Senator Joseph I. Lieberman has drafted a bill that will give the President the power to shut down parts of the Internet during any action he deems a national security threat. The bill is entitled “Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act”, also known as PCNAA.
You can find the 197 page PDF document here…
According to Declan McCullagh at CNET,
the legislation says that companies such as broadband providers, search engines or software firms that the US Government selects “shall immediately comply with any emergency measure or action developed” by the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone failing to comply would be fined.
That emergency authority would allow the Federal Government to “preserve those networks and assets and our country and protect our people,” Joe Lieberman, the primary sponsor of the measure and the chairman of the Homeland Security committee, told reporters on Thursday.
More quotes that jumped out at me from the CNET article:
The idea of an internet “kill switch” that the President could flip is not new. A draft Senate proposal that ZDNet Australia’s sister site CNET obtained in August allowed the White House to “declare a cybersecurity emergency”, and another from Sens. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.V.) and Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) would have explicitly given the government the power to “order the disconnection” of certain networks or websites.
Under PCNAA, the Federal Government’s power to force private companies to comply with emergency decrees would become unusually broad. Any company on a list created by Homeland Security that also “relies on” the internet, the telephone system or any other component of the US “information infrastructure” would be subject to command by a new National Center for Cybersecurity and Communications (NCCC) that would be created inside Homeland Security.
The best summary I have seen on this issue comes from Paul Joseph Watson. Watson is spot on in his analysis. There is more information and commentary over at his link.
As we have repeatedly warned for years, the federal government is desperate to seize control of the Internet because the establishment is petrified at the fact that alternative and independent media outlets are now eclipsing corporate media outlets in terms of audience share, trust, and influence.
We witnessed another example of this on Monday when establishment Congressman Bob Etheridge was publicly shamed after he was shown on video assaulting two college students who asked him a question. Two kids with a flip cam and a You Tube account could very well have changed the course of a state election, another startling reminder of the power of the Internet and independent media, and why the establishment is desperate to take that power away.
The government has been searching for any avenue possible through which to regulate free speech on the Internet and strangle alternative media outlets, with the FTC recently proposing a “Drudge Tax” that would force independent media organizations to pay fees that would be used to fund mainstream newspapers.
Similar legislation aimed at imposing Chinese-style censorship of the Internet and giving the state the power to shut down networks has already been passed globally, including in the UK, New Zealand and Australia.
We have extensively covered efforts to scrap the internet as we know it and move toward a greatly restricted “internet 2″ system. Handing government the power to control the Internet would only be the first step towards this system, whereby individual ID’s and government permission would be required simply to operate a website.
The Lieberman bill needs to be met with fierce opposition at every level and from across the political spectrum. Regulation of the Internet would not only represent a massive assault on free speech, it would also create new roadblocks for e-commerce and as a consequence further devastate the economy.
Here’s my take on the whole thing. This is yet another heavy handed tactic that the Government will be saying is ‘good for us’. Posting information on any malfeasance by the government will have to go through a bureaucracy for our own good. Say goodbye to any opposition to the Government. Need information regarding some type of disaster? Look for a bureaucrat to give us the information we need.
As my friend Ed states, “The point of this bill is preventing opposition to an illegitimate government from being organized in any way.”
Word!
Tags: Internet
Joe Lieberman at his finest.
Set up a BBS. Dial up modems exist out there still and can be used to bypass this attempted crackdown on information sharing if it comes to pass. Simple and old school solution if it comes down to it.
As Instapundit says, if they use this power, the time has come to break out the firepower. One way or another America is under massive attack. If not from the enemy without, then from the enemy within. I don’t suppose they give any scenarios where they think that shutting down internal communication between Americans and the ability of Americans to get news and information would be necessary, do they? It is hard to think of a legitimate need for this power. But Democrats seek to accumulate power the way a miser seeks to acquire gold. The difference being that the Democrats intend to use their power, and not for the common good.
PaladinPhil wrote:
Well I think the kill switch would prevent any access whether from high speed or a dial up modem. And while I don’t trust the Government, especially this one, there really could be legit national security concerns why you might want to shut down the net
Paranoid establishment uber-spending Senators will be the death of this great country.
So much for the idea that Lieberman is some kind of a moderate. He’s supported most of the Obama agenda of stimulus, hellcare, more stimulus and now he’s pushing cap & tax lite and this internet monstrosity. He obviously has a terminal case of Potomac fever.
If they were doing right by the people, they wouldn’t need to go paranoid
@ Nevergiveup:
A BBS isn’t really part of the internet. It’s essentially a stand alone computer that’s only accessed through a dedicated phone line. I am sure that there are other ways to set up networked access as well. Just imagine a series of Wifi connections that share info in large cities. The knowledge is out there just waiting to be used properly.
Quick OT:
Abbas, Mitchell meet in Ramallah; discuss construction in east Jerusalem
Published: 06.18.10, 14:54 / Israel News
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and US envoy to the Middle East George Mitchell met in Ramallah and discussed the peace talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority.
Chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said Abbas asked Mitchell to clarify reports according to which Israel was planning to build 1,600 new housing units at the Jerusalem neighborhood of Ramat Shlomo. (Ali Waked)
Anybody else thinks this is like Nero fiddling while Rome Burned? I mean guys, with all the shit going on in the World, a few bathrooms in Jerusalem ain’t that all important. I mean unless ya have to really go bad.
TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) – A concert by Elton John has given Israelis a boost after a string of cancellations by other world-famous artists.
The British rocker performed late Thursday in front of a screaming crowd of nearly 50,000 fans at a Tel Aviv stadium.
John, who wore blue-tinted sunglasses, told the audience those cancellations “ain’t gonna stop me from playing here, baby.”
Recent cancellations by the Pixies and Elvis Costello, who cited Israeli government policies, have added to Israel’s growing sense of isolation.
John swiped at those artists, saying, “We do not cherry-pick our consciences,” before hitting the opening chords of his 1972 hit “Crocodile Rock.”
Obowmao disapproval index at -21
His “total approve” is at a record low of 41% and “total disapprove” is at a record high of 58%. Limbo lower now.
@ Nevergiveup:
I see your point, but with this crowd I don’t trust them.
@ Nevergiveup:
Hey Eliana put this on the overnight. If you come across any link referencing this, let me know.
Rodan wrote:
I haven’t seen that, but hey the enemy of my enemy is my friend, so why the hell not.
@ huckfunn:
OI guess his big speech and shakedown of BP didn’t have the desired effect. In truth, I thought he’d get a big bounce from at least the establishment of his extra-Constitutional $20 billion slush fund.
Lincoln was right. You can’t fool all of the people all of the time. It appears 18 months is the time limit.
@ Carolina Girl:
I’ve always felt that when the press turns against him, he and his sycophantic congress will become lame ducks.
mornin folks
yesterday on rush a caller said the oil skimmers had been shut down.
it was true.
from drudge
BP Oil Spill: Against Gov. Jindal’s Wishes, Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard
Sixteen barges sat stationary today, although they were sucking up thousands of gallons of BP’s oil as recently as Tuesday. Workers in hazmat suits and gas masks pumped the oil out of the Louisiana waters and into steel tanks. It was a homegrown idea that seemed to be effective at collecting the thick gunk.
“These barges work. You’ve seen them work. You’ve seen them suck oil out of the water,” said Jindal.
So why stop now?
“The Coast Guard came and shut them down,” Jindal said. “You got men on the barges in the oil, and they have been told by the Coast Guard, ‘Cease and desist. Stop sucking up that oil.’”
A Coast Guard representative told ABC News today that it shares the same goal as the governor.
“We are all in this together. The enemy is the oil,” said Coast Guard Lt. Cmdr. Dan Lauer
But the Coast Guard ordered the stoppage because of reasons that Jindal found frustrating. The Coast Guard needed to confirm that there were fire extinguishers and life vests on board, and then it had trouble contacting the people who built the barges
more good news
In order to protect the new national health care law from legal challenges, the Obama administration has been forced to argue that the individual mandate represents a tax – even though Obama himself argued the exact opposite while campaigning to pass the legislation.
In the text of the healthcare law, the findings for passing an individual mandate specifically rely on the effects of individuals on the national economy and interstate commerce. Nowhere in the findings is the mandate referred to as a tax. The Justice Department is now calling it a tax to try and convince the court not to rule on whether or not Congress exceeded their authority under the Commerce Clause by legislating that all citizens must purchase private health insurance or face a penalty.”
Put another way, the administration is now arguing in federal court that Obama signed a massive middle-class tax increase, in violation of his campaign pledge
link
More consequences of Obowmao’s fantasies:
$7-a-gallon gas?
@ rain of lead:
The Coast Guard should be handing out fire extinguishers and life vests and medical kits and drinking water.
@ waldensianspirit:
just more proof that barry wants the spill to get worse
rain of lead wrote:
Just more proof he is an incompetent ass
@ Nevergiveup:
Exactly!
Obama’s Answer To Spill Comes Up Short
Once again, the K-Hammer nails it.
. . . and just when you’ve thought you’ve seen everything:
JOHANNESBURG (AP) – Thousands of South African protesters marched on the U.S. consulate Thursday to demand the U.S. increase its AIDS funding for Africa,
(linked at Drudge) UFB!
Nevergiveup wrote:
Proving again that he’s just one big bundle of surprises…
Speakin’ of oil spills – has everyone seen this yet ? Why is this all being treated as if this is ‘new’ ?? No way around the reporter but no matter, the truth is the truth no matter who tells it and thats what counts:
http://www.wimp.com/oilspills/
rain of lead wrote:
It is so obvious that zero is purposefully dragging his feet to make this crisis as bad as possible.
Somehow zero and his henchmen don’t realize that we see what they are doing. Or they don’t care that we know. Because they are so detached and out of touch with the people of this country, they have no concept of the blow back they are going to get from the American public for their failure to act on this disaster. They are so wrong if they think they can demoralize us into obedience. This fcking commie hack and his scum cohorts are going down.
Kill switch to shutdown the gubmint
STOP PAYING TAXES
BuddyG wrote:
My friend Wesley Snipes says that really don’t so good?
@ spinmore:
I saw that. The sense of entitlement from these people is unbelievable. WTF? Frankly, AIDS in Africa isn’t our problem unless we want to be charitable and help. Which, BTW, Bush did a lot of, and that is fine, but you don’t fucking demand charity. The demand is enough for me to want to tell them to go fuck themselves. Whatever sins you can theoretically lay at the US’s door, the state of affairs in Africa isn’t one of them. South Africa has gold and diamonds. They can afford to finance their AIDS problem themselves.
huckfunn wrote:
I love the line,
The Gulf is gushing and the President is talking mystery roads that lead to unknown destinations.”
Another OT. Opinion only, but do you TRUST these guys with your life savings? I pull out my retirement money and pay the taxes. That means I have the use of my money, not THEM.
<<…….Government is desperately searching for more revenue to cover its massive deficit spending and to service existing mandatory programs. Taxes are being increased; some 19 new taxes, in the recently passed medical reform legislation. Unfortunately this isn’t enough. Of course, there is never enough.
As a result, as we pointed out recently, government has been eying retirement plans as a source of funding. The arm-twisting has been going on for some six months to make managers of retirement funds to purchase US Treasuries and Agency bonds. This is to provide a delaying action as the dollar begins to play second fiddle to gold as the only real currency. In addition, foreign central governments, which own well over $3 trillion of these debt instruments, hope that the US is serious about protecting the functioning of government. Accessing retirement plans will be an integral part of extending solvency to buy more time for Wall Street, banking and government. Of course there is nothing our purchased Congress won’t pass to stay in office.
Thus it has been decided behind the scenes to eventually confiscate the $15 trillion in private retirement funds. The only thing those who control government haven’t quite figured out yet is exactly how to confiscate what little wealth you have left. These plans were in construction in the early 1990s with funding from the Rockefellers. In 1991, plans were presented to create a mandatory pension system to be funded by a one-time 15% tax on retirement assets and a continuing tax of 15% on retirement income. Those plans had to be put on the shelf, because they were not politically acceptable at the time and passage was not possible. Today there are more aggressive plans in the works and if we do not unseat most of the incumbents in November’s election you will see passage of such legislation over the next two years
Iron Fist wrote:
Exactly. They have learned from the agitator-n-chief. Start hollering for direct action in your shakedown bids. I wonder who organized these people. Commies, I bet.
@ Iron Fist:
This is just one small example of the where we find ourselves. The Revolution currently underway needs to address this kind of thing. I for one am ready for a large dose of “isolationism”. Don’t get me wrong – i do support open markets and ‘free’ trade (whatever that means/). We must examine NATO, the UN, global ‘attitudes’ like the young ingrates in SoKorea, etc. . . . the list is so friggin’ long it would take a week to summerize
chickadee wrote:
That line reminded me of an old 19th century editorial cartoon that I saw years ago. There were 3 political types in a bath tub dressed up like the butcher, the baker and the candlestick maker. They were adrift in the ocean. The caption was “We don’t know where we’re going but we’re on our way”.
@ spinmore:
Oh, and one more thing – WEST 2012
@ yenta-fada:
We’re So Frickin’ Screwed if this kind of cr-p passes. More evidence the left (Dems & RINOs alike) see wealth as a gift from the government.
PaladinPhil wrote:
I am sure that there are people out there already working on this idea!
@ spinmore:
West/Jindal? Ann Coulter for the Supreme Court. Sheriff Joe as head of Homeland Security.
Good morning. This is not good, when the government seeks to control the flow of & content of information a police state is starting to form.
my guess is that, under existing presidential powers, the president could “shut down” the internet. The problem is more likely in the mechanics of such a move.
Anyone here that lived in the Gulf area back in ’79 when the identical spill happened ? If so, do you remember what company was involved and if they were called before Congress and did the POTUS demand a fund be set up for those effected ?
@ mfhorn:
Paul Ryan to Treasury Dept.
mfhorn wrote:
SOLD. can we find a job for Gov. Christie?
spinmore wrote:
Not really. If you have Cablevision, it happens all the time.
mfhorn wrote:
The best thing IMO is to take charge of your own resources before they are seized. Higher taxes are forms of confiscation of wealth. If the rest of the world stops buying U.S. debt, “they” can pass laws restricting your IRA to t-bills. Even though I’m Canadian, the principle is the same. Use your money (e.g.pay down debt) for yourself before they do.
RIX wrote:
Starting? People did NOT want Obamacare passed. They did it anyway.
@ Nevergiveup:
. . . you forgot the *rim-shot* ba-dump-dump
The first IT support call:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxyda9ymIPE
@ yenta-fada:
Yeah, we’re paying things off as fast as we can. I just finished up a temp. 2nd job, wife’s heading out on TDY for 2 months and most of her per diem will get our next card paid off, and start on the last one. Once things settle down a bit, I’m going to look for a longer-term temp job. Sell some of the junk we’ve got sitting around the house. Heck- go out & sell soft drinks & golf balls to golfers across the street!
@ chickadee:
In New York State unions such as AFSCME have been involved with issues in Africa since the 80′s. AFSCME is nation wide. Public employee unions in NYS are/have been affiliated with AFSCME for decades. I remember a local ‘Local’ conducting an ‘anti apartheid march’ back in the mid 80′s.
I couldn’t help wonder why a union would be involved with social issues in So Africa ??
@ 4_Sticks:
exactly . . . one of my pet peves (sp?) is when city councils get involved in national and international politics. They can’t manage city business, but yet want to ‘change the world’
Iron Fist wrote:
What you said. Take care of us first. If we did take care of us instead of shipping all that money to third world (which we will soon be if we don’t dump the pos)We could pay everyone’s health care with no problem.
4_Sticks wrote:
Once again at the risk of being laughed out of this room. I don’t believe the oil explosion was an accident and I don’t care if someone draws me a map of what they say happened. I just don’t believe it.
Egypt refuses to stop flotillas
Be a shame if they mysteriously blew up in the Suez Canal blocking all traffic hey?
@ Grimcargo:
At the very least the jihadis know a weak point for the West; offshore wells below human controlled repair equipment.
@ mfhorn:
I support you in your decision to get out of debt. It drags you down.
@ Iron Fist:
What percentage of that unaccounted for money actually goes for stopping AIDS?
Just by the way, that live video on the overnight thread plays merry hell with the site in Safari.
The endless and un-disable-able video makes the Spinning Ball of Death come up periodically and freeze the browser.
Consider this a request that the video be disabled now that the thread is dead, since it affects the whole home page. And consider this a request that no more endless-loop videos be posted at the top of threads unless they can be disabled/stopped.
@ Grimcargo:
Questions that need to be answered: (from the net, no attribution)
The following are 16 questions about the Gulf of Mexico oil spill that we really need some answers to….
#1) Barack Obama has authorized the deployment of more than 17,000 National Guard members along the Gulf coast to be used “as needed” by state governors. So what are all of these National Guard troops going to be doing exactly? Are the troops going to be used to stop the oil or to control the public?
#2) Barack Obama has also announced the creation of a “Gulf recovery czar” who will be in charge of overseeing the restoration of the Gulf of Mexico region following the oil spill. So is appointing a “czar” Obama’s idea of taking charge of a situation?
#3) Because it is so incredibly toxic, the UK’s Marine Management Organization has completely banned Corexit 9500, so if there was a major oil spill in the UK’s North Sea, BP would not be able to use it. So why is BP being allowed to use Corexit 9500 in the Gulf of Mexico?
#4) It is being reported that 2.61 parts per million of Corexit 9500 (mixed with oil at a ratio of 1:1o) is lethal to 50% of fish exposed to it within 96 hours. That means that 1 gallon of Corexit 9500/oil mixture is capable of rendering 383,141 gallons of water highly toxic to fish. So why was BP allowed to dump 1,021,000 gallons of Corexit 9500 and Corexit 9527 into the Gulf of Mexico, and why aren’t they being stopped from dumping another 805,000 gallons of these dispersants that they have on order into the Gulf?
#5) If these dispersants are so incredibly toxic to fish, what are they going to do to crops? What are they going to do to people?
#6) If the smell of the oil on some Gulf beaches is already so strong that it burns your nostrils, then what in the world is this oil doing to to wildlife that encounter it?
#7) Is it a bad sign that birds from the Gulf region are flocking north by the thousands?
#8) Why is BP being allowed to use private security contractors to keep the American people away from the oil cleanup sites?
#9) Why is BP openly attempting to manipulate the search results on sites like Google and Yahoo?
#10) Why has the FAA shut down the airspace above the Gulf of Mexico oil spill? What don’t they want the American people to see?
#11) Senator Bill Nelson of Florida says that there are reports that there are additional ruptures in the sea floor from which oil is leaking. If there are quite a few of these additional ruptures, then how in the world does BP expect to completely stop this oil leak?
#12) Why are scientists finding concentrations of methane at up to 10,000 times normal background levels in Gulf waters?
#13) At some testing stations in the Gulf of Mexico, levels of benzene have been detected at over 3000 parts per billion, and levels of hydrogen sulfide have been detected as high as 1192 parts per billion. Considering that these levels would be highly toxic to humans, why hasn’t the general public been warned?
#14) Why are so many Gulf oil spill disaster workers showing up at local hospitals complaining of a “mysterious illness”?
#15) If “70% or 80%” of the protective booms are doing absolutely nothing at all to stop the oil, then what is going to stop the millions of gallons of oil in the Gulf from eventually reaching shore?
#16) It is being reported that the deepsea oil plumes are creating huge “dead zones” where all creatures are dying as they are deprived of oxygen. If this oil spill continues to grow could the vast majority of the Gulf of Mexico become one gigantic “dead zone”?
I shoulda mentioned that there was legislation passed that allows an employee to pull that portion of their dues that went to pol action committees etc. Also, the members who marched in the ‘march’ did so voluntarily on their own time. And I had no problem with ‘anti apartheid’ action just that I saw, back then, the future of unions in politics local and global.The future of So Africa was still wide open then. I imagine the parent union had ideas of what the new/post apartheid Govt should look like. I don’t think they were pushing for free enterprise if you get my drift…
Elton John at Rush’s wedding. Elton John in Israel. Im begging to have a high regard for that great singer.
yenta-fada
48 | June 18, 2010 10:47
Starting? People did NOT want Obamacare passed. They did it anyway
Passing ObamaCare was thuggish, in spite of the will of the people.
Shutting down information takes it to a whole new demension.
@ yenta-fada:
Somethinmg is up here.
yenta-fada wrote:
That is some chilling stuff there.If there are ruptures on the floor then no one can fix it.
4_Sticks wrote:
Didn’t live in the Gulf, but the well was the Ixtoc 1, being drilled in Campache Bay by PEMEX (of course.) Since it wasn’t in US waters, federal action was a bit limited.
Rodan wrote:
Oh yeah. Power grabs everywhere?
More bad news a tropical storm has popped up and maybe a hurricane brewing. If it comes into the gulf I cannot imagine the hell.
@ Grimcargo:
A Nuclear Blast.
@ Grimcargo:
“Yenta-fada” needs to stop reading conspiracy sites.
Rodan wrote:
but what if that nuclear blast blasted open more oil flows from other places. Turn the whole ocean into oil.
@ Grimcargo:
I don’t know how much of this is true, but there are certainly health concerns I am hearing about. We already get media blackouts due to bias. Now ‘cover up’ comes to mind.
@ Grimcargo:
Obama’s Katrina for real, with the oil spill on top. It could happen. Glad I’m not down on the Gulf Coast…
yenta-fada wrote:
Actually the truth is bad enough. But the only truth is what you see with your own eyes.
@ Grimcargo:
I hear ya. No doubt the timing was amazing.But ‘conspiracy theories’ are an automatic turn off for me. I would need to see some concrete evidence 1st.The thing is that had this been reversed (Rep POTUS and an ‘incident’ that played into the parties hands) the left would be howling for hearings/prosecutions. I just posted a link (above) that shows this all happened at least once before back in ’79. I’m not getting why no one finds this video relevant…. it might lend a hand to your theory also as I find it bizarre that no one, that I’m aware of, is talking about ‘the last time this happened’. I just keep hearing “This is the worst blah, blah, blah …in history !!” The ’79 link went on for 9 months before they contained it. At the very least, I’d like to know what the long term effects to the area were.
Feelin’ very alone here…(and that nagging ‘is it just me ?’feeling
Iron Fist wrote:
Hurricane hits down there all that oil will no longer be just in the gulf it will be in the rivers as well.
Mike C. wrote:
LOL. You are probably right. It goes with the ‘goldbug’ territory. I do not believe in ‘conspiracy’ per se. However, it is certainly obvious that there are efforts being made to keep us from getting facts. If 3 people are at a meeting, I don’t call it a conspiracy.
@ 4_Sticks:
Unions are somewhere between organized crime and a communist front, anyway (how that breaks down depends on the union). I’m sure they weren’t in it for the liberty of the people of South Africa.
I don’t believe the disaster was deliberately caused, any more than I believe Bush was behind 9/11.
BUT I don’t think Obama’s too disappointed that it occurred, because it gives him more reason to take more control over the US economy.
@ 4_Sticks:
Hey I never saw you here before. If that’s the case as one fo the owners, welcome!
@ 4_Sticks:
Perhaps numbers and physics instead of a video would get people thinking. Barrels of flow? etc.
@ waldensianspirit:
Good question. I doubt that anybody knows any hard figures.
@ Grimcargo:
Not only ‘at’ Rushs wedding, he performed for over an hour !! He ‘gets it’ – he may not agree with Rushs politics but he knows he ain’t an evil dude (like less talented/successful musicians think/spew
@ 4_Sticks:
You have to realize there are people out there willing to take no prisoners to reach their goal. The crazy ass animal terrorists blew up labs, killed doctors. Heck this crap is kind of like islam.You couldn’t write it because it’s like sci fi
@ Mike C.
Just for the record, I do not think that the Gulf tragedy was caused by anything but a confluence of bad practices and bad luck. And I hate the whole ‘truther’ movement.
@ mfhorn:
I agree. I don’t know whether to believe that he is doing this deliberately (I lean that way hard) or he is the most incompetant President we’ve ever had. He certainly hasn’t hesitated to use the disaster for his political benifit. Never let a crisis go to waste. And he may see benifit in prolonging the crisis.
DOOMAGE! MAJOR DOOMAGE!
the attacks are coming from every angle imaginable and then a few more. this is insanity!
I got yer kill switch right here
something to make you go hmmmm
America as Texas vs. California: Who’s Moving Where Edition
Thanks to an interesting interactive map at Forbes.com, we now can see some visual evidence of the trends we have been discussing. The map shows county migration in the United States in pictorial form. Black lines show inward migration to a county, and red lines show outward migration. The thicker the line, the higher the volume.
If we look at Harris County, Texas, where Houston is located, we can practically hear a giant sucking sound as the state’s largest city pulls people southward from the northeast, the Midwest, and elsewhere. Most of the outmigration is regional, with some identifiable patterns to the upper northwest. You get a similar picture when you look at the migration patterns to Dallas and Austin.
Now, in a departure from the theme of the series, Detroit (Wayne County, Michigan) was so vividly depressing that I simply have to include it. Hardly anything shows the tragic effects of bad policy and under-performing industry than the picture below.
(that Detroit picture really makes you go WOW!)
This idiot escaped from a village has his nose into everything.EVERYTHING. No way could he be doing all this crap that we cannot even keep up with it without some preconceived recipe, OR his used car czars are really busy while he golfs, dances and looks for pies.
@ Rodan:
I’m not only a ‘member’, I’m a former ‘flouncer’ – registered here last year. I stopped posting for quite awhile – few were interested in what I had to say so I decided to take a back seat and be contented with just reading. But thank you for saying ‘hey’ !
Kirly wrote:
YEAH you do. Now pull the damm thing.
Grimcargo wrote:
It looks like he is making a statement that he is not going to just go along with the crowd of imbeciles.
I admire him. I’m so glad he didn’t shun Israel.
chickadee wrote:
Me to. It’s huge since he has such a following.Probadly people who don’t even know where Israel is. Those little shitty countries that are sticking the knife in Israel better think back to …Kuwait.And they better realize there is no Bush in office now.
Kirly wrote:
You are so right to be concerned about the border issues. When a government appears to be letting this slide, you have to wonder what they think their job is.
Grimcargo wrote:
Oh noes….
@ Grimcargo:
Correction: I do believe in an MSM ‘conspiracy’.This ‘disaster’ is nothing new. Watch this video:
http://www.wimp.com/oilspills/
Its hard to get through as maddow is just so freakin’ annoying but it might help with the ‘conspiracy’ thinking.
PaladinPhil wrote:
well well where do the Muslims come in with all that
Oh, and by the way, nobody is going to be setting off a nuke to block the well.
Silliest thing I’ve heard on this matter since the Nork sub torpedoing the rig story.
4_Sticks wrote:
Well I watched that whole thing.She is right of course. but the fact is, there is no way in hell one can guarantee there will never be another leak like this.No way. Just like the coal mining accidents.
(to rachel Madcow..Shut up you stupid ******)
Mike C. wrote:
Isn’t that the truth!
@ Mike C.:
That thing about the ruptured casing came from The Oil Drum, which I tend to think is about as credible as WND. What’s your opinion; is that even possible?
snork wrote:
i read that snork. and i thought that they made it very clear right up front that the speculation was based on way too little information. and so i took it that way – a theory based on what very small amount of actual data is out there. what we need is someone on the inside to tell us some truth.
Nevergiveup wrote:
A BBS is an independent entity of the internet. I used to run one back in the early 90′s and was a fido:NET hub. The government can kill the internet if they want, but when guys go back to slapping together a computer and having a phone line hooked up to it they’re going to start running into issues to close it down, unless they start cutting off phone service to everyone. BBS’s were the precursor to the net for the techheads back in the late 70′s through to the late 90′s. There’s still a few in operation as well, though not as popular as they used to be. The communities of diehard tech enthusiasts are running strong still, I’d say it’s almost akin to HAM operators, but slower.
And every computer still has telnet on it.
Personally I expect to see encrypted darknets start to spring up in the next 3-8 years. Independent local darknets have been the rage in most of asia for the last 10 years, where broadband is super cheap and fast(10/100 for $30/mo), and you can throw an ethernet cable 15ft and hook in, or get access via an encrypted WAP.