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Only morons, cheats and liars still believe in Man-Made Global Warming

by Bob in Breckenridge ( 199 Comments › )
Filed under Climate, Environmentalism at May 21st, 2010 - 4:00 pm

Here’s a great article about the human-caused global warming hoax, perpetuated by the likes of morons such as Algore and a certain 58 yr. old comic book reading, tricycle riding, washed-up ukulele playing, pony-tailed douchebag (whom shall remain nameless to avoid embarrassing her) from yesterday’s London Daily Telegraph…

By James Delingpole

Well of course I would write a headline like that having just spent the last three days in Chicago at the Heartland Institute’s 4th International Conference on Climate Change. This is the event the cackling, cloak-wearing, be-fanged AGW-denying community attends every year to glorify in their own evil. And naturally, in the wake of Climategate, a mood of uproarious triumphalism has prevailed as distinguished skeptical scientists, economists, and policymakers from around the world – Pat Michaels, Richard Lindzen, Ian Plimer, Bob Carter, Fred Singer.. you name them, they’re here – have gathered to dance on the smoldering ashes of the mythical beast ManBearPig.

Except we shouldn’t use that word “skeptic” any more. Richard Lindzen – Godfather of Climate Realism – told us so in one of the keynote addresses.

“Skepticism implies doubts about a plausible proposition,” he said. “Current global warming alarmism hardly represents a plausible proposition.” Not least, he pointed out, because the various activist scientists, greenies and government institutions pushing AGW theory have failed to “improve their case over 20 years.” So paper thin are the AGW movement’s arguments that pretty much the only defences left to them are desperate techniques like the appeal to authority (“the Royal Society believes in AGW and the Royal Society is, like, really old and distinguished, so AGW must be true”) and cheap slurs.

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  1. snork
    1 | May 21, 2010 4:04 pm

    So paper thin are the AGW movement’s arguments that pretty much the only defences left to them are desperate techniques like the appeal to authority (“the Royal Society believes in AGW and the Royal Society is, like, really old and distinguished, so AGW must be true”) and cheap slurs.

    Gee, I’ve never heard that kind of argument.


  2. 2 | May 21, 2010 4:17 pm

    I though it was nothing more than an appeal to authority all along. I mean, the only authorities that got to review any data were those who where of the same political bent,and everyone else had to accept it as just so.


  3. Eliana
    3 | May 21, 2010 4:20 pm

    @ Scott Madsen:

    I though it was nothing more than an appeal to authority all along. I mean, the only authorities that got to review any data were those who where of the same political bent,and everyone else had to accept it as just so.

    They adjusted their data to fit their agenda.


  4. vagabond trader
    4 | May 21, 2010 4:29 pm

    Heard the locals blathering about this being the warmest spring on record here in southern New England. Really? Just recently turned off the heat and it is finally time to put away the sweaters. What a crock.


  5. 5 | May 21, 2010 4:30 pm

    My next read, after “Courting Disaster” is Brian Sussman’s “Climategate.” I love his website: “debatemealgore.com.” I got a signed copy at the Pleasanton TEA Party and my photo with him. Okay, it’s not like getting face time with Mark Levin after Liberty and Tyranny was published, but I’ll take my claims to fame where I can get them.

    From what I understand, Brian’s book kicks the Goracle in the ass.


  6. snork
    6 | May 21, 2010 4:31 pm

    Sort of on topic, McIntyre has a rather long and muddy post here, which shows the incestuous relation between the climatati and Big Oil. The guy in charge of gulf deep water drilling operations, in particular, is part of the climate “team”. Which is why Chuck is wrong. BP will be fine, because they’re been blowing the right dicks for years.


  7. 7 | May 21, 2010 4:32 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    Indeed. We’re still going to work in coats here in Northern California and the Sierra got snow this week. It’s a week before effin’ Memorial Day -- we’re supposed to be on Lake Tahoe on a jet ski for goones’ sake.


  8. citizen_q
    8 | May 21, 2010 4:32 pm

    Eliana wrote:

    @ Scott Madsen:
    I though it was nothing more than an appeal to authority all along. I mean, the only authorities that got to review any data were those who where of the same political bent,and everyone else had to accept it as just so.
    They adjusted their data to fit their agenda.

    Which turns their statements into propaganda by perpetrating a fraud, not science.


  9. 9 | May 21, 2010 4:32 pm

    @ Eliana:

    That of course, and never producing their original field logs for a true independent peer review for any interested to do so.


  10. vagabond trader
    10 | May 21, 2010 4:34 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    we’re supposed to be on Lake Tahoe on a jet ski for goones’ sake.

    Sounds loverly,hope it warms up!


  11. Eliana
    11 | May 21, 2010 4:36 pm

    As I’ve mentioned before, I’m watching the local temperature do 30-50 degree leap frogs week after week (from day to night and sometimes from day to day) yet the wildlife and the insects seem to be surviving it.

    EVEN SO -- if the global average temperature goes up by a single degree over a long period of time, we’re all gonna die (sayeth the Algore and his ilk).


  12. Eliana
    12 | May 21, 2010 4:41 pm

    @ Scott Madsen:

    That of course, and never producing their original field logs for a true independent peer review for any interested to do so.

    Yeah.

    It would be funny if they weren’t bilking the developed countries out of billions (if not trillions) with this charade.


  13. citizen_q
    13 | May 21, 2010 4:42 pm

    @ Eliana:

    Isn’t Gore a major investor in a company that does something to facilitate carbon trading?


  14. citizen_q
    14 | May 21, 2010 4:43 pm

    @ Eliana:

    It is theft pure and simple.


  15. buzzsawmonkey
    15 | May 21, 2010 4:44 pm

    All I want is a room somewhere
    Far away from the cold night air
    With one enormous chair—ah, wouldn’t it be loverly?
    Lots of chocolates* for me to eat
    Lots of coal** makin’ lots of heat
    Warm face, warm hands, warm feet—ah, wouldn’t it be loverly?
    Oh, so loverly sittin’ abso-bloomin’-lutely still
    I would never budge ’til Spring
    Crept over me windowsill…

    —from “My Fair Lady”

    *chocolate: a non-locally grown food.

    **coal: a fossil fuel.


  16. Nevergiveup
    17 | May 21, 2010 4:46 pm

    The White House is standing behind Democratic Senate candidate Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut, who has acknowledged that he misspoke about his military service.

    So is Obama’s uncle. ya know the one who single handed liberated Treblinka, planted the flag on Iwo Jima, and drop the A Bomb on Hiroshama.


  17. Eliana
    18 | May 21, 2010 4:46 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Isn’t Gore a major investor in a company that does something to facilitate carbon trading?

    The carbon trading business (even when the credits aren’t being brokered by people who aren’t authorized to sell them) is a horrendous scam.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Gore is directly involved in this.


  18. buzzsawmonkey
    19 | May 21, 2010 4:48 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    The White House is standing behind Democratic Senate candidate Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut, who has acknowledged that he misspoke about his military service.

    Of course. Obama’s entire career has consisted of blowing smoke up voters’ asses, so why would he not stand behind someone who blew menthol?


  19. 20 | May 21, 2010 4:48 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Cheeky Bastards.

    I mean really, as a kid learning about the tennants of Communism as proposed by Lenin, namely that above all to achieve the International all ethics beyond the cause should be rejected, because the ends should justify the means; seemed as such a foreign abstaction that I would never expect to be implemented by decent fairplay let the facts and results speak Anglo-Saxons.

    Damn was I wrong, and it took me all of four years to realize it. It when I attended a pro marijuana ralley in 1976 and heard the Yippies speak that I went Yikes! WTF its real, these fuckers mean it, McCarthy was right and Life magazine is more than just pictures of distant things. By the time the No Nukes ralleys came on line I was astounded by the ignorance of peolple I knew that attended to earnestly make it all better.

    But, my own epiphany aside, that these people have climbed so far ans so many know none the better of their deciet and dark ambitions is just perturbing.

    That they are this far along and so ingrained in power structures frightens me knowing that their will have be a correction coming soon if indeed we are here at the behest of our Creator to create an ever advancing civilization.

    /ramble oh well


  20. BuddyG
    21 | May 21, 2010 4:48 pm

    This man made global warming nonsense is another example that scientific geniuses are not above obstinancy.

    Another example would be Fred Hoyle’s stubborn belief in the ‘steady state’ Universe.

    Scientists are only human.


  21. Speranza
    22 | May 21, 2010 4:48 pm

    Actually Porky is 57 not 58 (born April 13, 1953).


  22. RIX
    23 | May 21, 2010 4:49 pm

    Alright, I’m gone for 45 minutes on a conference call & SpaceJesus has
    split. Who scared hem away, cause you know he is really smart & stuff.


  23. Eliana
    24 | May 21, 2010 4:51 pm

    @ RIX:

    He slithered away in the direction of his master.


  24. RIX
    25 | May 21, 2010 4:54 pm

    Eliana wrote:

    @ RIX:
    He slithered

    away in the direction of his master.

    I actually get a laugh from him until he bashes the troops.
    That is not cool. Oh yeah & sees racism everywhere.


  25. chickadee
    26 | May 21, 2010 4:54 pm

    It is disgusting that radicals have infiltrated so much now: not just government but science, religious organizations, education, big business, NGO’s
    We have to examine everything going on now. We have our work cut out for us.
    These commies are in the minority, though. We are in the majority.
    We can shut them down and take back this country because their ponzi schemes and anti-American bullshit are not what most people want.


  26. 27 | May 21, 2010 4:55 pm

    @ Eliana:

    Evil near incarnate as possible.

    Bloodless murder and rape on a global scale.


  27. Nevergiveup
  28. coldwarrior
    29 | May 21, 2010 4:57 pm

    that ice-rattling liquid sound you hear is me making martinis.

    the bar is open, martinis, anyone?


  29. Nevergiveup
    30 | May 21, 2010 5:00 pm

    Ever notice how close Oberman is to Obama?


  30. chickadee
    31 | May 21, 2010 5:00 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    The White House is standing behind Democratic Senate candidate Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut, who has acknowledged that he misspoke about his military service.

    So is Obama’s uncle. ya know the one who single handed liberated Treblinka, planted the flag on Iwo Jima, and drop the A Bomb on Hiroshama.

    zero is the liar-n-chief. Lying is what he does best. Of course the immoral sob is going to back another liar.
    I don’t think zero has made the right judgment call on anything, ever, in his whole life.
    He makes all his decisions based on what is best for him.
    Too bad he is the kiss of death for others and that includes infants born alive.

    spit


  31. buzzsawmonkey
    32 | May 21, 2010 5:00 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    the bar is open, martinis, anyone?

    Iron Fist will take a Martini-Henry.


  32. coldwarrior
    33 | May 21, 2010 5:01 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    i’m sure he would!


  33. 34 | May 21, 2010 5:02 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Kids soccer game, then dinner out. Martinis after eight here.

    Though I will probably come home a few New Castles heavier from dinner.


  34. 35 | May 21, 2010 5:02 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Damn your good


  35. coldwarrior
    36 | May 21, 2010 5:03 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    i know its shabat for you tonight/tomorrow, but do check out the saturday morning lecture when you can


  36. snork
    37 | May 21, 2010 5:03 pm

    Well, we’re back on Rand Paul (#12) again…


  37. RIX
    38 | May 21, 2010 5:04 pm

    This article hits the target. The AGW crowd has lost the debate on the science. More than anything the onus of proof is on them & they failed.
    Now it’s about politics & trillions of dollars in public funds for an
    unproven theory.
    The very bankruptcy of their argument makes people like Chuck get hysterical & insulting.


  38. coldwarrior
    39 | May 21, 2010 5:04 pm

    @ Scott Madsen:

    a fine dinner accompaniment


  39. coldwarrior
    40 | May 21, 2010 5:05 pm

    snork wrote:

    Well, we’re back on Rand Paul (#12) again…

    is chucklehead johnsosn really up to 12?


  40. vagabond trader
    41 | May 21, 2010 5:05 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Well seeing that Hussein is 0-4 it isn’t such a bad thing he supports Blumenthal.


  41. Nevergiveup
    42 | May 21, 2010 5:07 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Well seeing that Hussein is 0-4 it isn’t such a bad thing he supports Blumenthal.

    The polls have him dropping like a rock


  42. RIX
    43 | May 21, 2010 5:07 pm
    snork wrote:

    Well, we’re back on Rand Paul (#12) again…

    Lawd have mercy, that boy is Craaaaaaaazy!
    Charles greatest scoop on this is that Ron Paul defended his son!
    The outrage!


  43. buzzsawmonkey
    44 | May 21, 2010 5:07 pm

    RIX wrote:

    This article hits the target. The AGW crowd has lost the debate on the science. More than anything the onus of proof is on them & they failed.
    Now it’s about politics & trillions of dollars in public funds for an
    unproven theory.

    It was obvious from the get-go that the whole AGW argument was an effort by the Left to trump the threat of terrorism with something even bigger; not merely a threat to the United States, but a threat to the very planet itself.

    Power politics at its most ugly, cynical, and bankrupt.


  44. vagabond trader
    45 | May 21, 2010 5:08 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    CT voters are notoriously apathetic. And stoopid. We’ll see.


  45. chickadee
    46 | May 21, 2010 5:09 pm

    Hannity just mentioned Pamela Geller and the Ground Zero mega-mosque. The iman behind this hellhole is a radical.
    Robert Spencer is on the radio show right now.


  46. mfhorn
    47 | May 21, 2010 5:10 pm

    If the Department of Homeland Security won’t process illegal immigrants referred by Arizona authorities, the state of AZ should just take ‘em where they’re wanted- California- and release them there.


  47. Nevergiveup
    48 | May 21, 2010 5:11 pm

    I just saw an ad they are running here in NJ for the “NEW” NJ Nets. Well we do have a RR for an owner now. That is Rich Ruskie for those of you not in the know.


  48. lobo91
    49 | May 21, 2010 5:12 pm

    Some interesting hidden camera footage shot along smuggling trails in Arizona:


  49. buzzsawmonkey
    50 | May 21, 2010 5:13 pm

    I would point out, yet again, that the volcanic eruption in Iceland—basically, the Earth-equivalent of a small zit on a teenager’s earlobe—shut down the entire continent of Europe for a week or so.

    And yet there are people who think that what we puny people do somehow trumps the Earth’s self-regulating mechanisms.


  50. vagabond trader
    51 | May 21, 2010 5:15 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    His opponenent for the D nomination,Merrick Alpert, was informed today the Ds don’t want him at the convention. Its Blumenthals show. This guy wasted Blumenthal in the one debate allowed. He is also a bona fide combat vet.Nice racket these commies have.


  51. RIX
    52 | May 21, 2010 5:16 pm

    buzzsawmonkey
    44 | May 21, 2010 17:07
    It was obvious from the get-go that the whole AGW argument was an effort by the Left to trump the threat of terrorism with something even bigger; not merely a threat to the United States, but a threat to the very planet itself.

    Power politics at its most ugly, cynical, and bankrupt.

    The hyperbole on the AGW Left is off of the charts.
    It’s about power & money, and then there are the true believer head
    cases.


  52. snowcrash
    53 | May 21, 2010 5:16 pm

    Buzz, just saw your updated “Draw Winky” parody at PJM for zombies EDMD article. Very, very nice! link for those who might have missed it
    http://pajamasmedia.com/zombie/2010/05/20/the-new-free-speech-movement/


  53. buzzsawmonkey
    54 | May 21, 2010 5:17 pm

    @ snowcrash:

    Thank you!


  54. justin case
    55 | May 21, 2010 5:23 pm

    well here in spain summer has just started, we have had no spring at all, i have had to wear a jumper untill 2 days ago.
    global warming my arse.


  55. snowcrash
    56 | May 21, 2010 5:24 pm

    Buzz, I think I knew you were an artist but this is the first I have seen of your work. I am very impressed.


  56. coldwarrior
    57 | May 21, 2010 5:25 pm

    justin case wrote:

    well here in spain summer has just started, we have had no spring at all, i have had to wear a jumper untill 2 days ago.
    global warming my arse.

    how are the sunsets with all that ash in the sky, they must be fantastic!


  57. RIX
    58 | May 21, 2010 5:25 pm

    Rand Paul Backing Out of ‘Meet The Press’

    Politics | Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:41:10 pm PDT

    News is going around Twitter that Rand Paul is now trying to cancel a Sunday appearance on Meet The Press that he committed to doing on Wednesday.

    He’s scared of … David Gregory?

    Nothing obsessive here, no way.
    CJ forgets that Obama dodged Fox for a long time & even tried to destroy the network.
    When that failed he agreed to go in in a controlled situation with Bret Baire & refused to tough questions. He just filibustered.


  58. lobo91
    59 | May 21, 2010 5:26 pm

    justin case wrote:

    well here in spain summer has just started, we have had no spring at all, i have had to wear a jumper untill 2 days ago.
    global warming my arse.

    We had what I hope was our last freeze a few nights ago.

    I still have to turn on the heat at night, though.


  59. snowcrash
    60 | May 21, 2010 5:26 pm

    @ lobo91:
    The litter and filth left behind is amazing. I had no idea.


  60. 61 | May 21, 2010 5:26 pm

    snork wrote:

    Well, we’re back on Rand Paul (#12) again…

    Check out Medaura in Contentions on Rand Paul. A horribly over-written piece saying essentially that conservatives should repudiate Rand if Rand does not repudiate the racism and other whackiness of Ron. If not, people who want fiscal discipline will not vote for them…
    Very like the Wally’s view: short of active, emphatic, repeated repudiation of racist etc. views expressed by other people, conservatives prove themselves to be racist etc. and do not deserve to win. They will defeat themselves!


  61. justin case
    62 | May 21, 2010 5:29 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    the shy sun has only come out in the last few days and now it’s getting warmer, it’s the worst year anyone can remember,
    as for the ash cloud, well there is nothing there to the naked eye.


  62. buzzsawmonkey
    63 | May 21, 2010 5:30 pm

    snowcrash wrote:

    Buzz, I think I knew you were an artist but this is the first I have seen of your work. I am very impressed.

    “Draw Mohammed” was not done in my usual style; it was intended to counterfeit the style of “Winky” or the pirate image which was another favorite in those ads. I used to do stuff in a more cartoon-like fashion—which, I may say, made me both admire and envy the quality of the drawing done by “Tadpole,” whoever s/he may be, which zombie also posted.

    BTW, there are sekrit snarks in the text of the “Draw Mohammed” ad! Can you find them?


  63. lobo91
    64 | May 21, 2010 5:30 pm

    snowcrash wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    The litter and filth left behind is amazing. I had no idea.

    Most people don’t. The show Border Wars on NatGeo has done a good job of showing what it’s like out there, too.

    Of course, they do the same thing on private lands they cross. It’s not just public land. They’ll cut fences in order to cross, and then people’s livestock get out, too.


  64. snowcrash
    65 | May 21, 2010 5:30 pm

    @ Overlook:
    Oh man, there is a name I hoped not to hear again. She had a combative style that made her very unpleasant to deal with.


  65. justin case
    66 | May 21, 2010 5:31 pm

    @ lobo91:
    but they will tell you it’s the warmest month on record since the stone age.


  66. coldwarrior
    67 | May 21, 2010 5:32 pm

    @ justin case:

    too bad, even in pennsylvania we had some great sunsets last year from an eruption in alaska.


  67. RIX
    68 | May 21, 2010 5:33 pm

    35 LudwigVanQuixote Fri, May 21, 2010 1:52:55pm
    It is only a matter of time before these nuts become violent. It is already starting in small ways.

    That is why it needs to be put down harshly, severely and immediately when they do get violent. If we let it spread, we have a much tougher fight down the road where even more will get killed.

    The paranoia is palpable over there. All of the violence is coming from
    the Left, but Ludwig is a afraid that Tea Party Grannies on walkers
    are coming for him.


  68. 69 | May 21, 2010 5:33 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Yep. EXACTLY six months older than me.


  69. lobo91
    70 | May 21, 2010 5:34 pm

    justin case wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    but they will tell you it’s the warmest month on record since the stone age.

    That’s one nice thing about our utility bills. There’s a handy graph on the back that shows your gas, electricity, and water usage over the past 12 months, so you can compare.

    If this has been the warmest spring ever, why did I use more gas this year than the same time last year?


  70. citizen_q
    71 | May 21, 2010 5:34 pm

    Howdy everyone, right now just a drive by apology.

    I was active earlier in the thread, and a hot work issue came up in what was a quiet afternoon. I have to take care of some things, but I will be back later.

    I also have to apologize about spacejiz. I was bored earlier, so I wandered to the swamp figuring it was about time I was banned there. I poked him in the eye, and he followed me here. A little surprising since I had a different nic there. I did mention my poor behavior here. He must be monitoring this blog actively for posts about him and or the swamp.


  71. vagabond trader
    72 | May 21, 2010 5:35 pm

    This is surreal. Cuba condemns AZ law.Every fckn commie and despot is chiming in here. Helluva job Hussein, they love ya.

    http://www.ktar.com/?sid=1296375&nid=46


  72. justin case
    73 | May 21, 2010 5:35 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    i dont get it, there must be a altitude limit for the ash, why dont they fly above or below it.


  73. lobo91
    74 | May 21, 2010 5:35 pm

    @ RIX:

    The paranoia is palpable over there. All of the violence is coming from
    the Left, but Ludwig is a afraid that Tea Party Grannies on walkers
    are coming for him.

    Oh, there’s going to be violence, all right.

    But it won’t be started by anyone on the left.


  74. lobo91
    75 | May 21, 2010 5:36 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Err, that should have been “won’t be started by anyone on the right,” obviously.


  75. 76 | May 21, 2010 5:37 pm

    The Royal Society and American National Academy should be recognized as branches of public employee unions. Jobs and money for members, not integrity of practice, are what they are about.


  76. snork
    77 | May 21, 2010 5:37 pm

    RIX wrote:

    The paranoia is palpable over there. All of the violence is coming from the Left, but Ludwig is a afraid that Tea Party Grannies on walkers are coming for him.

    The disturbing thing is that speculation about possible acts of violence become the basis for a harsh violent crackdown now. Sounds like Adolph what’s-his-face. Who’s the Nazi, Lud?


  77. vagabond trader
    78 | May 21, 2010 5:37 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Or sj is cj and the infamous correlator tool lojacked you. :-)


  78. justin case
    79 | May 21, 2010 5:38 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Chicken Casserole hankering. lol


  79. Nevergiveup
    80 | May 21, 2010 5:38 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    Err, that should have been “won’t be started by anyone on the right,” obviously.

    Fraudian slip? There are times……….


  80. snowcrash
    81 | May 21, 2010 5:38 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    The instructions are full of sly humor. My fav is a toss up between “preferred execution method” and an “artist intimidation and elimination program”. It is ALL good and I hope most of the article readers read the instructions. Congrats on tasteful participation in the event.


  81. coldwarrior
    82 | May 21, 2010 5:38 pm

    justin case wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    i dont get it, there must be a altitude limit for the ash, why dont they fly above or below it.

    you have to fly through it to land and takeoff.


  82. snork
    83 | May 21, 2010 5:39 pm

    @ citizen_q:
    Are you dead yet? If so, report to Coroner Kirly.


  83. huckfunn
    84 | May 21, 2010 5:39 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    This is surreal. Cuba condemns AZ law.Every fckn commie and despot is chiming in here. Helluva job Hussein, they love ya.
    http://www.ktar.com/?sid=1296375&nid=46

    Anytime you have Obowmao and the commies against you, it means you’re doing the right thing.


  84. father_of_10
    85 | May 21, 2010 5:40 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    **sigh** Another story that was pretty much ignored.
    http://www.examiner.com/x-14143-Orange-County-Conservative-Examiner~y2010m4d27-Scandal-Obama-Gore-Goldman-Joyce-Foundation-CCX-partners-to-fleece-USA

    I honestly think Beck is on a short list for elimination. These kinds of people have never hesitated tio make someone “disappear”.


  85. Nevergiveup
    86 | May 21, 2010 5:41 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    vagabond trader wrote:

    This is surreal. Cuba condemns AZ law.Every fckn commie and despot is chiming in here. Helluva job Hussein, they love ya.
    http://www.ktar.com/?sid=1296375&nid=46

    Anytime you have Obowmao and the commies against you, it means you’re doing the right thing.

    But it kinda catches your attention when Obami and the Commies are ALWAYS on the same side?


  86. buzzsawmonkey
    87 | May 21, 2010 5:41 pm

    snowcrash wrote:

    The instructions are full of sly humor. My fav is a toss up between “preferred execution method” and an “artist intimidation and elimination program”. It is ALL good and I hope most of the article readers read the instructions. Congrats on tasteful participation in the event.

    Thanks. Other items: The “Studio Number” is the date of the Battle of Lepanto. The fictitious address is the date of Mohammed’s death, on the nonexistent “Hez Boulevard”—with a genuine Dearborn, Michigan zip code.


  87. RIX
    88 | May 21, 2010 5:42 pm

    @ citizen_q:
    Don’t apologize for SpaceJesus, that’s a job for his patrents.


  88. lobo91
    89 | May 21, 2010 5:42 pm

    @ justin case:

    I don’t use gas for cooking, though.

    It’s only used for my water heater and the furnace, and the furnace only comes on when the outside temperature drops below 20 degrees (I have a hybrid system with a heat pump that works when it’s above 20).

    And I’m pretty sure I’m using less hot water than last year, because there were two of us here then. Now it’s just me and the dog, and she doesn’t take many showers.


  89. huckfunn
    90 | May 21, 2010 5:42 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    vagabond trader wrote:

    This is surreal. Cuba condemns AZ law.Every fckn commie and despot is chiming in here. Helluva job Hussein, they love ya.
    http://www.ktar.com/?sid=1296375&nid=46

    Anytime you have Obowmao and the commies against you, it means you’re doing the right thing.

    But it kinda catches your attention when Obami and the Commies are ALWAYS on the same side?

    I’m astounded but not surprised.


  90. 91 | May 21, 2010 5:43 pm

    Let’s see….North Korea sinks a South Korean ship; Arizonans are practically prisoners in their own state; our debt threatens to turn us into Greece; Zero kisses ass to every dictator in the world and appoints an unqualified marxist to the Supreme Court; the administrator at ICE won’t enforce federal law.

    And the boss of the Cracker Factory thinks Rand Paul is the greatest threat to the United States.


  91. vagabond trader
    92 | May 21, 2010 5:43 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Really, and I’ve been taken to the woodshed for calling him commie. Ha!!


  92. lobo91
    93 | May 21, 2010 5:43 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    Don’t apologize for SpaceJesus, that’s a job for his patrents.

    Assuming he had any.


  93. 94 | May 21, 2010 5:43 pm

    snowcrash wrote:

    @ Overlook:
    Oh man, there is a name I hoped not to hear again. She had a combative style that made her very unpleasant to deal with.

    She cannot easily reconcile her hatred of Serbs with what she knows to be the tolerant ethos of Commentary. Racism disguised as outrage at racism is her specialty. I think the Wally learned a lot from her.


  94. snork
    95 | May 21, 2010 5:44 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Don’t apologize for SpaceJesus, that’s a job for his patrents.

    But he’s such a sorry excuse…


  95. justin case
    96 | May 21, 2010 5:44 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    sorry you lost me. if the ash is at 30.000 ft why cant they fly at 20,000 ft untill they clear it, i will ask my friend, he is a pilot and will tell me straight if i am talking shite. lol


  96. 97 | May 21, 2010 5:44 pm

    @ RIX:

    I’m with Scott Madsen. I’m adopting a “Gazin’ in the grass” mentality when he’s here. Since they don’t do that at the Cracker Factory anymore, I’m sure, he’s two working synapses should be suitable confused.


  97. coldwarrior
    98 | May 21, 2010 5:44 pm

    for data…we have used less gas this spring than last. fwiw


  98. snowcrash
    99 | May 21, 2010 5:46 pm

    @ RIX:
    His first thought is put what down harshly, severely and immediately? Protest? Where are they thinking violence will come from? Seems to me the union thugs on the left will be and have been the first to get violent. I wont go to LGF so I need context. LOL. Ludwig is unstable.


  99. snork
    100 | May 21, 2010 5:46 pm

    @ Overlook:
    One of the funniest things I ever read at the swamp was Medusa talking about her mail-order climatology course. Seriously. Talk about self-love…


  100. coldwarrior
    101 | May 21, 2010 5:47 pm

    justin case wrote:

    why cant they fly at 20,000 ft untill they clear it,

    maybe noise abatement and engine efficiency…jets are…well they suck under 30k feet


  101. coldwarrior
    102 | May 21, 2010 5:48 pm

    justin case wrote:

    i will ask my friend, he is a pilot and will tell me straight if i am talking shite. lol

    he’ll probably go with what i said…that would be too easy an answer!


  102. lobo91
    103 | May 21, 2010 5:49 pm

    @ snowcrash:

    I know how I would have reacted to a mob of 500 SEIU thugs showing up on my front lawn, like they did at that banker’s house.

    There’s a reason I have a Mossberg 590…


  103. vagabond trader
    104 | May 21, 2010 5:49 pm

    Hussein and his flacks are stirring the pot in hopes of causing a race-class war.It is what his mentors and peers have been steeped in at their various academic ghettoes. I am convinced of this.


  104. RIX
    105 | May 21, 2010 5:49 pm

    snork
    77 | May 21, 2010 17:37
    The disturbing thing is that speculation about possible acts of violence become the basis for a harsh violent crackdown now. Sounds like Adolph what’s-his-face. Who’s the Nazi, Lud?

    You’re right. There is so much “Could happen” speculation without foundation. You know that the lefties want some kind of preemptive action.
    Obama thinks that there is too much information. He is very close to
    calling for prior restraint.


  105. snowcrash
    106 | May 21, 2010 5:50 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Just be thankful Obama is standing between you and the pitchforks. LOL


  106. RIX
    108 | May 21, 2010 5:51 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Hussein and his flacks are stirring the pot in hopes of causing a race-class war.It is what his mentors and peers have been steeped in at their various academic ghettoes. I am convinced of this.

    And General SpaceJesus will be right behind the troops, way, way behind.


  107. buzzsawmonkey
    109 | May 21, 2010 5:51 pm

    snork wrote:

    On topic: Pew poll: 2 of 3 Americans think Congressional action on climate change is not a priority

    Well, that pretty much guarantees they’ll Rahm through something awful.


  108. vagabond trader
    110 | May 21, 2010 5:51 pm

    @ snork:

    Since when does the opinion of most Americans matter?


  109. justin case
    112 | May 21, 2010 5:53 pm

    @ justin case:
    i dont know what happened there with the bold blue crap, it wernt me guv honest


  110. coldwarrior
    113 | May 21, 2010 5:53 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ snowcrash:
    I know how I would have reacted to a mob of 500 SEIU thugs showing up on my front lawn, like they did at that banker’s house.
    There’s a reason I have a Mossberg 590…

    you do use double ought buck for zombie head-shots on seiu’s zombies, right?

    thats what i like to use.


  111. vagabond trader
    114 | May 21, 2010 5:54 pm

    @ RIX:

    I suspect sj is cj. Did you read citizen_qs post? He went over to the swamp using his old nic and the thing followed him back here. Coincidence?


  112. lobo91
    115 | May 21, 2010 5:54 pm

    @ snork:

    Probably has some correlation to the fact that 2 out of 3 Americans are unemployed, underemployed, or are afraid they’ll become so.

    When you’re worried about losing your house, the possibility of a 1 degree temperature increase 100 years from now doesn’t seem all that important…


  113. snowcrash
    116 | May 21, 2010 5:54 pm

    @ snork:
    Mail order climate study? LOL She is full of it. She reminded me of the secret police in East Germany who had info files on people. She could always find some past quote and dredge it up to prove her point.


  114. coldwarrior
    117 | May 21, 2010 5:55 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    I suspect sj is cj.

    i have been screaming this!!!


  115. justin case
    118 | May 21, 2010 5:55 pm

    @ snork:
    when mandy manners said to a poster- what did you just say.


  116. snork
    119 | May 21, 2010 5:56 pm

    @ vagabond trader:
    MPD?


  117. vagabond trader
    120 | May 21, 2010 5:57 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Yeah he used the trusty correlator tool to track citizen q. If q gets the death ray we’ll know. :-)


  118. chickadee
    121 | May 21, 2010 5:57 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Some interesting hidden camera footage shot along smuggling trails in Arizona:

    Wow, we need to build that fence. NOW


  119. lobo91
    122 | May 21, 2010 5:57 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    you do use double ought buck for zombie head-shots on seiu’s right?

    thats what i like to use

    Of course.

    Although, this looks like it might be interesting, too. Haven’t seen it in stores, though.


  120. justin case
    123 | May 21, 2010 5:58 pm

    any smokers here that want to hear about something to change their lives.


  121. snork
    124 | May 21, 2010 5:58 pm

    Climatology, cosmetology, whatever…


  122. coldwarrior
    125 | May 21, 2010 5:59 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Yeah he used the trusty correlator tool to track citizen q. If q gets the death ray we’ll know.

    we got one of them too…


  123. huckfunn
    126 | May 21, 2010 6:00 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Obama thinks that there is too much information. He is very close to calling for prior restraint.

    He could be the first recipient of the medal for “courageous restraint”.
    BWWWAAAHAHAHAH


  124. chickadee
    127 | May 21, 2010 6:00 pm

    snowcrash wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    The litter and filth left behind is amazing. I had no idea.

    Why isn’t the Sierra Club and other lefty eco-progs crying out and beating their chest abt. this devastation of our beautiful desert?
    All that plastic trash will be there for a 1000 years.


  125. lobo91
    128 | May 21, 2010 6:01 pm

    @ justin case:

    I’m not entirely sure how it actually works. Supposedly, the heat pump is able to draw warmth out of the outside air, even when it’s cold outside, which it turns into heat for the house. Like an air conditioner in reverse, I guess. It actually works as an air conditioner, as well.

    When it gets below 20, it’s not efficient enough to work, though. Then the gas furnace comes on.


  126. snowcrash
    129 | May 21, 2010 6:02 pm

    @ snork:
    Cosmotology is good. We really do not talk about make up, hair and beauty enough around here. lol


  127. huckfunn
    130 | May 21, 2010 6:04 pm

    justin case wrote:

    any smokers here that want to hear about something to change their lives.

    Whatchagot?


  128. Nevergiveup
    131 | May 21, 2010 6:04 pm

    US, Egypt seek Mideast nuclear arms ban deal
    Move could eventually force Israel to scrap its atomic bomb arsenal, UN diplomats say
    Reuters
    Published: 05.21.10, 23:50 / Israel News
    The United States and Egypt are working to bridge differences on a proposed Middle East nuclear arms ban, an idea that could one day force Israel to scrap any atom bombs it has, UN diplomats say.

    So Obama and Egypt are working on a plan to get rid of Israel’s Nukes? What could possibly go wrong?


  129. snowcrash
    132 | May 21, 2010 6:04 pm

    @ chickadee:
    Not to mention the uh, uh… wet bio hazard material left in the dry arroyos.


  130. justin case
    133 | May 21, 2010 6:04 pm

    johnsons correlator tool is just a folder on his desktop with loads of ip addresses in and when he trys to put a new one in he is asked if he wants to over write the same one, and then he knows it’s a sock. bullshit, like him.


  131. RIX
    134 | May 21, 2010 6:06 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ RIX:
    I suspect sj is cj. Did you read citizen_qs post? He went over to the swamp using his old nic and the thing followed him back here. Coincidence?

    You really think that they are the same, huh?
    I have a theory, there is no Jimmah. It’s Weasels male alter ego.
    She corrected a post one time saying that she inadvertently posted as Jimmah. She claimed that they were sharing one computer.
    I think that she just has two accounts.


  132. justin case
    135 | May 21, 2010 6:09 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    vaping, same as smoking, but a quarter of the price and your health is not in danger. and it actually works,


  133. vagabond trader
    136 | May 21, 2010 6:09 pm

    @ chickadee:

    Wow, we need to build that fence. NOW

    A mile wide moat would help too. I’ve been on this reservation, it was pristine and breaks my heart to see what is being done to it.Shows how much the asshole in chief cares about our own native population.


  134. RIX
    137 | May 21, 2010 6:10 pm

    huckfunn
    126 | May 21, 2010 18:00
    He could be the first recipient of the medal for “courageous restraint”.
    BWWWAAAHAHAHAH

    Do you think that the Dear Leaders Secret Service detail is
    being told to show ‘Courageous Restraint”?
    I don’t think so.


  135. lobo91
    138 | May 21, 2010 6:10 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    From your link:

    The US efforts to secure a deal with Egypt and other Arab countries reflect Washington’s concern to win their backing for sanctions against Iran over its nuclear program by offering a concession over US ally Israel, even though Washington says such a ban is impossible without peace in the Middle East.

    So their plan is to somehow force Israel to give up its weapons, in order to get the Arabs to back new sanctions against Iran (which everyone knows won’t actually do anything).

    Do they have random drug testing at the UN?


  136. huckfunn
    139 | May 21, 2010 6:12 pm

    justin case wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    vaping, same as smoking, but a quarter of the price and your health is not in danger. and it actually works,

    I’ve seen ads for that. Hmmm. I’m in my second iteration of Chantix right now and I’m still sneakin an occasional cig. BTW, did you know that Marlboro Lights now has your picture on the pack? :wink:


  137. snowcrash
    140 | May 21, 2010 6:12 pm

    @ vagabond trader:
    We have the mile wide moat,the Rio Grande in TX. Doesn’t help during the dry season.


  138. lobo91
    141 | May 21, 2010 6:12 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    A mile wide moat with alligators in it, maybe.


  139. waldensianspirit
    142 | May 21, 2010 6:13 pm

    I want the Census worker and the two police persons charged with murder 1 for murdering this poor woman. If this is according to policy I want the head of the Census Bureau also brought up on murder charges.


  140. lobo91
    143 | May 21, 2010 6:13 pm

    Or sharks with frickin’ laser beams…


  141. vagabond trader
    144 | May 21, 2010 6:14 pm

    @ RIX:

    My thoughts just opposite roles. Jimmah showed up first so I’m thinking IW is the sock.Sick fuggers any way you look at it.


  142. snowcrash
    145 | May 21, 2010 6:14 pm

    @ lobo91:
    LOL that always cracks me up.


  143. RIX
    146 | May 21, 2010 6:15 pm

    I just went over to see what the Hive is buzzing about.
    I won’t bore you with details, but nobody can ever be the
    craziest person in a room while Ludwig is in it.


  144. vagabond trader
    147 | May 21, 2010 6:15 pm

    @ lobo91:
    @ lobo91:

    Was going to add something like that but didn’t want to overstate as I’m wont to do. :mrgreen:


  145. lobo91
    148 | May 21, 2010 6:18 pm

    At least Shelties with laser pointers…


  146. justin case
    149 | May 21, 2010 6:18 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    lol. old justin the reaper. seriously there are 3 packs per day for 30 years people that have stopped smoking cigs after getting their e cig.
    and within a couple of weeks their health is getting better. this is the best thing for hard core smokers since sliced bread.


  147. NoThreat2U
    150 | May 21, 2010 6:19 pm

    justin case wrote:

    any smokers here that want to hear about something to change their lives.

    Sure. I could use the incentive to help me quit.


  148. vagabond trader
    151 | May 21, 2010 6:19 pm

    @ snowcrash:

    Bet you don’t have an electric fence on the US side. :twisted:


  149. lobo91
    152 | May 21, 2010 6:20 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    I want the Census worker and the two police persons charged with murder 1 for murdering this poor woman. If this is according to policy I want the head of the Census Bureau also brought up on murder charges.

    If the woman advanced on cops while pointing a shotgun at them and refused to put it down, no prosecutor in the country would charge the cops.


  150. huckfunn
    153 | May 21, 2010 6:22 pm

    @ justin case:
    Have you used it?


  151. vagabond trader
    154 | May 21, 2010 6:22 pm

    @ lobo91:

    My question is WT he11 were census workers doing there at night. They would not receive a friendly reception on my road either.


  152. waldensianspirit
    155 | May 21, 2010 6:23 pm

    @ lobo91:
    In her house? What business did they have shooting her to death? They could have turned and walked away. But they and the census worker were going to “win”. So they murdered her.


  153. snowcrash
    156 | May 21, 2010 6:23 pm

    @ vagabond trader:
    Electric fence? Tell me more. LOL


  154. justin case
    157 | May 21, 2010 6:23 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:
    http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1299681.html
    have a read of this thread and then buy a one use e cig, and then your life will change.


  155. RIX
    158 | May 21, 2010 6:24 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ RIX:
    My thoughts just opposite roles. Jimmah showed up first so I’m thinking IW is the sock.Sick fuggers any way you look at it.

    Interesting, so Weasel is Jimmahs alter ego? You are right ,it’s sick however you look at it. They would always turn up at the same time , even if the Atlantic Ocean was supposedly separating them.
    Trader, I will give this some serious thought later while enjoying
    a refreshing adult beverage.


  156. vagabond trader
    159 | May 21, 2010 6:25 pm

    @ snowcrash:

    Lets just say them thar illegals are lucky I’m not potus.This situation could be dealt with in an expedient humane manner after the initial “shock.”


  157. justin case
    160 | May 21, 2010 6:25 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    yep same as all the others, i havent had a normal cig since my first vape it’s that good.


  158. lobo91
    161 | May 21, 2010 6:25 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    My question is WT he11 were census workers doing there at night. They would not receive a friendly reception on my road either.

    That’s an entirely different question.

    But pointing a shotgun at uniformed cops who have identified themselves is a bad idea.


  159. chickadee
    162 | May 21, 2010 6:26 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ chickadee:

    Wow, we need to build that fence. NOW

    A mile wide moat would help too. I’ve been on this reservation, it was pristine and breaks my heart to see what is being done to it.Shows how much the asshole in chief cares about our own native population.

    zero and the rest of these radicals care more abt. power and votes than the environment.
    It is just unconscionable how much damage these illegals are doing to a pristine fragile environment and none of the fcking greens are saying a word. They are such evil bastards. They don’t give a damn.


  160. huckfunn
    163 | May 21, 2010 6:26 pm

    justin case wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    yep same as all the others, i havent had a normal cig since my first vape it’s that good.

    I appreciate the info. How long have you been quit from cigs?


  161. vagabond trader
    164 | May 21, 2010 6:26 pm

    @ RIX:

    ummm ummm ummm. Always a welcome enhancement for ones thought processes. :-)


  162. NoThreat2U
    165 | May 21, 2010 6:27 pm

    @ justin case:
    I would definitely use one.


  163. lobo91
    166 | May 21, 2010 6:27 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    I really hope you aren’t a gun owner.

    For your own safety.


  164. waldensianspirit
    167 | May 21, 2010 6:29 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Fuck you


  165. lobo91
    168 | May 21, 2010 6:30 pm

    @ chickadee:

    It is just unconscionable how much damage these illegals are doing to a pristine fragile environment and none of the fcking greens are saying a word. They are such evil bastards. They don’t give a damn.

    That’s because the “green” movement in America is run by “watermelons”: green on the outside, red on the inside.


  166. Nevergiveup
    169 | May 21, 2010 6:30 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    If the woman advanced on cops while pointing a shotgun at them and refused to put it down, no prosecutor in the country would charge the cops.

    No put if she is afganie and they are 2 Marines, ya better get the Jags up in the bullpen?


  167. justin case
    170 | May 21, 2010 6:30 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    two weeks but i still take in the nicotene, except its safe now because the 4000 cancer causing crap is not in the vapor.
    look at this site its the american place to buy your stuff.
    http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.com/


  168. lobo91
    171 | May 21, 2010 6:31 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Fuck you

    I don’t recommend saying that to cops, either.

    Although they probably won’t shoot you for it.


  169. RIX
    172 | May 21, 2010 6:32 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Err, that should have been “won’t be started by anyone on the right,” obviously.
    </blockquote

    >
    Not those nice men from SEIUI?


  170. RIX
    173 | May 21, 2010 6:32 pm
    lobo91 wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Err, that should have been “won’t be started by anyone on the right,” obviously.
    </blockquote

    >
    Not those nice men from SEIU?


  171. lobo91
    174 | May 21, 2010 6:33 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    No put if she is afganie and they are 2 Marines, ya better get the Jags up in the bullpen?

    No doubt.


  172. RIX
    175 | May 21, 2010 6:34 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ RIX:
    ummm ummm ummm. Always a welcome enhancement for ones thought processes.

    Yup, works for me. Heck, I’m going to have it on the deck & fire up
    a cigar. Life is good.


  173. NoThreat2U
    176 | May 21, 2010 6:35 pm

    @ lobo91:
    *snicker*


  174. justin case
    177 | May 21, 2010 6:35 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:
    trust me, just try one, it will change your life. read what other people are saying, it really is what smokers have been waiting for.


  175. huckfunn
    178 | May 21, 2010 6:35 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    My question is WT he11 were census workers doing there at night. They would not receive a friendly reception on my road either.
    That’s an entirely different question.

    But pointing a shotgun at uniformed cops who have identified themselves is a bad idea.

    I read that story and I think that was a case of “suicide by cop”, intended or not. Anybody who walks up on me with in an unfriendly manner and a shotgun will get ventilated. And I’m not even a cop.


  176. waldensianspirit
    179 | May 21, 2010 6:40 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:
    A poor woman is dead over Census data completeness and you snicker? They could have just walked away and got the data another way


  177. NoThreat2U
    180 | May 21, 2010 6:44 pm

    @ justin case:
    First chance I get I will buy one. I really need to quit. It is to expensive and it makes everything stink. Thanks for the link :)

    @ waldensianspirit:
    I was only snickering at his comeback. I don’t find anything funny about the circumstances. Lighten up.


  178. lobo91
    181 | May 21, 2010 6:44 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    If you read the story, it says the guy who answered the door was armed, as well. Notice that they didn’t shoot him. Why? Because he wasn’t pointing his weapon at them in a threatening manner.

    Aorry, but the only time you’re legally justified in pointing a gun at someone is in self defense. Self defense doesn’t apply in contact with law enforcement.


  179. yenta-fada
    182 | May 21, 2010 6:45 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ snork:
    Probably has some correlation to the fact that 2 out of 3 Americans are unemployed, underemployed, or are afraid they’ll become so.
    When you’re worried about losing your house, the possibility of a 1 degree temperature increase 100 years from now doesn’t seem all that important…

    Very sorry to hear you are in the position of losing your home. We have been withdrawing our retirement savings to pay current expenses for the past decade. I am CONVINCED that this money will be confiscated by the government at some point. Or, at the least, you won’t be able to get at it easily. We have paid the requisite taxes upon withdrawal. Those tax rates are likely to go up as well. We did buy gold and silver stocks in 2000 and traded a few as we went along. That allowed us to maintain the capital to make some $$$ on. NOBODY should be in the stock market according to Richard Russell of “Dow Theory Letters” He runs a time-honored and expensive newsletter, and is screaming for his clients to get out of the stock market and put their money into cash and gold. If you have retirement savings, think about how generous this administration is with your money and think twice about whether or not those funds will be available to you when you want them. not investment advice, do your own due diligence, etc. etc.


  180. lobo91
    183 | May 21, 2010 6:49 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ NoThreat2U:
    A poor woman is dead over Census data completeness and you snicker? They could have just walked away and got the data another way

    No, the woman is dead because she threatened cops who were performing their duty.

    It has nothing whatsoever to do with the Census. The cops were there because a crazy woman pointed a gun at someone who knocked on her door. Why she knocked on the door is irrelevant.

    How do I know she was crazy? Because she then pointed the same gun at the cops who came to investigate the first incident.


  181. waldensianspirit
    184 | May 21, 2010 6:52 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Well they can subtract the count of who lives there by one and their data will be correct.


  182. huckfunn
    185 | May 21, 2010 6:52 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    If you read the story, it says the guy who answered the door was armed, as well. Notice that they didn’t shoot him. Why? Because he wasn’t pointing his weapon at them in a threatening manner.

    Aorry, but the only time you’re legally justified in pointing a gun at someone is in self defense. Self defense doesn’t apply in contact with law enforcement.

    My point exactly.


  183. Aussie Infidel
    186 | May 21, 2010 6:59 pm

    Beware to rust of socialism never sleeps. NOW there is a proposed ‘Committee’ of true believers that are going to ‘review’ (I use that word advisedly) the whole IPCC scam. Would you believe an ECONOMIST is going to chair it. (Now that says a lot) and there are handpicked experts who all believe in AGW.

    Now that should work? Yeah Riiiight!

    There socialist globalist scam merchants just won’t lay down. Time to drive the stake of truth through their black socialist hearts once and for all.

    Take a look at their machinations :-

    http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/03/12-experts-to-review-u-n-climate-panels-work/


  184. waldensianspirit
    187 | May 21, 2010 6:59 pm

    Mean while back at headquarters the data is getting all fouled up beyond all recognition.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36972844

    Data, data, data and very little to show for it.


  185. lobo91
    188 | May 21, 2010 7:01 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    And it’s not as though I’m some anti-gun type. Earlier on this very thread I said that I’d greet a mob of SEIU people on my lawn with a shotgun of my own, which is in a closet about 10 feet from where I’m sitting at the moment. I also have a concealed carry permit.

    This kind of thing is actually why I don’t like the idea of Arizona’s other new law, allowing permitless concealed carry. At least with a permit, you have to sit through a class where they tell you when you can and can’t shoot someone.

    I’m pretty sure they mention the fact that cops fall into the “don’t shoot” category.


  186. waldensianspirit
    189 | May 21, 2010 7:04 pm

    And from the data they’ll calculate to only spend up to 21 trillion instead of break the people’s backs with a 23 trillion dollar debt.


  187. snork
    190 | May 21, 2010 7:05 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    I want the Census worker and the two police persons charged with murder 1 for murdering this poor woman. If this is according to policy I want the head of the Census Bureau also brought up on murder charges.

    First of all the Census Bureau didn’t shoot anybody. They do this stuff in the evenings, but not after dark, because that’s when they can find people at home. They show up with a big lanyard holding a large identification card, and a handbag that’s marked on one side with the Bureau insignia. they don’t lurk around in the dark, and this one wasn’t shot at, so so far, there’s no incident.

    The question is, why did the police approach the place? I don’t believe that it’s illegal to brandish a shotgun in one’s own home, but you’d have to check local law. If anybody has anything to answer for, it’s the local cops. We’ll see how this works out.


  188. waldensianspirit
    191 | May 21, 2010 7:10 pm

    @ snork:
    I know local cops in my area who would have defused the whole situation readily. They’d have given the poor lady help and let her know they are there to help her evening turn around and they’d have had someone talk the census worker down. Then they’d use capable neighbors to resolve it later.


  189. lobo91
    192 | May 21, 2010 7:11 pm

    @ snork:

    The question is, why did the police approach the place? I don’t believe that it’s illegal to brandish a shotgun in one’s own home, but you’d have to check local law. If anybody has anything to answer for, it’s the local cops. We’ll see how this works out.

    The cops approached the place becasue their dispatcher sent them there, with the usual minimal information they get on calls. Without hearing the 911 call from the Census worker, who knows what she told them?

    The cops were just doing their job. If the crazy woman hadn’t pointed a shotgun at them, they probably would have finished talking to the other guy and said “You folks probably shouldn’t answer your door holding a shotgun in the future,” and left.


  190. yenta-fada
    193 | May 21, 2010 7:11 pm

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    That headline had two dirty words in it: ‘United Nations’ When those two words appear together, run away screaming. I’m okay with the two words in other contexts.


  191. waldensianspirit
    194 | May 21, 2010 7:11 pm

    And the census count would be ###,###,###+1.


  192. Aussie Infidel
    195 | May 21, 2010 9:07 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    That headline had two dirty words in it: ‘United Nations’ When those two words appear together, run away screaming. I’m okay with the two words in other contexts.

    You’ve got it!

    Even some supposedly conservative (covert RINOs) believe in One World Government where the population will be reduced to half a billion, one way or another!

    In NZ we have a sometimes conservative government. That is when we talk finance. On everything else they are communitarian social liberals. I know a Cabinet Minister very well and he confided in me that 2/3 of the so-called conservative Cabinet believes in rule by an unelected World Elite as do 50% of the cacus.

    Makes one’s skin crawl.

    For 40+ years we have had the choice of voting ‘conservative -socialist’ OR ‘socialist -- conservative.’

    Tweedledum and Tweedee progressivism.

    I used to wonder why nothing ever seemed to work. NOW I KNOW!

    Time for the folks to seize control again and make the politicians do OUR BIDDING!


  193. Aussie Infidel
    196 | May 21, 2010 9:08 pm

    cacus = caucus!

    When will I ever learn to use the preview????? :(


  194. kansas
    197 | May 21, 2010 9:27 pm

    Let’s change the subject to…………..Rand Paul.


  195. orangecrush
    198 | May 21, 2010 10:33 pm

    @ 53 snowcrash :P retty good stuff there Zombie and Buzz. I need to forward the link to the local news reporters.


  196. orangecrush
    199 | May 21, 2010 10:34 pm

    @ 53 snowcrash: This is the type of lost info at 1.0 that makes 1.0 a shadow.


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