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Some Geology and Development and an open drive time think piece

by coldwarrior ( 125 Comments › )
Filed under Economy, Open thread, Technology at September 8th, 2010 - 4:30 pm

There was a massive 7.0 Mag quake that did a real number on Christchurch NZ last week. There was also a 7.0 magnitude earthquake that devastated Haiti last year.

Both are magnitude 7.0, both hit a population center, yet the death toll in NZ was ZERO, the death toll in Haiti was 230,000.

Port au Prince was founded in the 1740′s while Christchurch was founded a century later. Even by the 1850′s buildings weren’t that different, and newer buildings would have been in pace.  Besides the massive amount of deaths in Haiti, the other striking difference is that there was $2USD billion damage in New Zealand, and $20USD Billion in Haiti

So lets go here for an on the ground report:

Learning from past earthquakes (especially the magnitude 7.8 Napier earthquake in 1931), New Zealand has implemented stringent building codes. Modern homes are generally of timber-frame construction, which flex and absorb the energy of an earthquake. Modern commercial and office buildings are generally constructed with isolated foundations, while many historic buildings have been retrofitted with earthquake dampening devices. New Zealand is now a world leader in earthquake engineering.

Still, there was significant damage in Christchurch, most often to older un-reinforced brick structures, and in areas where liquefaction amplified the ground shaking. And of course, there was major damage to the water and sewerage infrastructure, and disruptions to power supply and transportation networks.

The rebuilding cost in Canterbury is currently estimated at over @2 billion (NZ), compared to over $20 billion for the rebuilding efforts in Haiti.

Haiti is one of the poorest countries in the world, and does not benefit from stringent building codes. Construction practices are substandard and earthquake-proof buildings are few. An estimated 250,000 residences were destroyed or severely damaged in Haiti, leaving nearly 1 million people homeless. Even such important buildings as the Presidential Palace and National Assembly did not withstand the severity of the shaking. The collapse of buildings in Haiti led to tens of thousands of people being buried under rubble, or trapped inside unsafe structures.

Essential services were decimated. Infrastructure vital to the disaster response was severely damaged, meaning that people could not get the help that they needed in time. The loss of hospitals, major roads, rail links, harbours, and communication networks severely hampered rescue and relief efforts. Without sufficient aid, thirst, famine, looting, and eventually disease took a terrible toll.

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125 Responses to “Some Geology and Development and an open drive time think piece”
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  1. 1 | September 8, 2010 4:33 pm

    Damn racist Scottish Positivists


  2. 2 | September 8, 2010 4:37 pm

    iT’s all about building code. Chile also had a major earthquake and came out OK. SO it’s all about code. To get code you need law and order. Haiti doesn’t have that.


  3. snork
    3 | September 8, 2010 4:37 pm

    Building codes notwithstanding, wood structures are a lot more earthquake resistant than masonry. But much of the world looks down their noses at wood as a poor person’s material.


  4. 4 | September 8, 2010 4:44 pm

    You also have to have an anti-corruption culture, something Haiti also lacks, or the codes are meaningless. I also remember at the time one reporter handling some concrete and actually crumbling it with his bare hands, guess they don’t use a good mix.


  5. coldwarrior
    5 | September 8, 2010 4:44 pm

    @ Rodan:
    @ snork:

    what were the chilean structures made of?


  6. coldwarrior
    6 | September 8, 2010 4:47 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    anti-corruption culture

    big factor


  7. snork
    7 | September 8, 2010 4:52 pm

    @ Rancher:
    But you don’t know if they were built by contractors or the homeowner. A lot of people in the third world do it themselves.


  8. coldwarrior
    8 | September 8, 2010 4:55 pm

    one was a french colony, one was british


  9. 9 | September 8, 2010 5:00 pm

    Looks like that Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on “Firearms in Commerce” isn’t what we were afraid of.

    A source on Capitol Hill tells me that this hearing has nothing of the sort at issue. The hearing will explore S941, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives Reform and Firearms Modernization Act of 2009, which was passed in the House as HR2296. The bill has a slate of bipartisan sponsors in the Senate, including Judiciary chair Pat Leahy (D-VT) and author Mike Crapo (R-ID), John Cornyn (R-TX), Max Baucus (D-MT), and 33 others. The description of the bill from the legislative text shows that it mainly focuses on management of federal licenses and does so in a manner that 2nd Amendment activists will support:


  10. 10 | September 8, 2010 5:02 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    @ snork:
    what were the chilean structures made of?

    Pop corn, White fluffy pop corn…


  11. 11 | September 8, 2010 5:10 pm

    @ Rancher:

    Wait and see what they actually do before you relax. I won’t feel better until a Republican House (and Senate?) are seated.


  12. LGoPs
    12 | September 8, 2010 5:13 pm

    I heard that the vast majority of the dead in the Chilean earhtquake died from exposure during the night……..because it was chilly.


  13. LGoPs
    13 | September 8, 2010 5:16 pm

    I also heard that earhtquake can also be spelled earthquake……..

    :(


  14. 14 | September 8, 2010 5:16 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    Looks like that Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on “Firearms in Commerce” isn’t what we were afraid of.
    A source on Capitol Hill tells me that this hearing has nothing of the sort at issue. The hearing will explore S941, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives Reform and Firearms Modernization Act of 2009, which was passed in the House as HR2296. The bill has a slate of bipartisan sponsors in the Senate, including Judiciary chair Pat Leahy (D-VT) and author Mike Crapo (R-ID), John Cornyn (R-TX), Max Baucus (D-MT), and 33 others. The description of the bill from the legislative text shows that it mainly focuses on management of federal licenses and does so in a manner that 2nd Amendment activists will support:

    99 percent of all fire arms regulations are a clear and willful violation of the second amendment on the part of both the federal and state governments. The second amendment does not say, shall not be infringed except when the federal or state government get scared.

    What the second amendment does unequivocally and indisputably say, is “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED” exactly what that means could not possibly be more crystal clear.

    The Strongest Possible Restrictive Language
    First and Second Amendment protections were always given the very strongest possible restrictive language – no law shall be passed – shall make no law – inviolable – not be deprived or abridged – not be restrained -- shall not be infringed -- nor shall the right be infringed -- shall make no laws touching -- shall make no laws to infringe. The Second Amendment’s “right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” language was clearly not intended to allow for extensive reasonable regulation. Rather, it was intended to prevent all laws and regulations that would result in the people being deprived, abridged, restrained, narrowed, or restricted in the exercise of their fundamental right to keep and bear arms.

    So making the false assumption that just because this bill does not appear to increase the draconian and unconstitutional restrictions on gun ownership that it isn’t a continued assault on the second amendment is to ignore the reality that these changes add precedent to and strengthen the legal standing of laws that are 100 percent unconstitutional.


  15. coldwarrior
    15 | September 8, 2010 5:23 pm

    @ LGoPs:

    :lol:


  16. 16 | September 8, 2010 5:25 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Good point! Even I am lulled by the weight of precedent. In truth, it would require a Constitutional Amendment for any of these laws to be legal. Of course, they will still kill you to enforce them…


  17. NoThreat2U
    17 | September 8, 2010 5:28 pm

    @ LGoPs:
    @ LGoPs:
    There have been rumours……


  18. 18 | September 8, 2010 5:34 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    So making the false assumption that just because this bill does not appear to increase the draconian and unconstitutional restrictions on gun ownership that it isn’t a continued assault on the second amendment is to ignore the reality that these changes add precedent to and strengthen the legal standing of laws that are 100 percent unconstitutional.

    True enough, although the NRA is for the bill. My big fear though was that they were going to use the Commerce Clause to further infringe on our rights. The Commerce Clause has been used since 1940 to let the Feds do all kinds of unconstitutional crap, most recently Obamacare’s mandate that you have to buy healthcare insurance.


  19. Beeduwine
    19 | September 8, 2010 5:39 pm

    Is the Iron Fist Rule on posting while drunk in effect here?


  20. snork
    20 | September 8, 2010 5:41 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    The Commerce Clause has been used since 1940 to let the Feds do all kinds of unconstitutional crap, most recently Obamacare’s mandate that you have to buy healthcare insurance.

    Not yet. Stay tuned on that one.


  21. NoThreat2U
    21 | September 8, 2010 5:42 pm

    @ Beeduwine:
    The rule has been revised…only women can post here while drunk ;)


  22. Bumr50
    22 | September 8, 2010 5:43 pm

    @ Beeduwine:

    Whiskey drunk or beer drunk?


  23. Beeduwine
    23 | September 8, 2010 5:44 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    Beer. I think it’s safer to lurk.

    I might spill the beans on stuff like being a huge Simply Red fan.


  24. LGoPs
    24 | September 8, 2010 5:45 pm

    Beeduwine wrote:

    Is the Iron Fist Rule on posting while drunk in effect here?

    Why no. Quite the contrary. While posting drunk is not absolutely mandatory….it is highly encouraged.
    :)


  25. NoThreat2U
    25 | September 8, 2010 5:46 pm

    @ Beeduwine:
    And what is wrong with that?


  26. 26 | September 8, 2010 5:46 pm

    Beeduwine wrote:

    Is the Iron Fist Rule on posting while drunk in effect here?

    The rule doesn’t say you can’t post, just that if you think you’re too drunk to post then you are. Kind of like if you think you might be gay then you’re gay.


  27. NoThreat2U
    27 | September 8, 2010 5:46 pm

    @ LGoPs:
    LOL We always like to see who can make the biggest ass of themselves. I am sure I won that honor a time or two with my incoherant rantings. lol


  28. snork
    28 | September 8, 2010 5:47 pm

    Umm…

    Quran Burning Pastor Learned Everything He Knows About Muslims from YouTube
    WINGNUTS | Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:43:53 pm PDT

    CBS News has quotes from a deposition in which Pastor Terry Jones of the loony Dove World Outreach Center unapologetically states that he learned everything he knows about sharia law from YouTube videos.

    A deposition obtained by CBS News from a court case last month raises question about how much Pastor Jones even knows about his controversial cause.

    According to the deposition, Jones and his wife learned much of what they know about Sharia Law -- the sacred law of the Muslim religion -- by watching videos on YouTube.

    “Do you know where Sharia law came from?” Jones is asked.

    “Not really, no,” he replies, “I think there’s experts that say it came from the old Mosaic law. But no.”

    Attorneys also asked Jones how many Muslims he knows personally.

    “I don’t think I know any personally,” he says, “I haven’t interviewed any.” Jones also says he has not attended any interfaith discussions and that he believes that such discussions are part of “our problem.”

    So where did you learn everything you know, Chuck? :twisted:


  29. Beeduwine
    29 | September 8, 2010 5:47 pm

    @ LGoPs:

    I believe that’s referred to as ‘baiting’. Heh.


  30. NoThreat2U
    30 | September 8, 2010 5:47 pm

    @ Rancher:
    8O lol


  31. NoThreat2U
    31 | September 8, 2010 5:48 pm

    @ snork:
    So what? Their actions speak louder than any taqqiya they might spew. And since when did it become wrong to not like someone? Is no one entitled to the own opinions anymore. Fucking robots.


  32. Beeduwine
    32 | September 8, 2010 5:48 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Beeduwine:
    And what is wrong with that?

    I was just making a funny.

    But I’ll never admit to loving Kenny G.


  33. Beeduwine
    33 | September 8, 2010 5:50 pm

    Shit, my own avatar is freaking me out. It’s like me watching myself through a hole in the screen.


  34. NoThreat2U
    34 | September 8, 2010 5:51 pm

    Anyone wanna hear my new favorite song? Too bad :) lol


  35. snork
    35 | September 8, 2010 5:52 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:
    “So what” is pretty much a stock response to anything Chuckles puts up. It’s not as if he ever gets the goods on anybody any more. It’s always some sideshow non issue. So what if he learned it on youtube? The question is, is it wrong?

    Meh. That’s too much work dealing with that kind of hard question. It’s too much like algebra.


  36. Beeduwine
    36 | September 8, 2010 5:56 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    Nice to hear something I haven’t heard before. Is it a christian song?


  37. NoThreat2U
    37 | September 8, 2010 5:59 pm

    @ Beeduwine:
    LOL I like Simply Red. Kenny G? Something about his hair creeps me out. lol


  38. NoThreat2U
    38 | September 8, 2010 6:01 pm

    @ Beeduwine:
    Well it is a country song, so I guess it could double as a christian song. They had another video telling how this song came about. I didn’t watch it, but maybe I should?

    @ snork:
    Well if HE mentions it, it IS important. But if anyone on the rightwingnut blogosphere mentions something, it is usually an outrageous outrage or nontroversy.


  39. NoThreat2U
    39 | September 8, 2010 6:04 pm

    @ Beeduwine:
    It is just about making the best of the time you have, whether it be 10 20 0r more years of your life.

    (paraphrased)


  40. snowcrash
    40 | September 8, 2010 6:06 pm

    @ Beeduwine:
    You want a barette? I have lots, even some black and purple plastic ones, if you are into the emo thing. Simply Red was good. The song that heavily sampled the Hall and Oates song was one of my favs, at the time.


  41. NoThreat2U
    41 | September 8, 2010 6:07 pm

    I need a dance partner!


  42. NoThreat2U
    42 | September 8, 2010 6:08 pm

    He really did kick some serious ass with that song!


  43. Beeduwine
    43 | September 8, 2010 6:10 pm

    @ snowcrash:

    Heh. No emo for me. My taste in music is fairly ecclectic. These days, it’s mostly Elvis, Charlatans UK, early U2 (pre POP) and Blur.


  44. NoThreat2U
    44 | September 8, 2010 6:11 pm

    Presley or Costello?????


  45. 45 | September 8, 2010 6:11 pm

    @ Rancher:
    LOL


  46. Beeduwine
    46 | September 8, 2010 6:13 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    Brings back some memories. Why the heck did she leave with that dude?


  47. 47 | September 8, 2010 6:13 pm

    Looks like the Libertarians told Murkowski no so she will try a write-in campaign. I hate these spoilers like Crist. Speaking of Crist chances are he might decide to declare he’ll caucus with the Dems in order to draw votes from Meek.


  48. Beeduwine
    48 | September 8, 2010 6:13 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    There’s only one king, baby.


  49. m
    49 | September 8, 2010 6:15 pm

    @ snork:

    This is me… laughing at him…

    :lol:

    :-O


  50. m
    50 | September 8, 2010 6:16 pm

    @ Beeduwine:

    Hank?


  51. NoThreat2U
    51 | September 8, 2010 6:17 pm

    @ Beeduwine:
    I really like the lyrics to that song. Feeling melancholy now *sigh*


  52. NoThreat2U
    52 | September 8, 2010 6:17 pm

    @ Beeduwine:
    Ahhhhhh Ahhhhh *tossing panties* ahhhhhh ahhhhh ahhhhhh

    lol


  53. snork
    53 | September 8, 2010 6:18 pm

    m wrote:

    @ snork:

    This is me… laughing at him…

    :-O

    This is me. Burning a koran. :roll:


  54. Beeduwine
    54 | September 8, 2010 6:19 pm

    @ m:

    ?


  55. Beeduwine
    55 | September 8, 2010 6:20 pm

    @ m:

    I’m slow. Just got it.


  56. m
    56 | September 8, 2010 6:20 pm

    @ Beeduwine:

    The one king.

    KING OF THE HILL!


  57. Beeduwine
    57 | September 8, 2010 6:21 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    That was strangely arousing.


  58. m
    58 | September 8, 2010 6:21 pm

    @ Beeduwine:

    Yeah it’s bad when the blonde has to ‘splain to ya.

    ~:D


  59. m
    59 | September 8, 2010 6:21 pm

    !

    *steps away slowly…….*


  60. m
    60 | September 8, 2010 6:21 pm

    *not before setting up the tripod…*


  61. 61 | September 8, 2010 6:26 pm

    m wrote:

    *not before setting up the tripod…*

    <—— covers eyes before peeking at m's new photo's….


  62. Beeduwine
    62 | September 8, 2010 6:26 pm

    If you’re in the mood for a good laff, check this out. If you’re impatient, skip to 4 min.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM5S2VyX_eA

    (sorry, don’t know how to embedd)


  63. huckfunn
    63 | September 8, 2010 6:26 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    Anyone wanna hear my new favorite song? Too bad lol

    Ever try any Nora Jones?


  64. m
    64 | September 8, 2010 6:27 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    sshh… we’re not supposed to be here!

    H is aroused and Nothreat is tossing panties!

    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .

    ………. and ACTION!


  65. Beeduwine
    65 | September 8, 2010 6:27 pm

    m wrote:

    @ Beeduwine:
    Yeah it’s bad when the blonde has to ‘splain to ya.
    ~:D

    Yeah, I’m not the sharpest midget in the bucket.


  66. huckfunn
    66 | September 8, 2010 6:27 pm

    @ Beeduwine:
    httpv:

    Just stick a v in right after the p


  67. m
    67 | September 8, 2010 6:27 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Oh I friggen LOVE Norah Jones!


  68. NoThreat2U
    68 | September 8, 2010 6:28 pm

    @ Beeduwine:
    ROFLMAO**************


  69. NoThreat2U
    69 | September 8, 2010 6:29 pm

    @ m:
    Isn’t her dad Ravi Shankar?


  70. 70 | September 8, 2010 6:29 pm

    m wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    sshh… we’re not supposed to be here!
    H is aroused and Nothreat is tossing panties!
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    ………. and ACTION!

    Oh wait, pause… let me adjust the light…. Ok…. ACTION…..


  71. Beeduwine
    71 | September 8, 2010 6:30 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    nice


  72. NoThreat2U
    72 | September 8, 2010 6:30 pm

    I like Norah’s husky voice.


  73. huckfunn
    73 | September 8, 2010 6:30 pm

    m wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Oh I friggen LOVE Norah Jones!

    Well then, let’s dance:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBKcKQHZXks


  74. huckfunn
    74 | September 8, 2010 6:31 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ m:
    Isn’t her dad Ravi Shankar?

    That’s right. And her Mom is…. Mrs. Jones.


  75. Beeduwine
    75 | September 8, 2010 6:32 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    like this?


  76. m
    76 | September 8, 2010 6:33 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    You didn’t call!

    /yes this one was mandatory at this point!


  77. Beeduwine
    77 | September 8, 2010 6:33 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Oh yeah! Thanks. I’m lacking internet tricks.


  78. huckfunn
    78 | September 8, 2010 6:34 pm

    Beeduwine wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    nice

    She went to school (didn’t graduate) at my ala mater, North Texas State University. Actually, it’s now “The University of North Texas” but they changed the name without my permission.


  79. NoThreat2U
    79 | September 8, 2010 6:36 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    Well obviously /


  80. NoThreat2U
    80 | September 8, 2010 6:37 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    Didn’t he sing that song…something about him and Mrs Jones? I believe they had thiiiiiing gooooinnggg onnnnnn………..


  81. m
    81 | September 8, 2010 6:37 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    That’s just wrong.


  82. Beeduwine
    82 | September 8, 2010 6:38 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Sometimes they do that. She’s one of those artists I really appreciate, but never get around to buying the album.

    For some reason, I have a hard time getting into anything recorded after 1995.


  83. m
    83 | September 8, 2010 6:38 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    How about Sharleen Spiteri(?)


  84. NoThreat2U
    84 | September 8, 2010 6:39 pm

    @ m:
    That was great!


  85. Beeduwine
    85 | September 8, 2010 6:40 pm

    @ m:

    That’s Texas!


  86. NoThreat2U
    86 | September 8, 2010 6:41 pm

    @ m:
    That has a 60s-70s flavor to it. I like it! More music I have to download.


  87. Beeduwine
    87 | September 8, 2010 6:41 pm

    @ m:

    Did she go solo?


  88. huckfunn
    88 | September 8, 2010 6:42 pm

    m wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    You didn’t call!

    /yes this one was mandatory at this point!

    That CD is one of my favorites. I really like Lone Star.


  89. Beeduwine
    89 | September 8, 2010 6:42 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    You’d love Texas’ “White On Blonde”.


  90. NoThreat2U
    90 | September 8, 2010 6:43 pm

    Adele

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVctaDmwhJQ


  91. m
    91 | September 8, 2010 6:44 pm

    We gotta get new talent… youse guys are too easily distracted.

    CUT!


  92. NoThreat2U
    92 | September 8, 2010 6:44 pm

    @ Beeduwine:
    Gonna go check them out on YouTube…….


  93. NoThreat2U
    93 | September 8, 2010 6:46 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:
    Shit!


  94. snowcrash
    94 | September 8, 2010 6:46 pm

    @ Beeduwine:
    Have the Charlatans on my ipod. “The only one I know” was one of my fav’s from a long time ago and still sounds good to me. I have none of the other artists. Early U2 was good, I had “Boy” on tape at one time.


  95. NoThreat2U
    95 | September 8, 2010 6:47 pm

    How the hell did we go from earthquakes to toonage?? lol I think we all have ADD. lol


  96. 96 | September 8, 2010 6:47 pm

    m wrote:

    We gotta get new talent… youse guys are too easily distracted.
    CUT!

    Yup, guess until then we just have to settle for possum and whom ever he drags in again…. :shock:


  97. huckfunn
    97 | September 8, 2010 6:47 pm

    m wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    That’s just wrong.

    I complained but to no avail.


  98. m
    98 | September 8, 2010 6:47 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    Oh that’s purty.


  99. NoThreat2U
    99 | September 8, 2010 6:50 pm

    @ m:
    Saw her on SNL one nite and about fell off the couch. She’s good!!! lol


  100. Beeduwine
    100 | September 8, 2010 6:50 pm

    m wrote:

    We gotta get new talent… youse guys are too easily distracted.
    CUT!

    Headmaster spoke! You’re right.

    So how about them damn dirty communist tranzi prog hippies, building shitty houses and causing all them earthquakes, eh?

    Better?


  101. 101 | September 8, 2010 6:50 pm

    The idiots are preparing to retaliate.

    “We know this is not just the decision of a church. It is the decision of the President and the entire United States,” a man named Abdul Shakoor, 18, told The Associated Press.

    “It is the duty of Muslims to react,” said Mohammad Mukhtar, a cleric and candidate for the Afghan parliament in the Sept. 18 election. “When their holy book Quran gets burned in public, then there is nothing left. If this happens, I think the first and most important reaction will be that wherever Americans are seen, they will be killed. No matter where they will be in the world they will be killed.”

    I’ve said all I’m going to on why I think this is a bad idea, it’s all moot anyway, he’s going to do it. Some of the reactions are going to be interesting and if it’s anything like the cartoon riots more Muslims will die as a result of this than any other group. I have some sympathy for law enforcement personnel that will have to deal with the rioters. Might as well grab the popcorn and watch the show. Kickoff is Saturday but the riots might not start till the next Friday’s sermons. The mobs usually have to get their marching orders from the Mullahs.


  102. m
    102 | September 8, 2010 6:51 pm

    @ Beeduwine:

    Yeah, uhm… I wasn’t on that topic either LOL!


  103. huckfunn
    103 | September 8, 2010 6:53 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    How the hell did we go from earthquakes to toonage?? lol I think we all have ADD. lol

    Same topic, different verse. Whole lotta shakin’ :grin:


  104. m
    104 | September 8, 2010 6:53 pm

    I gotta ‘splain again, Beeduwine?

    *throws hands up*

    ;-)

    (check about #60-64ish)


  105. Beeduwine
    105 | September 8, 2010 6:55 pm

    @ m:

    I fear my drunkeness was part of the derailing. It’s wearing off. Actually, building and city planning are things I know quite a lot about. I should be able to weigh in on topic, just too damn lazy at the moment.


  106. m
    106 | September 8, 2010 6:55 pm

    @ Rancher:

    Yeah and it’ll be like that crying pali lady with 483 cameras pointing at her — he’ll have the mfm audience ready to eat it up and play it over and over again while saying how bad it was to do it.


  107. m
    107 | September 8, 2010 6:56 pm

    @ Beeduwine:

    Hey, I’m hardly ever on topic. I’m really not one to lecture anyone on it. I was just trying to make a movie!


  108. Beeduwine
    108 | September 8, 2010 6:57 pm

    @ m:

    With me, ‘splainin will for the most part be a necessity. I’m sorry. I’m the one that laughs the awkward five minutes after everybody else.


  109. Beeduwine
    109 | September 8, 2010 6:59 pm

    @ m:

    Wanna see something cool?


  110. 110 | September 8, 2010 6:59 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    The idiots are preparing to retaliate.
    “We know this is not just the decision of a church. It is the decision of the President and the entire United States,” a man named Abdul Shakoor, 18, told The Associated Press.
    “It is the duty of Muslims to react,” said Mohammad Mukhtar, a cleric and candidate for the Afghan parliament in the Sept. 18 election. “When their holy book Quran gets burned in public, then there is nothing left. If this happens, I think the first and most important reaction will be that wherever Americans are seen, they will be killed. No matter where they will be in the world they will be killed.”
    I’ve said all I’m going to on why I think this is a bad idea, it’s all moot anyway, he’s going to do it. Some of the reactions are going to be interesting and if it’s anything like the cartoon riots more Muslims will die as a result of this than any other group. I have some sympathy for law enforcement personnel that will have to deal with the rioters. Might as well grab the popcorn and watch the show. Kickoff is Saturday but the riots might not start till the next Friday’s sermons. The mobs usually have to get their marching orders from the Mullahs.

    Wait till they riot, drop thermobaric bomb on their asses, problem solved.


  111. m
    111 | September 8, 2010 7:00 pm

    @ Beeduwine:

    Sure!


  112. Beeduwine
  113. NoThreat2U
    113 | September 8, 2010 7:04 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    You got a point there ;)


  114. m
    114 | September 8, 2010 7:04 pm

    @ Beeduwine:

    Damn at the detail.
    What the heck is that?


  115. Beeduwine
    115 | September 8, 2010 7:07 pm

    @ m:

    8 story elementary school with dancing facilities and a library.


  116. m
    116 | September 8, 2010 7:12 pm

    @ Beeduwine:

    Nice.


  117. snowcrash
    117 | September 8, 2010 7:17 pm

    @ Beeduwine:
    What was your contribution to the building? Do you know that BunkX, on the overnight, is an architect, I think. Heck, this is the internet, everyone drives Ferraris and is good looking.


  118. Beeduwine
    118 | September 8, 2010 7:22 pm

    @ snowcrash:

    It’s my building. Teamwork, of course, but still. Ain’t got no Ferrari though.

    BunkX is an architect?


  119. snowcrash
    119 | September 8, 2010 7:27 pm

    @ Beeduwine:
    I think BunkX is. The building is really beautiful.


  120. Beeduwine
    120 | September 8, 2010 7:35 pm

    @ snowcrash:

    Thank you!


  121. 121 | September 8, 2010 7:38 pm

    Actually, you know I take away from the comparison of Christchruch and Port au Prince… the rule of law. First, the are laws and buidling regulations in NZ and second, they are usually followed. Can’t say I have the same opinion of Haiti. Of course, I’ve never been to Haiti either. My time in New Zealand, however, left me with the conclusion that it was a modern, civilized country. In fact, it was incredibly like the USA. Only real differences are that they drive on the left, and generally don’t pronounce the letter R except in one small region.


  122. snowcrash
    122 | September 8, 2010 8:21 pm

    @ Kirly:
    Darn it! I missed you kirly. Hey stranger.


  123. 123 | September 8, 2010 9:03 pm

    @ Beeduwine:
    Gimme a holler sometime.


  124. 124 | September 8, 2010 10:03 pm

    snowcrash wrote:

    @ Kirly:
    Darn it! I missed you kirly. Hey stranger.

    sorry, that was a bit of a comment and run.


  125. 125 | September 8, 2010 10:19 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Beeduwine:
    The rule has been revised…only women can post here while drunk

    I’ll keep that in mind! :lol:
    Dunno if anybody can tell whether I’ve been drinking or not, considering that I don’t drink enough to get a hangover afterward.


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