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Zogby poll: Most self-described democrats and/or liberals flunk basic economics badly

by Bob in Breckenridge ( 90 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Democratic Party, Economy, Misery Index, Polls, Progressives, Republican Party at June 10th, 2010 - 9:00 am

No wonder we’re f**ked. These are the friggin’ ignorant morons who are “leading” us right down the economic crapper. From the Wall Street Journal-

Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?
Self-identified liberals and Democrats do badly on questions of basic economics.

By DANIEL B. KLEIN

Who is better informed about the policy choices facing the country—liberals, conservatives or libertarians? According to a Zogby International survey that I write about in the May issue of Econ Journal Watch, the answer is unequivocal: The left flunks Econ 101.

Zogby researcher Zeljka Buturovic and I considered the 4,835 respondents’ (all American adults) answers to eight survey questions about basic economics. We also asked the respondents about their political leanings: progressive/very liberal; liberal; moderate; conservative; very conservative; and libertarian.

Rather than focusing on whether respondents answered a question correctly, we instead looked at whether they answered incorrectly. A response was counted as incorrect only if it was flatly unenlightened.

[...]

How did the six ideological groups do overall? Here they are, best to worst, with an average number of incorrect responses from 0 to 8: Very conservative, 1.30; Libertarian, 1.38; Conservative, 1.67; Moderate, 3.67; Liberal, 4.69; Progressive/very liberal, 5.26.

[...]

The survey also asked about party affiliation. Those responding Democratic averaged 4.59 incorrect answers. Republicans averaged 1.61 incorrect, and Libertarians 1.26 incorrect.

Read the rest: Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?

And on a somewhat related note, Obama gets pwned by Sgt. Joe Friday…

A tip of the hat to Denny, the grouchy old cripple himself!

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90 Responses to “Zogby poll: Most self-described democrats and/or liberals flunk basic economics badly”
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  1. mfhorn
    1 | June 10, 2010 9:09 am

    That poll doesn’t surprise me at all. Too bad it won’t make national news like one that made Republicans/conservatives look ‘unenlightened’ would.


  2. huckfunn
    2 | June 10, 2010 9:16 am

    Realizing that many of our leaders and their constituents are economically unenlightened sheds light on the troubles that surround us.

    Truer words were never spoken. Or is that “spoken words were never truer?” I’ve always gotten those 2 mixed up.

    Hey Bob. You’ve got a PIMF bust on the last line. Obama gets pwned by Sgt. Joe Friday… Joe would have you in irons. :grin:


  3. vagabond trader
    3 | June 10, 2010 9:17 am

    In all fairness how do we expect people to learn anything of value if they are given this safety net:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/how_do_you_pass_ny_school_tests_tCqFKo40FhcwkO5SoPYWRI


  4. 4 | June 10, 2010 9:21 am

    No surprise to me. From what I have seen of leftist parties in power in my life they always seem to tax and spend, tax and spend, and tax some more. Rarely do you see good economic times under their power. In fact the only time you do see growth is when they assume some conservative fiscal policies in their budgets.


  5. huckfunn
    5 | June 10, 2010 9:26 am

    @ vagabond trader:
    Hey VT. You’re dribblin’ off the page.


  6. vagabond trader
    6 | June 10, 2010 9:30 am

    @ PaladinPhil:

    Unfortunately most Rs do not practice fiscal conservatism either.The entire congress has been on a spending orgy for the last 15 years or more.Many of them still do not get it.


  7. vagabond trader
    7 | June 10, 2010 9:31 am

    @ huckfunn:

    lol,I know,cannot work that linky thing. Tried and tried. Sorry for the mess, credit for trying? :-)


  8. texasam7
    8 | June 10, 2010 9:36 am

    Even if a liberal admitted to making a few mistakes, he/she (musn’t assume!) would assert that their intentions are pure and it’s all about the feelings, anyway, because after all, numbers are just so COLD!


  9. huckfunn
    9 | June 10, 2010 9:40 am

    @ vagabond trader:
    I am full of patience and compassion this morning, so here is the explanation one more time.

    In this text box, type what we will see, what you want us to click. Highlight it.
    Go to the open page that you want to link to and highlight/copy the URL in the address bar.
    Return to this page. Click on the “link” button above.
    A text box will pop up that says “http://”. Put your cursor on that, right click and hit “paste”. Then you should be good to go.

    You can then hit the PIMF! button to see if it works. When I was trying to learn it, I would go back a few threads to practice. Good luck!


  10. huckfunn
    10 | June 10, 2010 9:43 am

    I gotta start working on work.

    Later.


  11. mfhorn
    11 | June 10, 2010 9:50 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    No argument there. We need a lot fewer professional politicians, and a lot more men & women who have been out in the real world, met budgets, hired/fired people, made business plans, worked in hospitals & nursing homes, ministered to people, volunteered at schools and animal shelters and other day to day activities, instead of living in some ivory tower, above the concerns of average Americans.


  12. vagabond trader
    12 | June 10, 2010 9:53 am

    @ huckfunn:

    Thank you huck! :D


  13. 13 | June 10, 2010 9:58 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    Unfortunately most Rs do not practice fiscal conservatism either.

    Agreed although the Republicans pay lip service to Conservatism, in reality they govern like Progressives. Rockerfeller Republicanism and Compassionate Conservatism.


  14. taxfreekiller
    14 | June 10, 2010 10:00 am

    Hi,

    Every thing SoSo today on lgf’s 2.0?


  15. taxfreekiller
    15 | June 10, 2010 10:01 am

    http://www.blowoutcongress.com

    or

    Any way you chose, just fight back.


  16. Nevergiveup
    16 | June 10, 2010 10:01 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ vagabond trader:

    Unfortunately most Rs do not practice fiscal conservatism either.

    Agreed although the Republicans pay lip service to Conservatism, in reality they govern like Progressives. Rockerfeller Republicanism and Compassionate Conservatism.

    Not really. Yes Rockerfeller Republicanism and Compassionate Conservatism may govern like Liberals sometimes, and that ain’t good. But Progressives govern like Communists all the time, and that’s worse.


  17. taxfreekiller
    17 | June 10, 2010 10:04 am

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Yes, example, Obama vs McCain.

    Staying home and not voteing is not the choice, in fact, it was a vote for Obama in the end.

    IMHO


  18. 18 | June 10, 2010 10:05 am

    i was out and about all day yesterday and every single talk show host was talking about this. it was hilarious. unfortunately, the hilarity dies out when you realize these idiots are in control of everything from the highest levels of not just our government but the governments of most of the countries in the world, the education system again, the world over, etc. we’re doomed.


  19. taxfreekiller
    19 | June 10, 2010 10:05 am

    ps

    Glen Beck is a freak.


  20. taxfreekiller
    20 | June 10, 2010 10:08 am

    Has Space Juice gone away or is it just a reprive?


  21. 21 | June 10, 2010 10:08 am

    @ mfhorn:
    I think somehow we should make running for office a duty. Along with strict term limits. Make it something people love as much as jury duty. If they are there to do a job and not fill their own pockets then they will do the job right. Of course I’m sure my idea opens up a whole new can of corruption so I don’t really know what can be done at this point. I just know we have a political class in this country that starts at the top and trickles all the way down to the local level. (I’ve told people here about this one dem in my city that changes districts every election in hopes of finally winning one.) Well, it’s worse now, I’ve counted 7 separate local pols that do the same thing. Plus you have the ones that run for a different office every election, just so they can get their fix. Whatever office, they don’t care, power is power and they need it.
    This is bullshit and something has to be done. We don’t really have the citizen politician of the old days (if that even really existed), we have a separate privileged class that lords over us.


  22. Nevergiveup
    22 | June 10, 2010 10:09 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ vagabond trader:

    Unfortunately most Rs do not practice fiscal conservatism either.

    Agreed although the Republicans pay lip service to Conservatism, in reality they govern like Progressives. Rockerfeller Republicanism and Compassionate Conservatism.

    Not really. Yes Rockerfeller Republicanism and Compassionate Conservatism may govern like Liberals sometimes, and that ain’t good. But Progressives govern like Communists all the time, and that’s worse. taxfreekiller wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Yes, example, Obama vs McCain.

    Staying home and not voteing is not the choice, in fact, it was a vote for Obama in the end.

    IMHO

    Exactly


  23. taxfreekiller
    23 | June 10, 2010 10:13 am

    Texas Republican, House member Sam Johnson.

    Sam has not lined his pockets.
    Sam Johnson is what we need about 100,000 times nation wide.
    City, County, State, National.@ Mars:


  24. vagabond trader
  25. taxfreekiller
    25 | June 10, 2010 10:15 am

    I rate higher now on lgf’s .0001, Charles says I’m SoSo.!


  26. vagabond trader
    26 | June 10, 2010 10:16 am

    @ taxfreekiller:

    Are we talking about something that comes in pairs? :-)


  27. mfhorn
    27 | June 10, 2010 10:17 am

    @ Mars:

    I don’t remember who said it, but there was a comment about how juries are made up of people too dumb to get out of jury duty. I don’t know- given the choice, I’d take a nice long case (OJ for example, or the upcoming trials of the 9/11 nutcases) over my regular job. As long as I kept getting paid for the regular job.


  28. 28 | June 10, 2010 10:17 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Unfortunately most Rs do not practice fiscal conservatism either

    That is because most Rs are in the “Conservative” box, not the libertarian or “very conservative” boxes. The Huckabees and the Hutchisons and the Cornyns would all rather blather about Mom and apple pie than think about how to attract investment. (Blogmocracy is “very conservative”.)

    I expected the libertarians to whallop the liberals and moderate conservatives. I did not expect the “very-conservatives” to be statistically equal to, even better than, the libertarians.

    Where (serious) conservatives do have the edge over libertarians is that conservatives believe in non-governmental institutions and in the enforcement powers of government. Too many capital-L Libertarians spend their time mocking “redundant” institutions, spamming comment threads with “RON PAUL!!1″ and pulling bong hits.


  29. 29 | June 10, 2010 10:24 am

    @ taxfreekiller:

    He’s banned.


  30. 30 | June 10, 2010 10:29 am

    @ Mars:
    term limits sounds like the solution until you realize that term limited politicians are completely unaccountable to the voters for at least their last term. i don’t like that either. i want them always afraid of losing their jobs. always and forever. i think the problem is more apathetic voters who don’t know their own history and so don’t know what their own country is/was and, as long as they have a comfortable life with all their gadgets and gizmos and toys, just don’t give a shit. the educational system having been taken over by commies for decades is to blame for a lot of the ignorance BUT parents are ultimately responsible for the education of their children so really, it’s the peoples fault.

    and, as long as people have their own personal safety net, again, they don’t give a shit.

    these safety nets have to be eliminated in all but the most extreme situations. people must be made uncomfortable in the poverty which results from being a lazy dumbass. then, they will work and better themselves. until then, we get soft, lazy, gimme subjects as opposed to citizens.


  31. vagabond trader
    31 | June 10, 2010 10:30 am

    @ Zimriel:

    My vote will go to any proven cheapskate who isn’t addicted to OPM.Our small town CT government is democrat but they go the extra mile to squeeze a dime and get my vote every election.Our services are more than adequate and we attract business due to low property taxes in an out of control state.It isn’t rocket science as they say.


  32. taxfreekiller
  33. 33 | June 10, 2010 10:31 am

    Kirly wrote:

    term limits sounds like the solution until you realize that term limited politicians are completely unaccountable to the voters for at least their last term

    Also, politicians go to pasture as lobbyists and/or as functionaries in some government agency. There is no way to term-limit a lobbyist or a civil servant.


  34. Nevergiveup
    34 | June 10, 2010 10:32 am

    Arab states: Israeli nuclear danger reinforced by aggression toward Arab countries
    Arab states target Israel at UN nuclear debate, urge Israel to join global anti-nuclear arms pact NPT.

    And again we have the results of Obama’s ingenious Foreign Policy.


  35. taxfreekiller
  36. 36 | June 10, 2010 10:33 am

    @ Mars:
    oh no, not jury duty. i actually like being on a jury. it IS a civic duty and that’s the way i look at it. but, the idiots who are are not eliminated by the judges and the attorneys are pathetic. they always leave a bunch of touchy feeling idiots who think the poor fellow didn’t mean to kill his mother or bash in his grandmothers head for the $20 in her handbag. a bunch of wussie ass subjects as opposed to actual citizens who care about the rule of law. because these idiots have no clue what the rule of law is or what that phrase even means. seriously. i’m fed up with damn near everything in this socalled Great Society. I want to see some personal responsibility. using the phrase “you don’t work, you don’t eat now get out!” is a good place to start.


  37. taxfreekiller
    37 | June 10, 2010 10:33 am

    So, is SoSo on the baned list now?@ Rodan:


  38. 38 | June 10, 2010 10:34 am

    @ mfhorn:

    The MSM won’t report on it because a majority of the “journalists” are clueless about basic economics, too. That is part of the problem. The “journalists” go to J-School, where they learn all about being superior beings, but nothing about the common, everyday facts of life. Educated Idiots, I believe Mark Twain called the species…


  39. vagabond trader
    39 | June 10, 2010 10:34 am

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Yeah cause we know how dangerous those nuke waving Israelis are always threatening their peaceful neighbors with annihilation.//


  40. vagabond trader
    40 | June 10, 2010 10:36 am

    @ Kirly:

    We always get dismissed before they get to the interview,can’t understand why. :-)


  41. 41 | June 10, 2010 10:36 am

    @ Zimriel:

    The Huckabees and the Hutchisons and the Cornyns would all rather blather about Mom and apple pie than think about how to attract investment. (Blogmocracy is “very conservative”.)

    Good points and I actually would classify Huckabee as a Progressive. He’s Conservative on Social issues but a Leftist on Economic issues.


  42. Nevergiveup
    42 | June 10, 2010 10:37 am

    As relations between Israel and Turkey continue to sour, Bulgaria could be come the new popular destination for Israeli holiday makers after Minister of Welfare and Social Services Isaac Herzog spent the day Thursday in the Eastern European country.

    Herzog, who was formerly Israel’s tourism minister, met with his Bulgarian counterpart Totyu Mladenov initially to discuss social welfare issues shared by the two countries. However, the talks soon turned to the increasing number of Israeli tourists who have chosen to spend time in Bulgaria instead of resorts in Turkey.

    “Bulgaria offers comfortable prices and a well-established tourist industry,” Herzog said in a statement following his meetings there. “It has the potential of becoming a popular tourist destination for Israelis.”

    Last week, after the Flotilla incident, two airlines offering low-budget flights between Turkey and Israel suspended their services.

    Ah yeah, good idea


  43. 43 | June 10, 2010 10:37 am

    @ taxfreekiller:

    Yes he was insulting and contributed nothing. He had to go.


  44. RIX
    44 | June 10, 2010 10:38 am

    There was a similar poll some time back about literacy, I wish that I could remember who did it.
    The findings were that Conservatives as a group read books geometrically
    more than Liberals.


  45. taxfreekiller
    45 | June 10, 2010 10:40 am

    Huckabee has lots of the blame for Obama getting in, he cut Romney off over his own dumb ass religion crap, were as Romney keeps his Morman side of his life out of his goverment life. IMHO


  46. Nevergiveup
    46 | June 10, 2010 10:41 am

    Taliban hang 7-year-old boy accused of being a spy, suicide bomber kills 40 at Afghanistan wedding

    Yeah making peace with people like this is a good idea ya say?


  47. MikeA
    47 | June 10, 2010 10:42 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    Actually I served on a 2 week trial a couple of years ago for a guy who defrauded a couple of banks. I work for a bank so I was surprised they picked me. I think it had to do with a ton of people trying to get out of it by saying they knew someone on the case. it got ridiculus.


  48. 48 | June 10, 2010 10:42 am

    @ taxfreekiller:

    Huckabee is a Progressive disguised as a Conservative. Plus he’s for amnesty, he’s a Leftist who uses The bible to cover up his real aims.


  49. Nevergiveup
    49 | June 10, 2010 10:43 am

    The gulf between Hollywood hypocrites and the oil spill

    And the other surprise here is that the article is in the NY Daily News?


  50. 50 | June 10, 2010 10:44 am

    @ Nevergiveup:

    But but, they believe in peace!
    /

    Progressives


  51. vagabond trader
    51 | June 10, 2010 10:44 am

    @ MikeA:

    We have been called a few times in the last ten years and are never asked one question, sit around all day then get sent home.Something about our name? Strange.


  52. m
    52 | June 10, 2010 10:47 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    this is the kind of garbage that needs to be cut

    CHECK YOU OUT, LOL!


  53. m
    53 | June 10, 2010 10:47 am

    ^ er… referring to the linky :}


  54. 54 | June 10, 2010 10:48 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Kirly:
    We always get dismissed before they get to the interview,can’t understand why.

    yes indeed. those of us how have the tiniest clue get booted. hell, the last one i was called for (but not chosen, of course) there was a guy who was a convicted criminal who told every outlandish story he could think of to get out of it and yet they bent over backwards to keep. i know he was lying because he was talking about his lies out in the hall. i swear, next time, i’m going to rat them all out until there is no one left but normals. in my dreams.


  55. Bob in Breckenridge
    55 | June 10, 2010 10:49 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    this is the kind of garbage that needs to be cut

    That’s like when Chrysler Corp. was taken over by the Obama regime last year and had to close a bunch of dealerships. This will shock you, but the vast majority of the dealerships that were closed had owners that supported McCain/Palin!

    /Or maybe not shock you. :)


  56. vagabond trader
    56 | June 10, 2010 10:49 am

    @ m:

    m,I are a jeansyus. :mrgreen:


  57. MikeA
    57 | June 10, 2010 10:50 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    We did have one liberal on the jury. This guy was so guilty that after the 3rd day of testimony and evidence he was gone. The next 4 days were just a dog pile. This woman on the jury said she had a hard time saying giulty cause she felt bad. There ya go with feelings again. I almost reached across and hit her. The entire jury just looked at her. She finally agreed.

    I found it a very enjoyable experience. More so since it was a federal case here in Philly. Now the case next door was even more interesting. Some drug guy had killed a witness in a federal trial. Jury was sequestered and brougt up through the judges elevator every day. They had armed US marshals outside the court room. Even though the building was crawling with them. Never felt so safe in my life.


  58. vagabond trader
    58 | June 10, 2010 10:51 am

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    Bob,if this guy unzipped himself and out stepped the devil it wouldn’t shock me.


  59. vagabond trader
    59 | June 10, 2010 10:52 am

    @ MikeA:

    How do they go about selecting potential jurors for a fed case? Same as a local one?


  60. African Moondog
    60 | June 10, 2010 10:54 am

    @ Rodan:
    When did our favorite New Mexican bigot get the hammer?


  61. 61 | June 10, 2010 10:54 am

    @ Kirly:
    @ vagabond trader:
    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    Talking about economic illiteracy, The media was trying to push the Obama Economic Boom theme. Well last Friday’s jobs reports have killed that talk.


  62. MikeA
    62 | June 10, 2010 10:54 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    We filled out a questionaire. Sat in a big room all morning. 60 of us tromped off to a court room aroundf 11:30am . couple of us were questioned, most were not. 14 of us were picked. rest got let go. We had 1/2 hour to eat then we were hearing testimony by 2:30 pm.


  63. snork
    63 | June 10, 2010 10:55 am

    Kirly wrote:

    term limits sounds like the solution until you realize that term limited politicians are completely unaccountable to the voters for at least their last term.

    There needs to be a realistic way to vote “no confidence” in an incumbent in the middle of their term, and remove voting power during the lame duck transitional period.


  64. African Moondog
    64 | June 10, 2010 10:55 am

    RIX wrote:

    There was a similar poll some time back about literacy, I wish that I could remember who did it.
    The findings were that Conservatives as a group read books geometrically
    more than Liberals.

    I remember a survey which discovered that Conservatives were better in bed than Liberals. It all adds up.


  65. vagabond trader
  66. vagabond trader
  67. 67 | June 10, 2010 11:03 am

    @ MikeA:

    Jury call twice. First was in a Federal Court for someone transporting heroin. I told the prosecutor heroin should be legalized so we could solve the issue of addiction in one generation…..dismissed pick up your check from the clerk.

    Second one was for a civil asbestos class action. I was the first one called in for dismissal by the Judge, a Judge I knew socially. In the Voire Dire pre survey I had indicated that all that I knew about asbestos litigation was, that is was one of the primary cash cows for the plantiff bar’s litigation assembly line. Needless to say, there where some very sour faces at one side of the table when I was called into chambers for dismissal. The Judge kinda LOL’d when he looked up to address me, knowing me and my defense counsel wife’s views on Litigation Loto.


  68. 68 | June 10, 2010 11:04 am

    @ African Moondog:

    2 weeks ago he insulted Speranza’s mother and it was time for him to go.


  69. Bob in Breckenridge
    69 | June 10, 2010 11:04 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Taliban hang 7-year-old boy accused of being a spy, suicide bomber kills 40 at Afghanistan wedding

    Yeah making peace with people like this is a good idea ya say?

    How f**in’ disgusting, but not surprising for those 7th century savages. That in and of itself is threadworthy.


  70. RIX
    70 | June 10, 2010 11:05 am

    African Moondog
    64 | June 10, 2010 10:55
    I remember a survey which discovered that Conservatives were better in bed than Liberals. It all adds up.

    Indisputable fact.


  71. 71 | June 10, 2010 11:05 am

    @ vagabond trader:

    Eugenics!


  72. African Moondog
    72 | June 10, 2010 11:08 am

    @ Rodan:

    That is good enough. Nick is such a typical little lefty, offer nothing substantive,insult people and their relatives and think that is oh so clever.


  73. 73 | June 10, 2010 11:08 am

    @ Nevergiveup:

    I am certain that Obama is pleased. He is getting exactly what he wants from his foreign policy. It is disasterous for America, of course, but he doesn’t concern himself with details like that.


  74. 74 | June 10, 2010 11:10 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    It’s the Cloward Piven strategy on a Global Scale.


  75. Bob in Breckenridge
    75 | June 10, 2010 11:14 am

    MikeA wrote:

    @ vagabond trader:
    We did have one liberal on the jury. This guy was so guilty that after the 3rd day of testimony and evidence he was gone. The next 4 days were just a dog pile. This woman on the jury said she had a hard time saying giulty cause she felt bad.

    Remember Erik and Lyle Menendez, the two spoiled brats who killed their parents in Beverly Hills? One of their trials ended in a hung because one of the jurors said, I kid you not, that she felt sorry for them and couldn’t vote to convict them because their parents were dead.


  76. Nevergiveup
    76 | June 10, 2010 11:15 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    I am certain that Obama is pleased. He is getting exactly what he wants from his foreign policy. It is disasterous for America, of course, but he doesn’t concern himself with details like that.

    Yup


  77. Bob in Breckenridge
    77 | June 10, 2010 11:17 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    Bob,if this guy unzipped himself and out stepped the devil it wouldn’t shock me.

    Nothing he does would surprise me. Well, unless he started talking about the greatness of our country. Now that WOULD shock me, but it’ll never happen.


  78. African Moondog
    78 | June 10, 2010 11:17 am

    @ Nevergiveup:
    First they use their UN sponsored stadium for nothing else but public executions. Then they destroy their Heritage Sites, then they murder little boys for being spies. They ban their women from receiving medical attention or education and the lefties of the world complain about Israel. They are all a bunch of sick fucks, bastards.


  79. Bob in Breckenridge
    79 | June 10, 2010 11:21 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Kirly:
    @ vagabond trader:
    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    Talking about economic illiteracy, The media was trying to push the Obama Economic Boom theme. Well last Friday’s jobs reports have killed that talk.

    Neil Cavuto had some Census worker on his show who said that the Obama Regime was temporarily laying off census workers (She had been laid off 3 times and called back), and when they called them back, they were counted as being previously unemployed workers who found a job.


  80. RIX
    80 | June 10, 2010 11:26 am

    I heard a little bit of Beck while driving.
    He had a sound clip of Rosie O’Donnell.
    She saw nothing hateful about what Helen Thomas said.
    Someone asked her, “What if she said Blacks back to Africa?”
    Rosie said that it is not the same ‘Because Blacks are’nt occupying anybody.”


  81. 81 | June 10, 2010 11:28 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Kirly:
    @ vagabond trader:
    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    Talking about economic illiteracy, The media was trying to push the Obama Economic Boom theme. Well last Friday’s jobs reports have killed that talk.

    obamas economic plans will kill the entire economy.

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    It’s the Cloward Piven strategy on a Global Scale.

    did i ever mention that my first class in college was a poli sci class the summer between high school and the fall semester and the book used was called Poor People’s Movements? cloward and piven. mostly taught by the TA who was clearly, a Marxist. he looked a lot like that sinbad fellow. i hope he’s getting what he deserves now in some commie country like cuba.


  82. Nevergiveup
    82 | June 10, 2010 11:28 am

    RIX wrote:

    I heard a little bit of Beck while driving.
    He had a sound clip of Rosie O’Donnell.
    She saw nothing hateful about what Helen Thomas said.
    Someone asked her, “What if she said Blacks back to Africa?”
    Rosie said that it is not the same ‘Because Blacks are’nt occupying anybody.”

    yeah I heard that. Not only that she seemed to indicate the Helen Thomas was correct and after all Jews have nothing to fear about going back to Poland and Germany anymore since the “Ovens” are gone. I shit you not. Fat ugly stupid gay bitch.


  83. 83 | June 10, 2010 11:30 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    hello death panels and fewer punishment babies?

    now you’re just showing off with your new found link abilities, aren’t ya? :-) LOL


  84. 84 | June 10, 2010 11:31 am

    @ vagabond trader:
    no, it worked just fine!


  85. 85 | June 10, 2010 11:36 am

    Bob in Breckenridge wrote:

    Neil Cavuto had some Census worker on his show who said that the Obama Regime was temporarily laying off census workers (She had been laid off 3 times and called back), and when they called them back, they were counted as being previously unemployed workers who found a job.

    yeah, they lay them off on Fridays and hire them back on Mondays. Since they aren’t layed off long enough to collect unemployement, they don’t get counted in the unemployment numbers but, since they get hired they count them as hires. lying bastards and the sheeple just yawn and roll over.


  86. 86 | June 10, 2010 11:39 am

    argh! you all left me for the new thread! i really must pay closer attention. dang work crowding out my commenting here. lol


  87. snork
    87 | June 10, 2010 11:56 am

    @ Kirly:
    Hey Kirly. New thread’s up. :P


  88. lobo91
    88 | June 10, 2010 12:28 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ MikeA:
    How do they go about selecting potential jurors for a fed case? Same as a local one?

    I got a notice from the federal court in Albuquerque about a year ago, saying I’d been selected for jury duty.

    They mailed it to me at my house in Colorado. Not forwarded or anything. Actually addressed to me here, where I’ve lived for 8 years.

    I sent it back with a note asking if they were going to pay for a plane ticket and hotel room for me.

    Reminded me of the time I got a notice from the Selective Service people telling me that I hadn’t registered. It was sent to me at my military address in Germany.


  89. vagabond trader
    89 | June 10, 2010 12:56 pm

    @ Kirly:

    Its all huckfunns fault! Honest. :lol:


  90. 90 | June 10, 2010 1:35 pm

    Zogby poll: Most self-described democrats and/or liberals flunk basic economics badly

    No shit, Sherlock, this ain’t news. I’ve known about this since the 60′s.


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