This morning, get your coffee and walk back into the UCLA lecture hall where Prof Eugen Weber’s Lectures on Early Christianity in the Roman Empire ,(you may to follow the links out to the video). Roman culture begins to fail, the Stoics lose their grip over the ruling class. The people in these hard times look for ‘salous’- the health of the soul aka: salvation instead of the ascetic rationality of stoicism that valued virtue, wisdom, and strength. The more the disorder in the Empire grew the less relevant rationality was.
Meanwhile, the Hellenistic and Jewish influence act on Early Christianity while Christianity grows and acts to change the contemporary world from 100-400AD.
Do feel free to get caught back up if you missed the earlier lectures on the Rise of Rome and the Engineering of Rome. Professor Weber ‘s main point is that Early Christianity spread despite contempt and persecution from Rome.
Tags: Christianity, History, saturday lecture series, western tradition
This is very important. The idea that Christianity in it’s essence is a subversive religion. It was not and should not be a state religion. We lost something important in Constantine’s adoption of it. At it’s heart, it is not a faith built for this world. When there is a comfortable relationship between the secular and the Christian, it may benefit the secular -- inculcating a moral system -- but the Christian loses the necessary separation from the world.
@ Qob:
After all, the LORD’s Kingdom is not of this world.
a very interesting point that weber brings up is that judaism remains mostly unchanged while the hellenistic and judaic traditions form early christianity’s basic ideas
I wonder how Isaiah got his Hellenistic influence.
the hellenistic influnce on christianity is from rome
the judaic influence is from the fact that one had to be a jew before one could be a christian.
two separate influences acting on one
file this under things that make you go….”gulp”
The First OILCANE Will Be Worse Than Anything We’ve Seen
…Should a major hurricane push the spill towards the gulf coast there will be nothing that can be done to stop it. No amount of planning or engineering will help. No number of visits to the gulf by the president or any other official will stop the inevitable. The storm surge will drive the water and the oil miles inland. Everything in its path will be coated in a greasy bath of crude. Even the wind may have oil in it. In New England, I have seen hurricanes and tropical storms that have blown salt spray many miles inland from the coast. The leaves of the trees eventually turn brown and fall off. In the case of the gulf it will be oil that will spray the trees, buildings and everything else in the way. How far inland this oily mess will blow is anyone’s guess but it will be unprecedented in its economic and environmental damage
NEWSFLASH -- - -
Rain of Lead warns of Rain of Oil
more at eleven
@ spinmore:
@ spinmore:
roflmao
get ready for some g-20 action, torono!
Good morning. Everybody upbeat that Obama is in Canada giving world leaders economic lectures?
related
Huge oil-skimming ship makes Virginia stop en route to Gulf of Mexico
With no assurances it will be allowed to join the Gulf of Mexico oil spill cleanup, a Taiwanese-owned ship billed as the world’s largest skimming vessel was preparing to sail Friday evening to the scene of the Deepwater Horizon disaster.
The ship — the length of 3 1/2 football fields and 10 stories high — is designed to collect up to 500,000 barrels of oily water a day through 12 vents on either side of its bow. It docked in Norfolk en route to the Gulf from Portugal, where it was retrofitted to skim the seas. The ship and its crew of 32 were to leave Virginia waters Friday evening.
The ship will need a Jones Act waiver, EPA approval, and review by a “number of government agencies” before it could begin work. It will take 3 days for the ship to travel to the Gulf and they hope to have approvals by then
yeah…dream on bitches
RIX wrote:
one day this nightmare is going to end.
if i were merckle i’d tell him to shove it.
coldwarrior wrote:
here’s the kicker: i’ve been watching the loons on Democracy Now (for one) bitching about the security fence (they compare it to Gaza as well as So. African appartied) so what do they do? carry out a “protest” that PROVES the need for a security fence. go figure
Obama is doing so much damage. Now he & the Dems are talking Middle Class tax increases. A total recovery killer.
@ rain of lead:
idiot politician alert:
County Supervisor Who Supports Boycott Doesn’t Know Arizona Borders Mexico
like, totally.
@ rain of lead:
“The ship will need a Jones Act waiver, EPA approval, and review by a “number of government agencies” before it could begin work.”
. . . it might rain cheeseburgers before that happens
RIX wrote:
I’m upbeat that he’s not here pissin in our petunias. We get a weekend off.
@ RIX:
the pendulum swings, relentlessly.
will the right have to guts to pull all of this back when they get power?
coldwarrior wrote:
What would that sound like auf deutsch?
RIX wrote:
They are bored out of their minds with that idiot. They know abt. big spending. They have tried it for years and look where it got them. This really shows you the level of his ignorance and arrogance.
huckfunn wrote:
idioms dont translate real well…besides, it would probably be one very long word like DONAUDAMPFSCHIFFAHRTSELEKTRIZITAETENHAUPTBETRIEBSWERKBAUUNTERBEAMTENGESELLSCHAFT
spinmore wrote:
no, cheesburgers are bad for you, it would have to rain tofu
I do like it when he is out of the country. The European leaders no
longer take this guy seriously.
I don’t remember a U.S president ever being this much of a bad joke
& that includes Carter.
@ rain of lead:
That godless cocksucker in the White House probably won’t approve of them taking part in the cleanup. It might harsh the mellow of the Unions, you see.
THe Republicans do have a way of missing opportunities.
The difference now is that the Tea Parties are driving a lot
of the sgenda, & the Republicans have to pay attention.
@ Iron Fist:
mornin IF
coldwarrior wrote:
I love the Germans and their gutteral language. My last name is a German derivision of a French Huguenot name. I’ve actually been to the German town named after me. No, it’s not hukenfunnenglaub.
@ rain of lead:
. . . that reminds me of a college paper i wrote on ‘animal rights’
titled “Be Kind To Animals -don’t overcook them”
i remember ending it with something along the lines of -- so if you come to my house for a picnic BYOT (bring your own tofu)
Why in the world would they take economic advice from a Community Organizer (Outside Agitator)?
The extent of Obamas economic activity is redistributing wealth, not creating it.
rain of lead wrote:
WTF is it with the press and football fields, anyway? Can’t they spell “feet”???
Iron Fist wrote:
Which really shows you how much these jerks care abt. the environment. zero’s refusal to act and the failure of the eco-terrorists to be pro-active abt. cleaning up the mess is just an other example of what deceitful manipulative scum they are. There is no excuse to not accept the help of these clean up ships.
The left will sacrifice the environment in a heartbeat to advance their fcked up commie ideology.
later guys
my girl has been away at camp for the last 3 weeks and now it is time to go pick her up.
I know she has had fun but I will be glad to have her home.
@ RIX:
. . . a guy who has had undisclosed monies given to him from undisclosed actors (resko et al) from undisclosed sources (tied to terrorists)
yo LameStream -- Do your Fn job!
RIX wrote:
The Euros and the Torontos undoubtedly see right thru Obowmao. Stein has a great piece this morning about Learning the Rules of an Unengaged President
@ rain of lead:
Morning
@ snork:
i thank them -- they know how dull we all are./ maybe we can somewhat grasp such abstractions (with thier help) if they frame it in a way we can ‘kind of’ understand
@ snork:
350 years is about the effective range of an AK 47. It is quite a ways.
coldwarrior wrote:
I keep telling myself that.
rain of lead wrote:
. . . 2 her, 3 weeks = 3 months most likely (are u making her favorite dinner?)
Iron Fist wrote:
. . . is that light years? just sayin
Iron Fist wrote:
Think of what it will be in 500 years.
The MSM won’t, Obama is their guy.
RIX wrote:
He’s like an obnoxious spoiled 3rd grader who makes a nasty scene in an adult setting and no one quite knows how to handle it. The mfm keep patting him on the head, encouraging his incorrigible behavior and other adults are too polite to take the gloves off abt. shut down his unacceptable b.s.
zero is out of control.
Speranza wrote:
I tell myself that too. Believing it is the hard part.
Hey, Speranza.
I tried putting this in the links, and it disappeared. Caroline Glick nails the problem of the Afghan War. Are we going to turn it around and fight to win, or are w going to continue to fight to lose? And there is this:
It isn’t just the Taliban and Palestinians. During the Iran-Iraq war the Iranians would use children to clear minefields by simply marching the kiddies across the field. This is the enemy that we are fighting.
@ Iron Fist:
The Iranians also conscripted thousands of young boys who would charge in waves across the battlefield into the bullets of Iraqi soldiers. These boys were unarmed and aged 8 to 12. They were used as cannon fodder. Sacrificed for allah.
Iron Fist wrote:
Don’t tell Chuck. He says that they guys handing out Christian literature are just as bad.
snork wrote:
. . . if not worse/
He does act like a spoiled, petulant child.
It has been a life of entitlement & he can’t handle criticism,
so he demonizes his critics.
Every nutty move that he makes the MSM calls ‘Brilliant.”
spinmore wrote:
@ snork:
. . . good save
In other news, yesterday a news commentator made an observation that Muslims seem to be prone to angry protest and death-threats, which led to angry protests and death-threats across the Muslim world.
Good morning!
spinmore wrote:
How Orwellian a name…
“It is the consensus of the scholars of this Ummah that if part of the religion is Allah’s and other part is not, fighting must go on until the entire religion is Allah’s.”--Sheikh ibn Taymiyya
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