We are 16 months into the presidency of Barack Hussein Obama or as I call him the Viceroy of the Global Progressive-Islamic Axis of these Progressive Occupied States. He promised that if the stimulus was implemented, our economy would boom. In the beginning of this year some economic signs showed an uptick. Immediately the Progressive Propaganda media declared an economic boom of historic proportions. As we know reality set in and that uptick was just a mirage. In fact his policies have been job killers since his stimulus was really a hand out to unions, state governments and Unions. The Stock Market was artificially going up due to investors buying into the Obama boom lie. Now it is reiterating and repeating a pattern seen during the great depression. In short Obama’s 3rd World style policies have failed and put us deeper in debt and has put this nation at risk for more economic stagnation.
Roughly a million Americans have dropped out of the jobs market altogether over the past two months. That is the only reason why the headline unemployment rate is not exploding to a post-war high.
Let us be honest. The US is still trapped in depression a full 18 months into zero interest rates, quantitative easing (QE), and fiscal stimulus that has pushed the budget deficit above 10pc of GDP.
The share of the US working-age population with jobs in June actually fell from 58.7pc to 58.5pc. This is the real stress indicator. The ratio was 63pc three years ago. Eight million jobs have been lost.
The average time needed to find a job has risen to a record 35.2 weeks. Nothing like this has been seen before in the post-war era. Jeff Weninger, of Harris Private Bank, said this compares with a peak of 21.2 weeks in the Volcker recession of the early 1980s.
“Legions of individuals have been left with stale skills, and little prospect of finding meaningful work, and benefits that are being exhausted. By our math the crop of people who are unemployed but not receiving a check amounts to 9.2m.”
Republicans on Capitol Hill are filibustering a bill to extend the dole for up to 1.2m jobless facing an imminent cut-off. Dean Heller from Vermont called them “hobos”. This really is starting to feel like 1932.
Read the rest: With the US trapped in depression, this really is starting to feel like 1932
The mirage of the much hyped Obama Boom is over. Welcome to the cold reality of the Obama stagnation at best, depression at worst. Barack Hussein Obama is really turning this nation into 3rd world status. Then again, this was probably the plan all along.
Is a “stagnation” like a “stag party”, only on a national scale?
Paul Krugman was just on Charlie Rose saying he thinks Obama’s performance is less the stellar but he thinks we will be relected in 2012.
The clueless GoP needs to starting building a grassroots Obama attack plans to display the Obama weaknesses.
@ snork:
Stagnation is what we are going through. A National STag party would be better than this!
@ orangecrush:
The Democrats started to plan their destruction of the Bush presidency in 2002. They spread rumors, smears and email chains. By 2006, it worked and Bush was cripple. We need to do the same.
The saddest and most frightening part of the article that resonantes the most
@ orangecrush:
He will not be reelected if we offer a good alternative to him.
orangecrush wrote:
The tea party keeps trying to ejumicate them with a 2×4, but they’re beyond ejumication. All they want is to go back to the good old days when they got invited to the cool kids’ dinner parties, and the cool kids pretended to listen to them.
@ Rodan:
Nope, just need a Christie type, straight talking git’r done (R).
@ bar:
I love Christie and would love to seem him run.
@ snork:
David Frum, Katleen Parker, David Brooks, Chris Buckley and Peggy Noonan come to mind.
Yesterday zero and squatch ‘entertained’ a group of soldiers and their families on the WH lawn. A 4th of July BBQ with our military so he could get some much needed positive photo ops and press after his debacle with McChrystal. What a travesty that our military has to be used in such a way. I hope the BBQ was at least good.
@ Speranza:
Yup, it’s really a sad situation.
Rodan wrote:
This is a hideous thought but I wonder how many have or will take the ultimate irreversible step due to despair over the thought of never having a job again.
Rodan wrote:
As communist infiltrators attempting to destroy conservative America from the inside out?
They still keep pushing the Obama Boom theme. It’s incredible seeing the media spin the Obama economy.
@ Speranza:
That’s a good point. I wounder how many have done so already.
What? No hat tip? I posted this very link earlier!
Seriously, I am just glad to see the article getting a wider reception so more people can be aware that Europe is turning from Mancrush to derision and hatred of the Progressive at the helm.
@ Rodan:
Pretty amazing he is getting it done in NJ with Democrats in the majority. He is doing what needs to be done in California, too bad Arnold didnt have a clue how to get it done.
Maybe Meg will get a clue.
Rodan wrote:
They can push it but nobody’s buying it.
“Behold, thy Lord said to the angels: “I will create a vicegerent on earth.”"–Qur’an 2:30, Translation of Abdallah Yusuf Ali
@ Speranza:
@ Rodan:
Count at least one, me. Being disabled during boom times was hard enough to become gainfully employed, but now? HA!
Rodan wrote:
If Bush were president we sure would be informed about every one who did deep 6 themselves.
Speranza wrote:
Approx. 22% would buy a ham sandwich at a Bar/Bat Mitzvah, so there are still some who think Barry is the best thing, evah.
Yeah, and Mussolini made the trains run on time, too.
Rodan wrote:
I saw the planning was started the day after Gore conceded the election. 9/11 just gave a temporary surcease to the conspiracy, but greatly intensified when the Left realized that Bush was only helped by the attacks.
Wait’ll we get the inflation from the color copiers running overtime to print the funny money to cover some of the Obama spending spree. Stagflation! Carter on steroids!
@ bar:
I really hope Meg does go the Christie route.
Rodan wrote:
I’ve already seen/heard the Left’s meme if he does decide to go national, “he’s too fat”.
Rodan wrote:
I’m very impressed with him. He seems so natural and unaffected by p.c. nonsense. He’s a smart, courageous, low key guy who is getting the job done with out fanfare. He is just saying no to all the takers because he knows what happens when you run out of makers and that has nearly happened in Jersey.
I would like to see a Chris Christie/Allen West team.
@ Speranza:
Just the 45% that still support Obama.
chickadee wrote:
Do you think Christie is too fat to get elected? I’ve heard that already being used so as to discredit his running.
FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:
Nothing what so ever wrong with buying a Ham sandwich at a Bar/Bat Mitzvah, the question is… Who would sell a Ham sandwich at a Bar/Bat Mitzvah???
Obama is starting to sound like a petulant child, blaming the whole mess on Bush. He took an economic problem & turned it into a catastrophe.
He campaigned with all of the answers. Now his only answer seems
to be more destruction of the nation.
Rodan wrote:
The “Bush is an idiot” campaign began well before the Bush presidency. You have to remember that the late Molly Ivins had popularized the “Shrub” nickname for Bush even before he ran, and that disparaging moniker, with the implication of dimwittedness, was in full swing all through the campaign and the post-election furor over the Florida votes.
It vanished after 9/11, but the conviction that Bush was a moron did not, as we know. It was merely held in abeyance until the anger over 9/11 had receded sufficiently for the Democrats to undermine the war effort without immediately appearing to be fifth columnists.
FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:
Oh they will have no qualms using his weight as an issue., The Progressives are ruthless and will say anything.
Rodan wrote:
The only thing I am betting on Meg doing, is figuring she can make a killing off having been California’s governor. She isnt very bright and though Van Jones was the greatest thing to come out of California, she wont be getting my vote in Nov.
RIX wrote:
Barry campaigned solely on the platform that he wasn’t the other guy. He had no concrete policies, just nebulous platitudes befitting his self-anointed Messiahship.
Rodan wrote:
Yet the guy is on a regimen of losing the weight, and a quite sensible one at that. If the Left can’t use the “he’s too fat” meme, they will bring out the “he cared more about himself and his weight than about the state” one.
I guaran-dang-tee you about that.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Well they damned sure were and still are and should be tried for treason, except that the Fifth Column Marxist Propaganda Media made damned sure after the Rosenberg trial that nobody would every be charged with treason in America again.
Rodan wrote:
Just because the Left and the MFM beat that horse to death doesn’t mean they will stop simply because they can’t make the thing go any faster.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
It didn’t help Bush didn’t fight back. One must never let smears stand.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
How many people here remember when Bush choked on a pretzel, and many on the Left were calling for donations to buy more pretzels to “finish the job”.
Rodan wrote:
Quite true. He should have fought back for himself, and he should have used the power of the Presidency to keep America informed about the war instead of leaving it up to the media.
McCain, for that matter, should not have taken Bush’s refusal to fight back as his campaign strategy. But enough about that; may McCain speedily enjoy a comfortable retirement.
FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:
LOL, no I don’t think he is too fat to get elected. Corzine tried to make fun of him for his weight during the campaign and it backfired on him.
Lots of people in fly over country are fat and will be real annoyed if the scrawny, pencil neck, elitist zero and his cabal attack Christie for being chubby. That would be such a low down stunt.
RIX wrote:
Isn’t that really what FDR did with the First Depression? Nothing FDR did really helped, unless you think FDR tricked the Japanese into bombing Pearl Harbor. It was WWII that pulled us out of the Depression. Obama doesn’t have that option, unless he really wants to take on the Muzz. I don’t see that happening.
@ FurryOldGuyJeans:
Oh they will keep spinning this Obama boom crap.
Rodan wrote:
There is a fine line between fighting back and going off-track by talking too much.
Barry is the polar opposite of Bush in that respect.
chickadee wrote:
“I’d rather be big and have a lean budget than be slender and have a bloated budget.”
@ Iron Fist:
Obama loves this situation. Polls show 45% will never abandon him. He wants people to be poor so they depend on him.
Iron Fist wrote:
No, he’ll want us to take on Israel.
@ FurryOldGuyJeans:
Yup, he gets angry and starts demagoguing!
@ Rodan:
And I’ll bet all of that 45% are black now!
@ buzzsawmonkey:
McLame is sure fighting back against J.D. now. He is going REAL vile.
FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:
Bush was too quiet; Obama is voluble and defensive. He either doesn’t understand that shooting his mouth off the way he does shows weakness and falsehood, or he is arrogant enough not to care that he’s doing that.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Yup you got that spot on. Never let the enemy control the message.
Rodan wrote:
Yea, his father suffered a similar disposition, his failure to maintain a consistent dialog with the American public was his undoing. Both father and son held the mistaken belief that doing their job competently and quietly was what the American people expected of them.
What the American people expect from the President of the United States is that he/she be competent and engaged with the public.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I can’t wait to vote McCain’s ass OUT!
chickadee wrote:
Hmmmm, methinks I need to get away from the Left Coast and move inland so I could find someone that isn’t instantly repelled by a bit of fur and a paunch.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Not to mention offensive to so many folks!
@ FurryOldGuyJeans:
McCain only hammers Conservatives. He calls Leftists his friends. Keep in mind he called himself a Progressive Republican numerous times.
Macker wrote:
Patty “Grandma in tennis shoes” Murray in my case, but I agree with the sentiment totally.
He ran on slogans , his fabulousness & lets be honest , his race.
People just overlooked his lack of experience and evidence of competance.
@ doriangrey:
Exactly, one must get out there and speak.
Macker wrote:
Obama’s blatant falsification in his immigration speech of the history of the Statue of Liberty, and Emma Lazarus, made me feel angry and dirty. Angry, because either he and his staff are so dirt-ignorant that they don’t know the real history, or are so disdainful of the American people that they think nobody will notice. Dirty, because it was a clear—and really, really cheap—attempt to pander to the Jewish vote, which recent polls have observed he is losing.
@ RIX:
That’s why he’s at 45% approval and not 35%.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
That is probably what it is.
That’s exactly right. I grew up beleiving that FDR & his policies ended the Great Depression.
Actually his policies made things worse & it was WWII that got us out of it.
Rodan wrote:
And the MFM’s very public fellatio is probably another 10% of his approval.
@ doriangrey:
So your voting for Jerry Brown, how nice, the state will be so lucky to have him.
That is unfortunate , but true.
Rodan wrote:
The understanding that their job was to not only make executive decisions but to keep the American people informed of those decisions is what marked the Reagan and Clinton administrations as dynamic and successful.
I pretty much disagreed with everything Bill Clinton did, except for his never forgetting that what got him elected in the first place was his having a direct conversation with the American people. No doubt in my mind he learned it by studying what made Reagan successful and was a master at applying what he learned.
bar wrote:
Go fuck yourself bitch…
Did you guys see this shit?
bar wrote:
California could always have another recall election when Jerry screws up the state like Gray Davis did.
@ Iron Fist:
Yup saw that and it’s disturbing.
@ FurryOldGuyJeans:
If California votes in Jerry Brown, the other 49 States should expell them from the Union, and cut off all foreign aid. They will deserve everything they get from a Brown Administration.
@ doriangrey:
My, such eloquence. What did we do to be worthy of one such as you?
@ doriangrey:
Come on no need for that. Keep it intellectual and not personal.
@ Iron Fist:
Posted a link to that a couple of threads ago.
FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:
You can go fuck off and die too shithead…
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
That will be our campaign slogan.
@ doriangrey:
No, I don’t think I will do requests.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I always loved hearing that from some Starbucks employee.
I usually managed to supress the urge to ask them how many Ivy League degrees they had, or how many hours they had flying jet fighters, though.
Rodan wrote:
He’s been on a personal attack tear today that has been remarkable for the sheer viciousness.
lobo91 wrote:
You’ve got to remember that Starbucks employees are mere baristas, not barristers. You have to allow them some latte-tude.
@ doriangrey:
Hugs and kisses to you too, huckleberry.
@ doriangrey:
Dude, chill out. No need for that.
Rodan wrote:
I’m tired of their bullshit, FOGJ wants to insult my state and when I say to him exactly what he said about California he wants to take it personal, but I shouldn’t?
Bar want’s to suggest that failing to vote for a damned Marxist loving imbecile equated to voting for a democrat moonbat and I’m not suppose to take that personal?
No, when furry and Bar stop making it personal I will stop taking it personal. They cannot claim I am being rude or uncivil when they started with the rude and uncivil behavior, you want to tell anyone to stop making it personal then how about telling them to stop making it personal, but dont slap me around for defending myself or my home.
@ doriangrey:
You first, but don’t forget to bring your lunch.
totally OT, but did anyone already mention this in another thread?
Israel to allow most goods into Gaza
Iron Fist wrote:
You must stand corrected sir. 57 states and one left to go.
bar wrote:
Ah, back to the threats of physical violence again?
@ doriangrey:
Ah, so having an opinion about the fiscal knuckledheadedness of a state is now a personal attack against you.
Ok, whatever you say. I can’t keep up with the sheer magnitude of your intellectual majesty.
@ Iron Fist:
We’re ready for them:
@ doriangrey:
It’s the language I’m referring too. You guys can argue all you want. I was referring to the language.
@ doriangrey:
I’m sorry you’re voting for that guy. I don’t think that’s a wise decision. But hey, it’s your vote, so you’re welcome to wasting it on Jerry.
doriangrey wrote:
Sounds like a sex shop.
snork wrote:
Or a really kinky tavern.
Macker wrote:
Hey, who knows? Brown could win—and if he leads the state to recovery, California can brag that it is jerry-built.
@ snork:
Classic!
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I think zero and his whole staff of commie dregs are basically ignorant of the history of America. And banking on most voters to not question his blatant lies.
Rush tore zero a new one on his complete distortion of the facts abt. the Statue of Liberty and Emma Lazarus. He was so pissed abt. zero just making up shit just to enhance himself and his agenda on amnesty. The Statue of Liberty was abt. Freedom and Liberty. It was never the Statue of Immigration.
btw fck zero for misrepresenting Emma Lazarus who was in fact a big supporter of a homeland for the Jews. He should have pointed that out.
FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:
And I’m staying out of this brawl, but let me just point out that California’s fiscal knuckledheadedness has already cost the State of Washington (where furry and I both live). During the Greyout Davis years, when you guys were out of power due to your own piss poor planning, you were sucking OUR electric grid dry, and WE were having to augment with portable diesel generators. So California’s fiscal knuckledheadedness does affect the rest of us. And let’s not even get started about the boycott of AZ.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Or some unlucky Californian with a camcorder could catch him and Linda in delicto once again on Malibu Beach….
FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:
When you suggest that the California is a rotting corpse that should be buried, that is a personal attack on every person in that state. You want to be offended when it is said about you but don’t believe anyone else should find it offensive said about them.
That sir is the absolute height of intellectual dishonesty and hypocrisy. I, like a majority of my fellow residents do not like the way my state is governed, but that by no means indicates or suggests that I dislike my home.
chickadee wrote:
That requires a person have a personal code of ethics and honesty that are not part nor parcel even a smidgen included in Barry’s DNA.
@ FurryOldGuyJeans:
A furry bar. No, I have NO curiosity. Not going in and looking…
@ chickadee:
WPPSS. That was supposed to be @ Dorian.
@ chickadee:
Some intern probably spent at least 5 minutes on Wikipedia to gather those “facts”…
@ doriangrey:
Go ahead and insult my home state of Washington all you want, you will find me right there beside you heaping abuse on the feckless politicians and imbecilic voters that enable them.
Thanks for the stimulating intellectual discourse.
Huh? The quote fucktion is all funcked up.
Macker wrote:
What the fuck is wrong with you? do I have to start slapping you around now too? I am not voting for Jerry “barking moonbat” Brown, and refusing to vote for Meg “I love Karl Marx” Whitman is not a vote for Jerry “barking moonbat” Brown…
@ snork:
I think Arizona should cut off all power ecxports to California until they end their unwise embargo. The only reason Leftista get away with a lot of the shit they do is because the Right doesn’t take advantage of their weaknesses and grind them down into the mud. Cut off all the power to Los Angerles, and let them worry about the inevitible rioting, looting, and all the other lovely things that come with Southern California.
@ snork:
And I think I shall follow your wise and sage course of bowing out.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
No, he’ll just run to DC, and get the funds that were jerry-manded.
doriangrey wrote:
That is the epitaph on the grave stone of the bully who beat me up as a kid. How did you know?
snork wrote:
I bet Meret Oppenheim designed the accessories.
@ doriangrey:
Then please tell us who you ARE going to vote for!
I’m perfectly willing to let Californians sort out their own problems. Or go to hell in a handbasket, if that is their preference.
But make a move for my wallet, and the shit will hit the fan. And, so far as I can tell, that seems to be the current plan.
Iron Fist wrote:
Check the thread queue.
doriangrey wrote:
Shut up hippy. Heheheheheheh.
@ midwestgak:
Hey, gak! If you look in at the current C2 thread, you’ll probably like #153.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Does PETA have a position on that?
@ snork:
That is what I meant earlier. That shouldn’t be allowed to happen. If the Californicators are stupid enougfh to put Jerry Brown in Charge, they should have the courage of their convictions and not come begging to the rest of the nation to fix their problems. California ia America’s Greece. They’ve spent themselves into a deep hole mostly by paying public employees insane salaries and benifits, and they refuse to even Consider putting the breaks on that. Fine by me, but we shouldn’t have to loan them the money to keep doing it. Maybe when faced with a real fiscal problem they will get real about dealing with it, instead of living in a Hollyweird dreamworld.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Attention BUNKY! Dig there ^^^^^^^^^
snork wrote:
Probably the same one they assume on most issues; the cranial/rectal insertion.
FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:
Dude, seriously, an actual intellectual discourse would be totally lost on you, it would have all the potential for producing a meeting of the minds as attempting to teach a pig to sing would produce a Beverly Sills…
snork wrote:
Dont you fucking make me throw a bar of soap at you…
FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:
I’ve already got a date tonight.
doriangrey wrote:
An Upper West Side liberal (now that is a redundancy) Jew.
Iron Fist wrote:
CA’s comptroller is not only defying the law and the state’s governor, but he is defying the Third District Court Of Appeals in implementing the new wage law:
CA Dem Blocks Law Mandated Wage Cut
@ doriangrey:
No, not like pristine you has ever thrown any insults or slung your vulgar bullshit around.
I love the preschool “but he started it bullshit”? Thats classic. Perhaps you would like to give a lecture on biblical morals now. No, wait a minute you havent accused anyone of wife beating and child molestation yet.
Threats of violence? You pussy musicians are all alike. Maybe I will shove a stick through your spokes also. There, now you can cry about the big bad man picking on you, maybe you can blog about it?
Speranza wrote:
Um…isn’t the Upper West Side where the Communists live? But I repeat myself. And ya wanna know something funny? I invited a Jewish lady to my wedding…guess what she and her daughter ate. Right in front of the wedding party.
/snicker
Macker wrote:
See how east it is to actually you know, ask? That would be the real conservative running for Governor Chelene Nightingale
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Read it. I would like it because . . .?
doriangrey wrote:
I cannot disagree with you on that. Especially since the MSM will never tell the truth about a Republican who is quietly doing his job with competence.
All this California talk and Jerry Brown references calls for this.
@ Speranza:
Exactly any Republican President must get out there speak with the people. Reagan did this effectively. The Bushes let their enemies define them.
bar wrote:
Oh, that’s right, you didnt actually offer to kick my ass, you were just being factious, right.. Dude, you are such a lying interweb tough guy, I r sooo scareds of U’s…..
@ doriangrey:
How many California government positions are currently held by a Constitution Party member?
@ Macker:
Ham sandwiches? Pulled pork sandwiches? What? What???
Macker wrote:
Have you seen what Linda Ronstadt looks like lately? And they say that Chris Christie is plump!
waldensianspirit wrote:
Does it matter? How many are currently held by lying thieving crooks in the Republican and democrat parties? And just in case you are unaware, here in California the parties are 100 percent interchangeable.
@ savages_girl:
Ham!
Sorry to go OT from the food fight, but did anybody see this?
NASA’s Top 3 Missions as Directed by Comrade O-hole.
@ Philip_Daniel:
Wow, that’s spooky. One of the Pope’s titles is Vicegerent of the Almighty. I don’t think that’s who the writer is referring to.
@ doriangrey:
It matters. Conservatives will only make it back if they hit all the low hanging fruit and grow to the point of running for the big positions. Going straight for being govenatorial and Presidential candidates is Ross Perot territory.
Macker wrote:
Well I think that most Upper West Siders are just ultra liberals. There are some old commies still there though.
@ Speranza:
How can I NOT? She lives here in AZ.
@ huckfunn:
You’re only the 4th or 5th person who linked it, so far.
Somebody needs a time out. Charles!
Macker wrote:
and she supports a boycott of her own state!
@ huckfunn:
Yup we saw that.
midwestgak wrote:
I just figured, from our conversation the other day, that a little gratuitous Gilbert & Sullivan would be your thing.
Macker wrote:
Blocking out the sun for a quarter of the state, eh? Sounds like the late Teddy Kennedy for his sheer
presencebulk.@ Speranza:
Even Roosevelt, with all the public dick-sucking he got from the lapdog media had to constantly pimp himself, especially once WWII started. Bush should have taken a lesson from his “Fireside Chats” and given the American people a pep talk from the Oval Office about once every six weeeks or two months to assure them that everything was alright. Our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (even now) were amazingly bloodless for our side (I doubt the Jihadis felt the same way). Yes, victory was a long, hard slog in Iraq, but it was always a contest of wills. Bush could and should have fortefied public will against our enemy, and strengthened public support for the war. He should have called out personally traitors like Ted Kennedy and Dick Durbin (D-al Qaeda), and led in puyblic shaming them for their anti-American public diatribes. Bush could have been a better wartime leader. History will remember him more kindly that the contemporary press did, but he could have fought that had he so chosen. He lacked an instinct for the jugular that hurt him in his dealings with domestic enemies as well as foreign ones.
@ huckfunn:
As I said, Obama’s just restoring science to its rightful place.
@ FurryOldGuyJeans:
Ooops! Just got here. You don’t think I read all this crap do ya?
Rodan wrote:
and when you let the other side define you, you are toast. Platitudes like a “kinder, gentler,nation” coming form a country club Republican don’t cut it.
doriangrey wrote:
Good thing, too; if the system breaks down, it’s easy to get spare parts.
@ Iron Fist:
Your analysis is spot on!
@ Iron Fist:
For 3 wasted years (until General Petraeus came up with his surge plan) he let the war stagnant. Three years which we can never have back and how many American lives were lost?
snork wrote:
Alchemy?
@ Speranza:
To paraphrase, politics is war through other means. The Democrats get it, our side doesn’t.
waldensianspirit wrote:
That presumes that the “throw them all out” attitude doesn’t have an impact. The die heard ideologues in each party will vote for whomever their party nominates, California has 17 million registered voters, the ideologues, about 1.1 million Republicans and about 1.4 million Democrats.
That leaves about 14 million pissed off Californians whose vote cant be counted on. Ask Grey Davis what that means.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
OVER MY HEAD IT Went. Three little maids.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Politics.
snork wrote:
Actually, it’s kind of ironic that a certain plus-sized blogger who is currently chapping his lips fellating the Democrats because he thinks “Republicans are anti-science” should be supporting a President who, shall we say, does not seem to have a real commitment to government-funded scientific advancement.
@ Speranza:
Bush thought that by having Democracy, the Iraqis would stop fighting. Eventually he realized it was a pipe dream and only by using Petraeus’ tactics did we finally get the situation under control. He had academics running the show.
What I would like to see is a bunch of courageous unidentified Tea Partiers become DINO’s and talk the progressive filth till they get elected and then do completely the opposite. It would be a dirty job but a lot of fun could be had.
i am sick and tired of all this fighting! someone on this thread got his peter all bent out of shape because someone else “insulted” his state. try living in Arizona!
then someone got his peter bent even further when people indirectly point out that voting for some unknown who has no chance of winning results in leftists winning. gee, too bad, so sad but take a look around! that’s how it always works!
quite yer damn bitching and yapping and attacking the decent people here and do something about it. all this does is result in more doomage.
bye! damnit.
Rodan wrote:
Our side has leaders are scared and frightened little people.
Rodan wrote:
Obama has nothing but college professors running his show too!
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Worse. My shrunken punkin head will probably end up on some jazz kook’s lodge pole.
@ Speranza:
Bush Senior probably lost to Clinton because he stabbed Second Amendment voters in the back with his unilateral Executive Order banning the import of semi-automatic rifles. As I have said repeatedly, Republicans do themselves no vfavors by not being four-square behind the Second Amendment position. That ban did not earn Bush a single vote from the Left. Not one. The people who vote based on pro-gun control positions will never vote for a Republican no moatter what. OTOH, the Republicans can bleed voters on the Second Amendment front if voters figure thast there is no difference between the parties or, as in 1992, they have a viable third-party cansdidate to vent their frustrations with. The Repuyblicans should take up the Second Amendment banner after McDonald, and start working to repeal some of the more useless gun control laws on the books (short-barreled rifles and shotguns would be an excellent example), and attack Democrats like Daley who are four-square against the tide of history. Make the rest of the Democrat Party decide either to support Daley or condemn him. That would be an interesting twist for the fall elections…
Rodan wrote:
And every US president before him.
@ Rodan:
Exactly. War to the Knife, Knife to the hilt. No mercy should be our only command.
Iron Fist wrote:
Nathan Bedford Forrest said that in 1862.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
How about we just set it on fire and start over from scratch? What is that site Taxfreekiller is always linking too? BLOW OUT CONGRESS
doriangrey wrote:
That’s another thing that needs to be changed.
Speranza wrote:
A small point of order: The “surge” strategy was not Petraeus’ idea. He only implemented it.
The plan was developed by retired General Jack Keane, Fred Kagan of the American Enterprise Institute, and, to some extent, General Odierno.
@ Rodan:
President Bush banned Franklin Graham from the White House because Bush couldn’t handle the truth.
huckfunn wrote:
hmm. That sounds attactive. What are you doin’ tonight, hon? Can I buy you a drink?
Rodan wrote:
I am not a lawyer, but in the legal arena, failure to deny an allegation when a denial would have been expected, counts as an admission of guilt.
Youmidwestgak wrote:
Your third in line behind Mrs. Funn and Furry.
@ Iron Fist:
Actually Bush 41 blew it when he wentback on his “\read my lips no new taxes pledge”. He failed to reduce the deficit and proved to be a liar
The Souter pick for SCOTUS sucked a big one too. He threw one too many bones to the Socons and neglected the really important things like jobs,jobs,jobs.
@ doriangrey:
It really sucks to have to explain this shit to your stupid ass.
You said to me: “go fuck yourself bitch”
I replied: “you first, but don’t forget your lunch”
This time it is not a threat of kicking your whiny pussy (CJ) ass.
I am insinuating that even “you” cant kick “your” own ass without it taking all fucking day and having to explain this shit to you just proves my point: that you are a moron.
@ Speranza:
For all his racial indescritions (to say the least), Forrest was still a brilliant General. One of the best on either side. If not for his other problems (I’m speaking of the Klan, not Fort Pillow), he would have been remembered much more favorably. It is just that his activities after the war were disgraceful.
This is a TEST. This is only a TEST:
lobo91 wrote:
I stand corrected.
huckfunn wrote:
Can’t wait. Movin’ on. So sorry to see it end. We had so much going on together. Taxi!!!!!
Actually he did not create the KLan and he ultimately disbanded it and in his later life became a spokesman for racial conciliation. His views on race during the Civil War were pretty much the same as General Sherman’s and the rest of the nation. Ft.Pillow is a lot of controversy. The fort was garrisoned by Tennessee Unionists and the sight of Tennesseans wearing Federal Blue infuriated his men.
@ Speranza:
It’s a common misconception, especially among those not in the military.
Petraeus pretty much became the public face of the war about that time.
midwestgak wrote:
Read my lips; no new taxis.
bar wrote:
Is this suppose to display your intellectual prowess? Admitting that you have made threats of physical violence but that this time those threats of violence aren’t actual threats of violence? Yet oddly at the same time you feel confident to call me a moron.
@ Speranza:
I don’t think you can call Souter a bone to the SoCons. He was a bone to the Democrats after Clarence Thomas had faced his “high-tech lynching”. The same can be said of Bush’s going back on his pledge not to raise taxes. That was also a compromise with the Democrats, not any bone to conservatives, social or fiscal. Bush betrayed his base in many ways. and that base, some almost 20- million of them, voted for Ross Perot in response. Far more than enough to have put him over the top had he made any real effort to reach out to them.
Iron Fist wrote:
I wasn’t referring to Souter as a bon eto the SoCons. He was recommended by his unctious chief of Staff John Sunnunu and turned out to be a super liberal.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Clever, you are.
Public Announcement: My johnson swing more ponderously-pendulously than anyone else’s on this board.
Carry on…
Oh dear… SPAM celebrates it’s 50th birthday today…
@ Iron Fist:
Exactly!
@ 1389AD:
Yup!
@ doriangrey:
I don’t pretend to have any “intellectual prowess”, and it was apparent to me (?) that none was needed in this instance.
With regard to the previous “physical threat” we all know how you musician types react to what is said on-line. Stick meet spokes, time to soil ourselves…
OT:
Iran issues list of approved Muslim hairstyles for men
Chairman Maohammad is pleased…
doriangrey wrote:
Spam is celebrated every year in Austin at the Spamarama.
@ Philip_Daniel:
If allah doesnt have a wife how did he get the daughters?
bar wrote:
Unlike you, I don’t go around threatening people with physical violence, I dont attempt to persuade people I am some kind of interweb bad ass or lie about threats I have made.
You made the threat, you dared me to meet you someplace where you offered to kick the living shit out of me. Now you are attempting to equate me with Charles Johnson for reminding everyone that you do actually make threats on peoples lives over the internet.
Once again I will reiterate. I do not threaten people online, and I do not threaten them in person, nor for that matter do I feel threatened by your threats, that said, yes I really am 6’1″ and weight 200lbs, and all of my tattoos were received in a correctional institute. Not all musicians are pussies like Charles.
mjazz wrote:
There are several goats that are hoping that you do not ask them that question…
@ doriangrey:
Well now Im really scared… Except I don’t think the “correctional institute for fucking tattooed clowns” really counts for much.
midwestgak wrote:
Ok now that was friggen adorable! LOL!
@ waldensianspirit:
They may as well whip’em out, grab a ruler and get it over with! I’m headed to the next thread, in case it comes to that. LOL!
bar wrote:
You are not suppose to be scared since I do not threaten people (unlike someone else, I actually feel no need to prove my masculinity by threatening or demeaning anyone else’s), oh and I really do appreciate you informing me that the correctional institutes of Oklahoma and California are “correctional institute for fucking tattooed clowns” because neither I nor anyone else who has ever vacationed in one of those country-clubs were aware that that’s what they were.
huckfunn wrote:
Ummm, thanks, but no thanks, I am not into menages.
@ doriangrey:
Well, if I wasnt “suppose to be scared” because tattooed-clowns don’t threaten anyone nowheres evers, then maybe you can explain why you posted your stats (6’1″ 200Ibs-fucking clown w/ fucking-gay-clown-tattoos) like this is some instant hook-up or fuck-me website?
Threatening to kick your ass was not too beef-up my manhood as you suggest, it was a direct response to you making a personal insult towards me, nothing more, nothing less. My despise for you was not created in a vacuum.
And why the fuck would for one minute would you think that folks that need to be incarcerated (great tattoos) are not fucking clowns to begin with? Of course if you are a fucking reformed clown, then come clean. We (those that have never been incarcerated) are often forgiving of fucking reformed clowns.
This comedy writes itself, you cant make this shit up…
bar wrote:
You are a fucking liar, period. Making anonymous threats really make you so fucking scary.
@ huckfunn:
Old-ass site.
@ doriangrey:
Right, I forgot you don’t make the initiatory insult, you only reply in kind. Typical pussy.