“Honey, it locked up again and I’ve gotta go, real bad.”
There’s something about designers who insist on taking a concept that works and trying to fix it. Just because it’s different, doesn’t necessarily make it better, and this is a great example.
Yeah, it looks cool, and it takes up less space than a regular bathroom with a toilet and a shower, but look closer at what it takes away.
–The floor and all walls of the room need to be waterproofed, and it has to have a floor drain.
–All electrical fixtures, switches and outlets need to be waterproof, too.
–The floor is always cold. And wet.
–Forget mildew problems. Now you have water deposits to clean.
–To clean it, you need a ladder… and machine oil.
–No grooming mirror in front of the lavatory so you might as well do it in a dark closet.
–The toilet seat will always be wet. No furry seat cover cozies for you!
–Forget about a toilet paper dispenser. You better remember to fish it out of the linen cabinet every time.
–Women have no countertop space to display all 31 beauty enhancement products and accouterments.
–Men have no place to set their beer while they pee into the floor drain.
Now, if it had a single button that springs everything into a usable configuration, that might be cool, except when the power goes out. In other words, it’s another great example of pure efficient genius, and just the thing for an Overnight Open Thread.
[Found here, with a Tip o' the Tarboosh to Snork.]
Tags: crapper, industrial design, inefficiency, Open thread, POS, Swiss Army, trendy
Hey Bunk – you’re late! I’m docking your… er… n’ermind!
Yoo-Hoo!
The Overnight Thread!
YEA!
OH yea, brings virtual sangria with me from previous thread..
@ m:
You can’t do that! It’s Buddy Guy’s 74th Birthday!
This is the Friday Night Technology Thread?
Don’t be shy people.
Buddy Guy’s excellent tribute to the late Stevie Ray Vaughan, and I know the feeling!
@ mjazz:
Here it comes…
Here you sg….
That’s a much more complicated version of something I saw in Saudi Arabia back in 1990.
The compound we stayed in for the first couple of weeks we were there had combination toilets and showers, but it was the typical middle eastern hole in the floor…
I kind of resent it. They are pushing the Swiss Army Knife design like it works for everything.
They are stuck on that. Making a simple system complicated.
@ mjazz:
Hey {mjazz}!
@ chickadee:
I’m still not sure who thought it was a good idea to put a flash drive into a Swiss Army knife.
I rarely need a knife when I’m transferring files…or vice versa.
@ m:
I saw your comment late was I right that everclear is called crystal clear also?
/or did I just lose some of my memory?
Lily wrote:
Drinking floor polish (or Everclear, for that matter) will do that…
@ Lily:
Hi {Lily} !
lobo91 wrote:
I really don’t drink. At all. Now back in the day……
@ Lily:
Me too. That’s 3 things in common, not a morning person and our conversation last night.
Oh and bunk I tested some song vids on the hubby and oldest son…
One reaction was ‘turn that sh*t off’….they both were into Metillica though.
mjazz wrote:
Yeah I have been thinking about that….and no I am not a morning person at all…just say the word when you want to discuss…
@ Lily:
Music sure has changed through the years. So many different ‘genders’ now. (channeling m&m)
Savage’s_Girl need another song you’d like?
/and oh did you catch the first one I put up here?
mjazz wrote:
No, it’s bitch night. Bitch about anything you want.
I disappeared to go make a bite to eat. Now I have to catch up to you folks!
(I’ve made myself a little Greek salad – no lettuce, just cucumbers, tomato, thinly sliced red onion, Feta cheese with Mediterranean herbs, and Kalamata olives and some Greek vinegairette)
@ Lily:
Now sounds good while I’m still half awake
7-2 Rockies, bottom of the 8th. Tulowitzki just hit an RBI double.
Tacos for everyone tomorrow!
I shall return…
Bunk X wrote:
Can’t! The focus of my biotching pussed out and went to bed. I’m neutered!
Lily wrote:
I’ll stick with my Aerosmith, if it’s all the same to you.
@ mjazz:
Indeed….I used to be able to keep up….not so much anymore.
Still have my favorites though. My son always has me listen to an Emiemn song here and there. He has about one I like…..
@ Bunk X:
awesome music Bunk. That’s what I’m talkin’ about… get a little groove on!
“Designs” like this always make me think the person who created it, is more obsessed with looking clever and cute than really concerned with how it is going to work.
See how great it lines up. hmmmm. ok But just how functional is it. How easy is it to swing those components around? How easy is it to clean it.
And Brad Hawpe hits a ground rule double, for another 2 RBIs!
9-2 now…
@ mjazz:
Okay…let me go to the chat…
@ chickadee:
How easy is it to use at 3am when you stumble into the bathroom out of bed…
Bunk X wrote:
It’s the night to bitch about technology!
How come I can’t get the last podcast to come up on the player? Even when I click the link that was given to us yesterday, the old podcast comes up, not yesterday’s. No matter what I do, yesterday’s podcast will not play.
savages_girl wrote:
That sounds lovely. I love salads in the summer.
@ Lily:
#8 – perfect!
I’m dancin’ now (boogies here…boogies there…)
lobo91 wrote:
You could bust yer head open on that thing.
It looks like one of the kludges that people come up with when trying to shoehorn the amenities of modern living into a tiny RV. And I know a thing or two about RVs.
chickadee wrote:
I’ll eat salads but I’ve never been fond of lettuce. It doesn’t have much flavor and I like my veg to have their own flavor before I put any seasonings on them.
And now it’s 10-2
@ Lily:
I’m definitely not a morning person!
Make that 12-2…
Having problems mjazz will get in in a minute
@ lobo91:
Holy crap!
10-2 in whose favor?
Ah. Ladies’ Night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWe3FDaWUS8&feature=related
@ Lily:
Ok…
@ Lily:
Obviously I am behind…
Caught Ladie’s Night! (dances around)
@ savages_girl:
12-2 Rockies.
Barmes just got his second hit in this inning…
13-2 now…
8 runs so far in this inning.
@ lobo91:
Aerosmith is good!
WOW! (clinks glasses with ya)
This is all with 2 outs…
This is dreamy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0zgwVZtlUU&feature=PlayList&p=906C87BA1E3ACADC&playnext=1&index=4
@ lobo91:
Good God man, I can’t keep up with you! The score changes faster than I can respond!
Holy crap…Fowler just hit a 2 run homer!
15-2…still 2 outs
@ Lily:
Well let me know, the windows open…
One of the broadcasters: “I’d say this was getting ridiculous, but they passed ridiculous about 5 batters ago.”
Hi Savage’s Girl! I can’t believe Lily just ducked out. I was up for an ear ripping night of romantic songs.
1389AD wrote:
LOL, you are exactly right. There is only so much you can do to diminish basic designs and expect them to work. Seriously, I really want to see the design for a bicycle that is crimped, cramped and reduced to a foldable item than can fit in a shirt pocket. I know a guy who is trying. LOL
@ chickadee:
yeah, it’s a little too late in the evening to have anything too heavy, and I have to eat up some of the vegetables. It makes up for the cake and ice cream I had at work this afternoon for Birthday Friday.
@ 1389AD:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/blogmocracy/2010/07/30/the-voice-of-the-resistance-07-29-10
Try that.
@ yenta-fada:
She’ll be back.
New twist on an old song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo5–q2GPNo
@ 1389AD:
I find the organic baby spring mix I buy for my tortoise (and I eat as well) has a variety of different greens that each have their own unique flavors. I’ve eaten the different kinds of greens plain (no dressing) just to see what they taste like. But for Greek salad, I do it sans lettuces of any kind.
@ Possum:
Thanks. I was looking for the link too.
10 consecutive hits in this inning…all with 2 outs.
This is unreal.
mjazz wrote:
Thanks! Tell her I’m here looking for her vibe.
@ yenta-fada:
#45 – oh, nice song yenta-fada!
And good evening to you {yenta-fada}!
@ savages_girl:
Leia’s food sounds good, according to the label. Lamb and rice.
But I’m not trying it.
@ savages_girl:
Do you live in a warm climate where he stays out all year round?
Did you buy him or just find him?
Calo wrote:
Glad to be of assistance.
Classic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hlhi8AZf6k
And Tulowitzki gets a 2 RBI double.
17-2.
One more hit and they’ll tie the MLB record for an inning.
The Rockies’ 17th hitter for the inning is now coming to bat.
savages_girl wrote:
Birthday Friday? wow. I love cake. I have a cookbook somewhere by a woman who was dumped by her husband (for a younger woman) and she made a different cake everyday for a year and shared it with her friends and customers at her book store. It was abt. healing through “cake.” LOL
By the last recipe she seemed pretty happy.
@ yenta-fada:
nice version of Ella’s tune…
Another walk. Bases loaded for Stewart.
Can the Cubs come to Denver more often? Please?
Let’s do one of my favorite songs: Hit it Aretha!
@ lobo91:
Finally, the third out.
18 hitters…12 runs for the inning.
@ lobo91:
You know, when I was a kid, I tried my dogs Walter Kendall 5 dog biscuits because I was curious if they really tasted like the 5 flavors they were supposed to be… dogs must have really good taste buds ’cause they all tasted the same to me… lucky I didn’t crack a tooth on ‘em…
@ mjazz:
Are you talking about my tortoise?
savages_girl wrote:
Queen of Soul. Everybody dance.
You too, lobo.
@ savages_girl:
Actually, dogs have relatively few taste buds, compared to humans. Something like 1/3 as many, as I recall.
That’s why they’ll eat just about anything.
@ chickadee:
That’s pretty cool. She created her own therapy.
We have Birthday Friday the last Friday of every month to celebrate all those who’ve had a birthday for that particular month.
We love any excuse to eat or have a party at my office…
savages_girl wrote:
Nah! we are talking about Savage.
@ lobo91:
I bet the Cubs will be glad when this game is over!
@ Possum:
LOL!
No Possum, he found me!
savages_girl wrote:
There are a lot of pissed-off looking people in their dugout right now…
@ yenta-fada:
Lobo is doing the Rockies Happy Dance of Joy right now… he’s probably exhausted after all those runs they just scored…
I know it slows you down, SG, but I need some Lenny:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5f6j02zHW8
yenta-fada wrote:
I’ll raise you:
savages_girl wrote:
I was just waiting for the inning to end so I could go to get more wine…
@ lobo91:
Really? I did not know that. I thought maybe their sense of taste was like their sense of smell – more heightened than humans.
Hmmm, learn something new every day.
savages_girl wrote:
Game over.
Surprisingly, the Cubs didn’t catch up…
hey everybody
how ya’ll doing tonite?
@ yenta-fada:
Hmmm, having trouble getting into the Leonard Cohen vibe…
@ lobo91:
Hmm, believe it or not, not a big Steely Dan fan either, but this is one of their songs that I don’t mind… but they mention Aretha Franklin, so I have to cut them some slack on this song…
@ lobo91:
Yes, a celebration round is in order!
(holds out glass) I’ll join ya!
@ savages_girl:
Every time I start looking at significantly younger women again, I think of that song…
@ Philip_Daniel:
oh, I like that! Good pianist! Who is that?
@ savages_girl:
Cheers!
Here’s the FUNNY Quebec opera singer; Natalie Choquette:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBEuTUsZvQs
@ rain of lead:
Hi rain of lead!
Having a good night, drinking sangria with lobo, chatting away with everybody and listening to good music.
glad it’s Friday night! I’ve got two days I can sleep in! Thank God!
savages_girl wrote:
I hear you. Give me some time to warm up.
@ lobo91:
Hmmm, interesting…
must evoke something from your past…
Philip_Daniel wrote:
There will never be another quite like him.
@ savages_girl:
Glenn Gould
@ savages_girl:
That’s what the song is about…having nothing in common with the 19 year old he was going out with.
@ lobo91:
Cheers! (clinks glasses)
@ lobo91:
I should pay more attention to the lyrics…
@ yenta-fada:
This is funnier:
OT Life meets fiction in Russia. The precrime unit.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/29/russia-minority-report-law-fsb
@ savages_girl:
Not that I’m thinking about dating any 19 year olds (or that they’d have anything to do with me, for that matter).
I’m sticking with the 40+ crowd these days…
@ Philip_Daniel:
#112 – cute! love musicals!
Philip_Daniel wrote:
I don’t speak Italian, but I did get “Figaro la, Figaro Qua” Me like.
@ savages_girl:
I had my first experience with that when I was about 29. I went to lunch with this girl who was about 21 or so. On the way back, a Don Henley song came on the radio.
She asked who the singer was, and I told her, “It’s Don Henley…used to be with the Eagles.”
She said, “Oh, yeah…I remember them. My mom listens to them.”
That was pretty much the end of that…
@ lobo91:
When I was 19 my boyfriend at the time was 31. When I was 24 I had a boyfriend who was a jazz drummer (amongst other things) and he was 48. He was a handful and a real pain in the ass. Both husbands were way older than me…way…
Savage is the few guys I’ve dated who was near my age… it’s kind of refreshing to date someone in my age range… of course, he’ll probably never come visit me again…
I’m sticking with the 45+ crowd… well, no one really… just sticking by myself… but I’m ok with that…
yenta-fada wrote:
You know Eric Holder has been on the phone to Moscow about this…
@ savages_girl:
I’m just shy of 21 years older than my ex is.
Carol, on the other hand, is 43.
@ lobo91:
Yeah, I know what you mean!
My co-partner in crime at work is young enough to be my son (if I had had a child at 18). We play music trivia sometimes… well, basically, he can name songs in about 1-3 notes, and I’m still trying to figure out who it is, but when it comes to “the oldies” or country, he doesn’t have a clue, so I usually have a chance. We were out to lunch and I switched the station to the oldies station and Linda Ronstadt’s “Heat Wave” came on. I was like, “LindaRonstadtHeatWave Yoo-HOO!” because I actually got one in on him. He looks at me and shrugs and goes, “WHO?”
@ lobo91:
Yeah, my first husband and I were 20 1/2 years apart in age and my second husband is 26 1/2 years older than me.
We had some compatability issues… however, I like and respect my 2nd husband. Good man, hard-working truck driver, we just weren’t very compatible. We still talk about once or twice a year just to see how each other is holding out. He’s got a girlfriend closer to his age and lives in Texas now (retired). I think he not-so-secretly snickers when my love life is crap…
@ lobo91:
President fund raiser keeps his signing hand…handy. Can you say ‘screw the people and Congress’?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-stewardship-ocean-our-coasts-and-great-lakes
@ lobo91:
Get this – my second husband knew Jimmy Hoffa! Really interesting stories he had to tell. When we watched the movie “Hoffa” together, he was able to tell me what was fact and what was fiction or unknown. It really made the movie all the more interesting.
@ savages_girl:
Carol knows that my ex is significantly younger, but I’ve never given her any details.
She has a son who’s 5 years younger than my ex…
savages_girl wrote:
This this one is for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_DVyJh0ngo
@ lobo91:
Yeah, my first husband’s twin daughters were my age and my second husband’s daughter was my age.
It makes for an awkward moment when you first meet, but after that, everbody adjusts…
@ yenta-fada:
LOVE that song! George Strait! He’s a cutie!
@ savages_girl:
We never really did, actually. At least until she started grad school.
I sort of feel like I finished raising her, or something. She decided she didn’t need me anymore, so she’s on her own now.
OK, I just looked up into my window (my computer desk in in my dining room) and I realize that at night I can look at the guy in the next building in his room reading a paper… weird…maybe I should close my curtains…
@ savages_girl:
Not a bad idea…
Hmm…I never noticed that they re-run the Rockies games after the post-game show is over on the standard definition channel.
I should find someone who hasn’t seen the game and bet on this game…
Anybody want to talk about the weather?
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/
@ lobo91:
sometimes you “outgrow” people and start a new phase in life… I think that’s the down-side of being in any relationship, but especially when there is a significant age difference. It’s not good or bad, it’s just something that happens… people just gorw and mature at different rates. There’s really no telling if it will happen in your relationship or not – it’s just the chance we all take by getting in relationship, no matter what the ages are… at least that’s been my experience.
@ lobo91:
Yeah, I closed the curtains. I felt a little too exposed…
@ lobo91:
LOBO! That is evil! (but cunning)
Reminds me of a blonde joke…
I’ll have to see if I can find that one in my jokes archive…
Lily wrote:
What on earth did you play? I deny everything.
@ yenta-fada:
Nope, I’d rather have more music!
@ savages_girl:
I could probably get pretty good odds on the 8th inning…
mjazz wrote:
At least you didn’t say “genre.” Only people with “alternative lifestyles” and music critics say that.
Well, it’s getting harder to sustain ‘ladies night’ on my own. I’m going to have to find Lily another time. You and lobo are having a good conversation though. I have to finish up stuff in the kitchen.
How about a little Tracy Chapman?
@ 1389AD:
As for Blogmocracy Radio, talk to the m. It was oddness last night.
savages_girl wrote:
Here you go. A couple of my favorites together:
@ Bunk X:
I didn’t know “genre” was a bad word…
@ lobo91:
Stevie Ray Vaughn!
he was a rockin’ guitarist…
I was just getting into him and then he died… that was a bummer…
lobo91 wrote:
LOL me too! Great song.
savages_girl wrote:
Yeah. And what does she say after spelling it out? No one knows.
@ savages_girl:
Jeff Healey (the blind guitarist in that video) is dead now, too.
@ Bunk X:
here you go!
(oo) What you want
(oo) Baby, I got
(oo) What you need
(oo) Do you know I got it?
(oo) All I’m askin’
(oo) Is for a little respect when you come home (just a little bit)
Hey baby (just a little bit) when you get home
(just a little bit) mister (just a little bit)
I ain’t gonna do you wrong while you’re gone
Ain’t gonna do you wrong (oo) ’cause I don’t wanna (oo)
All I’m askin’ (oo)
Is for a little respect when you come home (just a little bit)
Baby (just a little bit) when you get home (just a little bit)
Yeah (just a little bit)
I’m about to give you all of my money
And all I’m askin’ in return, honey
Is to give me my profits
When you get home (just a, just a, just a, just a)
Yeah baby (just a, just a, just a, just a)
When you get home (just a little bit)
Yeah (just a little bit)
—— instrumental break ——
Ooo, your kisses (oo)
Sweeter than honey (oo)
And guess what? (oo)
So is my money (oo)
All I want you to do (oo) for me
Is give it to me when you get home (re, re, re ,re)
Yeah baby (re, re, re ,re)
Whip it to me (respect, just a little bit)
When you get home, now (just a little bit)
R-E-S-P-E-C-T
Find out what it means to me
R-E-S-P-E-C-T
Take care, TCB
Oh (sock it to me, sock it to me,
sock it to me, sock it to me)
A little respect (sock it to me, sock it to me,
sock it to me, sock it to me)
Whoa, babe (just a little bit)
A little respect (just a little bit)
I get tired (just a little bit)
Keep on tryin’ (just a little bit)
You’re runnin’ out of foolin’ (just a little bit)
And I ain’t lyin’ (just a little bit)
(re, re, re, re) ‘spect
When you come home (re, re, re ,re)
Or you might walk in (respect, just a little bit)
And find out I’m gone (just a little bit)
I got to have (just a little bit)
A little respect (just a little bit)
@ Philip_Daniel:
Deanna Durbin was supposed to be Dorothy.
@ lobo91:
I was wondering who that was.
he’s was blind?!? I never would’ve guessed.
He was good! What a great duo!
@ 1389AD:
Not until you hit this link. It works, I tested it 3 times, it works!
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/blogmocracy/2010/07/30/the-voice-of-the-resistance-07-29-10
lobo, for you…
a little Aerosmith for ya… one of my favorites…
@ savages_girl:
Yup. He had a rare form of cancer in his eyes, and they were removed when he was under a year old.
He died of cancer at 41.
Bio.
@ savage:
Savage!
What are you doing up this late?
Welcome to the overnight thread…
@ Bunk X:
Bunk, that link works, ‘m’ sent it to me.
@ savages_girl:
Just popped in, I watched ‘Bones’ with Mom
@ savages_girl:
If you’ve ever seen the fairly forgettable movie “Roadhouse,” with Patrick Swayze as a bar bouncer, Jeff Healey and his band play the house band.
@ lobo91:
How sad and tragic.
Talk about a guy taking lemons and making lemonade!
Hell of a guitarist… wow…
savages_girl wrote:
My first big crush was on this girl who had transferred to my school from Massachussets. Aerosmith had played at her junior high school.
@ savage:
I think I’ve watched that show once with my brother…
@ lobo91:
yes, vaguely remember that movie. I remember the fight scenes in the bar… that’s about it…
Bunk X wrote:
If she had gotten the role it would not be the classic it is today. Buddy Epsen (Jed Clampett) was the original Tin Man until he contracted aluminum poisoning from the makeup and was replaced by Jack Haley at the last minute.
@ savages_girl:
I mostly remember the doctor who kept sewing him up…
@ lobo91:
Where here you go, a little more Aerosmith for ya…
@ savages_girl:
Hey ! savages_girl ! Caught ya !! Check it out:
http://www.showusyourpizza.com/
chickadee wrote:
It’s like those Blackberry phones that would work just fine if your mouth were on the side of your head, just below your ear.
If a product meant to be used by people does not fit the parameters of the human body, then it’s a FAIL.
@ savage:
Thanks, I’ll try the link when I’m more awake!
@ 4_Sticks:
You know, I just saw a tv ad for this last night. I wondered what the deal was. $500 bucks if they use your picture? I should do it! I love taking pictures… Cool, thanks!
lobo91 wrote:
Heh. We pulled that off on a Cincinnati Reds game. A bunch of my aho buddies rented a houseboat for a beerfishing trip. One of the guys had recorded a game on cassette. As the battery power went lower, Joe Nuxall started sounding kinda loopy while a few of us amazed the others with predictions on the play-by-play.
@ 1389AD:
The thing is, they weren’t meant to be used as phones. That’s a secondary function. Same as the iPhone.
I remember reading an article somewhere a few years ago where they were talking about the fact that modern cell phones basically suck as phones, and all the manufacturers know it. It’s because they were designed to be video players, or game machines, or whatever, first, and phones second.
@ 1389AD:
well, it works, I’m listening to it now.
@ 1389AD:
Hey 1389!
Is it true? Did I read somewhere a few nights back someone congratulating you on getting a job?
What did you get?
@ savages_girl:
I’d do that if it didn’t require ordering Domino’s pizzas…
@ savage:
So, how is it listening to it the second time around?
maybe if I get a chance tomorrow I will listen to it while I’m cleaning the fish tanks.
savages_girl wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5c3H6LpLZI
@ Bunk X:
I wonder what kind of odds I could have gotten on the Rockies scoring 12 runs on 11 hits in the 8th inning?
That would have to be good for at least 100,000 to one…
savages_girl wrote:
Working as a part-time cashier at an office supply/computer store. Just started there this week, and hangin’ in there trying to learn the cash register without messing up. As everyone knows, my health is not the best, so I’m trying to get plenty of rest when not at work.
@ lobo91:
buy the pizza, take some pictures, give the pizza to a neighbor or their kids…
Geez, you can win $500!
savages_girl wrote:
Oh yeah. It’s right up there with “paradigm.” It sets most B.S. detectors off rather quickly.
Bunk X wrote:
Do you have change for a paradigm?
That’d be four nickles or twenty pennies…
@ savages_girl:
Leia would probably eat it.
Not that I’d give it to her.
@ 1389AD:
Hey, yea for you!
Cash registers aren’t so bad. You’ll have it down in no time. I used to work them when I worked at Universal Studios Tour Center when I was a kid. Back then we had to count back change – the registers didn’t figure it out for you.
@ savages_girl:
“Take care, TCB?” Right. That makes complete sense.
@ Bunk X:
You used the word “paradigm” in one of your posts on a thread over the last 24 hours… I am trying to remember which thread. You were talking about some class you took…
@ savages_girl:
I still can’t believe that the Sonic near me couldn’t sell any food when their computer went down…
Socialist Journolistas”
@ Bunk X:
You said you wanted to know what she said after spelling R-E-S-P-E-C-T. You didn’t say it had to make sense…
maybe “TCB” are the initials of whoever she’s singing to in the song…
savage wrote:
I heard most of the show. The first minutes logging in were odd, and the cj bashing didn’t start until the last 10 minutes. Great show otherwise.
@ savages_girl:
I’ve got TCM on right now – the Stones movie. Man, this is already an old flick,can’t imagine what their up to now. Sooo many years have gone by. I grew up on these guys. back int he 70′s I passed up going to see them more than once could i felt they had passed their prime. No doubt they put on good shows but once jaggers voice ‘changed’ I couldn’t get into it anymore. Now, tonight,after so many years of not listening to them, I can’t help but think what younger kids must make of this film. At least the kids that watch these amateur ‘star maker’ shows/competitions ! Jagger sounds even worse then I remember !! ‘Vocalist’ maybe ?? Certainly not a ‘singer’ ! And people shell out big bucks for these concerts. I’d do better singing his songs with a karaoke (sp ?) machine…. I know part of its ‘the legend’ etc but I’m sitting here wondering if one of my kids were to walk in right now that they’d be horrified at the sound coming through my speaker system and wonder where my ‘taste’ comes from. Absence hasn’t made anything any fonder – just makes me think “what were we thinking ?”.
One of my all time fav ‘country’ songs will always be ‘Dead Flowers’.
Hank Jr they ain’t but for some scruffy little dudes from London, they did pretty darn good with it. I used to go see Aerosmith even before “Dream On’ was a hit.The first time I saw them in some college gym., I thought they were the aires to the Stones throne. Now Aerosmith has retired ! Excuse this old timers rambling please…I can’t help myself, its just that time of ‘life’. Where oh where did the time go ???
@ lobo91:
Pizza would probably give her the runs…
More music:
@ 1389AD:
very funny!
@ lobo91:
Yeah, that’s pretty pathetic…
Easy Skankin’
- Bob Marley interview
@ savages_girl:
TCB = Taking Care of Business.
savages_girl wrote:
Naw. Listen to the original version, and it comes out like, “take out TCP.” That leaves RESE. Still makes no sense, even though the background singers singer it.
lobo91 wrote:
Their cash registers a/k/a point-of-sale (POS) systems, no pun intended – evidently are tied into a computer network that provides credit/debit card validation as well as an interface to the kitchen and the inventory system. AFAIK, these these cash registers are not set up to work as free-standing units to accept cash only if the computer network is down.
lobo91 wrote:
That was BTO.
@ savages_girl:
It’s not bad, I didn’t realize I was on such a asskicking mood lol
lobo91 wrote:
Our cat pretty much just eats cat food; he doesn’t have much appetite for human food, except for an occasional scrap of ham. But he does have an unfortunate liking for licking and chewing certain types of plastic. I suspect that something in the plastic contributes to upsetting his stomach, so I try to keep him away from that.
@ 4_Sticks:
No they haven’t. They’re on tour right now.
@ 4_Sticks:
It’s interesting that a lot of singers who make it, especially back in the day, it wasn’t all about their voices, but more about their energy and enthusiasm and feeling that they put into their songs. for example, Janis Joplin or Joe Cocker, for example. Same with The Stones – they put on a good show and they put their all into their music and performance. It’s all about the passion they put into doing what they do.
@ 4_Sticks:
And yeah, they’d probably all would have gotten “the boot” from Simon Cowell!
Bunk X wrote:
It was, but they weren’t the only ones to use it.
Elvis did, too.
savages_girl wrote:
Yes, same with Bob Dylan, IMO.
@ savages_girl:
SG I’m back….sorry….got a song that will kill metillica
@ lobo91:
I so never thought of that!
1389AD wrote:
My ex-cat (the cat that went with my ex) is like that, too. He won’t eat anything but cat food anymore (he would eat most anything when he was little, though) but loves to lick plastic bags.
@ savages_girl:
So your tortoise found you?
@ 1389AD:
Have you heard Dylan lately, he sings in a monotone live.
@ savage:
Oh, you usually are on a “take them all out, take no prisoners, kill them all” kind of mood… I will have to listen to it…
1389AD wrote:
Yikes! Tell me this does not apply to my new and beloved BB Curve?
Nice… never saw this footage. Moon, wild man. A shame what happened to Entwistle – the ‘mid life crisis tour’.There comes a time y have to put down he coke and the chics. Ok, the coke then…dude had everything (except for a drivers license) including a classic car collection to die for (no pun inte….) and a castle type estate deal with actual knights body armor etc. One run up the ‘lift’ with a couple of Vegas hotties, a toot or two and it all goes to the tax man ! The dumb (but freakin’ great bass player) f*ck. RIP – JE !! And KM….and JHB (I’m a drummer).
Glowsticks in a Toilet
@ lobo91:
Look who’s on drums for Richard Hell & the Voidoids…
Marky Ramone!
@ 1389AD:
Yeah, that can’t be good…
@ savages_girl:
@ savages_girl:
I have a Who DVD set that includes interviews with the band members. Pete Townsend was talking about Roger Daltrey is pretty unflattering terms.
He said something like, “It was really hard for him, being surrounded by all this talent. I mean, Keith and John were musical geniuses, and I’m pretty much a genius. And Roger’s the singer.”
For Savage’s_Girl…..
@ 4_Sticks:
Jeeeeez Sticks, wadda ya goin’ to do – start reading us the obituaries next ?? Lighten up dude, its the FNDT !! Enjoy the freakin’ tunes !!
/takes own advice
@ lobo91:
I thought Steven Tyler quit last year. Didn’t he walk off the stage and say he was quitting the band?
Apparently that didn’t last long…
savages_girl wrote:
I think that was a rumor or something.
I saw them last year after that story came out. The only one who wasn’t there was Tom Hamilton, and that was because he’d just had surgery for something (back, maybe?).
@ 4_Sticks:
I had a feeling Entwistle wasn’t alone either.
@ savages_girl:
He’s supposed to be the next American Idol judge. That should be the end of that show.
http://www.popeater.com/2010/07/30/steven-tyler-american-idol-judge/
@ 4_Sticks:
Okay for you…..
The rock star medical issue that really got me was when Eddie Van Halen had hip replacement surgery a few years ago.
That was when I started to feel old.
Just think…in a few year, instead of Robert Wagner and Lee Majors doing commercials for AARP or hearing aids, it’ll be Steven Tyler and Harrison Ford…
S’gotta beat, yiz can dance to it….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQkActP-isE
lobo91 wrote:
Yep and it will be a sad day for us all. Already feeling my age!
savages_girl wrote:
You’re absolutely right! Just like Captain Beefheart!
Como estas?
@ savage:
The saddest thing I ever saw on that show (not that I ever watched it much) was when they had Rod Stewart on last year.
He gave the most pathetic performance I’ve ever seen (or heard). I really had to wonder if they even did a rehearsal or anything.
@ lobo91:
So did Dred Zeppelin, but I couldn’t find a link.
Just got back from a Great White concert. Pretty good show, Jack Russell still got his pipes.
Sorry ladies….about missing out. Another night then…and I will stick to it.
@ Lily:
I’m looking forward to seeing Brittany Spears doing infomercials selling Time/Life CD collections on late night cable, though…
@ Bunk X:
What up Bunkaroonie?
@ Lily:
Tanks !! One of my favs !! On the 4th I play Creedence all day…
@ savage:
I hope they give him a little, uh, advice. Tyler
lobo91 wrote:
Actually that will probably be soon!
gulfloafer wrote:
I didn’t realize they were touring again.
I saw them a couple of times in the late 80s. Great shows.
@ 4_Sticks:
Glad you liked it. For some reason you needed it!
@ mjazz:
I found Mr Tortoise for tonight and he is back safe and sound in his pad (a 40 gallon tank with nice soft bedding, his own palm tree and half-log and his own imitation rock food dish. Plus overheat heat lamp and UVB lighting.
Actually, I got Olauf Tortoise (Or as I affectionately call him “Mr Tortoise) from Petco one day about 10 years ago. He is a Russian Wood Tortoise.
I was thinking of getting one of these tortoises because they stay small and they don’t eat meat (I don’t have to feed them bugs). The first day I walked in to see them, they had a whole bunch of little Russian Wood tortoises, but the next time I went back, there was Mr Tortoise, all by himself. He was not the most colorful and he had a little dent in his shell (probably an injury incurred when he was captured as a young tortoise)and they had put out dried bread for him (this is not part of their diet). He looked so depressed and I could just feel this lonely depression from him. I couldn’t stand it. I bought him and all the equipment I needed to bring him home right then and there. I couldn’t leave him there. Then I had coupons for him and equipment and I had to wheel and deal with the manager on it all. Next thing I know, I was taking him home and re-arranging my dining room to make room for his tank. And making sure he was getting a proper tortoise diet. I still remember seeing him that day. He was a lot happier after a few days of being with me.
About a month after I got him, I went to a Petco in another town and found a little girl tortoise, who I named Cassie Tortoise. So there was Olauf and Cassie Tortoise. She was a little pistol. He wasn’t so happy to have here there at first and ignored her until she plopped herself in front of him in his food dish! She was half his size. She ended up growing to be TWICE AS BIG as him and would boss him around. She died last year from unknown causes. Broke my heart. It was the day I was having neck surgery. I cried and cried.
Since then, Mr. Tortoise has been on his own. The vet said he’d be ok being an only tortoise and quite frankly, after about a month, he started coming out of his shell (no pun intended). It was a little crowded in their tank with the two of them, so he is better off on his own without the competition of another tortoise. I make sure to talk to him everyday and he watches me and the cats from his tank. I like to make sure he gets out now and then to walk around my place because in tortoises like to get out and move around a lot. He’s a pretty cool little guy! I’ve grown quite fond of him.
@ Lily:
Saw their remnants at a small concert at L’Auberge du Lac a couple years back.
mjazz wrote:
“Dylan Hears a Who” was awesome. Make sure the site is safe before you download it.
mjazz wrote:
That’s from almost a year ago. I saw them last September, and he seemed fine (well, for him).
@ lobo91:
I saw Stewart at the Meadowlands back in the 70′s and it was one of the WORST performances by anyone I’d ever seen live…well, along with the Ramones… walked out on them twice !!
Check out the comment at the top of this article.. Remind you of anyone?
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/542171/201007301830/Will-Washingtons-Failures-Lead-To-Second-American-Revolution-.aspx
Bagua wrote:
You did? You must be close to me…L’Auberge is just across the bridge for me.
@ savage:
LOL!
The movie looks familiar but I can’t place it!
Tyler actually fell off the stage and hurt himself pretty bad. Then he announced his retirement. Its all those high blood pressure pills hes experimenting with
savages_girl wrote:
Did you listen to the song I put up for you?
4_Sticks wrote:
In the performance he did on American Idol, he looked like he’d had a stroke or something. I couldn’t believe they actually aired it.
And he was in the middle of a tour at the time!
@ lobo91:
Yeah, they came to the local casino in town. I got free tickets, as did most people there, the radio station was giving them out. They sounded really good actually. The singer didn’t move around on stage too much cause he just had back surgery but he was in good spirits and belted out all the old tunes.
4_Sticks wrote:
No doubt.
@ savage:
Really? First I’ve heard of that.
I’ve heard talk of Bret Michael from Poison replacing Simon Cowell, but then there was some other guy in the running for that too.
It will be a whole new show just about when it comes to the judges. Just not the same.
I think I only watched American Idol once or twice last year…
I’ve really gotten into Dancing With The Stars, as you well know…
@ Lily:
#221 – not bad. Nice and mellow…
lobo91 wrote:
He has lost his singing voice…that happens sometimes when you age.
savages_girl wrote:
Want another I have picked for you?
Heard any of this guy lately ? This was just before he teamed up with Alyson:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSt3x5HqiAA&feature=related
(don’t worry, no more sneakin’ in the Pistols)
@ savages_girl:
That’s a pretty informative link you have there. I wonder if I could keep one outside in a pen and bring it in in the winter.
@ lobo91:
yeah, depressing, isn’t it?
@ gulfloafer:
Cool.
I saw them once as an opening act (for Whitesnake, I think), and then about a year later on a triple bill with Tesla and Ratt in Jackson, MS.
@ 4_Sticks:
I heard a lot of people walk out on Dylan.
Lily wrote:
A few hours away by car, I flew about 45 minutes in their aircraft.
@ lobo91:
Yeah, those shades didn’t help.
@ lobo91:
Yes, the last time I saw him on performing (it may have been Idol), I was like, “Yikes! What happened?” His voice is shot.
@ Bagua:
Wow! Well you were in my neck of the woods.
Whoever’s programming the Sirius Classic Vinyl channel tonight is doing a good job…
@ 4_Sticks:
I heard all those guys went straight. But I’m sure when he hurt himself he didn’t mind taking something that was prescribed.
My sister saw him (Plant) a year or so ago in Chicago – called me from her cell phone and I listened to the concert over the phone. not the best quality obviously but I could ‘feel’ the crowd… pretty neat.
They threw in some old Zep stuff too. Welcome to the ’00s right ?
At least hes not regurging the same old ‘hits’. The ‘Mighty Rearranger’
(Plant/Strange Sensation band) was really a pretty dang good CD. I was surprised at how well HIS voice held up after all the high register singing he did over the years.
savages_girl wrote:
I was quoting, unless I was using it as an example of elitist jargon.
@ savages_girl:
I couldn’t believe how bad that was. They must not have even done a rehearsal or anything, because I can’t believe they would have put him on if they’d known how bad he sounded.
And I don’t think they announced it in advance, so nobody would’ve known if they cancelled that segment.
mjazz wrote:
Supposedly they did. That’s what they always say, anyway.
@ savages_girl:
I’ll say.
@ lobo91:
He has lost his singing voice.
@ Lily:
Yep, if I make it back there we will have lunch next time. It’s been a while though, usually end up in Las Vegas instead.
@ Lily:
yes, see my comment #258.
I’ve been skipping around trying to catch up…
@ lobo91:
I heard one guy was in the program and was thinking of picking up and supposedly Tyler called him.
@ 4_Sticks:
I was lucky enough to get tickets for the Denver show of the Clapton/Winwood tour last year.
I was surprised at how well Steve Winwood’s voice has held up.
And it’s really eerie how much he sounds like Ray Charles when he sings “Georgia On My Mind.”
Okay another tune……for mjazz…….
Y’all got these links ? Radio from all over the USA and the 2nd one all around the world – digital quality:
http://streamingradioguide.com/
and:
http://streamingradioguide.com/
This is FM from Belfast:
http://www.citybeat.co.uk/player_citybeat/player.html
pretty neat, especially the Belfast commercials (local Belfast).
I always have to remember to ignore the weather forecasts !
Speakin of the ‘weather’ – just looked at outside temp: 52. Damn, in July !!
@ 1389AD:
Classic benign stonerness.
Bagua wrote:
Deal!
4_Sticks wrote:
It’s only 65 here.
savages_girl wrote:
So am I skipping around yes I saw it so another for you…
@ mjazz:
Yes, actually you can.
In parts of the country where the climate is decent you can build them an outdoor enclosure. A couple of my books (well, at least one of them) goes into detail about how to do it and what you should have for them, etc. The more space they have, the better.
Also, some people will let them hibernate and you can ease them into hibernation. I’ve never felt comfortable doing that, although during the winter when there is less light, my tortoises have gone into their own “hibernation” for a while where they’ve burrowed in their bedding and stayed asleep for days or weeks. Hibernation is not necessary for their survival, so I try to keep the lighting in the tank and in the room in a way to mimic a normal day and night pattern. Also temperature. One end of the tank pretty warm (80′s) other end cooler and no heat (around 70′s). That way they can move about and regulate their body temperature. Plus he’s got his half log he can go under when he wants a little darkness and shade…
gulfloafer wrote:
Just bitchin’ and twitchin’.
@ Lily:
Thank you. That was nice!
@ Bunk X:
Ohhhhhh you are in the mood for some meerkats?
@ savages_girl:
Too bad humans lack that hibernation ability.
That could come in handy at times…
Bunk X wrote:
Copy, smokin’ & jokin’.
mjazz wrote:
Thought it appropiate (sp?)!
Where’s the down under crowd this evening? Lost? Aussie Infidel? This one’s for you…
Did any of you check out the ‘radio’ links I posted ?? Some serious sh*t there… I mean any station FM/AM, CD quality, your town, my town,
London whatever…easy as hell to use. Makes my receiver collection of Sansui/Pioneer vintage obsolete ! VERY handy links if ya like music.
My sister links over her cell phone which plays through he Caddys music system and she gets her local Chicago stations sans interference and better all around sound then her cars set up gets !
gulfloafer wrote:
Not weed or cigs. I don’t smoke in case anyone’s wondering. It’s an expression.
@ Lily:
#290 – LOVE that song!
BTO!
@ The Osprey:
Thought fer sure it was gonna be ‘vegemite sandwich’ (Men At Work – ‘Land Down Under”). !! Freakin’ 80′s…
@ lobo91:
man, you are not kidding about that!
savages_girl wrote:
Well another for you to make up Metillica, AC/DC and the such….
@ gulfloafer: Sayin’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9j25V4iw94&feature=related
@ 4_Sticks:
Thanks, I bookmarked that.
So mjazz – I was trying to paste a picture of a Russian Wood Tortoise and apparently pasted a link to the whole site. Sorry about that. I thought it was the tortoise picture…
@ savages_girl:
My brother had a sun turtle that disappeared one winter and then in the spring came out from under the bed.
@ Lily:
Journey – another great song!
4_Sticks wrote:
Nope…Slim Dusty. King of Australian “Bush Music”. Aussie equivalent of country.
@ savages_girl:
Actually it was better having all the information.8)
savages_girl wrote:
Girl we are the same wave length.
@ lobo91:
He just played here with Carlos Santana (Woodstock memorial or whatever…). I was invited but didn’t go. Read the reviews the next day and both apparently blew the crowd away – Santana they say out did his original Woodstock performance beyond anyones expectations. i guess the drummer from the original gig played with him. He was only 16 -17 (?) when he played Woodstock. Same age as I was actually. Windwood was 16 with Spencer Davis – sang Gimme Some Lovin’ like a 50 something year old soul man from the south side…
Kinda wish now I went ….
@ mjazz:
wow! that’s amazing that he was still alive.. he must have hibernated…
@ 4_Sticks:
Love the music – can’t STAND hippies…
@ savages_girl:
Yup.
Tarps and Trucks and Trailers…
4_Sticks wrote:
Hippies were in the 60′s……
Not the 70′s…….
@ savages_girl:
Have you seen the new singer for ‘Journey’ ?? i though the was doing karaoke when I first saw/heard him. A dead ringer for whats his name.
he sent the other band member’s a tape (maybe it was a karaoke tape) and they scapped him right up ! I think he’s from Japan or somewhere over that way…
@ Lily:
My dear, I pre date both !!
4_Sticks wrote:
Steve Perry?
@ 4_Sticks:
Really?
I didn’t even know Journey was still around!
The guy who’s singing with Boston now was working in a Home Depot when they found him. His wife posted some videos of him singing their stuff on Youtube or somehting, and they found him.
Kind of sounds like the movie Rock Star from a few years ago…
4_Sticks wrote:
I see…70′s were too layed back….long hair though…
We weren’t militant or any love-in’s.
somebody get me a cheeseburger
@ lobo91:
Boston came out with their first album and the second one took what- six years?
And I still have long hair LOL !! I’m an ex rock’n roller. Never mentioned it because the flyin’ a**hat over there made it embarrassing to say you are a ‘musician’ !! I use to sing all Stones material, had him down to a T in the 60′s.Left the band cause I h’ad to stop – I’m really susceptible to throat infections. Switched to drumming – still have my drums set up in the dining room where the dining room table use to be (pre divorce).
Ok, that was ’nuff late night admission.My lips are now forever sealed (again) on the subject. Thanks Chuckles….
@ The Osprey:
Great early morning roadtrip music, like this one. I’m taking the next exit, heading for the rest stop. See y’all tomorrow.
@ lobo91:
amazing.
Like that guy who was a mobile phone salesman who went onto one of the talent shows (Britain’s Got Talent or America’s Got Talent… something like that)… anyhow, the guys just this average looking guy and he starts singing and he has got this AMAZING voice! I wonder if I can find the video…
mjazz wrote:
It was the third one that took forever.
@ Bunk X:
Good night
@ Bunk X:
Later Bunk.
Savage’s_Girl another song for you….my husband said that this song reminds him of me….what a sweetie….
@ 4_Sticks:
That’s funny.
Yeah, I know a lot of singers get vocal nodes and have to stop singing to let their vocal chords heal and sometimes require surgery to fix their vocal chords.
I’ve always loved drums. I wanted to play them when I was a kid, but my older brother made me feel so guilty about having my mom buy me a used drum set for $90 that I just never learned drums.
So I played guitar (folk, country, a little rock). Not hard core rock and roller… I never got that good… just average…
And song wrote…
Haven’t done either in quite some time…
@ mjazz:
I saw Boston about 6 – 7 years ago. brad had a ‘back up’ singer for the high notes as well as several young guitarists. Shultz brought his young big boobed bass playing girl friend along of the tour. It SUCKED so bad I raised hell trying to get my money back. Shultz had his gf perform her original material too. I was obnoxious — I was sooo pissed !! Kept yelling for her to take her top off !! hey, it was embarrassingly obvious that she had ‘surgery’ and he (Shultz) was making a fool out of himself with her. We paid good money to see ‘Boston’ – not her.And she royally sucked.Forgot to list this one with the Stewart and Ramones rant above !!
@ Bunk X:
Good night Bunk! (blows kiss)
Bunk X wrote:
Nite Bunkx!
@ Lily:
Oh, I love that song!
Your husband is sweet and romantic
4_Sticks wrote:
Rockn’roller here too…but can’t sing or play….oh and love songs too!
savages_girl wrote:
Believe it or not he surprised me with that one.
/never would have thought of him thinking about that song for me.
Hence he loves Heavy Metal and such.
@ 4_Sticks:
What a rip. I had to laugh midway through your post though.
@ savages_girl:
I’m down to 3 sets now. Thinkin’ about selling ‘em all off as my boys don’t seem too interested in them. I have my 1st set too. Vintage Premeirs with a ‘Royal Ace’ picollo snare. Could fetch me some good $ on ebay. Some days I’m into ‘em, others not so much. i’m done with clasic rock really. been trying my hand at….oh sh*t, how do I say this LOL ???? J*zz…..ok, i’m finished here now right ?? LOL !!! I need more of a challenge actually, rock is just so old hat. Unless I’m in a rare nostalgic mood i really get bored with it all these days. I have guitars, keyboard and still fool around with my 1st love” the harp. Mouth that is ala Marine Band. I was a BIG Chicago blues fanatic for years….
Seriously, the whole lib/music thing is a big turn off to me now a days. they ruined it with their BIG FRIGGIN MOUTHS LOL !! Shut the F up and sing !! LOL !!
Don’t know how I managed to come to my senses early on and ‘escape’.
Think I got sick of all the excesses that went along with it all ruining peoples lives. I have many dead ex musician friends. Thats the other thing – no one left to play with anyhow LOL !! Seriously, all but one are gone !!
savages_girl wrote:
I’ve always liked this one, but I don’t have anyone to dedicate it to…
@ Lily:
Savage’s_Girl one more and I am out ….
Dman, 3:30 am here again… I keep forgettin’ its only 1 or 2 for many of you !! An old man must get his sleep ! Don’t wanna pull an Entwistle here LOl !! Nite all !! And HEY !! I’m serious !! Check out those radio links I posted – if you don’t have ‘em, you are REALLY missing out !!
Trust me !!
Well, time for me to go to bed.
So with this, I bid you adieu!
@ 4_Sticks:
You can say it, I don’t mind.8)
@ mjazz:
Oh, didn’t see that…you’re gonna luv it !!
last minute catch up – yes, Steve Perry, thanx. I think theres video of him (the new guy) with Journey on the ‘tube. I can’t look now though, gonna pass out any second. Just remembered I NEVER ATE DINNER !!
I’m gonna soooooo pay for this in the a.m. usually starts with headaches.. forgettin’ to eat dinner…jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh… getiin’ scary.
‘Nite all you WONDERFUL PEOPLE !!!!! Don’t forget to let the cat(s) in and hit the porch light will ya ?? We ain’t lighting the whole damn county !!!!
4_Sticks wrote:
Looks like Steven Perry? Actually he’s from the Philippines, and Journey Guitarist Neal Schon saw him on youtube, and as they say, the rest is history!
lobo91 wrote:
What a song!!!! Wonderful…..you will some day have someone to dedicate it to though. Chin up ole chap! That is a comming.
@ 4_Sticks:
P.S. I love jazz. I love lots of kinds of music.
My younger brother is a saxophonist. He has his regular job, but he’s been playing gigs for over 25 years. He plays with a 30 piece swing band and also with a jazz quartet. He’s recorded a CD with the swing band and he was the lead sax. I think he’s pretty good, but I am biased.
Good night everybody!
Nite all and sweet dreams!
I’m out, too.
Leia’s staring at me. I think that means it’s bed time.
Good night.
Nite everybody. It doesn’t take us as long as the Waltons… yet.
Hey a quick drive-by. Unbelievable, more evidence of north korea, is highly dysfunctionality:
North Korean football team shamed in six-hour public inquiry over World Cup
savages_girl wrote:
Some types of turtles do hibernate during the winter. If they can’t make a den outdoors they’ll find whatever looks suitable indoors.
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