Islam may be harmful to your health…
Back in February, 2008, I blogged about Islam and Brain Damage. I offered evidence that the Islamic custom of proving one’s piety by slamming one’s head into the floor is dangerous to one’s mental and physical health. That blog post continues to draw occasional comments and considerable traffic.
The unwisdom of this activity should be so obvious as to need no explanation, but apparently those who have already spent their lives bashing their heads into the floor may be impervious to further attempts at reason.
…and to the health of your offspring
In a nutshell, the problem is that both the cultural traditions in Islamic lands, and Islam itself, encourage inbreeding.
Suffice it to say that there are excellent reasons why the descendents of the royal families of Europe no longer intermarry as they once did, and why some States in the USA ban first-cousin marriage. The Orthodox Christian Church takes it further, prohibiting marriage between first or second cousins. Yet cousin marriage remains customary, not only within Muslim countries, but also among expatriate Muslim populations elsewhere.
Charles II of Spain, mentioned in the article below, suffered throughout his short life from severe mental and physical disabilities.
Discover: The individual & social risks of cousin marriage
…What’s the negative? Pedigree collapse. I’ve been talking about marriages between first cousins throughout this post, but that’s really a small issue next to this. Even first cousin marriages produce individuals with a fair amount of inbreeding. I ran a test for runs of homozygosity in my 23andMe genetic profile and I got 3 hits, while a friend whose parents are first cousins got ~70 (the parameters for the test aren’t important, just giving a relative sense). For inbred clans it gets much worse because people are related in many different ways, and genetically are far closer than first cousins. That is what happened to the Spanish Hapsburgs. As you can see from the pedigree of Charles II his parents were closer than typical first cousins. The Samaritans of Israel are a religious sect which seems to be going through pedigree collapse. Some of them are proactively marrying outsiders to prevent their extinction through high infant mortality rates. Others, “traditionalists,” oppose exogamy because intermarriage within the group is the custom, and diseases are God’s will.
The Samaritans are an extreme case. But we may be seeing a thousand Samaritan flowers blooming across the Middle East. From what I know cousin marriage in the Middle East is not limited to Muslims, Christians and Jews practice it as well. But among many Muslims it has some cachet because of particular hadiths which point to this practice as preferred. Setting religion aside, there are also social reasons why this practice is common. As I noted above sex segregation means that you may not know women outside of your family well, and in some societies where veiling is practiced it may be that you do not see many women you are not related to (even if veiling occurs at puberty, you may have seen your cousin at a younger age). Marriages are bonds which may tie a family into one operational social unit, and so produce a powerful inbred clan. This illustrates the cross-purposes of a cultural unit of selection vs. the individual unit of selection. In a society where clan vs. clan competitions are critical sorting mechanisms consanguineous marriages may serve as beneficial cross-linkages. Balanced against this of course are marriages across clans. On an individual level a first cousin marriage reduces the reproductive fitness, but higher potential reproductive fitness of two individuals who have no social support because of ostracism may be a moot point.
A scandalous documentary
By Tazeen Ahmad
Last updated at 11:11 AM on 23rd August 2010Sitting in the family living room, I watched tensely as my mother and her older brother signed furiously at each other. Although almost completely without sound, their row was high-octane, even vicious.
Three of my uncles were born deaf but they knew how to make themselves heard. Eventually, my uncle caved in and fondly put his arm around his sister.
My mum has always had a special place in her family because she was the first girl to live beyond childhood. Five of her sisters died as babies or toddlers. It was not until many years later that anyone worked out why so many children died and three boys were born deaf.
Today there is no doubt among us that this tragedy occurred because my grandparents were first cousins.
My grandmother’s heart was broken from losing so many daughters at such a young age. As a parent, I can’t imagine what she went through.
My family is not unique. In the UK more than 50 per cent of British Pakistanis marry their cousins – in Bradford that figure is 75 per cent – and across the country the practice is on the rise and also common among East African, Middle-Eastern and Bangladeshi communities.
Back when my grandparents were having children, the medical facts were not established. But today in Britain alone there are more than 70 scientific studies on the subject.
We know the children of first cousins are ten times more likely to be born with recessive genetic disorders which can include infant mortality, deafness and blindness.
We know British Pakistanis constitute 1.5 per cent of the population, yet a third of all children born in this country with rare recessive genetic diseases come from this community.
Despite overwhelming evidence, in the time I spent filming Dispatches: When Cousins Marry, I felt as if I was breaking a taboo rather than addressing a reality. Pakistanis have been marrying cousins for generations.
The documentary itself cannot be embedded here on Blogmocracy.
Click here to view it on Gates of Vienna.
Widespread effects of inbreeding
The effects of inbreeding are not limited to the incidence of obvious birth defects. Even those offspring who do not have overt congenital defects will, on the average, have lower intelligence and less ability to deal with life in the modern world.
Muslim Inbreeding: Impacts on intelligence, sanity, health and society
EuropeNews 9 August 2010
By Nicolai SennelsMassive inbreeding within the Muslim culture during the last 1.400 years may have done catastrophic damage to their gene pool. The consequences of intermarriage between first cousins often have serious impact on the offspring’s intelligence, sanity, health and on their surroundings
The most famous example of inbreeding is in ancient Egypt, where several Pharaonic dynasties collapsed after a couple of hundred years. In order to keep wealth and power within the family, the Pharaohs often married their own sister or half-sister and after a handful of generations the offspring were mentally and physically unfit to rule. Another historical example is the royal houses of Europe where royal families often married among each other because tradition did not allow them to marry people of non-royal class.
The high amount of mentally retarded and handicapped royalties throughout European history shows the unhealthy consequences of this practice. Luckily, the royal families have now allowed themselves to marry for love and not just for status.
The Muslim culture still practices inbreeding and has been doing so for longer than any Egyptian dynasty. This practice also predates the world’s oldest monarchy (the Danish) by 300 years.
A rough estimate shows that close to half of all Muslims in the world are inbred: In Pakistan, 70 percent of all marriages are between first cousins (so-called “consanguinity”) and in Turkey the amount is between 25-30 percent (Jyllands-Posten, 27/2 2009 More stillbirths among immigrants”
Statistical research on Arabic countries shows that up to 34 percent of all marriages in Algiers are consanguine (blood related), 46 percent in Bahrain, 33 percent in Egypt, 80 percent in Nubia (southern area in Egypt), 60 percent in Iraq, 64 percent in Jordan, 64 percent in Kuwait, 42 percent in Lebanon, 48 percent in Libya, 47 percent in Mauritania, 54 percent in Qatar, 67 percent in Saudi Arabia, 63 percent in Sudan, 40 percent in Syria, 39 percent in Tunisia, 54 percent in the United Arabic Emirates and 45 percent in Yemen (Reproductive Health Journal, 2009 Consanguinity and reproductive health among Arabs.).
A large part of inbred Muslims are born from parents who are themselves inbred – which increase the risks of negative mental and physical consequenses greatly.
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Low intelligenceSeveral studies show that children of consanguineous marriages have lower intelligence than children of non-related parents. Research shows that the IQ is 10-16 points lower in children born from related parents and that abilities related to social behavior develops slower in inbred babies:
“Effects of parental consanguinity on the cognitive and social behavior of children have been studied among the Ansari Muslims of Bhalgapur, Bihar.
IQ in inbred children (8-12 years old) is found to be lower (69 in rural and 79 in suburban populations) than that of the outbred ones (79 and 95 respectively). The onset of various social profiles like visual fixation, social smile, sound seizures, oral expression and hand-grasping are significantly delayed among the new-born inbred babies.” (Indian National Science Academy, 1983 Consanguinity Effects on Intelligence Quotient and Neonatal Behaviours of nsari Muslim Children“).
The article “Effects of inbreeding on Raven Matrices” concludes that “Indian Muslim school boys, ages 13 to 15 years, whose parents are first cousins, were compared with classmates whose parents are genetically unrelated on the Raven Standard Progressive Matrices, a nonverbal test of intelligence. The inbred group scored significantly lower and had significantly greater variance than the non-inbred group, both on raw scores and on scores statistically adjusted to control for age and socioeconomic status.” (Behaviour Genetics, 1984).
Another study shows that the risk of having an IQ lower than 70 goes up 400 percent from 1.2 percent in children from normal parents to 6.2 percent in inbred children: “The data indicate that the risk for mental retardation in matings of normal parents increases from 0.012 with random matings to 0.062 for first-cousin parentage.” (Proceedings of the National Academy of Science, 1978 Effect of inbreeding on IQ and mental retardation“). The study A study of possible deleterious effects of consanguinity concludes, that “The occurrence of malignancies, congenital abnormalities, mental retardation and physical handicap was significantly higher in offspring of consanguineous than non-consanguineous marriages.”
Also see:
The Mountain of Names (Geneology)
Tags: genetic mutations, History, Science
So, how do we encourage the Muslims to accelerate their inbreeding?
I wonder if this is the cause of the prediliction towards pedophillia you see in Mohammedan societies? Or if it is just that they worship a pedophile prophet and try to model their lives on his….
Damn, brining up the Spanish Hapsburgs? Between the Illegals, Cartels, Hugo Chavez, Destruction of Aztecs and the Inquisition, can’t us Hispanics get a break!
In all seriousness, this post is spot on. What did in Imperial Spain was inbreeding. Fellpe II 1555-1598, was the last Spanish Hapsburg who was not an inbred. The others that followed were all inbred, hence they couldn’t think for themselves and Corrupt officials like the Count-Duke of Olivares called the shots and drove the Empire into the ground.
Muzzies are mainly inbred and it’s encourages in these countries. Usually the inbreeding happens after the conquest and the Arabization of the the conquered they adopt cousin marrying to keep it in teh family. The result is many Muzzies have bad genetics.
@ doriangrey:
Repatriation and blockade…
@ Iron Fist:
That’s part of it and that’s why after people are conquered and ARabize, they start inbreeding and once dynamic people become as dumb as teh Arabs. It’s inbreeding.
@ Iron Fist:
This is why Bosniaks, although of the same stock as Serbs and Croats, are backward and slow. They inbred after copying what their Turkish masters did. This is why Turks are genocidal, they coopied their Arab icons.
Islam is a mental disease.
Inbreeding, it’s not just for Mooslums:
Teacher’s Assignment to HS Students: Plan a Deadly Terror Attack
This is also what caused the birth defects and other problems in children born in Iraq after the first Gulf War that were blamed on our use of depleted uranium anti-tank rounds.
Never let facts get in the way of a good rant, though…
Something the media will not publish.
Gunshot Shatters Glass Door Of GOP Office
@ F:
You’ve got to be kidding me!
lobo91 wrote:
Oh yeah, those birth defects where happening before thatw ar. But as you say, facts don’t matter to propaganda.
@ Rodan:
As someone who used to handle depleted uranium on a regular basis, I can tell you that the biggest danger from it is dropping it on your foot.
That stuff is heavy…
@ Rodan:
Some on the Left think that they want a Civil War. People lie Lewd Wig van Quack Quack, who think they will go on their merry way slaughtering thousands of unresisting victims who have incorrect political views. They are going to be sorely disappointed whien their chosen victims resist. They are really going to hate it when we start hanging them…
Iron Fist wrote:
Or use banned lead ammunition to give them early entrance to their Leftist Paradise.
@ F:
For werewolves you use silver, but lead works just as well on Leftists. They burn prettily, too
Iron Fist wrote:
Oh, the cousins wed
In the marriage bed
The marriage bed sanctioned by Islam
And if their kids aren’t
Right in the head
It’s because they’re bred
In the marriage bed
I remember back ere she donned the sack
How she looked in younger days
And the wood that I carried into adulthood
Made me crave
To make her my slave
(Repeat Chorus)
—to the tune of “The Wayward Wind” by Patsy Cline
Rodan wrote:
All too true, especially when you consider there are people who actually support such inbred idiocy (from the linked article):
More inbred stupidity, this time from the MFM:
Did ABC News Try To Incite Incident At Mosque Protest?
F wrote:
Well, let’s see…
Sunan Abu Dawud Book 14 Number 2664
Sahih Muslim Book 19 Number 4457
Sahih Muslim Book 19 Number 4322
Sahih Muslim Book 19 Number 4323
Sahih Muslim Book 19 Number 4321
Sunan Abu Dawud Book 19 Number 2996
Sunan Abu Dawud Book 14 Number 2632
Sunan Abu Dawud Book 14 Number 2629
Sahih Bukhari Volume 1 Book 2 Number 24
@ F:
Imagine the idiocy we are going to see aout of the MFM tomorrow at Beck’s rally. They will go all out. You can expect false flag ops. I bet if you started hanging the fuckers they’d go away. I wonder how they’d spin it if you hanged a fucker for a racist sign? By the time the MFM got through with it it’d be portrayed as some kind of lynching…
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I am soooooooooo glad you are on our side, buzz.
http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/
Steve Forbes blasted Barack Obama on FOX News this week. The conservative talked about Obama’s plans for America.
Freedom’s Lighthouse posted the exchange:
Forbes pegs Obama:
“He feels that, in terms of what he’s done, long-term it will make him a great President – put him on Mount Rushmore – change America from a greedy nation to a quiet socialist nation that knows its place in the world. So, in that sense, he’s just going to go along with it, and if the Democrats take a loss, they’re just martyrs to his revolution.”
That about sums it up.
@ Iron Fist:
@ buzzsawmonkey:
@ lobo91:
@ F:
@ doriangrey:
As 1389 has pointed out, inbreeding seems to be a Middle East thing. My Dominican side of the family came from Lebanon. In fact it was a group of 20, that came. Part of my family only marries Lebanese-Dominicans. The other part married local Dominicans or in my Grandma’s case, a Spaniard-American. As one of my relatives did a Family Tree, even these other Lebanese-Dominican families, are actually related. They came from the same towns in Lebanon. So while they don’t realize they are realted, they are,. The result is some of my relatives have health issues, the other ones are health as possible.
@ rain of lead:
Yeah, he certainly acts as though he doesn’t care about elections going forward, his own or anybody else’s. 67 days from now the Democrats will face the voters’ wrath. I hope it is the storm to end all storms…
People who suffer from Islam most certainly have a brain disease. I will submit that no sane, mentally competent individual could ever willingly convert (or revert as the fascists call it) to the barbarism called Islam.
Liberal and Islamist brains should be thoroughly analyzed and studied through autopsies and a barrage of tests and through science we will perhaps get to the bottom of their various impairments and derangements which hinders most rational thought.
@ doriangrey:
That was pretty much my first thought when I read the post.
Wow. I’m not the only person thinking in these terms:
I promise I didn’t read this before my earlier post. GMTA
@ Iron Fist:
I hope it is a f’ing bloodbath!
Some Serious Prayin‘
@ BuddyG:
that’s what I call a serious headbutt
@ Mad Mullah:
Islam is incompatible with freedom. Its very name, “Islam”, means “Submission” in Arabic. Slavery is its core principle, slavery to the moon god, slavery to his mullahs and potentates, for women slavery to men. Death is its other core principle. Death to gays, death to the infidel, death to the adultress, death to the “holy” martyrs, death to the believers. Death to us all. You are correct. No sane person would subject themselves to the insanity that is the Death Cult called Islam.
Obama halts prosecution of USS Cole bomber…
@ F:
more on the Cole Bomber hereIt’s a sleepy Friday in late August, the president in on another vacation, Congress is out of town, no one is paying much attention. What better time for the Obama administration to pull the plug, once again, on military commissions? This time, it has halted the case of top al-Qaeda operative Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, who was to be prosecuted by a military court for the Cole bombing. The Washington Post report is here, and Jen Rubin has thoughts at Contentions.
@ F:
I linked that this morning. What can you say? Obama ♥ Mohammedan Terrorists. It wouldn’t surprise me if one of his last acts in the White House was to pardon Khalid Sheik Mohammed and all the other terrorists at Gitmo. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit.
Although I would not be surprised if genetic-diseases are increased due to Islamic cousin marriages, I don’t think this blog is a good place to discuss that issue. After all, our primary problem with Islam is its fanatical ideological commitment to destroying Western Civilization. By even mentioning the potential harm due to inbreeding in the Islamic world, I fear that all we do is provide new opportunities for Islamists (e.g., CAIR) to attempt to discredit us by claiming that all involved in this discussion are somehow racist (i.e., as if we were, instead, ridiculing Muslims as genetically inferior, rather than expressing legitimate concern over cousin marriage). Let’s not hand the Islamists such a propaganda tool. Thank you.
see also
What I said about the 9/11 plotters can also be said about Nashiri: the pending embassy bombing indictment could easily be adjusted to add the Cole attack. If I were Attorney General Holder and President Obama, and I were hell-bent on giving the top al-Qaeda terrorists civilian trials, I would supersede the embassy bombing indictment to add the terrorists involved in both the 9/11 and Cole attacks to the case before Judge Kaplan . But . . . I would delay announcing that I was doing this until after the November elections because of the uproar it would cause and the hot seat on which it would put Democrats already beleaguered in their reelection bids.
But that’s just me. I’m sure the administration wouldn’t think of doing something like that, right?
@ rain of lead:
Seriously Breedworthy
@ My 2 Cents:
well hey there M2C
you seem new round these parts
Welcome!
BuddyG wrote:
I’m trying to decide which is funnier, that the cute little Japanese girl knocks herself unconscious or that absolutely no one notices.
@ rain of lead:
@ Iron Fist:
And all this happening on the 10th anniversary. Wanna bet the “official” withdrawing of charges against the terrorists at Gitmo happens just before 9/11/2011?
My 2 Cents wrote:
They hate us anyone, fuck them. I could care less and Islam is not a race.
No where in this post does it say that it’s racial inferiority.
@ My 2 Cents:
1389 did a pretty good job on the footnotes and citations ( iwould like more, but thats just me), her post is from a scientific point of view and facts are facts when it comes to genetics. i appreciate your concern and you do raise a valid point about handing over some ammo. i for one would love to get cair in a discussion on this topic.
@ rain of lead:
Thanks. I’ve actually been here a while, but I comment relatively rarely.
F wrote:
“uhhh…..no.”
@ My 2 Cents:
Ah yes, let’s have the enemy tell how we can fight. Excellent strategy there.
later ya’ll
lunch break is over, back to work.
Iron Fist wrote:
It most certainly is, and I agree with the other thing which you wrote. All one needs to do is take a look at the 56 Islamic countries (and counting) currently on the planet. Islam is also anti-civilization, anti-progress, anti-science, and anti-humanity.
I remember reading that Spain translates more foreign books than the entire Arabic world does, which is hardly surprising to me. Islamic society means an ignorant, savage society and wherever Islam gains a foothold, that area takes a huge step backwards in terms of human advancement and development.
If the whole world became Islamic, it wouldn’t take long before all technological advancements were completely halted and everybody would be wiping their ass with their left hand. The medieval dark ages would be a renaissance compared to an Islamic world takeover.
@ My 2 Cents:
ROTFLMAO… Muslims do not need legitimate reasons for being offended, hell they get offended if they think their favorite Camel might have been offended. They do not need legitimate reason to attempt to discredit their western critics, the fact that their western critics are not Muslim is all the excuse they need.
@ Rodan:
I appreciate your view, but that wasn’t my point. Asserting any genetic consequence whatsoever about any practice in Islam, whether justly or unjustly, whether scientifically valid or not, is an invitation to being painted as a racist and (as a consequence) having one’s arguments dismissed.
rain of lead wrote:
Ut-oh…back on your head eh…
@ rain of lead:
Back on yer head…
kindasorta on topic:
i heard that the concussed/inbred are lousy shots.
@ Iron Fist:
The reason why Muslims marry their cousins is for trust issues.
Keeping within the tribe is one thing, but keeping marriage within the family helps people trust each other even more.
So they destroy themselves by not trusting their coreligionists unless they’re fairly close blood relatives.
Even then, it doesn’t always work. Saddam had his two sons-in-law murdered for disloyalty although they were his cousins too (along with Saddam’s wife).
@ F:
No bet. I can’t afford to lose the money. I think Obama will save it as a final “Fuck You!” to the country, though. I can’t think of anything he could do to show the depth of his hatred and contempt for America and Americans more.
My 2 Cents wrote:
So…. They have already painted us as racists, like F said, I do not let my enemies decide what my strategy for fighting them will be.
@ coldwarrior:
Go IAF! Happy hunting!
My 2 Cents wrote:
Being accused of being racist is a complement coming from the left and the terror enablers. Islam is of course not a race, and any Islamist is equally disgusting, regardless of their skin color.
Charles Krauthammer sums up the liberal “racist” desperation and namecalling in a new article, called “The last refuge of a liberal”.
Racist accusations coming from the left and the terror enablers have lost all meaning in today’s USA, it is a total joke. In Obummer’s America, everything is upside down, and I will submit that being called a racist by a leftist is actually a good thing, because it is a sign that they have no argument at all to make and they simply resort to the cheapest and ineffective trick in their play book.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/26/AR2010082605233.html
@ Eliana:
If you see my 23, I validate what you said. It’s a Middle East Tribal/Clan thing. I give examples of my Lebanese family.
@ Eliana:
From a Western standpoint, that is rather disturbing, on a number of different levels. These people are barbarians, and no amount of lipstick you put on that pig is going to make it smell any better…
Mad Mullah wrote:
yep, teh 0 and his ilk have beat the fear of the word/label ‘racist’ out of many of us.
now, i dont care if i am called a racist. it is a non-word to me now.
@ doriangrey:
I agree with you, too. And I respect your logic. However, I fear that you are ignoring the issue of how arguments presented by Islamists to not-well-informed individuals will be perceived. We should not make it so easy for the Islamists to develop their propaganda. And by even mentioning potential genetic issues among muslims, we open the door to being accused of racism (regardless of the nuances involved) and being summarily dismissed as “Islamophobes.” And I might add that that particular term always bugs me. After all, a phobia is an irrational fear, while fear of Islam is completely rational, in my view. Islam is by far the world’s most dangerous ideology.
F wrote:
I read about that this morning too. Absolutely disgusting, but then again, I can not say that I am surprised at all. Time and time again, Obummer and Holder have shown which side they’re on, and I can’t say that it’s on the side of the American people.
Mad Mullah wrote:
the money quote!
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Does this explain why Charles of Wales is such a dickhead?
@ coldwarrior:
You’re a racist, worshipping at the evil altar of FOX.
LOL!! You do that, Malkia!
@ Iron Fist:
Don’t insult pigs!
snork wrote:
Yup! Prince Chucky is an inbred.
Eliana wrote:
Hmmm, I vaguely remember reading a treaties on something to that affect when I was in college, although it did not deal with Muslims. Wish I could remember what it was called, it had to do with power structures and betrayal and why the guy at the top always had to betray everyone. It was almost the exact opposite of Graham Nash’s mathematical formal for the success of mating.
@ My 2 Cents:
I don’t give a tinker’s dam about how the Mooslums argue about fairness. They are not about respect or fairness, only submission to their cult.
@ F:
A fair is a place they give ribbons to prize hogs. It has no place in a fight.
Mad Mullah wrote:
The previous thread explained that.
BrakLindsey Graham was lobotomized byReaganray guns.@ Rodan:
Isn’t lipstick made from pig?
coldwarrior wrote:
Me neither.
Now they morons are calling everybody who is against the GZ mosque bigots and racists, that is the majority of Americans! So we are in good company.
Iron Fist wrote:
I think it is because they’d rather b*ttf*ck a man than have a normal heterosexual relationship with a woman because their ideology teaches them that women are “unclean”. The sooner these freaks inbreed themselves out of existence, the sooner the rest of us can live in peace.
Btw, that picture of Charles II of Spain looks an awful lot like CFnJ. I’m just saying…
OT–
I would love it if Cabbie Stabby Enright would admit that he engaged in the assault to “prove” the existence of “Islamophobia.”
There is an overwhelming likelihood that is the case, but it would be nice if Cabbie Stabby were to break the leftist omerta.
California State University Prof: Building Islamic Center Near Ground Zero Will Increase Hatred of Islam in the US, “Which Is No Different than Other Ideologies of Hatred, Like the Nazi Hostility toward the Jews”…
@ buzzsawmonkey:
He’ll have plenty of time to explain his actions to the ever growing Muslim prison population.
@ Kirly:
{Kirly}
Good to see you!
Eliana wrote:
Doesn’t sound like they have a lot of faith in their faith. OTOH, the opposite has historically been true of the Jews, leading to all manner of conspiracy theories. Madoff pretty much single-handedly ended that.
Kirly wrote:
And assholes smell like flowers?
@ F:
Forgive me, but I’m not sure what you mean exactly. I wasn’t talking about fairness, per se. I was, however, discussing what I perceive as ineffective vs effective strategies of fighting against Islamic totalitarianism and Sharia law. Islam’s fanatic ideology is both its greatest strength and its greatest weakness; it is its strategic center. I say we should endeavor to: (1) make sure that the public understands exactly what that ideology stands for, and (2) rally the public to support Western Civilization instead. By the way, I think Blogmocracy makes some important contributions in that front. And for that, I thank you all!
@ Mad Mullah:
I’ve been called racist, and worse, by better people than Progressives and Leftists.
I’m all for more Human Race and less Koranimals.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I doubt he planned on getting caught. oops! I
lovehate it when a plancomes togetherfalls apart!@ Kirly:
It’s something about that name Chucky!
Has McCain called for Amnesty and reaching across the aisle yet? Or is it too s soon?
Iron Fist wrote:
hi IF! {IF} right back atcha!
@ Rodan:
He has to ask Meghan first.
@ F:
The American hostility towards Islam is justified. The German one against Jews was criminal, evil and with no justification. Jews were some of the most loyal citizens of Germany and assisted Bismark’s unification. This Professor is mixing apples and oranges.
Rodan wrote:
too soon. wait until at least after the midterms when the sheeple go back to sleep. if he’s going to flip again, and i do expect he will, i’d say mid to late 2011 or maybe even 2012.
@ Rodan:
He can’t give the reach around until he slides it in the rest of us!
(Eeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwww!
)
Iron Fist wrote:
Nothing like having a president who cares more about Muslim terrorists than his own country. Whenever he has an opportunity, 0 always sides against America’s interests.
@ snork:
Only for people who use lilaxatives!
(ok, I’ll stop now)
@ Kirly:
It wouldn’t surprise me to see him go Donk early next year if it is a 50-50 Senate. He’ll sell out first so as to get the best deal.
Bumr50 wrote:
Whatever the hell it’s made from it’s damned difficult to clean up.
My kids once got into Mommy’s purse and decorated their room with her lipstick. Ugh, what a freakin’ mess.
@ My 2 Cents:
I don’t give a shit about what the Mooslums think, period.
That clear enough for ya?
We are in the midst of a genocidal war, and letting the enemy (Islam) determine how we can fight will ensure our defeat.
That clear enough for ya?
To find out how concerned I am about the feelings of a Mooslum regarding being accused of being an inbred, pull my finger.
Kirly wrote:
In fairness, in the days before antibiotics that could kill gonorrhea and syphilis, when birth control was not readily available, and when the only women readily available for sex were, if not outright prostitutes, probably sufficiently “experienced” to pose a threat of acquiring an incurable STD, the idea that it was “cleaner” to permit a man to service you was a not-uncommon rationale used by men seeking to seduce other men in the US—less than 100 years ago.
@ Kirly:
Hey there, dear Kirls.
F wrote:
Fail.
My 2 Cents wrote:
Those who cannot see through the Muslim argument will not see through them no matter what. Islam is a religious ideology that does not shine a brilliant light of intellectual awareness on itself, it instead relies on the individuals need to express a inner manifestation of repressive control over their personal environment.
Muslims, like Marxist/progressives are control freaks, they have uncontrollable urges to control everything around them. Furthermore they lack the actual self discipline to control themselves which is why both groups are willing to go to such disgusting and violent extremes to achieve their goals.
Those “not-well-informed individuals” as you describe them either don’t care or are to lazy or otherwise preoccupied to be bother by actual genuine dialog regarding the true nature of Islam.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Before AIDS. Makes you wonder…
Rodan wrote:
More like mixing apples and bird shit, but hey, you hit on why I submitted the link.
@ livefreeor die:
Remember, he’s already issued an edict that forbids the use of that term.
They’re terrorists who may be motivated by a misguided interpretation of a religion bearing some resemblance to Islam.
@ F:
Yes, you are completely clear. But I think you aren’t quite seeing my point. I’m worried about the all too effective abilities of the Islamists to propagandize the non-Muslim public into supporting them. We, the defenders of civilization, need to win the hearts and minds of non-Muslims who have been confused by the MSM and the Islamist propaganda machine. OK? I realize that we may differ on what approaches are best. The best strategies are not always immediately obvious. Best regards.
@ lobo91:
Does he still permit them to be called terrorists? It wouldn’t do to offend them by calling them terrorists. It’s not like they are a group of teabaggers or anything like that, that we can offend them with impugnity. These are Peaceful Muslims, with Dignity…
snork wrote:
maybe all that inbreeding has damaged their sense of smell as well as everything else.
@ Kirly:
@ Iron Fist:
SOmetime in 2011, McCain will be in a joing press conference with Obama and announce that he will work with his good friend in a bi partisan manner on (Insert Issue here).
@ doriangrey:
Well said. But just one nitpick: Most Muslims were simply born into their religion. They may not actually have done a lot of deep reflection about their beliefs.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Ew, ew, ewwwwww!!!!!11
Cato and Joycelin Elders have a better idea. Nobody ever caught an STD from his hand, and I’ve never seen a pregnant hand.
@ My 2 Cents:
Winning the hearts and minds doesn’t win wars, only destroying the enemy until they are either dead or submitting without conditions wins wars.
I find the point you are trying to make naive at best, and suicidal.
But I wouldn’t ever contemplate stopping you from expressing your opinions.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
so you’re saying they are only 100 years behind the times?
F wrote:
hi furry.
Iron Fist wrote:
You are probably right. Which means that if he was put up to this, he may roll on whoever did in fact put him up to it, which would be sweet. If it was his own idea, if he is sufficiently demented he might even reveal that as a way of trying to justify his action.
Rodan wrote:
That’s the new leftist and terrorist talking point right there. “Muslims are the new Jews.”, which is a pretty disgusting assertion.
That is of course 100% false as Jews are still the Jews and the Muslims are more like the new Nazis as there has been a huge rise in worldwide Jew-Hate, especially in Europe, and that violence and hatred is coming from primitive Muslim immigrants, Islamic sympathetic USA hating leftists and terrorist supporters.
There is widespread holocaust denial also in the Muslim world, so why would they even dare to compare themselves to Jews and to an event that they deny took place? Muslims aren’t the brightest folks around.
@ snork:
Besides, everyone knows how much the Mohammedans love their camels…
islam not a religion.
now time for me to have a beer and get ready to bbq some ribs.
My 2 Cents wrote:
pardon me but… so? if they are so stupid as to not critically examine what they believe then they are indeed the lost cause that I believe they are. that is all. carry on.
@ Kirly:
Furries? Where? Eeeew, eeeewwww, eeeeewwwwww!
@ Kirly:
Oooooh, Kirls noticed me!
(does Snoopy happy dance)
Kirly wrote:
Just pointing out that a similar rationale was not uncommonly used here in the West, not that long ago.
Iron Fist wrote:
Hey, she wasn’t around for that particular “meltdown”.
My 2 Cents wrote:
Oh make no mistake about it, he see’s your point, he just totally rejects it. As likewise do I, civilization will not be saved from savage barbarians by using dainty white glove tactics and allowing the barbarians to define the rules of engagement or the time and place of the battle. That tactic has resulted in the collapse of every empire or civilization to try it.
There is but one single solitary tactical solution to barbarian hordes at your gates, feed them your liberal suicidal fools and then kill all the barbarians.
@ Kirly:
And of course, Islam actively discourages such critical examination, and punishes those who act on it with death.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Makes one wonder what the rationale will be 100 years from now.
My 2 Cents wrote:
Think about that observation, it leads to a very obvious conclusion.
@ Mad Mullah:
Lets see Muslism have been some of the biggest perpretators of Genocide and persecution in world history. Jews have been victims of genocide and persecutions.
The Left really is being dishonest.
F wrote:
Oh look, I found video of Furry….
@ My 2 Cents:
Islam punishes examination of the cult beliefs with death.
Take a look at what I found on Amazon…
Islam Will Conquer All Other Religions And American Power Will Diminish: Read How Allah (God’s) Prediction Will Soon Come To Pass
The authors are Mohamed Azad and Bibi Amina. What are they, a bunch of racist evil Islamophobic Zionazi Hindu-Nationalist Christian-Fundamentalist Turkicidal-Armenian bigots?
F wrote:
Well, it really kind of has to, because the number of people who would willingly walk right straight into hell just to make someone else happy really isn’t that high.
@ Philip_Daniel:
I say we fight a duel, right now over it. Thermonuclear weapons at 6000 km. We go first…
My 2 Cents wrote:
Clearly, we need to build more reflecting pools in Muslim lands as an outreach effort.
@ Philip_Daniel:
Oh, here’s the product description…
Philip_Daniel wrote:
What about the Ground Zero Mosque Imam who is being portrayed as a “moderate” by many in the terrorist sympathizing and lying MSM?
The Arabic version of Rauf’s book was published in Malaysia and entitled, “A Call to Prayer from the World Trade Center Rubble: Islamic Da’wah from the Heart of America Post-9/11”
@ Philip_Daniel:
Oh my, how respectful of others and their beliefs those authors (and Islam by extension) are.
@ Philip_Daniel:
So, in other words, they haven’t done anything but sit on thier laurals for the last thousand years, more or less. Great plan, camelfuckers…
lobo91 wrote:
HEAVY METAL, DUDE!
@ doriangrey:
Well, I didn’t mean to give the wrong impression. If you knew me, you would never think of me as supporting a “dainty” approach to Islamism. I’m probably more of a hawk than you. Really.
In keeping with the Heavy Metal theme…
Bang your head! Islam’s gonna drive you mad!
Methinks we (me mostly) scared off an infrequent poster.
Oh darn.
Philip_Daniel wrote:
Does Chucky have it on his Kindle?
Philip_Daniel wrote:
Interesting!
F wrote:
Yes, that’s one of the reasons we need to defeat it utterly and completely.
Iron Fist wrote:
Comes from all the headbanging and butt raising they do, five times a day genuflecting to their silver vulva lips encased idol.
OT, but just doing a drive-by –
Did you already discuss or mention this?
Glenn Beck’s “Restoring Honor” Rally at the Lincoln Memorial
F wrote:
Now there’s a name for a band…
Kirly wrote:
Cap’n John hasn’t started to tack back to starboard yet? Give him time. He needs to hold up his finger and check the wind direction.
@ Philip_Daniel:
What BS, it was the Plague of Justinian and The Final Roman (Byzantine)- Persian Wars which allowed Islam to grow. This is such propaganda.
Hey you should post on this book.
@ The Osprey:
zimbabwe lecture/ original paper from yours truley up at 0900 tomorrow…
pamwe chete!
Wow, talk about a welfare suck, check this shit out:
Free money from Obama’s stash to anybody that correctly guesses her Party affiliation. Wow. Good work, if you can get it. I wonder how many people there are on the Federal payroll like that?
@ F:
No you didn’t scare him/her off. They just expressed that what we say here can and will be used against us to prove that we are mean and evil-spirited. The problem with the war (and it is a war) is most people in the US didn’t catch the 300 wake up calls (including 9/11, the first WTC bombing, Khobar Towers, etc…) Most think that muslims are just a small problem with a few minorities who took their religion a bit too far. They will not wake until a Beslan type event ossurs to them or to a loved one. (and for some, even that won’t do it) People are lulled to sleep by the MSM to think that all religions have their bad seed. They can’t say that islam at its core is evil and bad. After all, its a religion of the noble savages, not like those evil Christians
@ F:
Don’t dis the Pet Rock, man. It’s like, holey ‘n shit…
F wrote:
If you are referring to me, I was delayed briefly in responding because of a phone call. Y’all haven’t scared me off (and you shouldn’t want to either, since we really are on the same side).
@ buzzsawmonkey:
A Butch band like Heart, eh?
The Osprey wrote:
I’m getting my nautical directions mixed up. Cap’n John has been tacking to starboard, I expect him to tack back to port soon. I think he’s on an uneven keel.
@ Iron Fist:
Riddle me this. The muzzies are so totally against idolators yet… they circle and pray to a big black box building with a rock inside.
@ MikeA:
Thanks. You meant 3000, by the way. And I would throw in all the murders done by Palestinian terrorists too, despite the fact that most westerners still haven’t realized that the war against Israel is just a part of the larger war that the Islamists are waging on everyone else.
coldwarrior wrote:
Would you mind sending me an advanced look at it? I think you have my email addy.
@ The Osprey:
Considering how old McLame is, it would be tacking back to Larboard.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I still think that’s a tail light off of a ’59 Cadillac.
@ MikeA:
Thou shalt not question the Pet Rock. The Pet Rock is holey, unlike other materials ofg the earth…
Actually, it isn’t even a meteorite. As though worshipping a meteorite is exactly sane behavior. Islam is, was, and always will be of the Devil. It enshrines Idolatry while claiming to forbid it, worships a man (pedophile and thief) as a god, and is extremely violently expansionist. Islam delenda est. It really is for the good of the world…
MikeA wrote:
That rock is some sort of meteorite. I suggest that all Muslims migrate to Mars or to wherever that rock originated from.
Maybe not. It looks more like the center engine off a 727.
@ Mad Mullah:
OK… A rock from the sky… It really is a messed up belief system. Makes no sense logically but hey, everything is morally equivalent to the libs so who cares if they stone women or kill gays, its just their way.. like your eccentric Uncle.
@ snork:
Ya know, now that you say that..
See, the muzzies invented heavier than air flight before anyone else. All praise the moon god!!!!
coldwarrior wrote:
I’m a psychopath my name is Bob Mugabe
I’m the numbah one banana
In Zimbabwe
Since I haven’t got a clue
I’ll blame it all on you
And the whities
From London
To Harare!
@ MikeA:
No matter what we do or don’t do is propaganda for the enemy, so that puts showing respect or consideration of their feelings into the “ways to lose” column.
We let the 9/11 Victory Mosque get built at Ground Zero, and we tell the Mooslums we bow to their cult, we don’t allow the building and we are bigots and Islamophobes. Heads we lose, Tails they win.
MikeA wrote:
And kissing the silver vajayjay, oh wait wasn’t there also another religion that used to circle the kaaba and stuff?
F wrote:
Ya know, their Dad was a recipient of the Medal of Honor for his actions during the Battle of Guam, and 26th Commandant of the Marine Corps.
@ The Osprey:
send me an email….i accidentally deleted a bunch of stuff…
snork wrote:
Actually, it looks like an old fashioned out door shitter if ya ask me…
The Osprey wrote:
the paper was written before he lost his mind completely.
RASMUSSEN POLLING: Voters Now Trust Republicans More On All 10 Key Issues…
BuddyG wrote:
Their father was a great man, to bad the greatness ended with him, they were very attractive and talented musicians, but really shitty human beings.
@ F:
There’s a plus side to this ground-zero mosque fiasco. The public is learning a LOT more about radical Islam and is not liking what it is discovering. JihadWatch.org is getting record traffic (way, way up), for example, and you know Robert Spencer is doing a superb job educating the people who go there. The war against Islamism must take place on all fronts (for that is how they are attacking us), including on the physical battlefield, the legal battlefield, the legislative battlefield, the publicity/propaganda war, etc. Fight on, Blogmocracy netizens. It is no exaggeration to say that our civilization is at stake.
doriangrey wrote:
Other than their 1970s hit songs, I know nothing about them.
@ BuddyG:
Well, in this instance the fruit fell FAR left of the tree.
My 2 Cents wrote:
This is exact what the liberals in Germany did with Thilo Sarrazin and his new book (I linked to it in an earlier thread). But on the other hand it is very dangerous NOT to speak about it. Sarrazin makes the point in his book that because of Muslim immigrants and their inbreeding and the “white trailer trash” Germany stultifies.
F wrote:
Well clearly this is just a misunderstanding, once President Obama explains to us for the 500th time how wonderful all those things he is doing to us are we will finally be thankful for his beneficent kindness…
BuddyG wrote:
I used to know the guy who built and owned the recording studio where they recorded their first 6 or 7 records, he knew them very well and the shit they pulled on him was, well classic liberal bullshit, they actually stole his recording studio from him.
@ Guggi:
Thanks for the thoughtful comment.
@ doriangrey:
Now how soon after the election would a Republican majority screw the pooch and get thrown out in favor of the Dems again?
Got to go folks. Not being scared away, just have other responsibilities. Keep up the good work.
@ F:
Speakin’ of rock stars, I heard a story that back in the early 70s Alice Cooper dressed up in army gear at a concert and yelled “Let’s go kill some gooks” (or something like that). (Can’t find a link).
Too bad it didn’t happen at Woodstock. That would have been interesting.
Apropos of nothing, yet still peripherally related to the topic:
Scientists: We’ve cracked wheat’s genetic code
Guggi wrote:
Is it just me, or is “Sarrazin” the most ironic surname for this person?
doriangrey wrote:
Well, a broken clock is right twice a day…
Eliana
From a Western standpoint, that is rather disturbing, on a number of different levels. These people are barbarians, and no amount of lipstick you put on that pig is going to make it smell any better…
But ya can’t beat the smell of bacon in the morning.
F wrote:
Just as quickly as they can manage it I imagine…
My 2 Cents wrote:
But the host-countries have to pay a high price for health care and social welfare.
My 2 Cents wrote:
I, for one, am fed up with being bullied and blackmailed with regard to the “race card.”
Inbreeding is ENCOURAGED by Islamic doctrine.
It has deleterious consequences for both the individual and society.
I expect to be called every name in the book, and quite possibly be shot at also, before it’s all over.
Those who have already made up their minds to dismiss my arguments will do so anyway, and I don’t give a rat’s patootie about that.
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