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Voice of the Resistance!

by Kafir ( 132 Comments › )
Filed under Blogmocracy, Media, Multiculturalism, Political Correctness at August 5th, 2010 - 9:00 pm

Tonight we will have a special guest call in ~ Shelomo Alfassá. A snippet from his bio page:

Shelomo Alfassá oversees Special Projects for a national Jewish organization based at the Center for Jewish History in New York City. He specializes in the history of Jews from both Iberia (Spain and Portugal) and the Ottoman Empire (the former Turkish empire including Ottoman Palestine, etc.). From 2006-2009 he was U.S. Director of Justice for Jews from Arab Countries (JJAC) where he successfully helped develop H.Res.185, an historic resolution recognizing rights of Jews displaced from Arab countries which was unanimously approved by the U.S. Congress on April 1, 2008.

Mr. Alfassá is the founder and former Executive Director of the International Sephardic Leadership Council and the editor of the award winning International Sephardic Journal. Well known as an international advocate for Sephardic Jewry, Mr. Alfassá served as former Director of Research and Development for Sephardic House in New York City and for four years he served as a vice-president of the Foundation for the Advancement of Sephardic Studies and Culture. He was a staff consultant to both the Sephardic Educational Center and the Shehebar Sephardic Center (Midrash Sefaradi) in Jerusalem.

In 2005, he successfully worked with the U.S. Congress to bring about greater representation for Sephardic victims of the Holocaust (specifically Jews from Arab countries) at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM). In 2003, Mr. Alfassá traveled to Poland representing Sephardic Jews in the United States as part of Judéo-Espagnol A Auschwitz, a successful multi-national campaign that sought recognition for Sephardic Holocaust victims that perished at Auschwitz.

Mr. Alfassá’s articles and papers on Jewish history and politics have appeared in numerous media outlets; his books include Ethnic Sephardic Jews in the Medical Literature; Reference Guide to the Nazis and Arabs During the Holocaust; A Window Into Old Jerusalem; History, Politics & Loss; The Palm Tree of Deborah and The Sephardic Anousim. Mr. Alfassá’s family is from the Ottoman island of Rhodes and Ottoman Edirne, Turkey. He has lived in New York, Florida, California, Colorado and Jerusalem.



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  1. savages_girl
    1 | August 5, 2010 9:00 pm

    Show time!


  2. savages_girl
    2 | August 5, 2010 9:01 pm

    How come Rodan sounds so tired?


  3. 3 | August 5, 2010 9:10 pm

    savages_girl wrote:

    How come Rodan sounds so tired?

    It’s early. He’s just warming up. Wait’ll the Special Guest comes on.


  4. 4 | August 5, 2010 9:16 pm

    “Cold Civil War” is right.


  5. savages_girl
    5 | August 5, 2010 9:17 pm

    I have to say, I feel the same way as these guys and I was wondering if it was just me. It feels like our elected government officials have just run amuck and do whatever the hell they please with total disregard for what the majority of the American people really want. It’s like it doesn’t matter to them. Very discouraging.


  6. buzzsawmonkey
    6 | August 5, 2010 9:17 pm

    Obooma bomb!


  7. savages_girl
    7 | August 5, 2010 9:26 pm

    Thank you Rodan!

    You’re right -- there is nothing wrong with renting!

    I know a lot of people don’t agree… but I am perfectly content renting an apartment…


  8. coldwarrior
    8 | August 5, 2010 9:28 pm

    hola!


  9. savages_girl
    9 | August 5, 2010 9:31 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Hola!

    como esta?


  10. savages_girl
    10 | August 5, 2010 9:32 pm

    I love Speranza!

    He’s ON FIRE! :)


  11. m
    11 | August 5, 2010 9:32 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    ¿qué pasaaaaaaaa?


  12. coldwarrior
    12 | August 5, 2010 9:34 pm

    @ savages_girl:
    @ m:

    nothin…just listening

    how are yinz


  13. savages_girl
    13 | August 5, 2010 9:36 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    doing OK. Work has been hellish…


  14. 15 | August 5, 2010 9:37 pm

    The worst thing that a government can do is institute rent controls. That was the status here in Ontario for years until the late 90′s. Once the rent controls were removed affordable rental housing increased. Of course there was the minor rent inflation after the controls were removed. The market eventually stabilized.


  15. coldwarrior
    16 | August 5, 2010 9:38 pm

    savages_girl wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    doing OK. Work has been hellish…

    Nietzsche will tell you: that which does not kill us will make us stronger.


  16. Eliana
    17 | August 5, 2010 9:38 pm

    It’s a war of attrition.


  17. savages_girl
    18 | August 5, 2010 9:39 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Like forging a sword…


  18. coldwarrior
    19 | August 5, 2010 9:40 pm

    savages_girl wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Like forging a sword…

    quite.


  19. buzzsawmonkey
    20 | August 5, 2010 9:41 pm

    Rentals become “affordable” when there is a large supply. Brooklyn has experienced, in recent years, its first building boom in fifty years. I look forward to the many apartments built as high-end condos becoming rentals which reduce the overall price of rentals; lest people forget, the neighborhood of Bedford-Stuyvesant, which has been a slum for fifty years, was built as high-end private homes a hundred and twenty or so years ago. It became a slum when people with money left it to go elsewhere, and is now coming back up as people take advantage of slum-housing prices to buy nice or formerly-nice houses for less than they’d cost elsewhere.

    There are many black folks whose families have lived in Bed-Stuy for some fifty/sixty who are yammering about how “racist” it is for people to come in and displace them. No, idiots—it’s economic. You and your families got to move in to high-end housing decades ago because other people left it; now people who want to take advantage of what their money will buy are coming back in. Nothing about black, or white—it’s the green.


  20. savages_girl
    21 | August 5, 2010 9:41 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    I’m getting a helluva sharp edge…


  21. snork
    22 | August 5, 2010 9:41 pm

    @ PaladinPhil:
    Rent control in New York is a seven-peckered billygoat.


  22. 23 | August 5, 2010 9:42 pm

    savages_girl wrote:

    Thank you Rodan!
    You’re right – there is nothing wrong with renting!
    I know a lot of people don’t agree… but I am perfectly content renting an apartment…

    There’s a lot to be said about renting. No responsibility for taxes or maintenance, but you are paying for the Owner’s equity instead of generating your own.


  23. 24 | August 5, 2010 9:43 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    Hogs roamed Lower Manhattan where mega-mosque is planned

    Yay! How cool is that?! Can we build a trendy spa for hogs there now?


  24. snork
    25 | August 5, 2010 9:44 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Rent control is a good way to turn high-end housing into slums. If a landlord can’t make money, he’s not going to keep the place up.


  25. m
    26 | August 5, 2010 9:44 pm

    @ snork:

    !


  26. 27 | August 5, 2010 9:44 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    Hogs roamed Lower Manhattan where mega-mosque is planned

    Harleys? Bikers?


  27. snork
    28 | August 5, 2010 9:44 pm

    Bunk X wrote:

    There’s a lot to be said about renting. No responsibility for taxes or maintenance, but you are paying for the Owner’s equity instead of generating your own.

    These days, equity keeps dropping.


  28. rain of lead
    29 | August 5, 2010 9:45 pm

    hey ya’ll
    check this sh*t out

    Texas declares war on the EPA!

    And that is no overstatement – I *strongly* recommend you go to this link and read this official response from Bryan Shaw, head of the TCEQ (the State regulatory body) and Greg Abbott, the Texas Attorney General, to Lisa Jackson and the EPA.

    I have *never* read an official government document that is this bitter and contemptuous of the Federal level – I never thought I would! This is damn close to a new Declaration of Independance.

    I’ll reprint a few excerpts, because William Travis himself would be proud of these words:

    “In order to deter challenges to your plan for centralized control of industrial development through the issuance of permits for greenhouse gases, you have called upon each state to declare its allegiance to the Environmental Protection Agency’s recently enacted greenhouse gas regulations — regulations that are plainly contrary to United States law.”

    “On behalf of the state of Texas, we write to inform you that Texas has neither the authority nor the intention of interpreting, ignoring, or amending its laws in order to compel the permitting of greenhouse gas emissions.

    But they save their best shots for the end:

    Each of these objections to EPA’s demand for a Loyalty Oath from the State of Texas would suffice to justify our refusal to make one. Indeed, it is an affront to congressionally-established judicial review process for EPA to force states to pledge allegiance to its rules (or forfeit their right to permit) on the final day by which states must exercise their statutory right to challenge those same rules. Texas will not facilitate EPA’s apparent attempt to thwart these established procedures and ignore the law…. Those objections will now be resolved in litigation now pending in the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals.

    DAMN!
    don’t mess with texas


  29. savages_girl
    30 | August 5, 2010 9:46 pm

    @ Bunk X:
    True, but when something’s broken, someone comes and fixes it (and not at my (extra) expense).


  30. Eliana
    31 | August 5, 2010 9:46 pm

    @ Bunk X:

    There’s a lot to be said about renting. No responsibility for taxes or maintenance, but you are paying for the Owner’s equity instead of generating your own.

    If you’re renting, you can build up and hold onto your savings rather than putting so much of it into a large down payment.


  31. coldwarrior
    32 | August 5, 2010 9:47 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    these are the steps i am talking about!

    the states need to push the feds to try and enforce, and then ignore them


  32. buzzsawmonkey
    33 | August 5, 2010 9:47 pm

    snork wrote:

    Rent control is a good way to turn high-end housing into slums. If a landlord can’t make money, he’s not going to keep the place up.

    Rent control did actually provide an incentive for landlords to upgrade their buildings somewhat; way back when, controls gave a bonus for changing cold-water flats to apartments with central heating. But that was a long, long time ago.

    ‘Course, rent controlled apartments are diminishing almost daily in NY, and rent-stabilized apartments now go off stabilization once they reach a certain rent level. It’s not that big a deal anymore, though you’d never know it to hear the landlords yowl.


  33. savages_girl
    34 | August 5, 2010 9:47 pm

    @ Eliana:

    hold onto your savings

    what savings???


  34. snork
    35 | August 5, 2010 9:48 pm

    savages_girl wrote:

    True, but when something’s broken, someone comes and fixes it (and not at my (extra) expense).

    And you don’t walk into Home Depot looking for a light bulb, and walking out with a $1200 jacuzzi. 8O


  35. rain of lead
    36 | August 5, 2010 9:49 pm

    in local news
    in our primary here Tn district 6
    looks like it’s gonna flip in november
    the repubs are casting more than 3 times the number of dems


  36. savages_girl
    37 | August 5, 2010 9:49 pm

    @ snork:
    TRUE!


  37. coldwarrior
    38 | August 5, 2010 9:50 pm

    snork wrote:

    savages_girl wrote:
    True, but when something’s broken, someone comes and fixes it (and not at my (extra) expense).
    And you don’t walk into Home Depot looking for a light bulb, and walking out with a $1200 jacuzzi.

    oooh, i’ve been there!

    :lol:


  38. 39 | August 5, 2010 9:51 pm

    @ Eliana:

    I regret buying.

    :-(


  39. Eliana
    40 | August 5, 2010 9:52 pm

    @ Rodan:

    What kind of a place do you have?


  40. 41 | August 5, 2010 9:53 pm

    @ Eliana:

    Condo/Townhome.


  41. buzzsawmonkey
    42 | August 5, 2010 9:54 pm

    ‘Nite, gang.


  42. 43 | August 5, 2010 9:55 pm

    snork wrote:

    Bunk X wrote:
    There’s a lot to be said about renting. No responsibility for taxes or maintenance, but you are paying for the Owner’s equity instead of generating your own.

    These days, equity keeps dropping.

    Short term, yes.


  43. 44 | August 5, 2010 9:56 pm

    savages_girl wrote:

    @ Bunk X:
    True, but when something’s broken, someone comes and fixes it (and not at my (extra) expense).

    That’s what I said. You don’t have to mow your own grass either.


  44. coldwarrior
    45 | August 5, 2010 9:57 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Eliana:
    I regret buying.

    hey boss…look at 29!


  45. 46 | August 5, 2010 9:58 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    You called it!


  46. Eliana
    47 | August 5, 2010 9:59 pm

    In the news:

    Judge: Runaway Christian Girl Not Required to Reunite With Muslim Parents

    This is great news!

    She also won’t be deported.


  47. Eliana
    48 | August 5, 2010 10:00 pm

    Correction -- I think she’s still working against deportation, but the decision above paves the way for this fight.

    COLUMBUS, Ohio — A juvenile court judge in Columbus, Ohio, has granted a runaway Christian convert’s request to declare reunion with her Muslim parents impossible, paving the way for the girl to fight deportation.


  48. JacksonTn
    49 | August 5, 2010 10:00 pm

    Rain … how did that Heil woman do in your district .. I meet one of her campaign workers when I was downtown getting come permits … I am not in her district … but told her that I was supporting her and that I knew friends who were …


  49. savages_girl
    50 | August 5, 2010 10:00 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    good night buzz


  50. coldwarrior
    51 | August 5, 2010 10:00 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    You called it!

    aallllllletttttssss get ready to rumble!


  51. m
    52 | August 5, 2010 10:00 pm

    @ Eliana:

    FANTASTIC!!


  52. m
    53 | August 5, 2010 10:02 pm

    @ Eliana:

    Oh man! They had better not send her to her death!


  53. Eliana
    54 | August 5, 2010 10:05 pm

    @ m:

    She’s won the current round and it paves the way to fight against deportation, so it seems that there might be a good chance to win the second fight.


  54. rain of lead
    55 | August 5, 2010 10:06 pm

    @ JacksonTn:

    hey JT!
    how the hell are ya!
    I’m just watching the 6th dist between lou ann Zelnick and Diane Black
    DB is leading by 3 points

    here is a link if you want to check anything out

    http://www.politico.com/2010/maps/


  55. 56 | August 5, 2010 10:08 pm

    @ m:
    @ Eliana:

    Let’s keep our fingers crossed.


  56. Eliana
    57 | August 5, 2010 10:09 pm

    I agree that if Iran is hit, the hit must be against the military.

    Iran’s Republican Guard threatens Israel almost as much as Ahmadinejad himself.


  57. 58 | August 5, 2010 10:10 pm

    @ Eliana:

    The IRG trains Hizballah, Hamas and Al-Qaeda. They are the daddy of the islamic Imperialists.


  58. 59 | August 5, 2010 10:12 pm

    savages_girl wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    good night buzz

    Working on it…


  59. rain of lead
    60 | August 5, 2010 10:14 pm

    Bunk X wrote:

    savages_girl wrote:
    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    good night buzz
    Working on it…

    *blink**blink*
    bwahahahahahahahaha


  60. unclassifiable
    61 | August 5, 2010 10:14 pm

    @ Eliana:

    The fact of the matter is that if we focus on just the military then it inevitably means boots on the ground.

    Never with this US administration.

    /although O could dream of this as a “stimulus package” coupled with a return of the draft (that ought to take care of that unemployment problem huh?


  61. savages_girl
    62 | August 5, 2010 10:14 pm

    coldwarrior! DDT is bad!

    It was thinning all the shells of birds. It was true.

    It’s a horrible chemical… yuck-ee-poo.


  62. 63 | August 5, 2010 10:15 pm

    I remember using DDT in Cyprus back in 1989 to help deal with a roach infestation in one of the barracks we were staying in at the time.


  63. unclassifiable
    64 | August 5, 2010 10:16 pm

    @ savages_girl:

    Yeah but just target mosquitoes…

    /micro robotic tech


  64. snork
    65 | August 5, 2010 10:17 pm

    savages_girl wrote:

    It’s a horrible chemical… yuck-ee-poo.

    Tastes like Listerine. Ucky ptooey.


  65. savages_girl
    66 | August 5, 2010 10:18 pm

    Do we have to do Chucky bashing when the conversation is still going good on the topics we were discussing?


  66. savages_girl
    67 | August 5, 2010 10:18 pm

    @ snork:
    Ick, Listerine… I only like the citrus-flavored one…


  67. unclassifiable
    68 | August 5, 2010 10:19 pm

    @ savages_girl:

    Chucky who (or what)?


  68. savages_girl
    69 | August 5, 2010 10:20 pm

    @ unclassifiable:
    (high five!)


  69. coldwarrior
    70 | August 5, 2010 10:21 pm

    savages_girl wrote:

    Do we have to do Chucky bashing when the conversation is still going good on the topics we were discussing?

    its part of the show, unfortunately…


  70. savages_girl
    71 | August 5, 2010 10:21 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    I know (sigh)…


  71. coldwarrior
    72 | August 5, 2010 10:23 pm

    @ savages_girl:

    go natasha!!!

    its worth it!


  72. coldwarrior
    73 | August 5, 2010 10:23 pm

    VLAAAMMS BELANG!!!!

    KUK KUK


  73. 74 | August 5, 2010 10:24 pm

    =)


  74. coldwarrior
    75 | August 5, 2010 10:24 pm

    :lol:


  75. unclassifiable
    76 | August 5, 2010 10:26 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Oh now you’ve done it.

    /I don’t really feel that way but is an obligatory thing some numbnutz will eventually say anyway


  76. 77 | August 5, 2010 10:26 pm

    savages_girl wrote:

    coldwarrior! DDT is bad!
    It was thinning all the shells of birds. It was true.
    It’s a horrible chemical… yuck-ee-poo.

    Oh dear god, please tell me you know that that was not true..


  77. coldwarrior
    78 | August 5, 2010 10:27 pm

    heard cato just got deleted


  78. unclassifiable
    79 | August 5, 2010 10:27 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    savages_girl wrote:
    coldwarrior! DDT is bad!
    It was thinning all the shells of birds. It was true.
    It’s a horrible chemical… yuck-ee-poo.

    Oh dear god, please tell me you know that that was not true..

    Besides, if it kills those birds that shit on my car well then f’em


  79. savages_girl
    80 | August 5, 2010 10:28 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    and I suppose you think Thalidimyde was safe too?

    Yes, I think DDT is bad.


  80. unclassifiable
    81 | August 5, 2010 10:28 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Cato who?

    /who are these assholes?


  81. Eliana
    82 | August 5, 2010 10:30 pm

    @ unclassifiable:

    The fact of the matter is that if we focus on just the military then it inevitably means boots on the ground.

    No, I don’t think this will be necessary.

    Their weapons need to be attacked from the air and they can die with them. The main thing is that they can’t be allowed to hit America and Israel no matter what’s going on.

    The nuclear sites can also be hit after they’ve been neutralized.


  82. m
    83 | August 5, 2010 10:31 pm

    You can hear the rest on archives if you’re not on the line!


  83. coldwarrior
    84 | August 5, 2010 10:31 pm

    @ Eliana:

    hmmmm….lemme get my mind around that possibility…


  84. unclassifiable
    85 | August 5, 2010 10:32 pm

    @ savages_girl:

    Thalidomide and multiple myeloma.

    Still useful


  85. Eliana
    86 | August 5, 2010 10:32 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    heard cato just got deleted

    Just now?


  86. rain of lead
    87 | August 5, 2010 10:32 pm

    bing cherries are the pits


  87. Eliana
    88 | August 5, 2010 10:33 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I think Israel is aiming for regime change in Iran.

    The only long-term solution is to make it possible for the people of Iran to overthrow the Islamic revolution in Iran.


  88. coldwarrior
    89 | August 5, 2010 10:33 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    bing cherries are the pits

    thanks for the texas thing on your 29…hat tip to you.


  89. coldwarrior
    90 | August 5, 2010 10:34 pm

    @ Eliana:

    i need to see a map…gimme a minute.


  90. chickadee
    91 | August 5, 2010 10:34 pm

    Eliana wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:

    heard cato just got deleted

    Just now?

    Does deleted mean banned? As in thrown under the bus.


  91. unclassifiable
    92 | August 5, 2010 10:35 pm

    @ Eliana:

    Well I think my point is that the Republican Guard pretty much needs to be hunted down man by man because this is the group of thugs that currently would be holding any nuclear weapons — fissionable, fusion-based, or just dirty.

    Bad stuff to think about but we must. The jackasses are fanatics.


  92. coldwarrior
    93 | August 5, 2010 10:35 pm

    Eliana wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I think Israel is aiming for regime change in Iran.
    The only long-term solution is to make it possible for the people of Iran to overthrow the Islamic revolution in Iran.

    that would be the ideal end there…


  93. coldwarrior
    94 | August 5, 2010 10:36 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    Eliana wrote:
    @ coldwarrior:
    heard cato just got deleted
    Just now?

    Does deleted mean banned? As in thrown under the bus.

    i heard deleted…so who knows.


  94. coldwarrior
    95 | August 5, 2010 10:37 pm

    overnight thread is up…going there.


  95. snowcrash
    96 | August 5, 2010 10:37 pm

    @ chickadee:
    Nah, I saw the post in the chat. He was begging for friends to email him when certain other posters were not around.


  96. Bordm
    97 | August 5, 2010 10:38 pm

    @ savages_girl:

    DDT


  97. rain of lead
    98 | August 5, 2010 10:39 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    thank you sir
    I’m just an internet squirrel running around collecting nuts of information and bringing them back to the home tree

    glad I found a big un’


  98. savages_girl
    99 | August 5, 2010 10:39 pm

    @ unclassifiable:
    or this and this


  99. chickadee
    100 | August 5, 2010 10:39 pm

    Eliana wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:

    I think Israel is aiming for regime change in Iran.

    The only long-term solution is to make it possible for the people of Iran to overthrow the Islamic revolution in Iran.

    That is exactly what needs to happen. So Air France can resume flights from Israel to Teheran again.
    Like when the Shah was in power.


  100. Bordm
    101 | August 5, 2010 10:40 pm

    @ savages_girl:
    Rachel Carson

    “Cultural myths often stand in the way of human progress—in some cases producing devastating consequences. In fact, today millions of people around the world suffer the painful and often deadly effects of malaria because one person sounded a false alarm. That person is Rachel Carson, author of the 1962 best selling book Silent Spring. Many have praised Carson for raising concerns—some legitimate—about problems associated with the overuse of chemicals. Yet her extreme rhetoric generated a culture of fear, resulting in policies have deprived many people access to life-saving chemicals. In particular, many nations curbed the use of the pesticide DDT for malaria control because Carson created unfounded fears about the chemical.”


  101. coldwarrior
    102 | August 5, 2010 10:41 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    thank you sir
    I’m just an internet squirrel running around collecting nuts of information and bringing them back to the home tree
    glad I found a big un’

    huge…its huge.

    this is what i’ve been talking about for weeks now.

    the states have to say ‘enough, we arent playing anymore’


  102. 103 | August 5, 2010 10:42 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    heard cato just got deleted

    Official flounce? Linky? Hint?


  103. coldwarrior
    104 | August 5, 2010 10:42 pm

    @ Bordm:

    another prog responsible for 30 million dead.

    30 million.


  104. savages_girl
    105 | August 5, 2010 10:43 pm

    @ Bordm:
    Thanks


  105. 106 | August 5, 2010 10:45 pm

    savages_girl wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    and I suppose you think Thalidimyde was safe too?
    Yes, I think DDT is bad.

    You have been lied to, period end of story. The notion that DDT was a dangerous chemical was the brain child of radical Marxist enviro-wacko Rachel Carson, who wrote the Marxist propaganda hand book Silent Spring in which she made unsupported assertion regarding DDT that were accepted as true even though the research to verify her claims was never done. Rachel Carson was the mother of the modern environmentalist movement, they are just another wing of the Marxist progressive movement.

    MYTH: DDT causes all kinds of cancers, and nearly wiped out every bird in the world.

    TRUTH: DDT saves lives.

    Malaria will kill more than one thousand children before you finish reading this book. The chemical DDT is at the core of the problem-not the use of DDT, but the failure to use it because of media hysteria. In Uganda alone, said minister of health Jim Muhwezi, “We are losing between two million and three million people a year.” Think of it: Millions die because the media gets it wrong.

    You are probably saying, “What is he talking about? DDT is awful!” But it isn’t. DDT is capable of doing far more good than harm. You just don’t know that, because some people, including reporters, are terrified of DDT.

    Here’s how it happened: Fifty years ago, Americans sprayed DDT everywhere. Farmers used it to repel bugs, and health officials to fight mosquitoes that carry malaria. Nobody worried much about chemicals then. It was a shock to watch the old videos my producer found: People at picnics just sat and kept eating while trucks sprayed thick white clouds of DDT on top of them. In fact, when the trucks came to spray, some people ran toward them-as if an ice cream truck had come-they were so happy to have mosquitoes repelled. Tons of DDT were sprayed on food and people.

    Despite this overuse, there was no surge in cancer or any other human injury. Scientists found no evidence that spraying DDT seriously hurt people. It did cause some harm: It threatened bird populations by thinning the shells of their eggs.

    In 1962, the book Silent Spring by Rachel Carson made the damage famous and helped instill our fear of chemicals. The book raised some serious questions about the use of DDT, but the legitimate nature of those questions was lost in the media feeding frenzy that followed. DDT was a “Killer Chemical!” and the press was off on another fear campaign.

    It turns out DDT itself wasn’t the problem-the problem was that much too much was sprayed. That’s often true with chemicals; it’s the dose that matters. We need water, for example, but six feet of it will kill us.

    In the 1950s we sprayed DDT indiscriminately, but it only takes a tiny amount to prevent the spread of malaria. If sprayed on walls of an African hut, a small amount will keep mosquitoes at bay for half a year. That makes it a wonderful malaria fighter. But today DDT is rarely used to fight malaria because environmentalists’ demonization of it causes others to shun it.

    That frustrates Dr. Amir Attaran, who researched the issue at Harvard University. “If it’s a chemical, it must be bad,” he told us. “If it’s DDT, it must be awful. And that’s fine if you’re a rich white environmentalist. It’s not so fine if you’re a poor black kid who is about to lose his life from malaria.” Uganda’s health minister angrily asked us: “How many people do they want us to lose before we use DDT?” Good question.

    The U.S. government does spend your tax dollars trying to fight malaria in Africa, but it has not spent a penny on DDT. The money goes for things like mosquito netting over beds (even though not everyone in Africa even has a bed). The office that dispenses those funds, the Agency for International Development, acknowledges DDT is safe.

    I went to the State Department to interview the USAID official in charge of international health. With a straight face, she denied that their no-funds-for-DDT policy had anything to do with being “environmentally correct.” I felt like I was talking to a robot.

    DR. ANNE PETERSON I would recommend that if those who want to use [DDT for] indoor spraying, that they can and should. And it is definitely less harmful than dying and being exposed to malaria.

    STOSSEL But you won’t pay for it?

    DR. ANNE PETERSON Currently we don’t pay for it.

    STOSSEL This is pathetic. Millions of people are dying and you, to be politically correct, are saying, “No, we don’t want to pay for DDT.”

    DR. ANNE PETERSON I believe that the strategies we are using are as effective as spraying with DDT. And we are getting them out as far and as fast as we can. So, politically correct or not, I am very confident that what we are doing is the right strategy.

    The right strategy? Dr. Attaran has a better perspective: “If I were to characterize what USAID does on malaria, I’d call it medical malpractice. I would call it murderous.”

    After my interview with Dr. Peterson, USAID said it has reconsidered its policy, and it may fund spraying of DDT.

    We’ll see. For now, millions die while USAID dithers.

    The agency was simply responding to media hysteria. Media hysteria invites politicians to do the wrong thing. In this case, the result of the media getting it so wrong is millions of deaths.

    Media attention also kills reputations, particularly when sensationalism and the herd mentality are in play. Serious subjects, worthy of careful examination, are often treated with a kind of journalistic shorthand that cheats readers and viewers, while ruining lives. In this next example, innocent children became unknowing pawns.


  106. unclassifiable
    107 | August 5, 2010 10:47 pm

    @ savages_girl:

    Well understandably deformed children and the thin-shelled bird eggs (except for the aforementioned shit birds) is bad stuff but the DDT trade-off is a no brainer.


  107. 108 | August 5, 2010 10:47 pm

    @ Eliana:

    That sounds realistic.


  108. coldwarrior
    109 | August 5, 2010 10:47 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    that murderous cunt rachel carson is from pgh…i am ashamed of that


  109. huckfunn
    110 | August 5, 2010 10:49 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    hey ya’ll
    check this sh*t out

    Texas declares war on the EPA!

    And that is no overstatement – I *strongly* recommend you go to this link and read this official response from Bryan Shaw, head of the TCEQ (the State regulatory body) and Greg Abbott, the Texas Attorney General, to Lisa Jackson and the EPA.

    I have *never* read an official government document that is this bitter and contemptuous of the Federal level – I never thought I would! This is damn close to a new Declaration of Independance.

    Hey, Rain: Thanks for putting that up. The Austin UnAmerican Mis-Statement (that’s the local rag) and the local TV news have totally squelched this news. Here’s a PDF of the letter.
    Also Obowmao will be in Austin on Monday to speak at UT and conduct a fundraiser for the DNC. HAW!! Bill White, the dim gubenatorial candidate who’s running against Rick Perry has discovered that he has other thing to do that day. Something about organizing his sock drawer. Hands Off Texas will be holding a rally that day on the south steps of the Capitol. I’ll be there and get some pics that I can post. DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS


  110. chickadee
    111 | August 5, 2010 10:50 pm

    Bordm wrote:

    @ savages_girl:
    Rachel Carson

    “Cultural myths often stand in the way of human progress—in some cases producing devastating consequences. In fact, today millions of people around the world suffer the painful and often deadly effects of malaria because one person sounded a false alarm. That person is Rachel Carson, author of the 1962 best selling book Silent Spring. Many have praised Carson for raising concerns—some legitimate—about problems associated with the overuse of chemicals. Yet her extreme rhetoric generated a culture of fear, resulting in policies have deprived many people access to life-saving chemicals. In particular, many nations curbed the use of the pesticide DDT for malaria control because Carson created unfounded fears about the chemical.”

    The hysteria that this alarmist scrunt incited, has resulted in the pain, suffering and death of millions of human beings around the world. That is her legacy.


  111. coldwarrior
    112 | August 5, 2010 10:50 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    hey huck…how about giving us a writeup on all that?


  112. Bordm
    113 | August 5, 2010 10:52 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Bordm:
    another prog responsible for 30 million dead.
    30 million.

    I say much closer to 40+ million so far, the other mass murderers are surely jealous of her score…

    As of June 1 2002,

    “Now, thirty years later, it is vividly apparent that DDT was not hazardous to human health and that the banning of its domestic use led to its diminished production in the United States — and less availability of DDT for the developing world. The results were disastrous: at least 1-2 million people continue to die from malaria each year, 30-60 million or more lives needlessly lost since the ban took effect. This is especially tragic since there was hope of eradicating the disease altogether when DDT was first introduced and its potential was recognized.”


  113. snowcrash
    114 | August 5, 2010 10:53 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    Huck, I am sending my son down to Austin in 3 weeks. LOL


  114. JacksonTn
    115 | August 5, 2010 10:54 pm

    savage girl .. yes DDT is bad but so is malaria … so you weigh your battles … how many in Africa die from malaria? … we are faced all the time with bans on certain things that are said to be bad in pesticides and herbicides … but what exactly is the over/under on the damage …


  115. Bordm
    116 | August 5, 2010 10:55 pm

    savages_girl wrote:

    @ Bordm:
    Thanks

    You’re welcome. I like to think we are here to help each other get the facts about issues. I learn new things here on a regular basis.


  116. 117 | August 5, 2010 10:55 pm

    savages_girl wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    and I suppose you think Thalidimyde was safe too?
    Yes, I think DDT is bad.

    You are mistaken. DDT is completely non-toxic to humans, yet is VERY effective in controlling mosquito-borne lethal diseases. Banning DDT caused the deaths of 100,000′s or more in 3rd world countries.


  117. coldwarrior
    118 | August 5, 2010 10:57 pm

    @ Bordm:

    i low ball the number for a reason.


  118. huckfunn
    119 | August 5, 2010 10:58 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    hey huck…how about giving us a writeup on all that?

    You got it! I’ll find out who all will be there and see what I can line up. Brendon Steinhauser of Freedom Works is the son of a good friend of mine and he’ll be there as well as Donna Campbell who is running against Lloyd Dogget, our Congressional Commissar. I’ll get to work on it.


  119. 120 | August 5, 2010 10:58 pm

    Bordm wrote:

    I say much closer to 40+ million so far, the other mass murderers are surely jealous of her score…

    She will have a place in hell right next to her peers, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Chairman Mao and Pol Pot.


  120. coldwarrior
    121 | August 5, 2010 11:00 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    @ huckfunn:
    hey huck…how about giving us a writeup on all that?

    You got it! I’ll find out who all will be there and see what I can line up. Brendon Steinhauser of Freedom Works is the son of a good friend of mine and he’ll be there as well as Donna Campbell who is running against Lloyd Dogget, our Congressional Commissar. I’ll get to work on it.

    EXCELLENT!


  121. coldwarrior
    122 | August 5, 2010 11:01 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Bordm wrote:
    I say much closer to 40+ million so far, the other mass murderers are surely jealous of her score…
    She will have a place in hell right next to her peers, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Chairman Mao and Pol Pot.

    a special place in hell for her


  122. Bordm
    123 | August 5, 2010 11:02 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    She will have a place in hell right next to her peers, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Chairman Mao and Pol Pot.

    The difference is Rachel is still running up her score from the grave.


  123. 124 | August 5, 2010 11:02 pm

    JacksonTn wrote:

    savage girl .. yes DDT is bad but so is malaria … so you weigh your battles … how many in Africa die from malaria? … we are faced all the time with bans on certain things that are said to be bad in pesticides and herbicides … but what exactly is the over/under on the damage …

    Wrong. Completely wrong. Even the chemist who came up with the effective pesticide drank a glass of the stuff with no ill effects. Rachel Carson created an hysteria.

    Now, for someone to compare Thalidomide with DDT is beyond the valley of ignorant.


  124. coldwarrior
    125 | August 5, 2010 11:07 pm

    @ Bunk X:

    WW@ troops in the pacific used to soak their gear in it. no ill effect.

    but then again, those dudes were something special


  125. Possum
    126 | August 5, 2010 11:09 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    She will have a place in hell right next to her peers, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin , Chairman Mao and Pol Pot.

    Actually that saying means fuck all in here anymore. Even I made that list.


  126. huckfunn
    127 | August 5, 2010 11:10 pm

    @ snowcrash:
    What’s the occasion?


  127. Bordm
    128 | August 5, 2010 11:13 pm

    No DDT-related human fatalities or chronic illnesses have ever been recorded, even among the DDT-soaked workers in anti-malarial programs or among prisoners who were fed DDT as volunteer test subjects — let alone among the 600 million to 1 billion who lived in repeatedly-sprayed dwellings at the height of the substance’s use. The only recorded cases of DDT poisoning were from massive accidental or suicidal ingestions, and even in these cases, it was probably the kerosene solvent rather than the DDT itself that caused illness. Reports of injury to birds could not be verified, even when one researcher force-fed DDT-laced worms to baby robins. Reports of fish kills have been greatly exaggerated, resulting from faulty data or aberrant, massive spills or overuse of the chemical that do not hint at a general danger in its use.

    Even the December 31, 1972 EPA press release entitled “DDT Ban Takes Effect” noted that DDT had been a great boon to human health. Dr. Norman Moore, the British scientist who first claimed that DDT might be the cause of declining eagle populations (one of the chief non-human-health arguments for eliminating the chemical), conceded that the pesticide’s huge benefits might easily outweigh its purported effects on animals: “[I]f I were living in a hut in Africa,” mused Moore, “I would rather have a trace of DDT in my body than die of malaria.” Moore’s calculation seems wise.”


  128. 129 | August 5, 2010 11:17 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Bunk X:
    WW@ troops in the pacific used to soak their gear in it. no ill effect.
    but then again, those dudes were something special

    Not only did it prevent mosquito-borne diseases, crop production rose dramatically. The people who claim that pesticides kill people don’t understand that pesticides didn’t come into wide use until post WWII, and there wasn’t a corresponding increase in any harm to humans, with the exception of those who mishandled the pesticides personally.

    Everything is toxic. It’s the quantity that one consumes that creates the danger.


  129. snowcrash
    130 | August 5, 2010 11:21 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    Freshman at UT. Hook ‘em horns. LOL


  130. huckfunn
    131 | August 6, 2010 12:08 am

    @ snowcrash:
    That’s great! He’ll love Austin. He’s coming down from where?


  131. 132 | August 6, 2010 5:18 am

    Bunk X wrote:

    JacksonTn wrote:
    savage girl .. yes DDT is bad but so is malaria … so you weigh your battles … how many in Africa die from malaria? … we are faced all the time with bans on certain things that are said to be bad in pesticides and herbicides … but what exactly is the over/under on the damage …
    Wrong. Completely wrong. Even the chemist who came up with the effective pesticide drank a glass of the stuff with no ill effects. Rachel Carson created an hysteria.
    Now, for someone to compare Thalidomide with DDT is beyond the valley of ignorant.

    DDT, and any insecticide, must be used with some restraint so that insects do not acquire resistance to it. That said, I strongly favor making DDT legal again.


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