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Breaking News: Supreme Court rules 5-4 in favor of Gun Rights

by Rodan ( 173 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Democratic Party, Liberal Fascism, Progressives, Tranzis, Weapons at June 28th, 2010 - 11:00 am

Ina  massive blow to the Totalitarian Progressive agenda, the Supreme Court ruled 5-4 against Chicago’s  Gun ban. The Left has tried for a generation to restrict gun ownership as a means to enable only criminals and the government to be armed. This creates a situation where the citizens are helpless and need government protection. Progressives love this since it helps further their Neo-Feudal agenda. Now American citizens have a right to defends themselves just like our founders intended.

In its second major ruling on gun rights in three years, the Supreme Court Monday extended the federally protected right to keep and bear arms to all 50 states. The decision will be hailed by gun rights advocates and comes over the opposition of gun control groups, the city of Chicago and four justices.

Justice Samuel Alito wrote for the five justice majority saying “the right to keep and bear arms must be regarded as a substantive guarantee, not a prohibition that could be ignored so long as the States legislated in an evenhanded manner.”

The ruling builds upon the Court’s 2008 decision in D.C. v. Heller that invalidated the handgun ban in the nation’s capital. More importantly, that decision held that the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms was a right the Founders specifically delegated to individuals. The justices affirmed that decision and extended its reach to the 50 states. Today’s ruling also invalidates Chicago’s handgun ban.

Read the rest: High Court’s Big Ruling For Gun Rights

The Tranzi Totalitarian Progressive agenda has suffered another major blow.

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173 Responses to “Breaking News: Supreme Court rules 5-4 in favor of Gun Rights”
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  1. 1 | June 28, 2010 11:02 am

    A very prevalent headline regarding the decision is “Supreme Court expands gun rights”.

    Sorry AP and alReuters, the rights are being RESTORED.


  2. 2 | June 28, 2010 11:05 am

    This is a blow to the Progressive agenda! I love this!


  3. The Osprey
    3 | June 28, 2010 11:06 am

    So will this ruling make Chicago’s handgun ban and Commiefornia’s “Assault Weapons” ban un-constitutional?


  4. spinmore
    4 | June 28, 2010 11:07 am

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    “expanded” rather then affirmed (always framing the debate) or should i say skewing. Great point FOGJ

    the 5-4 thing is less then encouraging


  5. Doppelganger
    5 | June 28, 2010 11:08 am

    My headline: 4 commie pinko justices vote against the framers and the US constitution


  6. The Osprey
    6 | June 28, 2010 11:11 am

    Ok…I need to read more closely…Chicago’s law is out… curious to know the impact it will have on California.


  7. spinmore
    7 | June 28, 2010 11:12 am

    . . . this is a God Bless America momment for us “Klingers”

    (even the Klingers from Toledo, OH)


  8. 8 | June 28, 2010 11:13 am

    The Osprey wrote:

    So will this ruling make Chicago’s handgun ban and Commiefornia’s “Assault Weapons” ban un-constitutional?

    From the article as linked:

    Today’s ruling also invalidates Chicago’s handgun ban.

    spinmore wrote:

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    “expanded” rather then affirmed (always framing the debate) or should i say skewing. Great point FOGJ
    the 5-4 thing is less then encouraging

    Even Fox News is skewing the debate with their “The justices affirmed that decision and extended its reach to the 50 states [emphasis added].” The very purpose of the Constitution was to restrict and circumscribe the Federal government’s reach into the affairs of the individual and the states, not stifle the states or the citizens.


  9. spinmore
    9 | June 28, 2010 11:13 am

    Doppelganger wrote:

    My headline: 4 commie pinko justices vote against the framers and the US constitution

    ain’t dat da troof


  10. 10 | June 28, 2010 11:16 am

    The Osprey wrote:

    Ok…I need to read more closely…Chicago’s law is out… curious to know the impact it will have on California.

    As with the Heller decision on the DC gun ban that made Chicago appeal the decision to maintain its ban, California and other gun-grabbing states will appeal this decision to keep their citizens safe serfs enslaved.


  11. The Osprey
    11 | June 28, 2010 11:17 am

    spinmore wrote:

    . . . this is a God Bless America momment for us “Klingers”

    (even the Klingers from Toledo, OH)

    Don’t mess with a guy in a big floppy straw hat and a sun dress when he’s toting an M1 Garand.


  12. RIX
    12 | June 28, 2010 11:17 am

    Chicago intends to make gun owners jump through hoops & loops in order to own a gun. It will be interesting to see what they actually come out with.
    Richie Daley vowed that the City will take remedial measures.


  13. spinmore
    13 | June 28, 2010 11:18 am

    @ The Osprey:
    That is a Classic (hadn’t seen that) LOL


  14. 14 | June 28, 2010 11:18 am

    @ The Osprey:

    Californians will undoubtably have to sue the State of California to have the State forced to recognize their rights, but the State of California is not the one standing in the “schoolhouse door” on a fundamental civil rights question. The Republicans should be able to rip them up with the anti-Civil Rights po0sition of the Democrat Party.

    What I wonder is if the Democrats are going to fight this. The Courts are clearly more favorable to us on this issue (the 9th Circuit already had a ruling saying the Second Amendment applies to the States) kind of like the Courts all broke against Seggregation when that unconstitutional bit of oppression was thrown out. Gun Control is definately unpopular, the Courts are ruling against it, but Donks have been fighting for it since FDR was first elected. As Rodan says, this is a big blow to the Tranzi-Prog agenda. I can’t wait to watch Beck tonight. That should be great.


  15. 15 | June 28, 2010 11:19 am

    RIX wrote:

    Chicago intends to make gun owners jump through hoops & loops in order to own a gun. It will be interesting to see what they actually come out with.
    Richie Daley vowed that the City will take remedial measures.

    All it will do is make the criminals happy and raise the murder rate.


  16. 16 | June 28, 2010 11:24 am

    spinmore wrote:

    the 5-4 thing is less then encouraging

    Just shows how critical to our rights even a moderate RINO McLame would have been. Barry won’t be hailing this as a correct decision.


  17. spinmore
    17 | June 28, 2010 11:25 am

    related story:

    my boy is learning his basic riflemanship at training this week.

    i’ve heard from the Mrs. that he has named his M16 “cupcake”

    (i don’t know)


  18. RIX
    18 | June 28, 2010 11:25 am

    FurryOldGuyJeans
    15 | June 28, 2010 11:19
    All it will do is make the criminals happy and raise the murder rate.

    The Daley arguement against gun ownership is counter-intuitive.
    If people waited for the Supreme Court to throw out the gun ban, by definition they are law abiding.
    Criminals aren’t going to scream Yee Haw! & run out to get a gun.
    They’re criminals, their job description is breaking laws, so they are already armed.


  19. Mike C.
    19 | June 28, 2010 11:28 am

    The Osprey wrote:

    Ok…I need to read more closely…Chicago’s law is out… curious to know the impact it will have on California.

    I can’t see any impact on CA’s state gun laws at all.


  20. chickadee
    20 | June 28, 2010 11:30 am

    spinmore wrote:

    related story:

    my boy is learning his basic riflemanship at training this week.

    i’ve heard from the Mrs. that he has named his M16 “cupcake”

    (i don’t know)

    That’s too cute. Kids are so clever. I think it works because of the irony.
    “cupcake”
    lol


  21. 21 | June 28, 2010 11:31 am

    @ Mike C.:

    Oh, it is definately standing to sue. California isn’t going to do anything until a Judge tells them they have to, though.


  22. 22 | June 28, 2010 11:32 am

    @ spinmore:

    “expanded” rather then affirmed (always framing the debate) or should i say skewing. Great point FOGJ

    That’s what the Left is expert at. They change the meaning of the language.


  23. 23 | June 28, 2010 11:33 am

    @ RIX:

    They want the criminals to have guns so the unarmed citizens run for governmnet protection. That’s Feudalism.


  24. spinmore
    24 | June 28, 2010 11:33 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Mike C.:
    Oh, it is definately standing to sue. California isn’t going to do anything until a Judge tells them they have to, though.

    . . . and even then, good luck.


  25. 25 | June 28, 2010 11:34 am

    @ RIX:

    Richie Daley vowed that the City will take remedial measures.

    They will be sued again!


  26. 26 | June 28, 2010 11:36 am

    RIX wrote:

    FurryOldGuyJeans
    15 | June 28, 2010 11:19
    All it will do is make the criminals happy and raise the murder rate.
    The Daley arguement against gun ownership is counter-intuitive.
    If people waited for the Supreme Court to throw out the gun ban, by definition they are law abiding.
    Criminals aren’t going to scream Yee Haw! & run out to get a gun.
    They’re criminals, their job description is breaking laws, so they are already armed.

    Yet the criminals will be happy that their victims by and large will be unarmed and therefore make an easier target.


  27. chickadee
    27 | June 28, 2010 11:37 am

    RIX wrote:

    FurryOldGuyJeans
    15 | June 28, 2010 11:19
    All it will do is make the criminals happy and raise the murder rate.

    The Daley arguement against gun ownership is counter-intuitive.
    If people waited for the Supreme Court to throw out the gun ban, by definition they are law abiding.
    Criminals aren’t going to scream Yee Haw! & run out to get a gun.
    They’re criminals, their job description is breaking laws, so they are already armed.

    Yes, criminals don’t care abt. the law. Gun bans don’t stop them for a second from arming themselves and setting out to rob and murder. Criminals love gun bans because their victims can not fight back.

    Gun bans get law abiding people killed.


  28. RIX
    28 | June 28, 2010 11:37 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:
    They want the criminals to have guns so the unarmed citizens run for governmnet protection. That’s Feudalism.

    It has to be something like that. Daley & his people can’t believe that criminals care about a gun ban.
    About a month ago an 80 something Korean War Vet shot & killed a guy who broke into his home in Chicago.
    He did it with an unregistered firearm & the City took no action.


  29. The Osprey
    29 | June 28, 2010 11:38 am

    spinmore wrote:

    @ The Osprey:
    That is a Classic (hadn’t seen that) LOL

    I made it on “Obamicon Me” along with these:

    MSM’s most famous “Teabagee”

    Hope, Israeli Style

    Same Socialist Taste, Less Filling

    Kos Lite™

    San Fran Nan’s a rapper

    LOLPinochet


  30. 30 | June 28, 2010 11:39 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:

    Richie Daley vowed that the City will take remedial measures.

    They will be sued again!

    Doing the same thing and expecting different results is a sure sign of stupidity and a symptom of Progressivism.


  31. The Osprey
    31 | June 28, 2010 11:40 am

    Why reply to spinmore awaiting moderation? Does a certain number of links in a comment trigger it to keep out spammers?


  32. RIX
    32 | June 28, 2010 11:40 am

    FurryOldGuyJeans
    26 | June 28, 2010 11:36

    Yet the criminals will be happy that their victims by and large will be unarmed and therefore make an easier target.

    Chicago has (had) the most strict gun ban in the nation , yet leads in gun violence.


  33. 33 | June 28, 2010 11:40 am

    Locked and Loaded and Praise the Lord!


  34. 34 | June 28, 2010 11:40 am

    @ spinmore:

    Yeah, the Obama Administration’s decision to ignore the Courts in the moritorium on drilling is troubling. What use are the Courts if the Executive and Legislative branches are free to ignore them? This is but one battle. It is surely not the war. But Gettysburg was but one battle of the Civil War, with two more years of fighting to come, yet the South lost it all on the slope up to Cemetary Ridge. One can hope that so it goes with gun control. It is going to be interesting to see if the Democrats choose to go against the consensus of the Country and the Courts on this issue at this time.


  35. RIX
    35 | June 28, 2010 11:42 am

    chickadee
    27 | June 28, 2010 11:37
    Gun bans get law abiding people killed.

    True


  36. Nevergiveup
    36 | June 28, 2010 11:42 am

    Livni: Netanyahu, Barak ruining Israel
    Opposition leader issues unusually scathing attack against government leaders; Israel is in trouble not because whole world is against it, but rather, because of problematic policy represented by government, she says

    Hey listen Tzipi, I am no big fan of Bibi, but if you were in charge, you’d be doing substantially the same as he. And the reason a lot of people do not like you is because you will say just about anything, true or not, just to get ahead. Get some principals and grow a backbone!


  37. 37 | June 28, 2010 11:42 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ spinmore:
    Yeah, the Obama Administration’s decision to ignore the Courts in the moritorium on drilling is troubling. What use are the Courts if the Executive and Legislative branches are free to ignore them? This is but one battle. It is surely not the war. But Gettysburg was but one battle of the Civil War, with two more years of fighting to come, yet the South lost it all on the slope up to Cemetary Ridge. One can hope that so it goes with gun control. It is going to be interesting to see if the Democrats choose to go against the consensus of the Country and the Courts on this issue at this time.

    For Progressives what is legal is what they say it is, not what the laws are.


  38. RIX
    38 | June 28, 2010 11:44 am

    Rodan
    25 | June 28, 2010 11:34
    They will be sued again!

    If Chicago actually tries to get around the Court, they will be sued.


  39. vapig
    39 | June 28, 2010 11:45 am

    RIX wrote:

    FurryOldGuyJeans
    26 | June 28, 2010 11:36
    Yet the criminals will be happy that their victims by and large will be unarmed and therefore make an easier target.
    Chicago has (had) the most strict gun ban in the nation , yet leads in gun violence.

    Progs are always hysterical when guns are given to the populace. When VA decided to enacts our open carry policy (people caqn literally walk around Marshall Dillon style) they screamed from the rooftops that they would be blood running in the streets. What it did was decrease violent crime and just about every illegal beat feet!


  40. 40 | June 28, 2010 11:45 am

    @ RIX:

    Daley views himself a Feudal lord.


  41. 41 | June 28, 2010 11:45 am

    A little 2A celebration music; The Gitmos, “Buy a Gun”

    http://69.65.114.219/liberty/buy-a-gun-the-gitmos.mp3


  42. spinmore
    42 | June 28, 2010 11:45 am

    The Osprey wrote:

    Why reply to spinmore awaiting moderation? Does a certain number of links in a comment trigger it to keep out spammers?

    . . . i hope Charles hasn’t gotten a job here./


  43. 43 | June 28, 2010 11:46 am

    Instapundit is reporting that the decision strongly references the racist roots of gun conrtrol, an issue I unsuccessfully tried to get the NRA to tackle in 1994. If you are against free slaves owning guns and support the KKK disarming them, you might be a racist.


  44. 44 | June 28, 2010 11:46 am

    @ Nevergiveup:

    She would be doing worse. She’d be apuppet for Obama.


  45. Macker
    45 | June 28, 2010 11:47 am

    @ Nevergiveup:

    That’s right, she can’t grow any balls, can she? 8)


  46. RIX
    46 | June 28, 2010 11:48 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Daley views himself a Feudal lord.

    I don’t think that he started out that way, but power over the years
    has corrupted him


  47. 47 | June 28, 2010 11:48 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Gun control is racist. They want to have law abiding minorities disarmed and at the mercy of the gangs. That way they will be helpless serfs.


  48. RIX
    48 | June 28, 2010 11:50 am

    vapig
    38 | June 28, 2010 11:45
    running in the streets. What it did was decrease violent crime and just about every illegal beat feet!

    Strict gun control always increases violence, always.


  49. Nevergiveup
    49 | June 28, 2010 11:51 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    She would be doing worse. She’d be apuppet for Obama.

    Nah I don’t think so. Obama is like most Commie Progressives. Give em a inch and they try to take the whole country. Even Livni would get pushed into a corner by Obama. And my point was that Livni wouldn’t be doing all that much different than Bibi. She is just crtitisizing Bibi for her own internal political advantage.


  50. 50 | June 28, 2010 11:51 am

    @ Nevergiveup:
    It is always easier to snipe from the safety of the sidelines. If she were in charge she’d be doing far worse things that would virtually ensure Israel being on the brink of destruction.


  51. 51 | June 28, 2010 11:52 am

    @ RIX:

    Plus since his daddy was mayor, he views Chicago as his patrimony.


  52. 52 | June 28, 2010 11:53 am

    @ RIX:
    He reached the pinnacle of Chicago politics, he was ALWAYS corrupt. He’s just gotten more open about it over the years.


  53. 53 | June 28, 2010 11:53 am

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    That is certainly how they would like it to be. There are two things that we can do about it. The first is sue, sue, sue. There should be cases against every gun control law on the books by the end of next week (well, almost. You get my point). We want an overwhelming amount of case law on our side before this is over. That is following in the path of the Civil Rights movement. Pick the right courts and the right oppressive laws, and sue them. If you can, sue the enforcers/implementers of the law personally for violating your civil rights. I’m not an attorney, so I can’t say which cases should be emphasized, but I know there should be many cases against this ASAP.

    Second, run on the issue politically. Make every Democrat that is running for office give his opinion on this case, make him defend it, and don’t let him weasel on it. Gun control is a loser politically. It has been since 1994. The Democrats are already set to have a bad year. Make it worse for them. Make this a civil rights issue (which it surely is), and make certain that everyone knows that the people for gun control aren’t for “reasonable” laws, they are violating your fundamental civil rights.

    That’s a good place to start.


  54. Mike C.
    54 | June 28, 2010 11:53 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Mike C.:
    Oh, it is definately standing to sue. California isn’t going to do anything until a Judge tells them they have to, though.

    I don’t see that CA bans ownership of most weapon types. Machine guns, yes, but that was already discarded in Heller. .50BMG rifles, yes, but that’s too narrow a point to pursue. There are AR-15 type weapons that are legal in CA, so there goes that one as well.

    Sorry – just don’t see it. But I’ve never been a CA resident, so maybe there’s something lurking there I am not familiar with.


  55. Nevergiveup
    55 | June 28, 2010 11:53 am

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    It is always easier to snipe from the safety of the sidelines. If she were in charge she’d be doing far worse things that would virtually ensure Israel being on the brink of destruction.

    Actually I don’t think she would be doing all that much substantially different.


  56. 56 | June 28, 2010 11:53 am

    @ Nevergiveup:

    I read that Obama wants her as PM.


  57. Doppelganger
    57 | June 28, 2010 11:54 am

    If they really want to save lives, they should ban swimming pools.

    a kid is 100 times more likely to drown in their back yard than to kill themself with the family gun.

    give kids guns. give them gun safety classes. teach them to respect the weapon, and fill in the pool with cement and make it a target range

    :)


  58. 58 | June 28, 2010 11:55 am

    @ Scott Madsen:
    Barry has inadvertently been the biggest advert for private firearms ownership in quite some time.


  59. 59 | June 28, 2010 11:55 am

    I wonder, how are they treating this news over at the Swamp? I can’t look at LGF from work because it sucks so much bandwidth.


  60. RIX
    60 | June 28, 2010 11:55 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Plus since his daddy was mayor, he views Chicago as his patrimony.

    The family business.


  61. Nevergiveup
    61 | June 28, 2010 11:55 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    I read that Obama wants her as PM.

    Yeah he probably does. But then again what Obama knows about Israel could fit inside that pimple on my ass.


  62. Bumr50
    62 | June 28, 2010 11:55 am

    OT –

    Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    This from the country that landed a man on the moon.

    PUT ME IN CHARGE.


  63. RIX
    63 | June 28, 2010 11:56 am

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    @ RIX:
    He reached the pinnacle of Chicago politics, he was ALWAYS corrupt. He’s just gotten more open about it over the years.

    It’s all pretty damn corrupt.


  64. 64 | June 28, 2010 11:57 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Actually I don’t think she would be doing all that much substantially different.

    And I have to disagree, courteously. ;)


  65. vagabond trader
    65 | June 28, 2010 11:57 am

    Next up we’ll be hearing from that other spiritual leader from Chitown, Fr Pfleger.


  66. Doppelganger
    66 | June 28, 2010 11:58 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    I wonder, how are they treating this news over at the Swamp? I can’t look at LGF from work because it sucks so much bandwidth.

    Frothing and foaming over minutia like plastic frogs, nazi flags in Tennessee, and pundits who shared a cab with a man who used to mow the lawn of a reported friend of a white supremacist


  67. Nevergiveup
    67 | June 28, 2010 11:58 am

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Actually I don’t think she would be doing all that much substantially different.

    And I have to disagree, courteously.

    And what do you think she would be doing so much differently?


  68. 68 | June 28, 2010 11:59 am

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Next up we’ll be hearing from that other spiritual leader from Chitown, Fr Pfleger.

    Frag Father Pfleger.


  69. 69 | June 28, 2010 11:59 am

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Yeah he probably does. But then again what Obama knows about Israel could fit inside that pimple on my ass.

    :lol:


  70. 70 | June 28, 2010 12:01 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    They have a multiplicity of restriction on what can be sold and what can be owned in California. I don’t know all of the specifics myself, but it is bad enough that most gunshops on Gunbroker will not sell to California. I’d consider that level of restrictions to be too onerous to be constitutional. And I wouldn’t rule even Machineguns out long term. Heller gave lip service to regulating them, but Roe v. Wade gave more specific clearance to regulating second and third trimester abortions, and yet we hav ehad partial-birth abortion bans thrown out by the Court. We keep coming back wanting more, until we have it all. There is no reason we have to be satisfied with this when many States and Municipalities have unconstitutional laws on the books and enforce them with egriegously harsh sentences.


  71. vapig
    71 | June 28, 2010 12:01 pm

    OT: Economy has recovered. Moron says obama has created more jobs in the last 18 months than during Bush’s entire eight year term!

    People seems a bit peeved at us here in Virginia! This is my rep talking (gag!). Most of the time no one even runs against him! Even when noone votes for him he wins!


  72. vagabond trader
    72 | June 28, 2010 12:01 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    No thanks,I’ll leave that to you.


  73. 73 | June 28, 2010 12:01 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    And what do you think she would be doing so much differently?

    Lift the embargo on Gaza and kiss up to Syria?


  74. 74 | June 28, 2010 12:02 pm

    Okay, I just have to share this personal opinion. There’s been a lot of condemnation about the actions of the police here in Toronto over the weekend. Especially with the riots, public damage and “inaction” of police officers. I will wait a bit before I look at the polices “over reaction” on Sunday.


  75. 75 | June 28, 2010 12:03 pm

    @ vapig:

    They are still pushing that Obama boom lie!

    Unreal!


  76. Nevergiveup
    76 | June 28, 2010 12:04 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    And what do you think she would be doing so much differently?

    Lift the embargo on Gaza and kiss up to Syria?

    She might say nicer things towards Syria, but that would lead nowhere anyway. And I doubt she would substantially change the Gaza Policy. And remember she would have to rule in coalition with Labor and that means Ehud Barack who is no left wing liberal.


  77. vagabond trader
    77 | June 28, 2010 12:05 pm

    @ Rodan:

    “Can’t you say somethin’ nice instead of being such a smart azz…” Channeling VP Biden.


  78. 78 | June 28, 2010 12:05 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    And what do you think she would be doing so much differently?

    #1, she’d be listening to Barry more and considering what he wants Israel to do.


  79. snork
    79 | June 28, 2010 12:07 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    What happened to “Yes, We Can”?


  80. 80 | June 28, 2010 12:07 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ vapig:
    They are still pushing that Obama boom lie!
    Unreal!

    One of the hallmarks of Progressivism is to report perception as it helps to promote their vision of Utopia instead of understanding reality and dealing with things as they are.


  81. Nevergiveup
    81 | June 28, 2010 12:08 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    And what do you think she would be doing so much differently?

    #1, she’d be listening to Barry more and considering what he wants Israel to do.

    She might make a show of listening to Obama more, but ultimately i doubt her actions would be all that much different than Bibi’s. As a matter of fact the problem with this Israeli Government and any coalition Government ( which all present Israeli Governments are and for the forceable future will be ) is that the is NO ACTION. They are essentially paralized by their fucked up coalitions and personalities. And all they do is react.


  82. BuddyG
    82 | June 28, 2010 12:08 pm

    Guns don’t kill people, abortion doctors kill people.


  83. Mike C.
    83 | June 28, 2010 12:09 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Oh, I know CA has a bunch of fairly stupid restrictions, but restrictions are not the same thing as a ban. and a ban is what was under consideration in Heller and McDonald. In Ca, one can own a semi-auto rifle or a semi-auto pistol. Maybe not exactly the one you want, but you can own one. So I don’t see that these two cases apply. The NFA certainly isn’t affected and I don’t see the mid-80s amending law being overturned any time soon. Most US citizens can own full-auto weapons. If they’re rich…


  84. Fritz Katz
    84 | June 28, 2010 12:11 pm

    The Left has tried for a generation to restrict gun ownership as a means to enable only criminals and the government to be armed.

    We have a government of, by, and for the criminals.


  85. 85 | June 28, 2010 12:13 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    Notice Biden got a pass for that? If it was Cheney the media would be all over it.


  86. 86 | June 28, 2010 12:13 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    And again I disagree. She would, in my opinion, do more than make appearances of just listening to Barry. She might be circumscribed by the realities of coalition parliamentary governing, but she would try take a much more conciliatory hand at compromising with the enemies of Israel.


  87. Nevergiveup
    87 | June 28, 2010 12:14 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    And again I disagree. She would, in my opinion, do more than make appearances of just listening to Barry. She might be circumscribed by the realities of coalition parliamentary governing, but she would try take a much more conciliatory hand at compromising with the enemies of Israel.

    OK but like what?


  88. bar
    88 | June 28, 2010 12:17 pm

    @ Mike C.:
    I agree with you, I don’t see this decision effecting California’s gun laws. Only some states IIRC allow full-auto rifles, I don’t think the court is suggesting that all states must now allow them. In other words, states are free to restrict stuff, but not outright ban all of them.


  89. Bumr50
    89 | June 28, 2010 12:18 pm

    Waiting for an “interesting” remark from Eric Holder before the day is through.


  90. 90 | June 28, 2010 12:21 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    Poll taxes weren’t the same thing as a ban on voting, either. Restrictions on fundamental rights are, generally, unconstitutional. I’ll be interested to see how much political capital the Democrat Party is willing top put into defending gun control. Are they going to pull out all the stops? Make it a major issue? Or are they going to take their whipping, and go sit down and see what happens next. California will be an interesting case in point, because they have a Republican governor now, and likely will have a Republican governor after the election. Will that Republican governor be willing to go to the mat defending the Democrats’ pet laws? I think if you can find someone willing to sue over “One Nation Under God”, you can find someone willing to sue because they aren’t allowed to by a 30 round magazine for their M-4. What will the courts do? The 9th Circuit has already ruled that the Second Amendment applies to California in one case. I think this decision will open the floodgates of litigation. I’m no sure how much political capital the Democrats are going to be willing to spend to defend unpopular laws. They may recind these laws just to get out of the lawsuits. Wouldn’t that be nice?


  91. 91 | June 28, 2010 12:21 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    I have repeatedly stated I disagree with your stated opinion, let’s just leave it at that.

    Hard to give the specifics you seem to be demanding because, guess what, she isn’t in charge. Kinda like expecting to know what Barry would do as POTUS when he was sniping at Bush as a senator.


  92. bar
    92 | June 28, 2010 12:25 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    Nitpicking your way to Socialism?


  93. randian
    93 | June 28, 2010 12:25 pm

    I don’t think this ruling is all you’ve made it out to be. Since the Supreme Court refused to make gun ownership a Privilege or Immunity (see 14th Am), handgun bans are still ok so long as due process is given. That’s the whole point of the ruling: if gun ownership is a Privilege or Immunity, then it is beyond the government’s authority to regulate. By denying that status, the Supreme Court in the long run changes nothing, because now we’re only arguing about how bans are enacted and not the government’s right to enact them.


  94. dm60462
    94 | June 28, 2010 12:26 pm

    Greetings from the South Side of Chicago!
    I’d like to recommend the following to my neighbors. 1) Chuck’s in Riverdale. He’s put up with the Reverends’ (Jackson and Pfleger) demonstrations at his store for years. 2) Freddie Bear in Tinley Park. No car? No problem! Take the Rock Island to Tinley Park (Oak Park Ave) stop and walk 1 block. 3) Rink’s in Lemont. Worth the drive. Small shop with range and great prices – and no Cook County sales tax! 4) Skip the “Mega” location(s) You’ll get better service and better prices elsewhere.


  95. spinmore
    95 | June 28, 2010 12:26 pm

    . . . ‘in response to the ruling, the O administration has agreed to set aside monies to provide handguns and ammumition to undocumented workers whom they feel may be at a disadvantage as compared to the population at large’

    /


  96. Nevergiveup
    96 | June 28, 2010 12:27 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    I have repeatedly stated I disagree with your stated opinion, let’s just leave it at that.

    Hard to give the specifics you seem to be demanding because, guess what, she isn’t in charge. Kinda like expecting to know what Barry would do as POTUS when he was sniping at Bush as a senator.

    Yeah I understand, but unlike Obama who is so far off the scale on the left, Israeli Politics usually does it’s kabooki dance in the middle range. And It is easy to say Livni would do all these things differently, but Israeli History, Kadima History, and Livni’s own limited History do not point in that direction. So I think it’s a fair question to ask what exactly she would do so differently?


  97. 97 | June 28, 2010 12:28 pm

    bar wrote:

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    Nitpicking your way to Socialism?

    Taking the academic debating approach doesn’t work in the real world or a court of law. Many a criminal have rightly been convicted on circumstantial evidence.


  98. 98 | June 28, 2010 12:28 pm

    @ dm60462:

    Welcome aboard!


  99. spinmore
    99 | June 28, 2010 12:32 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ dm60462:
    Welcome aboard!

    . . . what he said


  100. Macker
    100 | June 28, 2010 12:33 pm

    @ snork:

    I think by now, Crappy Nappy will be muttering Si, se puéde!


  101. Macker
    101 | June 28, 2010 12:34 pm

    @ dm60462:

    Welcome! What part of the South Side? I lived near 36th St. & Damen twenty-some-odd years ago.


  102. 102 | June 28, 2010 12:35 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Yeah I understand, but unlike Obama who is so far off the scale on the left, Israeli Politics usually does it’s kabooki dance in the middle range. And It is easy to say Livni would do all these things differently, but Israeli History, Kadima History, and Livni’s own limited History do not point in that direction. So I think it’s a fair question to ask what exactly she would do so differently?

    No, you don’t understand what I said. My “read” on her character is different than yours, I see where she could do worse in general terms.

    And this is all of the kabuki dance with you I am going to do with you on this subject. We disagree. End of story.


  103. vapig
    103 | June 28, 2010 12:36 pm

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    Okay, I just have to share this personal opinion. There’s been a lot of condemnation about the actions of the police here in Toronto over the weekend. Especially with the riots, public damage and “inaction” of police officers. I will wait a bit before I look at the polices “over reaction” on Sunday.

    Police cruiser 3251 spent its final moments in the company of two very different men: the officer who drove it and the mischief-maker accused of torching it.

    Mischief-maker???? Shoot! I’d have used tear-gas, rubber bullets and firehoses. I’m sick of those anarchists!


  104. spinmore
    104 | June 28, 2010 12:36 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ dm60462:
    Welcome! What part of the South Side? I lived near 36th St. & Damen twenty-some-odd years ago.

    . . . i think this calls for a link to ‘bad bad leroy brown’


  105. Doppelganger
    105 | June 28, 2010 12:39 pm

    vapig wrote:

    PaladinPhil wrote:
    Okay, I just have to share this personal opinion. There’s been a lot of condemnation about the actions of the police here in Toronto over the weekend. Especially with the riots, public damage and “inaction” of police officers. I will wait a bit before I look at the polices “over reaction” on Sunday.
    Police cruiser 3251 spent its final moments in the company of two very different men: the officer who drove it and the mischief-maker accused of torching it.
    Mischief-maker???? Shoot! I’d have used tear-gas, rubber bullets and firehoses. I’m sick of those anarchists!

    they should start using real bullets. put an end to this bullshit once and for all


  106. 106 | June 28, 2010 12:40 pm

    randian wrote:

    I don’t think this ruling is all you’ve made it out to be. Since the Supreme Court refused to make gun ownership a Privilege or Immunity (see 14th Am), handgun bans are still ok so long as due process is given. That’s the whole point of the ruling: if gun ownership is a Privilege or Immunity, then it is beyond the government’s authority to regulate. By denying that status, the Supreme Court in the long run changes nothing, because now we’re only arguing about how bans are enacted and not the government’s right to enact them.

    You need to read the opinion:

    Justice Samuel Alito wrote for the five justice majority saying “the right to keep and bear arms must be regarded as a substantive guarantee, not a prohibition that could be ignored so long as the States legislated in an evenhanded manner.”

    I’d have prefered a P&I ruling, buit that doesn’t mean the states can do just whatever they want to do on gun control. All the other parts of the Bill of Rights that have been incorporated into the 14th Amendment have been incorporated through the Due Process clause. That certainly doesn’t mean the States can ban churches, or set up their own official religion (no matter how much California wants to make atheism the official State Religion, she can’t), restrict the press, or do any of the other things we have come to understand the Bill of Rights to prevent. What would make this different? The Democrats can fight this, that is true, but it will be an uphill battle bleeding political capital every step of the way, with honestly little chance of success until one of the five justices in this decision is replaced. Personally, I don’t think that is a fight the Democrats want to have right now, but we will see.


  107. Bumr50
    107 | June 28, 2010 12:41 pm

    I had to turn off FOX.

    Somebody give me a heads up when Kagan gets in.


  108. spinmore
    108 | June 28, 2010 12:42 pm

    “I’m sick of those anarchists!” – vapig

    If ‘anarchists’ truly were ‘anarchists’ i’m sure they wouldn’t mind true lawlessness (would they) like a cop or anyone else for that matter showing them what it really means to embrace the term.

    ‘oh, you mean it’s more than just a cool tee shirt and a holloween costume?’


  109. spinmore
    109 | June 28, 2010 12:43 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    I had to turn off FOX.
    Somebody give me a heads up when Kagan gets in.

    . . . need a Tums?


  110. 110 | June 28, 2010 12:43 pm

    vapig wrote:

    Mischief-maker???? Shoot! I’d have used tear-gas, rubber bullets and firehoses. I’m sick of those anarchists!

    I don’t know about the water cannon, but the other items were used at several times on Saturday afternoon. And yeah, you got to love how the MFMSM downplays the anarchists exploits. Heard a bit of that from the raw feed of CBC on Saturday evening.


  111. 111 | June 28, 2010 12:43 pm

    @ vapig:
    The same bullshit “revolution and anarchy is good” attitude ruled the day with the WTO riots in Seattle. They even made a movie to show how selfless and noble the trust-fund baby agitators were.

    *SPIT*


  112. Nevergiveup
    112 | June 28, 2010 12:44 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    I had to turn off FOX.

    Somebody give me a heads up when Kagan gets in.

    Unfortunetaly unless something new comes out I think she will get confirmed mostly along party lines with a couple of turncoat Rs going along. I hope not, but that seems to be how the winds are blowing.


  113. 113 | June 28, 2010 12:47 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    The Republicans have less balls than a steer, so you are probably right. That will depress Republican votes in the fall, too. Why turn out and vote for candidates that won’t stand up for your side when they are elected?


  114. 114 | June 28, 2010 12:50 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Kagan is Barry’s new shiny object to distract from the main event of his Socialist takeover.

    The Dems have had majority control of both houses since the 2006 midterms, and yet they still act as if they are in a slim minority when it comes to voting on things.


  115. vapig
    115 | June 28, 2010 12:51 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    @ vapig:
    The same bullshit “revolution and anarchy is good” attitude ruled the day with the WTO riots in Seattle. They even made a movie to show how selfless and noble the trust-fund baby agitators were.
    *SPIT*

    They pull this crap all over the world! Every time there’s a G8 or WTO event they go apeshit destroying everything in sight. I’m sick to death of it! If a few of them got their heads cracked open maybe they’d think twice about it!


  116. Nevergiveup
    116 | June 28, 2010 12:52 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    The Dems have had majority control of both houses since the 2006 midterms, and yet they still act as if they are in a slim minority when it comes to voting on things.

    Not sure what ya mean? They are trying to ram as much as they can get thru with their huge majorities that they have now.


  117. 117 | June 28, 2010 12:53 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    The Republicans have less balls than a steer, so you are probably right. That will depress Republican votes in the fall, too. Why turn out and vote for candidates that won’t stand up for your side when they are elected?

    Or it could encourage conservative-minded voters to turn out in greater numbers. 2010 is shaping up to potentially be both parties’ Waterloo.

    And they (Ds and Rs) are not the Duke of Wellington.


  118. Nevergiveup
    118 | June 28, 2010 12:53 pm

    vapig wrote:

    They pull this crap all over the world! Every time there’s a G8 or WTO event they go apeshit destroying everything in sight. I’m sick to death of it! If a few of them got their heads cracked open maybe they’d think twice about it!

    Yeah but it seems that every year their ranks get smaller and smaller. At least that is how it appears.


  119. 119 | June 28, 2010 12:55 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    It is going to be interesting (and instructive) to see how Hayworth does. He’s been weakened by the infomercial thing. How much, I can’t say. McCain is still McCain, so Hayworth has that going for him. This is certainly going to be ian interesting election.


  120. Nevergiveup
    120 | June 28, 2010 12:56 pm

    International Space Station sex ban
    Commanders do not allow sexual intercourse on the International Space Station, it has been disclosed.

    Yeah it’s banned on Navy War Ships also and we all know how well that works?


  121. vapig
    121 | June 28, 2010 12:57 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Kagan is Barry’s new shiny object to distract from the main event of his Socialist takeover.
    The Dems have had majority control of both houses since the 2006 midterms, and yet they still act as if they are in a slim minority when it comes to voting on things.

    True – it’s bizzarre! When they can’t pass their own crap due to the stench they get in front of a camera and blame the GOP – who have NO POWER!!!


  122. 122 | June 28, 2010 12:58 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:
    The Dems have had majority control of both houses since the 2006 midterms, and yet they still act as if they are in a slim minority when it comes to voting on things.

    Not sure what ya mean? They are trying to ram as much as they can get thru with their huge majorities that they have now.

    BarryCare wasn’t a cake walk, and each new piece of legislation requires months of debate to bring to the floor for a rancorous vote. Only backroom deals and bribes is what gets things actually passed.


  123. buzzsawmonkey
    123 | June 28, 2010 12:59 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    Kagan is Barry’s new shiny object to distract from the main event of his Socialist takeover.

    And the oil flows, and flows, and flows
    And who is in charge there, nobody knows…


  124. 124 | June 28, 2010 1:00 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    It is going to be interesting (and instructive) to see how Hayworth does. He’s been weakened by the infomercial thing. How much, I can’t say. McCain is still McCain, so Hayworth has that going for him. This is certainly going to be ian interesting election.

    The 2010 midterms certainly won’t be boring like most are.


  125. Nevergiveup
    125 | June 28, 2010 1:01 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:
    The Dems have had majority control of both houses since the 2006 midterms, and yet they still act as if they are in a slim minority when it comes to voting on things.

    Not sure what ya mean? They are trying to ram as much as they can get thru with their huge majorities that they have now.

    BarryCare wasn’t a cake walk, and each new piece of legislation requires months of debate to bring to the floor for a rancorous vote. Only backroom deals and bribes is what gets things actually passed.

    OK I got ya. Well that’s because they have no interest in any cooportion with the Republicans. It is unprecendented how they are shutting the R’s out. So they have to just try and buy one or two fake Republicans to get it passed. But that is about to end. Not soon enough. They can and will still try to ruin this country until the New Congress gets seated.


  126. vapig
    126 | June 28, 2010 1:01 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    International Space Station sex ban
    Commanders do not allow sexual intercourse on the International Space Station, it has been disclosed.
    Yeah it’s banned on Navy War Ships also and we all know how well that works?

    Anybody every come back knocked up from one of those?


  127. 127 | June 28, 2010 1:02 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:
    Kagan is Barry’s new shiny object to distract from the main event of his Socialist takeover.
    And the oil flows, and flows, and flows
    And who is in charge there, nobody knows…

    I doubt even the Shadow does.


  128. 128 | June 28, 2010 1:02 pm

    @ vapig:

    They know that public opinion is against them on everything that they want to do. Strongly against them. ObamaCare barelyt made it over the line, and it did it bleeding incumbants like they were water. Ask Stupid Stupak how much passing ObamaCare cost. Amnesty would be worse. So is cap-and-tax. That is why they really can’t be loving this gun control case coming down today. They don’t have the political capital for a long, drawn out fight on the issue. Obama right now is probably praying for a Domestic Terrorist event that doesn’t involve Mohammedans. I just hope he doesn’t decide his way out of this hole is to engineer one.


  129. Nevergiveup
    129 | June 28, 2010 1:02 pm

    vapig wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    International Space Station sex ban
    Commanders do not allow sexual intercourse on the International Space Station, it has been disclosed.
    Yeah it’s banned on Navy War Ships also and we all know how well that works?

    Anybody every come back knocked up from one of those?

    Yes, it is not all that unusual.


  130. gibsonz
    130 | June 28, 2010 1:03 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    McCain is still McCain, so Hayworth has that going for him. This is certainly going to be ian interesting election.

    Power and money…a tough uphill fight to overcome,but you are correct…McCain is his own worst enemy.


  131. Bumr50
    131 | June 28, 2010 1:03 pm

    @ vapig:

    Jeff Bridges?


  132. 132 | June 28, 2010 1:07 pm

    vapig wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    International Space Station sex ban
    Commanders do not allow sexual intercourse on the International Space Station, it has been disclosed.
    Yeah it’s banned on Navy War Ships also and we all know how well that works?

    Anybody every come back knocked up from one of those?

    The question is how many come back preggo, not if.

    I got accused of sexual harassment, and nearly NJPed (Non-judicial punishment) by my chain of command, because I refused to sleep with some skank who was sleeping her way to advancement. Sexual politics in the military is more common now than when I was in back in the early 90′s. COs are deathly afraid of harassment charges while they are in command.


  133. vapig
    133 | June 28, 2010 1:12 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    vapig wrote:
    Nevergiveup wrote:
    International Space Station sex ban
    Commanders do not allow sexual intercourse on the International Space Station, it has been disclosed.
    Yeah it’s banned on Navy War Ships also and we all know how well that works?
    Anybody every come back knocked up from one of those?
    Yes, it is not all that unusual.

    We have space babies? heheh…..


  134. Nevergiveup
    134 | June 28, 2010 1:13 pm

    vapig wrote:

    We have space babies? heheh…..

    Not sure about that. I was talking about ship board babies courtesy of the US Navy.


  135. mjazz
    135 | June 28, 2010 1:14 pm

    @ spinmore:
    They would be the first wones to start crying if their cell phones didn’t work, there was no more food to buy and no gas to get anywhere.


  136. mjazz
    136 | June 28, 2010 1:14 pm

    *ones*


  137. Bumr50
    137 | June 28, 2010 1:15 pm

    Progressivism is public high school for all.

    HELP!


  138. vapig
    138 | June 28, 2010 1:15 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    “sleeping her way to advancement”

    That term just cracks me up. They used to use it in the corporate world. The general response was, “if all these women are sleeping their way to the top, then where are they?” They sure were cnspicuously absent in the all-male world back then!

    I’d say, if anything, women who use their bodies for advancement generally find they hit a brick way. No one was respect for those types.


  139. 139 | June 28, 2010 1:16 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Obama right now is probably praying for a Domestic Terrorist event that doesn’t involve Mohammedans. I just hope he doesn’t decide his way out of this hole is to engineer one.

    Even a Mooslim terrorist event could be used to push for more restrictions on civil rights, with a dose of martial law.

    The proposed “Kill Switch” legislation would allow for the complete shut-down of the internet for up to 4 months. Time enough to make a martial law clampdown easier and permanent.


  140. vapig
    140 | June 28, 2010 1:17 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    “The question is how many come back preggo, not if.”

    I take it that club is more exclusive than the mile high club?

    :mrgreen:


  141. vapig
    141 | June 28, 2010 1:18 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    vapig wrote:
    We have space babies? heheh…..
    Not sure about that. I was talking about ship board babies courtesy of the US Navy.

    With the shuttle and space station I just wondered if we had anyone knocked up from one of those trips. I mean, if you can get away with it wouldn’t you try it? Zero gravity sex?


  142. Doppelganger
    142 | June 28, 2010 1:20 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    International Space Station sex ban
    Commanders do not allow sexual intercourse on the International Space Station, it has been disclosed.
    Yeah it’s banned on Navy War Ships also and we all know how well that works?

    how do you get any leverage for thrusting?


  143. 143 | June 28, 2010 1:20 pm

    vapig wrote:

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    “sleeping her way to advancement”

    That term just cracks me up. They used to use it in the corporate world. The general response was, “if all these women are sleeping their way to the top, then where are they?” They sure were cnspicuously absent in the all-male world back then!
    I’d say, if anything, women who use their bodies for advancement generally find they hit a brick way. No one was respect for those types.

    In her particular case it worked long enough to get her in a cushy job until the end of her enlistment obligation.

    Another reason why many women get pregnant onboard Navy ships is to get out of working, being placed on “light duty” and/or sent back to shore to wait out their pregnancy.


  144. Bumr50
    144 | June 28, 2010 1:20 pm

    @ vapig:

    I wonder if the baby would be less dense.


  145. spinmore
    145 | June 28, 2010 1:22 pm

    @ mjazz:
    u know it


  146. snork
    146 | June 28, 2010 1:23 pm

    vapig wrote:

    With the shuttle and space station I just wondered if we had anyone knocked up from one of those trips. I mean, if you can get away with it wouldn’t you try it? Zero gravity sex?

    You’d need some sort of elastomeric cord to keep from bouncing off and away. Not as easy as it sounds, though it would make for an interesting televised experiment.

    Maybe get wrapped up in glad-wrap first, or something like that.


  147. 147 | June 28, 2010 1:24 pm

    Over on Volokh, a reeder reports that there are two cases coming up right now: Heller II (large magazines and “scary looking” rifles) and Palmer (concealed carry). I know there was also a case pending in the 9th Circuit that was on hold pending McDonald. I would assume that the 9th will now decide it, and that it will likewise be favorable to gun owners. There could be others I don’t know about, too. This issue isn’t going away, and shouldn’t. We want as many precedents on the books as we can get while the Court is favorable to us. Then we have to trust to Stare Decis and (hopefully) Republican Presidents to give us good replacements when the time comes.


  148. Nevergiveup
    148 | June 28, 2010 1:25 pm

    So I hear the latest tom cruize movie crashed and burned at the box office and with the critics again. When is he gonna learn that wacked out crazy cultist doesn’t play well with the audience?


  149. snork
    149 | June 28, 2010 1:26 pm

    Send the LGF night crew up with their leather straps and whips duct tape and all that stuff, and see if they can do it. Just tie the tubes first; you wouldn’t want those things reproducing.


  150. lobo91
    150 | June 28, 2010 1:27 pm

    Daley isn’t wasting any time on this:

    As a result of this morning’s expected ruling, the Police Committee of the Chicago City Council began meeting at 10:30 a.m. to consider a replacement ordinance introduced directly to the committee by Mayor Daley. The meeting was soon adjourned until Tuesday, though, with committee chairman Anthony Beale (9th) saying he needed time to review the more than 100-page Supreme Court ruling.

    Chicago gun owners could be required to take a training course, register their firearms, allow police to perform ballistics tests and even purchase liability insurance.

    Daley hasn’t tipped his hand on all of the specifics as he awaited the court ruling. But he has said to protect first-responders, he’s prepared to go above and beyond the replacement model crafted by Washington D.C. after its handgun ban bit the dust.

    Chicago’s proposed changes in response to the Supreme Court would surpass Washington, D.C.’s Washington requires gun owners to get five hours of safety training, register their firearms every three years and face criminal background checks every six years.

    Gun owners there are further required to submit fingerprints and allow police to perform ballistic tests. They must keep revolvers unloaded and either disassembled or secured with trigger locks unless they have reason to fear a home intruder.

    As sweeping as those provisions are, they apparently don’t go far enough for Daley, who hinted strongly at an insurance component to protect police officers and paramedics


  151. snork
    151 | June 28, 2010 1:27 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    So I hear the latest tom cruize movie crashed and burned at the box office and with the critics again. When is he gonna learn that wacked out crazy cultist doesn’t play well with the audience?

    Feathers and Cadillac make better unicorns…


  152. 152 | June 28, 2010 1:30 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    So I hear the latest tom cruize movie crashed and burned at the box office and with the critics again. When is he gonna learn that wacked out crazy cultist doesn’t play well with the audience?

    According to IMDb, Knight and Day is #3 at the box office with plenty of positive critic and user reviews.


  153. 153 | June 28, 2010 1:32 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Daley is willing to go to the mat, but is the Democrat Party? This may be a winner in Chicago, New York, and LA, but if the Democrats would like to elect Representatives and Senators from places other than these cities, they may not want to go full-bore “We’ll fight it everyt inch of the way”. They may. I don’t know. If I were one of the top dog in the Donk Party, I think I’d be giving rational accomodation a hard look.


  154. Mike C.
    154 | June 28, 2010 1:33 pm

    They must keep revolvers unloaded and either disassembled or secured with trigger locks unless they have reason to fear a home intruder.

    That you can safely ignore because it will go down in flames when it hits district court. The Heller decision specifically addressed that issue.


  155. 155 | June 28, 2010 1:35 pm

    @ snork:
    Box Office Mojo puts the weekend take for Knight and Day at approx. $20,500,000. Not a Toy Story 3 or Grown Ups, but still not shabby.


  156. lobo91
    156 | June 28, 2010 1:38 pm

    Here’s a link to the full decision, if anyone has a spare day or two to read it.

    It’s 214 pages.


  157. 157 | June 28, 2010 1:39 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    The same with the collection of “We are the bad guys” war movies. There were a lot of people not living in leftist enclaves who just couldn’t find the spare change to see what awful people we are on the silver screen. As for Cruise, he is bat sh*t crazy 8 ways to Thursday. The Oprah interview made sure he’ll never be viewed the same way again.


  158. lobo91
    158 | June 28, 2010 1:41 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    @ snork:
    Box Office Mojo puts the weekend take for Knight and Day at approx. $20,500,000. Not a Toy Story 3 or Grown Ups, but still not shabby.

    Of course, the only real way to determine whether a movie is successful or not is to know how much it cost to make.

    There have been movies that grossed $100 million that were considered flops, because they actually lost money.

    $20,500,000 didn’t even cover the unicorn’s paycheck…


  159. lobo91
    159 | June 28, 2010 1:45 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    From that same link, look at Sex and the City 2. It’s grossed $93 million.

    Sounds good, until you see that it cost $100 million to make.


  160. 160 | June 28, 2010 1:46 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Here’s a link to the full decision, if anyone has a spare day or two to read it.
    It’s 214 pages.

    214 pages is an easier read than 2,000, especially when a lot of the verbiage is in reference to other legislation previously passed.


  161. Bumr50
    161 | June 28, 2010 1:49 pm

    Wife made me go see Toy Story 3.

    Not all that.


  162. lobo91
    162 | June 28, 2010 1:50 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    That’s true.

    I wouldn’t even bother trying to read something like that health care bill, for just that reason. It wasn’t intended to be read as a coherent document.


  163. 163 | June 28, 2010 1:50 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    From that same link, look at Sex and the City 2. It’s grossed $93 million.
    Sounds good, until you see that it cost $100 million to make.

    That is S&C2′s total gross, after 11 weeks. K&D may very well not have legs and tank the second week, but it have a respectable opening weekend. K&D is so far not the bomb at the BO and with critics as was previously opined.


  164. 164 | June 28, 2010 1:53 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    That is S&C2′s total gross, after 11 5 weeks. K&D may very well not have legs and tank the second week, but it have a respectable opening weekend. K&D is so far not the bomb at the BO and with critics as was previously opined.

    Ooops, my bad, I was wrong. 5 weeks, not 11.

    I blame it on them EVIL! Typo Elves. ;)


  165. lobo91
    165 | June 28, 2010 1:56 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    That is S&C2′s total gross, after 11 weeks. K&D may very well not have legs and tank the second week, but it have a respectable opening weekend. K&D is so far not the bomb at the BO and with critics as was previously opined.

    The reality is that those numbers don’t have much relation to reality, anyway. Hollywood accounting makes Enron’s books look good.

    “It depends on the meaning of profit,” to borrow a phrase.

    My favorite stupid Hollywood accounting trick was what they did with the grosses from Men in Black 2.

    The reason it took so long for it to be made following the hugely successful first one is that when they wrote the contracts for the first movie, they promised all the major players involved chunks of the gross for any potential sequel that totalled more than 100%.

    They had to renegotiate everyone’s contracts before even starting on the sequel.


  166. 166 | June 28, 2010 1:56 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    From that same link, look at Sex and the City 2. It’s grossed $93 million.
    Sounds good, until you see that it cost $100 million to make.

    Did you notice that Box Office Mojo is unable to report the operating budget for K&D? Tells me it is more than likely James Cameron HUGE.


  167. 167 | June 28, 2010 2:00 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Hollywood and their “creative” accounting would make a Byzantine Emperor green with envy for the convoluted shenanigans.


  168. lobo91
    168 | June 28, 2010 2:01 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    Did you notice that Box Office Mojo is unable to report the operating budget for K&D? Tells me it is more than likely James Cameron HUGE.

    I saw that.

    Movies are starting to cost so much these days that it’s scary.

    $200 million for Toy Story 3? It’s a freakin’ cartoon


  169. 169 | June 28, 2010 2:07 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    Did you notice that Box Office Mojo is unable to report the operating budget for K&D? Tells me it is more than likely James Cameron HUGE.
    I saw that.
    Movies are starting to cost so much these days that it’s scary.
    $200 million for Toy Story 3? It’s a freakin’ cartoon…

    As movies become more unreal due to the prevalence of CGI effects and characters, so do the budgets and ticket prices.

    Hollywood has yet to relearn why the studios and movies were so successful during the 30′s.


  170. lobo91
    170 | June 28, 2010 2:25 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    Hollywood has yet to relearn why the studios and movies were so successful during the 30′s.

    Yeah, they had some strange ideas back then, like starting with a compelling story, turning it into a script, and then hiring talented actors to be in the film.

    These days, I think they start out with a fast food tie-in and go from there.


  171. orangecrush
    171 | June 28, 2010 3:51 pm

    So indeed the 5-4 decision does seem to reinforce the idea that liberals want to take your guns away.


  172. 172 | July 1, 2010 5:12 am

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  173. 173 | July 1, 2010 11:28 am

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