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Tennessee city residents resist Islamic Colonial Center

by Rodan ( 119 Comments › )
Filed under Islamic Invasion, Islamic Supremacism, Leftist-Islamic Alliance, Sharia (Islamic Law) at July 16th, 2010 - 4:30 pm

First it was the Cordoba Center near the site of 9/11 ground zero in NYC. It’s goal is to celebrate the scene of Islam’s greatest victory since Ottoman Empire. Now, in the Tennessee town of Murfreesboro, Islamic Colonialists seek to build an Islamic Center. This has nothing to do with religious freedom, it’s about colonial domination. Make no mistake, these centers are outposts for Islam’s dream of conquering America. The residents don’t want it and are speaking out.

(CNN) — A proposed mosque and Islamic center in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, is dividing the city about 35 miles southeast of Nashville, Tennessee. Residents are battling about whether the center should exist, and if not, why not.

The Islamic Center of Murfreesboro currently resides in the southwest part of town. The center purchased a new 15-acre site just a few miles to the east in November for $320,000, according to its website, with plans to build on the property.

Proponents of the mosque allege the opponents are displaying religious intolerance, while people fighting the mosque say zoning concerns and worries about Islamic radicalism are their chief concerns.

Several hundred opponents marching from a middle school to a courthouse faced off against roughly the same number of counter-protesters Wednesday.

The rhetoric was heated. Protesters bore signs with slogans such as “MOSQUE LEADERS SUPPORT KILLING CONVERTS.”

“In Islam, a mosque means ‘We have conquered this country,’” one man told CNN affiliate WTVF. “And where are they? They’re in the center of Tennessee. They’re going to say, ‘We have conquered Tennessee.’”

Read the rest: Middle Tennessee city divided over proposed Islamic center

Here’s a video clip of the residents resisting Islamic Imperialism.

The American people have had enough of the Islamic Colonization. This is another example of where the American people and the elites have a different vision for this nation. The time for tolerance has ended and it’s time for intolerance.

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119 Responses to “Tennessee city residents resist Islamic Colonial Center”
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  1. Speranza
    1 | July 16, 2010 16:38

    I apologize for going off topic so early but Sharmuta has been found! hat tip The Osprey
    (and Rodan will love this) she is at Medaura’s blog

    Sharmuta says:
    June 22, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    I doubt they enjoyed being reminded of a real conservative (Reagan) and they certainly don’t want to lose their newfound positions of relevance in the right-wing pundit-sphere. Reminding people that vdare and their ilk are not conservatives (in the classic Reagan/Goldwater mold) is the last thing these fascists want you (or anyone) doing.

    #

    Sharmuta says:
    June 22, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    And the comments at Kevin’s site are just as vile as a kosling’s pro-hamas diary.

    Read more: http://www.kejda.net/2010/06/22/letters-from-peter-brimelows-vdare-readers/comment-page-1/#comment-14378#ixzz0tsbQwKPq


  2. 2 | July 16, 2010 16:42

    @ Speranza:

    Is there a way to be sure that is her? Not that I care but looks like it was just a skipped heartbeat if thats her.


  3. Speranza
    3 | July 16, 2010 16:45

    Grimcargo wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Is there a way to be sure that is her? Not that I care but looks like it was just a skipped heartbeat if thats her.

    It sort of reads like her and she and Medaura were pretty friendly on LGF so I guess that Medaura could check if it is her via her private email.


  4. chickadee
    4 | July 16, 2010 16:46

    No more mosques in America until Christians and Jews are freely allowed to build houses of worship in muzz countries.


  5. m
    5 | July 16, 2010 16:46

    @ Grimcargo:

    (in the classic Reagan/Goldwater mold) is the last thing these fascists want you (or anyone) doing.

    Oh yeah. That’s her. LOL!


  6. Speranza
    6 | July 16, 2010 16:47

    Btw Murfreesboro Tenn.was the site of a horrific Civil War battled Dec 31, 1862 – January 2, 1863 which was pretty much a tactical draw between the Union Army of the Cumberland and the Confederate Army of Tennessee. The North called it the Battle of Stones River and the South called it The battle of Murfreesboro.


  7. 7 | July 16, 2010 16:47

    Speranza wrote:

    Grimcargo wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Is there a way to be sure that is her? Not that I care but looks like it was just a skipped heartbeat if thats her.

    It sort of reads like her and she and Medaura were pretty friendly on LGF so I guess that Medaura could check if it is her via her private email.

    Bloated Bovine won’t cotton to that one bit. lmao


  8. Speranza
    8 | July 16, 2010 16:48

    m wrote:

    @ Grimcargo:
    (in the classic Reagan/Goldwater mold) is the last thing these fascists want you (or anyone) doing.
    Oh yeah. That’s her. LOL!

    She is such an empty vessel – she knows nothing about Goldwaterism. Barry Goldwater was denounced as a fascist and a war monger just like Republicans today are by people such as her fomer “beau” – Charles Johnson.


  9. 9 | July 16, 2010 16:49

    Speranza wrote:

    Btw Murfreesboro Tenn.was the site of a horrific Civil War battled Dec 31, 1862 – January 2, 1863 which was pretty much a tactical draw between the Union Army of the Cumberland and the Confederate Army of Tennessee. The North called it the Battle of Stones River and the South called it The battle of Murfreesboro.

    Yes I know. On up from there is Columbia Tn. Rich rich in history. Btw some of my family are in the law enforcement there in Murfreesboro as well as Columbia.


  10. 10 | July 16, 2010 16:50

    m wrote:

    @ Grimcargo:

    (in the classic Reagan/Goldwater mold) is the last thing these fascists want you (or anyone) doing.

    Oh yeah. That’s her. LOL!

    Hey M.


  11. Speranza
    11 | July 16, 2010 16:50

    @ Grimcargo:
    Medaura also left LGF a while ago. She was at one time one of CJ’s favorites leading the charge against “neo fascism” and “bad craziness”.


  12. m
    12 | July 16, 2010 16:51

    @ Grimcargo:

    Hey Grimcargo! What’s the haps?!

    Hey, thanks again and again and again for getting in touch with Pamela for us. That was great.


  13. Speranza
    13 | July 16, 2010 16:51

    Grimcargo wrote:

    Yes I know. On up from there is Columbia Tn. Rich rich in history. Btw some of my family are in the law enforcement there in Murfreesboro as well as Columbia.

    One day I will make it to Tenn. and see all those Civil War battlefields – Stones River, Shiloh, Franklin, Chattanooga, etc.


  14. 14 | July 16, 2010 16:52

    And I might say. Just like Shelbyville,Tn. where it took the locals awhile to realize what had just invaded their peaceful existence, it is taking Murfreesboro and Columbia awhile.


  15. Speranza
    15 | July 16, 2010 16:52

    m wrote:

    @ Grimcargo:
    Hey Grimcargo! What’s the haps?!
    Hey, thanks again and again and again for getting in touch with Pamela for us. That was great.

    It was a terrific show.


  16. Speranza
    16 | July 16, 2010 16:52

    @ Speranza:
    I’ll bet icejimmah forced Medaura out of LGF.


  17. 17 | July 16, 2010 16:52

    m wrote:

    @ Grimcargo:

    Hey Grimcargo! What’s the haps?!

    Hey, thanks again and again and again for getting in touch with Pamela for us. That was great.

    Could I be bold and say….Sarah is next. Might take me awhile.


  18. The Osprey
    18 | July 16, 2010 16:53

    @ Speranza:

    It was somewhat serendipitous, Speranza. I was nosing around Robert Stacy McCain’s site and I stumbled upon an article from about a year or so ago when Chuckles first went on his jihad against the “Neo Confederate” in which Medaura was implicated in the affair. I went to Commentary to see if she is still there and she is, she recently penned a screed against AB1070 that has gotten her in a blog feud with Peter Brimelow of VDARE. I went to her website to see what was up with that and in the recent comment section, lo and behold was a comment from the Sharmutant. I had forgetten that she and Medaura were tight.


  19. 19 | July 16, 2010 16:53

    Speranza wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I’ll bet icejimmah forced Medaura out of LGF.

    Yeah like she is doing Mandy. Taking longer for Mandy but she is on the ledge right now. Springer show.


  20. m
    20 | July 16, 2010 16:53

    @ Grimcargo:

    Yeah. GET RIGHT ON THAT! ! ! ;-)

    ~:D ~:D ~:D

    Hey why don’t you call in and join us?!


  21. m
    21 | July 16, 2010 16:55

    See y’all in a bit!


  22. 22 | July 16, 2010 16:56

    The Osprey wrote:

    @ Speranza:

    It was somewhat serendipitous, Speranza. I was nosing around Robert Stacy McCain’s site and I stumbled upon an article from about a year or so ago when Chuckles first went on his jihad against the “Neo Confederate” in which Medaura was implicated in the affair. I went to Commentary to see if she is still there and she is, she recently penned a screed against AB1070 that has gotten her in a blog feud with Peter Brimelow of VDARE. I went to her website to see what was up with that and in the recent comment section, lo and behold was a comment from the Sharmutant. I had forgetten that she and Medaura were tight.

    They waste their time trying to demonize confederates, tea party. All it does is reenforce and anger them. They can’t cause crap.


  23. chickadee
    23 | July 16, 2010 16:57

    zero has emboldened the muzz to spread like a fungus. They are taking full advantage of the pro-muzz climate that exists now.
    They are slowly staking their claim to this country with every mosque they build.


  24. 24 | July 16, 2010 16:57

    m wrote:

    @ Grimcargo:

    Yeah. GET RIGHT ON THAT! ! !

    ~:D ~:D ~:D

    Hey why don’t you call in and join us?!

    I’m thinking about that.


  25. Speranza
    25 | July 16, 2010 16:57

    The Osprey wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    It was somewhat serendipitous, Speranza. I was nosing around Robert Stacy McCain’s site and I stumbled upon an article from about a year or so ago when Chuckles first went on his jihad against the “Neo Confederate” in which Medaura was implicated in the affair. I went to Commentary to see if she is still there and she is, she recently penned a screed against AB1070 that has gotten her in a blog feud with Peter Brimelow of VDARE. I went to her website to see what was up with that and in the recent comment section, lo and behold was a comment from the Sharmutant. I had forgetten that she and Medaura were tight.

    Great catch Osprey!!


  26. 26 | July 16, 2010 16:58

    chickadee wrote:

    zero has emboldened the muzz to spread like a fungus. They are taking full advantage of the pro-muzz climate that exists now.
    They are slowly staking their claim to this country with every mosque they build.

    You have that right. It’s kind of like the swamp giving up its dead. All the scum that was on the bottom has risen to the top. Nov.2 is the first kill.


  27. The Osprey
    27 | July 16, 2010 16:58

    Speranza wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I’ll bet icejimmah forced Medaura out of LGF.

    I don’t think so. I think it was a self imposed exile with the intent to clean up her image for her “mainstream” job at Commentary. She had a reputation as a foul mouthed provocateur at LGF and I think she might have been worried about her activities in that sandbox jeopardizing her employment with the straight arrow neocons at Commentary.


  28. chickadee
    28 | July 16, 2010 16:59

    Grimcargo wrote:

    And I might say. Just like Shelbyville,Tn. where it took the locals awhile to realize what had just invaded their peaceful existence, it is taking Murfreesboro and Columbia awhile.

    Did Shelbyville throw out the rop’ers?


  29. Speranza
    29 | July 16, 2010 17:01

    Grimcargo wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:
    @ Speranza:
    They waste their time trying to demonize confederates, tea party. All it does is reenforce and anger them. They can’t cause crap.

    Tell Chucklehead that the last Confederate (Ia Texan) died in 1959 and he was only 117 years old (not much of a threat). Chucklehead can come out from underneath his bed.


  30. Speranza
    30 | July 16, 2010 17:03

    The Osprey wrote:

    I don’t think so. I think it was a self imposed exile with the intent to clean up her image for her “mainstream” job at Commentary. She had a reputation as a foul mouthed provocateur at LGF and I think she might have been worried about her activities in that sandbox jeopardizing her employment with the straight arrow neocons at Commentary.

    Commentary is a very pro Israel magazine so she would have to watch her postings at LGF carefully. There is nothing “neo” about the conservatism at Commentary.


  31. 31 | July 16, 2010 17:05

    chickadee wrote:

    Grimcargo wrote:

    And I might say. Just like Shelbyville,Tn. where it took the locals awhile to realize what had just invaded their peaceful existence, it is taking Murfreesboro and Columbia awhile.

    Did Shelbyville throw out the rop’ers?

    No but that rebuffed their stinking arses. They all are at tysons chicken plant and almost pulled off some crap on Tyson and getting an EID holiday. But that was stopped. Even Tyson didnt know what EID was.


  32. Speranza
    32 | July 16, 2010 17:06

    By the way Sharm-wow the paleocons (VDARE is a full blown paleocon place) have nothing to do with conservatism or right wingers. They have a lot more in common with the Left with their anti Semitism, isolationism, and appeasement of Islamofascism.


  33. The Osprey
    33 | July 16, 2010 17:06

    Speranza wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:
    I don’t think so. I think it was a self imposed exile with the intent to clean up her image for her “mainstream” job at Commentary. She had a reputation as a foul mouthed provocateur at LGF and I think she might have been worried about her activities in that sandbox jeopardizing her employment with the straight arrow neocons at Commentary.
    Commentary is a very pro Israel magazine so she would have to watch her postings at LGF carefully. There is nothing “neo” about the conservatism at Commentary.

    I think Robert Spencer has tried to make them aware of her background, to no avail. She must have turned on the charm for them.


  34. 34 | July 16, 2010 17:07

    Speranza wrote:

    Grimcargo wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:
    @ Speranza:
    They waste their time trying to demonize confederates, tea party. All it does is reenforce and anger them. They can’t cause crap.

    Tell Chucklehead that the last Confederate (Ia Texan) died in 1959 and he was only 117 years old (not much of a threat). Chucklehead can come out from underneath his bed.

    He is speaking now about the entire South though. He is speaking about me.


  35. Speranza
    35 | July 16, 2010 17:08

    The Osprey wrote:

    I think Robert Spencer has tried to make them aware of her background, to no avail. She must have turned on the charm for them.

    Could have been. Rodan thinks she is only pretending to be of Jewish origin instead she is a full blown Muslim.


  36. Speranza
    36 | July 16, 2010 17:08

    Grimcargo wrote:

    He is speaking now about the entire South though. He is speaking about me.

    He is a regional bigot.


  37. 37 | July 16, 2010 17:10

    Martin L. King’s niece on Beck and she seems foreign to the NAACP.


  38. The Osprey
    38 | July 16, 2010 17:12

    Geert Wilders is going to be leading a new international anti-jihad alliance!

    Prepare for denunciation of “raaaaacism” from Chuckles in 3…2…1…


  39. LGoPs
    39 | July 16, 2010 17:12

    Speranza wrote:

    @ Grimcargo:
    Medaura also left LGF a while ago. She was at one time one of CJ’s favorites leading the charge against “neo fascism” and “bad craziness”.

    Speaking of bad craziness, I never quite understood the need to use the qualifier ‘bad’. As if there is good craziness…..or middling craziness or that ever elusive and annoying ‘just enough craziness to drive me crazy’ craziness. I figure it’s a Charles-ism so I should consider the source. But it just kind of bugs me. Kind of like do I need to distinguish ‘baaaad’ bad from your normal everyday, run of the mill bad.
    Just rambling……


  40. 40 | July 16, 2010 17:19

    Hey Speranza I have read a lot about Shiloh since I had ancestors who died there. I cam across something once that I cannot figure out. It was a narrative written by a soldier who was there and lived awhile to write and he said: ” It was dark then.And a storm came up. I heard the hissing of buzzards and saw them when the lightening lit the skies.” I am not a buzzard expert but I just never believed buzzards came out in the night. Perhaps I am wrong.


  41. chickadee
    41 | July 16, 2010 17:20

    @ Grimcargo:
    We need to stop all muzz immigration now. We need skilled, educated, talented people who bring something to this country. Who appreciate the great opportunities here.

    Only progs who want to destroy America, enlist scum like this who refuse to assimilate, who come to subjugate us, to destroy our way of life.


  42. 42 | July 16, 2010 17:20

    LGoPs wrote:

    Speranza wrote:

    @ Grimcargo:
    Medaura also left LGF a while ago. She was at one time one of CJ’s favorites leading the charge against “neo fascism” and “bad craziness”.

    Speaking of bad craziness, I never quite understood the need to use the qualifier ‘bad’. As if there is good craziness…..or middling craziness or that ever elusive and annoying ‘just enough craziness to drive me crazy’ craziness. I figure it’s a Charles-ism so I should consider the source. But it just kind of bugs me. Kind of like do I need to distinguish ‘baaaad’ bad from your normal everyday, run of the mill bad.
    Just rambling……

    Well he has some very close crazy to compare with….HIM


  43. 43 | July 16, 2010 17:22

    chickadee wrote:

    @ Grimcargo:
    We need to stop all muzz immigration now. We need skilled, educated, talented people who bring something to this country. Who appreciate the great opportunities here.

    Only progs who want to destroy America, enlist scum like this who refuse to assimilate, who come to subjugate us, to destroy our way of life.

    They want to use them against us. Like a battering ram so they will have two different battering rams…blacks and Muzzies


  44. buzzsawmonkey
    44 | July 16, 2010 17:24

    Who threw the prayer rug in Murfreesboro city?
    Muslims want to build a mosque, and the response isn’t pretty
    Folks say it’s just a trick
    To make the US Islamic
    That’s why they want a mosque in Murfreesboro city

    —apologies to “Who Threw the Overalls in Mrs. Murphy’s Chowder?”


  45. The Osprey
    45 | July 16, 2010 17:25

    “Bad craziness” is a phrase made popular by the drug addled 60′s “Gonzo Journalist” “Doctor” Hunter S. Thompson and beloved by generations of undergrad scribblers ever since.


  46. 46 | July 16, 2010 17:28

    @ LGoPs:

    When it comes to crazy, I always liked the modifier “bat-shit.”


  47. chickadee
    47 | July 16, 2010 17:28

    Speranza wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:

    I think Robert Spencer has tried to make them aware of her background, to no avail. She must have turned on the charm for them.

    Could have been. Rodan thinks she is only pretending to be of Jewish origin instead she is a full blown Muslim.

    She claimed to be an atheist and to have a Jewish grandmother. Purely designed to hide that she is an Albanian muzz.


  48. 48 | July 16, 2010 17:29

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ LGoPs:

    When it comes to crazy, I always liked the modifier “bat-shit.”

    Where were you last night. I looked everywhere.


  49. LGoPs
    49 | July 16, 2010 17:29

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ LGoPs:
    When it comes to crazy, I always liked the modifier “bat-shit.”

    LoL. Me too.


  50. 50 | July 16, 2010 17:31

    The Osprey wrote:

    Geert Wilders is going to be leading a new international anti-jihad alliance!
    Prepare for denunciation of “raaaaacism” from Chuckles in 3…2…1…

    To find out how much I care about what SChmuck has to say on this, or ANY issue that confronts us, pull my finger.


  51. 51 | July 16, 2010 17:32

    Holy Smokes radar lit up like a christmas tree. Bad storms coming. Gotta git to de barn pronto


  52. 52 | July 16, 2010 17:34

    Obama Says Voters Will Decide Who Caused ‘This Mess’

    Washington (AP) – President Barack Obama acknowledges that the fall elections could amount to a referendum on his stewardship of the nation’s affairs.

    Obama tells NBC in an interview that “nobody in the White House is satisfied” with continuing high unemployment.

    But he also says the midterm congressional elections could come down to “a choice between the policies that got us into this mess and my policies that got us out of this mess.”

    The president said in the interview he believes voters “are going to say the policies that got us into this mess, we can’t go back to.” He also said Washington “has spent an inordinate amount of time on politics — who’s up and who’s down — and not enough on what we’re doing for the American people.”

    From the frying pan, heated by the ill-conceived policies of Democrats and Republicans past, into the Fusion Fire of Barry’s Socialist policies and agenda, aided and abetted by Pelosi, Reid, all the Dems and RINOs in Congress.


  53. snork
    53 | July 16, 2010 17:35

    Speranza wrote:

    @ Grimcargo:
    Medaura also left LGF a while ago. She was at one time one of CJ’s favorites leading the charge against “neo fascism” and “bad craziness”.

    And climate denialism. She even took a correspondence course on climatology.
    /Seriously.


  54. 54 | July 16, 2010 17:41

    @ Grimcargo:

    I was able to get in for the radio show and then had to go right back to work (brought some home). I’m hoping to get my life back soon!


  55. 55 | July 16, 2010 17:49

    2nd Christmas Day Terror Plot May Have Been Planned for NYC

    Fox News reports the failed bombing attempt over Detroit on Christmas Day may not have been the only attack that extremists planned for the 2009 holiday, with intelligence from overseas three weeks earlier indicating that a plot targeting New York City on the same day may have been in the works, according to an FBI report they have obtained.

    “The final target of the attack was not known, but extremist members had allegedly discussed restaurants and night clubs located in New York City,” the FBI’s assistant legal attache in London wrote in a threat report dated Dec. 4, 2009. “The extremists allegedly discussed conducting the attack on 25 December, to coincide with the Christmas holiday.”


  56. buzzsawmonkey
    56 | July 16, 2010 17:54

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:

    On the first day of Christmas, al-Qaeda sent to me
    Terror plots in New York City

    On the second day of Christmas, al-Qaeda sent to me
    Bloomberg blaming Tea Parties
    And some terror plots in New York City

    On the third day of Christmas, al-Qaeda sent to me
    Holder’s Justice Department
    Bloomberg blaming Tea Partiers
    And some terror plots in New York City

    /if you don’t mind, I’ll be ill now…


  57. 57 | July 16, 2010 17:57

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    On the first day of Christmas, al-Qaeda sent to me
    Terror plots in New York City
    On the second day of Christmas, al-Qaeda sent to me
    Bloomberg blaming Tea Parties
    And some terror plots in New York City
    On the third day of Christmas, al-Qaeda sent to me
    Holder’s Justice Department
    Bloomberg blaming Tea Partiers
    And some terror plots in New York City

    Buzz, thank you for that very much needed laugh. :)


  58. 58 | July 16, 2010 18:02

    OT- New Daedalus!

    Sharmuta has been found


  59. waldensianspirit
    59 | July 16, 2010 18:13

    @ Rodan:
    w-lover


  60. snork
    60 | July 16, 2010 18:16

    @ Rodan:
    Wrong link.


  61. snork
    61 | July 16, 2010 18:21

    I wish we had some politicians with as much fight in them as Andy Breitbart:

    “Let me say something a tad newsworthy to the president of the NAACP. You can go to hell. … I have tapes…tape of racism and it’s an NAACP dinner. You want to play with fire? I have evidence of racism and it’s coming from the NAACP.”


  62. 4_Sticks
    62 | July 16, 2010 18:23

    Gotta luv this AP headline:

    July 16, 2010 5:01 PM ET

    “Less-confident consumers could stall recovery”

    http://hosted2.ap.org/WBZAM/f7ded15e4d4846268a17b79c1c4b7cb8/Article_2010-07-16-US-Economy/id-03cabfd1e41c4689ae84acd6b70a3514

    So it’s OUR fault…OMG.


  63. waldensianspirit
    63 | July 16, 2010 18:25

    @ snork:
    The stuff-your-face-in-the-land-of-plenty-while-letting-out-your-inner-racism dinner


  64. 64 | July 16, 2010 18:29

    @ snork:

    Correct link!


  65. 65 | July 16, 2010 18:31

    Tomorrow is my B-Day, But I am celebrating now!

    Drinking some Spanish Wine!

    Listening to Old School Rap Jams like this!

    Rodan is the Illest!


  66. m
    66 | July 16, 2010 18:31

    @ Grimcargo:

    Good! It’s really, really fun!

    :D


  67. buzzsawmonkey
    67 | July 16, 2010 18:31

    @ snork:

    The problem is, “racism” for the Left—and the fuzzy-brained folks who swallow Leftist rhetoric unthinkingly—is something that runs only one way; white to black. For the Left, blacks, no matter how overtly racist, are never racist because they don’t “have the power,” while whites, no matter how well-intentioned or non-racist by action, are always tinged with racism because whites “have the power/hegemony.”

    That is why I am trying to revive the hundred-year-old term “revanchist.” This term comes from the word for “revenge”; originally, it related to the French who wanted to recover territory lost in the Franco-Prussian war. But it applies—oh, how it applies—to the modern-day black racists: some of them, such as the NOI that Farrakhan leads, wanted to get several states ceded to them for a blacks-only Bantustan back in the days of the Civil Rights Movement. Some want the federal government to make good on the 19th-century campaign promise of 40 acres and a mule. Some want “reparations,” even though they, their parents, and their grandparents, and even their great-grandparents, never experienced slavery. Some merely want to work off their racist hostility to “crackers.”

    Let the Left have its “racist” epithet. Time to call the black racists what they are—revanchists, i.e., revenge-seekers—by a term that is not color-specific.


  68. 68 | July 16, 2010 18:35

    @ Rodan:

    Outstanding work, buddy!


  69. 69 | July 16, 2010 18:37

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Exactly, they have the same mentality as a German revanchist group 70 years ago.


  70. buzzsawmonkey
    70 | July 16, 2010 18:39

    Rodan wrote:

    Exactly, they have the same mentality as a German revanchist group 70 years ago.

    How could anyone not see that?


  71. 71 | July 16, 2010 18:39

    80′s Electro Hip Hop!

    I might break dance.


  72. 72 | July 16, 2010 18:40

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    They actually are National Socialist. They are race based Collectivists, hate Jews and want revenge. They would be at home in the 3rd Reich.


  73. buzzsawmonkey
    73 | July 16, 2010 18:42

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    @ Rodan:

    I would add that if the term “revanchist” is revived, it can be applied regardless of color, which means that it can be applied to such race-war advocates as Bill Ayers on the basis of their ideas, without getting into stupid arguments over a particular person’s melanin content.


  74. waldensianspirit
    74 | July 16, 2010 18:42

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Would using “revanchista” for individual ones be racist?


  75. buzzsawmonkey
    75 | July 16, 2010 18:44

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    ould using “revanchista” for individual ones be racist?

    One revanchist.
    Several revanchists.
    Revanchist ideas.

    The “-ista” suffix, as in “Sandinista,” is cute, but—if I may be prissy here for a moment—a needless distraction if one is trying to revive a semi-forgotten term. The term itself is good, in my view, without trying to “contemporize” it with faux-Spanish additions.


  76. waldensianspirit
    76 | July 16, 2010 18:47

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Brought it up because it is listed at
    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/revanchist

    old French


  77. buzzsawmonkey
    77 | July 16, 2010 18:50

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Yes. “Revanchist” applies to anyone, of whatever ethnicity, male or female.

    Handy term in these times, in my view.


  78. snork
    78 | July 16, 2010 18:54

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    That’s one issue, but even if you accept the premise that revenge is fair, and you further accept the premise that credits and debts can be handed inherited, the fact remains that there are very few white Americans who are decedents of slaves, and more, but still a minority who descended from Jim Crow activists. That leaves the majority of us who have NOTHING to do with the slave owners and Jim Crowers other than RACE. And ironically a “first black president” who probably has slave owners, and almost certainly Jim Crowers in his past, but no slaves.

    So who’s going to take revenge on who?


  79. snork
    79 | July 16, 2010 18:55

    PIMP. “very few white Americans who are decedents of slaves owners.


  80. 80 | July 16, 2010 18:57

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Would using “revanchista” for individual ones be racist?

    No, since when Spanish is race? This is another lie put out by the Leftists. The Hispanic subset of the Latin peoples can be White, Black, Native America, Asian or a combination of all! My Grandpa jokes, I was born a White man and I die a person of color!

    Progressive lie and create groups.


  81. Bob in Breckenridge
    81 | July 16, 2010 18:58

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    Obama Says Voters Will Decide Who Caused ‘This Mess’
    But he also says the midterm congressional elections could come down to “a choice between the policies that got us into this mess and my policies that got us out of this mess.

    This fuckin’ narcissistic asshole Obama is really delusional. How, in God’s name, did his policies get us out of a mess we’re still in, and that is getting WORSE, not better?

    Even though him and his fatass wife are on their seventh vacation in just 17 months, I hope they take more. At least when the pieces of dogshit are on vacation they can’t fuck up my, our, country.
    I HATE that motherfucker more every day!


  82. buzzsawmonkey
    82 | July 16, 2010 19:01

    @ snork:

    My point is that the Black Panther ideology, the NOI ideology, and—alas—the current NAACP ideology, is revanchist, i.e., revenge-driven, not justice-driven.

    I do not accept “revenge” as an acceptable political ideology, and I think that, 45 years after the passage of the Voting Rights Act, the sell-by date has been long past on any conceivable legitimacy for revenge as a post-Civil Rights Movement political ideology.

    Unfortunately, it is clear that the Left still thinks strictly in terms of race; that the “post-racial” presidency promised by Obama was packaged to appeal to voters as a promise that we would move past Sharpton/Jackson/Wright/Farrakhan/etc. race-hustling to a place of national unity. But that was a blatant fraud, for “post-racial” in Leftist terms meant, not moving past race, but a revanchist reversal, in which the never-racist blacks would be able to take revenge on the ever-racist whites. Eric Holder said as much with his “nation of cowards” remark.

    Since it is clear that the term “racist” will never be disentangled from the Leftist muddying of the term in my lifetime, I am trying to figure out a way to render the term irrelevant. “Revanchist” is my current proposal for that, since it relates to the intent of the ideology, not the color of anyone’s skin.


  83. 83 | July 16, 2010 19:01

    @ snork:

    Most White Americans are Immigrants or people that had nothing to do with it. The irony on these racist, is that a good portion of Whites have Native American blood.


  84. Speranza
    84 | July 16, 2010 19:03

    Grimcargo wrote:

    Hey Speranza I have read a lot about Shiloh since I had ancestors who died there. I cam across something once that I cannot figure out. It was a narrative written by a soldier who was there and lived awhile to write and he said: ” It was dark then.And a storm came up. I heard the hissing of buzzards and saw them when the lightening lit the skies.” I am not a buzzard expert but I just never believed buzzards came out in the night. Perhaps I am wrong.

    I don’t know but there is a site called civilwaralbum.com and they have great photos of the Shiloh Battle Field


  85. Bob in Breckenridge
    85 | July 16, 2010 19:03

    DEMS DESERT OBAMA

    By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

    Published on DickMorris.com on July 16, 2010

    Throughout the Obama Administration, the president has been able to count on the solid support of Democrats. Not anymore.

    According to the FOX News/Opinion Dynamics poll, Obama’s job approval among Democrats has dropped from 84% two weeks ago (June 29-30) to 76% on July 13-14. At 76%, this level of job approval is below any the Fox News poll has ever recorded.

    Why the collapse? Most likely it is due to liberal disappointment with the continuation of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, the continued use of Guantanamo, Obama’s inability to cope with the oil spill, and his refusal to push immigration reform when he could have passed it before he lost his 60 vote majority. Undoubtedly, the renewed sluggishness in the economy is also playing its part.

    Nothing could be worse news for Obama as he enters the 2010 Congressional campaign. Democratic dissatisfaction saps turnout and undermines the president’s efforts to keep his majorities in the House and the Senate.

    But Obama is making his troubles worse by his insistence on focusing on his minority voters to the exclusion of even the white liberal electorate. Consider Obama’s decision to sue Arizona over its immigration law. The general electorate backs the Arizona statute by 59-29 according to the FOX News poll. But 38% of Democrats support it as well (50% oppose it). Obama’s refusal to prosecute the Black Panthers for voter intimidation after they stationed themselves outside a Philadelphia polling place in military uniforms with clubs also underscores the growing exclusion of whites of all stripes — including liberals — from the Obama base.
    SNIP…


  86. 86 | July 16, 2010 19:05

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I agree with you and I despise them, the same way I despise Nazis.


  87. buzzsawmonkey
    87 | July 16, 2010 19:05

    @ snork:

    As to “who is going to take revenge on who,” I’ve chuckled before now about the notion that, depending on the admixture of white and black in a given person, a vast majority of the blacks in this country would have to pay reparations to themselves. Would light-skinned blacks like Holder and Wright be eligible for lower reparations, given how “white” they are—and how historically light-skinned blacks have had leadership in the black community? Or would they be entitled to “more,” on the grounds that their lighter color shows “more rape, and therefore more oppression?” Will West Indian blacks be excluded from reparations, because their ancestors were not enslaved in the US?

    Oh, the potential for dissension is endless.


  88. snowcrash
    88 | July 16, 2010 19:06

    @ Rodan:
    The factually challenged moron on DoD has to be ludwig, the English is awkward.


  89. 89 | July 16, 2010 19:07

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Since it is clear that the term “racist” will never be disentangled from the Leftist muddying of the term in my lifetime, I am trying to figure out a way to render the term irrelevant. “Revanchist” is my current proposal for that, since it relates to the intent of the ideology, not the color of anyone’s skin.

    And, as I’m sure you’ve noticed: R e v A n C h I S T

    I like it.


  90. snowcrash
    90 | July 16, 2010 19:09

    @ nil stooge:
    ROFL, I like it!


  91. buzzsawmonkey
    91 | July 16, 2010 19:19

    snowcrash wrote:

    The factually challenged moron on DoD has to be ludwig, the English is awkward.

    Ask him if he is 100% a merkin.


  92. snork
    92 | July 16, 2010 19:21

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Ask him if he is 100% a merkin.

    He thinks ‘m’ is a ‘grand dam’. That would make her a coulee, and I don’t think ‘m’ is Chinese…


  93. snowcrash
    93 | July 16, 2010 19:22

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Changed my mind. It is a woman posting. I will not wrestle with that pig.


  94. buzzsawmonkey
    94 | July 16, 2010 19:23

    snowcrash wrote:

    It is a woman posting.

    Then ask her if she is wearing a merkin.


  95. 95 | July 16, 2010 19:23

    at 7pm Arizona time (7pm PDT) tonight, you can listen to the debate between incumbent John McCain and tea party favorite JD Hayworth live on http://www.kfyi.com. if you wish.

    sorry to be OT but i know how most folks feel about McCain here and thought you might be interested.


  96. snowcrash
    96 | July 16, 2010 19:23

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    No, I am afraid she will want to show it to me. LOL


  97. buzzsawmonkey
    97 | July 16, 2010 19:25

    I’m out. Good Shabbos, all.


  98. snowcrash
    98 | July 16, 2010 19:28

    @ Kirly:
    Kirly, I will. Do you have recent polling data?


  99. snork
    99 | July 16, 2010 19:40

    snowcrash wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Changed my mind. It is a woman posting. I will not wrestle with that pig.

    More than likely Medusa herself. Saw the trackbacks, and…


  100. 100 | July 16, 2010 19:40

    snowcrash wrote:

    @ Kirly:
    Kirly, I will. Do you have recent polling data?

    well, JD wins hands down when you poll tea party people. but the rocky mountain poll of a coupel of days ago looked really bad for JD showing mccain at 65% BUT that poll had a very large margin of error so i dunno. the ads are vicious. and mccain is running at least 1 ad per hour on all the talk radio stations and 1 per hour of FNC too. while JD has a very small budget.

    i’ve moved from despising mccain to worse. he’s a horrible human being.


  101. 101 | July 16, 2010 19:47

    I’m less pissed off about this than Rodan expected. This isn’t, from the report (it is CNN, though), as “In Your Face” as the Ground Zero mosque. OTOH, I am concerned about their Imam. He is from Egypt. His schooling almost certainly means he has had contact with the Muslim Brotherhood. And where did the $325,000 come from? Yeah, it isn’t a huge amount of money, but you don’t just find it under a rock in these parts. I don’t believe them when they say 95% of it was raised locally.


  102. 102 | July 16, 2010 19:56

    Ballot secrecy compromised in NM, other Western states

    SANTA FE, N.M. – Retired state worker Joyce Pankey cast her absentee ballot in New Mexico’s primary election last month thinking that she alone knew which of the candidates she favored.

    Wrong.

    For Pankey and hundreds of voters in New Mexico, and potentially those in a handful of other states, the secret ballot is not so secret. It’s possible to learn the identities of voters and which candidates they supported by checking public records. Detailed election data, which lawmakers have demanded to help them with their campaigns and redistricting, often is the culprit.

    “It shocks the hell out of me,” Pankey said when an Associated Press reporter recently told her how she had voted and how that could be determined. She was the only person to cast an absentee ballot in her Santa Fe precinct.


  103. snowcrash
    104 | July 16, 2010 20:00

    @ snork:
    My first thought too, but now not so much. I have to leave her alone as I am reminded of some quote about why you shouldn’t wrestle with pigs in mud. LOL


  104. PENDAJO
    105 | July 16, 2010 20:00

    @ Rodan:

    The original post using Sharmutas’ alleged firt name was over the top.

    The sub post by Daedalus is just plain mean.

    Please delete my account


  105. 106 | July 16, 2010 20:01

    No Jail for Muslim Mom Who Strangled Daughter

    A judge’s decision to free a Canadian mother convicted of strangling her 14-year-old daughter with a head scarf has prompted growing outrage from victims’ advocates groups.

    A suspended sentence was given to Aset Magomadova, 40, by Court of Queen’s Bench Justice Sal LoVecchio on Thursday, stunning a national victims’ group based in Toronto, the Vancouver Sun reports.

    “I really strongly disagree,” said Joe Wamback, founder and chairman of the Canadian Crime Victims Foundation. “It sends a message to the rest of the community and the world that her daughter’s life was valueless.”

    Wamback continued, “Even though this girl may have been a handful and trouble, that’s not the issue. The issue is human life.”


  106. 107 | July 16, 2010 20:05

    PENDAJO wrote:

    Please delete my account

    This ain’t 1.0.

    Don’t like the way the blog is run? Then just don’t come here.

    Oh darn, free will and responsibility. Can’t have that.


  107. 108 | July 16, 2010 20:07

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    they better enact a Head Scarf Control Law.


  108. snowcrash
    109 | July 16, 2010 20:12

    @ PENDAJO:
    You have the right to protest. Go over and express your opinion. Please defend her as you feel fit. The DoD is where we are keeping the drama.


  109. snork
    110 | July 16, 2010 20:18

    PENDAJO wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    The original post using Sharmutas’ alleged firt name was over the top.

    The sub post by Daedalus is just plain mean.

    Please delete my account
    Bye!


  110. Speranza
    111 | July 16, 2010 20:32

    PENDAJO wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    The original post using Sharmutas’ alleged firt name was over the top.
    The sub post by Daedalus is just plain mean.
    Please delete my account

    Just leave, nobody will even know you are gone.


  111. snowcrash
    112 | July 16, 2010 20:38

    @ Speranza:
    Oh puhleez, they probably have a half dozen socks. LOL They aren’t going anywhere.


  112. 113 | July 16, 2010 20:40

    Speranza wrote:

    PENDAJO wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    The original post using Sharmutas’ alleged firt name was over the top.
    The sub post by Daedalus is just plain mean.
    Please delete my account

    Just leave, nobody will even know you are gone.

    More likely we will, the air will get less foul.


  113. 114 | July 16, 2010 20:49

    Grimcargo wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:
    @ Speranza:
    It was somewhat serendipitous, Speranza. I was nosing around Robert Stacy McCain’s site and I stumbled upon an article from about a year or so ago when Chuckles first went on his jihad against the “Neo Confederate” in which Medaura was implicated in the affair. I went to Commentary to see if she is still there and she is, she recently penned a screed against AB1070 that has gotten her in a blog feud with Peter Brimelow of VDARE. I went to her website to see what was up with that and in the recent comment section, lo and behold was a comment from the Sharmutant. I had forgetten that she and Medaura were tight.
    They waste their time trying to demonize confederates, tea party. All it does is reenforce and anger them. They can’t cause crap.

    <— is a secessionist, but not a racist…

    That makes the mobies' heads explode…


  114. 115 | July 16, 2010 20:51

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    PENDAJO wrote:
    @ Rodan:
    The original post using Sharmutas’ alleged firt name was over the top.
    The sub post by Daedalus is just plain mean.
    Please delete my account
    Just leave, nobody will even know you are gone.
    More likely we will, the air will get less foul.

    Sharmuta treated other people viciously at LGF.
    Medaura libels both the Serbs and conservatives.
    Both of them posted at LGF, whose owner respects the privacy of no one.
    Any sympathy for either of them could be better spent elsewhere.


  115. 116 | July 16, 2010 20:54

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    Ballot secrecy compromised in NM, other Western states
    SANTA FE, N.M. – Retired state worker Joyce Pankey cast her absentee ballot in New Mexico’s primary election last month thinking that she alone knew which of the candidates she favored.
    Wrong.
    For Pankey and hundreds of voters in New Mexico, and potentially those in a handful of other states, the secret ballot is not so secret. It’s possible to learn the identities of voters and which candidates they supported by checking public records. Detailed election data, which lawmakers have demanded to help them with their campaigns and redistricting, often is the culprit.
    “It shocks the hell out of me,” Pankey said when an Associated Press reporter recently told her how she had voted and how that could be determined. She was the only person to cast an absentee ballot in her Santa Fe precinct.

    Now, if we could only use those methods to find out who the dead voted for; who the convicted felons voted for; who the people who moved out of the district voted for; who the illegal aliens voted for…

    NOT joking!


  116. Philip_Daniel
    117 | July 16, 2010 20:55

    Again, another “Salafiyyah” site confirms what I have been saying for months on the totalitarian nature of Islam which cannot ever possibly deign to recognize any legal system other than the Shari’a as just and legitimate…


    “Supporting man-made legislation involves Haraam, Kufr and Shirk
    Allah (SWT) explained clearly the reason for mans existence “I have not created the jinn and mankind except for my worship” (adh Dhaariyaat 51:56) And this was only to be fulfilled by seeking the shari’ah judgement for all affairs and then applying those rules “But No by your Lord! They can have no belief until they make you a judge in all disputes between them and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions but accept them with full submission.” (an Nisaa’ 4:65) And Allah commanded us to constantly submit to Him (swt) “O you who believe! Fear Allah as He should be feared and die not except in a state of Islam (as muslims) with complete submission to Allah.” (aali-‘Imraan 3:102)

    When we say LA ILAHA ILLALLAH we are saying that there is no God worthy of worship except Allah. Meaning that there is no power to submit to except for ALLAH. To do this we must understand that there is nothing equal to Allah in any of His attributes. Allah has described Himself with at least ninety-nine names and attributes, if any body claims to have any of the attributes of Allah then this person has becomes a taghoot. Taghoot is anything that is worshipped other than Allah. So before we can claim to be muslims we must first reject taghoot as Allah (swt) says “There is no compulsion in deen. Verily, the right path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in taghoot and believes in Allah, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allah is the All-Hearer (Sami’) All-Knower (A’leem)” (al-Baqarah 2:256) “And verily We sent to every ummah (nation) a messenger (proclaiming): “Worship ALLAH and avoid (or keep away) from Taghoot (all false deities)” (an-Nahl 16:36)

    One of Allah (SWT)’s attributes is AL HAKIM meaning the only law-giver. So if anyone who legislates laws that are that are not from qur’an and sunnah, then this person becomes a taghoot as only Allah is AL HAKIM the One who legislates Law. There are many verses of the qur’an to prove that Allah (swt) is the only law giver “The hukm (legislation) is for none but Allah. He has commanded that you worship none but Him, that is the straight religion, but most men know not” (Yoosuf 12:40) and “And He makes none share in His decision and rule (hukm)” (Al-Kahf 18:26)

    These verses of the qur’an prove without doubt that only Allah has the right of making laws that should be followed by man. And we as muslims can not obey any Laws that have been legislated by other than ALLAH. “Or do they have partners with Allah to legislate for them in the deen what Allah does not allow” (ash Shoora 42:21) and “And eat not of that on which the name of Allah is not pronounced, for surely that is fisq (an act of disobedience). And verily the Shayaateen inspire their friends (from mankind) to argue with you. And if you obey them then you would indeed be mushrikoon” (Al-An’am 6:121)

    All these verses prove that if we take someone as a law giver besides Allah (SWT), then we would be guilty of committing major shirk with Allah. Now if a person is voting to elect a certain political party into power, which will implement kufr laws. Then not only is he recognising the taghoot, but he/she is giving the party the power to become the taghoot and to implement kufr. The following principles of a’qeedah and shari’ah prove the dalaalah (misguidance) of voting for man-made law:-

    1 The first part of the Shahaadah. ‘Laa ilaaha ill Allah’ means that there is no one who is to be worshipped or obeyed except Allah. This is tawheedul U’looheeyah. Anyone who Allah commanded to be obeyed this is in reality obeying Allah.

    2 The second part of the shahaadah. ‘Muhammadar Rasool Allah’ means that the risaalah (message) i.e. the shari’ah of Muhammad (saw) is the only valid shari’ah and his example is to be followed in implementing the commands of Allah.

    3 To reject Taaghoot. There is no Imaan for the one who has not first disbelieved and rejected that which contradicts imaan. “Whoever rejects Taaghhot and believes in Allah then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break…” (al Baqarah 2:256) and “Have you seen those who claim that they believe in that which has been sent down to you, and that which was sent down before you, and they wish to go to judgement to the taaghoot while they have been commanded to reject them. But Shaytaan wishes to lead them far astray.” (an Nisaa’ 4:60)

    4 Prohibition of Kuffaar having authority over Muslims Even if kuffaar used Islamic texts to extract their law, their authority over the believers would still be invalid and the believers would not be allowed to accept their authority, Allah (swt) says “…And never will Allah allow the disbelievers to have a way over the believers.” (an Nisaa’ 4:141)

    5 Shirk of Legislation (Shirkul Haakimeeyah). Whoever claims he can make law then this is shirk as only Allah does this and this is the basis of our relationship with Allah (swt) as slaves to be judged by their obedience to their Master (Al Maalik) “The Hukm is for none but Allah” (Yusuf 12:40)

    6 Shirk of Obedience (Shirkut Taa’ah) Every Muslim who prays says in the faatiha ‘iyyaaka na’budu wa iyyaaka nasta’een’ “You alone we worship (and obey) and you alone we seek help (through du’a and referring to the shari’ah solutions)” (al Faatiha 1:4)

    7 Kufr of Wilaayah (Allegiance with kuffaar) It was prohibited to give friendship, support and allegience to those who reject Islam and even more so those who openly oppose Islam and oppress Muslims. Whoever did this became a kaafir. “O you who believe! Take not the Jews and Christians as awliyaa’ they are awliyaa’ only to each other. And he among you that turns to them is of them…” (al Maai’dah 5:51) and “Give to the hypocrites the news that for them there is a painful torment. Those who take disbelievers for awliyaa’ instead of believers, do they seek i’zzah (honour, power) with them? Then verily, all the i’zzah belongs to Allah.” (an Nisaa’ 4:139) and “O you who believe! Take not for awliyaa’ disbelievers instead of believers. Do you wish to offer Allah a manifest proof against yourselves?” (an Nisaa’ 4:144)

    8 Shirk in the Names and Attributes of Allah. (Shirkul Asmaa was Sifaat) Allah is Al Haakim, Al Hakeem, Al A’leem (The All Knowing), Al Khabeer (The All Aware), Al Wakeel (The Disposer of Affairs), Al A’dil (The Just), Al Kaafi (The Sufficient), Al Malik (The King), An Naasir (The Helper), Al Waali (The Governor and Ally) So the one who turned to man in order to legislate for him and to guide him in lifes affairs in contradiction to tawheed has rejected many of the Names and Attributes of Allah and by this he entered into shirk with regards to these attributes so that he considered man made law more just than the law of Allah and did not consider the shari’ah as sufficient for legislation and guidance. Allah (swt) said “Most of them do not believe in Allah except that they join partners with Him” (Yoosuf 12:106) and “That He may punish the hypocrites men and women and the mushrik men and women those who have an evil opinion of Allah…” (al Fath 48:6) and “Surely Allah will not forgive the association of partners with Him, but He forgives less than that of whomever He wishes.” (an Nisaa’ 4:48)

    9 Opposing the minhaaj of Nabi (saw) Nabi (saw) united the Muslims under tawheed and fought against shirk verbally and physically and always governed by shari’ah, he never sought judgement from kuffaar in contradiction to the revelation. Allah (swt) says “And whoever contradicts and opposes the messenger after the right path has been shown clearly to him and follows a way other than that of the believers, We shall keep him in the path he has chosen and land him in Hell, what an evil destination.” (an Nisaa’ 4:115)

    10 Islam came to remove kufr. Every ayah of jihaad (over one hundred) and many other ayaat and ahadeeth proved that Islam came to remove all kufr not to support it. “And fight them until there is no more fitnah and the deen is all for Allah” (Al Anfaal 8:39)

    11 Prohibition of compromise. When the mushrikoon of the Quraysh sought Nabi (saw) to compromise the exclusive call to tawheed Nabi (saw) rejected their call and sooratul kaafiroon was revealed which gave the clear answer “Say: O you disbelievers! I worship not that which ye worship. Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship. Nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way and to me mine” (al Kaafiroon 109:1-6)and “And whoever seeks a deen other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him and in the hereafter he will be one of the losers.” (aali I’mraan 3:85) and “So obey not the deniers. They wish that you should compromise with them so they would compromise with you.” (al Qalam 68:8-9)

    12 The prohibition of gradual or partial implementation. Some tried to justify participation in kufr sysytems on the false basis of gradual change, but there is no gradualism in accepting Allah as the sovereign legislator in all affairs, inability to apply a command does not justify seeking contradictory judegement and applying contradictory laws. Allah said “O you who believe! Enter into submission completely and do not follow the footsteps of Shaytaan for he is an open enemy.” (al Baqarah 2:208) and “…Then is it only a part of the Book that ye believe in and do ye reject the rest? But what is the reward for those among you who behave like this but disgrace in this life? and on the Day of Judgment they shall be consigned to the most grievous penalty. For Allah is not unmindful of what ye do.” (al Baqarah 2:85)

    13 The prohibition of obeying kuffaar “And obey not the disbelievers and the hypocrites…” (al Ahzaab 33:48) and “And judge between them according to what Allah has revealed and do not follow their opinions and beware of them lest they confuse you in matters which Allah has revealed to you.” (al Maaidah 5:49) and “O you who believe! If you obey the kaafiroon they will drive you back on your heels and you will turn back (from Islam) to your own loss.” (aali I’mraan 3:149)

    14 The prohibition of obeying anyone accept in ma’roof. So even if the man-made laws had agreed outwardly with the shari’ah this still would have been munkar as its motivation and intention was not to please Allah and not to obey Allah but only to arrange affairs to please people, business groups, political parties and to receive a salary. However, the laws contradicted Islam in its belief and details, they contradicted the belief by declaring that man should legislate and decide his own way of life and to separate all religion from education, politics and society. In the details they made halaal alcohol, riba, pornography, abortion, fornication, adultery, homosexuality, public indecency etc. Nawaas bin Sama’aan that Nabi (saw) said “There is no obedience to the creation in disobedience to the Creator.” (BAGHAWI in ‘Sharhus Sunnah’ [10/44] AHMAD, AL HAAKIM) and A’li reported that Nabi (saw) said “…There is no obedience in disobedience to Allah. Obedience is in Ma’roof.” (MUSLIM kitaabul Imaarah [no.4536], BUKHAARI [Eng vers. Vol. 9 no.259])

    Therefore the following fall within the above prohibitions and
    aspects of shirk:-

    1 Voting for man made legislation
    2 Standing for election to legislate
    3 Membership of a party that is established to legislate
    4 Calling on people to support and vote for man-made legislation

    Whoever has performed any of these acts then they should repent to Allah and try to inform others who they have previously called to these errors.”

    Sunni Islam is nothing but a rotten echo-chamber — see the similarities between the above text and beloved mufassir ibn Kathir’s varieties of kufr


    Types of Kufr (Disbelief)
    Imaam ibn Katheer rahimahullaah
    Adapted from ‘Tafseer ibn Katheer’

    The following information was excerpted from the appendices to the English translation of TAFSEER IBN KATHEER.

    The Qur’aan uses the word Kufr to denote people who cover up or hide realities. The Qur’aan uses this word to identify those who denied Allaah’s favors by not accepting His Dominion and Authority. Kufr thus is an antonym for Iman or disbelief in Allaah and a Kaafir is a non-believer. This type of Kufr is called AL-KUFR UL AKBAR or major kufr. There are many types of Al-Kufr ul Akbar:

    1. Kufrul-’Inaad: Disbelief out of stubborness. This applies to someone who knows the truth and admits to knowing the truth and admits to knowing it with his tongue, but refuses to accept it and refrains from making a declaration. Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala says: Throw into Hell every stubborn disbeliever [Soorah Qaaf (50), Ayah 24]

    2. Kufrul-Inkaar: Disbelief out of denial. This applies to someone who denies with both heart and tongue. Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala says: They recognize the favors of Allaah, yet they deny them. Most of them are disbelievers. [Soorah Nahl (16), Ayah 83]

    3. Kufrul-Kibr: Disbelief out of arrogance and pride. The disbelief by the devils (Iblees) is an example of this type of Kufr.

    4. Kufrul-Juhood: Disbelief out of rejection.This applies to someone who aknowledges the truth in his heart, but rejects it with his tongue. This types of kufr is applicable to those who calls themselves Muslims but who reject any necessary and accepted norms of Islam such as Salaat and Zakat. Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala says: They denied them (OUR SIGNS) even though their hearts believed in them , out of spite and arrogance. [Soorah Naml (27), Ayah 14]

    5. Kufrul-Nifaaq: Disbelief out of hypocrisy.This applies to someone who pretends to be a believer but conceals his disbelief. Such a person is called a MUNAFIQ or hypocrite. Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala says: Verily the hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of Hell. You will find no one to help them. [Soorah An Nisaa (4), Ayah 145]

    6. Kufrul-Istihaal: Disbelief out of trying to make HARAM into HALAL. This applies to someone who accepts as lawful (Halal) that which Allaah has made unlawful (Haram) like alcohol or adultery.Only Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala has the prerogative to make things Halal and Haram and those who seek to interfere with His right are like rivals to Him and therefore fall outside the boundries of faith.

    7. Kufrul-Kurh: Disbelief out of detesting any of Allaah’s subhanahu wa ta’ala commands. Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala says: Perdition (destruction) has been consigned to those who disbelieve and He will render their actions void. This is because they are averse to that which Allaah has revealed so He has made their actions fruitless. [Soorah Muhammed (47), Ayah 8-9]

    8. Kufrul-Istihzaha: Disbelief due to mockery and derision. Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala says: Say: Was it at Allaah, His signs and His apostles that you were mocking? Make no excuses. You have disbelieved after you have believed. [Soorah Taubah (9), ayah 65-66]

    9. Kufrul-I’raadh: Disbelief due to avoidance. This applies to those who turn away and avoid the truth. Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala says: And who is more unjust than he who is reminded of his Lord’s signs but then turns away from them. Then he forgets what he has sent forward (for the Day of Judgement) [Soorah Kahf (18), Ayah 57]

    10. Kufrul-Istibdaal: Disbelief because of trying to substitute Allaah’s Laws. This could take the form of:

    (a) Rejection of Allaah’s law (Sharee’ah) without denying it

    (b) Denial of Allaah’s law and therefore rejecting it, or

    (c) Substituting Allaah’s laws with man-made laws. Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala says: Or have they partners with Allaah who have instituted for them a religion which Allaah has not allowed. [Soorah Shuraa(42), Ayah 8] Allaah subhanahu wa ta’ala says: Say not concerning that which your tongues put forth falsely (that) is lawful and this is forbidden so as to invent a lie against Allaah. Verily, those who invent a lie against Allaah will never prosper. [Soorah Nahl (16), Ayah 116]


  117. 118 | July 16, 2010 21:00

    snork wrote:

    I wish we had some politicians with as much fight in them as Andy Breitbart:
    “Let me say something a tad newsworthy to the president of the NAACP. You can go to hell. … I have tapes…tape of racism and it’s an NAACP dinner. You want to play with fire? I have evidence of racism and it’s coming from the NAACP.”

    Is Andy old enough to run for prezz?


  118. 119 | July 16, 2010 22:34

    Speranza wrote:

    PENDAJO wrote:
    @ Rodan:
    The original post using Sharmutas’ alleged firt name was over the top.
    The sub post by Daedalus is just plain mean.
    Please delete my account
    Just leave, nobody will even know you are gone.

    Yeah, really. Here’s 50 cents. Call someone who cares.


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