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Why Israel’s enemies will always be the darlings of Western intellectuals

by Speranza ( 118 Comments › )
Filed under Fatah, Gaza, Hamas, Hezballah, Islamic Terrorism, Israel, Leftist-Islamic Alliance, Media, Palestinians at July 15th, 2010 - 7:00 pm

The media will always romanticize and sanitize the genocidal enemies of the Jewish state. Just as blithering idiots such as Patty Murray will vapidly claim that Osama Bin Laden  is popular because he builds day care centers (he does not by the way), they will always point out that Hamas provides social services to Gazans.The goal is to humanize the most murderous and totalitarian ideology since the defeat of National Socialism and the implosion of the U.S.S.R. in order to demonize Israel so that its physical annihilation will be heartily approved with no guilt attached.  We have seen CNN and BBC reporters admit that they have shed tears at the deaths of the hideous Yasser Arafat and Sheikh  Fadlallah and I am sure that Christiane Amanpour felt the same way only she is too smart to admit it – unlike  Helen Thomas and Octavia Nasr.

Hat tip – Hot Air

by Lee Smith

It’s nothing new for Western intellectuals to lavish attention and admiration on the resistance forces aligned against Israel, whether it’s Hamas or Hezbollah or even organizations like al-Qaida that are less interested in Israel than in killing and maiming Western civilians. Last week, when CNN’s former Middle East editor, Octavia Nasr, tweeted [1] that she respected the late militant cleric Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah, the cards were out on the table for all to see. But usually the pro-resistance vibe is more subtle, as when Nasr’s defenders demanded a more nuanced understanding from knee-jerk Americans who were shocked by Nasr’s support for a suicide-bomb-sanctioning man of faith. After all, Fadlallah was a relatively pro-feminist radical Islamist cleric—and if his talk about Israel was genocidal, well, that’s just part of the package when dealing with a complex place like the Middle East.

Media consumers in the United States are by now well aware that Hezbollah and Hamas provide “social services” for their communities. For the writers and television personalities who push such supposed palliatives on their audiences—“Yes, they do chant ‘kill the Jews!’ and they do act on their rhetoric, but they also educate poor kids in clean, well-lit schools (please ignore the slogans painted on the walls)”—respect for the resistance is a polite way of indicating one’s tolerance for murderous anti-Semitism. The issue is whether this attitude is in danger of seeping into the mainstream of the U.S. public. Poll numbers show that U.S. support for Israel is consistently high—in February Gallup found [2] that a near-record 63 percent of Americans were more sympathetic to the Jewish state than to the Palestinians. But ideas can change, and it’s intellectuals who often lead the way. Remember that Israel was a popular cause among the intellectual classes until the 1967 war. It is true that the American people and the bulk of their intellectual class are far apart on the subject of Israel, but all the massive and popular evil of the last century started among a small ideological elite.

A common explanation for the turning away of the intellectuals from Israel is that the Jewish state forfeited the world’s sympathy once it was no longer perceived as the underdog in its conflict with the Arabs. Israel’s sin, in this reading, is that it didn’t lose. However, this would suggest that intellectuals misunderstand a uniquely American concept: The underdog does not win the pity of the chorus because he is crushed by his tormentors; rather, he is the champion who perseveres because the stubborn stars that rule his nature will not permit him to choose otherwise. Perhaps his friends will abandon him, and maybe his family, too; neither his wife nor children signed on for such an arduous journey. If he intends to follow this hard path, he may well travel alone. Such is the stuff of big-ticket American heroism. It is odd that the American intelligentsia cannot recognize in Israel the likeness of our literary models, Melville’s Ahab, Fitzgerald’s Gatsby, Hawthorne’s Hester Prynne. Rather, the intelligentsia is more like Hester’s hypocritical neighbors. If Israel is portrayed as the Dirty Harry of nations, then its accusers are the tepid bureaucrats mistaking cowardice for compassion, who chide Clint Eastwood’s Callahan.

In reality, of course, Israel isn’t all that heroic. No one and nothing is. Israel’s men and women of honor do not accomplish Homeric deeds in south Lebanon or Gaza to the beat of martial songs, like the resistance; instead they ride the bus home on the weekend to see their parents, go out drinking with friends, and pick up the wrong guy or girl in a smoky bar with awful pop music. “Our warriors,” says one former tank driver, “are Jewish boys who are bossed around by their wives.” And yet during the war with Hezbollah four years ago, the country’s incompetent political and military leadership sent too many of those Jewish boys to their deaths, without sufficient training or a strategy for victory. It seems like almost every day there is news that another of Israel’s chief political leaders is under investigation for corruption charges, which is to say the system is rotten and the system works. To say that Israel is normal is to say that it is, like all democracies, mediocre.

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Some journalists shed tears [5] when Arafat died, others are smitten [6] by the beauty of Islamist militants: The “green eyes” of Hezbollah’s deputy Naim Qassem “are framed by thick, dark lashes and he has long elegant hands.” Saddam Hussein, we are told [7], did much to advance the rights of women. In Cairo I knew a former CNN producer whose first affair with an Arab intelligence officer was in Saddam’s Baghdad—a great city, she explained, if you didn’t mind the constant surveillance and widespread torture.

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118 Responses to “Why Israel’s enemies will always be the darlings of Western intellectuals”
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  1. 1 | July 15, 2010 7:03 pm

    The Left loves any islamic cause. Just like the Serbs where demonize, now it’s Israel’s turn.


  2. savages_girl
    2 | July 15, 2010 7:10 pm

    Hey guys, looking forward to tonight’s show.

    What are your topics?


  3. 3 | July 15, 2010 7:11 pm

    @ savages_girl:

    The BP Oil leak plugged
    Obama’s relation with Europe falling
    Muslim squat bathrooms in UK
    Overpaid salary in California.


  4. savages_girl
    4 | July 15, 2010 7:15 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Cool. Looking forward to the show!


  5. 5 | July 15, 2010 7:16 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    The Left loves any islamic cause. Just like the Serbs where demonize, now it’s Israel’s turn.

    Over a decade ago, we knew that was going to happen.


  6. MrPaulRevere
    6 | July 15, 2010 7:22 pm

    The fuzzy headed wine sipping pinko’s get all starry-eyed over an organization that provides “social services”. Foolish people.


  7. 7 | July 15, 2010 7:25 pm

    Leftist attorney gets 10 years in prison for aiding jihad terror mastermind

    A judge had resentenced a 70-year-old civil rights lawyer to 10 years in prison for letting a jailed Egyptian sheik communicate with his radical followers.

    Federal Judge John Koeltl sentenced Lynne Stewart in Manhattan after she pleaded with him to reimpose the two-year, four-month sentence he had originally given her in 2006. She said she has been diminished since her November imprisonment.

    An appeals court had ordered a new sentencing, saying the judge needed to consider whether she committed perjury. Koeltl says she did and he says she lacked remorse after her first sentencing….

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/attorney_who_helped_terrorist_gets_PYGIvliTgsFfDjH8DWkVTJ


  8. savages_girl
    8 | July 15, 2010 7:26 pm

    @ savage:
    Savage! :)


  9. 9 | July 15, 2010 7:28 pm

    savage wrote:

    Leftist attorney gets 10 years in prison for aiding jihad terror mastermind

    A judge had resentenced a 70-year-old civil rights lawyer to 10 years in prison for letting a jailed Egyptian sheik communicate with his radical followers.
    Federal Judge John Koeltl sentenced Lynne Stewart in Manhattan after she pleaded with him to reimpose the two-year, four-month sentence he had originally given her in 2006. She said she has been diminished since her November imprisonment.
    An appeals court had ordered a new sentencing, saying the judge needed to consider whether she committed perjury. Koeltl says she did and he says she lacked remorse after her first sentencing….
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/attorney_who_helped_terrorist_gets_PYGIvliTgsFfDjH8DWkVTJ

    Can you imagine the pain it must have caused that judge to do that to one of their own? All so they could maintain the fiction that not all judges are liberal progressive Marxist traitors…


  10. MrPaulRevere
    10 | July 15, 2010 7:29 pm

    From the comments at that article:

    CBDenver says:
    Jul 14, 2010 at 9:50 AM

    Eric J — I agree with you wholeheartedly. When the Israelis were searching for socialist nirvana via the kubbutzim, they were the darlings of the left. When they abandoned socialism, they became apostates of the socialist religion. Such apostasy is never forgiven by the left.

    Fascinating, I hadn’t thought of that angle.


  11. MrPaulRevere
    11 | July 15, 2010 7:30 pm

    @ savage:
    At her age it’s a death sentence, if she isn’t paroled. Rough justice I’d say.


  12. 12 | July 15, 2010 7:34 pm

    @ savages_girl:

    SG!


  13. 13 | July 15, 2010 7:35 pm

    MrPaulRevere wrote:

    @ savage:
    At her age it’s a death sentence, if she isn’t paroled. Rough justice I’d say.

    Rough justice would be if she were forced to be Kalid Sheik Mohammad’s cellmate…


  14. 14 | July 15, 2010 7:36 pm

    @ MrPaulRevere:

    I hope they toss daily torture sessions on that fucking Communist. Break her every damn day.


  15. 15 | July 15, 2010 7:37 pm

    savage wrote:

    @ MrPaulRevere:
    I hope they toss daily torture sessions on that fucking Communist. Break her every damn day.

    ROTFLMAO… See my comment #13


  16. 16 | July 15, 2010 7:39 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    I’d feel bad for KSM. hahha


  17. gulfloafer
    17 | July 15, 2010 7:39 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    savage wrote:
    Leftist attorney gets 10 years in prison for aiding jihad terror mastermind
    A judge had resentenced a 70-year-old civil rights lawyer to 10 years in prison for letting a jailed Egyptian sheik communicate with his radical followers.
    Federal Judge John Koeltl sentenced Lynne Stewart in Manhattan after she pleaded with him to reimpose the two-year, four-month sentence he had originally given her in 2006. She said she has been diminished since her November imprisonment.
    An appeals court had ordered a new sentencing, saying the judge needed to consider whether she committed perjury. Koeltl says she did and he says she lacked remorse after her first sentencing….
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/attorney_who_helped_terrorist_gets_PYGIvliTgsFfDjH8DWkVTJ
    Can you imagine the pain it must have caused that judge to do that to one of their own? All so they could maintain the fiction that not all judges are liberal progressive Marxist traitors…

    Ahh, poetic justice.


  18. 18 | July 15, 2010 7:41 pm

    savage wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I’d feel bad for KSM. hahha

    Heh heh heh Alien vs Predator…


  19. chickadee
    19 | July 15, 2010 7:44 pm

    savage wrote:

    Leftist attorney gets 10 years in prison for aiding jihad terror mastermind

    A judge had resentenced a 70-year-old civil rights lawyer to 10 years in prison for letting a jailed Egyptian sheik communicate with his radical followers.

    Federal Judge John Koeltl sentenced Lynne Stewart in Manhattan after she pleaded with him to reimpose the two-year, four-month sentence he had originally given her in 2006. She said she has been diminished since her November imprisonment.

    An appeals court had ordered a new sentencing, saying the judge needed to consider whether she committed perjury. Koeltl says she did and he says she lacked remorse after her first sentencing….

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/attorney_who_helped_terrorist_gets_PYGIvliTgsFfDjH8DWkVTJ

    What great news. Lynne Stewart is a hideous leftist who thought she could get away with aiding and abetting this jihadi monster and help him keep his terror campaign going. She thought it was a game and she didn’t have to play by the rules. I bet she has some remorse now. I hope she does the whole 10 years.
    btw that one eyed, hook fisted sheeek would cut that stupid ugly hag’s head off in a heart beat if they were in the oppressive world that she was helping him promote.


  20. 20 | July 15, 2010 7:45 pm

    Oh, and a re-posting of a comment from the last thread, cause it’s to precious not to re-post and I really am that childish and immature.

    | July 15, 2010 18:36

    Charles7/15/2010 9:32:46 am PDT
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    re: #371 MandyManners
    Why was No. 210 deleted?
    Because I’m tired of you posting “There is no fun in Islam.”
    We have several Muslim commenters here. Have you ever stopped to consider how that might make them feel?

    Hey Charles…. How does Mohammad’s dick taste????


  21. 21 | July 15, 2010 7:45 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    you know, Ripley could never drive that loader…


  22. MrPaulRevere
    22 | July 15, 2010 7:46 pm

    @ savage:
    I knew she was bad news, but I needed to re-read this:

    The verdict against Rahman left Stewart in tears — in large part due to the close personal relationship she had developed with her client. As a September 2002 piece in the New York Times Magazine showed, Stewart’s affection for Rahman was profound:

    “As Stewart got to know her new client, she came to see him as a fighter for national liberation on behalf of a people oppressed by dictatorship and American imperialism. She came to admire him personally too, for his honesty, his strength of character, his teasing humor. ‘I’ve made up my mind,’ the sheik would say. ‘I’m going to marry you, and that will solve everything.’ ‘And what do women get if they fight in jihad?’ [Stewart] would ask.’”

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=861


  23. MrPaulRevere
    23 | July 15, 2010 7:48 pm

    @ chickadee:

    She thought it was a game

    Precisely. She thought the rules didn’t apply to someone as smart as she is.


  24. Poteen
    24 | July 15, 2010 7:51 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    MrPaulRevere wrote:
    @ savage:
    At her age it’s a death sentence, if she isn’t paroled. Rough justice I’d say.

    Rough justice would be if she were forced to be Kalid Sheik Mohammad’s cellmate…

    That would work out well actually. They can shave each other’s backs.


  25. lobo91
    25 | July 15, 2010 7:52 pm

    Well, Carol’s here.

    Time for me to log off…


  26. Poteen
    26 | July 15, 2010 7:53 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Did you see this one?
    5

    Cato the Elder Thu, Jul 15, 2010 1:47:09pm replyquote

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    re: #24 CapeCoddah

    And as necessary to survival as air and water. Like it or not.

    Umm…not quite.

    A human can go for up to ten minutes without air, and maybe five days without water.

    I have gone for months at a time without using any oil.

    Can we get him to try?


  27. 27 | July 15, 2010 7:53 pm

    1389 – if you’re still here, i heard another company is hiring in Phoenix. it’s only a few people, but you might be just the one they need! it’s called Eeye Security. Here’s the article.


  28. 28 | July 15, 2010 7:54 pm

    @ Poteen:
    omg! the stupid runs deep over there. what the hell are they on? 10 minutes??? come on, someone with a sock run over there and say PROVE IT!


  29. snork
    29 | July 15, 2010 7:56 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Hey Charles…. How does Mohammad’s dick taste????

    Did that NYT guy ever say what kind of fruit that was with the water?


  30. Poteen
    30 | July 15, 2010 7:56 pm

    Hey Kirls. How’s AZ?


  31. buzzsawmonkey
    31 | July 15, 2010 7:57 pm

    Poteen wrote:

    I have gone for months at a time without using any oil.

    Particularly in soap form, I have no doubt.


  32. snork
    32 | July 15, 2010 7:57 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    @ Poteen:
    omg! the stupid runs deep over there. what the hell are they on? 10 minutes??? come on, someone with a sock run over there and say PROVE IT!

    With hypothermia, you can go longer, but I don’t think these guys are smart enough to know that.


  33. snork
    33 | July 15, 2010 7:58 pm

    Poteen wrote:

    I have gone for months at a time without using any oil.

    Because he rides the bus!


  34. savages_girl
    34 | July 15, 2010 7:58 pm

    @ savage:

    SG!

    I’m home now… Yea!


  35. snork
    35 | July 15, 2010 7:58 pm

    The short one.


  36. 36 | July 15, 2010 7:58 pm

    snork wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Hey Charles…. How does Mohammad’s dick taste????
    Did that NYT guy ever say what kind of fruit that was with the water?

    ROTFLMAO…. Charles does live here in the land of Fruits and Nuts, since we know Charles is Nuts, I guess we now know what kind of Fruit it is…


  37. Speranza
    37 | July 15, 2010 7:59 pm

    savages_girl wrote:

    Hey guys, looking forward to tonight’s show.
    What are your topics?

    Mel Gibson’s meltdowns. We will play all 4 tapes.


  38. savages_girl
    38 | July 15, 2010 8:01 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Well, Carol’s here.

    Time for me to log off…

    Good luck on date #2!


  39. Speranza
    39 | July 15, 2010 8:01 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Oh, and a re-posting of a comment from the last thread, cause it’s to precious not to re-post and I really am that childish and immature.
    | July 15, 2010 18:36
    Charles7/15/2010 9:32:46 am PDT
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    re: #371 MandyManners
    Why was No. 210 deleted?
    Because I’m tired of you posting “There is no fun in Islam.”
    We have several Muslim commenters here. Have you ever stopped to consider how that might make them feel?
    Hey Charles…. How does Mohammad’s dick taste????

    He just proved Mandys point!


  40. 40 | July 15, 2010 8:01 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    savages_girl wrote:
    Hey guys, looking forward to tonight’s show.
    What are your topics?

    Mel Gibson’s meltdowns. We will play all 4 tapes.

    In all seriousness, why bother? Is there anyone on earth that didnt already know he was both a racist and bat shit insane?


  41. Eliana
    41 | July 15, 2010 8:03 pm

    @ Kirly:

    1389 – if you’re still here, i heard another company is hiring in Phoenix. it’s only a few people, but you might be just the one they need! it’s called Eeye Security.

    Also, 1389, EMC is hiring in Raleigh, NC at Research Triangle Park!


  42. savages_girl
    42 | July 15, 2010 8:03 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Mel Gibson’s meltdowns. We will play all 4 tapes

    That guy’s A JERK!

    Don’t get me started…


  43. 43 | July 15, 2010 8:03 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    He just proved Mandys point!

    Yes he did, but the best part is how utterly and totally oblivious he is to what he just did.


  44. Speranza
    44 | July 15, 2010 8:03 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    In all seriousness, why bother? Is there anyone on earth that didnt already know he was both a racist and bat shit insane?

    I was just joking. He is a psychotic, suicidal nut job though – but then so is 1/2 of Little Green Balls.


  45. 45 | July 15, 2010 8:04 pm

    Poteen wrote:

    Hey Kirls. How’s AZ?

    hotter’n hell when the devil has a party!

    but it’s a dry heat! heheheheh :-)

    it’s fantastic here! hot and dry and the pool is cool and wet! whhhhheeeeeeeee!

    and you? how are you this fine day?

    you know what makes this day so fine? i think i’m finally cured of the dang flu! wooohooo!

    it’s the small things in life that make one happy. can ya tell???


  46. 46 | July 15, 2010 8:05 pm

    @ Eliana:
    we are awesome! look at us trying to help each other. as it should be. i will keep sharing info as i learn about it.


  47. savages_girl
    47 | July 15, 2010 8:05 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    In all seriousness, why bother? Is there anyone on earth that didnt already know he was both a racist and bat shit insane?

    You know, everybody has glommed on to the racist thing, but no one seems to be concerned about his ABUSIVENESS towards women, especially the girlfriend. And if he hit her hard enough to break her teeth, why isn’t that asshole in jail?

    That guy needs anger management courses… a lot of them…


  48. Speranza
    48 | July 15, 2010 8:05 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Yes he did, but the best part is how utterly and totally oblivious he is to what he just did.

    All of a sudden he is concerned about Muslims feelings. Isn’t he several years too late after God only knows how many “Religion of Peace” threads he used to put up? His totalitarian mind set lets him delete her post instead of debating with her.


  49. Eliana
    49 | July 15, 2010 8:05 pm

    actually, 1389, I think EMC is hiring all over the place!

    They have a LOT of new jobs on their job openings list.


  50. Poteen
    50 | July 15, 2010 8:06 pm

    snork wrote:

    Poteen wrote:
    I have gone for months at a time without using any oil.
    Because he rides the bus!

    How ‘Green’ of him.


  51. Speranza
    51 | July 15, 2010 8:06 pm

    savages_girl wrote:

    You know, everybody has glommed on to the racist thing, but no one seems to be concerned about his ABUSIVENESS towards women, especially the girlfriend. And if he hit her hard enough to break her teeth, why isn’t that asshole in jail?

    That guy needs anger management courses… a lot of them…

    That’s what got me, his pure hatred of a woman who is the mother of his 8 month old daughter. He is allegedly a man of God but his language would make a truck driver blush.


  52. Poteen
    52 | July 15, 2010 8:09 pm

    @ Kirly:
    Beautiful Orange County day here. All is well.
    Love that AZ sunshine though. Spent 3 years working in Laughlin- Bullhead. It’s a dry heat there too. Never had a cold when I was there. Germs dried out. :)


  53. 53 | July 15, 2010 8:10 pm

    @ 1389AD:

    Over a decade ago, we knew that was going to happen.

    Yup, I told people that after Serbia, Israel was next. Goldstone rings a bell to Serbs, doesn’t it?


  54. savages_girl
    54 | July 15, 2010 8:11 pm

    @ Speranza:

    He is allegedly a man of God

    Problem is he thinks HE’S God…

    he’s a drama king… AND a jerk…


  55. Jorline
    55 | July 15, 2010 8:12 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Oh, and a re-posting of a comment from the last thread, cause it’s to precious not to re-post and I really am that childish and immature.
    | July 15, 2010 18:36
    Charles7/15/2010 9:32:46 am PDT
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    re: #371 MandyManners
    Why was No. 210 deleted?
    Because I’m tired of you posting “There is no fun in Islam.”
    We have several Muslim commenters here. Have you ever stopped to consider how that might make them feel?
    Hey Charles…. How does Mohammad’s dick taste????

    Un-Fucking-Believable! Chuck better hope his new muslim lizard friends don’t go into the achieves. Oh, that’s right, he scrubbed them.

    Mandy, why do you put up with that shit?
    Blow that joint and move over here where you’re welcome.

    Thank you sir, may I have another?


  56. Eliana
    56 | July 15, 2010 8:13 pm

    Media consumers in the United States are by now well aware that Hezbollah and Hamas provide “social services” for their communities. For the writers and television personalities who push such supposed palliatives on their audiences—“Yes, they do chant ‘kill the Jews!’ and they do act on their rhetoric, but they also educate poor kids in clean, well-lit schools (please ignore the slogans painted on the walls)”—respect for the resistance is a polite way of indicating one’s tolerance for murderous anti-Semitism.

    Liberals don’t like to mention that Hamas teaches their society’s children that they have an obligation to commit suicide.

    Hamas doesn’t just murder Jews, they sacrifice their own society’s children as a PR statement so that the world will blame Israel.

    Hamas isn’t the least bit ashamed of getting their children killed:


  57. orangecrush
    57 | July 15, 2010 8:13 pm

    @ 20 doriangrey: She speaks the truth there is no fun in islam. Didn’t the comedian Albert Brooks go looking. More likely the comment was deleted is because it’s a theme on anti charles blogs.

    i used to think there were muslims now I think there are only f**king muslims.


  58. orangecrush
    58 | July 15, 2010 8:15 pm

    @ 20 doriangrey: That is the only time I have seen Charles concerned about someones feelings. Muslims. lol


  59. Eliana
    59 | July 15, 2010 8:15 pm

    @ Kirly:

    look at us trying to help each other. as it should be. i will keep sharing info as i learn about it.

    Thanks!

    It’s a wonderful idea!!


  60. 60 | July 15, 2010 8:16 pm

    MrPaulRevere wrote:

    From the comments at that article:

    CBDenver says:
    Jul 14, 2010 at 9:50 AM
    Eric J — I agree with you wholeheartedly. When the Israelis were searching for socialist nirvana via the kubbutzim, they were the darlings of the left. When they abandoned socialism, they became apostates of the socialist religion. Such apostasy is never forgiven by the left.
    Fascinating, I hadn’t thought of that angle.

    Betcha you’re right. That’s why the progs suck up to Venezuela and Chavez while they demonize Chile for the Pinochet counterrevolution.


  61. 61 | July 15, 2010 8:19 pm

    Eliana wrote:

    @ Kirly:
    1389 – if you’re still here, i heard another company is hiring in Phoenix. it’s only a few people, but you might be just the one they need! it’s called Eeye Security.
    Also, 1389, EMC is hiring in Raleigh, NC at Research Triangle Park!

    Phoenix is pretty far away; I’ll take a look, but it costs money to move a big vehicle, as Savage and others can tell you! The closer to SC, the cheaper it is for me to get there.


  62. 62 | July 15, 2010 8:19 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    That’s what got me, his pure hatred of a woman who is the mother of his 8 month old daughter. He is allegedly a man of God but his language would make a truck driver blush.

    She had microphones in her ear rings, this smells to high hell of agent provocateur crap if you ask me. Mel is clearly unbalanced and she is a gold digging bitch out to take that fool for a hundred million or more and he probably realizes that is the only reason she ever had anything to do with him.


  63. orangecrush
    63 | July 15, 2010 8:19 pm

    Story from http://www.michaeltotten.com/

    Last year I expected to see at least a few government soldiers when I visited the ancient city of Shibam in Hadramawt, the vast eastern province where Osama bin Laden’s father was born. A few months earlier, four South Korean tourists were blown up by a suicide bomber as they admired the view of Shibam from across the valley. I was a little nervous. “Don’t worry,” my guide said, patting my shoulder as we walked up to the ridge where the Koreans died. “Ever since the bombing they have put this place on high security.” But when we got to the top of the ridge there was not a single soldier or policeman to be seen. We gazed out over the valley in silence. A sign stood nearby, showing a pair of binoculars and the words in English “Discover Islam.” As we began to leave, my guide smiled broadly and gestured at the sign. “The Koreans – they discovered Islam,” he said, giggling at his joke.


  64. orangecrush
    64 | July 15, 2010 8:21 pm

    @ doriangrey: Mel Gibson is a classic bad blackout drunk. I had a relative drink like that and he took an axe to his wife. His son in law knocked him out cold. He sobered up and couldn’t remember a thing. It borders on a mental illness.


  65. 65 | July 15, 2010 8:21 pm

    @ Eliana:

    I read this.

    Hizballah is preparing for war.


  66. 66 | July 15, 2010 8:22 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ 1389AD:
    Over a decade ago, we knew that was going to happen.
    Yup, I told people that after Serbia, Israel was next. Goldstone rings a bell to Serbs, doesn’t it?

    You mean this???
    This is an evil person.


  67. 67 | July 15, 2010 8:22 pm

    @ 1389AD:

    Raleigh isn’t that far as Eliana is pointing out.


  68. 68 | July 15, 2010 8:24 pm

    Thunder and lightning very very frightening… But oh so welcome when it brings the rain that drops the 105 temp down to a lovely 90 degrees…


  69. 69 | July 15, 2010 8:24 pm

    WOW Geraldo Rivera defending the Tea party against the NAACP.


  70. savages_girl
    70 | July 15, 2010 8:25 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    She had microphones in her ear rings, this smells to high hell of agent provocateur crap if you ask me

    think what you will, but his attitude is recorded for all to hear and witness. Do you think he would have acted nicer if he didn’t know he was being recorded? Possibly. Would we have seen the “real” Mel? Probably not.

    Think what you want of the girlfriend, but he was stupid enough to get involved with her and her with him, and now he’s all ranting against her.

    He wasn’t hating her so much back when he was busy fooling around with her and getting her pregnant… Mel’s not all too smart when it comes to his personal life…


  71. 71 | July 15, 2010 8:26 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    This is an evil person.

    Ahhh, but Stan has a very special place picked out for him, such lovely curtains in the kitchen…


  72. savages_girl
    72 | July 15, 2010 8:27 pm

    @ Rodan:

    WOW Geraldo Rivera defending the Tea party against the NAACP.

    WOW! Yeah for Geraldo!


  73. 73 | July 15, 2010 8:27 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Thunder and lightning very very frightening… But oh so welcome when it brings the rain that drops the 105 temp down to a lovely 90 degrees…

    My husband and I like the thunderstorms we’ve been having, but my cat gets freaked out. Poor little guy…


  74. savages_girl
    74 | July 15, 2010 8:28 pm

    @ orangecrush:

    Mel Gibson is a classic bad blackout drunk

    He sobered up and couldn’t remember a thing. It borders on a mental illness.

    Yes, I know the type. I lived with a guy like that for 3 1/2 years…
    It’s VERY SCARY.


  75. savages_girl
    75 | July 15, 2010 8:29 pm

    There I go again with that stupid block-quote problem…


  76. bar
    76 | July 15, 2010 8:31 pm

    Is it just me or is it not really ironic that the name of the President of the NAACP name is “Ben Jealous”?


  77. 77 | July 15, 2010 8:31 pm

    Mel Gibson is a classic bad blackout drunk

    He sobered up and couldn’t remember a thing. It borders on a mental illness.

    Yes, I know the type. I lived with a guy like that for 3 1/2 years…
    It’s VERY SCARY.

    fify


  78. 78 | July 15, 2010 8:32 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ 1389AD:
    Raleigh isn’t that far as Eliana is pointing out.

    eEye is hiring an account manager and a sales engineer in Phoenix, neither of which I’d be qualified for. I’ll check EMC next.


  79. 79 | July 15, 2010 8:32 pm

    @ savages_girl:

    Hey take a chill pill, I’m not defending Mel, I’m a Alpha Male, so is Mel, I know how we react to certain situations, and it isn’t by being calm rational or reasonable.

    Most men are neither Alpha nor Beta males, they are a combination of both, most men would never respond the way Mel is responding. His response is pure Alpha male behavior, that doesn’t make it right or acceptable, it’s just what it is.


  80. savages_girl
    80 | July 15, 2010 8:33 pm

    @ savage:
    Thanks Savage… I couldn’t figure out how to fix that…


  81. 81 | July 15, 2010 8:34 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ 1389AD:
    Over a decade ago, we knew that was going to happen.
    Yup, I told people that after Serbia, Israel was next. Goldstone rings a bell to Serbs, doesn’t it?

    Maybe you could make a thread out of that?


  82. 82 | July 15, 2010 8:34 pm

    bar wrote:

    Is it just me or is it not really ironic that the name of the President of the NAACP name is “Ben Jealous”?

    Greg Gutefeild on Red Eye pointed that out last night…


  83. savages_girl
    83 | July 15, 2010 8:36 pm

    @ savages_girl:

    His response is pure Alpha alcoholic male behavior

    His response is pure bullshit…

    And believe me, I’m plenty “chill” as Savage could tell you…


  84. savages_girl
    84 | July 15, 2010 8:37 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    #83 was response to you… not to me… geez, can’t get this right tonight…


  85. 85 | July 15, 2010 8:42 pm

    @ 1389AD:

    Maybe you could make a thread out of that?

    I believe I did already.
    I’ll find it and link it. If not I will write that up.


  86. huckfunn
    86 | July 15, 2010 8:45 pm

    I wonder if Bravefart’s face was painted blue when he threatened to burn down the house if he didn’t get a BJ NOW.


  87. rain of lead
    87 | July 15, 2010 8:45 pm

    just got a call for a live conferance call with my congress critter
    any ideas for questions

    I’m on now


  88. 88 | July 15, 2010 8:46 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    :lol: !


  89. 90 | July 15, 2010 8:47 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    any ideas for questions

    I’m on now

    Ask him why we dont charge people who betray America with Treason any more…


  90. Speranza
    91 | July 15, 2010 8:47 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    I don’t believe it was doctored at all and it sure sounded like Gibson to me. He has some expensive and slick lawyers working for him.


  91. huckfunn
    92 | July 15, 2010 8:48 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    !

    Can’t ya just see it?


  92. 93 | July 15, 2010 8:48 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    Why aren’t they calling Zero a liar more often, afterall the Demcong accused Bush of faking evidence to invade Iraq


  93. 94 | July 15, 2010 8:48 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Yeah!


  94. 95 | July 15, 2010 8:49 pm

    @ Scott Madsen:

    Republicans don’t know how to fight.


  95. savages_girl
    96 | July 15, 2010 8:51 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Yeah, we were talking about that at work today. I don’t think it’s so doctored and yeah, I agree with Speranza, he can afford expensive and slick laywers, PR people, etc. (I know, William-Morris agency dropped him, but he’s still got people). Bottom line is, he said what he said, and nobody’s denying that…


  96. 97 | July 15, 2010 8:52 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I don’t believe it was doctored at all and it sure sounded like Gibson to me. He has some expensive and slick lawyers working for him.

    Ya, about that… These weren’t Gibson’s lawyers, these were experts for one of the websites that released the audio tapes, seems they figured out that they were hoaxed and are trying to cover their asses against a libel suits now.


  97. rain of lead
    98 | July 15, 2010 8:53 pm

    this gal is running for congress
    wow, she is sounding awesome
    the questions sound like stuff you guys would ask

    here is her website

    http://www.votelouann.com/


  98. Speranza
    99 | July 15, 2010 8:53 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    She had microphones in her ear rings, this smells to high hell of agent provocateur crap if you ask me.

    Well it certainly does not take much to provoke him. How many times did he use the c*nt and f*ck words on her? I cannot stand that guy with his phony religious persona. His mother and father (two Holocaust deniers by the way) did some number on him.


  99. 100 | July 15, 2010 8:53 pm

    well, im ready for the show yay!


  100. Speranza
    101 | July 15, 2010 8:54 pm

    savages_girl wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Yeah, we were talking about that at work today. I don’t think it’s so doctored and yeah, I agree with Speranza, he can afford expensive and slick laywers, PR people, etc. (I know, William-Morris agency dropped him, but he’s still got people). Bottom line is, he said what he said, and nobody’s denying that…

    His lawyers are denying that he knocked her two teeth out.


  101. savages_girl
    102 | July 15, 2010 8:56 pm

    @ savage:

    well, im ready for the show yay

    You’d better be ready, you are on in less than 5 minutes!

    silly goose…


  102. rain of lead
    103 | July 15, 2010 8:57 pm

    wow she is aware of sharia law and what it really is


  103. 104 | July 15, 2010 8:57 pm

    @ savages_girl:
    2 mins haha


  104. 105 | July 15, 2010 8:57 pm

    Well I really did some bs because I thought the blogtalk was on at 8 eastern time and thats what I told Pamela. If she dont come its my fault. Wasn’t it on at 8 before?


  105. huckfunn
    106 | July 15, 2010 8:57 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    His lawyers are denying that he knocked her two teeth out.

    The tomahawk tapes will be out tomorrow…. stay tuned.


  106. rain of lead
    107 | July 15, 2010 8:58 pm

    holy jeez she is a strong Republican woman


  107. yenta-fada
    108 | July 15, 2010 8:58 pm

    OT. Just because they goose-stepped some financial bullsh$t through Congress today

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-demands-tax-dollars-only-be-wasted-on-stuff,17704/


  108. savages_girl
    109 | July 15, 2010 8:59 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Yenta-fada!

    Are you going to be listening to the show tonight?


  109. yenta-fada
    110 | July 15, 2010 8:59 pm

    @ savage:

    Present! :-)


  110. snork
    111 | July 15, 2010 8:59 pm

    168 hour rule.


  111. yenta-fada
    112 | July 15, 2010 8:59 pm

    savages_girl wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Yenta-fada!
    Are you going to be listening to the show tonight?

    If my computer doesn’t mess up!


  112. 113 | July 15, 2010 9:00 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    I cannot stand that guy with his phony religious persona.

    So, you know Mel personally? You know him well enough to know that his religious beliefs are really phony? I don’t actually know a single person well enough to know if their religious beliefs are phony. I must be frightening to know stuff like that about other people.


  113. Speranza
    114 | July 15, 2010 9:01 pm

    Not much of a fan of Allahpundits lately but he says this regarding the charges of doctoring the tapes

    . Exit question: Is this pushback about the tapes being doctored really just Mel’s way of planting a tiny enough seed of doubt in the public’s mind to save his career? E.g., “Honey, I don’t want to see the new Mel Gibson movie. Didn’t you hear those tapes?” “But baby — he says the tapes were doctored.”


  114. Speranza
    115 | July 15, 2010 9:02 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    So, you know Mel personally? You know him well enough to know that his religious beliefs are really phony?

    A man so full of hatred,violence and bigotry is not a man of God – just my opinion.


  115. m
    116 | July 15, 2010 9:02 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    GREAT start.


  116. rain of lead
    117 | July 15, 2010 9:10 pm

    she is running to defeat Tenn’s Bart Gordon( d-spit)
    she sounds like one of Sarahs momma grizzlys


  117. 118 | July 15, 2010 10:09 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Not much of a fan of Allahpundits lately but he says this regarding the charges of doctoring the tapes

    Well considering I have lost all respect for Assholepundit…


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