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It’s a house. It’s a very ugly house. It’s a very ugly house created for a competition by people who have no concept of aesthetics, let alone standard construction practices. Here’s a partial description justifying the brilliance of the design:
DISTRIBUTED INTELLIGENCE
Faced with the typical house model of a “box construction” made up of standard industrialized components, we chose to build a clever house with systemic logic components, rising into what we call a distributed intelligence. This means that each component of the prototype contains the same level of technology, energy, structural, etc… With this we say that the logic of all is found in each of the parts, and not vice versa.
That is, distributed intelligence can be understood as the development in fusion research systems and materials, implying a change of procedures, multi functionality in the construction field. Opening the possiblities of digital parametric design from the traditional assembly of standardized industrial components of the home-computer.
In other words, they’ve not only designed one of the ugliest dwellings ever imagined, they’ve invented a brand new lexicon to justify it. Archibabble at its worst. Phew.
To be fair, the design is clever in one respect, that the shape was generated based upon solar tracking, that is, a computer model engineered a shape that maximizes the amount of surface area that receives direct sunlight throughout the day and throughout the year, thus determining the configuration of the solar panels. WIN.
Unfortunately, the maximum efficiency is compromised by site orientation, its global latitude, and, um, unpredictable cloud cover. And it’s ugly. FAIL.
Since this was previously posted here, it’s only fair and proper to have an Overnight Open Thread. WIN!
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Tags: amateur, architecture, competition, computer aided design, Global Warming, housing, Open thread, ugly
My motorhome is far better than this.
I like it. It is so odd looking. Like a bug or an animal without a head.
I hope it is in a desert type environment because it looks like a heavy rain would buckle the wood and the roof would leak. I hate roofs that leak. You are always tripping over half full buckets of water.
I don’t like it. The first strong wind will litter pieces of it all over the landscape.
That’s beyond ugly, it’s…transformationally hideous.
So this is what you get when you put a perfectly good set of house plans into a industrial size Bull Shit Generator.
It’s either a giant pill bug, or a space freighter from Zebulon VI.
I love this comment from the site:
Aha – “distributing intelligence” translates to ‘designed by a lib with a cocoon fixation’.
Ain’t no butterfly going to be coming out of that – just your plain everyday birkenstock eva-granola vegetarian lib.
Blech.
@ chickadee:
I like it. It is so odd looking.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
That there’s a bumper sticker, with multiple applications!
@ chickadee:
It’s in Catalonia, so it’s a Mediterranean climate. Wasn’t Gaudi from Catalonia…he built the Sagrada Familia Catherdral in Barcelona, which is another building that people either love or hate.
Bump:
Bagua wrote:
Yes, oil and gas seeps are a natural phenomenon and we can only guess at their extent. The ocean has several mechanisms by which the oil is degraded. As with many substances, the dose makes the poison. A natural seep, far from shore, is rapidly digested and degraded. A large leak close to shore, can coat the estuaries and beeches raising havoc with the ecology and causing a media frenzy.
Inchworm.
That whole SoCal coastal area has a lot of oil that seeps. The oil is not very deep there…then there are the La Brea tar pits…and Chuckasaurus Johnsonii, the Blogger That Time Forgot.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
It’s just so goofy. It makes me smile. Someone thought that up.
lol
It’s the Trojan Eclair…
@ The Osprey:
Yes Gaudi was Catalan. The Name Cataluna actually comes from Gothalunya, meaning land of the Goths. That why many Catalan have names like Gaudi or Godoy. It means Goth.
@ Rodan:
The Visigoths settles heavily in Catalonia, Aragon and Valencia.
Very odd looking house – it seems like it might tip over.
ot but…
have heard this song alot but just found the vid
awesome
Iron Fist wrote:
LOL Good one!
It looks like an armadillo.
There are so many things wrong with the design that are glossed over by the designers. The basic purpose of any building is to provide shelter. Sure, this would do it, but I bet it starts leaking within 10 years. Just imagine what you gotta do to repair the leaks.
In a rain, all the water flows, but there’s not a drip line that I can see to keep water off of the plywood underside. That wood will rot, and plywood is known for delaminating under wet or damp conditions.
The other claim is that the house may be built anywhere. True, but this design depends on a link between a computer and a fabrication plant, and the availability of plywood. Since most of the framing and sheathing is curved, that makes for inefficient transportation as well.
Etc. etc.
If I wanted to build in the middle of nowhere, I’d design it using local materials and technology capability, and not because a big ‘ol turd on the computer screen impressed some design jury inexperienced in historical design, construction and functional maintenance.
I’d love to be on one of those jury panels, just to laugh.
With the glass turrets on top of the cigar shape, it reminded me of an old WW2 propeller driven bomber. It’s Rorschach test material I suppose.
@ The Osprey:
A surface spill, such as have occurred in the Persian Gulf is far more problematic. At, or near the surface, the oil forms a slick and spreads far and wide. The evaporation of the more volatile molecules has less of a chance to occur before delicate tidal areas are saturated. Surface wells and tanker leaks, and shallow water leaks are thus very different.
By the time oil from the MC252 leak made it to the surface through a mile of sea-water, it was already well mixed with water, leaving ribbons of emulsified globs and less of a slick on the surface. The dispersant, and the action of the gas coming out of solution accelerated this.
@ Bunk X:
Are we sure that this provides shelter? One end of the building seems to be open to the elements.
If we threw that monstrosity into the Gulf of México I wonder how much oil it would soak up before it sank and was eaten by bacteria?
@ Eliana:
Spain is an odd county, I know I’m 1/4!
We are a contradictory people. We love to fight, then write poems. We love to drink, then we love to go pray to the God. We are complex ancient people!
GGMac wrote:
And it’s got a built-in wind tunnel, too! A nice gust will turn it into a blimp for a few seconds.
rain of lead wrote:
I love it.
chickadee wrote:
I like odd and unusual, but it’s not practical. Water buffalo might mistake it for a large female, and then you’d have to replace the front door every rutting season.
It is definitely proof that the bad ideas of Frank Lloyd Wrong are still with us and will persist for quite some time into the future.
@ Bagua:
Interesting stuff, please go on…
@ Bunk X:
Good thinking. Now all we have to do is gather a group of ‘special’ moonbats who deserve a blimp-ride!
Up, up and awaaaay….
It’s come to this: They are re-fighting the Vietnam war at you know where.
@ Rodan:
LOL, I’m the only one who likes it. I know it’s going to leak. I’d shingle it with cedar and then it would look like a shaggy buffalo. And I’d make my friends stay in it when they came to visit.
@ Bunk X:
When I ran residential appliance service, I went to several houses that were carved into the sides of hills, they were really impressive and functional.
@ chickadee:
It is sort of cute inside.
Rodan wrote:
You have a lot in common with Serbs!
Eliana wrote:
You’re just being nice. lol
Seriously, I’d take it any day over a McMansion.
btw: a coprolite is a fossilized poop ball.
Rodan wrote:
Cough cough… Or maybe ya’ll just been out in the sun a tad bit more than was good for ya..
@ Eliana:
See I’m complex. My Spaniard side is where I get my Ruthlessness, devotion, Love of Country (USA) and musical side. My Lebanese side is where I get my hot temper and anger, yes even Christian Arabs have that
! My Sicilian side is where I get my deviousness. My Puerto Rican side is where I get my humor and laughter.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
ROTFLMAO… And I bet they manage to loose it twice as fast this time…
@ Da_Beerfreak:
Exactly. When I was in college we were taught Archibabble, too. We had to justify the massing with the paradigm of aesthetical fenestration such that the enhancement of the environs equaled or exceeded the intrinsic concepts of the parameters.
@ doriangrey:
Our roots go back to our Roman ancestors who built their first city in Hispania in 235 BC.
Rodan wrote:
Yea, well my Irish side is what is known as “Black Irish” I’ll give ya two guesses what that means and the first three dont count…
chickadee wrote:
I think archaeologists try to use those to determine what dinosaurs and so forth typically ate.
wow
juan williams is on for bill orielly and he is talking to bernie goldberg
JW- but he has passed all these things…
BG- his poll numbers are sliding because he is passing things the american people don’t want.
JW OH! it’s not the “message”… it’s the substance!
(unspoken… they hate his ideas, not his skin color…that can’t be right!)
1389AD wrote:
And humans too. This is a whole field of study. You can be an expert in ancient poop.
chickadee wrote:
Relatively light. In this case, I believe about 45% percent was able to evaporate at the surface, this can go as high as 75% with very light crude. Much like a tanker spilling gasoline.
The heavy bit that survives the trip to the surface and several days or weeks of sunlight, wind and waves at the surface is the component of heavier tar. This is far slower to decompose, but also less problematic than raw crude.
@ Rodan:
Cool!
@ doriangrey:
Black Irish are descended from the Spanish, Italian and Portuguese sailors who crashed on Irish shores during the Armada’s return to Spain.
Rodan wrote:
Sup cous….
@ Eliana:
Kibbe with Salsa, not hummus here! Shish Kabob with an Empanada on the side here!
MrPaulRevere wrote:
Thanks. (And apologies to those bored by my posts)
@ doriangrey:
I know the deal, that’s why some Irish Last names are Spanish sounding!
Hence why you play Guitars! That’s the Spaniard in you!
Rodan wrote:
Odd thing to is just how pronounced the Spanish comes out in my guitar playing. It’s one of the things most people notice right away when they hear me play live.
@ chickadee:
The oil component of the leak is not quite light sweet, and certainly not pure light sweet. Nor is it heavy crude oil. Rather, right in between.
While heavier than light sweet, it is sufficiently light that the in the warm gulf waters a fair amount is indeed evaporating. But note that my 45% number is probably fairly high and only a ball park guess.
@ Bagua:
It’s not boring and we look forward towards your guest post.
@ doriangrey:
When I was in Spain, I saw a flamenco Guitar player and dancer. It was awesome!
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
Bull Shit Generator
Rodan wrote:
Ditto that. I don’t mean to pry Bagua, but you seem very well informed on this topic, you must have some formal education or credentials.
@ rain of lead:
Great song I loved it!
@ Bagua:
Not boring at all – you’re expanding our knowledge, and that’s great!
Bagua wrote:
You can be sure that the zero cabal is studying this situation and trying to figure out how to make themselves look good. They are not sure if they are happy or sad that the oil is dissipating.
That house kinda looks like a capsized ship of the line.
The Osprey wrote:
Gaudi was a genius in the way he engineered the Sagrada Familia Cathedral. 50 years ago it would have taken many complex calculations by many engineers with slide rules. Today we have computer programs to make complex curved structures stable. Gaudi did it with strings and sandbags in the late 1800s with his Funicular Model.
@ Rodan:
Cheers. Part one is nearly complete. Are there any guidelines for the maximum length of a single post?
MrPaulRevere wrote:
As I mentioned at the sister blog, I worked one season for Roto-Rooter, making me at least as qualified as the BP engineers.*
*(Interpretation for those who are unfamiliar with my style: I let my posts speak for themselves with no claims to expertise.)
@ Bagua:
No, Unless you to break it down into 2 parts. That’s your call. but no limits.
@ doriangrey:
Do you play classical at all? Do you have anything on You Tube? I’d like to hear you play.
Spanish guitar is amazing. In 1958 a date took me to see Andres Segovia at Town Hall in New York. Just himself – sitting on a cushioned piano bench. He played a piece by Villalobos (sp?), and at the end he stood and raised his arm to a box – and there was the composer himself! What an outstanding evening that was.
@ Rodan:
And don’t forget the Spanish influence here in Louisiana…
well, this should put a smile on ya’ll’s faces
Incumbent Democratic Senator Russ Feingold, one of the most leftist members of the United States Senate has officially fallen behind in his quest for another term. This is bad news for Feingold for several reasons. One, it’s not usually good to be seen as behind as an incumbent. Second, his polling is steadily under 50%, showing deep dissatisfaction in his job performance. Third, he is behind Ron Johnson, who is basically unknown in the state. As Johnson is able to attack more and Feingold is forced on the defensive and to explain his record, his poll numbers may fall further. This is one of the toss-up races within the Senate races this year.
http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.com/2010/07/feingold-falls-behind-in-wi-senate-race.html
Lily wrote:
Yes, there’s a Spanish community there along the coast. Many intermarried with the Cajuns, hence that’s’ why Cajun Cuisine is close to Spanish/Latin American food.
@ Bagua:
Not being one who confuses education with knowledge, you do a great job and you have a talent for making the complex understandable.
Rodan wrote:
I studied some flamenco in college, heavy use of the Dorian and Phrygian modes, sounds very cool when played just right. Imagine a cross between Al Di Meola and Eddie Van Halen…
GGMac wrote:
Have you tried clicking my NIC??
@ Bagua:
I think I speak for a lot of folks who simply want someone to explain what really happened without a political narrative included.
Bagua wrote:
The media frenzy caused almost as much financial damage to the states adjacent to the gulf as hurricane Katrina did.
@ doriangrey:
Acoustic guitar is fun to play and fun to hear.
Check out Joscho Stephan
If the wind was blowing right while it was raining it would blow water right under those blue panels.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
Cheers for that! Being correct and being informative are often very different things indeed.
doriangrey wrote:
Aha – thank you. Heading on over there right now!
The Osprey wrote:
Have you been to The The Tar Tar pits? Cool museum. Lotsa sabertooth cat skulls and stuff.
Goodnight all!
Rodan wrote:
Not only that the architecture they brought with them is mixed in with the cajun style too..The Louisiana architecture here is very interesting.
Also the Spanish war dogs they brought with them here mated with the Louisiana
dogs …….which is called now a curr …best damn dog there is.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
My preference exactly. And being free from heckling by those with a political agenda to oppose me makes it easier to concentrate on the actual data and science.
@ mjazz:
Also, one end of the house is totally open.
There are stairs going up inside.
There’s no shelter from the elements on that side.
Bunk X wrote:
@ Rodan:
Goodnight Rodan!
oops:
I meant to reply:
That is a fascinating comparison, as the financial impact of the media frenzy and the moratorium have already far exceeded the impact of the actual spill. An accounting would be fascinating.
@ mjazz:
I thought they were for roofing, but I guess not, probably solar water heaters. i wonder if they used Thompson’s Water Seal™ on the plywood.
@ Bagua:
Be glad that you left the cult. Not only are they re-fighting Vietnam now, they have thrown WW2 into the mix.
mjazz wrote:
Liberals with their collective heads up each others asses, somehow it wouldnt surprise me if they forgot a hell of a lot more than that.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
And of course not a damned one of them has ever so much as been in a genuine fist fight, but they are all experts on how wars should be fought.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
What exactly are they doing or shall I say, saying?
@ Lily:
Hang on…
@ doriangrey:
Hey dorian….not only that they have not even read any history on it..only the talking points in news..and maybe not even that.
Eliana wrote:
No, it’s buttoned up for now, but the bird and beeholes in the ground floor level look like trouble, too. Check out the link.
I caught this cheap shot at Bagua for starters:
@ Eliana:
The thing with the window open is probably the kitchen. If you look close it looks like a door to the right at the top of the steps. It’s more like a porch. From this photo it looks like there’s a door
I can’t figure out if the bathroom has a door or not, and Iguess the shower is behind glass or something?
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
I think that’s exactly what LA Gov. Jindal proposed, but he needed five of them. This one is just a prototype, and because the manufacturing of it is so complicated, he opted for barges and sand bags instead.
Lily wrote:
Which they clearly didnt understand if they did…
MrPaulRevere wrote:
I have never spoken especially highly of Delingpole, and surely never identified him as a favourite or even as being on my reading list. Fancy that. As I recall I informed Freetoken of that error the last time he made that claim and I had the right of direct response.
GGMac wrote:
“Quickly! Storm’s coming! Everybody take a hit of this!”
MrPaulRevere wrote:
Check out Coober Pedy. They did it right.
doriangrey wrote:
I agree with you there. Arm-chaired warriors. Maybe they did some warrioring on an X-Box….that would be it.
Bagua wrote:
The mere fact that they were making stuff up out of imaginary cloth has never stopped the residents of the BVoAF from, well you know, making shit up…
@ Bagua:
Freetoken is trash, one of CJ’s premiere slander merchants. He/she led the attack on poster Zombie…as far as the WW2 discussion over there goes, it’s standard soft leftist boilerplate, the USSR really won the war etc…
@ Bagua:
They are going to smear you no matter what. It is what they do.
Not all…but many.
Lily wrote:
It used to be not all, but those with any degree of decency were long since set free and moved on to greener pastures.
chickadee wrote:
Really?
huh, who knew?
Egyptian Journalist Describes ‘Absolute Prosperity’ in Gaza
With Hamas telling tales of deprivation and suffering in Gaza, Egyptian journalist Ashraf Abu al-Houl has added his report to others who were surprised to discover a “prosperous” Gaza in which prices are low and luxury businesses are booming. Al-Houl’s story of his trip to Gaza and his realization that “in actual terms, Gaza is not under siege” was written up in the Egyptian daily Al-Ahram and translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI).
“A sense of absolute prosperity prevails, as manifested by the grand resorts along and near Gaza’s coast. Further, the site of the merchandise and luxuries filling the Gaza shops amazed me,” he reported.
Concerned that his initial impression of prosperity may have been misleading, “I toured the new resorts, most of which are quite grand, as well as the commercial markets, to verify my hypothesis. The resorts and markets have come to symbolize prosperity, and to prove that the siege is formal or political, not economic,” Al-Houl said.
Gaza’s markets are filled with a “plethora of goods,” he wrote. Prices on many items, particularly food, are much lower than they are in Egypt, he said. With goods entering Gaza from both smuggling tunnels to Egypt and humanitarian aid shipments coming in via Israeli crossings, “supply is much greater than demand,” he stated.
damn those
amish,flemish,whoeversBehar told Obama that the Right was hijacking the narrative, and Bernie Goldberg said that that isn’t what is taking place at all.
It’s simply that people are not happy with his performance: the spending bill, health care reform, response to the gulf leak, suing Arizona.
Bunk X wrote:
Gives a whole new meaning to being constipated…
MrPaulRevere wrote:
Really they think that? The USSR could not have done it without our help. Food, supplies etc…we lend-leased them. And still the USSR had no love at all for us. Stalin was hoping we would hit Berlin at the same time they did so they could kill American’s and just say it was friendly fire.
The USSR had their hands full….the tipping point was us supplying them.
doriangrey wrote:
Yup – probably never in a real fist fight – but I’m certain they’ve each been decked on more than one occasion!
@ MrPaulRevere:
Pony tail has an elite corp of smear merchants who do his dirty work and attack apostates to the cult, freetoken and austin blue are the so called intellectuals, and of course we all know about Ice/Jimmah.
Lily wrote:
No, Stalin was hoping that we would kill some Russians so he could sue us for reparations.
@ GGMac:
They were the type that gave up their lunch money without a fight.
Jihad du Jour: Ten Pulled from Homes and Murdered…
I wonder why…
Abdul Rahman Ben Hammad al-Omar, The Religion of Truth, (Riyadh, General Presidency of Islamic Researches, 1991), p. 86
Qur’an 47:4, Translation of Sher Ali
Qur’an 8:39, Translation of Muhammad Ahmed – Samira
Qur’an 8:39, Translation of Ali Quli Qara’i
Qur’an 8:39, Translation of Muhammad Sarwar
Qur’an 8:39, Translation of Aisha Bewley
Qur’an 8:39, Translation of Abdul Majid Daryabadi
Qur’an 9:29, Translation of Hamid S. Aziz
Qur’an 9:29, Translation of Shakir
Qur’an 9:29, Translation of Ali Quli Qara’i
Qur’an 9:29, Translation of Muhammad Mahmoud Ghali
Qur’an 9:29, Translation of Muhammad Sarwar
Qur’an 9:29, Translation of Faridul Haque
Qur’an 9:29, Translation of Maulana Muhammad Ali
Qur’an 9:29, Translation of Muhammad Ahmed – Samira
Qur’an 9:29, Translation of Ahmed Ali
Qur’an 9:29, Translation of Abdel Haleem
doriangrey wrote:
Not all, having been recently involved, I can say it is a relative handful that do most of the smearing and heckling. A smaller number who openly oppose them, and a majority that are not on board with the hostility, but are effectively silenced by it.
GGMac wrote:
Hard to deck someone who falls down and curls up into fetal position at the first indication that they might get hit…
@ doriangrey:
I haven’t kept track….but I do believe this is true.
/the threads are beyound the pale the last time I looked and frankly I don’t have
the stomach to read them anymore.
@ Lily:
Of course. Our help gave them breathing room.
doriangrey – Say, you are GOOD! I especially like The Highway, Memorys, and Be Real.
Nice to see someone with real talent who’s also a serious musician.
sheesh, haven’t these morons heard of a background check?
UPDATE: White House Reacts to Guest’s Criminal Past
President Barack Obama posed with a Charlottesville resident at a White House event on July 19. Court records show she’s been found guilty of two crimes and now the White House says she wouldn’t have been invited if officials had known about her past.
@ Philip_Daniel:
Damn it Philip, would you stop that.
@ Bagua:
And that is sad to say the least. Yet cj lets this happen.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
Exactly, his choice evidently. Good luck with that.
@ Philip_Daniel:
Thanks for posting that. If I had a dollar for every time I saw “fight” in your post I could buy a new computer.
@ rain of lead:
Here is an interesting video, only 2 minutes which contrasts money wasted on the palestinians which could have been put to better use. 1.5 million on Mazen’s luxury villa could have provided clean drinking water to 86,700 residents of Sierra Leone.
doriangrey wrote:
Nope…..he wanted to kill American’s.
We didn’t give him the chance. We let him take Berlin.
GGMac wrote:
I appreciate you saying that but it’s more was than is these days. Those were recorded 14 years ago and I have developed arthritis in my elbows since and probably will never return to playing publicly again, probably wont ever do any more recording again either. Just play a little at home for my own enjoyment.
Bagua wrote:
Aside from providing an illustration of more government mismicromanagement, it would do nothing to undo the damage.
@ Lily:
Patton had the right idea.
@ doriangrey:
And wets themselves and sucks their thumbs while bleating for mercy.
Blogmocracy is a GREAT place, and I’m glad for all who’ve found their way here. I gather Bagua is a fairly recent arrival? He’s definately an asset for our brains, isn’t he? And seems a kindly and humble person.
@ Bagua:
They even have their own youtube channel…http://www.youtube.com/user/JimmahIceProductions
@ MrPaulRevere:
http://www.youtube.com/user/JimmahIceProductions
mjazz wrote:
Yep he knew what the USSR was.
@ Bagua:
Hello, Bagua
Please see my 00:34 comment to doriangrey – because it’s more for you!
Happy you’re here!
MrPaulRevere wrote:
No, Philip really needs to stop doing that. Those posts belong as actual threads, not disconnected comments thrown in to other threads randomly. I’m pretty sure Rodan has already told him that as well.
@ GGMac:
You had a date in 1958?
@ doriangrey:
Sorry to hear that. Especially loving music and all.
/getting older sucks doesn’t it.
@ GGMac:
It’s a fantastic blog, full of witty, insightful and eccentric posters.
Bunk X wrote:
The truth sets you free, as they say. As people learn about the malignant effects of media bias, superficiality and panic mongering, they learn to take a grain of salt with the next disaster porn.
As they understand the regulatory failure and the damage done by the heavy handed response, they are motivated to vote differently in November and 2012.
One hopes, anyway.
@ doriangrey:
I don’t have an issue with it. I find them informative, like Bagua’s posts on the oil spill.
Lily wrote:
It does indeed, the arthritis struck me just this year. I was actually hoping that I would have the chance to record at least one more CD, but Fuemployment and arthritis seem to have come together in such a way as to ensure that doesnt happen..
@ MrPaulRevere:
I think I fit the eccentric classification.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
Coprolite Johnson has a pack of barking poodles. Kept in line by a Scottish Terrier and it’s bitch (dog related usage, honest!). Loud and annoying but no bite.
GGMac wrote:
Oh I see! Cheers.
*blushes*
Since it’s an open thread…
Gotta share this insight from a late former (famous) Black Panther leader-turned-Christian-conservative…
Eldridge Cleaver, The Boston Herald American, January 1977
@ doriangrey:
Did you do the vocals at the same time or track them in later?
doriangrey wrote:
Yeah, it’s word vomit. I’ll cease-and-desist from it from now on…
MrPaulRevere wrote:
Oh dont get me wrong, they are very informative, but they are information that just gets lost when posted like that. They really need to be threads of their own, so that they do not disappear into the intertoobs ether.
@ doriangrey:
A double-whammie..sorry to hear that.
/will keep you in my prayers.
Philip_Daniel wrote:
No, you need to make them actual threads, guestblog them so everybody has a chance to look them over and ask you question about what you are posting.
doriangrey wrote:
With no knowledge of history. Lotta ignorant 20 somethings over there, and one big honkin’ 57 year old who oughtta know better.
WWII began with the unenforced Armistice of WWI.
doriangrey wrote:
Oh, I’m sorry to hear that. That’s a stinking shame! It’s great that you have the recordings. Such a wonderful gift, the technology that keeps memories real, rather then just the vague clouds they would have become without it.
@ rain of lead:
Here’s the actual article translated on Memri…
@ Philip_Daniel:
NOOOOOOOO! Don’t do that! You are teaching people even in the posts.
Lily wrote:
Babbling to each other about stuff they don’t understand, and they’re all experts. Nothing new.
mjazz wrote:
I’ve done both actually. It really depends on the studio, a lot of places prefer to do them separate because the mic’s for vocals are very sensitive and can pick up the sound of the guitar or the extra exertion of breathing while playing.
@ Philip_Daniel:
Eldridge Cleaver became a Christian Conservative?
doriangrey wrote:
When I have time, I will…
I’m researching for an essay on the 9th century Saracen invasions of the Alps…
@ mjazz:
Apparently, yes he did…
@ Bunk X:
Both wars for oil. (and coal) I wonder if any of BuddhaChuck’s chattel know that.
Have a great Friday all, and thanks for the time you all contribute.
@ Bunk X:
Plus ça change, plus c’est la meme chose.
Bunk X wrote:
Same ole, same ole! They really need to read some history before spouting crap opinions.
Well, folks – Hubby’s home from work, and needs to use the computer – so I’ll say goodnight now -
Sleep well, all!
Lily wrote:
Speaking of teaching…
Take a look at how close the Muslims got to Naples and even Rome by the early-10th century…
MrPaulRevere wrote:
Back at you!
Slavery in Yemen
@ GGMac:
Sweet dreams!
GGMac wrote:
Sadly they are all I have left, I used to have a lot more recordings of my playing, but they disappeared years ago. They are out there somewhere I am sure, perhaps with ex band mates or friends I haven’t seen in decades. Unfortunately I have no idea where those people are or if they still have any of them.
doriangrey wrote:
It killed Elvis.
@ Philip_Daniel:
Well, a Mormon.
mjazz wrote:
What would happen if I registered again on LGF and posted that link on the overnight open thread? Immediate banning for “racism against Muslims”?
Philip_Daniel wrote:
Yep they want the whole world to be Islamic. That map shows they made alot of inroads too. Will let it happen again? I pray not.
doriangrey wrote:
No, there was a race to Berlin so that the Allies could claim victory, even though Stalin’s forces were the ones who beat the crap out of Germany.
@ Philip_Daniel:
Yes and then a pile on by the usuals.
Bunk X wrote:
Exactly.
@ Philip_Daniel:
Immediate banning for certain!
@ Lily:
I thought I heard something about a Pope meeting the leader of the Huns or something in Rome, and they didn’t attack.
Lily wrote:
They subjugated Corsica for much of the 9th and 10th centuries; by 810, Corsica was invaded by the legendary Andalusian corsair Lanza Ancisa…just imagine a Muslim Napoleon, now [well, the future Emperor did assert to the Egyptian Muslims during his Mid-East campaign that he "respected" the Qur'an more than the current Mamluk puppet-rulers of Egypt under the marionette-strings of the sons of Osman in occupied Constantinople]…
mjazz wrote:
This I don’t know. I’ll take your word for it. It sounds like it could be true.
@ Lily:
Got a link for that opinion? The soviets in WWII supplied themselves by plundering.
@ doriangrey:
Ditto.
@ Lily:
Pope Leo 1 met Attila the Hun outside Rome in 452. (just looked it up)
@ Bagua:
Yep. Get up on some learnin’ folks, otherwise look at the pretty pictures on the teewee.
mjazz wrote:
The Huns (allied with Goths and Scythians) were only finally vanquished at the Battle of Chalons in 451, a kind of antecedent to the Battle of Tours in 732 when Charles Martel of Austrasia defeated Abdul Rahman al-Ghafiqi in northeastern France.
Bunk X wrote:
Don’t have a link….I read a book about Stalin in WWII…they needed food for their soldiers and were running out. We the USA helped them in supplies to help them get geared up. The plundering was in retalation to what Germany did to them. Not only that the Russian soldiers raped and killed many women too all the way to Berlin.
But I will try and find a link.
mjazz wrote:
Well I trusted your word and you were right.
Beware — this performance may induce vertigo…
Here you are Bunk…they needed help during the Battle of Stalingrad before they could advance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stalingrad
Got some new loozard stats here for all 280 posters on several archived threads.
Here’s what the top 15 looks like:
No one compares to Charles of course, when it comes to ding-per-comment, and it’s probably no surprise the iceweasel is running second in that category. And, again no surprise, many of the old-timers are barely above water when it comes to that metric.
@ Bagua:
You don’t need to be an expert or know the truth to get a whiff of what’s right. Back to the turd house: don’t you think that developers would have come up with that design decades ago if it was truly cheap and efficient?
Automotive design is the same way. An efficient affordable product sells. Hell, any efficient affordable product sells.
It’s when the government enacts legislation to regulate the free market, be it subsidies or legal mandates, that the free market is corrupted. No sane person will purchase an expensive crappy product that he/she doesn’t need or want without government interference.
Better post also for Bunk……
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Battle_of_Stalingrad
Location, Stalingrad, USSR. Result, Decisive Soviet victory … The United States had entered the war following Germany’s declaration of war, in support of … now to their south, turned northwards to help take the city. …
Lily wrote:
He wanted to kill ALL capitalists. He was hell-bent on starting WWIII (nuclear, at that) before the 40s were over.
Poteen wrote:
Congrats on your new coinage of the term “Johnson teh Coprolite”
Supposedly the Apostle Peter appeared to Attila.
@ Philip_Daniel:
Direct link? That’s worth posting elsewhere…
Oh and look at this. Random sampling of threads from #36672 thru #36855 (that’s 184 threads) shows the same two dozen loozards are responsible for 55.1% of the comments.
Could Dee (he who coined ‘un-mata-hari’ and ‘blog version of Animal Farm’) have been right in his off-the-cuff characterization of ‘the same couple dozen posters being responsible for a majority of the LGF posts’? Yeah, looks like he’s still right about that.
PrincessNatasha wrote:
Yes indeed. Not only that he took credit in getting towards Berlin..
when in reality..he realized he didn’t know what he was doing and started letting his Generals take the helm. Then after the war he demorlized them.
Bunk X wrote:
Exactly, in a genuine free market crappy expensive products are put out of business by cheap crappy products. In a genuine free market even extremely well made expensive products are in danger of being put out of business by inexpensive well made products.
Philip_Daniel wrote:
Submit it as an independent post. It stands on its own.
mjazz wrote:
I believe it. No wonder why they didn’t attack after meeting with Pope Leo I.
/think about it.
@ Lily:
Check out that link if you get the chance.
@ Philip_Daniel:
No, please DON’T stop doing that. You can do independent posts too, but it’s not an either/or thing. I for one appreciate your erudition in whatever format you choose to present it.
@ Bunk X:
I don’t think you need 5 different translations of verse 8:39 and 10 of 8:29 though.
He does know his way around the curr-an though.
Philip_Daniel wrote:
“The Saracens were really dicks in the 800s.” -Bunk Strutts ca 2010.
mjazz wrote:
A good read…and just the words of the Pope repelled him even though
there were other factors involved. Not to mention when he prepared to attack Italy again he died.
He very well may have seen St. Peter.
Bunk X wrote:
Here.
Also…
This is interesting…it demonstrates that the Chechen Jihad, while currently al-jihad al-daf’ (defensive jihad) will become jihad al-talab wa’l-ibtida’ (offensive jihad of conquering) once the Chechens become “victorious” against the Russians – this paradigm shift partly due to the infusion of the Arab mujahedin…
Shamil A., 1996, Chechnya, reproduced in Chechnya: life in a war-torn society, by Valeriĭ Aleksandrovich Tishkov (p. 174)
Also worth noting is that Shamil Basayev, the late leader of the Chechen mujahedin against Russia (I understand that some would dispute his involvement in the Beslan Massacre, the Moscow Theater Siege, and the Apartment Bombings, however), was apparently hired as a mercenary by Russia in the early-‘90s to fight against the Georgians in Abkhazia and Ossetia…he and his “Confederation of Mountain Peoples of the Caucasus” seem to have been deeply-involved in the September 27th 1993 massacre of Georgians in Sukhumi, Abkhazia…
Ok, I really shouldn’t have posted this as a comment, but should have submitted it as a future thread…
Feel free to use this as a “blogmocracy-in-action” post…
Now this is a house. And I can get you a good deal on it if anyone is interested?
@ bar:
Lovely view…but I prefer Victorian’s
mjazz wrote:
I’m not disparaging his posts at all. He’s got enough knowledge and backup to make the comments into a thread (or two, or three) all its own, and that’s kudos to Philip.
@ Lily:
Pope John VIII was forced to pay tribute to the emir of the “Saracen” slave-state on the banks of the Garigliano River starting in 878. So, the papacy basically became a tributary to the Dar al-Islam, or more accurately to a single outpost of al-dawla al-islamiyyah (the Islamic empire, the Caliphate, at the time greatly divided and contested — the Minturno emirate itself owing little allegiance to either Cordova or Baghdad).
@ Bunk X:
That’s the Page Museum. Very cool indeed. What’s really neat is that the tarpits are right smack on Wilshire Boulevard.
bar wrote:
Sure, 13.5 MILLION is just chump change, hell I probably got that lying around from my last CD..
@ Lily:
I agree. To contemporary for my taste. Beside the 13 million price tag. But I do love the place, one of the best views I have ever seen. And the glass wall opens up so its like living on the beach, well at least until the saltwater eats everything alive.
Bunk X wrote:
Exactly, hell make PD’s threads a weekly thread event kind of thing.
@ Philip_Daniel:
Sad that happened. No wonder the Crusades occurred.
Check out this comment at Pajamas.
Someone from the swamp must have written this.
The dwarf elephant of the Pleistocence epoch…
Why did they have to go extinct?!!!… ::cries like a wuss::
No, I’m not an Enviro-Nazi, I just like the idea of midget pachyderms…
bar wrote:
Awesome house. Can’t hide a fart from anyone in that.
bar wrote:
Beautiful view…but too cold not comfy feeling….not to mention I would do better things if I had 13 million….not spend the whole lot on a house.
bar wrote:
Put a place like that on the north shore of lake superior and you don’t have to worry about saltwater.
On the other hand the mosquitoes are big enough to carry off a Volkswagen.
@ mjazz:
* and the replies.
Lily wrote:
The Crusaders were provoked. The Fatimids under Caliph al-Qaim and the maritime mujahid (amir al-bahr — prince [or commander] of the sea) nearly conquered half of Italy in 945-935, after all, sacking Pisa and Genoa and temporarily subjugating part of Lombardy. This conquest failed because of a Kharijite revolt in North Africa led by Abu Zayid. What’s interesting is that, according to Muslim historians (as this video demonstrates), the Crusaders, after initial enmity, actually treated Muslims better than they were treated in nearby Islamic Shari’a states and were even given administrative positions in the Crusader kingdoms, impossible for dhimmis under the aforesaid “divine law” of Islam.
What’s really pathetic is that rival dukes in Italy used Saracens as mercenaries in their petty disputes. Of course, with a few exceptions, these Muslim mercenaries would always turn upon the people who hired them…
Philip_Daniel wrote:
Whose name was Yakub ibn Ishaq…
I’m typing too fast…
@ mjazz:
Yep brought up the Nazi’s again….has to have come from the swamp.
/they always bring that up.
@ Philip_Daniel:
Yes the Crusade was provoked. But according to people who don’t anything about it Islam was the victim.
@ doriangrey:
Lol.
I could get you a mill off, so its not all that bad.
The place has the original rebuild funicular, so you gotta pay.
Philip_Daniel wrote:
Yea, I felt the same way when I first heard about the Pymgy Mammoth of California.
Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
There are many tarpits around L.A., and they’re all somewhat cone-shaped so that most of the fossils are at the bottom.
A bug gets stuck, attracts the attention of a vole or mouse that gets stuck, that attracts a protowolf who gets stuck and attracts a sabertooth who gets stuck. Horrible and fascinating at the same time.
@ Bunk X:
Nature!
doriangrey wrote:
Ditto that! Go for it Philip!
@ Bunk X:
It does have electrical in place for electric shades which the place needs, that glass house gets hotter than hot even in the winter.
bar wrote:
Not to mention all white. Very hard to keep clean….need a maid.
@ Lily:
The replies are pretty funny.
The rest of the commenters make pretty good sense.
@ mjazz:
Yeah I looked at a couple and they did make sense…
Wanted to ask you do you think St.Peter appeared to Attilla?
Lily wrote:
A place that big might need two, plus a gardener and who knows how many other people to keep it up, hell probably even need a maintenance/handy man as well.
Lily wrote:
Yeah! Tar needs to eat, too!
bar wrote:
Well, tell ya what, soon as I can remember where I stashed all my loot I’ll give ya a call and ya can draw up the paper work… Ummm, ya wouldn’t happen to know where I stashed all my loot would ya???
@ Lily:
The USA supplied a huge amount of war materials to the USSR under Lend-Lease, Jeeps, P-37 Airacobra fighters, DC-3 transports, and something like 200,000 Studebaker US6 trucks.
I read a book of reminiscences by Canadian airmen in WWII. One group, assigned to bomb the German battleship Tirpitz, moored in a Norwegian fjord, overflew Norway, and landed in a bog in northern Russia. Russian troops showed up driving Jeeps, which their commander insisted were made in a factory “on the other side of the Ural Mountains.” Which was probably the line that the political commissars of the Red Army were told to use.
bar wrote:
Cool. So you want to put a bid in and flip it?
@ Lily:
I wouldn’t doubt it. I was going to say that a lot of people I talk to have had experiences that defy scientific explanation, good and bad.
doriangrey wrote:
I agree and white is a bad color to keep clean. It looks nice as long as no one lives in it. And all the glass….think about that keeping clean. Not my style. Maybe photo’s of it to hang on the wall.
@ doriangrey:
It would be fun to have Pygmy Mammoths in the same cage as Jumbo Shrimp.
Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
ROTFLMAO… Talk about a cage match to the death…
Let’s see. The load time on this thread is reasonable, and we’re already up to 250 or so. Seems like it’s time to drop a dime in the jukebox. This one’s for Dorian.
mjazz wrote:
You are talking to one right now. People don’t understand….it is not fairy tales. I have experienced the Good and the bad. It turned my world around by far. Some people who do experience these are relucant to talk about for fear of sounding crazy. There is a spiritual war going on and WE the humans are what they are fighting far. Yet Good shall prevail….we need only to ask…God shall not infringe on our free will. Gotta ask for help.
/now everyone shall think I’m crazy….
@ Bunk X:
Sure. Except I know the owner and he know’s I am not worth a dime. And he has had the place for sale for a few years now. Was asking 25m at first I think.
Not the place to flip.
Lol…
@ Alberta Oil Peon:
Thank you! The USSR was bogged down in the horrific battle of Stalingrad….they would not have been able to advance without our help.
@ Lily:
That’s funny because I was afraid to add at the end the post, “I have myself.”
Here’s a guy I saw play live on Tuesday evening, at the same venue:
Bunk X wrote:
No what I meant was the animals getting stuck, they other animals go after the stuck prey to seek a food source…..etc. etc. etc.
@ Lily:
You’re right, it is a spiritual battle. A lot of people are unaware of it though. So, no, I don’t think you’re crazy.
mjazz wrote:
Really? We should exchange e-mails because mine would blow your mind…it did mine. It was something that people need to know…
but sadly even if you warn them they still do not believe.
@ mjazz:
Thanks {mjazz}!
@ Lily:
Not everyone. Just me. =)
@ Lily:
We’re on the same wavelength. I was going to say we should meet at Table9 some night and then do the private chat thing.
Well nite….I’m fading out bad………..
@ mjazz:
Sounds good to me….I’d really like to hear what you experienced.
I am always up late on the late night thread we will schedule it then the next time we are both online.
And sweet dreams!
@ Lily:
Likewise! Nite all!
@ Lily:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXq81-cGJr4
Bunk X wrote:
{Bunk}…..i figured you would think I am crazy…it’s cool!
And just for you……
Sweet dreams to you to also!
@ Bunk X:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh! That was sweet. I retract the vid for you.
Was just messing with you.
See you tomorrow on the late thread bunk…..:)
Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
That was just, ummm wow…. How much did they pay you to sit through that???
@ Lily:
All in fun, Lily.
G’night all. See y’all back here tomorrow night for Fry Night Fun.
Strange day,
First we get houses that makes one want apply a non eco-friendly insect repellant, then the Jawa reports on death threats against Pamela Geller.
Egyptian Journalist Describes ‘Absolute Prosperity’ in Gaza
@ African Moondog:
Morning African Moondog. I bet Pam has been on that short list for awhile now actually. I hope she’s got protection and backup.
Well, since it’s an overnight thread. No need to be so moody. After all it is Friday. Time to get out and do stuff this weekend
PaladinPhil wrote:
Good photos.Again I ask, does the sun ever shine in Toronto in summer?
Good morning all
@ African Moondog:
Yes it does.
Just not on most of our photo walks. Running gag with the group, after all it was started and managed by an Englishman….
Morning Nevergiveup. How’s the day shaping up?
Morning, nevergive.
@ PaladinPhil:
@ mfhorn:
How’s the day gonna be? Time will tell. I started at 6:00AM and am done by 1:00PM, so in that respect the day is almost over, but I got a ton of Navy paperwork to do today.
Princess Natasha was just promoted to 1st LT. in the US Army. I hope she comes back and visits us here soon.
@ Nevergiveup:
Ahhh, nothing like military paperwork. Done in triplicate no less as well.
KABUL, Afghanistan – Three U.S. troops died in blasts in Afghanistan, bringing the death toll for July to at least 63 and surpassing the previous month’s record as the deadliest for American forces in the nearly 9-year-old war.
This disturbs me. If we were really “surging” and making progress, well then I’d understand. But I don’t see that. This sucks. We are fighting to a deadline. Everyone knows it. These good men and women I fear are dying for a failed cause.
President Nicolas Sarkozy said on Friday he wanted to strip French nationality from anyone of foreign origin who threatened the life of a police officer, in a crackdown after riots shook two French towns this month.
And our President wants to give more rights and amnesty to our illegal aliens?? Go figure?
@ African Moondog:
I see by their complaint that she is guilty of accusing Mohamadans of violence, therefore, she must experience ultimate violence for her transgression against SLM.
*banging head on desk*