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Restraint in the face of relentless agression is a prescription for disaster; and “The anti-Obama”

by Speranza ( 93 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Hamas, Hezballah, Israel, Lebanon, Progressives, Tranzis at August 12th, 2010 - 7:00 pm

Face it, to a good part of the Western and non Western world, any Israeli (or for that matter American) attempt to defend itself against Islamic aggression will be denounced as “disproportionate” so the best thing for them to do is to ignore the carping critics and vigorously go after those who seek to harm you. Winners never make apologies and only those who have doubts about the rightness of their cause seek to constantly explain and plead for understanding.

For whatever shortcomings he may have, Benjamin Netanyahu is everything that Obama is not. He is a capitalist, a patriot, and resolute in the face of his nations enemies. No wonder he makes Obama uncomfortable.

by Isi Leibler

A recent editorial in Haaretz reprimanded the IDF for cutting down a tree inside Israeli territory near the Lebanese border on the absurd grounds that the authorities should have been more restrained and sensitive to the political tension in Lebanon.

If this approach were adopted by our government, it would result in a total collapse of Israel’s deterrence. Rather than discouraging our enemies from conducting acts of aggression and terror out of fear of reprisal, we ourselves would become reluctant to take any defensive measures out of concern that they could be construed as aggressive acts or provocations by our hostile neighbors. In such a bizarre climate, we would be failing to carry out the minimal steps required to maintain the security of our borders and the welfare of our citizens.

A FEW days before the unprovoked attack by the Lebanese army, a grad rocket had been launched from the Gaza Strip which could easily have led to major loss of life in the heart of Ashkelon. Subsequently, missiles were launched on Eilat, again fortunately not resulting in Israeli casualties but killing an innocent Jordanian.

These terrorist attacks took place shortly after we agreed, under enormous pressure from the Obama administration, to participate in a UN investigation of May 31’s flotilla incident when Turkish Islamic extremists sought to break our legitimate naval blockade of Gaza.

Ironically, that took place simultaneously with widespread media coverage of classified documents released by WikiLeaks about the inadvertent killing of civilians by US and allied forces in Afghanistan.

Needless to say, there were no calls from UN Secretary General Ban Ki- Moon for an inquiry or any suggestion that the death of these innocent civilians were war crimes.

[....]

OVERALL, IT would seem that we have still not internalized the lessons of the past. We live in a region of scorpions, in which compromise and goodwill extended in the face of aggression has time and again encouraged our enemies to intensify their acts of terror until a full-scale war erupts.

We should surely have absorbed the lessons of the Kassams. Those who belittled their impact and derisively referred to them as primitive “Kassam Shmassams,” failed to appreciate that our failure to respond vigorously allowed the world to view such attacks as part of the Middle East routine.

Had we responded initially with vigor, the attacks would not have escalated and we may well have avoided the Gaza war.

[...]

If we respond swiftly and demonstrate that Hamas and Hizbullah will pay a major price if they attack us, we will almost certainly incur the wrath of the UN, Europe and regrettably, probably also the US. Yet the lessons of the past decade demonstrate that Hamas and Hizbullah are afraid of being held responsible by the people they rule for any suffering inflicted on them as a result of unprovoked aggression against Israel. This is a brutal area in which alas, paradoxically, might and swift reprisal against terror attacks are far more likely to avert a full-blown war than vacuous dialogue and restraint.

Our deterrent policy should be spelled out.

Netanyahu must avoid repeating the hollow threats of reprisals that transformed us into loudmouthed bluffers and a regional laughing stock over the past decade. He must proclaim that we will respond vigorously to any threats against our civilian population and, unlike his predecessors, commit himself to implementing such a policy.

We no longer have any illusions. The world does not accept our right to defend ourselves, but we cannot afford to await intervention or retribution from third parties when our civilians are endangered. It will represent a continuation of former government follies if we stand by with folded arms and fail to immediately respond to acts of terror. On the other hand, if we convey a strong message to our foes that if they deliberately spill Israeli blood there is a major price to pay, we may in fact avert the worst scenario of another brutal all-out war.

Read the rest here: Restraint or deterrence

George Will notes that Benjamin Netanyahu is the anti-Obama

by George F. Will

Two photographs adorn the office of Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu. Together they illuminate a portentous fact: No two leaders of democracies are less alike — in life experiences, temperaments and political philosophies — than Netanyahu, the former commando and fierce nationalist, and Barack Obama, the former professor and post-nationalist.

One photograph is of Theodor Herzl, born 150 years ago. Dismayed by the eruption of anti-Semitism in France during the Dreyfus Affair at the end of the 19th century, Herzl became Zionism’s founding father. Long before the Holocaust, he concluded that Jews could find safety only in a national homeland.

The other photograph is of Winston Churchill, who considered himself “one of the authors” of Britain’s embrace of Zionism. The Balfour Declaration of 1917 stated: “His Majesty’s Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.” Beginning in 1923, Britain would govern Palestine under a League of Nations mandate.

Netanyahu, his focus firmly on Iran, honors Churchill because he did not flinch from facts about gathering storms. Obama returned to the British Embassy in Washington the bust of Churchill that was in the Oval Office when he got there.

[...]

The Cairo speech came 10 months after Obama’s Berlin speech, in which he declared himself a “citizen of the world.” That was an oxymoronic boast, given that citizenship connotes allegiance to a particular polity, its laws and political processes. But the boast resonated in Europe.

The European Union was born from the flight of Europe’s elites from what terrifies them — Europeans. The first Thirty Years’ War ended in 1648 with the Peace of Westphalia, which ratified the system of nation-states. The second Thirty Years’ War, which ended in 1945, convinced European elites that the continent’s nearly fatal disease was nationalism, the cure for which must be the steady attenuation of nationalities. Hence the high value placed on “pooling” sovereignty, never mind the cost in diminished self-government.

Israel, with its deep sense of nationhood, is beyond unintelligible to such Europeans; it is a stench in their nostrils. Transnational progressivism is, as much as welfare state social democracy, an element of European politics that American progressives will emulate as much as American politics will permit. It is perverse that the European Union, a semi-fictional political entity, serves — with the United States, the reliably anti-Israel United Nations and Russia — as part of the “quartet” that supposedly will broker peace in our time between Israel and the Palestinians.

Arguably the most left-wing administration in American history is trying to knead and soften the most right-wing coalition in Israel’s history. The former shows no understanding of the latter, which thinks it understands the former all too well.

[....]

No one is less a transnational progressive, less a post-nationalist, than Binyamin Netanyahu, whose first name is that of a son of Jacob, who lived perhaps 4,000 years ago. Netanyahu, whom no one ever called cuddly, once said to a U.S. diplomat 10 words that should warn U.S. policymakers who hope to make Netanyahu malleable: “You live in Chevy Chase. Don’t play with our future.”

Read the rest here: Netanyahu, the anti Obama

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93 Responses to “Restraint in the face of relentless agression is a prescription for disaster; and “The anti-Obama””
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  1. NoThreat2U
    1 | August 12, 2010 7:13 pm

    Guys I LOVE the share button for facebook!!!! Thanx!!!!!!!


  2. chickadee
    2 | August 12, 2010 7:21 pm

    Great post speranza.
    And btw, that act of zero shipping the bust of Churchill so rudely back to Britain, continues to be is undoing in the British press. He insulted the Brits so badly, they are pulling no punches as they print the ugly facts abt. him, all the information abt. his major fck ups and ineptitudes, that the mfm here ignores or tires to spin as a positive.
    The Brits are piling on this marvelous god like lightworker citizen of the world pos.
    They are delivering the truth abt. him.


  3. Speranza
    3 | August 12, 2010 7:21 pm

    Not only the worst president evah but the most anti Israel one as well.


  4. Speranza
    4 | August 12, 2010 7:22 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    Great post speranza.
    And btw, that act of zero shipping the bust of Churchill so rudely back to Britain, continues to be is undoing in the British press. He insulted the Brits so badly, they are pulling no punches as they print the ugly facts abt. him, all the information abt. his major fck ups and ineptitudes, that the mfm here ignores or tires to spin as a positive.
    The Brits are piling on this marvelous god like light worker citizen of the world pos.
    They are delivering the truth abt. him.

    Thanks. How ironic that in 2008 the dumb Brits were drooling all over him!


  5. NoThreat2U
    5 | August 12, 2010 7:24 pm

    @ Speranza:
    They were only drooling over him because it was the “proper” thing to do. Bunch of tight asses. Also, they were so damn happy to see that us racist colonials FINALLY got past our racism.


  6. buzzsawmonkey
    6 | August 12, 2010 7:24 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Not only the worst president evah but the most anti Israel one as well.

    We ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Wait until he has his back to the wall without a supermajority Congress and starts governing by executive fiat even more than he has already.


  7. chickadee
    7 | August 12, 2010 7:25 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    chickadee wrote:

    Great post speranza.
    And btw, that act of zero shipping the bust of Churchill so rudely back to Britain, continues to be is undoing in the British press. He insulted the Brits so badly, they are pulling no punches as they print the ugly facts abt. him, all the information abt. his major fck ups and ineptitudes, that the mfm here ignores or tires to spin as a positive.
    The Brits are piling on this marvelous god like light worker citizen of the world pos.
    They are delivering the truth abt. him.

    Thanks. How ironic that in 2008 the dumb Brits were drooling all over him!

    So true.
    But the Brits have a wicked sense of humor. Now that they see the folly of their ways, he is paying through his arrogant snoot. LOL


  8. Speranza
    8 | August 12, 2010 7:27 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    We ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Wait until he has his back to the wall without a supermajority Congress and starts governing by executive fiat even more than he has already.

    The COP wanting to win in 2012, they will confront his anti-Israel policies. Dumb Jews may support Obama but so many Christians support Israel.


  9. Speranza
    9 | August 12, 2010 7:28 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    Now that they see the folly of their ways, he is paying through his arrogant snoot. LOL

    Yeah but the price that the UK and the rest of the world is paying for this jokers mistakes is going to be steep. Elections have consequences.


  10. Speranza
    10 | August 12, 2010 7:28 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:
    We ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Wait until he has his back to the wall without a supermajority Congress and starts governing by executive fiat even more than he has already.
    The COP wanting to win in 2012, they will confront his anti-Israel policies. Dumb Jews may support Obama but so many Christians support Israel.

    PIMF -- The GOP


  11. buzzsawmonkey
    11 | August 12, 2010 7:30 pm

    @ Speranza:

    I’m just sayin’—we’ve seen his good side, his friendly side, his conciliatory side up to now.

    Hard to believe, I know—but he’s been as “bipartisan” as he’s ever gonna be, because he was able to pretend that “bipartisan” meant “my-partisan.” Wait’ll he gets some real opposition; it’ll get ugly, fast.


  12. m
    12 | August 12, 2010 7:30 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    You’re welcome!! Thank you!


  13. Speranza
    13 | August 12, 2010 7:31 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    They were only drooling over him because it was the “proper” thing to do. Bunch of tight asses. Also, they were so damn happy to see that us racist colonials FINALLY got past our racism.

    A bunch of naive, short sighted fools!!!


  14. 14 | August 12, 2010 7:31 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Did you see That there are rumors of Turkey planning to arm Hizballah.


  15. Speranza
    15 | August 12, 2010 7:32 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I’m just sayin’—we’ve seen his good side, his friendly side, his conciliatory side up to now.
    Hard to believe, I know—but he’s been as “bipartisan” as he’s ever gonna be, because he was able to pretend that “bipartisan” meant “my-partisan.” Wait’ll he gets some real opposition; it’ll get ugly, fast.

    He is intellectually and tempermentally incapable of bipartisanship, political moderation, and dignity.


  16. NoThreat2U
    16 | August 12, 2010 7:33 pm

    @ m:
    I have been waiting for them!!!

    @ Speranza:
    They can’t see past royal protocol to ever get angry. lol


  17. Speranza
    17 | August 12, 2010 7:34 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Did you see That there are rumors of Turkey planning to arm Hizballah.

    Rumors, who knows? Hezbollah understands that another war will be fought very differnetly thenthe one that puke Olmert fought. Netanyahu is not Olmert or Obama. What Israel would do is go for speed (get behind them) and massive firepower.


  18. 19 | August 12, 2010 7:37 pm

    Ha…Ha…


  19. buzzsawmonkey
    20 | August 12, 2010 7:37 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    He is intellectually and tempermentally incapable of bipartisanship, political moderation, and dignity.

    Don’t forget courtliness, grace, generosity of spirit, magnanimity, compromise, and—what’s the word I’m looking for?—leadership.


  20. 21 | August 12, 2010 7:48 pm

    Testing, is this thing on???


  21. 22 | August 12, 2010 7:52 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Shhh, you will wake the lurkers…

    /awww nuts…


  22. 23 | August 12, 2010 7:53 pm

    Peace comes only from defeating the enemies of Israel, at least for a time. Islam is a work of the devil, and the devil cannot be killed, only held at bay through eternal vigilance.

    The war that can NEVER end


  23. snork
    24 | August 12, 2010 7:53 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    We ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Wait until he has his back to the wall without a supermajority Congress and starts governing by executive fiat even more than he has already.

    Yup. I’ve been saying that. Without the congress, he’s going to go passive-aggressive, and start throwing executive orders and agency policies like Clinton after 96, on speed.


  24. 25 | August 12, 2010 7:53 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Worse yet, a divided Congress that can exercize no restraint on him whatsoever. Withough a Legislature to censure him, what will he be capable of? Restraint isn’t in his lexicon…


  25. snork
    26 | August 12, 2010 7:54 pm

    And don’t think that he can’t do a hell of a lot of damage without appropriations.


  26. vagabond trader
    27 | August 12, 2010 7:54 pm

    That Nobel is looking more absurd than it did when it was bestowed upon him. A reasonable person might even be embarrassed.


  27. Speranza
    28 | August 12, 2010 7:56 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    That Nobel is looking more absurd than it did when it was bestowed upon him. A reasonable person might even be embarrassed.

    A bunch of Norwegian leftists handed it to me for not being Bush.


  28. 29 | August 12, 2010 7:56 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    That Nobel is looking more absurd than it did when it was bestowed upon him. A reasonable person might even be embarrassed.

    Anybody with functioning synapses would be embarrassed.

    The Nobel Peace Price has become a badge of infamy.


  29. 30 | August 12, 2010 7:57 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    A less narcissistic person would hasve declined


  30. chickadee
    31 | August 12, 2010 7:59 pm

    George Will’s article is great.
    zero is like a spoiled 6th grader using real money to play Monopoly games with the America economy.
    Netanyahu is a Statesman trying to keep his country safe in the face of a growing dangerous world wide barbarian rumbling.

    There’s a photo of zero poking his finger in Netanyahu’s chest and glaring so petulantly at him. You can tell by the look on Netanyhu’s face that he knows the score. He knows that zero is a lucky nothing pos, someone he has to put up with for the moment. Netanyahu knows this and that is why he tolerated the rudeness of the fop who would never have the balls to be so belligerent if he wasn’t totus.

    zero is uncomfortable in the presence of real men.


  31. buzzsawmonkey
    32 | August 12, 2010 7:59 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Withough a Legislature to censure him, what will he be capable of? Restraint isn’t in his lexicon…

    The question is whether, faced with opposition, his cowardly side or his tantrum-prone side will come out.

    Both, I think—the trick will be to see which manifests itself where. He is already prone to whining about how little he can do despite his supermajorities; faced with opposition, he will on occasion fold. However, like the spoiled child he is, he will also lash out and try to force his way.


  32. buzzsawmonkey
    33 | August 12, 2010 8:02 pm

    Drink your way through the remainder of the Obama years with genuine Tant Rum™!

    It’s the booze to choose when you hear the boos!


  33. vagabond trader
    34 | August 12, 2010 8:02 pm

    Styrofoam Greek theater,a faux presidential seal,the world apology tour,what is he going to do for an encore? It won’t be pretty,just hope they keep blaming Bush. A sure winner./


  34. 35 | August 12, 2010 8:05 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    He has no leadership ability, none. I guess we should count our blessings. I had been afraid of a reign of terror for his first two year, but, while he has robbed the treasury blind, nationalized the auto industry, and devistated the Gulf with his ineptitude it could have been much, much worse had he had leadership ability to live up to his hype. As it is, he is incapable of leading a Girl Scout troop to sell cookies. I don’t think we have to worry about the Second Coming of Stalin. Louis XVI, OTOH? Only with the temperment of a three year old…


  35. buzzsawmonkey
    36 | August 12, 2010 8:10 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    I don’t think we have to worry about the Second Coming of Stalin.

    I do. He’s a prop, and he has some very nasty people using him as a blind.


  36. vagabond trader
    37 | August 12, 2010 8:13 pm

    Actually he has been quite successful in achieving his goals. Auto industry,banking,healthcare,student loans,off shore drilling,radical scotus appointments and the alienation of our allies. In less than 2 years,impressive.We have to regain the house.


  37. 38 | August 12, 2010 8:17 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I expected something along those lines using his super-majorities to steamroll all opposition, but it didn’t materialize. Instead, he barely dragged his premier piece of legislation across the finish line. If we can just take the House, the danger of that is past. He can, no doubt, still be destructive, ands I have no doubt that he wants to wreck this country. I am under no illusion about his benevolence or about him being merely misguided. He is a nasty piece of work. With a divided Congress, he will be able to function with few limits. But he will no longer be able to demand that the Legislature pass laws and have any reason to expect them to comply.


  38. buzzsawmonkey
    39 | August 12, 2010 8:18 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    But he will no longer be able to demand that the Legislature pass laws and have any reason to expect them to comply.

    I worry about emergency decrees, and what can be done under their cover.


  39. Philip_Daniel
    40 | August 12, 2010 8:25 pm

    Saudi Cleric Muhammad Al-Arifi: The Desire to Shed Blood, Smash Skulls, and Sever Limbs for the Sake of Allah Is an Honor for the Believer [Video]

    Muhammad Al-Arifi: There is no doubt that a person whom Allah enables to sacrifice his soul, and to fight for the sake of Allah, has been graced with a great honor. The Prophet Muhammad said that the dust of battle for the sake of Allah and the smoke of Hell shall never meet in a man’s nose.

    [...]

    Devotion to Jihad for the sake of Allah, and the desire to shed blood, to smash skulls and to sever limbs for the sake of Allah and in defense of His religion, is, undoubtedly, an honor for the believer.

    [...]

    Allah said that if a man fights the infidels, the infidels will be unable to prepare to fight [the Muslims]. By Allah, the infidel countries today – the US and its allies – dare to fight the Muslims, to rape their women and turn them into widows, and to inflict their corruption on Islam and the Muslims on a daily basis only because they see that the Muslims do not even consider fighting the infidels and conquering their countries.

    [...]

    The Koranic verses that deal with fighting the infidels and conquering their countries say that they should convert to Islam, pay the jizya poll tax, or be killed. If the Muslims had implemented this, we would not have reached the humiliation in which we find ourselves today.


  40. 41 | August 12, 2010 8:26 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    For that we have to hope to the health of the five Supreme Court Justices who would be inclined to stand against him. I’m not trying to minimize the risks ahead of us. We havenearly two and a half more years to get through. The Lame Duck session scares me the most, because they can pass nearly anything that they dream of, with the assent of one RINO in the Senate. As there are several that the Democrats can bid on, I have no doubt that they’ll be able to find one suited to their purpose. Once that daner is past, there are, as you say, executive orders that can do most anything. He might not be bale to create a huge, new sweeping beaureaucracy simply for lack of funding, but he could order the IRS to make Republicans lives hell on earth and there isn’t much that could be done to stop him. We’ve never had a President simply cast aside all bounds of decency and try and become a dictator. But Obama won’t control the Legislature. He won’t be able to command all of the machinery of the State the way it seemed he would be able to 18 months ago.

    Of course, I am counting on us getting the House. God help us if we don’t, because the Democrats will see it as a mandate to dismember the country.


  41. The Osprey
    42 | August 12, 2010 8:27 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Drink your way through the remainder of the Obama years with genuine Tant Rum™!

    It’s the booze to choose when you hear the boos!


  42. snork
    43 | August 12, 2010 8:32 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    I worry about emergency decrees, and what can be done under their cover.

    (*** cough offshore drilling ban cough ***)


  43. vagabond trader
  44. NoThreat2U
    45 | August 12, 2010 8:32 pm

    @ Philip_Daniel:
    These people are so big on humiliation. Maybe if you didn’t suck and try to destroy the human race, people would have some respect for you. But Nooooo, yinz got to try and subject the whole entire planet to your warped “religion”. Are they really surprised why no one likes them. Damn, it’s like talking to children.


  45. 46 | August 12, 2010 8:34 pm

    Glen Reynolds apparently thinks as highly of Dick Durbin (D-al Qaeda) as I do. In response to Durbin’s tumor Reybnolds quipped:
    APPARENTLY, THEY TOOK OUT THE ONLY PART OF HIM THAT WASN’T MALIGNANT
    . Indeed.


  46. chickadee
    47 | August 12, 2010 8:34 pm

    He is becoming so unpopular, so toxic that dems running in Nov. do not want to be seen with him.
    In fact the dem candidates are not running on all the zero “accomplishments” they voted yes to. They are downplaying all the zero shit they helped to ram down our throats. That tells you everything.

    I think the wind is out of his sails. I think he will soon be shunned as a paper tiger who got away with murder because people were too polite to stop him. There is going to be some blowback on him.
    Even dems may not be so happy to go along with his b.s. anymore.


  47. 48 | August 12, 2010 8:35 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    They are trying to intorduce some civility into the discussion with us barbarians. Me, I’m tempted to remind them of how barbaric I can be…


  48. Philip_Daniel
    49 | August 12, 2010 8:36 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Philip_Daniel:
    These people are so big on humiliation. Maybe if you didn’t suck and try to destroy the human race, people would have some respect for you. But Nooooo, yinz got to try and subject the whole entire planet to your warped “religion”. Are they really surprised why no one likes them. Damn, it’s like talking to children.

    They’re the true believers, we’re the heathens, thus we must be subjugated and legally humiliated and they must prosper at our expense…

    On an appointed day the dhimmi – Christian or Jew – must present himself in person, and not through the intermediary of an agent , before the emir responsible for the collection of the jizya. The latter must be seated on a chair raised in the form of a throne; the dhimmi will come forward bearing the jizya held in the middle of the palm of his hand, whence the emir will take it in such a way that his hand is above and the dhimmi’s hand underneath. Following this, the emir will strike the dhimmi on the neck with his fist; a man will stand near the emir to chase away the dhimmi in haste; then a second [dhimmi] and a third will come forward to suffer the same treatment as well as all those to follow. All [Muslims] will be admitted to enjoy this spectacle. None [of the dhimmis] will be allowed to delegate a third party to pay the jizya in his stead, for they must suffer this degradation personally; for perchance they will eventually come to believe in Allah and his Prophet and be consequently delivered from this distasteful yoke.

    al-Adawi


  49. buzzsawmonkey
    50 | August 12, 2010 8:37 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    Now, that was rousing.


  50. refugee000
    51 | August 12, 2010 8:40 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Did you see That there are rumors of Turkey planning to arm Hizballah.

    I wonder if chemical weapons are part of the order?

    Turkey Accused of Using Chemical Weapons against PKK
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,711536,00.html


  51. vagabond trader
    52 | August 12, 2010 8:40 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Save it. We may need to impose a civilizing influence in the next two years. ;-)


  52. 53 | August 12, 2010 8:41 pm

    This is what scares me most:

    It’s official. There will be a lame duck session of Congress even after voters have rendered their verdict on the work of the current incumbents in November.

    This week, the House voted down a resolution opposing a lame-duck session to tackle hot button issues such as new taxes and climate change. Even though six Democrats joined Republicans in voting against considering such legislation before the new Congress is seated, Majority Leader Harry Reid has announced the Senate will nonetheless return on November 15, then take a Thanksgiving break, then come back for more business on November 29, with no specified target date for adjournment.

    I expect that the Democrats will be in a vengeful mood. I think we can also count on the Porkzilla to eat all other Porkzillas. The only question is which RINO will sell out to make it al;l possible…


  53. 54 | August 12, 2010 8:43 pm

    @ Philip_Daniel:

    The religion of peace.


  54. Philip_Daniel
    55 | August 12, 2010 8:44 pm

    refugee000 wrote:

    Turkey Accused of Using Chemical Weapons against PKK
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,711536,00.html

    Kurds aren’t Arabs, so atrocities against them, according to Progressives, are not worthy of condemnation…


  55. 56 | August 12, 2010 8:44 pm

    @ refugee000:

    I’ve read Hizballah has chemical weapons.


  56. NoThreat2U
    57 | August 12, 2010 8:44 pm

    @ Philip_Daniel:
    Well I see that the other way around. They are worshippers of Satan. Everything to do and believe in revolves around blood shed. God does NOT operate that way. They are like little children. Waaaa we don’t have indoor plumbing like the evil Jooos. They are retarded. It is no one’s fault but their own that their countries are hell holes. I say bring our kids home and let these animals kill each other. As for the women, one day they need to get pissed enough to rise up against this misogynistic culture and start kicking some ass.

    Spoken like a true western woman ;)

    I will not submit.


  57. 58 | August 12, 2010 8:45 pm

    @ Philip_Daniel:

    Plus Kurds are apostates. They are Muslim in name only many of them.


  58. vagabond trader
    59 | August 12, 2010 8:45 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Very ominous,not unexpected.Intoxicated with power and control.


  59. Philip_Daniel
    60 | August 12, 2010 8:45 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    I concur.


  60. 61 | August 12, 2010 8:46 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    They say the world isn’t big enough for the both of us. I am inclined to agree.


  61. 62 | August 12, 2010 8:47 pm

    @ Philip_Daniel:

    What’s your take on this?


  62. NoThreat2U
    63 | August 12, 2010 8:47 pm

    @ Philip_Daniel:
    :) Western woman aren’t such pushovers. lol Some of us wear the title “Bitch” very proudly. lol


  63. NoThreat2U
    64 | August 12, 2010 8:47 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Well then I guess they gotta go ;)


  64. vagabond trader
    65 | August 12, 2010 8:47 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Probably got hold of the stuff Saddam trucked into Syria.


  65. 66 | August 12, 2010 8:48 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    There will be no effective restraint on them. None. What are you going to do? Vote them out of office? I think the Lame Duck session is an even bigger threat to liberty and the well-being of the country than Obama’s power of executive orders.


  66. 67 | August 12, 2010 8:49 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    :mrgreen:


  67. chickadee
    68 | August 12, 2010 8:49 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    This is what scares me most:

    It’s official. There will be a lame duck session of Congress even after voters have rendered their verdict on the work of the current incumbents in November.

    This week, the House voted down a resolution opposing a lame-duck session to tackle hot button issues such as new taxes and climate change. Even though six Democrats joined Republicans in voting against considering such legislation before the new Congress is seated, Majority Leader Harry Reid has announced the Senate will nonetheless return on November 15, then take a Thanksgiving break, then come back for more business on November 29, with no specified target date for adjournment.

    I expect that the Democrats will be in a vengeful mood. I think we can also count on the Porkzilla to eat all other Porkzillas. The only question is which RINO will sell out to make it al;l possible…

    Does anyone remember the dems being such hardcore sell out commie scum before zero was elected?
    They were libs but they weren’t full on communist bastards. I really wonder how many have been bought off by money from the puppet’s handlers. A few million here and there is nothing for soros to finally achieve his dream and destroy America.
    This is why character matters.


  68. NoThreat2U
    69 | August 12, 2010 8:51 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    You’re a scary man….I like that in a person. lol lol


  69. Philip_Daniel
    70 | August 12, 2010 8:52 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Philip_Daniel:
    What’s your take on this?

    He’s an apartheid and genocide apologist…


  70. vagabond trader
    71 | August 12, 2010 8:52 pm

    @ chickadee:

    Oh yeah all that porkulus dough being thrown around,how much has landed in crooked pockets. Plenty is my guess.And we get to foot the bill for our own destruction. How they must laugh at us.


  71. 72 | August 12, 2010 8:52 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    Does anyone remember the dems being such hardcore sell out commie scum before zero was elected?

    Yes, now they just get to be out of the closet about it.


  72. Empire1
    73 | August 12, 2010 8:53 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    I’m betting on McCain, if he’s defeated in November.


  73. buzzsawmonkey
    74 | August 12, 2010 8:54 pm

    @ Rodan:

    at the risk of repeating myself:

    Ramadanny boy, the muezzins are calling
    From minarets that sprout on every side
    Unless you want consequences appalling
    Under the laws of sharia you must bide
    Subtle attacks on the concept of freedom
    Will change the land from what you used to know
    Imams demand constantly you appease ‘em
    And that Mohammed’s line you toe

    —to the tune of “Danny Boy”


  74. 75 | August 12, 2010 8:55 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ vagabond trader:
    There will be no effective restraint on them. None. What are you going to do? Vote them out of office? I think the Lame Duck session is an even bigger threat to liberty and the well-being of the country than Obama’s power of executive orders.

    That’s going to be the November Surprise.


  75. The Osprey
    76 | August 12, 2010 8:59 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    @ The Osprey:

    Now, that was rousing.

    AOP got me started on the Sea Chanty theme the other night…now I understand the reference in the song to “15 men on a Dead Man’s Chest”…when I first heard that line I thought, how can 15 guys stand on one guy’s chest, or is it a treasure chest but even then it’s got to be a pretty big box…well, Dead Chest, also called Dead Man’s Chest is an island in the British Virgin Islands...Blackbeard marooned 27 of his crew there as punishment, and left them a single cutlass and a bottle of rum. When he returned a month later, only 15 of them were left alive…


  76. Speranza
    77 | August 12, 2010 9:00 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Philip_Daniel:
    The religion of peace.

    You mean religion of piss?


  77. The Osprey
    78 | August 12, 2010 9:00 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Mo’Hammy Boy


  78. Speranza
    79 | August 12, 2010 9:00 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    He has no leadership ability, none. I guess we should count our blessings. I had been afraid of a reign of terror for his first two year, but, while he has robbed the treasury blind, nationalized the auto industry, and devistated the Gulf with his ineptitude it could have been much, much worse had he had leadership ability to live up to his hype. As it is, he is incapable of leading a Girl Scout troop to sell cookies. I don’t think we have to worry about the Second Coming of Stalin. Louis XVI, OTOH? Only with the temperment of a three year old…

    He is maasively incompetent.


  79. Speranza
    80 | August 12, 2010 9:01 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Mo’Hammy Boy

    Piss be unto him


  80. Speranza
    81 | August 12, 2010 9:01 pm

    Empire1 wrote:

    I’m betting on McCain, if he’s defeated in November.

    If reelected McCain will revert to his Mavericky ways.


  81. chickadee
    82 | August 12, 2010 9:02 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ vagabond trader:

    There will be no effective restraint on them. None. What are you going to do? Vote them out of office? I think the Lame Duck session is an even bigger threat to liberty and the well-being of the country than Obama’s power of executive orders.

    The only restraint on them will be their own conscience.
    I just can’t believe that Americans, even libs, will be so vindictive and insane to continue blindly following zero’s destructive lead after we have made it plain that we the people reject his agenda.
    If the lame duck congress tries to punish us, we need to hunt them down. Expose them. humiliate them, destroy their reputations.


  82. vagabond trader
    83 | August 12, 2010 9:07 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Next trick he’ll recite the koran backwards and disappear in a puff of smoke.


  83. chickadee
    84 | August 12, 2010 9:12 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ chickadee:

    Oh yeah all that porkulus dough being thrown around,how much has landed in crooked pockets. Plenty is my guess.And we get to foot the bill for our own destruction. How they must laugh at us.

    Half of the porkulus money is unaccounted for.


  84. m
    85 | August 12, 2010 9:16 pm

    @ Speranza:

    And all those who worship him.


  85. refugee000
    86 | August 12, 2010 9:26 pm

    Philip_Daniel wrote:

    refugee000 wrote:
    Turkey Accused of Using Chemical Weapons against PKK
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,711536,00.html
    Kurds aren’t Arabs, so atrocities against them, according to Progressives, are not worthy of condemnation…

    Well, then I guess my bet of 10 cyberbucks that the UN will NOT be investigating, is a safe one.


  86. refugee000
    87 | August 12, 2010 9:29 pm

    BTW I wanted to wish all a very Happy Bombadan!

    Bulgarian Muslims mark start of Ramadan with punch-up

    Aug 12, 2010, 12:04 GMT

    Sofia -- The start of Islam’s holy month of Ramadan was marred in Bulgaria when tensions among a group of Muslims escalated into a brawl in a mosque, local reports said Thursday.

    The fist-fight, which involved some 200 people, broke out at evening prayer between the supporters of newly-elected head mufti Mustafa Hadzhi and those of his predecessor Nedim Gendzhev.

    http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/europe/news/article_1577175.php/Bulgarian-Muslims-mark-start-of-Ramadan-with-punch-up

    ;-)


  87. 88 | August 12, 2010 9:29 pm

    @ Philip_Daniel:
    Dr. Daniel… paging Dr. Daniel… Report to The Blogmocracy Radio.


  88. Speranza
    89 | August 12, 2010 9:32 pm

    @ refugee000:
    It’s called Ramadanadingdong


  89. Speranza
    90 | August 12, 2010 9:35 pm

    m wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    And all those who worship him.

    All 1.3 billion of them.


  90. Philip_Daniel
    91 | August 12, 2010 9:39 pm

    refugee000 wrote:

    BTW I wanted to wish all a very Happy Bombadan!
    Bulgarian Muslims mark start of Ramadan with punch-up
    Aug 12, 2010, 12:04 GMT
    Sofia – The start of Islam’s holy month of Ramadan was marred in Bulgaria when tensions among a group of Muslims escalated into a brawl in a mosque, local reports said Thursday.
    The fist-fight, which involved some 200 people, broke out at evening prayer between the supporters of newly-elected head mufti Mustafa Hadzhi and those of his predecessor Nedim Gendzhev.
    http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/europe/news/article_1577175.php/Bulgarian-Muslims-mark-start-of-Ramadan-with-punch-up

    Bulgaria not fully freed from Islamic occupation until 1908, folks…


  91. 92 | August 12, 2010 9:42 pm

    Who is the uniformed smarmy cunt on Hannity with the green tie?

    Sounds like an ACLU bitch


  92. 93 | August 12, 2010 9:43 pm

    The Constitution is not a suicide pact


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