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Obamacare Mandate now a Tax

by Rodan ( 129 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Health Care, Liberal Fascism, Progressives, Tranzis at June 18th, 2010 - 4:30 pm

One of the key components of the Eugenics based Obamacare laws is the personal mandate. This mandate forces individual Americans to buy health insurance. This would be the first time that the federal government forces American citizens to buy a product. Many states are now suing the Federal government over this mandate. One of Obama’s selling points was that there will be no tax increase for those making under 200,000 with Obamacare. He lied because the Justice Department is now fighting back against these lawsuits on the grounds that the mandates are Taxes!

In order to protect the new national health care law from legal challenges, the Obama administration has been forced to argue that the individual mandate represents a tax — even though Obama himself argued the exact opposite while campaigning to pass the legislation.

Late last night, the Obama Department of Justice filed a motion to dismiss the Florida-based lawsuit against the health care law, arguing that the court lacks jurisdiction and that the State of Florida and fellow plaintiffs haven’t presented a claim for which the court can grant relief. To bolster its case, the DOJ cited the Anti-Injunction Act, which restricts courts from interfering with the government’s ability to collect taxes.

Read the rest: Obama Admin. Argues in Court That Individual Mandate Is a Tax

Progressives will lie to get what they want because their Ideology is based on lies.

(Hat Tip: Huckfunn)

News Update: Obama is now calling on G-20 Governments to keep spending money! Clearly he wants to collapse the Global system because that will be the end result of this accumalation of debt. This is the Cloward-Piven strategy on a global scale.

Washington – US President Barack Obama urged other world powers to keep up public spending levels or risk eroding the global economic recovery , in a letter to other Group of 20 (G20) leaders obtained by the German Press Agency dpa Thursday.  With many European governments saddled by debt and announcing major austerity plans, Obama warned that the world’s recovery from a deep recession last year remained extremely fragile.

‘We worked exceptionally hard to restore growth; we cannot let it falter or lose strength now,’ Obama warned in the letter.

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129 Responses to “Obamacare Mandate now a Tax”
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  1. citizen_q
    1 | June 18, 2010 4:32 pm

    Of it is a tax. Aren’t “collections” being handled by the IRS?


  2. citizen_q
    2 | June 18, 2010 4:33 pm

    PIMF! Of course it is a tax.


  3. vagabond trader
    3 | June 18, 2010 4:44 pm

    Barack Insane Obama, ummm ummm ummm.


  4. citizen_q
    4 | June 18, 2010 4:48 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Barack Insane Obama, ummm ummm ummm.

    We’re screw-oooo-oooo-oooo-ed


  5. BuddyG
    5 | June 18, 2010 4:48 pm

    I’ll refuse to buy health insurance to force the feds to put me in jail where I’ll get free health care!


  6. justin case
    6 | June 18, 2010 4:50 pm

    what you gonna do when the blind obama voters are the majority, and he can do no wrong
    civil war.


  7. coldwarrior
    7 | June 18, 2010 4:54 pm

    Late last night, the Obama Department of Justice filed a motion to dismiss the Florida-based lawsuit against the health care law, arguing that the court lacks jurisdiction and that the State of Florida and fellow plaintiffs haven’t presented a claim for which the court can grant relief. To bolster its case, the DOJ cited the Anti-Injunction Act, which restricts courts from interfering with the government’s ability to collect taxes.

    but…but…but…the dems PROMISED that this wasnt a tax.


  8. vagabond trader
    8 | June 18, 2010 4:57 pm

    I see this as desperation and a signal that we are on the correct track suing their weak arses. No way this was presented as a tax,its on the record. Hammer time. :-)


  9. coldwarrior
    9 | June 18, 2010 4:58 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    democrat (latin)- a person who is both a whore and a liar.


  10. citizen_q
    10 | June 18, 2010 4:58 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Dem promises and $4.50 will get you a latte at Starbucks.


  11. spinmore
    11 | June 18, 2010 5:01 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    I see this as desperation and a signal that we are on the correct track suing their weak arses. No way this was presented as a tax,its on the record. Hammer time.

    so how will the LameStream cover this ‘huge’ story?

    Did you select (d. crickets)?


  12. vagabond trader
    12 | June 18, 2010 5:01 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    No kidding,as if we believed anything about the entire fraud.


  13. coldwarrior
    13 | June 18, 2010 5:03 pm

    this needs to become a massive, national campaign tv commercial for november.

    hammer them relentlessly…


  14. vagabond trader
    14 | June 18, 2010 5:03 pm

    @ spinmore:

    Never mind them,lets hope the attorneys presenting our case are better than the Haaaaarvard geniuses we’re up against.Somehow I think they are.


  15. spinmore
    15 | June 18, 2010 5:05 pm

    @ vagabond trader:
    i’m wit u


  16. RIX
    16 | June 18, 2010 5:09 pm

    The Administration has to argue that this is a tax in order to establish their jurisdiction & deny the states standing.
    Never mind that this argues against Obama while selling it.

    To me this is the money quote,

    One of the key components of the Eugenics based Obamacare laws is the personal mandate.

    Look at the people around Obama & his personal failure to protect infants born of botched abortions. Palin is right.


  17. 17 | June 18, 2010 5:16 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I agree, plus his calling for the G-20 to keep spending reveals his agenda.


  18. coldwarrior
    19 | June 18, 2010 5:20 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I agree, plus his calling for the G-20 to keep spending reveals his agenda.

    i hope the right doesnt drop the ball on this.


  19. vagabond trader
    20 | June 18, 2010 5:22 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    We know the R wimmin folk won’t!Time for the others to man up. :-)


  20. 21 | June 18, 2010 5:22 pm

    i hope the right doesn’t drop the ball on this.

    I agree, the Right doesn’t go for the kill!


  21. coldwarrior
    22 | June 18, 2010 5:24 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    We know the R wimmin folk won’t!Time for the others to man up.

    and thank god with conservative women that actually have the guts to call out these lefties.


  22. 23 | June 18, 2010 5:25 pm

    Obama seems to have read Nouriel Roubini’s book “Crisis Economics” – and, as usual, has adopted its very worst idea. (It’s a good book otherwise, as far as I can tell.)

    Roubini suggests that China ought to be encouraging domestic consumption. As some of you know, I was born English, and apart from our demonstrated ability to, um, hold Algeria to a 0-0 tie we do have additional experience in encouraging China to increase domestic consumption. This was known as the Opium War and it is not considered a high point in British history.

    It’s a dumb idea for the simple reason that it’s not our @#$% place to be telling other nations what to do internally, especially if what they’re doing internally is something we should be doing internally ourselves.


  23. 24 | June 18, 2010 5:25 pm

    The real kicker comes in a couple of years when people suddenly realize that contrary to Obama’s promises they will lose their private/employer-paid health insurance. It is only a matter of time. The program is set up to slowly strangle private insurance until the people scream for a public option. It is ingeneous, if you happen to be turned that way. That is one reason that I say Obama is (pretty much) getting exactly what he wants with everything. It took some wringing, but he got ObamaCare. That is more damage than Clinton was able to rack up in his two terms. He’s destroying our foreign policy, losing a war, and now fucking up the entire Gulf of Mexico. Quite the wins, for someone who’s goal is the destruction of this country.


  24. 25 | June 18, 2010 5:27 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Hey CJ is bashing Sarah Palin because she admitted to smoking weed and she doesn’t think weed is an issue. A Jazz Artist against Weed?


  25. 26 | June 18, 2010 5:28 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    Jinx :mrgreen:


  26. 27 | June 18, 2010 5:28 pm

    @ Zimriel:

    It’s a dumb idea for the simple reason that it’s not our @#$% place to be telling other nations what to do internally, especially if what they’re doing internally is something we should be doing internally ourselves.

    Agreed!


  27. 28 | June 18, 2010 5:30 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Late last night, the Obama Department of Justice filed a motion to dismiss the Florida-based lawsuit against the health care law, arguing that the court lacks jurisdiction and that the State of Florida and fellow plaintiffs haven’t presented a claim for which the court can grant relief. To bolster its case, the DOJ cited the Anti-Injunction Act, which restricts courts from interfering with the government’s ability to collect taxes.

    but…but…but…the dems PROMISED that this wasnt a tax.

    Barry has made many a promise he had absolutely no intention of even considering keeping. He said it knowing the masses would have little recourse when the actual implementation started.


  28. vagabond trader
    29 | June 18, 2010 5:31 pm

    If you have decent insurance and have been putting off treatments or surgery,now would be a good time to get it over with. G-d forbid this monster takes hold there will be strict rationing of care. Guaranteed.


  29. coldwarrior
    30 | June 18, 2010 5:31 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Hey CJ is bashing Sarah Palin because she admitted to smoking weed and she doesn’t think weed is an issue. A Jazz Artist against Weed?

    naaahh, chuckster is all about the meth, man.

    dope is bad, mmmkay.


  30. 31 | June 18, 2010 5:31 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    The real kicker comes in a couple of years when people suddenly realize that contrary to Obama’s promises they will lose their private/employer-paid health insurance. It is only a matter of time. The program is set up to slowly strangle private insurance until the people scream for a public option. It is ingeneous, if you happen to be turned that way. That is one reason that I say Obama is (pretty much) getting exactly what he wants with everything. It took some wringing, but he got ObamaCare. That is more damage than Clinton was able to rack up in his two terms. He’s destroying our foreign policy, losing a war, and now fucking up the entire Gulf of Mexico. Quite the wins, for someone who’s goal is the destruction of this country.

    And he did it in less than 2 years with the help and assistance of a very complicit Congress.


  31. coldwarrior
    32 | June 18, 2010 5:32 pm

    @ Zimriel:

    be glad the chinese arent listening to roubini.


  32. 33 | June 18, 2010 5:33 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Hey CJ is bashing Sarah Palin because she admitted to smoking weed and she doesn’t think weed is an issue. A Jazz Artist against Weed?

    SChmuck just wants to bash Sarah. If she had admitted she had smoked pot and said it was a bad thing SChmuck would still be trashing her, this time for hypocrisy.


  33. vagabond trader
    34 | June 18, 2010 5:33 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    For us yankees its “owe me a coke!” :D


  34. coldwarrior
    35 | June 18, 2010 5:34 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    i cant wait to explain that to the p/ts that voted for him.


  35. 36 | June 18, 2010 5:37 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    If you have decent insurance and have been putting off treatments or surgery,now would be a good time to get it over with. G-d forbid this monster takes hold there will be strict rationing of care. Guaranteed.

    The VA system is on the verge of DEMANDING veterans carry private insurance; now it is asked EVERY time a vet comes in for an appointment or treatment. Forget the fact that all of my income comes from my VA disability, having to carry private insurance would wipe out near total the money I receive for getting disabled in the line of duty.


  36. snork
    37 | June 18, 2010 5:40 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    I see this as desperation and a signal that we are on the correct track suing their weak arses. No way this was presented as a tax,its on the record. Hammer time.

    Agreed. They just fooked themselves politically. Repeal just became a whole lot more feasible.


  37. vagabond trader
    38 | June 18, 2010 5:40 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Just heard on the local news that a 5000 patient ob-gyn practice just up and locked its doors. No announcement,just gone. Seems the state and fed payments were not coming in. How the he11 is this beast going to help. I cannot recall a large practice going down in flames around here.


  38. coldwarrior
    39 | June 18, 2010 5:41 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    and ya wonder how many times the VA can mess with vets before it effects recruiting.


  39. snork
    40 | June 18, 2010 5:41 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:

    We know the R wimmin folk won’t!Time for the others to man up.

    Time for the D women to man up? Janet Reno wouldn’t have ever gotten herself into this mess… :P


  40. 41 | June 18, 2010 5:42 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    A Jazz Artist against Weed?

    Whether marijuana ought to be a priority in our War On Some Drugs, Palin speaks here for most of the Americas west of Mississippi.

    I recall amongst CJ’s attempts to bring on a flamewar in his own site, he proposed legalisation of weed (5 April 2009 – I ain’t linking to that here). The only regular poster that attempt flushed out was Zombie. The rest of the lizards agreed with CJ because, duh, it was a site filled with followers of a jazz artist, conservative or not.

    Shouldn’t CJ be praising Palin?


  41. 42 | June 18, 2010 5:42 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Just heard on the local news that a 5000 patient ob-gyn practice just up and locked its doors. No announcement,just gone. Seems the state and fed payments were not coming in. How the he11 is this beast going to help. I cannot recall a large practice going down in flames around here.

    This was also part of the plan that will socialize/nationalize doctors and other care providers into a government-run collective.


  42. coldwarrior
    43 | June 18, 2010 5:42 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Just heard on the local news that a 5000 patient ob-gyn practice just up and locked its doors. No announcement,just gone. Seems the state and fed payments were not coming in. How the he11 is this beast going to help. I cannot recall a large practice going down in flames around here.

    obama et al will just import a bunch of jihadis with questionable licenses that will work for cheap…problem solved, allahhuakkkkbar, boom


  43. 44 | June 18, 2010 5:45 pm

    @ Zimriel:

    Shouldn’t CJ be praising Palin?

    Anything to smear Palin. I’m on the Libertarian side of things so I’m for legalization.


  44. 45 | June 18, 2010 5:45 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    and ya wonder how many times the VA can mess with vets before it effects recruiting.

    Vets have already served their time, so screwing us is almost a requirement so Congress can hold hearings to throw more money at the administrators to piss away on things other than actually providing world-class care.


  45. coldwarrior
    46 | June 18, 2010 5:47 pm

    pick from 2 of these 3 healthcare parameters

    fast

    high quality

    cheap

    good luck


  46. 47 | June 18, 2010 5:47 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Yup Doctors from Syria and Pakistan. That’s the plan!


  47. vagabond trader
    48 | June 18, 2010 5:47 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    My brother is in a similar situation. He receives a pitiful SS check and no way can he even afford medicare.Right now they are treating him for cancer so hopefully they won’t press the issue.We’re grateful for the good care he has received but that could change in a snap.Guess the worries won’t stop until its dirt nap time. :sad:


  48. 49 | June 18, 2010 5:48 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Zimriel:
    Shouldn’t CJ be praising Palin?
    Anything to smear Palin. I’m on the Libertarian side of things so I’m for legalization.

    Seattle’s new Mayor McGinn had balls to give the real reason why he supports legalizing pot, the tax revenues the city would get from the increased sales.

    One of the reasons I’m for legalizing pot to get organized crime out of the picture.


  49. vagabond trader
    50 | June 18, 2010 5:50 pm

    @ snork:

    You know who I meant! Teh R men! :mrgreen:


  50. 51 | June 18, 2010 5:51 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    One of the reasons I’m for legalizing pot to get organized crime out of the picture.

    Exactly, just apply the same laws that exist for Alcohol to Weed.


  51. coldwarrior
    52 | June 18, 2010 5:51 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Yup Doctors from Syria and Pakistan. That’s the plan!

    they wont be such a thorn in the side of obamacare, the jihadi’s will gladly come here and ‘treat’ the heathens…just like the drs in scotland that did the bombing.

    see, obama gets cheap drs, and the ummah gets infiltrating terrorists into america, its a win win for the caliphate!


  52. 53 | June 18, 2010 5:52 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    My brother is in a similar situation. He receives a pitiful SS check and no way can he even afford medicare.Right now they are treating him for cancer so hopefully they won’t press the issue.We’re grateful for the good care he has received but that could change in a snap.Guess the worries won’t stop until its dirt nap time.

    Earlier this week I received a call from the VA that I might have colo-rectal cancer, coupled with the downhill standards of care visible through the VA system since January 2009, and with the possibility I might have to spend all my available money to pay for health-care insurance to pay for less care than I used to receive for free, I am less than a happy camper.

    One good thing is I will get to use the new government diet plan; no money for food.


  53. chickadee
    54 | June 18, 2010 5:54 pm

    Everywhere you look and see gov. trying to manage and control, you see failure. You see waste. You see bungling. You see graft and fraud. There is no way in hell we are going to get proper medical care from the gov.
    In fact, I think zero sees his Hell Care plan as a way to actually punish Americans. He is out to even the score with us down right mean people. Make us pay for all our past wrongs. i really did not like the way he read, with such intense passion, that fcked up rev. wright quote.
    “White folk’s greed runs a world in need.”
    zero is a sick and bitter vindictive person.


  54. snork
    55 | June 18, 2010 5:55 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    Seattle’s new Mayor McGinn had balls to give the real reason why he supports legalizing pot, the tax revenues the city would get from the increased sales.

    One of the reasons I’m for legalizing pot to get organized crime out of the picture.

    And I’m for it, because a stoned hippy is an immobilized hippy.


  55. coldwarrior
    56 | June 18, 2010 5:55 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    One of the reasons I’m for legalizing pot to get organized crime out of the picture.
    Exactly, just apply the same laws that exist for Alcohol to Weed.

    weed being illegal is just silly, legalize it.


  56. vagabond trader
    57 | June 18, 2010 5:57 pm

    @ Rodan:
    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    One big problem I see is private use and cartels will continue to grow their own.There goes the tax revenue and crime will still flourish. Its not like good liquor beer or wine, which isn’t likely to come out of your back yard or someone elses field. The legal price would have to undercut the illegal one.Since I have no trust in pols I doubt they would be willing to give up their kick backs either.


  57. coldwarrior
    58 | June 18, 2010 5:59 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    i just see no reason for peeps to be in jail on possession et cetera charges for marijuana.


  58. 59 | June 18, 2010 6:01 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    If nothing else, it would free up police resources that would bve better spent tackling things like, I dunno, illegal immigration or something.


  59. 60 | June 18, 2010 6:02 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    One big problem I see is private use and cartels will continue to grow their own.There goes the tax revenue and crime will still flourish. Its not like good liquor beer or wine, which isn’t likely to come out of your back yard or someone elses field. The legal price would have to undercut the illegal one.Since I have no trust in pols I doubt they would be willing to give up their kick backs either.

    The thing that killed the mob-run speak-easies and illegal booze running/making was private industry was able to outproduce at a cheaper price that organized crime could not match. With Barry and Progressives repudiating capitalism will ensure a black market whether legalization happen or not.


  60. coldwarrior
    61 | June 18, 2010 6:02 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    it takes a little more than backyard tomoato growin knowledge to grow high quality stuff.

    i can build a still and make whiskey (i have mad skillz), but it wont be as good as the professional distilled stuff


  61. 62 | June 18, 2010 6:02 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Hey CJ is bashing Sarah Palin because she admitted to smoking weed and she doesn’t think weed is an issue. A Jazz Artist against Weed?

    But if she did smoke weed, it didnt have the same effect as it had on his big fat arse. And I guarantee she don’t have orange overalls.


  62. 63 | June 18, 2010 6:03 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ vagabond trader:
    it takes a little more than backyard tomoato growin knowledge to grow high quality stuff.
    i can build a still and make whiskey (i have mad skillz), but it wont be as good as the professional distilled stuff

    just add two possums


  63. vagabond trader
    64 | June 18, 2010 6:04 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Not for smoking it. Selling,I’m not so thrilled with. It is part and parcel if you deal you are involved with very nasty types,unavoidable.

    Back in the day I worked with an oncologist who prescribed for his younger CA patients. We even allowed them to smoke in their private rooms.It was fragrant. :mrgreen:


  64. 65 | June 18, 2010 6:05 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ vagabond trader:
    it takes a little more than backyard tomoato growin knowledge to grow high quality stuff.
    i can build a still and make whiskey (i have mad skillz), but it wont be as good as the professional distilled stuff

    When stuff is illegal, people are not picky about quality.


  65. coldwarrior
    66 | June 18, 2010 6:06 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    When stuff is illegal, people are not picky about quality.

    precisely.


  66. chickadee
    67 | June 18, 2010 6:07 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    {FOGJ} I hope they are wrong with that ” possibility. ‘ Prayers for you to be fine and healthy.


  67. vagabond trader
    68 | June 18, 2010 6:08 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    Ummm no comment. :roll:


  68. 69 | June 18, 2010 6:08 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    It is part and parcel if you deal you are involved with very nasty types,unavoidable.

    And with legalization being a dealer would mean getting involved with government tax authorities.

    ICK, ICK, ICK. Very nasty types, indeed!


  69. 70 | June 18, 2010 6:10 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Barack Insane Obama, ummm ummm ummm.

    We’re screw-oooo-oooo-oooo-ed

    come on now, get it right. we’re dooo-oooo-oooo-oooomed.


  70. coldwarrior
    71 | June 18, 2010 6:11 pm

    @ Kirly:

    :lol:

    DOOOOOMMMMEDDDDDD!!!11ty

    kirly(tm)


  71. 72 | June 18, 2010 6:11 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    When things are illegal, it guarantees violence will follow. The only means you have of contract enforcement are illegal, i.e. violence. Competition for territory can’t rely on legit means, so competition turns violent as well. In the ’30s you had rum-runners shooting each other up with Thompson submachineguns over territory and the like. Ever heard of the Bud delivery truck driver shooting at the Coors guy? What about people wasting each other over coke? The drug war has been going on all of my life, and it has been a spectacular failure, while the drug runners just keep raking in the dough and expanding their business. When will we decide to try another direction?


  72. coldwarrior
    73 | June 18, 2010 6:12 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    vagabond trader wrote:
    It is part and parcel if you deal you are involved with very nasty types,unavoidable.
    And with legalization being a dealer would mean getting involved with government tax authorities.
    ICK, ICK, ICK. Very nasty types, indeed!

    YUCK…revenuers.


  73. spinmore
    74 | June 18, 2010 6:13 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    joe kennedy wouldn’t have done that . . . would he?


  74. buzzsawmonkey
    75 | June 18, 2010 6:16 pm

    Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan compares the NRA to the KKK.

    KKK Kagan
    —apologies to Geoffrey O’Hara and “K-K-K Katy”

    Barack needed a Justice bold
    Kagan was who he chose to be sold
    He thought she’d belong
    He’d known Kagan pretty long
    At Chicago and at Harvard, too
    Barack knew that she should be the one
    ‘Cause she shared his dislike of guns
    She’d equate the NRA
    To the racist KKK
    And restrict gun rights she’d try to do

    “KKK Kagan, Elena Kagan
    You’re the nominee that I prefer
    And when we c-c-c count votes
    At the C-c-c Capitol
    You’ll make the people’s rights less than they were.”


  75. 76 | June 18, 2010 6:17 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:
    vagabond trader wrote:
    It is part and parcel if you deal you are involved with very nasty types,unavoidable.
    And with legalization being a dealer would mean getting involved with government tax authorities.
    ICK, ICK, ICK. Very nasty types, indeed!

    YUCK…revenuers.

    Just remember the first crisis the new Federal Government had was during Geo. Washington’s Presidency with the “Whiskey Rebellion“.


  76. 77 | June 18, 2010 6:17 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Not a very, um, judicial remark, was it? Not that she would let rank PREJUDICE affect her decisions, you understand…


  77. snork
    78 | June 18, 2010 6:20 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan compares the NRA to the KKK.

    Un-Mata Hari?


  78. 79 | June 18, 2010 6:21 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Kagan is making me miss Harriet Miers.


  79. coldwarrior
    80 | June 18, 2010 6:22 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    Just remember the first crisis the new Federal Government had was during Geo. Washington’s Presidency with the “Whiskey Rebellion“.

    i live where the whiskey rebellion happened.


  80. vagabond trader
  81. 82 | June 18, 2010 6:33 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Then I guess I didn’t really need to remind you of the history of the tax revolt, did I? ;)


  82. buzzsawmonkey
    83 | June 18, 2010 6:33 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    i live where the whiskey rebellion happened.

    Interesting. I live where the whiskey consumption happens.


  83. buzzsawmonkey
    84 | June 18, 2010 6:34 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Gee,another commie experiment goes belly up.

    Who would have guessed that North Korea would be a beacon of faminism?


  84. 85 | June 18, 2010 6:35 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Gee,another commie experiment goes belly up.

    Don’t change one whit the future Barry and the Dems have in store for us. This time the elites will get it right. //


  85. coldwarrior
    86 | June 18, 2010 6:35 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Then I guess I didn’t really need to remind you of the history of the tax revolt, did I?

    no, sir. you dont!


  86. 87 | June 18, 2010 6:38 pm

    Boy who made banned toy-soldier hat gets medal

    EAST PROVIDENCE, R.I. – A Rhode Island boy whose school banned a hat he made because the toy soldiers on it carried tiny guns was awarded a medal on Friday for his patriotic efforts.


  87. vagabond trader
    88 | June 18, 2010 6:38 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    :lol:


  88. coldwarrior
    89 | June 18, 2010 6:39 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    i live where the whiskey rebellion happened.
    Interesting. I live where the whiskey consumption happens.

    :lol:

    martinis for me thanks!

    cheers!


  89. 90 | June 18, 2010 6:39 pm

    Drunk Texas officer fires gun into squad-car floor

    DALLAS – A Dallas police officer is on leave after firing her gun into a squad car floor when colleagues tried to drive her home from a bar where she’d drank too much while off duty.


  90. coldwarrior
    91 | June 18, 2010 6:40 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Then I guess I didn’t really need to remind you of the history of the tax revolt, did I?

    that is the reason i know how to make and use a still, a few of us decided to ‘commemorate’ the whiskey rebellion and ‘re-enact’ some aspects of it for a few days.


  91. 92 | June 18, 2010 6:42 pm

    Oh, this just cries out for a “Caption This!”

    Barry Grimaces


  92. citizen_q
    93 | June 18, 2010 6:42 pm

    What a soulless shill for the administration juan williams is.


  93. buzzsawmonkey
    94 | June 18, 2010 6:42 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Martinis are good, too. Haven’t had one in a while; must remedy that.

    Good Shabbos, all.


  94. citizen_q
    95 | June 18, 2010 6:43 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    Oh, this just cries out for a “Caption This!”
    Barry Grimaces

    Ooops just pooped me pants.


  95. buzzsawmonkey
    96 | June 18, 2010 6:43 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    Oh, this just cries out for a “Caption This!”

    Barry Grimaces

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! My eyes! My eyes!


  96. vagabond trader
    97 | June 18, 2010 6:43 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Ditto!


  97. 98 | June 18, 2010 6:43 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    that is the reason i know how to make and use a still, a few of us decided to ‘commemorate’ the whiskey rebellion and ‘re-enact’ some aspects of it for a few days.

    Did you enjoy the fruits of your labor from the re-enactment?


  98. 99 | June 18, 2010 6:44 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    What a soulless shill for the administration juan williams is.

    You just now discovering that little fact, eh?


  99. spinmore
    100 | June 18, 2010 6:45 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    Boy who made banned toy-soldier hat gets medal
    EAST PROVIDENCE, R.I. – A Rhode Island boy whose school banned a hat he made because the toy soldiers on it carried tiny guns was awarded a medal on Friday for his patriotic efforts.

    excellent. the kid will hopefully get more of this positive reinforcemnet from others, he is our future. Great end to a disgusting story.


  100. citizen_q
    101 | June 18, 2010 6:46 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:
    What a soulless shill for the administration juan williams is.

    You just now discovering that little fact, eh?

    Of course not. Just venting by stating the obvious.


  101. coldwarrior
    102 | June 18, 2010 6:46 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    that is the reason i know how to make and use a still, a few of us decided to ‘commemorate’ the whiskey rebellion and ‘re-enact’ some aspects of it for a few days.
    Did you enjoy the fruits of your labor from the re-enactment?

    it was awful, but effective.


  102. 103 | June 18, 2010 6:46 pm

    Boy, 9, invents better buns for brats

    CHIPPEWA FALLS, Wis., June 16 (UPI) — A Wisconsin father said curved bratwurst buns designed by his 9-year-old son earned the boy an inventor’s prize as well as some cash from selling the food.


  103. 104 | June 18, 2010 6:48 pm

    @ citizen_q:
    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    This one made me laugh, Goofy Bush.


  104. citizen_q
    105 | June 18, 2010 6:48 pm

    spinmore wrote:

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:
    Boy who made banned toy-soldier hat gets medal
    EAST PROVIDENCE, R.I. – A Rhode Island boy whose school banned a hat he made because the toy soldiers on it carried tiny guns was awarded a medal on Friday for his patriotic efforts.
    excellent. the kid will hopefully get more of this positive reinforcemnet from others, he is our future. Great end to a disgusting story.

    I almost thank G-d, that I don’t have kids and have to deal with that type of insanity.


  105. buzzsawmonkey
    106 | June 18, 2010 6:49 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    For G-d’s sake, don’t let Kevin Jennings know. A young boy and “bratwurst buns” might get him all excited.


  106. RIX
    107 | June 18, 2010 6:49 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    Boy, 9, invents better buns for brats
    CHIPPEWA FALLS, Wis., June 16 (UPI) — A Wisconsin father said curved bratwurst buns designed by his 9-year-old son earned the boy an inventor’s prize as well as some cash from selling the food.

    Yah hey dere, only in Wisconsin.


  107. spinmore
    108 | June 18, 2010 6:50 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    they’re defective (i tried them) my brat went one way and the bun went the other . . . very frustrating


  108. 109 | June 18, 2010 6:50 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:
    citizen_q wrote:

    What a soulless shill for the administration juan williams is.
    You just now discovering that little fact, eh?

    Of course not. Just venting by stating the obvious.

    Juan is yet another reason why I have stopped watching any cablenews channel, even Fox. Asshattery is not pretty.


  109. citizen_q
    110 | June 18, 2010 6:50 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    That is not what I expected. \


  110. Nevergiveup
  111. 112 | June 18, 2010 6:52 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    Achmadinijiad! You promised you wouldn’t cum in my mouth!


  112. 113 | June 18, 2010 6:52 pm

    @ spinmore:
    I just report the news I run across, I don’t editorialize or attempt to interpret it as journalists do.


  113. citizen_q
    114 | June 18, 2010 6:52 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    That is probably the best choice, however I do like Charles Karuthammer.


  114. chickadee
    115 | June 18, 2010 6:53 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    If you have decent insurance and have been putting off treatments or surgery,now would be a good time to get it over with. G-d forbid this monster takes hold there will be strict rationing of care. Guaranteed.

    A friend of mine went into the hospital this morning for open heart surgery. He is 52 years old with 5 clogged arteries. ( I just talked to his wife, everything went fine.) I think he was anxious to get this done for the very reasons you mention. He wanted the procedure while he still had insurance and before Hell Care kicked in. I’m wondering what kind of uptick in medical procedures we are going to be seeing soon.


  115. 116 | June 18, 2010 6:54 pm

    @ citizen_q:
    I pulled both pictures from this:

    Politicians make the funniest faces (22 images)


  116. 117 | June 18, 2010 6:55 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    That is probably the best choice, however I do like Charles Karuthammer.

    I can get my Krauthammer “fix” by reading his columns.


  117. spinmore
    118 | June 18, 2010 6:56 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    @ spinmore:
    I just report the news I run across, I don’t editorialize or attempt to interpret it as journalists do.

    . . . i found out later that i tried using lefthanded buns with righthanded bratwurst (big mistake) :D


  118. citizen_q
    119 | June 18, 2010 6:57 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    I pulled both pictures from this:
    Politicians make the funniest faces (22 images)

    My eye was immediately drawn to this


  119. buzzsawmonkey
    120 | June 18, 2010 6:58 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    The US was represented by a set of nesting Russian dolls, carrying the painted likenesses of Rahm Emanuel, Hillary Clinton, Cass Sunstein, and other administration lights.


  120. 121 | June 18, 2010 6:58 pm

    spinmore wrote:

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    @ spinmore:
    I just report the news I run across, I don’t editorialize or attempt to interpret it as journalists do.

    . . . i found out later that i tried using lefthanded buns with righthanded bratwurst (big mistake)

    I am still trying to find a left-handed hammer.


  121. citizen_q
    122 | June 18, 2010 6:59 pm

    Then again I was wondering what they were serving here.


  122. lobo91
    123 | June 18, 2010 7:00 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan compares the NRA to the KKK.

    She’s apparently not too bright, either:

    The bill in question was the Volunteer Protection Act, which, when it was passed and signed the following year, protected some non-profits’ volunteer workers from tort liability in certain cases. The administration worried that it would apply to volunteers from unlikable non-profits.

    Two documents discovered at the William J. Clinton Presidential Library and obtained by National Review suggest that Kagan was involved in these discussions. One does not contain her name, but the handwriting appears to be hers. (You can see an example of Kagan’s handwriting here.) It has the name of administration colleague Fran Allegra at the top, and lists two “Bad guy orgs” that might be covered — the NRA and the KKK.

    Did she seriously believe that the KKK has an official status as a non-profit group?


  123. lobo91
    124 | June 18, 2010 7:02 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Then again I was wondering what they were serving here.

    Looks like they’re trying to imitate kangaroos.


  124. spinmore
    125 | June 18, 2010 7:03 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Then again I was wondering what they were serving here.

    How much is that doggy in the window?


  125. snork
    126 | June 18, 2010 7:27 pm

    @ lobo91:
    The klan was sued out of existence in 1987. They also weren’t keen on gun rights for Blacks.

    Only an academic could be so ignorant.


  126. 127 | June 18, 2010 7:27 pm

    Carter just said America’s best days were over, Barry’s doing the actual grunt work to make it happen.


  127. 128 | June 18, 2010 7:29 pm

    spinmore wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:
    Then again I was wondering what they were serving here.
    How much is that doggy in the window?

    Shouldn’t that be “how much is that doggy in the wok?”


  128. huckfunn
    129 | June 18, 2010 7:33 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Thanks for the Hat Tip. Not sure how I earned this one, but I shall nonetheless add it to my trophy case.


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