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In General Casey obscures the pellucid air of Aspen, Fitzgerald of Jihad Watch gets it almost completely right. After roundly condemning George Casey for his dhimmitude under the guise of “diversity,” he proceeds to question America’s entire vision of what we are up against. And rightly so:
Former Vice President Cheney famously said that this would be a “Long War.”
And now General Casey, and those behind and above him, say that at the very least, this war in Afghanistan alone may go on for another five or ten years. And hearing this, we may ask ourselves where else will this war, fought this way, be taken – will it go to Somalia, or to Yemen? Will these be the next Stations of the National Cross we are collectively made to bear, because those who rule over us do not know, and do not want to know, and may even not know that they do not know, what is necessary if a sensible policy of managing the war of self-defense against all those who take the duty and doctrine of Jihad seriously can be constructed and applied?
That war of self-defense is not a “Long War.” It is not a war that might go on for “five” or maybe “ten” more years, in Afghanistan or anywhere else, and then be over with.. It is a permanent war, a war without end, because the doctrine of Jihad is a permanent, and central, not tangential, part of Islam. The duty to engage, directly or indirectly, in Jihad – which should not be thought of only as involving terrorism or other forms of violence – does not disappear. It did not disappear in the century-and-a-half, from roughly 1800 to 1950, when Muslims were so obviously weak that those who wanted to engage in Jihad simply could not. But now things have unalterably changed: the OPEC trillions (more than 13 trillion dollars since 1973 alone to the Muslim members of OPEC), with more piling up every year, and the millions of Muslims foolishly allowed in, through the casually criminal negligence of political and media elites, to the countries of Western Europe. All this, and then the exploitation of Western technology that is useful in the dissemination of the message of Islam, both to Muslims (some of whom might heretofore have been unaware of the full message of Islam, but can remain so now only with difficulty) and to non-Muslims who might be seduced by the siren-song of whatever melody (e.g., “social justice”) that Muslims conducting Da’wa might wish to underhum.
Far from being “realistic” in their supposedly “glum” assessments, Cheney with his “Long War” and General Casey with his “five or ten more years in Afghanistan” are actually misleading themselves, and us. For they are refusing to grasp the nature of the war. They are thinking in terms that do not make sense. To wit: It might take us “five or ten years” to stamp out Al Qaeda, and the Taliban, in both its Afghani and Pakistani versions, and then, supposedly, we will have our “victory,” we will have “won.” But no “victory” in the conventional sense is possible. And there is to be no “winning” but only, rather, the minimizing of the threat and the conceivable damage, from Muslims. Why? Because there is no sell-by date to the doctrine and duty of Jihad. It goes on forever. And when anyone tells you, with a sober mien that is supposed to convey the message that “I’m not naïve, I’m a grim realist, I know this is going to be a long hard slog and it might take five years, ten years, twenty years, in Af-Pak and the Horn of Africa,” you should not think to yourself that at long last someone has dared to tell the truth, someone in authority is leveling with you…
Fitzgerald then pokes some well-deserved holes into the unalloyed madness and idiocy that passes for long-term strategy in Iraq and Afghanistan:
And a second part of the Aspen speech by George Casey also merits attention: “Casey highlighted job, education and economic growth as essential to success in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
This is what we are so drearily familiar with, the idea that we should do with Muslim lands what we did with the countries of Western Europe after World War II with the Marshall Plan (indeed, Al-Jaafari and others in Iraq have more than once called for a “New Marshall Plan” for Iraq, in which the United States taxpayers foot the bill; “Marshall Plan” is a phrase strangely familiar to many Arabs and Muslims). We have an official unemployment rate of nearly 10% in this country (and more, if one counts those who have given up looking for work, and still more, if one counts all the greatly under-employed). We have a collapsing educational system. We do not have economic growth. But Casey, and those for whom Casey also speaks, thinks that Americans should pay for “jobs and education and economic growth” in Iraq and Afghanistan. Never mind that Iraq has the second or possibly first largest reserves of oil in the world, and thanks to the United States had its entire debt of nearly $100 billion cancelled by the Western nations (but notice that the Arab creditors did not cancel what was owed to them), and will be raking in hundreds of billions. Never mind that “education” may make an enemy more formidable, not less, and if “education” never questions the teachings of Islam, but merely makes Muslims more dangerous because better educated, why is this something we should encourage?
After facing all of this horror head-on, Fitzgerald reaches a conclusion that is far rosier than his own evidence warrants:
Is there time for Obama to begin to see things differently, and to get rid of the brennans and bring on board the ship of state, now a dangerously listing Narrenschiff or S. S. Naufragium, others, less ignorant and less self-deceived? Yes. There is time. But only just.
No, there is no time, simply because Obama is not one of us; he is among our enemies. He sympathizes with the jihadis and he will continue to do everything he can to ensure that they win.
-1389AD
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We have been at war with Islam since 636 AD.
I’m sick of nation building when it comes to the muzz. Let the peace corps do that. Why should our valiant soldiers have to risk their lives trying to civilize these barbarians. Let the libs go and do the social work. Let the Lightworker himself lead his army of lefties into battle to enlighten the muzz.
Rodan wrote:
Yes. We are “guilty” of fitnah, of spreading fasaad, of assuming the title of al-Hakim (the legislator) which must only be reserved for Allah alone, and we in the process fabricate “unjust” laws which deviate from the only legitimate legal system, the Shari’a (Sha’a'ir Allah), and are thenceforth guilty of shirk al-hakimiyyah and kufr al-istibdaal, which are unforgivable trespassings against the will and power of Allah by his rebellious unsubmissive slaves (mushrikun and murtaddun) and thus constitute a provocation against Allah and his mu’minin, a casus belli which is enshrined in the canonical scriptures and exegetical texts of the deen.
Having said this, here’s a clip from El Cid which gets the point across without recourse to the Qur’an, Ahadith, or Tafsirun, or the chronicles of Muslim historians such as ibn Khaldun or ibn Batouta…
chickadee wrote:
Barry feels it is we in the West that need to be enlightened into the mercies and munificence that is Islam.
*SPIT*
Saw this on Ace … so true … sad but true ..
Hazy Crazy Days of An Obama Summer!!! … YES WE CPUSAcan …!!! … what? …
3 Hindu Girls raped and brutally tortured by Jihadis in West Bengal
How chivalrous and valiant of those ghuzat…how much like the Sunna of their beloved nabi (more like Nazi!)…
Philip_Daniel wrote:
When one worships a meteor encased in silver vulva lips, chivalry and valor tends to be defined a bit different than the rest of the world.
This a great thread, 1389AD.
Very enlightening.
Rodan wrote:
It’s gotta end at some point. It can’t possibly go on forever.
We need some William Byrd tonight…
Urban Infidel .. well, until the average citizen understand Sharia creep … I think we will be going at this for a long long time …
@ Philip_Daniel:
They can never make that into a movie again. Islam is beloved by hollywood.
@ Urban Infidel:
It will only end if we level Mecca and destroy the Kaaba. That will show then=m Allah isn’t helping them. Once they suffer a massive defeat, they will then realize they must respect the rest of humanity.
Rodan wrote:
Hollywood fears islam.
It hides is cowardice in denial, and attacking the messenger bearing the bad news about the so-called religion of peace
mccain hayworth debate live here
http://ondemand.azpm.org/live/
How about the war is over when we have utterly defeated our enemies?
@ Rodan:
You mean like this?
Urban Infidel wrote:
How’s the vacation going?
Philip_Daniel wrote:
“Uncovered meat invited this attack.” That is the muzz rational for such a hideous assault on innocent young girls.
How much longer can intelligent people give a pass to this monstrous doctrine of imperialism and domination? We need to call them out. Why wait? Why let them slither and sneak around gaining ground, using our good will and kindness to help them put the noose around our own throats.
@ Kirly:
I love it when Hayworth told him, if only he said the truth about Obama, like he’s lying about JD. McCain was caught right there.
Kirly … thanks for the link … wish I could vote in your election .. McCain needs to go … he did not fight against Obama .. when he took the microphone from that old lady and said Obama was good guy … that was it for me … but I had to still vote for his sorry ass against Obama .. but McCain needs to go …
@ Macker:
Yup we need to destroy their symbols.
JacksonTn wrote:
There was a time not long ago that Islam slept. It slept for a long while. Now we face it again. The main thing that is getting in the way is political correctness. We’re so tied up in knots worrying about hurting people’s feelings that we are biting ourselves in the ass. It could go on for a hundred years and more, but we can’t let that happent.
Rodan wrote:
According to the ahadith, this will be accomplished by an Abyssinian — another indicator of intrinsic anti-Africanism in Islam. It will be a harbinger of the “Hour of Resurrection”, according to canonical Islamic eschatology — of course, so will the oft-prophesied complete annihilation of Jews by Muslims be as well…
Thus, if we destroy the Ka’aba without sufficiently arming ourselves against the Saracen horde, count on another Holocaust committed by the rabid offspring of Mufti Hajj Amin al-Husseini and Sheikh al-Qassam, immediately, far far far far far worse than any violence now.
@ Rodan:
I wouldn’t count on that.
Allah is supposed to help them if they’re pious enough. They get their asses kicked by infidels on a regular basis. That doesn’t tell them what they were told was a lie. It tells them that they have to be even more pious believers.
Chickadee .. people who coddle islam and ignore the reality of Sharia rule are like people watching a dang horror movie thinking that in the end everything will be okay … fucking stupid idiots … if we don’t stop it now it will get ugly .. and I know I always keep bringing it up but … again … Sharia finance is the first step and we have to stop it … they are gaining ground even in flyover and red states … but finally I think some are getting the message … I believe in the right to freedom of religion (hate that I even have to qualify that) but there is a difference between right to religion and control of the country … they will not stop until they have control … we have to think in the long term as they do … they are patient … most Americans are more instant gratification types (sadly) and do not see the long term …
Macker wrote:
Only if it ends like this…
I’m on vacation right now in a cabin up in Deer Isle, Maine. A small lobster fishing island. So’s the Golfer in Chief who is not far away in Bar Harbor. So good to finally get to get out of the city and away from all… those… libs….or at least so I thought.
Check out this snapshot I took in town today.
@ Rodan:
They’ve been talking remake since 2002, but the disasters of other historical epics (heavy on revisionism, ie Kingdom of Heaven) has kept Hollywood afraid of backing it.
George Casey is an incompetent fool who along with Ricardo Sanchez screwed up the first campaign in the Iraq war.
Urban Infidel wrote:
So how do you counter something like this?
People shoot the messenger because they are too afraid to hear the message.
Hahahaha … McCain in the debate said 12 million illegals … he wishes … fucker … he is backstepping so bad … he endorsed the crap he did … he owns it …
MrPaulRevere wrote:
Ricardo Sanchez I agree was a major league incompetent – he was the Ambrose Burnside of the Iraq War.
Guess where the “riots” (the ghazwat committed by Muslim immigrants) in France are taking place…
In Grenoble, a Burgundian city conquered by the Saracens of Fraxinet (a fortress in Provence which extended its authority over vast areas of Provence, Savoy, Piedmont, Liguria, Burgundy, and Helvetia in the 9th-10th centuries) from 945-965 (the reconquista being led by the Bishop of Grenoble, Isarn).
They (the so-called mu’minin, that is) have very long memories and the will to act upon them, unlike the effete West and her dhimmi Regressives…
@ Speranza:
Any list of “who fucked up Iraq” has to include Bremer.
Lost I don’t quite understand your question to me …
Urban Infidel … I love Maine (well not their representatives) but I did a bike tour once through VT and Maine and Bar Harbour and Acadia National Forest was great and the lobster … geez .. don’t even make me think about that … I ate so much lobster … heaven ..
Real Simple McCain Debate Drinking Game Rules:
Everyone takes a drink when McCain says:
• “Facts are stubborn things.”
• “My Friends.”
• “There you go again.”
Thanks to The Osprey!
@ Speranza:
If incompetents and mediocrities like this are listened to and promoted we are indeed in deep feces.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
Burnside, Bragg, Butler, Sigel, Fremont, – the Civil War had a shitload of incompetent commanders.
@ JacksonTn:
I had a lobster last night, a lobster roll today for lunch and a gorgeous plate of haddock fish n’ chips. I love this place. The people are so nice and friendly, it’s pristine old New England. American flags on nearly every porch and front yard. We’re coming back up here next month for another week. It’s like heaven. I feel like I’m in the United States. NYC doesn’t really feel like that all the time.
@ lobo91:
Yup he should of never disbanded the Iraq Army and he treated the occupation as a social experiment.
Rodan wrote:
I caught that line. Loved it!
Urban Infidel wrote:
Quite concur!
@ Urban Infidel:
NYC doesn’t really feel like that all the time.
Nope it’s rapidly becoming an Islamic occupied city with Dhimmis like Bloomberg assisting them.
Point taken and its a good one. Casey should be given the gold watch and sent on his way.
@ Speranza:
Yup it’s exactly what we have been saying. McCain fights only Conservatives.
Can someone tell me why McCain still wants to be a senator? Why do these people want to do this for life? Enough already … retire … not just him … but I don’t understand why people (Biden) do this for life … we need new blood in this country …
I meant for dinner tonight. Man, if I keep that up I’ll really put the pounds. Did I mention the homemade fudge?
Obama’s outreach!
Iran’s Revolutionary Guards warn US
Rodan wrote:
Because he is a heart a progressive who treasures the good opinion of The New York Times.
@ JacksonTn:
Ego.
@ Speranza:
Yup hence he calls them his friends.
@ Urban Infidel:
Hey, that’s a thread tomorrow ~:) We were full up today!
Listening to the McCain debate … blah blah blah .. same shit from him .. he has to go … I hope the people of Arizona vote him out .. NOW … his message if nothing new he has no new ideas … NOTHING ..
@ Urban Infidel:
I think photos of this moron on vacation in Bar Harbor will be the death knell of his efforts to win a 2nd term as potus. If he had any sensitivity and compassion, the first family would be showing solidarity with the Gulf Coast citizens and be vacationing there. To see him enjoying himself in such an exclusive setting shows just what an elitist pos selfish bastard that he is.
It also shows his complete failure to understand the basics in human behavior. The goodwill he could have gotten by going down to the Gulf can not be purchased with all the money in the world.
He is a fool.
@ JacksonTn:
If we don’t, we’ll be stuck with him until he dies.
Rimshot … McCain is an Obama enabler … yes … why yes he is!!! …
Rodan wrote:
It’s still the terrorist’s bulls-eye number one. Bloomberg has turned it into a toxic playground for the elites and hoardes to live like veal calves. A Nanny Super State where you are taxed into the poor house. What used to be really cool about NYC doesn’t exist anymore. It’s last hurrah was the late 50s and early 60s. In the 70s everything went downhill.
Chickadee .. since he could not come to his claim to fame as a video star … he decided President was the best option .. Hey! .. he is living the JayZ lifestyle and loving it … G4 … blah … he has Air Force One …. success!!! …
@ Urban Infidel:
Yeah it’s even a different place from what it was under Rudy. I was there 2 years ago and cried seeing the Islamic presence.
The jet fighters are still circling. I can hear them. I can’t wait until this clown leaves Maine. God bless our military! Whomever is flying that aircraft is a better person than the Enemy in Chief will ever hope to be.
Urban Infidel wrote:
I love old fashioned home made fudge. I love the peanut butter and the chocolate.
I am getting a headache listening to McCain …
Sleepy John Estes and Hammie Nixon ..
Someday Baby Blues … going down slow …
@ Lost:
They spit on freedom. You counter it by never being afraid of the truth.
JacksonTn wrote:
He’s like Nero or a white trash pos that won the lottery and by God ain’t nobody gonna stop him enjoin’ whats his.
I am really hating on the 52%’ers at this moment.
@ chickadee:
We got it at Perry’s Nut House. The website is a little slick and doesn’t show the folksy wooden store with all the great candy and stuff inside. It’s adorable. A kid’s dream come true.
@ Speranza:
It’s such an international city that it feels like Manhattan is simply an island between Europe and the U.S.
I have lost a good friend recently talking about creep of Sharia in this country and the so-called “moderate” muslims not speaking out or marching in support of our country … he is best friends with a man who is muslim … a person who wrote a very popular book and movie about his childhood in a muslim country … and we have just decided to disagree about this topic … I will give up a friend to keep exposing Sharia for what it is and for calling out muslims in this country who enjoy what our country has allowed them to achieve … so I said to him … so in the end they will side with the muslims .. if push comes to shove because that is what it looks like to me … the other day he told me this person built a McMasion in CA from the profits of his book and movie … so I say when does he say America helped him achieve this? … nothing .. he said his friend said Islam is a new religion and it is still making it’s way … fuck that shit … I say you are an idiot … and my friend is a doctor and a very educated man … but still a bleeding heart liberal … so he goes into the column with my niece and her professor husband who just will not get it and I am tired of talking about it to them … we agree to disagree …
@ Urban Infidel:
Yup, I saw how it has changed.
JacksonTn wrote:
This “Muslim” is nothing but a murtadd — an apostate — because he has apparently forsaken the central doctrine of al-wala’a wa’l-bara’a (i.e., love for the fellow Muslim and hatred for the kaffir foe); he has specifically rejected the following four aspects of al-wala’a wa’l bara’a…
OT … a friend gave me a kitten yesterday that he found and it is probably only a couple of weeks old … the eyes are open but I am feeding it goats milk with a dropper … but this is my question … the kitten does not go to the bathroom except to pee … how do I get the dang kitten to do that .. I saw on a website where you use a washcloth and simulate a mother cat washing them but it is not working … I am taking it to vet Monday .. I hope the kitten survives … blah .. wish he had not asked me to rescue this kitten … but it is so cute … I am scared it is going to die … I ain’t telling him if it does …
Phillip .. your links to not work for me …
@ JacksonTn:
I’m not sure goat’s milk is the right thing to feed a kitten. They actually make kitten milk replacement (formula, basically). I’ve seen it at PetsMart.
This website seems to have good information.
Yes, good article. Islam is our implacable enemy. There is no mixing of light and darkness. All this blather about moderate Islam, or not all Muslims are Jihadists is useless hand-waving to try and dispel all the smoke coming at you from a raging forest fire just over the hill.
Stop relating this about individual Muslims here and there, start realizing it is a multi-pronged invasion, some are spies, some are soft troops, eventually paving the way for the Mosque-builders and the Sharia law demands. It has worked this way since the 7th century. Islam is a system of conquest, and it wants to conquer you and all you stand for, no matter if you want to fight Islam or not, it has its intent set, it is SATANIC!
Once again it is not about individual Muslims, some I am sure are nice people that basically want to live and let live that has never been the point, such people will be used or outright killed by the drivers and true believers of Islam. But they serve as the porters, the money makers to fund the system. This system is NOT human derived, that is why its intent stays the same over centuries, its goal never changes.
People have to accept evil is real and it is directed by agents that are not human, they work through humanity. Go back and see how Islam started, the claims of Mohamed that an angel transmitted this knowledge and system to him. This happens over and over in history, men sometimes claiming visitation by angels, sometimes in drug-induced trances write down or deliver revelations that are pure evil, think of Mein Kampf, or Communist Manifesto.
Mohamed got his revelation in a cave while in a demonically induced trance. WAKE UP PEOPLE…not most of you guys, but Western Civilization!
68. JacksonTn
You’re better off cutting contact with the fool. His pedigree is irrelevant.
I had a discussion with a german colleague just after Belsan and he dismissed the whole thing as a politcal action (mass murdering children apparently was ok) and when I asked, “when I pack of muslims do the same in this country what will your answer be?” He lapsed into silence.
Macker wrote:
The real reason McLaim needs to go is contained within these links.
@ Jehu:
up ding
chickadee wrote:
Thank you!
It came up when my husband and I were out eating pizza, so I missed most of the discussion, but that’s okay.
JacksonTn wrote:
You have to get a moist cotton ball or q-tip and wipe its anus after you feed it. Without this stimulation, it will not be able to defecate. As yucky as it sounds, that’s what the mommy cat does.
@ Jehu:
3.8 TRILLION UPDINGS!
1389 … okay I am going in … blah … the kitten is going to hate me …
JacksonTn wrote:
Sounds like your friend knows the man who wrote “The Kite Runner” I’ve read it and enjoyed it. I felt the whole thing faltered at the end. Turns out the author was asked to change the ending by the book agent. Apparently Americans only want happy endings. So, while the author is very talented, he has misrepresented the reality to his readers.
The wonderful Melanie Phillips has a review of a book called “The Flight of the Intellectuals” by Paul Berman. It completely exposes Tariq Ramadan and his adoring Western followers. Great stuff. It will get here eventually and I’ll buy it. Buying anti-Jihad books is a hobby of mine, even if I’m not going to read them. Heck. It’s not like people are clamoring to borrow them either.
JacksonTn wrote:
Probably not, lol… you’re just doing what a mommy cat does. When I raised a kitten that was premature and too weak to feed from his mommy, I used an eyedropper with canned KMR (a brand name for kitten milk replacer) – as with human babies, you can keep unused formula in the refrigerator, but you have to warm it to approximately body temperature before giving it to the kitten. If the kitten and/or the food is not warm enough, the kitten can’t digest it.
Get a postal scale or a food scale. You need to weigh the kitty every day to make sure he is gaining. If not, he’s getting dehydrated and may be in serious danger.
Philip_Daniel wrote:
We’re waiting for your history article on the reconquista of France!
JacksonTn wrote:
Mea culpa. Here’s the correct link.
Mujahidism on Facebook…
Philip_Daniel wrote:
Mea culpa again. Here we go.
1389AD wrote:
It’s forthcoming! “From the Conquest of Septimania by the Umayyads to the liberation of Sardinia by the Pisans and Genoese”
Philip_Daniel wrote:
That’s what I call revanchism.
1389AD wrote:
Or irredentism (which carries slightly different connotations).
On another related note…
Sismondi de Sismondi, “Histoire des Republiques Italiennes au Mojren age,” Tome I.
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