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Nazi Salutes at the Turkish Embassy

by 1389AD ( 54 Comments › )
Filed under Anti-semitism, Bosnia, Hamas, Israel, Kosovo, Serbia, Turkey, World War II at July 26th, 2010 - 4:30 pm

Here we go again…

Once again, we are seeing a link between a Muslim-majority nation and Nazi aggression. The Albanian Muslims profited from their Nazi ties to begin expropriating the Serbs in Kosovo. And the Nazi Alija Izetbegovic later became the first Muslim president, or perhaps warlord, of Bosnia & Hercegovina.

This time it’s Turkey. The vast majority of the population of Turkey is Muslim, even though Turkey is, by law, a secular state, at least for the time being.

Jihad Watch reports: “Clear off, Zionist dogs” painted on 1,700-year-old church in Turkey:

The offenders allegedly defaced the stone walls of the church on Monday with various slogans, such as “Clear off, bastards,” “Clear off, Zionist dogs,” “Heretics, lay off,” and “Zionist powers, clear off,” in Turkish and, “Allah u Muhammed,” and “Prophet Muhammad, fight the infidels and hypocrites,” in Arabic.

In addition, Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood have been very busy in Turkey radicalizing Muslims and stirring up anti-Semitism as well as enmity against Israel. The most recent upshot of that was Turkey’s involvement in staging the Gaza flotilla.

From 1389AD’s mailbox:

Subject: TURKISH EMBASSY HITLER SALUTE ON JULY 20, 2010
From: Cyprus Action Network of America
To: 1389

Dear 1389,

Please publish and write about the following two links about the TURKISH EMBASSY HITLER SALUTE ON JULY 20, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaM2Ns4THxc
(Look for Gunay Evinch in the background)

Thank you.

--Nikolaos Taneris, Press Officer, Cyprus Action Network of America (CANA)

TURKISH EMBASSY HITLER SALUTE ON JULY 20, 2010

For Immediate Release: July 21, 2010
Contact: Nikolaos Taneris, New York, Tel (917) 699-9935

NEW YORK—The Cyprus Action Network of America (CANA) demonstrated against the Turkish Embassy in Washington DC on July 20th, 2010 for the entire business day, to mark the 36-year anniversary of the illegal Turkish invasion of Cyprus that began on July 20, 1974. Greek-Cypriot demonstrators from the DC area and from as far away as Florida and New York participated. The Greek-Cypriot demonstration was helped by Armenian community supporters, (whose people are an integral part of Cyprus ) and suffer from the ongoing illegal Turkish-military-occupation, and by pro-Israel activists. The Greek-Cypriot demonstration applauded American celebrity Jennifer Lopez’s “NO” to Turkish terrorism. Protest slogans emphasized the Turkish Crimes against the Greek-Cypriot people and the brutality of the illegal Turkish invasion, and ongoing illegal Turkish military-occupation.

Many diplomats and journalists took pictures and videos of the demonstration, and diplomatic staff from the nearby Embassies of India, Japan and South Korea voiced their admiration of our commitment to justice and human rights by asking for our flyers and information about the Turkish Crimes committed in Cyprus.

GUNAY EVINCH AND THE TURKISH EMBASSY HITLER YOUTH

A counter demonstration was staged and closely supervised by Gunay Evinch, of the law firm Evinch and Saltzman. Gunay Evinch is widely acknowledged as “the lawyer of the Turkish Embassy.” Gunay Evinch has defended Turkey from American lawsuits by Greek-Cypriot Americans, he is the President of the Turkish Lobby. Gunay Evinch is a promoter of Armenian genocide denial within the United States and the source of Turkish invasion of Cyprus denial propaganda for Turkey in America.

The main speaker for the Turkish Embassy counter demonstrators (who was witnessed as receiving help and consulted with Gunay Evinch) repeatedly made the Hitler salute and shouted “Heil Hitler” towards pro-Israel activists and the Greek-Cypriot community. The Turkish Embassy staff also participated and helped GUNAY EVINCH AND THE TURKISH EMBASSY HITLER YOUTH who also barked out to the Greek-Cypriot community “Turkish soldiers raped your mothers” and further committed hate crimes against women by making obscene gestures with his genitalia and his megaphone. The Cyprus Action Network of America (CANA) will be releasing the pictures and videos of GUNAY EVINCH and his Turkish Hitler Youth making the Hitler salute to Jewish Anti-Semitism watch groups and to the Israeli and German government which monitors such hate speech and hate gestures and enforces heavy criminal penalities for glorifying Hitler:

PLEASE DISTRIBUTE THE FOLLOWING YOUTUBES AND PICTURE WIDELY:

YouTube: Turkish Embassy Hitler Salute on July 20, 2010
(Look for Gunay Evinch in the background)

YouTube: Turkish Embassy Celebrates Rapes of Greek-Cypriot Women
(Look for Gunay Evinch in the background)

YouTube: Turkish Embassy Genitalia Gestures
(Look for Gunay Evinch in the background)

Click for high-resolution picture of Gunay Evinch directing his Turkish Embassy Hitler Youth
Gunay Evinch directing his Turkish Embassy Hitler Youth

Jewish-American writer and political commentator Daniel Pipes (who has been in communication with CANA) published a FASCINATING and commendable Op-Ed on July 20, 2010 in the Washington Times about the Turkish invasion of “Greek land” in Cyprus, and the Jennifer Lopez cancellation of her performance in Turkish-Occupied Cyprus. We republish it below.

The videos of the Turkish Embassy Hitler Salute should not at all be surprising, the Hitler book “Mein Kampf” is a runaway bestseller in Turkey, and Turkey has strong ties with anti-Semitic terrorist organizations such as Hamas (classified by the US government as a terrorist organization) The wildly popular anti-Semitic “Valley of the Wolves” movie and television series in Turkey falsely claims that Jews and Americans “harvest organs” from Muslims in Iraq.

In remembrance of July 20th the Cyprus Action Network of America (CANA) salutes all defenders of human rights, and the struggle and resilence of the survivor people of the nation of Israel and the survivor Greek-Cypriot people.

Click HERE to read the rest.

Now here’s a thought:

Greek-Cypriots: We Need a Defense Cooperation Agreement with Israel

So hopefully Israel, Greece and Cyprus are learning a lesson that never should have needed learning, because of its painful obviousness. Now that all three find themselves “betrayed” by the Muslim world, they can try working together rather than against one another while trying to win over the Muslim and Arab world.


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  1. 1 | July 26, 2010 4:35 pm

    Clear off, Zionist dogs” painted on 1,700-year-old church in Turkey:

    Shows how they don’t view “Zionists” or Christians as different. We are all Kuffar!


  2. m
    2 | July 26, 2010 4:38 pm

    Girl ain’t playin with the linkage!


  3. 3 | July 26, 2010 4:41 pm

    @ m:

    Nope, Turks are scum. I raised with that and nothing they have done disproves it.


  4. 4 | July 26, 2010 4:42 pm

    On the last thread I posted a video and not one acknowledgement. What I thought was something relevant. Am I ***invisible here if I am I can be more invisible.


  5. m
    5 | July 26, 2010 4:45 pm

    @ Grimcargo:

    Musta missed it. What was it?

    (1389 don’t shoot… but I gotta hit the road soon and I want to post these)

    Barbara Boxer Get Stupid Again-Being in Congress is Just Like Serving in Military

    Pentagon Eyes Accused Analyst Over WikiLeaks Data


  6. 6 | July 26, 2010 4:49 pm

    Btw 1389 really great post. It’s kind of like what Pamela has been saying. Good to bring more light to it.

    M never mind. you weren’t on that thread.


  7. 7 | July 26, 2010 4:50 pm

    All of this anti-Semitism, Jew hate clearly in the Bible and indicates the time just before God judges their miserable asses. Can’t wait. Almost like they are taunting God and sticking their asses up at Him…yeah your time is coming, sure as this was all written and seen thousands of years ago.


  8. yenta-fada
    8 | July 26, 2010 4:57 pm

    Grimcargo wrote:

    On the last thread I posted a video and not one acknowledgement. What I thought was something relevant. Am I ***invisible here if I am I can be more invisible.

    Well, it was painful to watch that video. I feel invisible here too, (when I’m not feeling like a “furriner Canadian” who is supposed to put up with crap) Also, people wander in and out or look at threads after the fact. I guess we all need feedback, but rarely get the good kind. Happens in meatspace too.


  9. 9 | July 26, 2010 4:58 pm

    @ Grimcargo:

    What video was it? I was on an doff so I missed it.


  10. lobo91
    10 | July 26, 2010 5:05 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Grimcargo:
    What video was it? I was on an doff so I missed it.

    It was the one with Shirley Sherrod’s husband.


  11. 11 | July 26, 2010 5:10 pm

    Secular Turkey, Ataturk’s Turkey, is almost gone and when it goes it aint comming back. The reason for Turkey’s slide back into Islam is that Rumelian Turkey , the European leaning, pro western area, has been outbred by Anatolian Turkey, the eastern, rural, traditionalist, Islamic Turkey.


  12. buzzsawmonkey
    12 | July 26, 2010 5:10 pm

    Grimcargo wrote:

    On the last thread I posted a video and not one acknowledgement. What I thought was something relevant. Am I ***invisible here if I am I can be more invisible.

    If you mean the Sherrod video, it was discussed somewhat in the thread before last. Worthy of revisiting, in my opinion, in that it shows that Sherrod remains mired in the anti-white mindset of Stokely Carmichael’s SNCC, of which he was a member—and it bolsters the negative impression made by Shirley Sherrod when she started making similar statements in racist terms after she was semi-vindicated by the full video.


  13. mjazz
    13 | July 26, 2010 5:10 pm

    I don’t think that ponytail would go over too big in the mohammedan countries. (Unless he wanted to be some sheik’s girly-boy for the night.)


  14. citizen_q
    14 | July 26, 2010 5:12 pm

    islam like absolute power eventually corrupts absolutely.


  15. BuddyG
    15 | July 26, 2010 5:16 pm

    Mmmmmmmmm Turkey

    /NSFW


  16. chickadee
    16 | July 26, 2010 5:30 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Clear off, Zionist dogs” painted on 1,700-year-old church in Turkey:

    Shows how they don’t view “Zionists” or Christians as different. We are all Kuffar!

    That’s interesting, isn’t it? How they are just lashing out indiscriminately, in anger.
    The church looks like an archaeological ruin. It is a pity that islam is such a nasty hateful screed, they can’t appreciate the importance of history. Look how the fcking animals destroyed the Buddhist Statues in Afghanistan. They were considered a world treasure. They had been there for centuries.
    Islam is a barbarian scourge.


  17. 17 | July 26, 2010 5:41 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    Islam is a barbarian scourge.

    Yes, that is the appropriate view of them. Everywhere they go they destroy and degrade civilization. They are like a bloody cancer on the face of the planet. We’ve beaten them back, some, from their violent aims at the United States. For now, at any rate. Bush’s flypaper strategy in Iraq was a resounding success, killing ten of thousands of Jihadis (I’ve never seen an official number) on battlefields far from America. Obama is probably going to fuck up Afghanistan, though, so the Mohammedan cancer will reach out towards us again, it is only a matter of time. Meanwhile, here at home, the Mohammedans have become more aggressive in pushing their special place in American society. There’s starting to be pushback, though. People were really not amused by the Mosque at Ground Zero. That was offensive to all Americans who havent sold out to the Muzz or the Progs (or both). I reckon it is now a dead letter, due to the public’s outrage, as it should be. It was a provocation that it would have been understandible had Americans taken matters into their own hand about.


  18. buzzsawmonkey
    18 | July 26, 2010 5:45 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Meanwhile, here at home, the Mohammedans have become more aggressive in pushing their special place in American society.

    “Human rights,” folks; special privileges from the government, over and above the rights common to every citizen.

    The Islamists studied the gay-rights movement, and learned well from it, adopting both the human-rights line of attack and the “-ophobia” suffix which has served the gay-rights movement so well.

    Given that the adherents of the gay-rights movement the Islamists have so assiduously copied would be first in line for brutal repression if the Islamists get their way, one could see in this a metaphor for the way Islam has appropriated things in the past from other societies, and then repressed the societies that produced what they appropriated.


  19. NoThreat2U
    19 | July 26, 2010 5:55 pm

    Another topic in which my understanding is sadly lacking *sigh* Looking forward to learning more about it though.


  20. chickadee
    20 | July 26, 2010 5:56 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    chickadee wrote:

    Islam is a barbarian scourge.

    Yes, that is the appropriate view of them. Everywhere they go they destroy and degrade civilization. They are like a bloody cancer on the face of the planet. We’ve beaten them back, some, from their violent aims at the United States. For now, at any rate. Bush’s flypaper strategy in Iraq was a resounding success, killing ten of thousands of Jihadis (I’ve never seen an official number) on battlefields far from America. Obama is probably going to fuck up Afghanistan, though, so the Mohammedan cancer will reach out towards us again, it is only a matter of time. Meanwhile, here at home, the Mohammedans have become more aggressive in pushing their special place in American society. There’s starting to be pushback, though. People were really not amused by the Mosque at Ground Zero. That was offensive to all Americans who havent sold out to the Muzz or the Progs (or both). I reckon it is now a dead letter, due to the public’s outrage, as it should be. It was a provocation that it would have been understandible had Americans taken matters into their own hand about.

    Everywhere in the world you look and see murder and mayhem going on, it is most often the muzz causing the problems. Persecuting the minorities in their midst, abusing women, agitating against civilization.
    In countries where the muzz are just getting started and trying to expand their presence, they are relentlessly pushing and demanding their “rights.” The very rights they would never grant to others where they dominate the culture.

    Where there are muzz there is no peace and harmony.
    There can never be peace when hate is the foundation of the screed.


  21. vapig
    21 | July 26, 2010 6:01 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    chickadee wrote:
    Islam is a barbarian scourge.
    Yes, that is the appropriate view of them. Everywhere they go they destroy and degrade civilization. They are like a bloody cancer on the face of the planet. We’ve beaten them back, some, from their violent aims at the United States. For now, at any rate. Bush’s flypaper strategy in Iraq was a resounding success, killing ten of thousands of Jihadis (I’ve never seen an official number) on battlefields far from America. Obama is probably going to fuck up Afghanistan, though, so the Mohammedan cancer will reach out towards us again, it is only a matter of time. Meanwhile, here at home, the Mohammedans have become more aggressive in pushing their special place in American society. There’s starting to be pushback, though. People were really not amused by the Mosque at Ground Zero. That was offensive to all Americans who havent sold out to the Muzz or the Progs (or both). I reckon it is now a dead letter, due to the public’s outrage, as it should be. It was a provocation that it would have been understandible had Americans taken matters into their own hand about.

    I haven’t heard it’s a dead letter issue. Sounds like Bloomberg is planning on going forward full steam ahead. Must celebrate diversity, ya know! The guys a jerk!


  22. Speranza
    22 | July 26, 2010 6:10 pm

    Very sad and foolish – that the Greeks for so many years were anti Israel and quite often anti Semitic.


  23. 23 | July 26, 2010 6:13 pm

    @ vapig:

    From what I heard, the Catholic Church that had been going to sell the Mohammedans the land for their insult thought better of it after the public outcry. Bloomberg has nothing to do with the decision. That oxygen-thief no doubts wants the Mohammedans’ Arc de Triumph built in time for them to ululate on 11 Sep 2011, but that isn’t going to happen. Ask Rodan about it. I heard it from him.


  24. Speranza
    24 | July 26, 2010 6:19 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ vapig:
    From what I heard, the Catholic Church that had been going to sell the Mohammedans the land for their insult thought better of it after the public outcry. Bloomberg has nothing to do with the decision. That oxygen-thief no doubts wants the Mohammedans’ Arc de Triumph built in time for them to ululate on 11 Sep 2011, but that isn’t going to happen. Ask Rodan about it. I heard it from him.

    Nanny Bloomberg is too busy counting how many calories you ingest.


  25. buzzsawmonkey
    25 | July 26, 2010 6:21 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    From what I heard, the Catholic Church that had been going to sell the Mohammedans the land for their insult thought better of it after the public outcry. Bloomberg has nothing to do with the decision. That oxygen-thief no doubts wants the Mohammedans’ Arc de Triumph built in time for them to ululate on 11 Sep 2011, but that isn’t going to happen. Ask Rodan about it. I heard it from him.

    No. Different project. The Church that backed out of selling land for a mosque did so on Staten Island, not at Ground Zero.

    The Ground Zero mosque is not being built on land purchased from a church, and it is still moving forward.


  26. 26 | July 26, 2010 6:24 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    Another topic in which my understanding is sadly lacking *sigh* Looking forward to learning more about it though.

    Better to understand how little you actually do know about a subject than to act all superior and have no need to know or learn more. The latter is something the Progressives have down pat.


  27. Philip_Daniel
    27 | July 26, 2010 6:24 pm

    Somebody may say: ‘Do you want to deny freedom to people?’ We say to him: ‘If what is meant by freedom is to disbelieve in God’s religion, or the freedom of infidelity and apostasy, then that freedom is abolished and we do not recognize it; we even call for its eradication, and we strive to oppress it. We declare that publicly and in daylight.

    Dr. Taha Jabir, “The Islamic Society” (April 17, 1984, p. 26)

    Item 18 of the International Declaration of Human Rights states that each individual has the full right to change his faith or to relinquish it as he wishes in order to protect the freedom of thought and the freedom of belief. We wonder if this freedom of changing one’s faith would be conducive to harm him along with others? Or even if the purpose of changing the faith is to sow the seeds of riots and spread viciousness in the land or to waver the faith from the hearts of others?

    Dr. Ahmad, “Individual Guarantees in Islamic Law” (pp. 15-16)

    The apostate is not only the person who relinquishes Islam and embraces another religion, but the symptoms of apostasy are many, and those who practice them are regarded as infidels and apostate and deserve to be killed. The symptoms of apostasy are: when the ruler does not govern by God’s law (most of the Muslim rulers do that), or when the ruler derides some aspect of the religion or one of the Islamic laws as the ex-president of Egypt, al-Sadat, did when he said that the dress of the Muslim women is like a tent.

    Another symptom of apostasy is that a Muslim believes in the Qur’an only and rejects tradition; namely, the sayings and deeds of Muhammad (the Sunnahh) and attacks the apostle Muhammad by any insult or criticism of the Qur’an. Also among the symptoms of apostasy is the promotion of mottoes which may contradict the Qur’an, such as the mottoes of nationalism, patriotism, and humanism! Anyone who calls for these mottoes is regarded as an infidel and an apostate and deserves to be killed if he does not repent. Also, anyone who believes in Masonianism.

    al-Tahrir (The Muslim Youth in New York), “The Symptoms of Apostasy in the Islamic Society” (p. 15, February 5th 1983)

    They brought an old man to ‘Ali who was originally a Christian, then embraced Islam, and later reconverted to Christianity. ‘Ali told him: ‘Maybe you apostatized to Christianity in order to acquire an inheritance, and after that you would come back to Islam.’ The (old man) said: ‘No.’ ‘Ali asked him: ‘Maybe you apostate to Christianity in order to get married to a Christian girl and after that you would return to Islam.’ The old man said: ‘No.’ ‘Ali told him: ‘Then, re-embrace Islam.’ The old man said: ‘No, not before I meet Christ.’ ‘Ali ordered him (to be killed). They beheaded him.

    ibn Hazm, “The Sweetened” (al-Muhalla), pp. 190

    Fisq, linguistically, coming forth from, and in the Sharee’ah departing from the obedience of Allah. It comprises the total departure from obeying Allah which is applicable to the infidel, and it comprises partial departure of obedience which is imputed to a believer who commits a major sin. Fisq is of two categories,
    a. Which constitutes apostasy, i.e. infidelity; in that case a Kafir is called Fasiq, as Allah called Iblees saying: “And disobeyed (Fasaqa) the command of his Rabb.” [Soorah al-Kahf (18): 50]
    This type of Fisq on the part of Iblees constituted infidelity. And Allah says: “And for those who are disobedient (Fasaqu), their abode will be the Fire.” [Soorah as-Sajdah (32): 20]
    Allah meant the infidels by ‘disobedient’ as indicated by His (next) Words: “Whenever they want to come out of it (the Fire) they will be turned back into it, and it will be said to them, ‘Taste the punishment of the Fire which you used to deny.” [Soorah as-Sajda (32): 20]

    Exegetes interpreted the term ‘fusuq’ as acts of disobedience.” [The book of Eemaan by Shaikh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah, p.278]
    3. Dhalal (Deviation): Straying from the right way or course which is antonym of guidance. Allah, the Exalted, says: “He who follows the right way follows it only for his own benefit, and he who deviates, deviates only to his own loss.” [Soorah al-Isra (17): 15]
    Dhalal comprises numerous meanings:
    a. At times, it refers to infidelity, as indicated by the words of Allah, the Exalted: “And who so disbelieves in Allah and His angels, and His Books, and His Messengers, and the Last Day, has surely strayed far away.” [Soorah an-Nisa (4): 136]
    b. At times, it refers to Shirk as indicated by words of Allah, the Exalted: “And whosoever ascribes anything as partner to Allah has indeed strayed far away.” [Soorah an-Nisa (4): 116]
    c. At times, it refers to mistakes as in the case of Moosa, whom Allah saved from evil. Moosa said: “I did do it then, and I was one of the erring.” [Soorah ash-Shorah (26): 20]
    d. At times, it refers to opposition which is less than infidelity, as in the case of the deviant sects, that is; the sects that oppose Ahl as-Sunnah.
    e. At times, it refers to forgetfulness, as stated by Allah respecting female witnesses: “In case one of them forgets then the other may remind her.” [Soorah al-Baqarah (2): 282]
    f. It also refers to lost item, or lost things just as it is said a stray camel.
    4. Riddah: Its Types and Ruling
    Linguistically, returning, as indicated in the words of Allah, the Exalted: “And do not (Taraddu) return back.” [Soorah al-Maidah (5): 21]
    That is, do not revert to infidelity, while Riddah in judicial terminology is apostasy after Islam. Allah, the Exalted, says: “And anyone of you who reverts (Yartadid) from his Deen and dies as an infidel, it is those whose good deeds shall be vain in this world and in the world to come. These are inmates of the Fire, wherein they shall live forever.” [Soorah al-Baqarah (2): 217]
    Its Types: Apostasy may take effect by the commission of one of the numerous invalidators of Islam, that they may be summed up in four types:
    1: Verbal apostasy, such as reviling Allah, the Exalted, or His Messenger (salallahu alaihe wa-sallam). His angels or any of His Messengers. Or by claiming knowledge of the unseen world, or Prophet hood or believing the claims of such people. Or appealing for help from other than Allah for things that only Allah can do, or seeking refuge with other than Allah.
    2: Practical apostasy, such as prostrating before an idol, a stone, a grave, or making offering to them, or by casting the Book of Allah in filthy places, practicing sorcery, learning, or teaching it, or ruling by other than the laws of Allah, and deeming that action is lawful.
    3: Doctrinal apostasy, such as believing that Allah has a partner or believing that fornication, consumption of liquor or usury are lawful. Or believing that eating bread is unlawful, or the Salaat is not obligatory or other things whose legitimacy or lawfulness, prohibition or incumbency are unanimously and decisively agreed upon, or commonly known as such.
    4. Doubtfulness apostasy, to doubt the illegality of ascribing partners to Allah, prohibition or fornication or consumption of liquor or the lawfulness of consuming bread, or having doubts respecting the Message of the Prophet (salallahu alaihe wa-sallam), or the Message of other Prophets, or suspecting the veracity of the Prophet (salallahu alaihe wa-sallam), or Islam, or doubting the validity of Islam in this age.
    Rulings of Apostasy
    1. Repentance of the apostate: If he repents and returns to Islam within three days, it should be accepted from him and he should be left alone.
    2. If he refuses to repent, he must be executed, according to the statement of the Prophet (salallahu alaihe wa-sallam): “He who reverts from his deen, then kill him.” [Saheeh al-Bukharee and Abu Dawood]
    3. During the period of respite, he should be barred from handling his own property. If he repents, his property remains his, otherwise it belongs to the treasury, from the moment of his death or execution. It is also said that the moment he apostatizes his property should be spent in causes that serve the Muslim’s interest.
    4. Apostasy debars from inheritance; neither an apostate inherits from his relatives, nor they from him.
    5. If an apostate dies, or if he is executed, neither a bath no Janazah (funeral) prayer should be given to him, nor should he be buried in Muslim cemeteries, rather in infidel’s cemeteries, or anywhere other than Muslim’s cemeteries.

    http://www.qsep.com/modules.php?name=aqtawhid&file=article&sid=7


  28. NoThreat2U
    28 | July 26, 2010 6:26 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    I freely admit that my education of world affairs is lacking. When I see all the whacked out things going on in the world, I am flabbergasted. What makes Turkey think they have a right to part of Cyprus? I looked it up on Wiki…it says that only Turkey recognizes it’s authority. No one else feels it is legitimate.

    End the illegal occupation of Cyprus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


  29. buzzsawmonkey
    29 | July 26, 2010 6:29 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    What makes Turkey think they have a right to part of Cyprus?

    Maybe they think they inherited it under the cy pres doctrine.


  30. 30 | July 26, 2010 6:30 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    The mooslims ruthlessly appropriated and exploited everything they could wrest from conquered people and nations. The sole reason undiscerning people think mooslims have a history of scientific inquiry is due to their expansion out of the deserts of the Arabian peninsula, dragging stolen knowledge with them.


  31. NoThreat2U
    31 | July 26, 2010 6:31 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Now THAT was interesting.


  32. 32 | July 26, 2010 6:33 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:
    You learned something new today, something you previously had no knowledge of. Be proud of that accomplishment. :)

    I will stop learning 3 days after I start my dirt nap.


  33. 33 | July 26, 2010 6:34 pm

    @ Philip_Daniel:
    “Oh, bury me not, in a mooslim grave.”

    Ok, so I ain’t no buzzsawmonkey. ;)


  34. NoThreat2U
    34 | July 26, 2010 6:38 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    My family calls me a nerd. I tell them I would rather be a nerd than a dumbass.

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    You get an “A” for effort ;)


  35. 35 | July 26, 2010 6:40 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    My family calls me a nerd. I tell them I would rather be a nerd than a dumbass.

    I’ve been called a dweeb, geek, nerd, doofus, four-eyes, bookworm, and a host of other names some might consider to be uncomplimentary. The only thing I object to being called is late for dinner. ;)


  36. snork
    36 | July 26, 2010 6:43 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    That was a different site. That was in Staten Island. But yes, the Church told them to hit the road.


  37. buzzsawmonkey
    37 | July 26, 2010 6:45 pm

    @ snork:

    Bloomberg will support the Ground Zero Mosque as long as they promise not to serve transfats in the cafeteria.


  38. 38 | July 26, 2010 6:49 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Bloomberg is a Tranzi fathead. He’ll be lucky if the jihadis don’t serve him his head on a platter when they get shariah law enacted.


  39. NoThreat2U
    39 | July 26, 2010 6:49 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    Oh I am quite the bookworm ;) I have heard dork and dweeb a few times too. lol


  40. NoThreat2U
    40 | July 26, 2010 6:50 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Bloomberg is a Tranzi fathead. He’ll be lucky if the jihadis don’t serve him his head on a platter when they get shariah law enacted.

    OK, That whole comment just made me laugh. lol


  41. The Osprey
    41 | July 26, 2010 6:51 pm

    funny how every little runt-ass country in the UN that whines about Israel’s “occupation of de Balestinian land” does not carry one whit about the Turkish occupation of Cyprus.

    But why do the Greeks dislike Israel so? You would think they could make common cause against the muzzies.


  42. 42 | July 26, 2010 6:53 pm

    Migrants sell up, flee Arizona ahead of crackdown

    PHOENIX, July 25 (Reuters) – Nicaraguan mother Lorena Aguilar hawks a television set and a few clothes on the baking sidewalk outside her west Phoenix apartment block.

    A few paces up the street, her undocumented Mexican neighbor Wendi Villasenor touts a kitchen table, some chairs and a few dishes as her family scrambles to get out of Arizona ahead of a looming crackdown on illegal immigrants.

    “Everyone is selling up the little they have and leaving,” said Villasenor, 31, who is headed for Pennsylvania. “We have no alternative. They have us cornered.”

    The two women are among scores of illegal immigrant families across Phoenix hauling the contents of their homes into the yard this weekend as they rush to sell up and get out before the state law takes effect on Thursday.

    The law, the toughest imposed by any U.S. state to curb illegal immigration, seeks to drive more than 400,000 undocumented day laborers, landscapers, house cleaners, chambermaids and other workers out of Arizona, which borders Mexico.


  43. NoThreat2U
    43 | July 26, 2010 6:55 pm

    @ The Osprey:
    Most people probably don’t even know about the occupation of Cyprus. Maybe it is time to get it some coverage.


  44. NoThreat2U
    44 | July 26, 2010 6:56 pm

    @ The Osprey:
    Also, I am 42 years old and don’t know much about it. People even younger than me probably know even less. Sad.


  45. 45 | July 26, 2010 7:02 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ The Osprey:
    Also, I am 42 years old and don’t know much about it. People even younger than me probably know even less. Sad.

    There are lots of people older than you that not only know less than you do, they don’t care that they don’t know. These are the people who know intimate details of the lives of celebrities, or other equally worthless American pop culture, the people who read a book simply because Oprah recommended it.


  46. Philip_Daniel
    46 | July 26, 2010 7:06 pm

    FurryOldGuyJeans wrote:

    @ Philip_Daniel:
    “Oh, bury me not, in a mooslim grave.”
    Ok, so I ain’t no buzzsawmonkey.

    Some ulema contend that in the case of a dhimmi having committed “blasphemy”, the following hudud, (not the killing part, which is nearly universally-acknowledged, but the method of body disposal) is permissible for the individual Muslim to undertake…

    If a Jew or a Christian reviles Muhammad he is beheaded. In an (sic) An Nawadir (footnote 1: A book by Ibn Abi Zayd, author of the Risala) from the version of Sahnum from Malik, we find that any Jew or Christian who reviles the Prophet in any other than normal way by which the Jews and Christians reject him is beheaded unless he becomes a Muslim. If a Christian reviles Muhammad kill him and let the dog eat his corpse. Abu’l Mus’ab said, “A Christian was brought to me who said, “By the One who chose ‘isa over Muhammad.’ There was a dispute about him before me. So I beat him until I killed him, or he lived for a day and a night. I commanded someone to drag him by the feet and throw him into a dung heap and the dogs ate him.”

    ash-Shifa of Qadi ‘Iyad, p. 411


  47. buzzsawmonkey
    47 | July 26, 2010 7:15 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    But why do the Greeks dislike Israel so? You would think they could make common cause against the muzzies.

    Good question, for which I have no answer. A friend I’ve known for some 20 years, who is part Greek but very committed to avoiding prejudice (though not judgment), and who is of Greek descent, once said to me that Greeks are, in her experience, among the most antisemitic of Europeans. She had no explanation for this, either.

    It is my understanding that the Greeks—even the anti-Nazi partisans—were fairly ready to cooperate with the Nazis in rounding up Jews, but this is merely an historical fact, not an explanation. Perhaps it has to do with hostilities dating back to the Jewish Maccabean revolt against the Seleucid Greek remnants of Alexander’s empire, and the Jewish hostility to the pre-Christian Greek culture of the time. Certainly the Jews had no use for the idols the Greeks worshipped, and the blood libel actually originated with the pagan Greeks, not the Christians, although the Christians did pick it up. Perhaps it has to do with economic competition going back to the ancient world, as the Greeks and Jews were both merchants; perhaps it has roots in the theology of the Greek Orthodox church; perhaps some of all of these.


  48. NoThreat2U
    48 | July 26, 2010 7:16 pm

    @ FurryOldGuyJeans:
    That is a really sad state to be in. I don’t like being clueless as to what is happening around me. How can I decide what side I am on if I don’t understand what is happening. Stupid is no way to go through life.


  49. NoThreat2U
    49 | July 26, 2010 7:17 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    FFS time to get over it then.


  50. Philip_Daniel
    50 | July 26, 2010 7:19 pm

    Atilla ’74: the rape of Cyprus

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8259503203978535843#

    Michalis Cacoyiannis’ documentary film ‘Attila ’74: the rape of Cyprus’ was made in the immediate aftermath of the Greek junta/EOKA B coup against President Makarios and the barbaric Turkish invasion of Cyprus. Cacoyiannis’ film concentrates on the conspiracy to bring down the Republic of Cyprus and the effects of the invasion, the tragedy of the refugees and the missing persons. The film is in English and Greek, with subtitles as appropriate. Attila, for those who don’t know, was the codename (appropriately) given to the operation to invade Cyprus by the Turkish armed forces. See also: http://hellenicantidote.blogspot.com/


  51. 51 | July 26, 2010 8:09 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I have an explanation given to me by a Greek friend. The reason there is anti-semitism has to do with various. The main explanation is that Jews where seen as lackeys of the Ottoman Turks. They were treated better by the Turks, than Greeks were. Hostility developed as they where viewed as part of the oppressors. That is one explanation I heard.


  52. Philip_Daniel
    52 | July 26, 2010 8:44 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    The main explanation is that Jews where seen as lackeys of the Ottoman Turks. They were treated better by the Turks, than Greeks were.

    Not true.

    The Mussulmans deeply deplore the loss of that sort of superiority [in the aftermath of the passing of the Tanzimat reforms in the mid-19th century] which they all & individually exercised over…the other sects…a Mussulman..believes…that a Christian — and still more a Jew — is an inferior being to himself.

    British envoy to the Ottoman Levant, John Bowring

    Whereas in former times…the communities were ranked…the Muslims first, then the Greeks, then the Armenians, then the Jews, now all…were…on the same level. Some Greeks objected…saying: “The government has put us together with the Jews. We were content with the supremacy of Islam.”

    Cevdet Pasha, in 1865, following the passage of the 1856 Hatti-i-Humayoun

    In 1758, Mustafa III, walking incognito through the streets of Constantinople, had a Jew beheaded for wearing clothes forbidden to dimam


  53. Philip_Daniel
    53 | July 26, 2010 8:48 pm

    Oh, also…

    The Jewish community…paid the jizya at rates somewhat higher than the [Greek] Orthodox.

    Amnon Cohen, “On the Realities of the Millet System: Jerusalem in the 16th century,” in B Braude and B Lewis, Christians and Jews in the Ottoman Empire (New York: Holmes & Meier 1982), p 14.

    In Cairo, no Christian and no Jew can show himself mounted on a horse. They only ride donkeys and must get off as soon as they encounter an Egyptian, even the least important. The Egyptians never go about except on a horse, preceded by an insolent servant who, armed with a big club, warns the man on the donkey to show the obligatory marks of respect for his master, by crying out: “Infidel, get off!…”

    Carsten Niebuhr, Travels through Arabia and Other Countries in the East, vol. I (Edinburgh 1792), pp 81-82, quoted by Yahudiya Masriya [= Bat Ye'or], Les Juifs en Egypte (Geneva: Editions de l’Avenir, 1971), pp 29-30.


  54. 54 | July 26, 2010 11:58 pm

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