Pam has details at her site about the rally to stop the NYC mosque


  23. spinmore
    23 | May 17, 2010 10:09 am

    @ teacake:
    I’ve explained to my kids (who want to know how we’ve gotten 2 where we are) that we (Constitution Loving Americans) have pretty much allowed Libs free reign over the years, because conservatives are pretty much a go along to get along kind of folk. We don’t force our beliefs on people. I think most on the right have a strong Liberterian streak in us. The Libs have mistaken this to think that we are some kind of push-overs. They have overstepped thier bounds. IMHO


  24. vagabond trader
    24 | May 17, 2010 10:10 am

    @ Speranza:

    The irony is both places, Tel Aviv and Miami, are home to the most progressive Jews, their supposed political allies.No matter how libral Jews are, they remain “the other” to their non Jewish fellow travellers. Silly twits don’t even realize it.


  25. vagabond trader
    25 | May 17, 2010 10:13 am

    This redaction of hostility toward Jews can be distilled into one word. Contributions. Very hefty contributions.They call Jews money hungry,lol.


  26. 26 | May 17, 2010 10:15 am

    Why do liberal Jews contribute to Dems in the first place if they don’t care about Israel or even Jewish issues (whatever those are)?


  27. 27 | May 17, 2010 10:16 am

    @ teacake:

    Mosque to open on 9/11/11


  28. vagabond trader
    28 | May 17, 2010 10:17 am

    @ teacake:

    In the present,complete denial.


  29. Bumr50
    29 | May 17, 2010 10:17 am

    @ BenZacharia:

    Allen West just talked about this on Quinn & Rose this morning.


  30. vagabond trader
    30 | May 17, 2010 10:21 am

    @ BenZacharia:

    Muzz depravity knows no limits. Anyone who believes this is a gesture of friendship should have their heads examined.


  31. Nevergiveup
    31 | May 17, 2010 10:21 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Speranza:

    The irony is both places, Tel Aviv and Miami, are home to the most progressive Jews, their supposed political allies.No matter how libral Jews are, they remain “the other” to their non Jewish fellow travellers. Silly twits don’t even realize it.

    Well I get your point, but I am not so sure I’d lump Tel Aviv in with Miami.


  32. spinmore
    32 | May 17, 2010 10:21 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ BenZacharia:
    Allen West just talked about this on Quinn & Rose this morning.

    At the risk of sounding like a broken record (or a plant 4 that matter) . . . I love Allen West (like a brother)

    Now he’s the real deal (or the best actor in the universe)!!


  33. 33 | May 17, 2010 10:21 am

    @ BenZacharia:
    Hello people, wake up!

    For us, it’s a symbol, a platform that will give voice to the silent majority of Muslims who suffer at the hands of extremists.

    No doubt it is being funded by the saudi gov. I’m so sick of liberals that think its so cool to trust them when mountains of evidence goes against it.


  34. vagabond trader
    34 | May 17, 2010 10:22 am

    @ Nevergiveup:

    They aren’t both liberal enclaves???


  35. Nevergiveup
    35 | May 17, 2010 10:24 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    They aren’t both liberal enclaves???

    Tel Aviv is not as liberal as you may think. And the citizens of Tel Aviv, having been the victims of both missile attack and terrorist bombs, and knowing where on the map Israel probably is, is really not Miami.


  36. Bumr50
    36 | May 17, 2010 10:25 am

    @ spinmore:

    He was on a roll this morning! I’ll post a link to the podcast with the hour he’s on when it goes up.

    It was a great segment.


  37. 37 | May 17, 2010 10:27 am

    Isn’t this wonderful – in a few days

    Barack Obama hosts his second state dinner on Wednesday for Mexican President Felipe Calderon

    and he just held a gala event for the Afghanistan president last week. Wonder if he plans something similar for Israel in the near future being they realized a mistake has been made. LOL YEah right


  38. RIX
    38 | May 17, 2010 10:27 am

    @ vagabond trader:
    Trader, there are Jews like Ludwig. He is not “happy” with Obama on Israel. No problem though, he is still prepared to open a vein for him.


  39. spinmore
    39 | May 17, 2010 10:27 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ spinmore:
    He was on a roll this morning! I’ll post a link to the podcast with the hour he’s on when it goes up.
    It was a great segment.

    look forward to that. This guy has already done about 100 campaign commercials – and doesn’t even know it. One smart SOB!


  40. spinmore
    40 | May 17, 2010 10:29 am

    @ spinmore:
    Oh . . and you know I’m not talking about his run 4 congress :)


  41. 41 | May 17, 2010 10:30 am

    @ spinmore:

    Plus the leadership of the GOP is Progressive like the Dems.


  42. vagabond trader
    42 | May 17, 2010 10:32 am

    @ RIX:

    Yeah,well hes a libral first,all the rest minor details.Besides,Obowma “means well.”


  43. daughter of patriots
    43 | May 17, 2010 10:34 am

    Lt. Col. West (US Army, retired) is running for Congress…a real straight talker. Citizen soldier, citizen patriot.

    “Until you get principled leadership in the United States of America that it willing to say that, we will continue to chase our tail. Because we will never clearly define who this enemy is and then understand it; their goals and objectives—which is on any jihadist website—and then come up with the right and proper goals and objectives to not only secure our Republic, but to secure Western civilization.”


  44. chickadee
    44 | May 17, 2010 10:35 am

    Ralph Peters is right that even if Israel somehow is taken over by the muzz, they won’t stop there content to go to work and build a civilized society for the well being of their citizens. They will still languish in anger and misery and most likely shit the place, as they have done in the Gaza. They will turn their beady scavenger eyes on us and any place that does not submit.

    Israel is NOT the problem.
    Islam is the problem.


  45. 45 | May 17, 2010 10:37 am

    Bob in Breckenridge wrote:

    PA TV is owned and controlled by the Palestinian Authority.

    Paid for with international welfare checks, some of which comes from the good old USA. We ought to cut the Palis off from every red American cent.


  46. vagabond trader
    46 | May 17, 2010 10:40 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    He11,Israel ought to cut them off. In what crazy universe does a sovereign nation provide for sworn enemies.


  47. chickadee
    47 | May 17, 2010 10:40 am

    daughter of patriots wrote:

    Lt. Col. West (US Army, retired) is running for Congress…a real straight talker. Citizen soldier, citizen patriot.

    “Until you get principled leadership in the United States of America that it willing to say that, we will continue to chase our tail. Because we will never clearly define who this enemy is and then understand it; their goals and objectives—which is on any jihadist website—and then come up with the right and proper goals and objectives to not only secure our Republic, but to secure Western civilization.”

    I love and admire this man. Notice he doesn’t need to read p.c words on . a prompter. He has nothing to hide. He is proud of what is in his heart. And eager to share it. We need this kind of courage so badly right now.


  48. 48 | May 17, 2010 10:42 am

    I really hope the eyes of the Jewish population have been opened. Obama and his sycophants are no friend of Israel.


  49. Nevergiveup
    49 | May 17, 2010 10:43 am

    robehren wrote:

    I really hope the eyes of the Jewish population have been opened. Obama and his sycophants are no friend of Israel.

    Don’t bet the ranch on that


  50. RIX
    50 | May 17, 2010 10:44 am

    BenZacharia wrote:

    @ teacake:
    Mosque to open on 9/11/11

    Our “Enlightened ” class think that it is amusing that there is outrage over this. In their world only knuckle draggers would object.
    They certainly can consult history, maybe Neville Chamberlin after
    meeting with the peace loving Hitler


  51. vagabond trader
    51 | May 17, 2010 10:44 am

    @ chickadee:

    They have valuable beach front property,plenty of sunshine so why haven’t they built a thriving little tourist industry and generate their own electricity via the sun.Lazy violent sobs.


  52. coldwarrior
    52 | May 17, 2010 10:44 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    robehren wrote:
    I really hope the eyes of the Jewish population have been opened. Obama and his sycophants are no friend of Israel.

    Don’t bet the ranch on that

    i wouldn’t bet on that either.

    i just dont understand liberal jews…i guess i never will


  53. spinmore
    53 | May 17, 2010 10:46 am

    @ chickadee:
    . . I’m afraid (like rodan says) the GOP ‘leadership’ is a big part of our problem. And I’m not 4 another party (we need 2 reform the GOP ala Ronald R).

    I can’t imagine the ‘Party’ pushing (backing) this guy (West); He probably scares them. He is in fact a true leader – U are right – we really need West and many more like him


  54. vagabond trader
    54 | May 17, 2010 10:48 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    i just dont understand liberal jews…i guess i never will

    Neither do or will some conservative ones.

    Then again why do so many Catholics blacks or Hispanics support the current crop of proggies. :D


  55. kansas
    55 | May 17, 2010 10:50 am

    They thought they had the support to tell the truth. I bet that doesn’t happen again. Truth for these guys doesn’t work out so well.


  56. 56 | May 17, 2010 10:50 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    You got that right. They should have laid seige to Gaza when they were shooting rockets (have they stopped, or have the MFM just stopped reporting it?). Cut off all food, power, water and see how long they last.


  57. Nevergiveup
    57 | May 17, 2010 10:51 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    robehren wrote:
    I really hope the eyes of the Jewish population have been opened. Obama and his sycophants are no friend of Israel.

    Don’t bet the ranch on that

    i wouldn’t bet on that either.

    i just dont understand liberal jews…i guess i never will

    Hey try having a whole host of them in your family?????


  58. 58 | May 17, 2010 10:53 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    Then again why do so many Catholics blacks or Hispanics support the current crop of proggies.

    In the case of Hispanics its the fact the American education system doesn’t teach us that at one time, we were the opressors and masters of the world. Instead they teach we are dirty little Brown people who are oppressed and need the Enlightened Progressive WHite man to save us. It creates low self esteem.

    With Catholics it’s the Liberation Theology that has infecte the Church with the calls for Social Justice.


  59. coldwarrior
    59 | May 17, 2010 10:53 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    who knows.

    it is impossible to be a catholic in good standing and support anyone who is for abortion, gay marriage, et cetera…yet some of the liberal church leaders look the other way. e.g. the bishops of boston and san fransisco, kennedy and pilosi’s diocese.

    this sort of move to the left in some circles and hypocrisy in other circles caused me to convert to orthodoxy, i have never looked back.


  60. 60 | May 17, 2010 10:54 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Cut off all food, power, water and see how long they last.

    War crime of course


  61. vagabond trader
    61 | May 17, 2010 10:55 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Last I read,Israel has an average of over 3,000 terror and or rocket threats every year.This is an interesting take on Liberal Jews.Depressing.

    http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2010/jun/10/failure-american-jewish-establishment/?pagination=false


  62. RIX
    62 | May 17, 2010 10:55 am

    Slightly off topic, I just heard a radio report regarding the financial
    crisis in Greece.
    The Greek government has now determined the guilty party & it’s not them, it’s us. They are blaming the U.S claiming that American banks caused all of their trouble.


  63. coldwarrior
    63 | May 17, 2010 10:56 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Nevergiveup wrote:
    robehren wrote:
    I really hope the eyes of the Jewish population have been opened. Obama and his sycophants are no friend of Israel.
    Don’t bet the ranch on that
    i wouldn’t bet on that either.
    i just dont understand liberal jews…i guess i never will

    Hey try having a whole host of them in your family?????

    you got lib-jews and i got a couple uncles on my mom’s side that are bible bashin’ first-zion-nazarene-church-of-the-third-reformed kkklansmen, so i guess we are even.

    i have been banned from family gatherings on my mom’s side :evil:


  64. coldwarrior
    64 | May 17, 2010 10:57 am

    RIX wrote:

    Slightly off topic, I just heard a radio report regarding the financial
    crisis in Greece.
    The Greek government has now determined the guilty party & it’s not them, it’s us. They are blaming the U.S claiming that American banks caused all of their trouble.

    heh…so that socialist govt they elected a few years ago is not at fault…right.


  65. chickadee
    65 | May 17, 2010 11:00 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ chickadee:

    They have valuable beach front property,plenty of sunshine so why haven’t they built a thriving little tourist industry and generate their own electricity via the sun.Lazy violent sobs.

    That is exactly right. Islam inspires the kind of hatred and bitterness that stops people from doing anything joyous.


  66. Nevergiveup
    66 | May 17, 2010 11:01 am

    Funny story. This Doc who has been in Navy less time than me- so maybe 1 1/2 year. After he went to DC O school, not to long ago, was telling me it made him feel worth while to wear the Uniform. Well he just got “tagged” last week to go spent a year at Camp Lejeune NC. I reminded him what he told after DCO school and we had a good laugh. I think they picked him because besides being an Internist, he is also a Cardiologist and he also works for a Hospital and is not in private practice.


  67. 67 | May 17, 2010 11:02 am

    @ RIX:

    Read that also.


  68. vagabond trader
    68 | May 17, 2010 11:02 am

    @ Rodan:

    The progs love designating victimhood. Keeps the voting block intact.


  69. 69 | May 17, 2010 11:03 am

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Hey try having a whole host of them in your family?????

    Leftists regardless of ethnicty are very closed and narrow minded.


  70. 70 | May 17, 2010 11:05 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    That’s why I rebelled when I was young. AT home I was taught my ancestors were conquerors and at one time where feared. At School I learned I was a worthless piece of shit.


  71. Nevergiveup
    71 | May 17, 2010 11:05 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Hey try having a whole host of them in your family?????

    Leftists regardless of ethnicty are very closed and narrow minded.

    And freaken annoying to boot


  72. Speranza
    72 | May 17, 2010 11:05 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ vagabond trader:
    You got that right. They should have laid seige to Gaza when they were shooting rockets (have they stopped, or have the MFM just stopped reporting it?). Cut off all food, power, water and see how long they last.

    I was saying that for the longest time.


  73. vagabond trader
    73 | May 17, 2010 11:07 am

    @ RIX

    lol,victim meet your victimizer. Yup, thats high style socialism.


  74. 74 | May 17, 2010 11:08 am

    @ Speranza:

    Israel should of destroyed Hamas when they had the chance. Israel is its own worse enemy sometimes. They care what people think about them. You would think nearly 2,000 years of persecutions and chased out of various countries would teach them to be be brutal and not give a crap.


  75. 75 | May 17, 2010 11:09 am

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Yup I once dated thsi chick when I lived on Long Island. Her family were Democrats, as you can guess the relationship didn’t last long.


  76. vagabond trader
    76 | May 17, 2010 11:11 am

    @ Rodan:

    Shook off the traditional leftist mold by walking the reality tightrope without a net. It worked.


  77. Eliana
    77 | May 17, 2010 11:12 am

    @ Rodan:

    Israel should of destroyed Hamas when they had the chance.

    Leftists were in charge of Israel at the time.

    Hamas seems to understand that they won’t get another chance to survive if Israel’s current right wing government goes after them.


  78. chickadee
    78 | May 17, 2010 11:12 am

    spinmore wrote:

    @ chickadee:
    . . I’m afraid (like rodan says) the GOP ‘leadership’ is a big part of our problem. And I’m not 4 another party (we need 2 reform the GOP ala Ronald R).

    I can’t imagine the ‘Party’ pushing (backing) this guy (West); He probably scares them. He is in fact a true leader – U are right – we really need West and many more like him

    I think the mfm is afraid of him.


  79. RIX
    79 | May 17, 2010 11:16 am

    coldwarrior
    64 | May 17, 2010 10:57
    heh…so that socialist govt they elected a few years ago is not at fault…right.

    Right none if it is the fault of Greek policies.
    It’s our fault & they are demanding a trillion dollars.
    No problem./


  80. 80 | May 17, 2010 11:17 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Thanks, Fist. FC said he had “repealed” them and that’s where I wanted further information. Also, Zero never asked Congress for these laws, a la the Stimulus, Obamacare, and others. He saw from Heller which way the wind blows and you’re spot on – he didn’t want a veto override. Zero would take every gun away from a private citizen if he could.

    Of course, he DOES want his civilian security force armed as well as the military, so doesn’t THAT make everyone feel more secure???


  81. RIX
    81 | May 17, 2010 11:17 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Read that also.

    Ridiculous, they sound like Obama.


  82. Eliana
    82 | May 17, 2010 11:18 am

    @ teacake:

    Barack Obama hosts his second state dinner on Wednesday for Mexican President Felipe Calderon

    and he just held a gala event for the Afghanistan president last week. Wonder if he plans something similar for Israel in the near future being they realized a mistake has been made. LOL YEah right

    Sickening, isn’t it?

    Netanyahu gets the bums rush (“I have to go upstairs to eat dinner now so you guys can fend for yourselves down here while I’m busy”) while Afghanistan and Mexico get state dinners.

    Zero’s message has come through LOUD AND CLEAR.


  83. chickadee
    83 | May 17, 2010 11:18 am

    RIX wrote:

    Slightly off topic, I just heard a radio report regarding the financial
    crisis in Greece.
    The Greek government has now determined the guilty party & it’s not them, it’s us. They are blaming the U.S claiming that American banks caused all of their trouble.

    LOL, and it has nothing to do with the fact that they followed an ideology that produced more “takers than makers.” That’s our fault.
    rofl


  84. RIX
    84 | May 17, 2010 11:19 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ RIX
    lol,victim meet your victimizer. Yup, thats high style socialism.

    Europe is an economic basket case & they have a serious Muslim problem.
    Yet they sit around & blame us.


  85. 85 | May 17, 2010 11:19 am

    As far as I’m concerned, the image of Zero’s staff ushering out the Dhali Llama out the servants’ entrance through the garbage was enough.


  86. 86 | May 17, 2010 11:22 am

    @ Eliana:

    Hamas seems to understand that they won’t get another chance to survive if Israel’s current right wing government goes after them.

    Yeah they are laying low. Hizballah on the other hand really thinks they are going to destroy Israel. Must be all that Hashish.


  87. vagabond trader
    87 | May 17, 2010 11:22 am

    @ RIX:

    This is what our future looks like under the present brand of commies. We had better take evasive action.


  88. spinmore
    88 | May 17, 2010 11:23 am

    @ chickadee:
    . . . more specifically – It’s Dubya’s fault :D


  89. 89 | May 17, 2010 11:23 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    They didn’t “screw up the message”. They were very clear. For once in their misbegotten lives they showed the world their unvarnished truth – they despise Israel. Obama himself is a not-too-well closeted anti-Semite. He may not parade around the Lincoln Bedroom in a Waffen SS uniform for shits and giggles, but if there were a Second Holocaust he wouldn’t shed a tear. And he certainly wouldn’t raise a hand to stop it from happening.

    Amen This bastard hates Christians as well.(great post sprereniz)


  90. chickadee
    90 | May 17, 2010 11:24 am

    Eliana wrote:

    @ teacake:

    Barack Obama hosts his second state dinner on Wednesday for Mexican President Felipe Calderon

    and he just held a gala event for the Afghanistan president last week. Wonder if he plans something similar for Israel in the near future being they realized a mistake has been made. LOL YEah right

    Sickening, isn’t it?

    Netanyahu gets the bums rush (“I have to go upstairs to eat dinner now so you guys can fend for yourselves down here while I’m busy”) while Afghanistan and Mexico get state dinners.

    Zero’s message has come through LOUD AND CLEAR.

    He is a petty mannerless low class pos who is so beneath the dignity of the office.
    He reminds me of a bitchy spoiled teenage girl. Not what we need in a potus.


  91. 91 | May 17, 2010 11:25 am

    Its no coincidence really that today’s troubles lead to one place. Scroll to the bottom to the lists of famous grads from Harvard.


  92. buzzsawmonkey
    92 | May 17, 2010 11:25 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Zero would take every gun away from a private citizen if he could.

    When he was in Chicago he was a good pfriend of pfathead pFather Pfleger, who is as anti-gun (as a stand-in for being anti-gang) as you can get.


  93. 93 | May 17, 2010 11:25 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    It was my Home, history books I read and a trip to Spain that made me see teh Racist lies of the Left.


  94. vagabond trader
    94 | May 17, 2010 11:26 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Did you see the latest episode of “bowing” to the Chinese?

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/05/026310.php


  95. 95 | May 17, 2010 11:27 am

    robehren wrote:

    I really hope the eyes of the Jewish population have been opened. Obama and his sycophants are no friend of Israel.

    Sad thing is, the same jews who voted for Urkle will vote for him again. Just like Wall Street kissed his arse after he savaged them.


  96. 96 | May 17, 2010 11:29 am

    @ Eliana:

    I hope you are right. I’ve been preaching that Israel should kill every member of Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, al Aqsa, etc. that they can. If possible, exterminate them down to the very last man. Don’t distinguish between the “Militant” wing and the “Less Militant” wing. Did we distinguish between Waffen SS and regular SS in WWII (and which was worse?)? Cut theom out root and branch. Leave none alive to mourn the dead.


  97. 97 | May 17, 2010 11:29 am

    Personally, I have always believed that Tim Leary began the re-educational programing with much help from the government by encouraging kids in the 60s that LSD was a very good thing. Getting to the children of the 60s generation was a lot easier because of that.


  98. 98 | May 17, 2010 11:30 am

    Gotta go now. c ya


  99. vagabond trader
    99 | May 17, 2010 11:31 am

    @ Rodan:

    Amazing what individual curiosity and motivation will reveal isn’t it?


  100. 100 | May 17, 2010 11:31 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Agree, I think Lebanon should be for Christians only. I would arm teh Christians and then have Israel and the Christians double team Hizballah. Then I would let the Christians deport the Lebanese Muslims back to Syria and Iraq.


  101. 101 | May 17, 2010 11:31 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    Plus having a Grandfather who knew I was being lied too.


  102. vagabond trader
    102 | May 17, 2010 11:32 am

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    He threatened to kill a gun shop owner,iirc. Nice.


  103. 103 | May 17, 2010 11:33 am

    I wrote this on the muslim pig woman’s page but I doubt it sees the light of day.

    *
    fortruthforloveforjustice says:
    May 16, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    My statement is very clear regarding genocide and killing, it speaks for itself. “Allow me to begin by stating that I do NOT condone murder, I do NOT condone genocide, and I do NOT condone racism under any circumstance whatsoever against Jews or anyone else.” My statement was also very clear in clarifying what my answer meant. Read it.
    Reply

    Grimcargo says:
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    May 17, 2010 at 11:50 am

    if not for video( and you are captured on video.)You might be able to squirm out of what you said. So put this in your brain backlog…AMERICA SUPPORTS ISRAEL!! Always have and always will. Those fringes matter not.

    http://fortruthforjustice.wordpress.com/2010/05/16/hello-world/#comment-28


  104. vagabond trader
    104 | May 17, 2010 11:35 am

    @ Rodan:

    You are fortunate,it is essential kids have family and friend mentors to counter lies told by government controlled media and schools.


  105. chickadee
    105 | May 17, 2010 11:36 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    As far as I’m concerned, the image of Zero’s staff ushering out the Dhali Llama out the servants’ entrance through the garbage was enough.

    That was disgraceful. zero did that because he knows the Dalai Lama has said that he admires and respects Pres. Bush. zero is so thin skinned he marched him out the servants door through the mounds of trash. And zero did not allow the Dalai Lama any photo ops with him.
    That is the tone of civility of the zero regime.


  106. 106 | May 17, 2010 11:37 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Zero would take every gun away from a private citizen if he could.

    Exactly. So would the Democrats, but even the most rabid of them can see the handwriting on the wall. 60-70% of the voters oppose gun control. Continuing to push the issue is a ticket to being in the minority. While I have speculated that the GOP leadership actually prefers to be in the minority, there can be no doubt that the Democrat leadership lusts to be the Monoply Party, but the Majority will do if they can’t enforce one-party rule.


  107. vagabond trader
    107 | May 17, 2010 11:37 am

    @ Grimcargo:

    She hasn’t approved many comments I see. lol, this blog will go the way of IR and defenseman.


  108. 108 | May 17, 2010 11:41 am

    @ Rodan:

    That works for me. As long as the Mohammedans keep Mohammedan lands under the rule of Islam and forbid the practice of other religions there, then I see no reason for us not to reciprocate and do unto them as they’ve done unto us.


  109. RIX
    109 | May 17, 2010 11:44 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ RIX:
    This is what our future looks like under the present brand of commies. We had better take evasive action.

    Vote early, vote often. If we get RINOS like McCain vote them out.
    Too many pols find us too common & think that we really don’t know what is best for us.


  110. Eliana
    110 | May 17, 2010 11:50 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    That works for me. As long as the Mohammedans keep Mohammedan lands under the rule of Islam and forbid the practice of other religions there, then I see no reason for us not to reciprocate and do unto them as they’ve done unto us.

    In the full video of the Muslims who attacked Lars Vilks in Sweden, some of the Muslims called out (shown in subtitles), “Sweden is our country, too!”

    Countries like Saudi Arabia won’t even give citizenship to Shia Muslims much less anyone who isn’t a Muslim at all.

    Western countries welcome Muslims and get spit in the face.


  111. 111 | May 17, 2010 12:05 pm

    Dems are running back to the Jewish vote just in time for the November elections. Sadly, Jews (such is their hatred for all things “the Right,”) will be running right back to the Dems.


  112. Speranza
    112 | May 17, 2010 12:07 pm

    Jesusland wrote:

    Dems are running back to the Jewish vote just in time for the November elections. Sadly, Jews (such is their hatred for all things “the Right,”) will be running right back to the Dems.

    Not this Jew.


  113. Eliana
    113 | May 17, 2010 12:08 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Not this Jew either.


  114. Speranza
    114 | May 17, 2010 12:41 pm

    Eliana wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Not this Jew either.

    Jews with sanity – what a surprise!


  115. 115 | May 17, 2010 12:47 pm

    @ Rodan:

    About those “loyal” Israel Arab/Muslims

    Did Arab/Muslim Member of Israeli Knesset Give 5 Diplomatic Passports to Terrorists?

    Arab MK Taleb A-Sanah of the Re’em Ta’al party claims to have lost his diplomatic passport five times in the past five years. Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman has ordered authorities not to grant him a new one.

    Foreign Ministry officials fear the diplomatic passports may have been used for illegal activities.

    Yea, just like the U.S.
    (not!)


  116. 116 | May 17, 2010 12:49 pm

    Just another reason why I prefer the “right wing” of Israel.

    Rahm Emanuel’s son’s Bar Mitzva won’t be at the Kotel

    White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel has reportedly cancelled plans to celebrate his sons bar mitzvah at the Kotel fearing protests by local Jews.

    Land of Israel activists Baruch Marzel and Itamar Ben Gvir recently sent Emmanuel a letter saying that “he who plans to force Israel to surrender the Kotel to foreign powers has no right to celebrate there.


  117. vagabond trader
    117 | May 17, 2010 12:56 pm

    @ WrathofG-d:

    Another reason why I prefer right wing Christian Zionists to a phony like Rahm Emanuel who would participate in the demise of Israel then have the chutzpah to celebrate at the Kotel.


  118. 118 | May 17, 2010 1:06 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    Yes, thank G-d for the “right wing Christian Zionists” as well. But when it comes to Israel, only the “far right wing” (who are constantly attacked and slandered) have the guts, and pride to stand up to hypocrites with chutzpah like Rahm.

    In other Israel news (you won’t be hearing about elsewhere because it doesn’t fit the Anti-Israel narrative):

    Hamas destroys dozens of homes in southern Gaza

    *notice that near the end of the article of Hamas unilaterally deciding to destroy homes, the writer goes out of his/her way to blame Israel.


  119. vagabond trader
    119 | May 17, 2010 2:29 pm

    @ WrathofG-d:

    Good for these Israeli men who speak the truth without fear. Emanuel reminds me of a friend who also wants to have her sons Bar Mitzvah at the Wall.The family has never showed anything but ambivalence toward Israel or the Jewish faith. Its all about making a fashion statement for these progs.


  120. texasam7
    120 | May 17, 2010 2:38 pm

    @ chickadee:
    I had no idea about the incident with the Dalai Lama. Was there any mention of it on any news network?


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