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Mother of Infant Saved by Israelis Hopes He Will Murder Them

by Eliana ( 160 Comments › )
Filed under Gaza, Israel, Terrorism at July 9th, 2010 - 11:30 am

A Gazan woman with an infant dying from a genetic defect that causes failure of the immune system took the child to Israel for expensive life-saving treatments. Individual Israelis donated money to help save the boy’s life.

It was such a heartwarming story about how the two peoples might be able to come together someday that an Israeli journalist started filming it as a documentary.

Imagine the filmmaker’s surprise when the woman explained to him that she hoped her desperately ill baby would grow up to murder Israelis someday.

Nevertheless, this idyllic situation developed into a deep crisis that led to the severance of the relations and what appeared to be the end of the filming. From an innocent conversation about religious holidays, Raida Abu Mustafa launched into a painful monologue about the culture of the shahids – the martyrs – and admitted, during the complex transplant process, that she would like to see her son perpetrate a suicide bombing attack in Jerusalem.

“Jerusalem is ours,” she declared. “We are all for Jerusalem, the whole nation, not just a million, all of us. Do you understand what that means – all of us?”

She also explained to Eldar exactly what she had in mind. “For us, death is a natural thing. We are not frightened of death. From the smallest infant, even smaller than Mohammed, to the oldest person, we will all sacrifice ourselves for the sake of Jerusalem. We feel we have the right to it. You’re free to be angry, so be angry.”

And Eldar was angry. “Then why are you fighting to save your son’s life, if you say that death is a usual thing for your people?” he lashes out in one of the most dramatic moments in the film.

“It is a regular thing,” she smiles at him. “Life is not precious. Life is precious, but not for us. For us, life is nothing, not worth a thing. That is why we have so many suicide bombers. They are not afraid of death. None of us, not even the children, are afraid of death. It is natural for us. After Mohammed [her sick infant] gets well, I will certainly want him to be a shahid. If it’s for Jerusalem, then there’s no problem. For you it is hard, I know; with us, there are cries of rejoicing and happiness when someone falls as a shahid. For us a shahid is a tremendous thing.”

Saving Mohammed Abu-Mustafa

When the liberal peacemakers say that all cultures are alike and we all want the same things, they aren’t just liars. They are damn liars.

Hat Tip: Carl in Jerusalem & Elder of Ziyon

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160 Responses to “Mother of Infant Saved by Israelis Hopes He Will Murder Them”
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  1. snork
    1 | July 9, 2010 11:35 am

    And there’s no irony. Of course the dhimmi owe this to them.


  2. calcajun
    2 | July 9, 2010 11:36 am

    Great way to start the day. If they want to die, then we need to help them achieve that goal and do it as quickly as possible.


  3. snork
    3 | July 9, 2010 11:36 am

    And I hope those dingbat moonbat Israelis who donated to this “cause” feel good about their “mitzvahs”.


  4. m
    4 | July 9, 2010 11:38 am

    The only reason they claim to care about Jerusalem is because it doesn’t frikken belong to them! ! !

    Let’s see… Israelis have thousands of years of history… but MO HAD A DREAM see…


  5. 5 | July 9, 2010 11:40 am

    “Jerusalem is ours,” she declared. “We are all for Jerusalem, the whole nation, not just a million, all of us. Do you understand what that means – all of us?”

    It means we have to kill all of you. I’m all for getting started.


  6. texasam7
    6 | July 9, 2010 11:40 am

    Oh…my….GOD!!!


  7. huckfunn
    7 | July 9, 2010 11:41 am

    calcajun wrote:

    Great way to start the day. If they want to die, then we need to help them achieve that goal and do it as quickly as possible.

    They want to die. We want to live and we want to kill them. Perfect war. Everyone can be happy.


  8. citizen_q
    8 | July 9, 2010 11:44 am

    m wrote:

    The only reason they claim to care about Jerusalem is because it doesn’t frikken belong to them! ! !
    Let’s see… Israelis have thousands of years of history… but MO HAD A DREAM see…

    There are pictures on the web showing the state of disrepair of the the muslim’s disgusting boil on the temple mount. The only time it is important is if it is not in muslim hands.


  9. 9 | July 9, 2010 11:44 am

    @ huckfunn:

    We now have a General over CENTCOM that thinks sometimes it is “fun” to kill the enemy (WooHoo! :twisted: ). I have to say, this is the first thing Obama’s done that I think is right. That makes me wonder if I am wrong…


  10. vapig
    10 | July 9, 2010 11:45 am

    m wrote:

    The only reason they claim to care about Jerusalem is because it doesn’t frikken belong to them! ! !
    Let’s see… Israelis have thousands of years of history… but MO HAD A DREAM see…

    Mo may have had a dream, but nowhere in any of their literature is Jerusalem even mentioned.


  11. Macker
    11 | July 9, 2010 11:46 am

    I wish we had Stargate technology….then we could deport these animals off our planet!


  12. vapig
    12 | July 9, 2010 11:46 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    We now have a General over CENTCOM that thinks sometimes it is “fun” to kill the enemy (WooHoo! ). I have to say, this is the first thing Obama’s done that I think is right. That makes me wonder if I am wrong…

    Nah -- the guy is a good egg and the fact is, Obama is plain running out of generals. Only so many people (I think there were two) are qualified for the post.


  13. midwestgak
    13 | July 9, 2010 11:46 am

    calcajun wrote:

    If they want to die, then we need to help them achieve that goal and do it as quickly as possible.

    Ya, and tell them it is for Jerusalem.


  14. Eliana
    14 | July 9, 2010 11:47 am

    In Judea and Samaria 4 or 5 years ago, “Palestinian” parents were protesting to Fatah and other terror groups that these groups were trying to get their kids to commit suicide bombings before they were 18 years old.

    The parents weren’t protesting the idea of their kids committing suicide. They only protested the idea of the kids committing suicide before they turned 18.

    After the age of 18, they were more than happy to see their kids die.

    One kid was recruited anyway and he had to blow up alone since he couldn’t make it into Israel. His parents protested that the terror group should have waited to recruit him until there was a good chance for him to get near some Jews to murder. They didn’t mind that he committed suicide but they were upset that he didn’t get to kill any Jews while doing it.

    This is who Israel is dealing with.


  15. huckfunn
    15 | July 9, 2010 11:47 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    It’s good to see a general who is happy in his work. McChrystal, while a good soldier and general, seemed a little grumpy about it. Tommy Franks was a happy warrior.


  16. citizen_q
    16 | July 9, 2010 11:49 am

    BTW, this is not the first time I have heard this type story.

    Attack by female suicide bomber thwarted at Erez crossing

    Twenty-one-year-old Wafa Samir Ibrahim al-Biss was arrested Monday morning, June 20, 2005, at the Erez crossing, after attempting to smuggle an explosives belt through the crossing with the intent of carrying out a suicide bombing attack.

    Wafa, 21, a resident of Jabaliya, aroused the suspicion of the soldiers at the crossing and during her security check, and when she realized they had discovered the explosive belt on her body, she attempted unsuccessfully to detonate it.

    Wafa stated in her questioning that she had been dispatched as a suicide bomber by the Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade infrastructure based in the northern Gaza Strip. Wafa was to use her personal medical authorization documents, allowing her to cross through into Israel to receive medical treatment. Wafa stated that she had been directed to carry out the suicide attack in a crowded Israeli hospital.

    Wafa had been admitted to Soroka Medical Center in Beersheva between December 2004 and January 2005 for treatment of massive burns she received as a result of a gas-tank explosion.

    Wafa was given permission to enter Israel Monday, June 20, for admission to the hospital for medical treatment. The terrorist infrastructure attempted to take advantage of her medical condition in order to carry out a major suicide bombing attack inside Israel.

    There have been several attempts by terrorist organizations to dispatch terrorists to Israel from the Gaza Strip by exploiting those in need of medical treatment:

    Spit! Why give aid and succor to those who only use human kindness as a lever to attack you?


  17. 17 | July 9, 2010 11:50 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    The Serbs knew what they were doing and that’s why I admire them. I can’t wait until the Israelis wake up and slaughter these savages.

    I will celebrate like I haven’t in years!


  18. Speranza
    18 | July 9, 2010 11:50 am

    Unfortunately stories like these are all to common. There was a Palestinian girl from Gaza who used to get admitted to Sorokin Hospital in Beersheba to treat her hand injuries suffered from an oven explosion, well she tried and failed to blow the hospital up. Such a sick fucking demented bunch of people! As Oscar Wilde once said “No good deed goes unpunished”.
    Watch the video from 2003
    Descent from patient to suicide bomber


  19. m
    19 | July 9, 2010 11:51 am

    @ vapig:

    Nope. “Farthest mosque”? Sounds like Siberia to me.


  20. 20 | July 9, 2010 11:51 am

    @ citizen_q:

    Israel needs to stop being nice. They need to be brutal and vicious and treat the Arab Muslims as the savages they are.


  21. midwestgak
    21 | July 9, 2010 11:51 am

    vapig wrote:

    Nah – the guy is a good egg and the fact is, Obama is plain running out of generals. Only so many people (I think there were two) are qualified for the post.

    You may be right about the guy and hope you are right, but since when have qualifications mattered to Obama?


  22. Speranza
    22 | July 9, 2010 11:51 am

    Wow I did not notice that Citizen_q already covered this story. What a coincidence!


  23. Macker
    23 | July 9, 2010 11:51 am

    huckfunn wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    It’s good to see a general who is happy in his work. McChrystal, while a good soldier and general, seemed a little grumpy about it. Tommy Franks was a happy warrior.

    So was Stormin’ Norman.


  24. chickadee
    24 | July 9, 2010 11:51 am

    These scum have less moral integrity than a crocodile.
    This is what islam does to human beings. The hate makes them dead inside, unable to feel natural human emotions, love, kindness, thankfulness, joy, appreciation.
    Even a crocodile tries to nurture it’s young more than a muzz mother.
    These muzz animals with murder in their hearts contribute nothing of value to society.
    They are not human.


  25. 25 | July 9, 2010 11:52 am

    @ Speranza:

    Exactly, I really don’t get the Israeli mindset of being nice to people that hate you.


  26. citizen_q
    26 | July 9, 2010 11:53 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    @ Rodan:

    I fully understand. Us or them. I choose us.


  27. snork
    27 | July 9, 2010 11:53 am

    Jerusalem has a fascination that borders on the mythical. The Brits have a fantasy about Jerusalem having been in England once upon a time. This has led to a very peculiar variation on the replacement theology theme called British Israelism. This is a favorite among white supremacists.


  28. 28 | July 9, 2010 11:54 am

    @ Rodan:

    Yeah, they really have no other option. Many years ago I talked about coming to the rational rationalization for genocide where the Mohammedans were concerned. If you slaughtered all but one of them, that last one would commit suicide trying to blow up some children. The world really isn’t big enough for the both of us.


  29. 29 | July 9, 2010 11:54 am

    The Israelis better crush these barbarians next time.

    Hezbollah’s new tourist park, meant to indoctrinate visitors with the ideals of the Islamic Resistance, may be the latest sign that another war is on the horizon

    I hate the Lebanese Shia Arabs sub human scum who occupy Phoenician Christian land. Death to ALL of Them!


  30. snork
    30 | July 9, 2010 11:55 am

    Macker wrote:

    So was Stormin’ Norman.

    But his boss, Powell, wasn’t comfortable projecting power, and wanted to be “chivalrous”.


  31. Bob in Breckenridge
    31 | July 9, 2010 11:55 am

    As if we needed it, it’s yet more proof that those 7th century islamic savages have no intentions of ever living in peace with Israel.
    The IDF should go in there and just bomb the shit out of the Gaza, and send the paleo-stinians who are left into Egypt and Jordan.
    Is-slime always has been and always will be a cancer upon the world.


  32. 32 | July 9, 2010 11:55 am

    @ citizen_q:

    If only your Israeli cousins get the concept then there will be real peace. After a final Israeli victory over Islamic forces.


  33. 33 | July 9, 2010 11:58 am

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    The IDF should re establish contact with lebanese Christians. Arm them and then both attack Hizballah. SO the Israelis keep their hands clean, let the Lebanese Christians deal with Lebanese SHia. They must be removed from Lebanon, by any means once and for all.

    I have Lebanese Christian blood in me, so this is personal. I HATE Leabese Shia and wish death on ALL of them. They are the offspring of Lucifer and a witch.

    I stand by that.


  34. 34 | July 9, 2010 11:59 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    The world really isn’t big enough for the both of us.

    The Lebanese shia should be removed or eliminated from Lebanon.


  35. huckfunn
    35 | July 9, 2010 12:01 pm

    Macker wrote:

    So was Stormin’ Norman.

    I’d almost forgotten about him. I loved his briefings. One never had to wonder about where he stood on a given subject. No ambiguous PC-speak. The clarity was refreshing.


  36. vapig
    36 | July 9, 2010 12:01 pm

    m wrote:

    @ vapig:
    Nope. “Farthest mosque”? Sounds like Siberia to me.

    wow! Two avatars in one morning! Now officially noon on the east coast! Weekend is almost here!


  37. Lily
    37 | July 9, 2010 12:01 pm

    This is just plain evil…(and yes I know what Islam is about).
    Think of this….bring the dying baby to Israel to save his life so he can die later as a good muslim as a suicide bomber.
    There is no love of life in Islam, there is no love in Islam.
    It is an empty hollow hole of nothing but death, greed to take infidels money, and to make sure your children are taught to kill themselves so they can kill innocents while they kill themselves.
    This religion is not of God. I know I am preaching to the choir..but Islam is a religion of death and murder it’s god is the father of all lies.


  38. huckfunn
    38 | July 9, 2010 12:01 pm

    Gotta go earn my keep.

    Later


  39. vapig
    39 | July 9, 2010 12:02 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Macker wrote:
    So was Stormin’ Norman.
    I’d almost forgotten about him. I loved his briefings. One never had to wonder about where he stood on a given subject. No ambiguous PC-speak. The clarity was refreshing.

    I liked that Major General Honore in New Orleans!


  40. Speranza
    40 | July 9, 2010 12:02 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Exactly, I really don’t get the Israeli mindset of being nice to people that hate you.

    The Israeli chattering classes can be as bad as their Anglo-American cousins. Full of liberal guilt and self doubt.


  41. Macker
    41 | July 9, 2010 12:02 pm

    @ Lily:

    Why you mean Stan, don’t you?!


  42. vapig
    42 | July 9, 2010 12:03 pm

    midwestgak wrote:

    vapig wrote:
    Nah – the guy is a good egg and the fact is, Obama is plain running out of generals. Only so many people (I think there were two) are qualified for the post.
    You may be right about the guy and hope you are right, but since when have qualifications mattered to Obama?

    I know. Our Marine isn’t in the office today so I can’t ask him. In fact (looks around) NONE of our officers are in today…….


  43. 43 | July 9, 2010 12:04 pm

    @ Speranza:

    The Israeli chattering classes can be as bad as their Anglo-American cousins. Full of liberal guilt and self doubt.

    Yup, we are our own worst enemies. Evertime I hear tolerance and understanding, I want to vomit!


  44. midwestgak
    44 | July 9, 2010 12:05 pm

    vapig wrote:

    wow! Two avatars in one morning!

    What does that mean? Asking humbly.


  45. Lily
    45 | July 9, 2010 12:05 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Exactly, I really don’t get the Israeli mindset of being nice to people that hate you.

    It was a baby. It really proves that the Israeli’s have love and charity in there heart. Yet most the world accuses them of war crimes.
    Israel is a just nation. And that is what matters here.


  46. m
    46 | July 9, 2010 12:06 pm

    @ vapig:

    Yeah, I haven’t decided what fits my mood at the moment… I really need Iron Fist’s old KABOOM avatar after reading this post.


  47. 47 | July 9, 2010 12:06 pm

    Sorry for my emotional outburts a few comments back. I am proud of my Lebanese roots (Grandma’s family), so I hate Hizballah. I can never visit Lebanon until the Shia vermin are gone.


  48. Bumr50
    48 | July 9, 2010 12:06 pm

    @ snork:

    Morning all!

    Chivalrous is great! You mean kill them on horseback with sabers right?

    Ohhhh. That would be cavalrous.


  49. 49 | July 9, 2010 12:07 pm

    @ Lily:

    A baby that will come back and try to kill them. Israel wins no brownie points being nice. Neither does America. The era of tolerance must cease and the time for hate must come.


  50. 50 | July 9, 2010 12:08 pm

    @ m:

    Another avatar!

    :lol:


  51. taxfreekiller
    51 | July 9, 2010 12:09 pm

    Evil is as Evil does.


  52. Lily
    52 | July 9, 2010 12:10 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    These scum have less moral integrity than a crocodile.
    This is what islam does to human beings. The hate makes them dead inside, unable to feel natural human emotions, love, kindness, thankfulness, joy, appreciation.
    Even a crocodile tries to nurture it’s young more than a muzz mother.
    These muzz animals with murder in their hearts contribute nothing of value to society.
    They are not human.

    They were born into this evil ideology…..they know no different they believe the lies and then their heart and souls are filled with evil and madness. The extra evil ones are the ones that haven’t been born into yet embrace it. Like white on rice.


  53. snork
    53 | July 9, 2010 12:10 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ m:

    Another avatar!

    Just tryin’ on another pair of shoes…


  54. lostinmissouri
    54 | July 9, 2010 12:12 pm

    Looking right into the face of iSlam…*spit*

    This world will be a better place when iSlam is only found in history books.


  55. Lily
    55 | July 9, 2010 12:13 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Why you mean Stan, don’t you?!

    Of course. :)


  56. 56 | July 9, 2010 12:13 pm

    .@ taxfreekiller:

    OT- The Obama-Pelosi Lame Duck Strategy: Union ‘card-check,’ cap and trade, and so much more

    Democratic House members are so worried about the fall elections they’re leaving Washington on July 30, a full week earlier than normal—and they won’t return until mid-September. Members gulped when National Journal’s Charlie Cook, the Beltway’s leading political handicapper, predicted last month “the House is gone,” meaning a GOP takeover. He thinks Democrats will hold the Senate, but with a significantly reduced majority.

    The rush to recess gives Democrats little time to pass any major laws. That’s why there have been signs in recent weeks that party leaders are planning an ambitious, lame-duck session to muscle through bills in December they don’t want to defend before November. Retiring or defeated members of Congress would then be able to vote for sweeping legislation without any fear of voter retaliation.


  57. vapig
    57 | July 9, 2010 12:14 pm

    midwestgak wrote:

    vapig wrote:
    wow! Two avatars in one morning!
    What does that mean? Asking humbly.

    M had a different avatar earlier this morning. Just commented on the change, that’s all.


  58. 58 | July 9, 2010 12:14 pm

    US Justice Department to review BART shooting

    The U.S. Department of Justice will conduct an independent review of the Johannes Mehserle case in order to determine whether or not the shooting merits federal prosecution, according the department.

    “The Justice Department has been closely monitoring the state’s investigation and prosecution,” the department said in a statement.

    “The Civil Rights Division, the U.S. Attorney’s Office, and the FBI have an open investigation into the fatal shooting and, at the conclusion of the state’s prosecution, will conduct an independent review of the facts and circumstances to determine whether the evidence warrants federal prosecution.”


  59. Xeon
    59 | July 9, 2010 12:14 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Please, don’t apologize, it was from the heart, and it was correct.


  60. vapig
    60 | July 9, 2010 12:16 pm

    m wrote:

    @ vapig:
    Yeah, I haven’t decided what fits my mood at the moment… I really need Iron Fist’s old KABOOM avatar after reading this post.

    I hear ya! I sometimes wonder why I haven’t burst a blood vessel from reading some of these articles!


  61. 61 | July 9, 2010 12:18 pm

    @ Xeon:

    I’m just apologizing for writing it on the blog. I’m not into genocide, but when it comes to Lebanese Shia they deserve it.


  62. Lily
    62 | July 9, 2010 12:19 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:
    A baby that will come back and try to kill them. Israel wins no brownie points being nice. Neither does America. The era of tolerance must cease and the time for hate must come.

    I understand you and do not disagree with you. But sometimes in this world fighting fire with fire just creates a huge fire..fighting fire with water stops it. I think the Israeli’s are a just people. I don’t wish them to become the hatefilled evil enemies that are against them.
    Oh fight them yes.
    But not become evil to fight evil is all I was trying to get across.


  63. midwestgak
    63 | July 9, 2010 12:19 pm

    vapig wrote:

    M had a different avatar earlier this morning. Just commented on the change, that’s all.

    Okay, thanks. ‘Cause sometimes, at least on my screen, an avatar is merely a question mark.


  64. Xeon
    64 | July 9, 2010 12:19 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I understand, but we all know you, and we knew what you meant.


  65. Bumr50
    65 | July 9, 2010 12:20 pm

    @ snork:

    You didn’t get ‘em from the Oakland, CA Foot Locker did ya?


  66. taxfreekiller
    66 | July 9, 2010 12:20 pm

    Justice sometimes is slow, but justice does come.

    Rides a huge black horse, has red hot angry eyes, the sound of the huge hooves, clop, clop, clop, clop, , now the sound these Democrat traitors do hear, and it is louder, nearer, CLOP, CLOP,CLOP,,,,,@ Rodan:


  67. Bob in Breckenridge
    67 | July 9, 2010 12:20 pm

    “It is a regular thing,” she smiles at him. “Life is not precious. Life is precious, but not for us. For us, life is nothing, not worth a thing. That is why we have so many suicide bombers. They are not afraid of death. None of us, not even the children, are afraid of death. It is natural for us.

    This is why there is and never will be any hope of a peaceful middle east or world as long as there savages live. Life is not precious? They want death? I say lets give these savages what they all want, and the sooner the better.


  68. vapig
    68 | July 9, 2010 12:20 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ snork:
    Morning all!
    Chivalrous is great! You mean kill them on horseback with sabers right?
    Ohhhh. That would be cavalrous.

    Yeah -- the chivalry guys used broadswords!


  69. 69 | July 9, 2010 12:20 pm

    @ m:

    Here is a link to similar pics. The one I used was from the Soviet “Czarr Bomb” test, a 50 mT thermonuclear blast (and the largest bomb ever set off). Fun stuff…


  70. vapig
    70 | July 9, 2010 12:22 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:
    A baby that will come back and try to kill them. Israel wins no brownie points being nice. Neither does America. The era of tolerance must cease and the time for hate must come.

    Nah -- you don’t need to hate people to kill them. Just a strong need to protect God’s people! God’s people are no good to Him dead!


  71. Bumr50
    71 | July 9, 2010 12:22 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    They found him guilty already!

    So now they want a murder conviction after this thug f*cked with an obviously armed public servant.

    Our DOJ is now the sharp end of the reparations spear.


  72. chickadee
    72 | July 9, 2010 12:23 pm

    lostinmissouri wrote:

    Looking right into the face of iSlam…*spit*

    This world will be a better place when iSlam is only found in history books.

    So true.


  73. taxfreekiller
    73 | July 9, 2010 12:25 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    back in the day, we had this “device” called it the “night-n-gail device”, had a way to remote trigger it, that and on one of our hurry up dust off’s , something would on the accident fall off the last chopper out,,, the “important red box left behind”,,,, had a way that when the others opened it, last thing they did,,,,


  74. 74 | July 9, 2010 12:26 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:

    When we have total power one day, I hope the next Republican president investigates the Tranzi Progressive and Islamic penetration of our nation. These people and organizations should be put on trial.

    I call for TFK to be the prsecutor!


  75. Lily
    75 | July 9, 2010 12:27 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    This is why there is and never will be any hope of a peaceful middle east or world as long as there savages live. Life is not precious? They want death? I say lets give these savages what they all want, and the sooner the better.

    This is the problem with our government and some of our military.
    You have to understand the enemy to destroy them. And the leftist’s
    just all feel sorry for them. They cannot comprehend their mindset.
    It will never change. We are infidels. We are the great satan and Israel the little satan.
    To defeat ones enemy study them and understand their way of thinking it is not the way we think…thank God.


  76. Lily
    76 | July 9, 2010 12:31 pm

    vapig wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ Lily:
    A baby that will come back and try to kill them. Israel wins no brownie points being nice. Neither does America. The era of tolerance must cease and the time for hate must come.
    Nah – you don’t need to hate people to kill them. Just a strong need to protect God’s people! God’s people are no good to Him dead!

    That is what I was trying to get across. Poorly apparently. :)


  77. midwestgak
    77 | July 9, 2010 12:32 pm

    Lily wrote:

    But not become evil to fight evil is all I was trying to get across.

    After capturing 1,000 Hessians in the Battle of Trenton, General Washington ordered that enemy prisoners be treated with the same rights for which our young nation was fighting. In an order covering prisoners taken in the Battle of Princeton, Washington wrote: “Treat them with humanity, and let them have no reason to Complain of our Copying the brutal example of the British Army in their treatment of our unfortunate brethren…. Provide everything necessary for them on the road.”


  78. Lily
    78 | July 9, 2010 12:34 pm

    @ midwestgak:

    Exactly. Only good triumphs evil. Not evil vs. evil.


  79. 79 | July 9, 2010 12:37 pm

    @ Lily:

    You give the Leftists too much credit for good motives. They don’t have good motives. They are driven by evil. They see the Muzz as allies in subjugating the rest of us, after which they figure they can deal with the Muzz. It is a very Stalinesque mindset: use and discard whatever tools (people) come to hand. They think they are using the Muzz, but they don’t realize the Muzz feel the same way about them. If only they’d take out each other before they deal with us. Unfortunately, they both have us in their sights as the first target.


  80. 80 | July 9, 2010 12:40 pm

    New DOD thread!

    The LGF Demographic


  81. Eliana
    81 | July 9, 2010 12:41 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    They see the Muzz as allies in subjugating the rest of us, after which they figure they can deal with the Muzz. It is a very Stalinesque mindset: use and discard whatever tools (people) come to hand. They think they are using the Muzz, but they don’t realize the Muzz feel the same way about them.

    This is so true!

    Reminds me of the British moonbat working in Gaza who was so thrilled by the help she was giving to the Gazans that she invited her parents to see it first hand.

    Hamas kidnapped all three of them after the parents arrived.

    They were held for weeks or months until they were finally released (at which point they fled directly into the arms of the Israelis at a border crossing).

    They still hate Israel, though.


  82. 82 | July 9, 2010 12:41 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    The Progressives support the Islamic-Imperialists and view them as allies.


  83. chickadee
    83 | July 9, 2010 12:41 pm

    midwestgak wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    But not become evil to fight evil is all I was trying to get across.

    After capturing 1,000 Hessians in the Battle of Trenton, General Washington ordered that enemy prisoners be treated with the same rights for which our young nation was fighting. In an order covering prisoners taken in the Battle of Princeton, Washington wrote: “Treat them with humanity, and let them have no reason to Complain of our Copying the brutal example of the British Army in their treatment of our unfortunate brethren…. Provide everything necessary for them on the road.”

    Washington treated the Hessian and Scottish mercenaries so humanly and fairly, that after the War many settled in this county and became good productive citizens.


  84. Lily
    84 | July 9, 2010 12:47 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    I agree I did not come across about the evil mindset of the leftist’s.
    I just put one point of their mindset out there. And no I don’t think they are innocent or have any good motives.
    Thankyou for filling in my gaps in my post.
    (My mind is 1/2 thinking about the damn physcial therapy I have to go through today…..torture is what is in store fir my afternoon) :)
    But yes thanks for filling in what I left out.


  85. RIX
    85 | July 9, 2010 12:48 pm

    I just read the above post. It is like some kind of bizzare SNL skit written by Satan.
    How in the world can we have an accomodation with that kind of mind
    set?


  86. Lily
    86 | July 9, 2010 12:51 pm

    @ chickadee:

    Washington treated the Hessian and Scottish mercenaries so humanly and fairly, that after the War many settled in this county and became good productive citizens.

    Becoming evil to fight evil…doesn’t work.
    That baby may one day come to mind that the Israeli’s saved his life.


  87. Bumr50
    87 | July 9, 2010 12:51 pm

    OT- So did the San Francisco BART verdict protesters, rioters, and anarchist WALK to their respective riots?

    Inquiring minds want to know.

    Cause’ if anyone has a video of busfulls of them, it would be pretty funny.


  88. Lily
    88 | July 9, 2010 12:52 pm

    RIX wrote:

    I just read the above post. It is like some kind of bizzare SNL skit written by Satan.
    How in the world can we have an accomodation with that kind of mind
    set?

    That is the $60,000 dollar question.


  89. snork
    89 | July 9, 2010 12:54 pm

    Eliana wrote:

    They still hate Israel, though.

    Some people hate their parents, too. Same psych.


  90. Nevergiveup
    90 | July 9, 2010 12:55 pm

    Par for the course


  91. 91 | July 9, 2010 12:57 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    When do you go to South Carolina?


  92. RIX
    92 | July 9, 2010 12:58 pm

    Lily
    88 | July 9, 2010 12:52
    That is the $60,000 dollar question

    It makes “Celebrate Diversity ” sound silly.
    Tolerance is great, but evil should not be tolerated.


  93. Nevergiveup
    93 | July 9, 2010 12:58 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    When do you go to South Carolina?

    6:00 AM Sunday morning


  94. Lily
    94 | July 9, 2010 1:01 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    New DOD thread!
    The LGF Demographic

    oh yes we are jealous because of his ‘grat matter’. If had any gray matter he would not be broke.
    I don’t claim to be super smart…but when the going gets tuff I figure out ways to make (legal) money.


  95. Bumr50
    95 | July 9, 2010 1:02 pm

    Muslims use fear as their only ally, both within their organizations and projected onto outsiders through terrorism.

    Anger and hate are the natural pathos after fear is instilled.

    Hate is easy. And can be useful, but only when tempered with reason.

    It is not unreasonable to kill militant Islamists, but it is to unnecessarily inflict the spiteful suffering that they inflict on non-believers.

    It is also extremely unreasonable to ignore their calls for the destruction of Western civilization to be replaced with Islam. To allow them to continue their efforts only serves to allow their fear tactics to force us to act irrationally.

    It is not un-’adult’ of us to take control of the situation by whatever means necessary. They are forcing a parent-child relationship on us with them (the children) in control and we must respond as strictly and rashly as possible until the situation is under control.

    Where folks like 0 continue to strive for an adult relationship between our two cultures is where we face the greatest danger. The Islamists are intentionally playing into this outreach and are using it to sinisterly overtake all facets of our culture. An adult relationship will not be possible until either their casualties become so great that they are forced to take a hard look at their ideology, or it is wiped out completely.

    While I would prefer to kill as few people as possible in the interest of peace, it may not be an option in the War for Western Civilization.


  96. snork
    96 | July 9, 2010 1:03 pm

    Apropos to the last thread:

    CAUGHT ON TAPE—- Racist NAACP Leader Says “Kenneth Gladney Not Black Enough” to Protect – He’s an “Uncle Tom”

    On May 5th, 2010 The Missouri NAACP hosted a press conference and rally on behalf of Perry Molens and Elston McCowan, demanding the county prosecutor drop assault charges stemming from an attack outside Russ Carnahan’s townhall in South St. Louis County on Health Care last August. Molens and McCowan were arrested after the staged Carnahan event in August after they beat, kicked and stomped on black vendor Kenneth Gladney. The two Russ Carnahan supporters and SEIU members also called Kenneth the n-word as they bashed him into the cement.

    The NAACP is supporting dropping charges against white thugs who beat up a black man. WTF? I want a new planet.


  97. 97 | July 9, 2010 1:03 pm

    @ RIX:

    Tolerate Intolerance! It is interesting that the Left will tolerate the anti-Semitism of the Mohammedans and the anti-White of the Black Panthers, but treat the intolerance of these groups as a greater sin than beastiality. That says something rather distressing about their priorities. It isn’t that they are anti-hate, they’ve just chosen sides.


  98. vapig
    98 | July 9, 2010 1:05 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    OT- So did the San Francisco BART verdict protesters, rioters, and anarchist WALK to their respective riots?
    Inquiring minds want to know.
    Cause’ if anyone has a video of busfulls of them, it would be pretty funny.

    BART is the subway system (trains) there. I wouldn’t be surprised to see that they trashed the trains though.


  99. 99 | July 9, 2010 1:06 pm

    @ vapig:

    CarolinaGirl was worried that they might try to shut them down. That doesn’t appear to have happened.


  100. Lily
    100 | July 9, 2010 1:07 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Lily
    88 | July 9, 2010 12:52
    That is the $60,000 dollar question
    It makes “Celebrate Diversity ” sound silly.
    Tolerance is great, but evil should not be tolerated.

    Sorry I shall re-word it.

    That is the main question to the problem.

    I wasn’t trying to be funny.


  101. Eliana
    101 | July 9, 2010 1:09 pm

    Wow!

    The Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs has released a very significant policy statement about Israel’s security needs for a viable peace. It’s written by famous IDF generals including Moshe Ya’alon who is very high in Bibi’s government. It’s definitely something worth reading.

    I will write a thread about this after the Sabbath, but I would like to give you the link to the page where the study has been posted in PDF format (in individual pieces and in one document that has the full study).

    PLEASE LOOK AT THE PHOTO on the upper left side of this website. It is a picture of Tel Aviv as seen from a Jewish community in the so-called “West Bank.” This ONE PHOTO demonstrates in this one view how the settlements have protected Israel all these years and why it’s absolutely impossible to give them up.

    Most of the settlers live on the high ground overlooking Israel’s largest population centers and they seem like almost a stone’s throw away from places like Tel Aviv.

    This is an astonishing picture!!

    Israel’s Critical Security Needs for a Viable Peace


  102. Eliana
    102 | July 9, 2010 1:13 pm

    @ Eliana:

    Correction: Actually, the community in the foreground of the photo is an Arab village in the “West Bank.”

    The Jewish communities are every bit as close to Tel Aviv as this village.

    This still shows why the settlements are so important. The settlements take up much/most of the space that lies on the high ground overlooking Israel’s coastal plain.


  103. Bumr50
    103 | July 9, 2010 1:13 pm

    @ vapig:

    We have PAT here and I’ve always found it interesting that the people who depend on the (broke) transit system the most are the ones that vandalize it the most.

    It sort of goes my muzzie post on a smaller and less drastic scale. We allow certain segments of our society (protected classes) to continue to behave in a perpetual state of being 14-year old as*holes because we’re AFRAID to punish them.

    Not to mention the parental role that we play by giving them whatever they need to “feel good” without ever requiring them to take on an adult role.

    We (at least I personally feel) bear some responsiblity in allowing our government on all levels to get this way. And I’m VERY afraid that we may not be able to take it back without some seriously painful struggle.


  104. m
    104 | July 9, 2010 1:13 pm

    @ snork:

    Gosh, that post-racial America the zero brought us is just f’in lovely.


  105. Eliana
    105 | July 9, 2010 1:14 pm

    Israel is a small country with the enemy living awfully darn close to Israel’s biggest cities.


  106. Nevergiveup
    106 | July 9, 2010 1:15 pm

    Eliana wrote:

    Israel is a small country with the enemy living awfully darn close to Israel’s biggest cities.

    And in them


  107. Bumr50
    107 | July 9, 2010 1:15 pm

    @ snork:

    I was just thinking how interesting that all of this race (at least big-ticket stuff) tension is happening at the height of the summer heat here in the States.

    It’s just one hit after another. It’s absolutely telling that the DOJ steps in this San Fran case just when they’re under assault over the NBP dismissal.

    Don’t think this isn’t proactive posturing on their part.


  108. 108 | July 9, 2010 1:16 pm

    @ snork:

    Unreal!

    It’s like the whites who become Muslim, are considered black. This is twisted logic.


  109. Eliana
    109 | July 9, 2010 1:16 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Yeah. :-(


  110. buzzsawmonkey
    110 | July 9, 2010 1:16 pm

    m wrote:

    Gosh, that post-racial America the zero brought us is just f’in lovely.

    The Left, famously, defines “racism” in group terms; you are either part of the group with “the power,” or you are not. According to this worldview, to be white is to be racist, whether one is a multibillionaire or a hillbilly in the backwoods, not because of what one has done or how one acts, but because one is part of the race that has “hegemony.” To be black is to be forever exempt from an accusation of racism, whether, again, one is a multibillionaire or a hillbilly in the backwoods, because—regardless of what one does or how one acts, one is part of the race that does not have “hegemony.”

    This determination of “racism” by skin color is, of course, an entirely racist construct, because it accuses based on appearance rather than action. Since the Civil Rights Movement was co-opted by Marxists, Islamists and separatists, it has provided cover and nurture for racist attitudes, and any number racist “leaders,” to flourish in the black community immune from criticism.

    These racists are revanchists, i.e., they are motivated by a desire for “payback”—for revenge. The New Black Panther Party is a revanchist group; the attorneys who dropped a valid prosecution against the NBPP are also revanchists for taking a position that eschewed impartial administration of justice in favor of supporting a revanchist movement.

    The term “revanchism” was common in the late 19th/early 20th century, but has been out of use for some decades. It is time it was revived. Originally, it often referred to a vengeful desire to recover territory, but it was not applied exclusively to that—and words do evolve in meaning over time, as today’s use of “liberal” to mean “hard leftist” has shown.

    Certainly the territorial application of “revanchist” would apply to Muslims who consider Spain to be al-Andalus, and seek to recover it, and to “Palestinians” who are intent on acquiring and destroying the state of Israel. It also applies to those who espouse the old Nation of Islam demand for several states to be set aside as a black enclave; to a mayor who, say, decrees the mixed-race town he was elected to serve a “chocolate city”; to those who at this late date demand that the government make good on the 19th-century campaign promise of “40 acres and a mule”; or even those who, never having been slaves themselves, demand “reparations” for slavery.

    Revanchist accusations of racism should be recognized for what they are, and dismissed.


  111. 111 | July 9, 2010 1:17 pm

    @ Eliana:

    That’s why israel needs to stop being nice and become ruthless. That is all the Muzzies respect.


  112. 112 | July 9, 2010 1:17 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Check the previous thread!


  113. Jorline
    113 | July 9, 2010 1:23 pm

    @ midwestgak:

    Hey sis, how are you?


  114. buzzsawmonkey
    114 | July 9, 2010 1:25 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Yes, perhaps my #110 would have gone there better, but the action is over here now.


  115. 115 | July 9, 2010 1:25 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ Speranza:
    Exactly, I really don’t get the Israeli mindset of being nice to people that hate you.
    It was a baby. It really proves that the Israeli’s have love and charity in there heart. Yet most the world accuses them of war crimes.
    Israel is a just nation. And that is what matters here.

    Somebody ought to take that baby away from his not-so-loving home and raise him among human beings. And give him a different name, while they’re at it.


  116. Nevergiveup
    116 | July 9, 2010 1:26 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    Yes, perhaps my #110 would have gone there better, but the action is over here now.

    Really? Who’s puttin out?


  117. vapig
    117 | July 9, 2010 1:28 pm

    @ snork:

    God is working on it!

    :mrgreen:


  118. 118 | July 9, 2010 1:28 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    midwestgak wrote:
    Lily wrote:
    But not become evil to fight evil is all I was trying to get across.
    After capturing 1,000 Hessians in the Battle of Trenton, General Washington ordered that enemy prisoners be treated with the same rights for which our young nation was fighting. In an order covering prisoners taken in the Battle of Princeton, Washington wrote: “Treat them with humanity, and let them have no reason to Complain of our Copying the brutal example of the British Army in their treatment of our unfortunate brethren…. Provide everything necessary for them on the road.”
    Washington treated the Hessian and Scottish mercenaries so humanly and fairly, that after the War many settled in this county and became good productive citizens.

    There’s a difference. The Hessians and Scotsmen had been raised as Christians.


  119. Bumr50
    119 | July 9, 2010 1:29 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Not me!


  120. vapig
    120 | July 9, 2010 1:31 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ vapig:
    CarolinaGirl was worried that they might try to shut them down. That doesn’t appear to have happened.

    It’s not over yet. They haven’t properly seethed yet.

    Though it probably helps that the cop admitted his mistake (how do you mistake a gun for a taser?) and he was convicted -- not exonerated like the Rodney King cops.


  121. LGoPs
    121 | July 9, 2010 1:32 pm

    I’ve often told the story of my experiences in Saudi Arabia and how that led me to close my mind toward Islam as a legitimate religion but the story of this mother adds another facet to this rejection. Any belief system that can be twisted or manipulated to embrace this type of hatred is, quite simply, inhuman. There are no other words to describe it. There is not an injustice or grievance that I can imagine that would justify a mother wishing for her child to become a suicide murderer. None. Period.


  122. vapig
    122 | July 9, 2010 1:33 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ vapig:
    We have PAT here and I’ve always found it interesting that the people who depend on the (broke) transit system the most are the ones that vandalize it the most.
    It sort of goes my muzzie post on a smaller and less drastic scale. We allow certain segments of our society (protected classes) to continue to behave in a perpetual state of being 14-year old as*holes because we’re AFRAID to punish them.
    Not to mention the parental role that we play by giving them whatever they need to “feel good” without ever requiring them to take on an adult role.
    We (at least I personally feel) bear some responsiblity in allowing our government on all levels to get this way. And I’m VERY afraid that we may not be able to take it back without some seriously painful struggle.

    I agree with you! Have you also noticed that the gov giving homes to people doesn’t give them that sense of pride in having earned it -- so they just trash the places?


  123. Bumr50
    123 | July 9, 2010 1:34 pm

    OT- Regarding The Obama-Pelosi Lame Duck Strategy

    We need to BUY TIME.

    A while back I suggested that if any Repubs had connections to schedule some massive road construction in and around the Capitol for this very time.

    I’d also suggest flushing M-80′s down the toilets and pulling fire alarms.

    Anything to keep issues off the table from Nov. to Jan., SERIOUSLY, or the damage may be too great to be undone.


  124. snork
    124 | July 9, 2010 1:34 pm

    @ Eliana:
    I’ve been to Israel, and have driven the new Highway 6 toll road right along the border with the WB, so I appreciate how close things are, but that picture was pretty obviously shot with a telephoto from a few miles back from that WB village. It’s a little deceptive, whether intentional or not. There’s a valley in there with Ben Gurion airport among other things that doesn’t appear to be room for in that picture.

    What that picture does show is what an oasis Tel Aviv is. It’s a new, modern city, and it makes everything else look like a dump. That, I’m sure, irritates the WB inhabitants.


  125. midwestgak
    125 | July 9, 2010 1:35 pm

    Jorline wrote:

    Hey sis, how are you?

    Hiha!! Dear brother. Doing well. Glad to see you!!!!! How’s business?


  126. 126 | July 9, 2010 1:35 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    No it’s cool you posted that here. I just wondered if you saw that thread and now I realized you did.

    These guys are crazy.


  127. Eliana
    127 | July 9, 2010 1:39 pm

    @ snork:

    Yes, I agree -- the photo does seem to be missing some large population centers and other things in between the Arab village and Tel Aviv.

    It is still a stunning photo, of course, as you’ve indicated.

    It reminds me of the first time I saw the hills of Samaria from Netanya as I was leaving the city during the day once. The Jewish communities on the closest hill of Samaria seemed so close that you could almost reach out and touch them.

    I believe that this is Israel’s narrowest point near the “West Bank.”


  128. snork
    128 | July 9, 2010 1:41 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Revanchist accusations of racism should be recognized for what they are, and dismissed.

    However, ignore them at your peril. These guys want to turn the US into Zimbabwe. Literally. We’re not going to go there, but I could see millions dead if this got out of hand.


  129. Jorline
    129 | July 9, 2010 1:42 pm

    @ midwestgak:

    Hanging by fingernails. Looking to go back to work for a corporation again…really bums me out. Right now I’m providing a job for my employees…nothing left for me.

    How is it going for you?


  130. Nevergiveup
    130 | July 9, 2010 1:42 pm

    snork wrote:

    @ Eliana:
    I’ve been to Israel, and have driven the new Highway 6 toll road right along the border with the WB, so I appreciate how close things are, but that picture was pretty obviously shot with a telephoto from a few miles back from that WB village. It’s a little deceptive, whether intentional or not. There’s a valley in there with Ben Gurion airport among other things that doesn’t appear to be room for in that picture.

    What that picture does show is what an oasis Tel Aviv is. It’s a new, modern city, and it makes everything else look like a dump. That, I’m sure, irritates the WB inhabitants.

    The picture may well be from a telephoto lens, but the foot hills of the West Bank put Ben Gurion Airport well in range of rocket attack and depending on the route a plane takes landing or taking off also of the more sophisticated surface to air missiles


  131. snork
    131 | July 9, 2010 1:43 pm

    @ Eliana:
    And as I said, driving Highway 6, you see a villiage a few hundred meters away, with minarets, and you realize that you’re almost in the WB, and this “apartheid wall” is nothing of the sort.


  132. 132 | July 9, 2010 1:43 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    That is their plan. Anything that they force through in a lame duck session cannot be repealed for at least two years. We have to not only take the House and Senate (we aren’t likely to get the Senate this go round), but get rid of Obama’s veto pen. As long as Obama can veto any repeal, there isn’t a whole lot the Republican congress can do. They can try and defund as much as possible, but how do you defund a moritorium on oil exploration or shiny new VAT tax? Collectively, America fucked up big time in 2008. Obama is unqualified to lead, and the Donks aren’t fit to follow. Now we are hosed.


  133. 133 | July 9, 2010 1:43 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    These scum have less moral integrity than a crocodile.
    This is what islam does to human beings. The hate makes them dead inside, unable to feel natural human emotions, love, kindness, thankfulness, joy, appreciation.
    Even a crocodile tries to nurture it’s young more than a muzz mother.
    These muzz animals with murder in their hearts contribute nothing of value to society.
    They are not human.

    They are africanized bees. Red ants.Fleas. Flies.kudzo. thorns.All those things you don’t need around you.


  134. snork
    134 | July 9, 2010 1:44 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    The picture may well be from a telephoto lens, but the foot hills of the West Bank put Ben Gurion Airport well in range of rocket attack and depending on the route a plane takes landing or taking off also of the more sophisticated surface to air missiles

    Indeed. They land from the west, and take off into the west. Must be the only airport in the world that works like that.


  135. 135 | July 9, 2010 1:44 pm

    @ Grimcargo:
    I forgot to mention Obama and his church.


  136. snork
    136 | July 9, 2010 1:45 pm

    Grimcargo wrote:

    They are africanized bees.

    Chuck would have bid you adieu in a millisecond for that.


  137. Eliana
    137 | July 9, 2010 1:45 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Quite right.

    Northern Tel Aviv has been mentioned many times in Israel as the place most likely within Tel Aviv to get rocket fire from Samaria if Israel withdraws from this area (G-d forbid).


  138. Eliana
    138 | July 9, 2010 1:47 pm

    @ snork:

    They land from the west, and take off into the west. Must be the only airport in the world that works like that.

    Yeah -- another aspect of Israel’s uniqueness.


  139. mjazz
    139 | July 9, 2010 1:48 pm

    @ snork:
    That Armstrong guy had some strange beliefs.


  140. 140 | July 9, 2010 1:48 pm

    snork wrote:

    Grimcargo wrote:
    They are africanized bees.
    Chuck would have bid you adieu in a millisecond for that.

    Thanks I knew I was leaving something out. Add LGF and big fatass donut hole to the list I had.


  141. midwestgak
    141 | July 9, 2010 1:50 pm

    Jorline wrote:

    How is it going for you?

    Could be better. A life changing decision will have to be made soon. Don’t want to get into here. I’ll be alright, though.


  142. Jorline
    142 | July 9, 2010 1:53 pm

    @ midwestgak:

    Let me know…send me an email.

    {gak}


  143. Bumr50
    143 | July 9, 2010 1:54 pm

    F*ck the Feds.

    That’s my twocents.

    This list is disgusting.

    Most recently, Louisiana officials were stunned that the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers rejected their proposal for rock barriers to keep oil out of Barataria Bay, an estuary popular with local fish and wildlife.
    --
    After researching its collective navel for five weeks, EPA finally vetoed the sand barriers, presumably because sand ruins a shrimp’s day far more than does petroleum
    --
    In mid-June, the Interior Department and the Corps of Engineers blocked yet another sand-berm proposal, this time because the sand allegedly would threaten birds on Louisiana’s Chandeleur Islands.
    --
    As Dutch consul general Geert Veeser told Radio Netherlands, Team Obama’s reply was: “Thanks for your help, but at the moment we can manage ourselves. And that was it.”
    --
    the EPA barred some vessels that suck in contaminated seawater, remove most of the oil, and then squirt water overboard, because that treated water remains slightly oily,
    --
    The Coast Guard shuttered a dozen barges for much of June 18. They had been successfully sucking oil from the Gulf’s surface, but the Coast Guard said it wanted to make sure that these vessels carried enough life vests and fire extinguishers.
    --
    Every 20 minutes of work must yield to 40 minutes of rest. Every 40 minutes of cumulative labor, in turn, triggers an unbroken hour off duty.
    --


  144. Bob in Breckenridge
    144 | July 9, 2010 1:56 pm

    @ Bumr50:
    I have a thread pending about that.


  145. Bob in Breckenridge
    145 | July 9, 2010 1:57 pm

    Grimcargo wrote:

    They are africanized bees. Red ants.Fleas. Flies.kudzo. thorns.All those things you don’t need around you.

    Racist!


  146. Bumr50
    146 | July 9, 2010 1:58 pm

    BBL. Gotta run to the store and get back for the Megyn Kelly NBPP interview @2:30.


  147. Bob in Breckenridge
    147 | July 9, 2010 2:02 pm

    O/T- Lt. Colonel Alan West will be on Hannity’s radio show at 3:30PM EDT


  148. LGoPs
    148 | July 9, 2010 2:02 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    This is the same kind of mindless buearacracy that would prevent people from fleeing a burning building because the fire escape ladder hadn’t been certified as safe for use by their inspectors.
    The mind reels over such idiocy.


  149. mjazz
    149 | July 9, 2010 2:02 pm

    @ 1389AD:
    If anyone in America said they wanted to strap a bomb on their kid and blow people up, their kids would be taken away from them.
    If they say that in Gaza, we send them money.


  150. buzzsawmonkey
    150 | July 9, 2010 2:02 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    F*ck the Feds.

    That’s my twocents.

    This list is disgusting.

    Everybody sing!


  151. snork
    151 | July 9, 2010 2:03 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    the EPA barred some vessels that suck in contaminated seawater, remove most of the oil, and then squirt water overboard, because that treated water remains slightly oily,

    I have no difficulty believing that.


  152. 152 | July 9, 2010 2:04 pm

    mjazz wrote:

    @ 1389AD:
    If anyone in America said they wanted to strap a bomb on their kid and blow people up, their kids would be taken away from them.
    If they say that in Gaza, we send them money.

    I say send them more bombs. Let evryone one of them have a bomb.


  153. 153 | July 9, 2010 2:07 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    This is just more evidence that the Fed’s goal is to maximize the damage from the spill. The directive to do that has to have come directly from the top. What we need is a courageous whistle-blower to come forward like has happened in the Black Panther case.


  154. citizen_q
    154 | July 9, 2010 2:08 pm

    Grimcargo wrote:

    mjazz wrote:
    @ 1389AD:
    If anyone in America said they wanted to strap a bomb on their kid and blow people up, their kids would be taken away from them.
    If they say that in Gaza, we send them money.
    I say send them more bombs. Let evryone one of them have a bomb.

    At the terminal end of its trajectory?


  155. midwestgak
    155 | July 9, 2010 2:13 pm

    Jorline wrote:

    Let me know…send me an email.

    Same one you used before?


  156. 156 | July 9, 2010 3:13 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    US Justice Department to review BART shooting
    The U.S. Department of Justice will conduct an independent review of the Johannes Mehserle case in order to determine whether or not the shooting merits federal prosecution, according the department.
    “The Justice Department has been closely monitoring the state’s investigation and prosecution,” the department said in a statement.
    “The Civil Rights Division, the U.S. Attorney’s Office, and the FBI have an open investigation into the fatal shooting and, at the conclusion of the state’s prosecution, will conduct an independent review of the facts and circumstances to determine whether the evidence warrants federal prosecution.”

    What no beer summit first.

    Obama’s babies never do nuffin.


  157. 157 | July 9, 2010 3:21 pm

    @ midwestgak:

    Well the Episcopalians and Lutherans have always been a bit ecumenical…doncha know

    Islam will push the world to embrace its inner caveman…..it has too…..instinct will kick in eventually


  158. 158 | July 9, 2010 3:29 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Lily
    88 | July 9, 2010 12:52
    That is the $60,000 dollar question
    It makes “Celebrate Diversity ” sound silly.
    Tolerance is great, but evil should not be tolerated.

    to be inclusive you are really just Celebrating Perversity and nothing more. It is possible to have diversity within a category.

    Some ideas and action are beyond the pale of decency, the left says so everyday when they attack America foe its virtues and accomplishments.

    Gramscian goulash, nothing more


  159. 159 | July 9, 2010 3:30 pm

    whoops dead thread


  160. Lily
    160 | July 9, 2010 5:11 pm

    @ Scott Madsen:

    Oh Scott were you replying to me?
    I didn’t mean that to be satire.
    I only meant it to be a question that is hard to answer.


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